Yeah same here. I was hanging on every word cause I can't be bothered to do the research myself but he explains it in that technical detail I want to know! The poor guy with long hair seems like he's WAY in over his head haha. He's like dear god man, what are you talking about. Lol I don't mean that in a mean way, I'm sure he just has his focus on other interests like hardware or whatever. Different strokes.
I almost feel a tad jipped, esp how it just cut out at the end. This almost felt like a teaser ad for a watch Wendell build a PC movie. just enough to make me want to get snacks and sit down and watch, yet it was to short to finish rampaging through the cupboards for something I was in the mood for. Maybe next time we can get a few more snips of Wendell fussing with SATA plugs or power cables, keep the teasers flowing. Great vid. B)
Dha(data Horders annonomous) meeting: Dha member: hi, my name's Bob and I'm a data Horder. Crowd:hi Bob. Bob: it's been 5 min and 33.25 seconds since my last download, and 3 hours since I bought a new hard drive.
Must suck being a data hoarder. I only have 4 NAS's, but I am looking to build a 5th to consolidate, I promise. No really this time. I will spin down the old NAS boxes.
"my name is wendell and i am here to welcome you to the storage hoarders support group. We are gonna get through this by encouraging your hoarding addiction and just get to the other side,.." th-cam.com/video/Jqg1G78cH2A/w-d-xo.html
Hey Steve ! I love watching the content that gets cut , and its really awesome of you to post these deleted scenes. Thanks man! i sit here and nerd out to this stuff! :D
I don't do any enterprise stuff. I don't even work in IT. I do use Linux but as people know, to use it daily as a 'final consumer' you don't need to know anything about it. Still, whatever Wendell explains, I listen. Love the guy.
I so wish I had a friend like this who could just sit down and teach me things like this. Sure it would be awesome if/WHEN I screw something up to help me, but it would be awesome just day by day to learn all this stuff.
Now that I have my LTO8 tape backup working, I can go back to screwing around with ZFS. If you don't have LTO tape backup, don't bother effing around with ZFS unless you hate your data (or just don't care about it).
3:00 I don't think that is how unraid works. Parity data is only stored on designated parity drives. All the other Array drives are independent with each their own independent filesystem. Edit: I guess he was taking about brtfs on the cache pool and not the main Array disks.
@@gnsteve8846 I also know how unraid works, I run unraid. The unraid Array does not work in the way he described. Unraid is not raid it is in the name. Array disks are independent drives with their own filesystem, all parity data is stored on parity drives. You can ask this on the official unraid forums, they will agree with me.
Does consistency implemented in a RAID array has to do with a ballot system such as in an electoral college or as in a popular vote? The majority whose got the same data is the one who has the correct copy or the majority of controllers whose notice discrepancy are the one with the correct data?
Because it's a hugely superior file system. It's just not ideal for your ghetto home setup where you want to slowly add one drive at a time. It's for enterprise.
@@gnsteve8846 Hey, if I'm complaining about anything it's my lack of long term memory. Anyway I'm all for publishing BTS and deleted scenes publicly, there's way too much cool stuff over there to keep it all unlisted. Cough cough for anyone not on patreon
Ha ! Not quite an addiction they have. Perhaps more a drive with little money - better said, a slew of drives with little money and enough know how to get themselves in trouble.
Wendell, I love you, but you still have no clue how Unraid's native parity system works. There is zero point in choosing ZFS over unraids native if you are not using ECC memory as ZFS depends on 'knowing' the data in ram is good to prevent bitrot. As for the actual file system, Unraid does not store any parity information on data disks. all the parity is on 1 or 2 separate parity disks. With unraid you can add a new disk of any size up to an equal size to your parity drives and you add the full capacity of that drive. no space is taken up by parity on the data drives. this has the added feature that in a worst case of more than 2 drives failing in the array, you only lose the data on failed drives, anything on drives that are still good is still there, where as with ZFS, if more than your failure threshold of drives fail you all data on the array. Wendell is awesome, but when it comes to unraid go check out SpaceInvaderOne
Steve looks like he needs the bathroom, but isn't allowed to leave until the server is built.
Wendell: “it puts the hard drive in the basket or it GETS THE HOSE AGAIN!”
Yeah he doesn't want to hear the explanations. That's frustrating for me when people are like that, but it's their right. I just walk away.
That man is like Bob Ross, I could listen to him talk all day
Yeah same here. I was hanging on every word cause I can't be bothered to do the research myself but he explains it in that technical detail I want to know! The poor guy with long hair seems like he's WAY in over his head haha. He's like dear god man, what are you talking about. Lol I don't mean that in a mean way, I'm sure he just has his focus on other interests like hardware or whatever. Different strokes.
Bob Ross of computers
I almost feel a tad jipped, esp how it just cut out at the end. This almost felt like a teaser ad for a watch Wendell build a PC movie. just enough to make me want to get snacks and sit down and watch, yet it was to short to finish rampaging through the cupboards for something I was in the mood for. Maybe next time we can get a few more snips of Wendell fussing with SATA plugs or power cables, keep the teasers flowing. Great vid. B)
it's bonus footage, probably from the Raid building vid on main channel.
I see that Wendell's Swiss army knife has a screwdriver built in; making The Verge proud :3
Sick burn
I just picked up a Swiss army knife to build a new PC. Hopefully it has a screwdriver. I still need to get some tweezers and an Allen wrench.
@@qwertyferix Dont forget the anti-static wristband
Blazer 6905\ Does the "wireless" version cost more? /s :-)
Michael Pohoreski yea it’s super limited
That’s a damn good explanation of ZFS, I was just waiting for the ECC memory conversation to follow
No, no. Overload.
Dha(data Horders annonomous) meeting:
Dha member: hi, my name's Bob and I'm a data Horder.
Crowd:hi Bob.
Bob: it's been 5 min and 33.25 seconds since my last download, and 3 hours since I bought a new hard drive.
Me: "I don't have a hoarding problem. I just really like to access internet porn while offline."
Must suck being a data hoarder. I only have 4 NAS's, but I am looking to build a 5th to consolidate, I promise. No really this time. I will spin down the old NAS boxes.
@@caffeinesippingman 45 drives has a solution for that problem.
Absolutely a gem thank you so so much
"They have an Addiction, They need Help!" Yup Thats me! :D
Tell me about it! It's not even 5am and I've already purchased 84TB of storage and that was LTO tape!
"my name is wendell and i am here to welcome you to the storage hoarders support group. We are gonna get through this by encouraging your hoarding addiction and just get to the other side,.."
th-cam.com/video/Jqg1G78cH2A/w-d-xo.html
I know you actually had something to get done, but a Wendell live-stream woulda been cool.
*shrugs* I'd be totally fine with someone juggling camera & chat to get that sorta content.
Hey Steve ! I love watching the content that gets cut , and its really awesome of you to post these deleted scenes. Thanks man! i sit here and nerd out to this stuff! :D
When the singularity happens, I hope Wendell converges. I'd pay for a subscription to ask him questions on demand
I don't do any enterprise stuff. I don't even work in IT. I do use Linux but as people know, to use it daily as a 'final consumer' you don't need to know anything about it.
Still, whatever Wendell explains, I listen. Love the guy.
You leave my addiction alone. I need 200TB and 40Gbe networking.
That's it, or is that in each system.
hey Wendell, glad to see your swiss army knife hopefully has a phillips head screwdriver ;)
The ULTIMATE TEAM UP of Tech Jesus & Bob Ross of Tech!
Damn Wendell. I already thought you were knowledgeable before hearing you explanation of ZFS. Glad I went with FreeNAS (via proxmox). Nice breakdown.
Tech Jesus’s CPU was maxed out keeping up with Level 1.
Tech Jesus can't compete with tech god.... but it's more like tech Moses vs tech god. Lol
Thanks steve
This really needed the MacGyver "Gonna build some amazing shit"-song playing. You know which one I mean. You know. And you know it!
I enjoyed this video. Thank you steve.
I so wish I had a friend like this who could just sit down and teach me things like this. Sure it would be awesome if/WHEN I screw something up to help me, but it would be awesome just day by day to learn all this stuff.
Clear as mud. Thanks!
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Thanks, I’d watch a whole channel of this infra info talk tbh
Now that I have my LTO8 tape backup working, I can go back to screwing around with ZFS.
If you don't have LTO tape backup, don't bother effing around with ZFS unless you hate your data (or just don't care about it).
Please sir.
May I have some more???
3:00 I don't think that is how unraid works. Parity data is only stored on designated parity drives. All the other Array drives are independent with each their own independent filesystem.
Edit:
I guess he was taking about brtfs on the cache pool and not the main Array disks.
The man knows how Unraid works.
@@gnsteve8846 I also know how unraid works, I run unraid. The unraid Array does not work in the way he described. Unraid is not raid it is in the name. Array disks are independent drives with their own filesystem, all parity data is stored on parity drives.
You can ask this on the official unraid forums, they will agree with me.
Came here for the ZFS, left with acknowledging my addiction
Very Valuable information! Thnx
Oh what happened? Such a teaser reel. 🙂👍👍
I went with raid6 for my data hording...with weekly patrol reads and consistency checks.
...backed up to local jbod discs and cloud storage.
1:21 So Raid 6 is like among us
Wendell is the most based legend.
what is up with the liquid N2 container in the background?
He literally used a swiss army knife
Is that a MO-RA in the foreground with the noctuas?
Best ZFS explanation. Never trust the drives lol
We do have an addition. We do need help.
Great information thank you
i love the information you 2 bounce arounda an fun!
I'd love to see a GN blooper reel :)
Does consistency implemented in a RAID array has to do with a ballot system such as in an electoral college or as in a popular vote? The majority whose got the same data is the one who has the correct copy or the majority of controllers whose notice discrepancy are the one with the correct data?
The majority as it is viewed unlikely that multiple drives suffer the same corruption at the same moment
why is my audio left channel only? this is making the sound really weird
00:47 is that my Ex description?
Is SnapRaid a good option?
So was that the CIA version of ZFS or was that actually the KGB version of ZFS ?
Nothing more beautiful than two nerds building a computer together while joking around upon other subreddit nerds lol
YES. THIS.
(3:50) 2 years back? Please retest BTRFS
great info
I will never understand the massive ZFS love fest adding drives is a huge problem which imo makes it a no go.
Because it's a hugely superior file system. It's just not ideal for your ghetto home setup where you want to slowly add one drive at a time. It's for enterprise.
But theres no Bike :(
Got embarrassingly far before I realized I already saw this a couple weeks ago. Oh well, at least I know my ad revenue is ending up in a good place
Haha, sorry! This is one of the ones we decided to push public eventually.
@@gnsteve8846 Hey, if I'm complaining about anything it's my lack of long term memory. Anyway I'm all for publishing BTS and deleted scenes publicly, there's way too much cool stuff over there to keep it all unlisted. Cough cough for anyone not on patreon
if only I knew this back when I got that stupid idea to set up a raid5 on my chipset fakeraid ...
Herzog Fields
the amount of bad head posture in this video hurts me
Unraid doesn't give stripping
Really sounds like he's saying "be two are ef ess". If he hadn't said butter ef ess I wouldn't have know what he was talking about.
Ha ! Not quite an addiction they have. Perhaps more a drive with little money - better said, a slew of drives with little money and enough know how to get themselves in trouble.
I use x-raid
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Wendell, I love you, but you still have no clue how Unraid's native parity system works. There is zero point in choosing ZFS over unraids native if you are not using ECC memory as ZFS depends on 'knowing' the data in ram is good to prevent bitrot.
As for the actual file system, Unraid does not store any parity information on data disks. all the parity is on 1 or 2 separate parity disks. With unraid you can add a new disk of any size up to an equal size to your parity drives and you add the full capacity of that drive. no space is taken up by parity on the data drives. this has the added feature that in a worst case of more than 2 drives failing in the array, you only lose the data on failed drives, anything on drives that are still good is still there, where as with ZFS, if more than your failure threshold of drives fail you all data on the array.
Wendell is awesome, but when it comes to unraid go check out SpaceInvaderOne
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