'Cruel and vindictive' private school tax 'designed to divide': 'if it is not broken don't fix it'

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  • @lindemelhuish3206
    @lindemelhuish3206 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Politics of envy, as ever. Parents work hard to send children to private schools as well as paying tax towards the state sector. Not all schools have boarders & the % of overseas boarders varies tremendously. Many schools are small schools & do not have the income for adding 20% to the fees. It will also discriminate against those with special needs.

  • @richardc3194
    @richardc3194 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Will labour also put 20% VAT on useless university degrees, as this would be the same argument ?

    • @andymcdonald8922
      @andymcdonald8922 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The tories put a 9k per annum tax on that already

    • @andymcdonald8922
      @andymcdonald8922 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Charlie-o1r4p tories and lib dems raised them to 9k

    • @MinkieWinkle
      @MinkieWinkle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      andymcdonald8922
      No they did not, they CAPPED the fees.
      Since they were climbing uncontrollably, had they not stepped in, uni would cost double what it does now

  • @alastairharris1866
    @alastairharris1866 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    We have a long standing tradition that we don't tax education. So absolutely no, we should not be raising VAT on private school fees. And in any case Labour don't have a mandate for this policy. They have 35% share of the vote. Not 51%. About time we stopped this ridiculuous thing of allowing seats to dictate votes in the commons, rather than vote share at the election.

  • @russellwilliams1163
    @russellwilliams1163 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Labour just want to make sure that the working classes stay working class.

    • @paulsaintclair9761
      @paulsaintclair9761 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That has always been the plan in my opinion ?????

    • @robertadams1054
      @robertadams1054 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How many Labour MPs past or present little darlings go/gone to Private Schools. Bloody hypocrites.

    • @russellwilliams1163
      @russellwilliams1163 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertadams1054 Communists want to keep the working class uneducated so they can control them. Communist countries have always done that.

    • @yourstruly5706
      @yourstruly5706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, the richer people become, they become anti-government and anti-theft.

  • @davidsmith8728
    @davidsmith8728 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Labour do not like the private school system - unless it is for their own children. Then it is OK.

  • @basher5013
    @basher5013 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My granddaughter went to a public school, her parents give a lot up to afford a better education for her, no holidays, etc.

  • @tenniskinsella7768
    @tenniskinsella7768 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Levelling down
    That sums up labour

  • @brianpotter3870
    @brianpotter3870 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Labour Party - Levelling Down.

    • @YakovShani
      @YakovShani 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Commies on the prowl.

  • @PaulWrigh
    @PaulWrigh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Well labour needs as much of our money to enable to pay for children's breakfasts. As parents can't be bothered to feed their children

  • @Rosemary-iz5vc
    @Rosemary-iz5vc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Parents should provide their children with breakfast. I grew up in the 1950’s my parents were working class my father was a labourer and my mother a cleaner, my three siblings and I never went to school without breakfast.

  • @richardleach5514
    @richardleach5514 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Private schools aren't businesses. Current VAT rules dictate you don't charge VAT on educational services regardless of whether you are a business or a charity.

  • @DavidBrown-bs7gg
    @DavidBrown-bs7gg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Standard politics of envy by Labour

    • @cordoroy9515
      @cordoroy9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Most of Labour MPs are privately schooled. 😂😂

    • @scottwhat3362
      @scottwhat3362 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cordoroy9515 Self Awareness was never a progressives strong point.

    • @ianHolmes-up2oc
      @ianHolmes-up2oc หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it isn't who cares about private schools

  • @londonman8688
    @londonman8688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    VAT on education breaks ECHR law

  • @stuartfletcher9742
    @stuartfletcher9742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Labour encouraging Class Warfare. We had this in the 60s and 70s.

    • @paulmessenger9836
      @paulmessenger9836 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats what people say went they become jealous with hate

    • @MinkieWinkle
      @MinkieWinkle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      user-bf2gt2tf2x
      What is it the public are always moaning about, the money, finance etc basic day to day life things are not taught.
      Yet, when people do send their children to schools that DO teach those things. You lot then moan it's unfair.
      Here is a thought, stop trying to drag people down, and demand you get raised

  • @RumiWiseone
    @RumiWiseone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Bad idea ! It will also affect people in the lower income bracket who want to go to private schools!!
    Labour will fail !

    • @cordoroy9515
      @cordoroy9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This comment is 🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @RumiWiseone
      @RumiWiseone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cordoroy9515 ha hah

    • @andymcdonald8922
      @andymcdonald8922 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So people in the lowest bracket income are sending their kids to private school?
      This will affect absolutely no-one from that demographic

    • @krishnagondhea7428
      @krishnagondhea7428 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t think Starmer has been advised properly on this. He just wanted to get into power so adding VAT on the so called privileged was a way to get more votes.

    • @ianHolmes-up2oc
      @ianHolmes-up2oc หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rubbish if you are in the lower income bracket you do not send your kids to private school

  • @peterloup2302
    @peterloup2302 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ECHR states that EDUCATION should not be taxed, so why is Labour doing it and flouting international law. The Private/Public schools are obliged under the Rules of their Charitable status (therefore qualifying for tax relief) to offer assistance to State schools, in teaching and other school facilities - which they do in spades. Unfortunately Starmer and his female cohorts don't appreciate that it's actually working and helping to improve education standards of state pupils. Stop undermining one of the world's finest institutions. Just think, why do overseas pupils flock here for their education?

  • @footube3
    @footube3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    If Labour really cared about equality and good outcomes they'd close all the state schools, so that everyone could have a private school education.

    • @cordoroy9515
      @cordoroy9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Silliest comment of the week award @footube3

    • @RumiWiseone
      @RumiWiseone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@footube3 very good point 👉

    • @RumiWiseone
      @RumiWiseone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@footube3 very good point 👉

    • @footube3
      @footube3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cordoroy9515 , look into charter schools in the US, which are lower cost than state schools but yield much better results than state schools, and tell me that it's still a silly idea.

    • @cordoroy9515
      @cordoroy9515 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @footube3 Charter schools are in no way private school education. You suggested we close down state schools and replaced with private. This was a silly comment and it got the silly comment of the week award.

  • @FunctionalFoodie
    @FunctionalFoodie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Parents paying for private education have already paid into tne state system via their taxes - fund scholarships to increase social mobility and opportunity, don't create a bigger divide.

  • @moumouniadjana8152
    @moumouniadjana8152 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you ever wondered why Britain is in this economic mess, these sort of policies is a good example.
    I already pay taxes and the government is meant to provide FREE school from the proceeds of my tax. The government has failed in its duty and i opted for private education which further helped the government by reducing the burden on public schools.
    Why on earth will you further tax me for bailing you out? Education is the government responsibility.

    •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WHY DON'T YOU HAVE YOUR CHILD EDUCATED ABROAD? AND ENCOURAGE HIM/HER TO STAY PERMANENTLY ABROAD?

  • @marianlonge3060
    @marianlonge3060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He’s making sure disadvantaged kids never get a greater education

  • @jayaitch2194
    @jayaitch2194 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Many of them are able to send their children to the best state schools, some people don't have that option; my sons' went to a tiny independent school, I effectively paid to educate 4 children, my own 2 and the 2 spaces there would have been for my sons' in the local state school that they didn't take up. This policy stamps all over the efforts of some hard working parents who want to give their children more opportunities they had.

  • @davidbarrass5210
    @davidbarrass5210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Its a self defeating process. Pupils moving from private to state schools = less revenue collected + more expenditure to offset more state school requirements.

  • @FortunateSquash
    @FortunateSquash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The biggest lie of this policy is that private schools don’t pay VAT they do they pay vat on all their consumables, building work etc which they can not reclaim. - last year private schools paid £5.1 billion in VAT which isn’t able to be reclaimed. They also saved the state £4.4 billion in education places not taken up in state schools.
    Once they charge vat they can reclaim it which by most estimates will be £600million - £1 billion a year!!

    • @FortunateSquash
      @FortunateSquash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@johnkitching2248 the point is they currently can’t reclaim any vat expenses but once they charge it they will. So the treasury is currently +£5.1 billion (as anyone with a brain could figure out from my comment)
      Also in the first year they can reclaim any vat from building or maintenance works incurred from the last 10 years!
      Also once the start reclaiming vat the magical £1.6 billion Labour want to raise will quickly go down!!

  • @Sparkly14
    @Sparkly14 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What about the families who are in the forces, they often send their children to boarding school whilst serving abroad.

  • @alastairharris1866
    @alastairharris1866 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    it will raise nothing, and it will take away opportunity for all those children who are not at Eton or Repton, but whom do benefit from the specialist skills they need. It really is a shameful policy.

  • @sarahcrowther6267
    @sarahcrowther6267 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I went to a private school as did my sister....our parents worked 2 jobs each to pay for us and eventually sold 2 houses and bought 1......not just to pay fees, other reasons involved. I certainly came away a much better person than i wud have done if i was at state school. This comparison has become much more noticable in my later years.

    • @Ytremz
      @Ytremz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "I certainly came away a much better person than *i wud have* done if i was at state school."
      Should have gone to a grammar school by the looks of things.

    • @El.Cid17
      @El.Cid17 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I went to the local Comprehensive, and came away alright, and some in my year are millionaires.

    • @shelleyphilcox4743
      @shelleyphilcox4743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @sarahcrowther6267 My sons went to private school for a couple of years and then to a good state school. It certainly gave me some insight. I dont agree with the new VAT policy.
      However, I do assure you that your private education did not make you a 'better person's than those who attend state schools. Your experience seems to have made you arrogant and the curriculum seems to have missed teaching you grace and good manners.

    • @sarahcrowther6267
      @sarahcrowther6267 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@El.Cid17 so, wots ur point......they prob worked hard.

    • @sarahcrowther6267
      @sarahcrowther6267 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shelleyphilcox4743 errr no luv, it teaches a hell of a lot more but i wont waste my time on u.

  • @redwellieswellies3367
    @redwellieswellies3367 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One person speaking on gbn said its illegal to do this to private schools so use the legal system to fight it

  • @LindaFitzgerald-m3s
    @LindaFitzgerald-m3s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This lot just want to drag everyone in England downtown their level…. Levelling Down I think we could call it - what a shower

    • @midgemagoo
      @midgemagoo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They just want everybody to be as thick and stupid as members of the labour party.

  • @BV-co7hy
    @BV-co7hy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went to private school in the 1970’s early 80’s
    It was awful but hey I’m GenX and I learnt Very quickly how to survive.

  • @janpetersen7440
    @janpetersen7440 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The parents who can afford it send their child(ren) to private schools to learn what they don't learn in public schools.

  • @barbarahuff117
    @barbarahuff117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Touching in. Glad to see you

  • @justingraham1886
    @justingraham1886 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure why Academies aren't going to be in line for VAT as they are all private businesses! 🤔
    It's purely vindictive.

  • @colinwilson3750
    @colinwilson3750 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not sure you can compare spending in the 70's to today. Funding in the 70's bought a lot of slates and chalk, blackboards too but not so many laptops and interactive smartboards today

  • @michaelelliott556
    @michaelelliott556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More kids don't have internet than go to private schools

  • @boycemi
    @boycemi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know why the MSM has not picked up on this vat on education breaks ECHR LAW

  • @jamesgill6213
    @jamesgill6213 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    distracted by "businesses" ........its the parents (hard working and high taxed) who will be affected not the schools

  • @philiphayton8261
    @philiphayton8261 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And with the NHS Labour said they want the private sector to deliver shorter waiting list - crazy to burden the state with more kids.. plus the parents paid tax on their earnings so its a tax upon tax for teaching our kids

  • @mahuanhit
    @mahuanhit หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the government should encourage more private schools to further reduce the cost of state school. This parents have good income but kids stuck in state school can have access to private schools. State school then can provide better education to those poor background children. This should be the way forward! Starmer is evil!

  • @v4nno
    @v4nno 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How is generating a shed load of money going to produce more teachers? Speaking to friends in the profession, it’s not the money that’s the problem it’s working conditions and OFSTED that’s driving teachers away.

  • @carly_w3867
    @carly_w3867 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Aaron you DO NOT have a clue on how big this picture actually is!!
    What about independent schools for children with special educational needs who couldn’t get an Educational Health and Care Plan, hence their parents have crippled themselves financially to simply be able to have their child in a school that can meet their needs instead of letting them rot in a mainstream school that dosent understand them! Let’s also remember they’ve had to do this because the state can’t provide it and so they have taken matters into their own hands because they love their kids!! Yes - some private families can afford the 20%, but what about those who are already at breaking point paying for fees because they had no choice but to send their kids privately because the state turned their back and the alternative of leaving them in the wrong school was unimaginable and they weren’t willing to do it! Yet again the middle men are punished by the lefty Labour Party 🤢

  • @biggobmalc8118
    @biggobmalc8118 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you pay to privately educate your kids in the future, under a labour government if they get their way, you will have to pay VAT on School fees. So, what's the difference if you pay a university to obtain a degree you should be subject to VAT on the University fee’s.
    OK because some people will fall into the salary bracket whereby, they have to start paying university fees back in which case at that stage they could be reimbursed any VAT that was levied on the fee’s.

  • @sjim8384
    @sjim8384 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am sure I heard that Captain Flip -Flop wouldn't be able to do this because of something to do with the wonderful ECHR.

  • @Michelle_Kemp
    @Michelle_Kemp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stop calling them businesses, they are not! My daughters school does so much for the local community, fund raising and allowing state school students access to the school facilities

    • @Asilis23
      @Asilis23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if he has kids

  • @londonman8688
    @londonman8688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what about all the kids that got moved to private schools because they could not cope in state comps and they might have special needs

  • @stuartsutherland7664
    @stuartsutherland7664 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's not cruel and vindictive! These schools are businesses and should pay VAT like other businesses.

  • @davidhowells-rl9li
    @davidhowells-rl9li 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can anyone in the whole if the UK ! State that we are all the same !when their is a definite defining line in human nature? Everyone talks about a level playing field? When their is definitely a rift or gap between the population? Yes if they want to send their children to private boarding schools ? Fair enough, but tax them? Then if their is any surplus wealth create a sponsorship for less wealthy children! Such as military children who are posted out of the country? Or academically brighter children who are working class and can't afford better education ? .

  • @londonman8688
    @londonman8688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    VAT on private healthcare next

  • @londonman8688
    @londonman8688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why is VAT not on private nurseries ?

  • @ronselby8535
    @ronselby8535 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do universities pay vat?

  • @johnhalton2237
    @johnhalton2237 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imho I don’t think the figures quoted by both guests are not realistic
    1. A large number of private schools will close and students will go into the state education system
    So no extra cash (vat) and extra places to provide and probably more buildings etc
    2. The state system is far less efficient so will cost proportionally more to provide a worse education .
    Money would be better spent to provide more schools in deprived areas which are properly funded and thank the private schools for the money it saves them.

  • @kaedesnex
    @kaedesnex 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please get more informed guests. "...when you go out you can get bread, eggs and milk, that's really socially useful. If we didn't have that network of logistics and food distribution, we would be in trouble pretty quick. But we pay VAT on it...."
    We do not pay VAT on those food items. This guy is an barely a midwit, your other guest at least calls him out on the floors with VAT with respect to low income households. 👍

  • @ICanSeeClearlyNow
    @ICanSeeClearlyNow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The lefty argument should also apply to Universities based on the private business argument.

  • @martynwright2519
    @martynwright2519 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Politics of envy

  • @mohammedakram188
    @mohammedakram188 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is broke

  • @4tr3x92
    @4tr3x92 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    £1,300,000,000 (£1.3 billion) / 6500 = £200,000.
    I want to be one of these new 6500 teachers that are going to get £200,000 a year...
    Surely the point of this plan is to pay for more teachers.
    How about, if you are obsessed with doing it, put a lower rate of tax on to pay for what you need, not to pay for that and your other loony ideas.
    I for one don't believe it should be done (my kids are in state school and so was I). The people are already paying tax and then paying private. The only people who will be affected are those trying to give their kids a better life.

  • @claudiojunior9618
    @claudiojunior9618 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Neil Oliver show without Neil.

  • @londonman8688
    @londonman8688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    food doesnt get VAT ???

  • @Coopz1969
    @Coopz1969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    will the money raised cover the rise in costs its going to cost for the kids that leave private schools and go to state schools 🤔

  • @lindawilson2582
    @lindawilson2582 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this the Aaron Bastini show or the Neil Oliver show. Aaron just doing all the talking.

  • @gosskamperis2016
    @gosskamperis2016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    WHY is it WRONG to strive to give ones children the best advantage in life?

    • @gosskamperis2016
      @gosskamperis2016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@johnkitching2248
      Not at all.
      I am able to teach my children the basics of my profession. That doesn't stop you from doing likewise for your children. I can choose to abstain from bottle of wine with my dinner or some beers with my friends and spend that money on extra tuition for my kids, that doesn't stop you from doing likewise. I'm not putting anybody at a disadvantage. If you choose to disadvantage your children, that's YOUR choice. BTW, the biggest gifts you can give your children are your time. your love and a sense of pride in whatever they do. That's all I got because that's all my parents had available.

    • @gosskamperis2016
      @gosskamperis2016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnkitching2248
      So you're advocating a race to the bottom?

    • @gosskamperis2016
      @gosskamperis2016 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnkitching2248
      Not at all a deflection.
      If we don't (and I stress WE; you, me, everybody) don't help our children grow; if we don't teach them and support them to the best of our abilities, there's only one way and that's down. (That's my understanding of the cliché "race to the bottom".)

    • @tenniskinsella7768
      @tenniskinsella7768 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing

  • @paulsaintclair9761
    @paulsaintclair9761 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Taxing white privilege ..... only hurts virtual signallers, in my opinion ???????
    Is this really bad ???????

    • @bobsocks7575
      @bobsocks7575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @noelward8047
    @noelward8047 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    V.A.T. Value Added Tax. I wonder who came up with that idea !?!

    • @georgerj2419
      @georgerj2419 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is EU related. It was introduced to support the EU. The socialist Tory and labour regimes use this to finance their Marxist policies.

  • @songscoops4205
    @songscoops4205 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reduced hours for some employees

  • @JulieMalone-oy1ll
    @JulieMalone-oy1ll 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The labs are cold fish anyway

  • @EveLovesChristJesus
    @EveLovesChristJesus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Private schools are a business! Tax them!

    • @krishnagondhea7428
      @krishnagondhea7428 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah and then have 25% going to the state sector and overburden it. And the state sector will never attract more teachers because people don’t want to go into as they are not paid enough. So it’s a non workable idea.

  • @LindaFitzgerald-m3s
    @LindaFitzgerald-m3s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Starmer 😢