We know that Paimon has so many children, sons in particular, that he couldn't even remember Stolas' name. It's entirely possible that Vassago could be one of Stolas' brothers.
I've argued previously that Stolas likely has a LOT of siblings of a similar age (that Paimon lost track of), after needing to re-incarnate the positions of demon lords lost in some great battle against the Angels. The first Extermination, perhaps?
That's my head canon for now. Would also explain why Stolas doesn't count him as his first "friend". As a brother, they may get along, but they're in a different class than friends
@@rakaydosdraj8405 i dont think any demon royaltie would have been harmed in the first extermination, maily due to it breaking the balance between heaven and hell royals, im pretty sure the first, and the rest of exterminations are soly focused on sinners
@@r8j846 I'm imagining a situation like the (noncanon) Paranoid DJ song, "Change the Order", where demon royalty marshal their legions and fight those who are invading hell- but unlike that song, there's no angelic casualties. Several Goetia would die because they were fighting angels and lost, not because the angels were after them specifically.
Vasago is bassed on a Red Macaw, this parrots live in the Amazon and a lot of the countries next to the rainforest speak spanish. I think its just a nod to the kind of bird he is.
That was my thought too. Of course he may just LIKE the language and/or feels it fits his Vibe since it makes him stand out from the rest who so far have leaned hard into "Snooty English"
Except South American natives speak there own aboriginal languages so that doesn’t make since below surface level. Let’s be honest here Viv is just really into Hispanic stuff it’s all over both shows.
@@shangothunder1055 Wow a hispanic thats into hispanic stuff. Shocking. Of course the living native tribes speak their own language but the majority of Latin America speaks spanish and portugues and have done so for centuries now, it's not superficial to think a character linked to those cultures would do the same.
My theory on Vassago speaking Spanish is that his design is based on the Macaw parrot. They’re from South America so Viv decided he could speak Spanish.
Most of the 7 Deadly Sins have prominent roles in a Circus. Lucifer is the Ringmaster, Satan the Strongman, Asmodeus a Magician, Mammon is the jester, Beezlebub is the animal Tamer, Leviathan is the 2 Headed freak show & Belphegor is the overworked, exhausted & underpaid employee.
@@gabrielbastos18I think Vivzie already confirmed that Bee is the beast tamer, That's why in her Cotton Candy number she goes through hoops and does acrobatics, because she in herself is, well, a beast.
@@gabrielbastos18 I've seen theories suggest Bel could've represented the Bearded Lady, given her apparent goat-theming. But looking back at the many eyes in her canon design, yeah, she very likely could be a fortune teller.
honestly vasago's introduction works in my opinion. he's lived here for a while, most of the people here likely already know him, he doesn't really need a big introduction when the fact he's introduced pointing out andrealphus' nonsense gives us plenty to extrapolate from
Yep. I've also seen a picture of Vassago with a treasure map behind him, which could indicate how vassago might be a steeping stone for Stolitz. We can already assume Vassago and Stolas are both friends, let alone relative, to where they at least can take to each other freely and without judgement. I like Vassago either way. He seems like a great positive for someone to have.
ehh, kinda disagree. as someone whose only experience with vivzie's work is helluva, i definitely thought he was an already established character, maybe a cameo from hazbin. it did leave me somewhat confused, but i enjoyed his character enough.
I'm calling it right now, Blitz will redeem himself to Stolas by helping him get his daughter back, and Vassago will play a huge part in it. The key to the situation: exposing Stella and her hitman with evidence… somehow.
It's stated and shown multiple times that Stella is quite stupid (she talks on the phone with Striker right next to Stolas, for example), so I imagine there's probably evidence all over the place
Andrealphus seemed pretty upset that Stolas's banishment would only be temporary. And I imagine he'll be even more upset when he finds out that Octavia is almost old enough to inherit all the titles he is only holding temporarily. My theory for a while had been that Blitzo and Stolas would eventually come back together after bonding over their shared desire to be better fathers to their daughters than their own fathers were to themselves, which would happen after Blitzo realized Octavia's life was also in danger and he came charging back in to save them both. I still think that could happen. Andrealphus may have already decided that Stella is a liability -- too dumb and short-tempered to let live, and that he can make his promotion to Prince status permanent by setting up a narrative that Stolas hired an assassin to murder Stella and that Octavia was also tragically killed in the process. Which, I predict, will fall apart when Blitzo shows up and has one last fight to the death with Striker, after which Andrealphus will try to deal with Blitzo himself as seen in the teasers.
If Vassago can see in the past and future (correct me if I'm wrong), then I hope he can at least see that it was Stiker that was hired by Stella who was trying to kill Stolas
Past and future of the stars. Yeah, star could hold those kind of knowledge, just it's more of like pathways, the lifespan, and what they did or are going to do to my understanding. If I remember correctly there's some princes that have the general field, but do different parts in those areas. Like Stolas is in charge of the stars is supposed to oversee/overlook them. Vassago would be there to understand those stars. That's just my thinking though.
Since vassago's merch is based on treasure maps and x marks the spot, i think he will be the one to find stella and andrealphus's true evil intentions.
Technically you didn't fall. You need to be thrown through a portal into Hell with authority of a Shem HaMephorash or above to be considered fallen. Besides, you might see your parents in the future.
My theory for why Paimon wasn't at the trail, Andrealphus purposely pulled strings make sure that Paimon's summons to court was lost in the mail/post, because he would have more than likely act as a block to Andrealphus gaining Stolases powers and legions.
As someone who's never even heard of this demonology book, I've always wondered what these high- ranking bird demons were about. It seems Viv really did some research with various demon lore from many sources throughout history, and made them work with a modern web- series, which is awesome!
Something interesting I’ve seen someone propose is that Vassago’s merch shows pirate/treasure map motifs in it, so it means that him and Blitz will likely get along as well as help Stolas with finding something important.🤔
The "Big bird" at 10:42 actually reminds me of Zillion from Zoophobia. I guessed it was just a small Vivzie nod and not an actual Goetia. I'm probably wrong, but it'd be funny.
Vassago is the Oberyn of Helluva Boss. Shows up in one episode, is a minor character, but immediately won literally everyone's hearts. Oh and they both have Spanish influence too!
You missed a couple goetic demons in the background, but they were pretty hard to see so I don't blame you. I only saw them as I was editing my own video on the goetic demons haha. We got similar answers in our videos, but this is what I got for the different ones: The guy with the golden arm: Berith because he can turn anything into gold, but I think I like your answer better. The purple flame: Aim. I think his two other heads are on his shoulders. The "penguin": He's not a penguin, but Camio a black thrush who lights on fire when he gives advice. I was stumped on the pigeon and the yellow bird too. I think they were other goetic demons that got bird-ified. The lava-spitting bird is definitely Aamon. The bird with three candles: Naberius. I think the three candles represent his three heads in his alternate form. Horse: I think it's Orobas, but I like your take on this one. The winged horse/donkey in sweatpants: I thought about Glasya Labolas too, but if there was a dog demon, I think Vivzie would have given them a more zoophobia-esque design. I think I settled on Gamigin because this one looks more like a donkey than a horse. I will accept your Saleos theory because I have no idea what that demon is supposed to be. Black bird with the crown: I think I settled on Andras because he looks less like a crow and more like a raven imo. Red-faced bird with the hat: I thought it was Shax when I first saw the trailer, and then I saw the pink and blue bird, so now I think it's Malthus, another stork demon. I go into more depth in my video, but just wanted to give you my input.
awesome I'll probably be cross referencing yours as well next time we go into any of these. I really want to make a chart like I did for the 7 sins but we don't really know where to place them haha
Well, from what I've read about Saleos, he's usually depicted as a man with a crown riding a crocodile. It could explain his crown, but they look more like antlers that fused to me. Maybe the crocodile like face?? He's a Duke in the ars goetia, and one of the more benevolent ones. With high loyalty to Lucifer, wanting to make the world a better place for all.
Let me know if you need any help. Could definitely use another pair of eyes on some of these. I tried looking at the crowns or headwear and placements, but they are all very inconsistent.
i thought the black bird with the crown might be Halphas/malphas (wasn't sure on whcih is the correct spelling) o3o then again that redbird with the big hat with a red feather in it might be him, because he is often drawn wearing a similar hat
Paimon likely didn't attend as he probably didn't even know it was happening, they didn't even invite Stolas and he only found out by flicking through TV channels
Vasago is also a Macaw from south america! It is likely that's why he leans more spanish, which I appreciate. It really makes you realize that the writers and character designers care about not just how each character looks but how they sound too!
5:25 well google “ara” parrot and where it comes from, i dont know if its the reason but it would fit perfectly and also man that spanish fits him so well as character, that attitude of his 💅✨
I would love to get to know more about Vassago and the Ars Goetia we see in Mastermind! Even though we know that Vassago supports Stolas and he hates Andrealphus for his obnoxious behavior. I have a feeling Vassago will help Stolas out even though he lost everything. Also seeing Vassago speak Spanish especially when he's angry is hilarious.😮😊😂🦜
Why does "falling" refer to both a moral failing, and the physical disability of losing their wings? I can understand the moral causing the physical, but it's always implied that the physical causes the moral, as well.
It was my pleasure helping out with the identification. Although I believed the horse demon to be Gamigin instead of Eligos. But at the end of the day, these are all guesswork.
Wasn't Paimon the one who "bought" Stolas the imp in the first place? It could very well of hurt him as well as stolas if it got out that's perhaps why he didn't attend.
I believe that the crow beside Vassago is the demon Raum, also set to take the form of a crow, however "his office is steal treasures out of kings houses and to carry it whither he is commanded" that's why he is wearing so much jewellery
While the Ars Goetia appear to always assemble in Hell's council to examine specific circumstances alongside their master Lucifer, they can have their quarters within Hell, which range from castles, underground defenses, or even a separate dimension that is tethered to Hell. These palaces are modified to suit the precise Goetic demon's position. The Goetia are separated into an aristocratic hierarchy, with successive classes: Kings of Hell Dukes of Hell Princes of Hell Marquises of Hell Counts of Hell Knights of Hell Presidents of Hell.
It seems you might’ve missed one Goetia. During the start of Stolas’ part of the Mastermind number, when he’s playfully sneaking around the pew boxes, one of the Goetia from below(?) turns to look back at him. He resembles a black maned lion from what I can tell.
Someone mentioned this but I was gonna say it anyway but Vassago speaking Spanish is because his designed to be a Scarlet Macaw which are South American birds but him being part of music industry wouldn’t surprise me since parrots in media are always depicted to being the musical type, we see this in the movie Rio and the Rito bard Kass from the Zelda series is designed after the blue and yellow macaw
So far we 28 out of 72 if you count the large bird and the two whose names were repeated two times. Which means there are a total of 44 left to be revealed for seasons 3 and 4.
I love Vassago and how they got right to him wanting to summon Stolas like he was old friends and having him supported his song showed their bond and I hope we see more of him. I think he will visit Stolas to bring some stuff from his hone he swiped and comfort him by saying he keep trying to get in touch with his daughter
I was rewatching the hh pilot and only just noticed his appearance there! Nice that viv snuck in that joint character between the series, even though we only briefly saw him in huh.
Seeing Vassago in this episode made me happy. I hope that in future seasons, we will get see how Vassago and Stolas's relationship came to be. I know Stolas watches a lot of Spanish sopera, and with Vassago having a star theme, he could be in the Telenovela business rather than normal soperas. Plus, Vassago's love of music through Stolas's singing could that he is in the music business, but hopefully, we get to see it.
I can’t wait to see where they take Octavia specifically, wether they make her see Stolas alive with Blitzø and resenting him since she thinks he’s dead or Stolas goes to her and makes sure she safe and all. The fact he wasn’t immediately worried about his daughter when he lost his powers makes me scared that she is going to resent him.
Im really exited for Vassago I really liked him a lot and hope he’ll be in the show more I think he and Oktavia would be pretty ok together the goetia family is super interesting and I hope we’ll dive in more.
I like the idea of Beelz being a goetia simply by the fact that out of all the Sins, only the 2 with links to the Goetia family hook up with lesser demons.
No. Beelzebub here is clearly not Baal and a member of the Goetia. If Vivienne makes each devil's name a separate character (Lucifer, Satan, Leviathan, Beelzebub, Azazel), then it makes sense for Baal to be a separate character. Moreover, they are almost not related to each other, except for the name. Even their sigils are still different, although slightly similar. The Hazbin pilot was clearly not Stolas. The Boss pilot was made around the same time. And that owl has ears. So it's just a coincidence. That red parrot is definitely Vassago. Nowhere was it said that Lucifer is the only fallen angel (until Vaggie). Sins and someone from Goetia can also be fallen angels. And the latter created wives for themselves, with whom they bore darling children. Only kings of Goetia can be made angels. Based on the descriptions in the Lesser Key of Solomon, one can try to guess all of these demons. 1) On the balcony with Andrealphus. The skeleton of a vulture with a candle on its head is the Count and Duke Murmur (he summoned the souls of the dead and was occasionally depicted as a vulture), the Pegasus girl is Princess Orobas or Marquise Samigina, the horse is Orobas or Duke Amdusias (because of the crown in the form of a horn, and this demon was depicted as a unicorn). It is unclear who the yellow bird and the terrible deer in a uniform are, because there are no demons with such an appearance in the Lesser Key. 2) On the balcony with Vassago. The vulture with a cane is Prince and Count Ipos (he was also occasionally presented as a vulture), the raven with gold jewelry is Count Raum (because he likes to steal treasures and jewelry), the winged leopard is Prince Sitri, the snake is Count and Governor Botis. Later, during Satan's song, a girl (Duchess Gremory) appears here. It is unclear what the name of the goat and the bird in the hat is. 3) The balcony shown during Stolas' song. The demon with a mechanical arm and a head in the form of a rat's skull (and a foul gas around it) is Count Bifrons (he was depicted with a head of a rat's skull and was responsible for necromancy), the fire-headed demon is Governor Ami (he was depicted as fire), the deer with a fiery tail is Count Furfur, the fire bird is Marquis Phenex (he was depicted as a phoenix), the raven with a bottle of beetlejuice is Marquis Aamon (who was in Charlie's phone contacts) or Governor Malphas. There is also a lion flashing here - this is Governor Marbas, King Purson, Ipos, Marquis Sabnock, King and Count Vine, Marquis Oriax or Duke Vapula. There is also a hummingbird in a fur coat and a white bird with a large crest. Perhaps these are demons, whose design Vivienne rethought, as with Vassago the parrot (who in the religion was an old man riding a crocodile). Vivienne promised that season 3 will be dedicated to Goetia, we will see the brothers/sisters and Stolas' mother. Hopefully, we will learn all the intricacies of this class of demons and we will see the other 46 demons of Goetia and the names of those present in the court will be revealed to us.
I can see two character reasons that Paimon wasn't at the court ruling: 1. Is in universe: that's he has gotten so little connection to Stolas that he has forgotten he's his son and simply deemed it unimportant to show up. - An extension to this is that he hasn't been informed by Andrealphus about the case specifically out of fear of the outcome, since he might've been given control of Stolas' legions instead of Andrealphus. Given the emphasis that Andrealphus puts on the Legions that Stolas has they translate to power and influence, and in the Ars Goetia Paimon is stated to control 200 legions (more so than any other Goetia, including Asmodeus with a mere 72), compared to Andrealphus' 30+ legions, Paimon is an absolute powerhouse militarily (and thus politically) and could easily tip the scales in whatever way he wanted, which as far as Andrealphus would be concerned, would be towards Paimon's own family, estranged or not. 2. Is more about his character in the Ars Goetia which we haven't seen in the series, that he's the most loyal to Lucifer. Given Satan's liberal take on hells' history, Paimon might've spoken out against him and made the trial draw out, or, called into question the legality of it all since Lucifer isn't present for the ruling of a powerful royal. Paimon's loyalties to the actual ruler in hell over the one judging would cause other high ranking demons to exclude him to avoid trouble, and to ensure they're not late for lunch. Hopefully Paimon is still kicking and will make his views on the events known in the future. Whichever side he'll take is up in the air though, Stolas is his estranged son and he might have some lingering familial loyalties, but Stolas has still broken hell's laws.
I love that Verssago is speaking spanish. This is the second time we've heard spanish on the show (first being in the goat mission) and it always makes me so happy as a spanish speaker. The language also does lend itself for berating idiots
I'm a fan of the Ars Goetia myself and while we can only guess who the Goetias are from the recent episode, most named seem to be spot on for who they may be. I myself favor Andras the most out of all 72, and I'm not sure the one at 8:20 is him. Andras is an owl or raven, and that one there looks more like a quail or something. I've even seen a video where one said the crow at 12:02 is Andras, but I agree it most likely Malphas. Plus, if that is Andras and his design was changed, what did he look like before and in what episode? I'm confused myself, but I guess we shall see if that is Andras or not. For now, we can only speculate the Goetia identities, and maybe they will be officially confirmed someday, but its nice we got to see most of them in Mastermind.
Vassago feels familiar because he was in the hasbin hotel pilot, Where he was shown to be one of the overlords when Vaggie was talking about how powerful Alastor is
I remember an interview this year where ViviziePop talked about Stella backstory being explored in Season 3, also mentioning the kings of the Ars Goetia (which makes me wonder if Stella and Andrealphus are children of one of the Kings) . Maybe Bael is going to be revealed to have some correlation with Beelzebub, or officialy conflueted with one another for semplicity.
The demon with the fiery head and stars on their horns is definitely Aym/Haborym. They have stars on their forehead, their power is fire-based, and the faces on the shoulders are their other heads
Someone made a video pointing out all the Ars goetia names and titles from the ones we could see. But noticeably, not a single Ars Goetia king was present during the trial of stolas
It was somhou clear that Vassago would not be an opponent. If Viz sticks a little to the demon princes and their descriptions, it becomes clear that Vassago is described as a fairly good spirit among the demon princes, who tries not only to do evil. So. Following this, he tries to confront the accuser in the episode for a more fair trial. Viz staged this very well because the viewer immediately notices in the short screen time that the Goita comes across as quite likeable.
And if she wants to stick with Princes, she could bring in Seere, who is also considered to be good natured. Two princes helping Stolas is better than one!
I think it's possible Stolas and Vassago are brothers. Paimon did confirm that he has more than one son when he struggles to remember Stolas' name because 'There are so fucking many'. But we have yet to be absolutely introduced to a canon brother of Stolas. On top of that, Stolas and Vassago do look near identical other than the number of eyes each bird has
I feel like there doesn’t really have to be a reason for Vassago to speak Spanish other than it’s a character choice. It gives some variety to the characters and makes them feel more unique to each other. I think some people want to have some big important reason for every choice made in the show when sometimes it’s not that deep, it’s just “Macaw from South America, he speak Spanish.”
11:08 And hello again DeepCut! A pleasure to be watching the theories and content of you and your crew!
We know that Paimon has so many children, sons in particular, that he couldn't even remember Stolas' name. It's entirely possible that Vassago could be one of Stolas' brothers.
I've argued previously that Stolas likely has a LOT of siblings of a similar age (that Paimon lost track of), after needing to re-incarnate the positions of demon lords lost in some great battle against the Angels. The first Extermination, perhaps?
That's my head canon for now. Would also explain why Stolas doesn't count him as his first "friend". As a brother, they may get along, but they're in a different class than friends
He is!
@@rakaydosdraj8405 i dont think any demon royaltie would have been harmed in the first extermination, maily due to it breaking the balance between heaven and hell royals, im pretty sure the first, and the rest of exterminations are soly focused on sinners
@@r8j846 I'm imagining a situation like the (noncanon) Paranoid DJ song, "Change the Order", where demon royalty marshal their legions and fight those who are invading hell- but unlike that song, there's no angelic casualties. Several Goetia would die because they were fighting angels and lost, not because the angels were after them specifically.
Vasago is bassed on a Red Macaw, this parrots live in the Amazon and a lot of the countries next to the rainforest speak spanish. I think its just a nod to the kind of bird he is.
That was my thought too. Of course he may just LIKE the language and/or feels it fits his Vibe since it makes him stand out from the rest who so far have leaned hard into "Snooty English"
It also could be a nod to José Carioca. Who also is a cartoon macaw with a flamboyant personality and Latin American accent & bilingual speech.
Except South American natives speak there own aboriginal languages so that doesn’t make since below surface level. Let’s be honest here Viv is just really into Hispanic stuff it’s all over both shows.
The show doesn't have any other languages that English(American, British, Southern or Aussie accent) and Spanish
@@shangothunder1055 Wow a hispanic thats into hispanic stuff. Shocking.
Of course the living native tribes speak their own language but the majority of Latin America speaks spanish and portugues and have done so for centuries now, it's not superficial to think a character linked to those cultures would do the same.
My theory on Vassago speaking Spanish is that his design is based on the Macaw parrot. They’re from South America so Viv decided he could speak Spanish.
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"Assdrealphus". Perfect. I nailed it
He speaks Spanish because Harvey Guillen's only gimic as an actor is that he's Spanish
it could really be any silly reason too, like "oh I thought we needed more languages in hell and vasago sounded latin enough"
It was just great to see a Goetia that is supportive of Stolas besides just his daughter
Octavia has her doubts about her old man, but her heart’s in the right place
@@BenHopkins1000 In her defense, a lot of her doubts might have been fueled by her mother's influence
Most of the 7 Deadly Sins have prominent roles in a Circus.
Lucifer is the Ringmaster, Satan the Strongman, Asmodeus a Magician, Mammon is the jester,
Beezlebub is the animal Tamer, Leviathan is the 2 Headed freak show & Belphegor is the overworked, exhausted & underpaid employee.
I feel that Bee might be an acrobat and Bel is a fortune teller
@@gabrielbastos18I think Vivzie already confirmed that Bee is the beast tamer, That's why in her Cotton Candy number she goes through hoops and does acrobatics, because she in herself is, well, a beast.
@@gabrielbastos18 I've seen theories suggest Bel could've represented the Bearded Lady, given her apparent goat-theming. But looking back at the many eyes in her canon design, yeah, she very likely could be a fortune teller.
@@gabrielbastos18i feel it makes sense since her performance of going through hoops in the “cotton candy” song in s1, ep8
honestly vasago's introduction works in my opinion. he's lived here for a while, most of the people here likely already know him, he doesn't really need a big introduction when the fact he's introduced pointing out andrealphus' nonsense gives us plenty to extrapolate from
Yep. I've also seen a picture of Vassago with a treasure map behind him, which could indicate how vassago might be a steeping stone for Stolitz. We can already assume Vassago and Stolas are both friends, let alone relative, to where they at least can take to each other freely and without judgement. I like Vassago either way. He seems like a great positive for someone to have.
ehh, kinda disagree. as someone whose only experience with vivzie's work is helluva, i definitely thought he was an already established character, maybe a cameo from hazbin. it did leave me somewhat confused, but i enjoyed his character enough.
I'm sorry but
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Honestly glad that not all the Goetia are bird themed demons, cuz it would really limit unique designs.
I agree, which is why its best to stick to the accurate lore rather than change it entirely.
I think it could've worked anyway since birds come in all sorts of forms
Makes sense since paimon and Ozzie have other animals apart of their designs
@@Honeybunny_bun what they mean is it would be hard for the average viewer to be able to tell the differences from bird to bird.
I'm calling it right now, Blitz will redeem himself to Stolas by helping him get his daughter back, and Vassago will play a huge part in it. The key to the situation: exposing Stella and her hitman with evidence… somehow.
She and Striker are both puppets. Her brother seems to be pulling all the strings
It's stated and shown multiple times that Stella is quite stupid (she talks on the phone with Striker right next to Stolas, for example), so I imagine there's probably evidence all over the place
Stella wouldn’t be too hard to prove malice but Andrealphus actually covers things up so he and Striker would be harder to prove
Andrealphus seemed pretty upset that Stolas's banishment would only be temporary. And I imagine he'll be even more upset when he finds out that Octavia is almost old enough to inherit all the titles he is only holding temporarily.
My theory for a while had been that Blitzo and Stolas would eventually come back together after bonding over their shared desire to be better fathers to their daughters than their own fathers were to themselves, which would happen after Blitzo realized Octavia's life was also in danger and he came charging back in to save them both.
I still think that could happen. Andrealphus may have already decided that Stella is a liability -- too dumb and short-tempered to let live, and that he can make his promotion to Prince status permanent by setting up a narrative that Stolas hired an assassin to murder Stella and that Octavia was also tragically killed in the process.
Which, I predict, will fall apart when Blitzo shows up and has one last fight to the death with Striker, after which Andrealphus will try to deal with Blitzo himself as seen in the teasers.
If Vassago can see in the past and future (correct me if I'm wrong), then I hope he can at least see that it was Stiker that was hired by Stella who was trying to kill Stolas
Past and future of the stars. Yeah, star could hold those kind of knowledge, just it's more of like pathways, the lifespan, and what they did or are going to do to my understanding. If I remember correctly there's some princes that have the general field, but do different parts in those areas. Like Stolas is in charge of the stars is supposed to oversee/overlook them. Vassago would be there to understand those stars. That's just my thinking though.
@joallanobrien374 Ok, so yeah, Vassago is definitely gonna come in handy!
Since vassago's merch is based on treasure maps and x marks the spot, i think he will be the one to find stella and andrealphus's true evil intentions.
“Lucifer is the only fallen Angel we know of”
Vaggie: WHAT AM I, CHOPPED LIVER ?!
😂😂😂😂😂
Technically you didn't fall. You need to be thrown through a portal into Hell with authority of a Shem HaMephorash or above to be considered fallen. Besides, you might see your parents in the future.
Vaggie isn't a fallen angel she's just an angel that got left in hell
@voxkisser Exactly
I already love everything about vassago. The crow headed demon could also possibly be a goêtia nsmed "raum" who is also depicted having a crow's head
That was my guess.
My theory for why Paimon wasn't at the trail, Andrealphus purposely pulled strings make sure that Paimon's summons to court was lost in the mail/post, because he would have more than likely act as a block to Andrealphus gaining Stolases powers and legions.
The man also seen don't like physical appearances in crowds hence he been seen in a magic mirror.
As someone who's never even heard of this demonology book, I've always wondered what these high- ranking bird demons were about. It seems Viv really did some research with various demon lore from many sources throughout history, and made them work with a modern web- series, which is awesome!
Something interesting I’ve seen someone propose is that Vassago’s merch shows pirate/treasure map motifs in it, so it means that him and Blitz will likely get along as well as help Stolas with finding something important.🤔
The "Big bird" at 10:42 actually reminds me of Zillion from Zoophobia. I guessed it was just a small Vivzie nod and not an actual Goetia. I'm probably wrong, but it'd be funny.
I was thinking more of a sneetch from dr Seuss
Vassago is the Oberyn of Helluva Boss. Shows up in one episode, is a minor character, but immediately won literally everyone's hearts. Oh and they both have Spanish influence too!
You missed a couple goetic demons in the background, but they were pretty hard to see so I don't blame you. I only saw them as I was editing my own video on the goetic demons haha.
We got similar answers in our videos, but this is what I got for the different ones:
The guy with the golden arm: Berith because he can turn anything into gold, but I think I like your answer better.
The purple flame: Aim. I think his two other heads are on his shoulders.
The "penguin": He's not a penguin, but Camio a black thrush who lights on fire when he gives advice.
I was stumped on the pigeon and the yellow bird too. I think they were other goetic demons that got bird-ified.
The lava-spitting bird is definitely Aamon.
The bird with three candles: Naberius. I think the three candles represent his three heads in his alternate form.
Horse: I think it's Orobas, but I like your take on this one.
The winged horse/donkey in sweatpants: I thought about Glasya Labolas too, but if there was a dog demon, I think Vivzie would have given them a more zoophobia-esque design. I think I settled on Gamigin because this one looks more like a donkey than a horse.
I will accept your Saleos theory because I have no idea what that demon is supposed to be.
Black bird with the crown: I think I settled on Andras because he looks less like a crow and more like a raven imo.
Red-faced bird with the hat: I thought it was Shax when I first saw the trailer, and then I saw the pink and blue bird, so now I think it's Malthus, another stork demon.
I go into more depth in my video, but just wanted to give you my input.
awesome I'll probably be cross referencing yours as well next time we go into any of these. I really want to make a chart like I did for the 7 sins but we don't really know where to place them haha
Well, from what I've read about Saleos, he's usually depicted as a man with a crown riding a crocodile. It could explain his crown, but they look more like antlers that fused to me. Maybe the crocodile like face?? He's a Duke in the ars goetia, and one of the more benevolent ones. With high loyalty to Lucifer, wanting to make the world a better place for all.
Let me know if you need any help. Could definitely use another pair of eyes on some of these. I tried looking at the crowns or headwear and placements, but they are all very inconsistent.
i thought the black bird with the crown might be Halphas/malphas (wasn't sure on whcih is the correct spelling) o3o then again that redbird with the big hat with a red feather in it might be him, because he is often drawn wearing a similar hat
@@KolkoCatHow did you spot the other Goetias so quickly?😯
Paimon likely didn't attend as he probably didn't even know it was happening, they didn't even invite Stolas and he only found out by flicking through TV channels
He wouldn't attend anyway since he can't keep track of his children and it seems he don't like physical appearances hence the mirror.
3:30 Nah I liked his introduction, what kind introduction did you except of him? that he suddenly stand up and introduce himself to the audience?
Vassago definitely has the most positive response from his debut episode
I love that Vassago floats on a star
@@tabithachastain6999 a controls it by simply walking on it
you know a character is good when the first 2 minutes of knowing them makes you their favourite character
Vassago was the MVP for me, I really like him! Here hoping for more screen time for him!
Season 3.... 👀
Vasago is also a Macaw from south america! It is likely that's why he leans more spanish, which I appreciate. It really makes you realize that the writers and character designers care about not just how each character looks but how they sound too!
7:22 Thats Aim (3 heads, a human calf and a snake's head.) and two stars on his forehead
Vassago seems to actual like and or respect Stolas. Always great to have friends among extended family.
5:25 well google “ara” parrot and where it comes from, i dont know if its the reason but it would fit perfectly and also man that spanish fits him so well as character, that attitude of his 💅✨
Did you know you can't spell 'Vassago' without 'ass'? No idea what I want you to do with this information but here you go nonetheless
Thanks, I guess?
You can't spell assassin without it (two times) either 😂
I want me some of that vass ass ~
Stol(ASS) and V(ASS)AGO 😂
Where does Stella fall in the ars goetia. She doesn't seem to be powerful at all but she also seems to hold royalty status but no royal duties
I would love to get to know more about Vassago and the Ars Goetia we see in Mastermind! Even though we know that Vassago supports Stolas and he hates Andrealphus for his obnoxious behavior. I have a feeling Vassago will help Stolas out even though he lost everything. Also seeing Vassago speak Spanish especially when he's angry is hilarious.😮😊😂🦜
Vassago ❌
Perrito ✔️
3:03
"Its theorized he wanted to take his title"
Bro was on his fucking KNEES for that title
08.10 "the only fallen angel we know so far"
Vaggie:😮🤨
Vaggie isn't fallen just stranded
Why does "falling" refer to both a moral failing, and the physical disability of losing their wings? I can understand the moral causing the physical, but it's always implied that the physical causes the moral, as well.
I do hope we’re given more info on the Ars Goetia’s purpose in the Hellaverse in future episodes.
I also love how unique their designs are.😈👍
Paimon probably forgot stolas was his son I mean he has done it before
And it seems he don't do anything public without a mirror.
It was my pleasure helping out with the identification. Although I believed the horse demon to be Gamigin instead of Eligos. But at the end of the day, these are all guesswork.
Maybe paimon didnt show up to the trial because hes "the most loyal to lucifer" and doesnt want to endulge satans court
The 'big bird' looking guy looks like a Dr Seuss character
05:55 09:22 I love the Bird demon with the candles on his head. Looks a lot like a Skeksis.
Vassago is my new favorite character
I cant wait to see more of Vasago
That “big bird” is 100% one of the dr Seuss sneetches
0:12 “and I just had the greatest coughing fit of my life 💅🏻🌟”
They way he just blows it off his shoulder 😂
it got worse I woke up at like 1am and had another coughing fit. I'm fine now though.
Wasn't Paimon the one who "bought" Stolas the imp in the first place? It could very well of hurt him as well as stolas if it got out that's perhaps why he didn't attend.
Because little Stolas wanted a friend and was entertained by Blitzo.
I believe that the crow beside Vassago is the demon Raum, also set to take the form of a crow, however "his office is steal treasures out of kings houses and to carry it whither he is commanded" that's why he is wearing so much jewellery
“And I just had the greatest coughing fit of my life” - You’re definitely not alone rn bro me too.. 😭
I don't know why but Vassago reminds me of the characters from The Three Caballeros
6:45 The smoke around his head makes me belive that he is somehow connected to polusion of the earth
Andrealphus will be going through a real hell having to adjust to stolas's duties.
Those designs just go so hard !
While the Ars Goetia appear to always assemble in Hell's council to examine specific circumstances alongside their master Lucifer, they can have their quarters within Hell, which range from castles, underground defenses, or even a separate dimension that is tethered to Hell. These palaces are modified to suit the precise Goetic demon's position.
The Goetia are separated into an aristocratic hierarchy, with successive classes:
Kings of Hell
Dukes of Hell
Princes of Hell
Marquises of Hell
Counts of Hell
Knights of Hell
Presidents of Hell.
It seems you might’ve missed one Goetia. During the start of Stolas’ part of the Mastermind number, when he’s playfully sneaking around the pew boxes, one of the Goetia from below(?) turns to look back at him. He resembles a black maned lion from what I can tell.
11:38 looks like a demon angry bird
10:42 so that yellow guy is actually based off of Dr. Suess's The Sneetches book, which clicked to me immediately
10:45 -- Looks like one of Dr. Seuss's sneetches to me.
Someone mentioned this but I was gonna say it anyway but Vassago speaking Spanish is because his designed to be a Scarlet Macaw which are South American birds but him being part of music industry wouldn’t surprise me since parrots in media are always depicted to being the musical type, we see this in the movie Rio and the Rito bard Kass from the Zelda series is designed after the blue and yellow macaw
So far we 28 out of 72 if you count the large bird and the two whose names were repeated two times. Which means there are a total of 44 left to be revealed for seasons 3 and 4.
A good amount of them are big cats such as Ose, Glorious, Purson, or Orias, or horses like Andremalech, and Orobas
9:57 I agree that looks like a clever design, the picture you show has a crown and horn very cool to combine then into horn like crown
10:52 that is a sneetch and you cannot tell me otherwise
Definitely... but is he a star-bellied sneetch?
7:14
not only does that demon look more feminine but they are also a hummingbird
I love Vassago and how they got right to him wanting to summon Stolas like he was old friends and having him supported his song showed their bond and I hope we see more of him. I think he will visit Stolas to bring some stuff from his hone he swiped and comfort him by saying he keep trying to get in touch with his daughter
Honestly Stolas father didn’t even know which one he was. I m not surprised he didn’t show up.
I was rewatching the hh pilot and only just noticed his appearance there! Nice that viv snuck in that joint character between the series, even though we only briefly saw him in huh.
Cool video! But small correction: at 2:58 it's astronomy not astrology
Seeing Vassago in this episode made me happy. I hope that in future seasons, we will get see how Vassago and Stolas's relationship came to be. I know Stolas watches a lot of Spanish sopera, and with Vassago having a star theme, he could be in the Telenovela business rather than normal soperas. Plus, Vassago's love of music through Stolas's singing could that he is in the music business, but hopefully, we get to see it.
Vissago was in a previous episode, the one with stella having her non-divorce ceremony
I can’t wait to see where they take Octavia specifically, wether they make her see Stolas alive with Blitzø and resenting him since she thinks he’s dead or Stolas goes to her and makes sure she safe and all. The fact he wasn’t immediately worried about his daughter when he lost his powers makes me scared that she is going to resent him.
Im really exited for Vassago I really liked him a lot and hope he’ll be in the show more I think he and Oktavia would be pretty ok together the goetia family is super interesting and I hope we’ll dive in more.
9:34 is probably Bifrons is a goetic demon who puts candles on graves in the Lesser Key of Solomon.
I like the idea of Beelz being a goetia simply by the fact that out of all the Sins, only the 2 with links to the Goetia family hook up with lesser demons.
3:42 yea it was in Hazbin Hotel Pilot
to be fair, that’s not canon to either show (something similar to the events did happen, just not exactly what was shown in the pilot)
@ “not canon” yet Episode 1 is basically the Pilot
@@GamingSpider115 that is true, but still
a bunch of background details were changed from the pilot, so just take stuff from it with a grain of salt
If there is one metaphorical "Phoenix" in this universe it is Sir Pentious. 7:59 is the exact thing that happened 😊
I love big bird.😊
I had a coughing fit too 😭
the pain is real
Vassago is already my favorite. I hope we see him again
No. Beelzebub here is clearly not Baal and a member of the Goetia. If Vivienne makes each devil's name a separate character (Lucifer, Satan, Leviathan, Beelzebub, Azazel), then it makes sense for Baal to be a separate character. Moreover, they are almost not related to each other, except for the name. Even their sigils are still different, although slightly similar.
The Hazbin pilot was clearly not Stolas. The Boss pilot was made around the same time. And that owl has ears. So it's just a coincidence. That red parrot is definitely Vassago.
Nowhere was it said that Lucifer is the only fallen angel (until Vaggie). Sins and someone from Goetia can also be fallen angels. And the latter created wives for themselves, with whom they bore darling children. Only kings of Goetia can be made angels.
Based on the descriptions in the Lesser Key of Solomon, one can try to guess all of these demons.
1) On the balcony with Andrealphus. The skeleton of a vulture with a candle on its head is the Count and Duke Murmur (he summoned the souls of the dead and was occasionally depicted as a vulture), the Pegasus girl is Princess Orobas or Marquise Samigina, the horse is Orobas or Duke Amdusias (because of the crown in the form of a horn, and this demon was depicted as a unicorn). It is unclear who the yellow bird and the terrible deer in a uniform are, because there are no demons with such an appearance in the Lesser Key.
2) On the balcony with Vassago. The vulture with a cane is Prince and Count Ipos (he was also occasionally presented as a vulture), the raven with gold jewelry is Count Raum (because he likes to steal treasures and jewelry), the winged leopard is Prince Sitri, the snake is Count and Governor Botis. Later, during Satan's song, a girl (Duchess Gremory) appears here. It is unclear what the name of the goat and the bird in the hat is.
3) The balcony shown during Stolas' song. The demon with a mechanical arm and a head in the form of a rat's skull (and a foul gas around it) is Count Bifrons (he was depicted with a head of a rat's skull and was responsible for necromancy), the fire-headed demon is Governor Ami (he was depicted as fire), the deer with a fiery tail is Count Furfur, the fire bird is Marquis Phenex (he was depicted as a phoenix), the raven with a bottle of beetlejuice is Marquis Aamon (who was in Charlie's phone contacts) or Governor Malphas. There is also a lion flashing here - this is Governor Marbas, King Purson, Ipos, Marquis Sabnock, King and Count Vine, Marquis Oriax or Duke Vapula. There is also a hummingbird in a fur coat and a white bird with a large crest.
Perhaps these are demons, whose design Vivienne rethought, as with Vassago the parrot (who in the religion was an old man riding a crocodile).
Vivienne promised that season 3 will be dedicated to Goetia, we will see the brothers/sisters and Stolas' mother. Hopefully, we will learn all the intricacies of this class of demons and we will see the other 46 demons of Goetia and the names of those present in the court will be revealed to us.
I can see two character reasons that Paimon wasn't at the court ruling:
1. Is in universe: that's he has gotten so little connection to Stolas that he has forgotten he's his son and simply deemed it unimportant to show up.
- An extension to this is that he hasn't been informed by Andrealphus about the case specifically out of fear of the outcome, since he might've been given control of Stolas' legions instead of Andrealphus. Given the emphasis that Andrealphus puts on the Legions that Stolas has they translate to power and influence, and in the Ars Goetia Paimon is stated to control 200 legions (more so than any other Goetia, including Asmodeus with a mere 72), compared to Andrealphus' 30+ legions, Paimon is an absolute powerhouse militarily (and thus politically) and could easily tip the scales in whatever way he wanted, which as far as Andrealphus would be concerned, would be towards Paimon's own family, estranged or not.
2. Is more about his character in the Ars Goetia which we haven't seen in the series, that he's the most loyal to Lucifer. Given Satan's liberal take on hells' history, Paimon might've spoken out against him and made the trial draw out, or, called into question the legality of it all since Lucifer isn't present for the ruling of a powerful royal. Paimon's loyalties to the actual ruler in hell over the one judging would cause other high ranking demons to exclude him to avoid trouble, and to ensure they're not late for lunch.
Hopefully Paimon is still kicking and will make his views on the events known in the future. Whichever side he'll take is up in the air though, Stolas is his estranged son and he might have some lingering familial loyalties, but Stolas has still broken hell's laws.
Ohhhhh learning about some actual Ars Goetia, very Interesting to hear
Vasago, looks like he was modeled after a parrot, and most parrots are from South America, which would explain his Spanish accent.
I love that Verssago is speaking spanish. This is the second time we've heard spanish on the show (first being in the goat mission) and it always makes me so happy as a spanish speaker. The language also does lend itself for berating idiots
We actually don't know that Paimon wasn't at the trial... because he's a shapeshifter, he could have been there under a different shape.
Cool demonology fact the nun demon that appears in the conjuring and the nun movies is a president ranked demon.
I'm a fan of the Ars Goetia myself and while we can only guess who the Goetias are from the recent episode, most named seem to be spot on for who they may be.
I myself favor Andras the most out of all 72, and I'm not sure the one at 8:20 is him. Andras is an owl or raven, and that one there looks more like a quail or something. I've even seen a video where one said the crow at 12:02 is Andras, but I agree it most likely Malphas. Plus, if that is Andras and his design was changed, what did he look like before and in what episode? I'm confused myself, but I guess we shall see if that is Andras or not.
For now, we can only speculate the Goetia identities, and maybe they will be officially confirmed someday, but its nice we got to see most of them in Mastermind.
9:30 literally just as i was thinking about the fact it looked like a skeksis
"Big Bird" is actually Dr Suess
Yippi finalle,
i have waited.
Japanese speakers in the Envy Ring? That’s a brilliant idea!
I believe that Vassago is speaking Spanish as a reference to his voice actor being the one who voiced Perrito from Puss in Boots the Last Wish.
2:58 , Andrealphus is giving yellow pearl energy and I’m all for it 🎉
Vassago feels familiar because he was in the hasbin hotel pilot, Where he was shown to be one of the overlords when Vaggie was talking about how powerful Alastor is
I remember an interview this year where ViviziePop talked about Stella backstory being explored in Season 3, also mentioning the kings of the Ars Goetia (which makes me wonder if Stella and Andrealphus are children of one of the Kings)
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Maybe Bael is going to be revealed to have some correlation with Beelzebub, or officialy conflueted with one another for semplicity.
The demon with the fiery head and stars on their horns is definitely Aym/Haborym. They have stars on their forehead, their power is fire-based, and the faces on the shoulders are their other heads
bird with "theater face " might still be stolazzz the dramaqueen XD
Someone made a video pointing out all the Ars goetia names and titles from the ones we could see. But noticeably, not a single Ars Goetia king was present during the trial of stolas
I thought Vassago was a parrot demon at first because he looks like a red Macaw
Love the unique designs, especially the robotic arm demon (Marbas as you said)
It was somhou clear that Vassago would not be an opponent. If Viz sticks a little to the demon princes and their descriptions, it becomes clear that Vassago is described as a fairly good spirit among the demon princes, who tries not only to do evil. So. Following this, he tries to confront the accuser in the episode for a more fair trial. Viz staged this very well because the viewer immediately notices in the short screen time that the Goita comes across as quite likeable.
And if she wants to stick with Princes, she could bring in Seere, who is also considered to be good natured. Two princes helping Stolas is better than one!
I think it's possible Stolas and Vassago are brothers. Paimon did confirm that he has more than one son when he struggles to remember Stolas' name because 'There are so fucking many'. But we have yet to be absolutely introduced to a canon brother of Stolas. On top of that, Stolas and Vassago do look near identical other than the number of eyes each bird has
I feel like there doesn’t really have to be a reason for Vassago to speak Spanish other than it’s a character choice. It gives some variety to the characters and makes them feel more unique to each other. I think some people want to have some big important reason for every choice made in the show when sometimes it’s not that deep, it’s just “Macaw from South America, he speak Spanish.”