I can't believe they would let fans which stopped around 86 run on the floor like that w/ the players & coach's. So lucky the players weren't hurt. Riley was running for his life!
I SAW PAT RILEY ONE DAY JUST STANDIND THERE ALONE, I RAN OVER TO EMBRACE HIM AROUND HIS WAIST, AND HE WARMLY EMBRACED ME BACK, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS SAID, I WAS SO EXCITED, HE WAS BIGGER THAN LIFE....... I HAD HIM ALL TO MYSELF, JUST STANDING THERE ALONE.
I was mad as hell. After all I STILL AM A LAKER FAN. He did a very , very great job for us and achieved a lot for our organisation. Don’t know why he went to the Knicks. Just to be clear on this, I like the Knicks as well. I have nothing against them, especially that Ewing, Oakley , Harper, Jackson, Houston, Mason, Starks, Wilkins, Larry Johnson, Kurt Thomas, Sprewell, Camby, Tucker, walker, unit👍👍👍👍I always said back than, and till now: IF THE LAKERS DONT BECOME CHAMPIONS, LET IT BE THE BOYS FROM THE BIG APPLE. I went to THE MADISON SQUARE GARDEN ONCE and couldn’t believe my eyes. It’s LAKERS FIRST THOUGH. Respect to NYC👌
The Miami crime family is taking the NBA by Storm don Riley is happy with say report lol Iam in no shape and form talking smack about pat he on my top 5 list as favorite coaches iam just remember how people use to called a gangster back in the day with his slick black hair and expensive Italian suits
@@joejames9974 lol, yeah, I was born in ‘79 and growing up in the ‘80’s my Father was a huge basketball fan, I remember watching the “showtime” Lakers, lol, who team was awesome, and that’s when/how I first heard of Riley 👍
@@stevenjamesgiurbinojr6893 iam a pelicans fan born in 86 yeah bad year for the showtime Lakers when the twin towers put them out but yeah I love the showtime Lakers when I watch ESPN classic the star power and the high speed style of basketball the wizardly magic Johnson and the old man strength of Kareem that was awesome
I was fortunate enough to be in the old Boston Garden when the Lakers won... I was in the locker room with the Lakers and got showered with champagne... I still have the pictures from those days...even though I was and still am a Celtics fan.... great times.
You are a Celtics fan but ended up in the lakers locker room after the game while they were celebrating? Uh were you high ? Drunk? I mean damn how does a Celtics fan end up there of all places with pictures of the event?
I remember Joe McDonnell breaking the news that Riley was fired on a Sunday night radio show. So when the press conference was held days later, everybody in the media had already known he was fired. Years later, Riley sort of confirmed this. McDonnell would say on his show that Riley had finally admitted that he was indeed let go by the Lakers.
@@btventura9570 Big Nasty called him "Dictator Riley" which is why he was fired. Having a too intense training camp in Santa Barbara just before the finals probably sealed his fate. Joe would also rename Del Harris as "Dull Harris".
Joe McDonnell told me that Riley was pushed out when I called in his show, Wilt Chamberlain said in his book that he was told as much. Perhaps the Lakers didn't want the same fallout that they had with the Paul Westhead situation.
@@hawaiianpunch5432 Joe was a good guy, but he had many names that he called people on his show to stir stuff up that I didn't agree with. Riley's intensity helped him be as good as he was, but it may have been too much that weekend in Santa Barbara...that team in 89 with Orlando Woolridge might have been the best of all the title teams.
I was a boy when I heard this, I recall both my parents who made this a hot topic and to me then it was just gibberish. Now that I've become a lifelong lover of basketball and from LA, I wonder what was going on behind all this. I recall my mom saying the players were sick and tired of his controlling type of style of governing the squad and years later that led me to hypothesize that the players thought they didn't need Riles. That's so terrible, actually a de-merit for my love of the Showtime Lakers if that's the case. I would just be happy as a clam knowing that to this day, Riles would be with us right here and having I would imagine more success than NY and Miami and continuing the Laker tradition and the last link besides Stu Lantz to Chick Hearn.
The lakers job at that time was very hard to accept and be seen as successful. When the guy before you took the lakers to a championship in his first season with a 20 year old magic Johnson all fans are going to expect is now you have Johnson in his prime therefore you should win many championships. Riley did an amazing job really & I always rooted against the lakers. Side note for me now, I was always taken aback that Riley and job stability wasn’t more of an issue in 1986. They lost to Houston in just 5 games and in the 5th and climatic game Olajuwon had fouled out yet the rockets took down the mighty lakers. That’s actually when I assumed Riley would possibly be fired.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 Read my comment again. I was noting that the head coach before him had a 20 year old magic Johnson leading the lakers to a championship, then Riley inherits a team with that same Magic Johnson entering his PRIME years. Not an easy assignment, im saying people are just going to expect championships or take them for granted.
@@averydaymond1560 I could not agree with you more in response to both your original post and follow up about people taking title expectations for granted. As a Lakers fan since 1987 and Magic being my all time favorite player, I learned over the years coaching teams stacked with stars is actually the most challenging because not all coaches can get the players' respect to play a certain system and accept roles within it. Some fans don't understand you cant just roll out a basketball and say "Go play!" which was why Riley was overdue getting the respect from the media and novice fans for his coaching success.
the 88 finals mvp should have gone to magic johnson but the #1 overall best 1980's player was kareem abdul-jabbar and he should've been the finals mvp in 80 + 82 to go with him winning it in 71 + 85
@@youtuber3328 Magic got it on the strength of an iconic clinching game the same way Worthy did in 1988. You don't throw up a 42/15/7 without missing a game and not win MVP. That's still on the short list of the best Finals performances EVER.
@@danlower7834 it is, but there’s no denying he was outcoached by a big margin by Phil. He had long stretches of no ball handler after Pippen picked up Magic full court and there’s was nobody else to do that duty. When Detroit did that, they even had AC green bring it up to save Magics stamina which was bad at this point in his career.
Had Riley coached that team, well, either they would have failed from burnout, or they would have actually beat the Bulls. No question you can debate Jordan vs Johnson that match up, debate the rest of the team, but the huge difference was tge coach.
@@dagameplayer It's called an opinion. Go look up a dictionary. Just like what you shared. Fact is when you put the respective 1991 contestants side by side, the biggest difference is the man on the sideline. Dunleavy is an average at best coach, cannot hold a flame to Jackson, a top three or four general all time.
Hold up so in 1990 pat lakers lost to phoenix i m a 93 baby. Never got to see mj with hair magic or anyone pre 1997. But my question was why did oat leave the lakers? I felt like he could ve became a assistant coach or fallen back he was still good as a coach.
Both the Lakers and the Knicks were morons for not making room for Pat Riley in the front office when he was done coaching. Now, LA is in shambles and NY has no chance of being great any time soon. You don’t doubt The Godfather.
@@Shawn_Babcock Jerry West presided over the Lakers from the Showtime Era to the SHAQ and Kobe era. He left in 2003 and Mitch Kupchak took over. Sure the Lakers won in 2009 and 2010 but those teams were not super teams and were very reliant on Kobe. If you look at the lakers since that 2010 title, they have been horribly run and only won in 2020 cause LeBron was there and they mvoed Heaven and Earth to get AD. Jerry West put the Warriors together and had a hand in them drafting Klay and Steph Curry. Don’t sleep.
@@VickStarkiller I was talking about at the time they had West in charge. He was probably the best GM in the NBA his entire tenure there. Why would Buss let him go to let Riley have more control? Pat Riley has been amazing in the Miami front office, but LA had no need for him there
@@Shawn_Babcockbuss didn't let him go west say it himself that he was looking for more challenges he won so much with la especially when he won one from his playing days he wanted to help a losing team get a championship
Thanks for your comment! Phil Jackson, in my opinion, couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. He had the architect of the triangle and one of the best coaches ever-Tex Winter-on his staff for most of his titles. His teams were far and away better than any of the competition he faced in the finals-only beating title winners like the Celtics in his last championship and the Lakers in his first. He exacerbated the negativity surrounding the opposite demeanors of Shaq and Kobe-destroying that relationship. He never built on the talent of the teams handed to him in Chicago and LA, only rode them out until they died. He got completely out coached by the Pistons Larry Brown and the Celtics Doc Rivers in two title appearance losses. Auerbach was right - he is a fraud. He also screwed the owners daughter who was working for the organization. Wooden and Auerbach? I agree.
And in 2022 after 27 years with Miami and 3 championships later HES STILL AN OG
Facts!! The god father of the NBA.
@Ziggy Stardust why did you mention Phil Jackson lol
#HEAT
El Padrino del baloncesto.
@@Polo22546from his hair always in perfect shape plus wearing those armin suits he is the nba godfather
Here after watching S2 E5. Best episode of the series so far.
They cast that shit perfectly. Great show, shame it got cancelled 😭
"No more of this 'Riles' shit! --it's 'COACH'!"
We need a documentary on Pat Riley
💯 FACTS!!!
Called winning time but nobody watched it so it got canceled :(
From a Celtic fan, loved Pat Riley, one of the best ever in NBA history
I can't believe they would let fans which stopped around 86 run on the floor like that w/ the players & coach's. So lucky the players weren't hurt. Riley was running for his life!
Players became expensive commodities. Not just athletes
Happened in 1988
@@TL2354yup
Love this type of stuff
Pat is Kentucky and Lakers basketball legend.
Pat Riley is style and substance
I SAW PAT RILEY ONE DAY JUST STANDIND THERE ALONE, I RAN OVER TO EMBRACE HIM AROUND HIS WAIST, AND HE WARMLY EMBRACED ME BACK, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS SAID, I WAS SO EXCITED, HE WAS BIGGER THAN LIFE....... I HAD HIM ALL TO MYSELF, JUST STANDING THERE ALONE.
And then the police put the cuffs on and you were escorted downtown, as usual....
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😏
I was mad as hell. After all I STILL AM A LAKER FAN. He did a very , very great job for us and achieved a lot for our organisation. Don’t know why he went to the Knicks. Just to be clear on this, I like the Knicks as well. I have nothing against them, especially that Ewing, Oakley , Harper, Jackson, Houston, Mason, Starks, Wilkins, Larry Johnson, Kurt Thomas, Sprewell, Camby, Tucker, walker, unit👍👍👍👍I always said back than, and till now: IF THE LAKERS DONT BECOME CHAMPIONS, LET IT BE THE BOYS FROM THE BIG APPLE. I went to THE MADISON SQUARE GARDEN ONCE and couldn’t believe my eyes. It’s LAKERS FIRST THOUGH. Respect to NYC👌
here after they canceled winning time
And pat 2022 is doing a great job as a gm for the miami heat amazin!
Pat Riley, and also Jerry West, those 2 men have had great success even after leaving the Lakers
Actually Pat Riley is the Heat's team President, but yes he deserves 100% credit for his GM Andy Elisburg making the right moves building the team.
The Miami crime family is taking the NBA by Storm don Riley is happy with say report lol
Iam in no shape and form talking smack about pat he on my top 5 list as favorite coaches iam just remember how people use to called a gangster back in the day with his slick black hair and expensive Italian suits
@@joejames9974 lol, yeah, I was born in ‘79 and growing up in the ‘80’s my Father was a huge basketball fan, I remember watching the “showtime” Lakers, lol, who team was awesome, and that’s when/how I first heard of Riley 👍
@@stevenjamesgiurbinojr6893 iam a pelicans fan born in 86 yeah bad year for the showtime Lakers when the twin towers put them out but yeah I love the showtime Lakers when I watch ESPN classic the star power and the high speed style of basketball the wizardly magic Johnson and the old man strength of Kareem that was awesome
Pat chilling for a year than on his way to New York City
To face mj in the eastern conference.
Pat didn't chill, but worked for the NBA on NBC when NBC took over from CBS
Riley & Cooper left the same season 😞
Winning Time
Digging the music....Training Montage from Rocky 4.
I was fortunate enough to be in the old Boston Garden when the Lakers won... I was in the locker room with the Lakers and got showered with champagne... I still have the pictures from those days...even though I was and still am a Celtics fan.... great times.
Young people just don't understand how great the NBA was back then. 1980 thru 2005 were the best 25 years of the sport.
You are a Celtics fan but ended up in the lakers locker room after the game while they were celebrating? Uh were you high ? Drunk?
I mean damn how does a Celtics fan end up there of all places with pictures of the event?
@@averydaymond1560 it's a cuckholding sort of situation
@@mysterion5136 thats my pistons 04 and 05 that closed it out
@@mysterion5136 it was overrated
that offensive foul at 2:52 just shows how different shit used to be. Not saying better or worse , just an interesting point
Yea, that was brutal.
He gave him the NFL Free Safety shoulder...
Ahhh the good ol' days...
No fracture, no foul
And that wasn't a flop
Dude got annihilated.
Looked lock a block to me. He was leaning.
You can hear the War song from Rocky IV.
I remember Joe McDonnell breaking the news that Riley was fired on a Sunday night radio show. So when the press conference was held days later, everybody in the media had already known he was fired.
Years later, Riley sort of confirmed this. McDonnell would say on his show that Riley had finally admitted that he was indeed let go by the Lakers.
Joe McDonnell was a great old school reporter and quite a character!
@@btventura9570 Big Nasty called him "Dictator Riley" which is why he was fired. Having a too intense training camp in Santa Barbara just before the finals probably sealed his fate.
Joe would also rename Del Harris as "Dull Harris".
Joe McDonnell told me that Riley was pushed out when I called in his show, Wilt Chamberlain said in his book that he was told as much. Perhaps the Lakers didn't want the same fallout that they had with the Paul Westhead situation.
@@hawaiianpunch5432 Joe was a good guy, but he had many names that he called people on his show to stir stuff up that I didn't agree with. Riley's intensity helped him be as good as he was, but it may have been too much that weekend in Santa Barbara...that team in 89 with Orlando Woolridge might have been the best of all the title teams.
@@hawaiianpunch5432 did Corlis Williamson play for Riles? I can't seem to remember.
Amazing footage ! Thanks for posting !!!!
I was a boy when I heard this, I recall both my parents who made this a hot topic and to me then it was just gibberish. Now that I've become a lifelong lover of basketball and from LA, I wonder what was going on behind all this. I recall my mom saying the players were sick and tired of his controlling type of style of governing the squad and years later that led me to hypothesize that the players thought they didn't need Riles. That's so terrible, actually a de-merit for my love of the Showtime Lakers if that's the case. I would just be happy as a clam knowing that to this day, Riles would be with us right here and having I would imagine more success than NY and Miami and continuing the Laker tradition and the last link besides Stu Lantz to Chick Hearn.
I came here after watching winning time
Best team in sports history
The lakers job at that time was very hard to accept and be seen as successful. When the guy before you took the lakers to a championship in his first season with a 20 year old magic Johnson all fans are going to expect is now you have Johnson in his prime therefore you should win many championships.
Riley did an amazing job really & I always rooted against the lakers. Side note for me now, I was always taken aback that Riley and job stability wasn’t more of an issue in 1986. They lost to Houston in just 5 games and in the 5th and climatic game Olajuwon had fouled out yet the rockets took down the mighty lakers. That’s actually when I assumed Riley would possibly be fired.
Riley said if they didn’t win in 85 he probably would’ve been fired after 86 because they lost in 83 and 84
Well, Riley DIDN'T lead the Lakers to that first title with 20 year old Magic. That was Paul Westhead.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 Read my comment again. I was noting that the head coach before him had a 20 year old magic Johnson leading the lakers to a championship, then Riley inherits a team with that same Magic Johnson entering his PRIME years. Not an easy assignment, im saying people are just going to expect championships or take them for granted.
@@averydaymond1560 I could not agree with you more in response to both your original post and follow up about people taking title expectations for granted. As a Lakers fan since 1987 and Magic being my all time favorite player, I learned over the years coaching teams stacked with stars is actually the most challenging because not all coaches can get the players' respect to play a certain system and accept roles within it. Some fans don't understand you cant just roll out a basketball and say "Go play!" which was why Riley was overdue getting the respect from the media and novice fans for his coaching success.
@@averydaymond1560 Magic peaked in '87 and '88 so it took him so long to get there.
and if you think he resigned, I have a bridge I want to sell you.
30 years later Oscar winner Adrien Brody will play Pat Riley
Pat was awesome.
wow young Fred Roggin
I wonder whatever happened to that Riley guy...
Winning Timr brought me here
my left ear is vibing
The LA LAKERS
The team of the 1980s
i did + do really love kareem abdul-jabbar
the 88 finals mvp should have gone to magic johnson but the #1 overall best 1980's player was kareem abdul-jabbar and he should've been the finals mvp in 80 + 82 to go with him winning it in 71 + 85
@@youtuber3328 In 1980, when Magic filled in for Kareem at center and scored 42 in the final game 6, Jamaal Wilkes scored 39.
@@btventura9570 i see ur points but that's 1 game the series mvp in 80 + 82 should have been kareem abdul-jabbar
@@youtuber3328 Magic got it on the strength of an iconic clinching game the same way Worthy did in 1988. You don't throw up a 42/15/7 without missing a game and not win MVP. That's still on the short list of the best Finals performances EVER.
Who else is here after watching "Winning Time" ?
The actor playing Magic might look a lot like him but doesn’t sound like him or anyone from the 70’s/80’s
Yeah, just ignored that '86 season altogether in this video. Good call. Go Celtics btw. 😂
True news anchor hair.
2:52 tackles that guy to the ground on a fast break lol
Winning Time Season 2 brought me here lol
The whole squad had had enough of him by 89 he was running them into the ground .Left a great dynasty though .A great coach no doubt .
It was more than that, though. His ego had gotten out of control.
@@tabibnialawfirm oh yes that as well undoubtedly.
@@tabibnialawfirmHis ego turned the Knickerbockers into championship contenders
Really needed him in 1991 as young Dunnleavy was outcoached.
Getting a team to the Finals in your First year is still a great accomplishment. Dunleavy did so, same as Riley and Westhead before him.
@@danlower7834 it is, but there’s no denying he was outcoached by a big margin by Phil. He had long stretches of no ball handler after Pippen picked up Magic full court and there’s was nobody else to do that duty. When Detroit did that, they even had AC green bring it up to save Magics stamina which was bad at this point in his career.
Had Riley coached that team, well, either they would have failed from burnout, or they would have actually beat the Bulls.
No question you can debate Jordan vs Johnson that match up, debate the rest of the team, but the huge difference was tge coach.
@@broadstreet21 or maybe the Bulls would win it because they were good enough to do so. Save the excuses.
@@dagameplayer It's called an opinion. Go look up a dictionary.
Just like what you shared.
Fact is when you put the respective 1991 contestants side by side, the biggest difference is the man on the sideline. Dunleavy is an average at best coach, cannot hold a flame to Jackson, a top three or four general all time.
They actually did the coaching change press conference in the last episode of Winning Time in they did say it actually happened!!!!!!!!
Hold up so in 1990 pat lakers lost to phoenix i m a 93 baby. Never got to see mj with hair magic or anyone pre 1997. But my question was why did oat leave the lakers? I felt like he could ve became a assistant coach or fallen back he was still good as a coach.
Lost the locker room, wouldn’t have stayed with the Lakers as he wanted to control everything and Buss wasn’t having it
@@rafikz77 I think Riley also got tired of the ShowTime offense and wanted a more physical style of play, like he did with the Knicks
0:39, Wow, what a look!
05-11-2022
Next Episode!!
this is just like that TV show
"Offensive coordinator" Jerry West LOL
And then he signed with NY and forever ruined his basketball legacy
Never was a fan of those Laker teams but respected the shit out of those guys..
Magic is so full of himself.
Full of hiv
He is one big primadonna.
Yo I know that ain’t Colin Cowherd
Fred Roggin 😆
Interesting that they mentioned kareem as the greatest.. Before espn really took over
Jordan hadn’t yet won a title.
Jordan, LeBron, Kareem are the three best NBA players. Each the GOAT of their generation, but Jordan probably the best of them all.
@@divideandmultiplyNO! If your talking about individual talent, Wilt stands alone
@@divideandmultiplyno Lebron isnt
@@howardcosell2022nope. Nice try
Both the Lakers and the Knicks were morons for not making room for Pat Riley in the front office when he was done coaching. Now, LA is in shambles and NY has no chance of being great any time soon. You don’t doubt The Godfather.
Ehh…The Lakers had Jerry West in charge of the front office. I’d say them winning 6 championships since he left more than make up for that
@@Shawn_Babcock Jerry West presided over the Lakers from the Showtime Era to the SHAQ and Kobe era. He left in 2003 and Mitch Kupchak took over. Sure the Lakers won in 2009 and 2010 but those teams were not super teams and were very reliant on Kobe. If you look at the lakers since that 2010 title, they have been horribly run and only won in 2020 cause LeBron was there and they mvoed Heaven and Earth to get AD. Jerry West put the Warriors together and had a hand in them drafting Klay and Steph Curry. Don’t sleep.
@@VickStarkiller I was talking about at the time they had West in charge. He was probably the best GM in the NBA his entire tenure there. Why would Buss let him go to let Riley have more control? Pat Riley has been amazing in the Miami front office, but LA had no need for him there
@@Shawn_Babcockbuss didn't let him go west say it himself that he was looking for more challenges he won so much with la especially when he won one from his playing days he wanted to help a losing team get a championship
@@VickStarkillerquit relying they weren't relying heavy on Kobe
Classics
The news anchor reminds me of Evan Almighty
Fred Roggin just left KNBC in 2023
Magic Johnson is so full of crap on so many levels.
YES! But he made LA, if not the world, of what it is today
Feels like Kareem was the reason he left
Nah kareem by 1987 was 40 by that point. Age was catching up the reason pat left in 90 was ego gotten too big lakers were getting tired of him.
Bob Saggot
Welcome to the knicks!!
i somewhat like riley + he was a top of the line head coach but he didn't = john wooden let alone phil jackson + red aurbach
Thanks for your comment! Phil Jackson, in my opinion, couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. He had the architect of the triangle and one of the best coaches ever-Tex Winter-on his staff for most of his titles. His teams were far and away better than any of the competition he faced in the finals-only beating title winners like the Celtics in his last championship and the Lakers in his first. He exacerbated the negativity surrounding the opposite demeanors of Shaq and Kobe-destroying that relationship. He never built on the talent of the teams handed to him in Chicago and LA, only rode them out until they died. He got completely out coached by the Pistons Larry Brown and the Celtics Doc Rivers in two title appearance losses. Auerbach was right - he is a fraud. He also screwed the owners daughter who was working for the organization. Wooden and Auerbach? I agree.
@@btventura9570 u make 100 % sense but the bulls didn't win it all til he was their head coach + in 04 there was conflict on that lakers team
@@btventura9570 ok round 2 alonzo mourning was better with the hornets + indian river high than the heat cuz playing for wasn't for everybody
@@btventura9570 michael jordan was a legend but not quite as legendary as a guy i love named kareem abdul-jabbar
@@btventura9570 i see ur points but what about mourning being better with the hornets + indian river high cuz of riley being difficult
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