A lot of hand drawn old school techniques and actual ink and paper and cel animation. Now a days it’s all done digitally which is way easier now but perhaps it’s lost some of its soul. A price to pay.
The remake did a good job with the fight and I think some of the some of the attacks feel heavier and the speed feels faster in the new version, but this version of Saitou vs. Kenshin just has so much more soul. The blue color palette, the change in Kenshin's eye color and his ponytail coming undone as a physical change to Battousai. The animation flourishes like the shot of Saitou's feet as he leaps forward in the Gatotsu, and Saitou spitting out a tooth also bring so much to this scene. This episode and the one following are perfection.
i like the remaster generally, but this fight was better in the OG. its clearer what each character was doing. i couldnt tell what saito did with his belt cause it wasnt shown clearly, amongst other things
What makes Ruruoni Kenshin so sad is that it is a manga about regret. about the life of Kenshin lived in regret. Regret is probably the saddest of all human emotions.
The music, the VAs, the animation. It surpasses the remake by far. How I was rooting for the remake to be better but it was so subdued and boring in comparison to not only my memory but to this very same version before me.
Couldn't agree more. I bet you search for this after watching the remake😊 Me honestly giving a low expectations on remake version and yess... It just, good but no goosebumps like the original
@@thx-nk7mwthere were some small details that made the original much better. - Kenshin's hair loosen up after the tie broke - Saito losing a tooth - the fight where kenshin re-sheaths his sword - that yellow eyes everytime he's going back to being battousai (if i remembered correctly, this was the last time he had those yellow eyes)
Right there at 5:46, the music shift into the usual theme for the series kicking in as Kenshin utters such a cold line is completely missing from the new rendition of the fight.
De las mejores peleas del anime, convicción vs convicción, estilos vs estilos e ideologías enfrentadas.....ese atardecer casi noche, que largo fue para ambos.
if there would be a new Kenshin anime then Takahiro Sakurai, Toshiyuki Morikawa, Takaya Kuroda, and Ken Narita all would be an amazing Saito because all sound similar to Hirotaka Suzuoki.
Dua karekter ini keliatan sangat bengis aura membunuhnya sangat terasa dan mereka juga menyingung soal masa lalu yang kelam dari mereka masing masing Duel epic menurut ku👍🤝
bruh but Saito stabbed kenshin first he could have sliced through kenshin's body but instead he pulled back his sword. Saito's intention was not to kill kenshin in the first place but to convince him to join and fight shishio
@@wahoomario4323Yes and no, when he got stabbed he had not yet become his Batusai self, that blow would be very easy for him to dodge. It is also true that Saito had not yet prepared to fight against Batusai, so he was not mentally ready to receive such an attack, otherwise he would have easily dodged it as well.
@@ferdyultrasony7869 sakabatou depannya aja tumpul di balik tajam juga, liat waktu dia lawan jine sengaja dibalikin itu sengaja biar si jine mati tapi di berhentiin kaoru
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No wonder why Hiko Seijuro keep calling Kenshin as a fool apprentice.. he need 4x of gatotsu strikes to learn how to dodge it, while Shishio just need once.. maybe Hiko Seijuro would be happy to have an apprentice like Shishio..
Hiko needed his apprentice had a inner peace With Kenshin come back more mellow and wiser he knew his apprentice was ready Shishio ambitions would not allowed him to learn
@@natenatenate10 i think it just made by the Author himself, so we as the audience could enjoy the battle. Dont forget the fact that shishio is also handicapped with his limitation time in battle.
@@Kotak_Kalibrasi coba ikutin bener d era feodal yg sama2 masih jd hitokiri yg no1 itu sisio makanya paling d buru pas pemerintah saat itu bukan batosai. Pas ketangkep kan d hukum dgn d bakar hidup2 d kira sudah mati itu sisio, g taunya masih hidup, itu pake perban semua kek mumi kan sbg peredam rasa panas dia efek samping hukuman dulu. Kalo sisio fit, sehat kek jaman feodal g yakin batosai bs menang. Kensin sendiri g yakin kan bs ngalahin sisio makanya dia nyari gurunya buat ngajarin teknik tertinggi hiten mitsurugin buat nandingin kekuatan sisia, d tambah lg aura pembunuhnya dah kek jaman feodal dulu jd teknik bertarungnya berkurang.
@@mohjimy6887 kalo lebih kuat Shishio ,terus kenapa dia kalah pas di ova?🙄 ,Terus seandainya Kenshin tidak memakai pedang terbalik ,sudah hilang tadi kepala Shisio, cek di menit 3:31
This was a great fight with a great buildup but once Kenshin hit Saito in the back of the neck at 3:30 it was over. If Kenshin had a normal sword he would have cut Saito’s head off. Kenshin won.
bruh but Saito stabbed kenshin first he could have sliced through kenshin's body but instead he pulled back his sword. Saito's intention was not to kill kenshin in the first place but to convince him to join and fight shishio
One of the best fights in all of anime
❤
For sure!
had kenshin being using a regular katana, our buddy saito would have been out of a head..
The best
@@Deimonos85true...but Saito was holding himself too
斎藤の刀が折れたときのBGMの盛り上げ方熱すぎる
BGM自体が良いってのもあるけど、どのタイミングでその曲を流すかっていう演出の仕方にもセンスが必要なんだなってのがわかる
旧版のスタッフ本当にすごいな
25年以上の前のアニメでこの作画、この臨場感、最高のタイミングに流れ出す気持ち昂ぶる挿入歌。
ゾクゾクしたあの時を思い出すわ。
リメイク版は嬉しいけど、この時と比べたら天と地の差…。
そのまま再放送してくれたらよかったのになぁ。
新作も面白いし戦闘シーンも今どきで迫力はあるのに何かが足りないと思えばソレだ( ´-ω-)σw
@@Shiromi5344今どきなら、もっと迫力出せると思うけどね🤔
和月はこれ嫌いだったらしいけどな
何回見返しても斎藤の刀が折れてからが良すぎる。
BGMの入り、「次は貴様の、首を飛ばす」の間とか
もう何から何まで素晴らしい
マジでそれな過ぎる
リメイク版も悪くはないんだけど今回の話は旧作のが絵も演出も段違いにすごい
Why is this old ass animation better than everything 25 years later
Because no one has any talent
Right.
A lot of hand drawn old school techniques and actual ink and paper and cel animation. Now a days it’s all done digitally which is way easier now but perhaps it’s lost some of its soul. A price to pay.
今観ても本当に素晴らしい
BGMも作画も演出も。
この戦いが始まる直前、剣心が帰ってきたのが黄昏時で徐々に日が落ちて暗くなっていって、刀身や剣心の目の光が際立って…という部分や
途中で剣心の結いていた紐が解けて髪が落ちるのも良い
剣心に手を伸ばした薫の声が音声として無音になるのも「剣心に声が届かない」ってのを表してる
目の色が変わらないと幕末時代の抜刀斎に戻る変化がわかりづらい。それに声優BGM演出テンポ等の違いで重さ怖さ冷徹さの雰囲気が全てリメイクでは失われてる。懐古厨でも構わない。この時代のアニメ凄すぎる。
演出も音楽も声優も神だわ
I still get goosebumps when that yellow eyes returns, takes me back to 2003
リメイクも頑張ってと思うけど、やっぱり旧の絶妙なBGMや声優さんの熱量が違う😮やっぱりこの回は神回だ!
抜刀斎に立ち戻った剣心が得意の抜刀術を連発する所や、道場の壁・天井を使って縦横無尽に立ち回る所が凄くかっこいい…飛天御剣流してる
2人とも刀無くなっても戦うっていうのが明治の東京の剣術じゃなくて、幕末の京都の殺し合いって感じがして好き
表現とか演出とかもうずば抜けとんのよ
漫画をそのまま10倍のクオリティーにして出しました って感じ
絵の綺麗さだけがアニメじゃ無いんよ
ごめん、、、やはり声優のレベルが違う、、、
抜刀斎になった瞬間に逆刃が光るの殺意が蘇ったように見えて良いですね
そういう細かい演出の積み重ねが素晴らしいです。
刀を振る意味、その重さが一秒一秒丁寧に込められている気がする。殺す、殺さずっていう物語の柱の部分が極めて鋭利に描かれていて本当にたまらないです。
この作画が地上波で流れてたのすごい
緊張感が違うんよ
BGMと作画も神
リメイク版が酷いんじゃなく、こっちが映画とかのレベルすら上回る程すごいだけ。作画とか音響とか完璧な事を加えて、抜刀斎の恐ろしさ〜といったありとあらゆるものが適切に素晴らしい表現がなされてる。
これと比べられたらリメイク版が可哀想。リメイク版もよく頑張ったと思う。
ほんまにこの時代でこの迫力と差し込む音楽もやばいですよね
リメイクの斉藤VS剣心も期待してたけど、こっちが良すぎてこっちを見にきてしまいました
リメイク版はやっつけ仕事みたいに感じる。なぜこんなにも素晴らしい旧版からああなったのか。良い場面はそのままにしないまでも、きちんと自分たちの解釈を入れて製作しないと。それが感じられない。
製作陣の才能の問題か。
Personalmente una de las peleas que mas me a emocionado en un anime, simplemente EPICO
定期的に見返したくなる
3:24の斎藤の雄叫びが好きなんだよな
見せ方が素晴らしいねえ
本物のやり取りを見てるみたいだ
これじゃまるでリメイクが道楽みたいじゃないか😅
これを手に汗かきながらリアタイで見てたな~
懐かしw
Sejauh ini, gue paling suka liat duel yang ini... Hawa hitokirinya kerasa banget.
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The remake did a good job with the fight and I think some of the some of the attacks feel heavier and the speed feels faster in the new version, but this version of Saitou vs. Kenshin just has so much more soul. The blue color palette, the change in Kenshin's eye color and his ponytail coming undone as a physical change to Battousai. The animation flourishes like the shot of Saitou's feet as he leaps forward in the Gatotsu, and Saitou spitting out a tooth also bring so much to this scene. This episode and the one following are perfection.
i like the remaster generally, but this fight was better in the OG. its clearer what each character was doing. i couldnt tell what saito did with his belt cause it wasnt shown clearly, amongst other things
are you blind? They didnt even manage to draw Saito's hand position in the new version correctly
何度見ても引き込まれる緊迫感
What makes Ruruoni Kenshin so sad is that it is a manga about regret. about the life of Kenshin lived in regret. Regret is probably the saddest of all human emotions.
この全体的に暗い描写と齋藤と剣心の戦闘描写は神がかってる
i soooo wanna see this fight on the remake
The music, the VAs, the animation. It surpasses the remake by far. How I was rooting for the remake to be better but it was so subdued and boring in comparison to not only my memory but to this very same version before me.
Couldn't agree more. I bet you search for this after watching the remake😊
Me honestly giving a low expectations on remake version and yess... It just, good but no goosebumps like the original
懐古厨って言葉よく出てくるけど、そもそもリメイク版がよく「軽い」って言われるお決まりのパターンに辟易してるのかも。
シリアスさは薄くなるし、画がなんか子供っぽい、映像としては明らかに綺麗になってるものの、動きのメリハリみたいなところが流れちゃってる印象。
シティハンターやスラムダンクの映画版観た時も同じ残念さを感じたかな。
ゲームも映像が進化して「(痛さとかの)衝撃」が伝わりにくくなったイメージ。綺麗なのはいいんだが、粗いのにも良いところはある。
Es una de mis escenas favoritas
まぁ、BGMで臨場感というかそういうのがグッと上がるわけか、、
salah satu best fight di samurai x.. lebih seru daripada kenshin vs sishio malah
Nostalgia
Saito's nickname is "belt buckle man."
やっぱ平成版よ。全てが完璧。
やっぱこれよ
8:57 この「やめんかー‼︎」の人でお馴染みの川路利良は大久保利通に隠れちゃったけど
実は島津斉彬の同伴を務め、禁門の変では戦功を挙げ、戊辰戦争に官軍大隊長として参戦。
初代警視総監に任じられ、西南戦争では抜刀隊を率いて最前線で戦い抜いた。
左之助の言う激動の京都を生き抜いて維新後の混乱期を警察組織を率いて鎮静化させたガチの英雄。
なおこの人の故郷鹿児島では銅像は建っているものの人気はイマイチな模様、西郷の敵に回っちゃった人だからね仕方ないね♂
この時代の味方内で1番強いライバル関係にあるキャラ、(悟空対ベジータ)(幽助対飛影)対決が本当に熱くて好き!!
Ini mah the bestnya menurut saya dibandingkan pas fight lawan simumi tuh ini lebih berasa kaya pas kembali kejaman masih jadi batosai
The remake, even though with better graphics, was such a disappointment that i had to come and see the original again
That's called memory correction.
I haven't seen the old one, so I think the remake is much cooler
@@thx-nk7mwthere were some small details that made the original much better.
- Kenshin's hair loosen up after the tie broke
- Saito losing a tooth
- the fight where kenshin re-sheaths his sword
- that yellow eyes everytime he's going back to being battousai (if i remembered correctly, this was the last time he had those yellow eyes)
@@thx-nk7mw dude learns the term "memory correction" and thinks it applies to everything, what a sad idiot
リメイクがゴミだったので見にきました 旧さっさとサブスク復活しろ
作者が旧作死ぬほど嫌ってるし新作発表辺りで全部消えたから闇に葬られたのかもしれない
るろうに剣心史上最高の名場面、志々雄真実さえ霞む😂
3:28 逆刃刀じゃなかったらもうここで決着ついてるんだよなぁ
それでもあの勢いで鈍器で殴られてるようなもんだから並の奴なら骨粉々で死んでそう
最初から本気牙突だったらそこで決着付いてるし、お互い舐めプのおあいこということで
After watch the remake, still can't compare to this. Tense, music and memories for sure
True.. i watched this scene thousands times,still giving me goosebump
@@abumadina591 they're really capture crucial moment and the music makes more intense
Right there at 5:46, the music shift into the usual theme for the series kicking in as Kenshin utters such a cold line is completely missing from the new rendition of the fight.
couldn't make the filmora logo bigger?
リメイクは他のキャラは違和感あまり無いけど斎藤はある意味、剣心よりも印象深いから日野さんの声は好きだけどやはりちょっと声が高いのが気になる
BGM is way better than new
Awesome
やっぱ旧作の方が良いよなー
抜刀歳に変わっていく変化に連れて場の重苦しさが全然違う。
※語彙量低くてすんません。
動きの緩急が上手い。
De las mejores peleas del anime, convicción vs convicción, estilos vs estilos e ideologías enfrentadas.....ese atardecer casi noche, que largo fue para ambos.
やっぱり、剣心はこれよ。映像作品なら初代アニメが一番。実写も含めこれには勝てない
if there would be a new Kenshin anime then Takahiro Sakurai, Toshiyuki Morikawa, Takaya Kuroda, and Ken Narita all would be an amazing Saito because all sound similar to Hirotaka Suzuoki.
Soma Saito is gonna voice Kenshin in the new reboot.
Heads roll if it weren't for that reverse edge.
Cant wait to see how they animate this!
The old one has better music and more serious background.
Me pregunto que app habrá usado para hacer el video
Dua karekter ini keliatan sangat bengis aura membunuhnya sangat terasa dan mereka juga menyingung soal masa lalu yang kelam dari mereka masing masing
Duel epic menurut ku👍🤝
apalagi ini berbau sejarah
Saito dan Okubo itu pelaku sejarah nyata
tambah epik dan apik
Bengis banget ampe ngomong masa lalu
リメイク版は棒読みに聞こえてどうしても引っ掛かります。こっちは首を絞められてる絶望感がすごい
Acabo de ver la pelea del remake y definitivamente la original es muchísimo mejor
That's called memory correction.
I haven't seen the old one, so I think the remake is much cooler
@@thx-nk7mw Not really. What's better is better.
Sin lugar a dudas.
hay un poco de video en tu marca de agua
So awesome how did Kenshin's hand heal so fast😱
And Saitou's tooth
5:46 Theme Samurai X paling greget… Aura samurai x langsung berasa
Luar biasa
ノーカットが見たかったの!
Anime kenshin yg lama memang mantap..keren
旧作ガチ勢なんだけど、旧作の斎藤さん渋くてエロくて好きなのよ
今のもかっこいいけどなんか色気が足らない笑
came here after watching the fight in the remake wich was such a big disappointment.
EXACTLY
Thin fight better than samurai x remake 2023
Lebih seru lawan saito ketimbang shishio
himura's sakabato save saito life
3:31 If this is a normal katana, he's head was already flying.
bruh but Saito stabbed kenshin first he could have sliced through kenshin's body but instead he pulled back his sword. Saito's intention was not to kill kenshin in the first place but to convince him to join and fight shishio
@@wahoomario4323Yes and no, when he got stabbed he had not yet become his Batusai self, that blow would be very easy for him to dodge. It is also true that Saito had not yet prepared to fight against Batusai, so he was not mentally ready to receive such an attack, otherwise he would have easily dodged it as well.
Kenshin: "Berikutnya, kepalamu yang akan melayang". anjir merinding bener ini kenshin sudah niat membunuh.
cuma ancaman aja, seperti nya waktu itu dia udah lupa udah makai sakabatou.. 😁
Alayy cil
@@furqon4443 namanya juga bocil 😁
Iya anjir, merinding anjir, melayang anjir.
Bociiil bociiil 😁
@@ferdyultrasony7869 sakabatou depannya aja tumpul di balik tajam juga, liat waktu dia lawan jine sengaja dibalikin itu sengaja biar si jine mati tapi di berhentiin kaoru
Stupid Wondershare Filmora, i can't see anything...
He should've used Blender instead...
captionnya itu loh wkakakaka cacad
Inilah Scene duel di Samurai X Yg bagi Gue Paling Seru N Benar2 Dramatis,,Aura Pembunuh Antara Kedua Tokoh ini Benar2 Sangat Kelihatan Di Dalam Duel Ini
Setuju banget aku!!
*WONDERSHARE*
*FILMORA*
Watermark nya kurang GEDE
4:50 斎藤バッテイング太刀
6:44 折れてもかっこいい
Only saito can turn kenshi into battousai again
Tulisannya mengganggu
5:41
Episode berapa nih bro
30
Dendam lama yang bersemi kembali.
No wonder why Hiko Seijuro keep calling Kenshin as a fool apprentice.. he need 4x of gatotsu strikes to learn how to dodge it, while Shishio just need once.. maybe Hiko Seijuro would be happy to have an apprentice like Shishio..
Shishio is a coward who would force his men to weaken Kenshin before fighting him. Too scared of the outcome if they were both at full strength.
Hiko needed his apprentice had a inner peace
With Kenshin come back more mellow and wiser he knew his apprentice was ready
Shishio ambitions would not allowed him to learn
@@natenatenate10 i think it just made by the Author himself, so we as the audience could enjoy the battle. Dont forget the fact that shishio is also handicapped with his limitation time in battle.
@@natenatenate10 perhaps, but it could be just pragmatism, shishio knew he couldn't fight for long periods of time regardless of how strong he was.
Watermarknya kurang Gede
wk wk wk wk sekalian satu layar😊
Klw udah jadi Batousai Kata katanya jadi dingin dan mengerikan...
Dengan kepribadian yg seperti itu pantas klw Kenshin pernah jadi samurai terkuat...
Sebenernya kalo paling kuat sisio, coba ikutin arc sisio bakal ngerti
@@mohjimy6887 tapi Sishio kalah pas adu Tehnik Ougi , seandainya Kenshin pake pedang normal, Sishio udah mati kena Amakakeru ryuno hirameki...
@@Kotak_Kalibrasi coba ikutin bener d era feodal yg sama2 masih jd hitokiri yg no1 itu sisio makanya paling d buru pas pemerintah saat itu bukan batosai. Pas ketangkep kan d hukum dgn d bakar hidup2 d kira sudah mati itu sisio, g taunya masih hidup, itu pake perban semua kek mumi kan sbg peredam rasa panas dia efek samping hukuman dulu.
Kalo sisio fit, sehat kek jaman feodal g yakin batosai bs menang. Kensin sendiri g yakin kan bs ngalahin sisio makanya dia nyari gurunya buat ngajarin teknik tertinggi hiten mitsurugin buat nandingin kekuatan sisia, d tambah lg aura pembunuhnya dah kek jaman feodal dulu jd teknik bertarungnya berkurang.
@@mohjimy6887 nonton sub indo dimana
@@mohjimy6887 kalo lebih kuat Shishio ,terus kenapa dia kalah pas di ova?🙄 ,Terus seandainya Kenshin tidak memakai pedang terbalik ,sudah hilang tadi kepala Shisio, cek di menit 3:31
11:47 Best Part
Membunuhku????
Aku yang akan membunuhmu???
yg setuju di upload semua siapaa???
Hadir
Upload gak pake watermark dong bang , biar berasa lebih seruu
Kalo kenshin gak pakai sakabatou pasti kepalanya saito udah copot
Watermark nya bikin ga nyaman
This was a great fight with a great buildup but once Kenshin hit Saito in the back of the neck at 3:30 it was over. If Kenshin had a normal sword he would have cut Saito’s head off. Kenshin won.
...but he didnt have one. He decided to bring a reverse blade katana to that fight. Thus, he didn't win.
Saito had plenty occasions to kill Kenshin prior to that, so it doesn't matter
Andai pedangnya g terbalik selesai kepala Saito
If it wasnt reverse blade sword, saito's head wouldve been separated from his body
yep.. so in th end that fight was pretty much one sided lol
if Saito used the real Gatotsu from the begining Kenshin will be impaled to the wall
bruh but Saito stabbed kenshin first he could have sliced through kenshin's body but instead he pulled back his sword. Saito's intention was not to kill kenshin in the first place but to convince him to join and fight shishio
hei gambar menghalangi
yo wtf, u realize this shit has filmora right in the middle of the godamn clip right
Copyright issue dude or else youtube gonna remove this video