320 TERABYTES in a normal case!! - The DIY 4k editing NAS
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Fractal's new Define 7 XL has an enormous capacity for hard drives, so it only makes sense to build and deploy a 4K editing NAS to compliment our recently built 4K editing workstation. For about $1000(not including the drives) you can build up this system and add up to 20 drives, like Segate's Iron Wolf Pro line. Using Unraid or ProxMox you'll be able to manage your data effectively.
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fractal: only put in 14
also fractal: only put in 18
linus: why can i only fit in 16
also linus: hey so we got 20 in
Amatures, go get a lian li 343b
Idk, I think they should've just said, it fits 14 in one area of the case and the other 2 were probably intentional. Linus just used space meant for other parts for more hard drives, which is pretty fortnite epic.
you dont think he would actually read the instructions and think before starting? where is the fun in that? :)
@@Helin0x99 Twice time larger case with 18 bays only? Woaw. Lian-li is a joke.
he put in Drives, where the back fans would be....or top fans
Linus "320 terabytes!"
office "yeah!"
2 days later
Office "we're out of space."
Very inefficient business if you ask me...
shouldent it’s holding 4K video or higher pretty sure Linus said they input everything into software at 8K the file size on a video of even 15 minutes would be insane so 320 terabytes isn’t really an unrealistic thought for his team to fill that space in a few months
shouldent filming in 8K every minute of video is 6GB
Tho, unused footage should be deleted or archive in a zip file to save space.
shouldent like the average GB amount for 90 minutes of 8K is 15,000 GB
Fun fact, those blue cables you used to connect drives to SAS card can be bent any way you want, you can bend them full 180 degrees and make them completely flat - they will not break. :) These are the cables we used in datacenters to connect 1U 4 drive backplanes to the raid cards, it is virtually impossible to break the cables!
I wanna see it in action
DUDES!
You just DONT challenge Linus to BREAK anything!?
@@ngockimquangho9789 except u want it broken haha XD
what if I saw them
I have literal 10-foot container of these cables broken in datacenter I work in. I have a feeling they break if you look at them wrong. I have switched to red Amphenol cables for both 8087 and 8643 and never looked back, altough there are some specific servers they have trouble fitting in since cable armor is much thicker.
Finally, enough storage for Call of Duty Modern Warfare.
something else people need to keep in mind are these pcie hba cards are designed with server chassis in mind, where they would have tons of air blowing across their passive heatsinks, so it might be worth it to get one of those expansion slot blower fans next to them
This should be upvoted way higher.
I strongly recommend re-applying the thermal paste and adding a 40x10mm Noctua fans to your pcie hba card's heatsink. This guide helped me greatly! m.imgur.com/a/Coh1Zdr
Something else you need to take into account is, How much are the drives being hammered in comparison to a server?
@@robertt9342 True, but while it won't be under constant load, say it needs to start a resilvering task, then that could hammer it pretty hard for many hours depending on the size
a 120mm fan mounted over the exp cards works well enough. In my experience the NICs get far hotter than the HBAs.
15:22 "I don't know, but it has my name on it." All of those water bottles have your name on it Linus. Peoples underwear also have your name on it.
Totally not gay.
Gee, that's gonna help me sleep tonight...
Lokiks lttstore.com??
Toy-joda just put a no homo disclaimer somewhere and it will be fine.
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That moment when he said budged nas and then puts in 9k worth of hard drives
Imagine using SSD instead ...
Significantly cheaper than a mid range Nas setup, if you want less storage just put it in your main pc
@@toast4899 im aware, because I'm building a very similar setup only with the 6 TB drives and just like 10.
he didnt said hw high the budget is ^^
@@Maisonier 64TB Nimbus Data ExaDrive NLs at 12k each
20 of them no less
9:38 I thought he was opening an ultra wide laptop 😂😂
That would be a very wide boi.
Wait so what actually was it?
@@Kian00 The front panel to the case
you're not alone.
😂😂😂😂
finally a worthy contender for my "Homework" folder.
Laughs in yottabyte
i had one of those "homework" files
i called it Z archive, it was in appdata. reason why? because it would show up at the botom and was stealthy enough for me. yes i had a few layers of sub folders. and then all da prons
you mean "Culture"?
i think you mean my "homework" 10 tb pc
When it falls asleep before you can get all the way through...
Ohhhhhh so they’re doing this video so they don’t have to send back the drives they got from seagate for their server
Yes. xD And they are stiiiiill not done :D Expect more HDDs being thrown around...
Probably need to make a few videos to justify the "sponsorship"
Celliaright 1
Linus said that was the plan in that first video.
Big brains move
_stonks_
Unraid doesn't just start at the ease of adding drives and expandability.
From (a lot) of experience, it is extremely stable and resilient. It can survive failed flash disks, (I had it run almost a week WITHOUT ISSUE with a flash disk the OS was on that wasn't even reading anymore) One day I opened up the UI to find Unraid was basically like "oh by the way, your flash disk isn't reading anymore" lol. I've had a failed motherboard, failed RAM, moved all drives to all new hardware and it's always just turn it on and it works. Failed drive? Put a new one in and hit OK. It's not just simple, it's dead simple.
Speaking of simplicity and ease of use. I could rant alone on just the Interface alone. The UI just makes sense. Just running dockers alone is a couple clicks. They're curated, documented, updated, and supported.
okay, you've just sold me on unraid. that is exactly what i wanted in nas software.
As someone who is building my setup now (migrating my Plex to a standalone NAS/server), would you recommend runnning unRAID as a VM on Proxmox or unRAID bare metal? In addition to using my new build as a NAS, it would be nice to have the ability to run Ubuntu and Windows VMs, in addition to Docker containers. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.
@@crocrash320 Unraid has native VM capabilities, Currently running my gaming VM running Win11.
Bruh, i don't have the hardware yet you made me to want to buy the unraid 😂
@crocrash320 Unraid does all of that bare metal with one caveat: you can use GPU with containers or a VM but never both at the same time. If you have a Plex container utilizing a GPU for transcoding and then try to start a VM with GPU passthrough all hell breaks loose. If it is a dedicated homelab machine then you'll be fine. If dual purpose be prepared to add and remove "--runtime=nvidia" from a lot of docker containers any time you want to switch between the two.
This is a cool video, I really like how reasonable the stuff in here is, I think the hard drives are probable the most expensive individual items. Keep it up y'all.
Fractal: 14 mounting brackets max
Linus: So anyway, I started mounting
More drives Linus MOREEEEEEEEEE
I felt the same way. LOL
400 likes ur welcome
Basically, every Linus video is about to build a PC so he can edit videos about building the pc for editing those videos about building a PC for editing on it
When you get an arts degree at uni so your only job opportunity is lecturing at a uni to arts students
@@mccarthyp64 Don't forget house painting.
And 10 million subscribers happened because it all got a bit out of hand.
Maximum Recursivity
Rubuntu tux now you know finally how humanity ends. A tech TH-camr shooting all his videos on RED 8K lossless RAW and never deleting a take or shot, and always building a server storage or server to cope with the last ingest of footage. It’s build guides all the way down. It’s also a BORG ORIGIN STORY
Linus I would really love to see a behind the scenes of your production process for prepping new video ideas, writing scripts, camera setups, production tools and pipelines (video editing, upload tools, software, how you automate your build process). There are quite a few of those videos out there, but not from technically minded individuals. Kind of a day in the life of making a video like this one, and then maybe a followup video show the software to promote your videos and costs associated with it. Your videos are great because you put a lot of thought and give your reasons for why you consciously made the choices you do.
3:58
Great placement of the gun loading sound effect.
Had a bit of a nightmare.....dreamt that Linus was reading instructions.
Will never happen.
No he just calls and asks his real IT friends who can configure networks and NAS. Linus can’t even run an all ssd network without having it slow down to 10MB/s
Mine was he does the voice over work for calm.com
My mechanical hard drive is faster
*RTFM* Recycle the fucking manual.
Linus: 320 terabytes in one case!
**looks at my pc**
My pc case: *Don't even think about it.*
Wallet: Yeah, keep dreaming
Bank: You are not eligible for loans
Wife: You spent how much for a stupid 16tb hdd??
@@nux3960 your point is?
Do it
Id really like a video deep diving into setting up a NAS or a similar storage system! This video was really helpful
insightful nuggets throughout. More storage and file management videos like this please.
"Unraid costs money" Does $129 really mean much when its connected to $9600 in drives?
rararawr619 That was my thought exactly! Why spend thousands on hardware, just to skimp at the end on relatively cheap software??
The drives are free, so yeah.
Aaron Ennis Also people shouldn’t cheap on drives
It does for people who might be building it with $500 in drives.
compared to a total build cost of $USD14,000
Linus: "budget NAS"
Also Linus: *16TB IRONWOLF PRO*
He forget to mention it's NASA budget (not NAS).
seagate sent them extra by mistake so he had to use them in a video or send them back but he should have at least lowbrow mentioned a descent alternative for people who don't wipe their ass with gold leaf lol
@@blairfleming5861 I know that happened, but they really shouldn't have claimed it was a budget version while using the top tier equipment they just have lying around
But total cost would be cheaper than those 2U rack storage tho
lol $10k right there
Fun video to see considering I just picked up a Define R6 for more or less this purpose. Doesn't hold quite as many drives as the Define 7 XL, but the use case is going to be mostly just storage and ostensibly streaming. Not sure how I'll config everything just yet as the original plan before I saw these cases was to simply turn my old components into the server but I can probably turn this into a workstation that doubles as a server to the rest of the network. Wouldn't be the best setup in a more demanding network environment but seems reasonable here.
I built a similar system to this a couple of years back. I used a CaseLabs Mercury S8 which I think I can squeeze about 24-28 3.5 inch drives into. I ended up using StableBit DrivePool instead of FreeNAS or Unraid. It has some advantages (it is just NTFS so your files are super easy to recover if something gets borked) and some disadvantages (it is not very space efficient because it writes every file to two drives) compared to them but it works great for what is mostly just media server usage.
linus: """budget"""
also linus: 20x 16tb drives
I know right.
He did make a pretty good argument about the base build itself being a good starting point and then adding more drives as you go and need to grow the storage.
@@DaemosDaen %CDN800 x 20 = $CDN16,000 = $18,000 with taxes chassis $US1000 x 1.34 exchange = 1500 with tax so $CDN19,500 or about $USD14,000
If I was really Speccing this out I would budget $CDN20,000 cause of things like the HBA Adapters which I didn't price in and I would throw in a couple of SSD's.
That is still budget. The pro grade of this setup runs about $60,000 from Dell.
A video I'd like to see is the systems and setups in some of the LTT guys homes. Jake mentioned he has a setup with his Plex server and other VMs and such. It'd be cool to see what they have set up in their systems and why.
This is the perfect time now that they're all at home.
You're in luck with the Intel Tech upgrade videos!
@@niaomipeck at the same time the tech home upgrades are kind of limited we didn’t see anything about how anthony sets up linux with arch and all that
Rewatching this after the 4/1/2020 video, i can see it all. Its all so clear to me now.
WOW! in parts installing and creating unraid and others really I need lessons in them!!!
My boss, at my previous workplace, where I edited at least 1 video a day: "Why do you need another hard drive? You have two already!"
well, he is partially right - you dont need the third one, just replace the ones you have with bigger capacity =))
@@s.i.m.c.a my boss was a she. Of course, I would have loved that. But why not keep the old ones, it's not like they're completely useless? Oh, and get this... We had a marketing/media department of 4 people, we did video, graphics, photo editing, I even did 3D, webdesign, web development (!), store management, some with backups... and, despite my numerous pleas... not even a SINGLE NAS. I got pissed, bought a Cat 6 crossover cable from my own pocket, and hooked all PCs in ring topology. We used to generate at least 15 GB a day. I kept finding extremely creative ways to store all of this crap.
good thing you left!
@@neoqueto Whaaaaaaat, you bought a cable out of your own pocket...OMG
@@mrmotofy It was really not hard to understand and yet you missed the point...
"Budget" is the only word Linus can't say enthusiastically.
🤣
In this case your BUdget better be about $USD14,000
Like I don't feel poor enough compared to him
oh, you have a cheaper way to put 320TB into a single case?
sure, $1k is quite a bit of money, but you really can't do it cheaper
@@666Tomato666 You could use 20Tb SSD's for a premium experience.
That is the most complicated way to build a oven i ever seen.
4:01 LMAF When i saw that HDD mounted on the exhaust fan place :D
I recently turned my old gaming machine into our home's NAS server (plus a printer server and calendar server, but yeah, whatever). It works great. Plenty of room to expand, no shortage of RAM or CPU power when we need it, and no worries that we'll hit the ceiling two years from now when my daughter suddenly decides that saving every moment of her life captured in HD on her phone is the most important data we own. Thanks for always being awesome!
Linus - "We can call it good at 20"
~Hard Drive mounted over fan exhaust
Oh dang I didn't notice that. Probably a bad idea
He had it running flat out, and the temperatures seemed OK.
He may as well throw 20 more in there and water cool the drives now
Linus: Always screw your drives in propperly
Also linus: Mounts drives on fan mouts
I don't know why it was not mentioned but those are special mounting brackets made by fractal meant for just that, so still properly mounted. Source: www.fractal-design.com/products/accessories/universal-multibracket-type-a-2-pack/black/
No no... it is... screw with confidence
@@LayerCakeMakes Now if only I can find a damn website that sells these and lemme tell you what, i haven't found a single one that sells this
There is more than one version of the Define 7. The regular 7 can hold 14 where the XL can do 18 with space for 2.5" drives too.
On a side note I bought one of those cases. Thanks Linus I also am building almost the same system now if I can figure out how to boot it headless. I love this case
System without the storage: $1,000.
Alright, not bad.
System with the storage: OVER $10,000.
How much does the storage cost? Ask Vegeta.
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about the storage cost?!
who is vegetea?
Linus: always screw Your HDD's in correctly!
Also Linus: mounts HDD to Fanspace.
To be fair, mounting drives in fan places is an option intended for this case, it even comes with the necessary mounting brackets
very helpfull video !! really nice explanation Linus... good job!
Thanks for using Proxmox! I was lucky tond grateful to be a reviewer on the first edition of "Mastering Proxmox" now on it's third edition and available online! keep it up Linus and team!
Linus: “I mean, it’s holding...”
5 seconds later.
**Case panel falls off**
Dies in big oof
Big œf
That's how he got his kids......
Linus dies inside
Intel dead inside
Linus drop outside
*Intel theme*
Linus: I don't want to use unRAID :lists reasons:
Linus: *uses unRAID*
The whole video seems rushed and not very well thought. I was very confused after his arguments against unraid and no further explaining.
Franz Pleurmann . I wonder if it's a result of their workflow, and maybe they need to rethink how they develop videos?
Robert T doesn’t he have to use all the hand drives for projects or he has to send them back?
RAID SHADOWLEGENDS!
I think Jake couldnt figure out how to set up proxmox for this build
This vid was super helpful. Thank you!
Got the Define 7 for my home server and am loving it. More room than I'll ever need, excellent cable management, and generally the most pleasant building experience I've ever had. It's smaller than my be quiet! Silent Base 800, it looks better (IMHO), it's easier to transport (should the need arise), the airflow is better, and it's a lot more quiet! Thinking about getting the Compact version for my main PC, though there is the problem of where to put my Blu-ray drive...
Is it still more than you would ever need?
The Define 7? Well, I already have nine drives in it. More than would've fit in my be quiet case. And there are still more to come.
I'd like to see a build video focused on audio production for a change. Most of the tech channels focus on video production, but audio has a different set of priorities.
THIS
TRUE! As an amateur sound engineer, this would be really awesome. So far the closest I've seen is from Neil Parfeit, who was actually referenced in a previous video on LTT (the rack mounted mac pro)! Videos about audio production are few and far inbetween, far as I can tell.
Well, you just need a good microphone if you want to do work in audio production, and a good program for editing and mixing that audio.
@@anakinlowground5515 If you're just doing minor home recording, sure. But there's a lot to consider for a pro audio setup and the priorities change quite a bit from gaming focused builds. GPU doesn't matter but for lots of quickly accessible storage and as much ram as you can get become extremely important for stable recording, playback, and fast access to sample libraries, or running higher track counts with real time processing plugins. There's also the consideration of add in cards for many of the higher end audio interfaces and ample USB ports for all the various license dongles that many plugins require. There's also some setup involved to get windows to operate with more stability to avoid playback hiccups and artifacts in your recorded audio files.
Ultimately, I just think it would make for an interesting video to have a PC build with a completely different set of priorities than the typical run of the mill gaming or video rendering machine.
@@SeanMRoberts That sounds a lot more interesting than I expected. Audiophiles don't get a lot of love. I recently watched the tech upgrade where the guy spent over half of his budget on a receiver and it was glorious... except for the fact that literally no one can hear what they were experiencing...
Maybe that's the problem. TH-cam audio is not that good so even if they had the expensive equipment necessary to showcase it it wouldn't quite show a difference.
...Or maybe it's just a lot more profitable to market enterprise server gear to random people instead of some super duper audio stuff. These drives cost $400 each right now and they're a hell of a lot more likely to have some random sysadmin or network engineer watching than some audio tech in hollywood. This is all pretty niche and 99+% of the people watching are never gonna buy the enterprise crap, but the audio side is quite a bit further down that rabbit hole and they aren't looking to buy a thousand of them.
bruh linus be like
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no, he is exactly it
oh nno! he got divorced from the asian girl? I hope not
@@metaldreams3595 No, he didn't.
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I just got the same case yesterday and I'm really impressed with it. You have to buy extra drive sleds, but that's alright (comes with 6, 4 of which come installed in the 2 drive cages at the bottom). I'll be doing a new NAS/server build in it w/ Proxmox. I got an I350-T2 card which I'll pass through to an OPNsense (or maybe pfSense) VM. In a business setting you wouldn't run a firewall in a VM but this is my home network and I say it's OK ;)
Woa.... i thought I was happy with 15tb in a case for my media... this is amazing... even the video of your data server with over 1pb inside... wow
Can we maybe have a NAS that has a small budget for the average consumer please Linus, like seriously is that what is called budget?
This says it’s budget and he spent £10K on hard drives 🤔
Lol I was about to say "budget" ain't what 320tb sounds like without even watching the video I know that's some bullshit
Buy 4 HDDs. Slap them into your pc. Use unraid. Problem solved.
It's not even budget anymore
Well he isn't calling it budget, I'm about sure it's supposed to be overkill.
If you want to make a budget version of this, just... use less disks.
Literally just chuck some HDDs in your machine, setup unraid and you’re done
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They put an info bubble pointing to lttstore.com instead of saying it aloud.
@@Miles300s my favourite one is one in a recent video when we see a small thing flying onn screen fast, or the infamous linus on boxers xD
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Just bought this as a universal one device solution to keep my house heated in the winter. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. It contained some tidbits that I can use whenever I get to the point of upgrading from my poor man's Intel mobo RAID 10 setup in my media server.
I have a full size case and I made a custom drive holder for my 38 terabytes of storage and I thought that was insane enough. This is just nuts.
And it'll be completely full with just the footage from this video XD
LTT: Now uploading in 16K!
Eggs dee
Long time fan thanks for all the tech tips been a long time WD user however after seeing that seagate drive might have to upgrade our own DIY server now.
I do 3D work, video editing, and run a photography business with thousands of RAW files a day sometimes. I should probably cut down on my affinity for 8K timelapses but I'll just watch this video instead.
15:18 Missed the opportunity to plug lttstore.com there Linus.
(softly)
Don't
Thanks for reminding me that HBA cards and "octopus" cables are still relatively cheap! Also you can go without a VGA card at all. Linux naturally supports ttys redirected to serial ports. You just have to reconfigure your installer's GRUB or use preseed instead. I guess every UEFI has PXE or BOOTP support nowadays. It's not for just the server market anymore.
Awesome, I need this. My Plex server case has seven 8TB drives and I was just about to build a NAS to expand it. Now I can get this case instead, hooray!
Thanks for the video - maybe you could make a new one - that focuses on the case vs. uraid. I"d love to watch the disk install, the disk temps, the fan placement, the cable management etc.
You posted this video hours after I finished moving my server into the 7 XL. Great minds think alike
Linus: "I ha e no more storage slots"
Linus' mind: "f**k it I'll use the fan mounts"
I did that too actually. Got a very small case and couldn't find a place to fit the 3rd hdd in.
"Hmm, the drives not in official holders are toasty"
suprised pikatchu face.jpg
Hard drive mounts line up with fan mounts wtf ?
"This thing is obnoxious... I mean in a good way" perfect description of most on-camera LTT employees
After seeing the orange HDMI cable for such a long time, I wonder how many things in the LMG offices are referred to as "ol' faithful". I had a few when I used to do computer repair. A power supply, and this one external hard drive. They were my go-to's.
Considering the 2GB/s (16Gb/s) bandwidth limitation between the CPU and b450 chipset, it's best to use all the PCIE lanes available from the CPU itself, meaning the first m.2 and x16 PCIE slot for connecting storage and network adapters.
Yeah mom, the 320TB folder is my homework folder
Just create a new folder in a new folder in a new folder...
T is for tiny, 320 tiny bytes, much too small to hold my hentai addiction
Thunder Life true.
@@thunderlifestudios 320 terabytes is too small
@@cajmo8635 I think we need 320 *yottabytes*
Ordered the case 28th of march and gosh i love it so much :3
One fun thing when I first started building PCs was filling all the slots. So this right here!? Yessssss!
One thing in the price breakdown of this to consider. The consumer version of the case only comes with 6 drive brackets for 3.5inch drives. You need to buy any additional ones after that.
Me: Sends in drive for recovery service.
Seagate: Hey man, your drives are all full of pirated movies.
"easier than ripping my physical copy, bro"
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"It can accommodate up to eight..."
"yeah..."
"TEEN. hard drives."
i made a system like this, i ran out of screws so i made sure that i shoved enough hard drives and cables in that the couldnt move. It worked perfectly to get around mounting them
3:00 I know that feel. My boot SSD is currently zip tied to my chassis
mine is just jammed into wherever I can put it. XD
@@MichaelSanAngelo like one of the optical bays? :)
Linus: Gets way to many hard drives sent over by Seagate.
Also Linus: I don't wanna send those back so lets use em all!
the motherboard is the same one i used in my first build aka a build i built for my friend, the strix b450-f. great motherboard and according to him he doesnt have any problem s with it
I knew I could count on you guys... Spent 3 hours looking into what I should build and didn't get any closer to figuring it out until I finally went, "wait, let's see if linus has made a video on thi..ooohh my God there it is...." 😂
"Unraid, Freenas, Proxmox, or whatever else"
whatever else is called *OpenMediaVault* dammit!
Use your NAS at LTX 2020 for LAN to have popular games already stored local.
Only downside its the lack of SSD caching using something like bcache. You can do it by hand but you need cli... and not all the people want to handle with that!
@@tuttocrafting well you got a linux kernel running either way so if i had to choose between fiddling a little bit vs relying on quirky USB-stick-centered licensing, imma fiddle :D
Been using omv for 5 years now ? Wanted it for storage but plex to for al my media. First on a old dell desktop for 3 years. Never got problems with it. Then a new 2018 build with 8 2 tb drives. That one did have a lot of software/hardware problems. My fault. After a reboot it would just close the system down and you could not get on it anymore. After a lot of troubel i did finaly find the problem. TIME, jupp that did couse so much troubel. It took the bios/motherboard time as the corect one. But when booting omv saw the online time diverent so what did it do ? Close everyting down and do nothing anymore. Solved that, never got problem with it anymore.
@starshipeleven you can use OMV on top of Proxmox anyway :D
1:22 - I actually want this case so im happy to see more videos on it.
I think you can get R6 much cheaper, and get almost same quality/options as new one.
@@ApxuBbI But this is the XL version. R6 doesn't have XL and the previous XL is very old now.
That being said. The side panel attachment withotu screws is kinda stupid.
@@Guuggel I think there is an option for securing the side panel with screws if you want to.
@@Guuggel Ahh, didn't saw that.
The case is so flexible, you can do almost anything with it. I build threadripper workstation from it and it looks completely different.
I built a UNRAID NAS / home media server in a Define R5 because at the time it was a readily accessible case that could hold a lot of 3.5 & 2.5 drives. I used a Supermicro board because it has dedicated IPMI and dual Gigabit network interfaces with a LSI SAS HBA to run all my drives. I run 4 docker containers for a music DLNA server, UniFi Controller, MariaDB & Splunk. Plus 2 VM's for PiHole and TACACS. It's a great system and the Define 7 XL can hold even more drives so it could me a upgrade path for me when I start running out of space.
Aw man, now the bigfoot hunters are going to have enough space to store their blurry images of me
Well, at least someone is happy with all them McDonald's restaurants every two feet, you can steal shitty WiFi from more places.
That really sucks, solidarity!
Does that put Linus on the FBI watchlist?
Finally I can download every single Minecraft mod
Not even close. Maybe a petabyte might be enough
I love how linus is taking every possible opportunity to use the IronWolfs
Just built my new box with this case as the base for it, only got 4 hard drives, and two ssd's on mboard, eventually it will have a nas arrary on it with like 8x12TB drives for the array.
:)
3:15
Me who kept my SSD completely loose inside my case: **looks away**
and i am the one who kept unscrewed drives togather after watching this is remember week ago my drive was missbehaving 🙂
ssds are solid state. They're resiliant to vibrations by default.
When you decide that you WOULD download a car...
I'd like to see you guys to combine the two system (the 4k editing system and this) to become one so that there's only 1 instead of 2
Great built! Can you please provide updated part list, since some item are no longer available online and wanted to see you can provide specs for installing plex on it. Thanks.
Great video, a few observations. 20 drives while nice you are killing airflow. I use the newer Meshify 2 XL and I run 6 SSDs and 12 HDDs so I don’t interfere with airflow and thus has fans directly blowing over all the HDDs. LSI cards are great and if you shop around on eBay you find 9260-16i at great prices. Another big thing when using LSI cards is they were designed for servers with good airflow. I run 2 92mm fans on a fan bracket blowing directly on the LSI cars or the heat will kill them prematurely. My oldest servers were running 7x24x365 for 5 years until I just upgraded everything to what I mentioned before. Also run Windows server and the native LSI software. The LSI software will email you with failures, warnings, etc. and you can schedule disk patrol and consistency checks to make sure the disks are healthy. I run Raid 6 and 4 x 120mm fans up front, 4x 120mm along top and the. 1 x 140 in back. I use a Ryzen 9 3900X 128GB of RAM and I run HyperV with about a dozen VMs. The larger your hard drive the longer a failed drive takes to rebuild when failed. With Raid 6 I can take 2 drive failures before it is an issue. I have 1 drive assigned as a hot spare so if a drive fails the rebuild starts immediately. Because of the Meshify and all my fans I can run fans at ~800 rpm and the drives run about 31C nice and cool.
Thanks for showing the quality of the click system on fractal 7 XL. I was looking forward to this case since it can house 14 HDD's + 5.25 bay ODD and I have wondered how tightly the rear side panel fits. you showed me that it doesnt good. And that was not even with 2 GPU's so I'm going remove myself from the though of buying the fractal one.
Dude has 20 SATA data and power cables, and a bunch of adapters, this isn't normal usage. Had he spent more time (which would be wasted for a video) cable managing, it would have worked well. I do agree with Linus though, it should have an optional lock of some sort.
I am not able to find the type B disk trays, i need only 10 drives, but without spare disk trays i would have to mount them like Linus :)
@@Ravenousjoe I know 20 hdd's is not normal useage,but when fractal advertises for 18 drives in the case you would think they accounted for all the cables in the rear. The click system seems really nice tho,but if the rear panel suddenly pops out from the strain of excessive cables than the case is not as good as I thought.
I wouldnt really need that many drives tho,since I dont not want to connect any HDD to HBAs,but with 1 ODD and I have like 14 hdd's which is more than enough,my XL R2 only have like 8 or 9 hdd bays in total.
6:35 Heeeey Timing dude just received my 850 corsair psu XD
What a time to be watching this rolf
Need more videos like these!
6:44 people who understand electricity: how many Amps can hold that cable and that 12v output?
Linus: yes
I love Proxmox and prefer it over XCP-ng or oVirt when it comes to virtualization and containerization.
But we don't have to pretend that it's a NAS replacement.
FreeNAS(TrueNAS), Unraid, and OpenMediaVault have tradeoffs between them. But I'd much sooner push someone towards any of them for something like this, before bringing up Proxmox.
But you could run openmediavault as a vm if you just run ext4 or lvm raid right? That would only suck for btrfs or zfs. If you can pass through the complete disk controller even this could be just fine
And technically you could use OpenMediaVault with underlying Proxmox kernel and ZFS too so... eh.
I think the entire "it's not a NAS" thing is a bit overblown. Any *nix OS is a NAS, if you configure it appropriately.
I'd love to see a few more build videos in this vein.
So, the Define 7 is the one with 14 drives max, the Define 7XL can hold 18. It also has 2 additional 5.25 bays, and there are adapters for those to turn them into 3 3.5" bays, so a max of 21 before you start using Linus' fun tasks.
for a second, i thought the title said 320 *petabytes*
and i wasn't surprised
My bank account just looked at me, and said..."Not gonna happen, bruh..."
Did you need 320TB of space?
I tried various configurations in regards to having a server tower with internal storage. The problem was that the drives would randomly disconnect, causing Windows to freeze and I lose data. The only thing that worked for me that was a stable enough solution was utilizing external USB storage units that can fit up to 8 hard drives. I just made sure they were USB 3 to utilize the speed capabilities.
After buying an R5 when they came out, it's unlikely that I'll ever buy another brand of case.
Silent and after years of being on the floor of my music room, next to a pair of shoes, the inside of the case was soo clean. Not even a layer of thin dust inside!