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*Moments before the fight begins* Kiritsugu (Zero): If I survive, Im killing whoever brought Illya here. Shirou (UBW, most likely): Not only do I have to fight a Ruby empowered Illya, I also have to deal with my dad at his prime? Illya (Kaleid): Why do I have to fight my family? Bazett (HA): Just like the simulations.
Has a double meaning if she ever had a trip like that during Hollow Ataraxia. Then again, considering she fought Saber and five other servants during HA and won should be enough to tell you that.
@@joshcooper467 Bazett literally replayed the 5th/3rd HGW a countless amount of times and was always 1 step (servant) short of winning it in just 4 days before being forced back to the start of it due to the plot. She is quite literally a beast in combat and it has been shown in Kaleid that she can easily fold Illya in her magical girl form in half if she wants to.
@@QruisS yeah I saw that... Not to mention apart from her NO U phantasm she's an Enforcer with the ability to place sealing designation on targets and is a skilled fighter. Plus Tsiah IV video on Bazett opened my eyes. She crazy!
Is fair to recall that Nasu himself stated that, had it not been for Kirei intervention, Bassette would have wiped the competition in time record. No wonder she also stands on top here as well.
The amount of stuff Ristuka survive I wouldn't be surprised if we got some weird Twist by the end of the game that he build up enough to pain tolerance to become immortal XD
I loved the video! Shirou had the worst luck of the draw cause he's probably one of the weaker participants among the ones that can actually fight until pulling out his trump card
If you remove Bazett's Fragarach from the equation, Shirou easily could have won just by deploying UBW and making swords rain from the sky at mach speed for a minute or two, though I doubt this Shirou would have the mindset to be so merciless. (Mind of Steel Shirou maybe?)
@@QruisS how about heaven feel true end. Picture it like this, shirou just died saving someone he loves and now he is suddenly in this white room then he saw an entity in the center of the room. The entity offered a deal for him, he needs to fight in a battle royal and if he win the entity will grant him a wish. Seeing a way to reunite with sakura shirou easily accept the entity deal. Now we have shirou that is desperate and will do the most heinous thing just so he can return to sakura and he is also technically a demi servant so a big bonus there
@@QruisSi am also going to at that he can use archer arm more freely here or else he will he will lose his mind (or whatever left of it anyway) die in a couple of minutes
Ngl Illya (Prisma Verse) vs Manaka actually is a way more creative and exciting fight In my head then expected! Thank you for this cool Battle Royale Idea!! 🙏
@@TsiahIVwhat if you use Illya versión that fought Gil and managed to overpover EA? Would the result be different? Like, there is a LOT of ifs, like servant cards, another magic stick(the one Miyu usually uses, don't remember rhe name), etc.
You know after I played fate samurai remnant. Iori is pretty broken. Like if you removed magic and just skills and martial arts. He pretty much own everyone. But after all he's was born in the wrong yr.
I just know the comments are going be going crazy. Saying this and that. I will say one thing. Wow you made Shirou fight Bazett right off the bat!? I feel you might have set my boy up. Cause…yikes there was no way he was gonna make it out of that one.
I think we shouldn't have included fujimaru in this fight because fujimaru whole power involve summoning servents so if he summons a strong servent from the Start like Arjuna alter or any strong servent he win
I was also super psyched to see the viability of all of the Masters because this is PEAK. You don't miss Tsiah, this was CRAZY to see how you analyzed all of this.
Funny you mentioned the Knights vs Argonauts video because at that time with my knowledge of Fate I really thought it would be a cinch for the Knights but I was immensely and pleasantly surprised by the Argonauts winning because I was unaware of their strength and I could see it happening if under the most High-Very High Diff because the Achilles Shield is just silly.
@@SpicyChedderJack Again this was BEFORE I did definitive research on my own. Jason may be an asshole, but he knows how to team build. And yeah Herc is that guy, if only he could get a definitive dub tho.
I couldn't see anyone except bazet winning in this case, Shiro had to be done dirty being placed with bazet in round 1. Cool idea for a video though, cool to see the other protags not flat out get stomped.
It's a funny sight because just imagine Illya during 90% of this fight just running around scared as hell with explosions everywhere she ends up. I woulda liked to see Illya just surviving after everyone killed each other being the outcome of this hypothetical, but Prisma Bazett is a W end too
"The Emiya Theme playing" I don't know why, but that's really funny to me In another matter, a question from someone who doesn't completely understand Fate What does fragarach do actually? And how does it affect Reality Marbles?
Thanks for this, Ill make a video. Its a counter. A reversal that activates after a trump card. But fragarach gets priority. Think Gae Bolgs Causality reversal
That was a quite surprising ending, There was a very high chance of the second place winning, for the winner to use the resources gained in the battlefield to win was something i completely didn't think about.
@@TsiahIV to be fair I've only seen the stay night routes, zero, and apocrypha. All the extra people I only know from your videos. Btw I love your vids homie. Hope you're well.
He did and lost sadly. I was pretty sure he'd completely win with all the servants he can summon. Couldve just summoned like achilles and had him blitz everyone.
@@TsiahIVTsiah I have two questions if you don't mind: 1. Are shadow servants just slightly weaker then their normal selves or the difference in power is pretty big? 2. Do shadow servants consume mana like normal servants would? Maybe a little less?
@@capetel368 shadow servants are weaker than normal selves in pretty big ways.The higher-tier of shadow servants are presented in Kaleid Prism , and it is still with 1 to 2 rank drops in power. God Hand , from Heracles , for example , can only protect him or , in an Install , against NPs that are C+ Rank. And the manga shows that it is costly to mantain the shadow servants and that is apart from the NPs they use. The advantage is still that Ritsuka basically uses multiples from the get go and quickly uses their NPs to finish the enemy off.
Hm I’m not really sure Ritsuka goes out that early, if at all given the right circumstances. Lb6 Ritsuka can fight on par with Barghest in a 1 on 1. Who, even at night, is like as strong as Camelot Gawain per statement. Obviously circumstances and matchups matter greatly, but 4 shadow servants at once is very good for offense and defense. In the video it seemed like the prior summon he made would just disappear after casting.
And if is lostbelt 7 ritsuka is worst because he hold a fight against ort during 20 hours and he beat daybit and tezcatlipoca alone without outside help and in lb5 kirschtaria says himself that Ritsuka was stronger than him so he was clearly the stongest outside of manaka
@@Rayden.345 krish’s statement is more of “as a master” a symbol that talent isn’t the only thing that matters in a mage. This is the same reason Kadoc was chosen for team A. Heart and will is a very common theme brought up inside fgo, and I believe that’s was krish said that. I’m not caught up on lb7, but if they can fight god level threats alone then it’s clear who should’ve been the winner
@@ladaal8867 yes i know and it's even more impressive since it was said that if he is that strong is because he is only fighting as a master while using shadow servants and without his master privilege he can't use this power Edit: i think that why wodime said another "candidate" instead of a magus
@@TsiahIV eh, I like to think I know a bit. Honestly getting manaka as his opponent was most certainly a death sentence, though I was surprised he lost against bazett. I know she's good but I guess I thought Lori was better. I guess I've just playing samurai remnant for to long. Anyways great video, love the content!
To be fair, without his Mystic Codes he has nothing going for him, magecraft wise. It's stated multiple times in the game. Honestly, I don't like his character so his surviving that long is "meh" for me, but I trust the source and let it slide. I really wish Kiritsugu had develpoed his Magecraft more, it'be as broken as hell, even with a partial Magic Crest.
@@youss5956 when was it stated? I only recall that it just randomly came up with no explanation whether it was chaldea, mash's shield, or that briefcase that mash brings around, or da vinci's mystic code. If it was his ability, they would have been using it in the singularites.
NAAAAHHHH you know for it to be lore accurate sieg with his bullshit plot armour would pull off some godlike power to wipe out everything including tsiah
You should do this again with antagonist or with the crypters. Thought Shiki thono would be here too and still can't believe bazet won. what if shiki was there and also shirou had the archer class card ?
@@TsiahIVto be fair, you could've titled it "Fate" instead of "Type-Moon" to guarantee more clicks but had other type moon protagonists there (though I am not sure who is beating Aoko's true magic). Not saying that you should've done that but it wasn't out of the realm of possibility.
As usual, this video slaps. Bazett is the GOAT as usual, but I was surprised to see Ritsuka carry so long, especially against mavericks like Iori and Shirou.
I feel like Iori should do better than most. Other than Prisma Illya. Lmao, what i get for posting before i watch. 2nd edit: damn, ritsuka did not deserve to go out like that.
All odds are against ma boi Shirou...Fck! I admit that Shirou's the only protag I love in the whole fate franchise, but the others have too much advantage over him.
Good video, Im just wondering wouldn't Shirou be able realise that Bazett has Fragarach due to be able to "auto analyze" any wepon in his vicinity? this means he would know that he can't show UBW against her? or can't he see from within the thing she uses to hold it? but wouldn't he know that the thing she uses to hold it is holding Fragarach as that is its "purpose"? still great vid
I wanna see this but with Tandem with their Main Servants also they have to summon the servant at the start not automatically summon at round 1 it'll be fun being the first one either the Master rushing for the kill while others rush to summon servants (only 1 without any variants servant so if there's already an Artoria no Artoria alter or Castoria) ei Ritsuka with Mash(kinda a bad match up but it's Mash it'll be alot more disappointing without Mash) Hakuno with Umu Sieg with Jeane(not his servant but if someone gonna answer Sieg's summon it's be her Siegfried Fran or Kriemhild I'm leaning towards Jeane more) I'm not familiar with the other Fates to say whos the servants for other protag but this 2 will be the interesting one Shirou and Kiritsugu who ever manage to summon first will get OG Saber but I see it as Shirou being ambush at the start so he will not be able to summon so Kiritsugu will have Saber BUT who will Shirou summon?(don't know where I read it but someone said that Nasu said if shirou didn't have any Catalyst he would have summon Curse Arm BUT) HE DOES have a catalyst a certain Red Gem that was used to heal him he still has it till adulthood and even during his time as a servant so he DOES HAVE a catalyst to summon Guardian spirit EMIYA (yeah I wanna see a shirouXshirou tandem and also want to see Shirou{and Shirou} forcing to fight against Artoria) edit: also having EMIYA in this will continue Cu Chulain's curse(Bazett will 100% summon Cu) of having "That Red Archer goes wherever he goes"
Throughout all this, why didn't Ritsuka just summon Gilgamesh or at least summon Mash or Castoria for the crazy defence? If he summoned Shadow Servanta such as Gilgamesh instead of Edmond, he could counter Zombie-Shirou's NP spam and have access to Clairvoyance. That and Ritsuka knows Shirou looks like a CERTAIN Saber/Alter Ego he last saw in Castoria's Lostbelt. And he knows Shirou fights exactly like the Heroic Spirit he has already summoned before, EMIYA and EMIYA Alter.
@@ikram1572 Sorry, I meant the Chaldea Shadow Servants like the ones he summoned during the battles he had in this vid. He clearly didn't use the briefcase or Mash's shield either just to summon Shadows. In the Shimousa main storyline Ristuka is completely isolated from Chaldea but uses Chaldea Shadow Servants over many battles to survive. The rogue Servants he encounters, such as Lancer Houzouin Inshun, comments on how convenient it is that he can use those Combat Summons where he summons Shadow Servants in battle. Otherwise, Ritsuka would have died with weaker human Musashi that was slowly getting stronger WITHOUT his Shadow Servants. And more importantly... Ritsuka NEVER used Mash's Shield and the briefcase in Shimousa for the Shadows he summoned (our own Servants we were forced o use in other words). Mash's Shield + Briefcase summoning only happened AFTER Shimousa and all of part 1.5 when Chaldea was completely infiltrated and destroyed from the inside-out. The briefcase only shows up in the part 2 prologue and afterwards. Not before. Also Ritsuka can summon without Mash and the briefcase in many other main story and event scenarios
@@TheStuffEnjoyer oh no, he can summon shadow servants all by himself. The black shadowy ones. But the actual servants needs Mash's shield. One scene I remember was LB 6 where Mash was fighting demonic dog Barghest and Lancelot and Gawain was summoned by her shield.
@@GuardianTempest Fair point about Mash. However, lorewise, our own Servants that we use in these brief combat scenarios are essentially shadow variants of them during battle. The main story mentions them several times, such as in Shimousa when Kotarou finds out that we were already summoning these Shadow Servants when we were completely cut off from Chaldea. Musashi is even curious about them in the same scene. For example the part where Musashi says: Musashi: So then, what makes him [Normal Fuuma] different from the ones [Shadow Servants] you normally summon? Wait. Huh? But we know up to this point we have been able to summon a maximum of 5 Shadow Servants plus Forced Support Musashi in the main story battles of Shimousa. But this is without Chaldea. Is Seraph CCC main interlude we also summon Shadow Servants and they are also mentioned there as well. In LB 1.5 Shadow Servants are menrioned again. In Morgan's Lostbelt they're used again such as when we summon Lancelot and Gawain. Despite how taxing its mentioned in the story even with Chaldea support, we always get cut off from Chaldea and summon Shadow Servants just fine. The only time we couldn't cannonically summon any Servant and Shadow Servant was during the Lostbelt prologue when we had only Mash, Sherlck and Da Vinci as our normal Servant or and no Shadow Servants. This was followed by getting the briefcase and us being able to summon and maintain both types of Servants again.
Do we account for thia for flat Also wasn’t it stated that bazett actually would beat Rin and shirou even if shirou was at operating himself to the max
This was awesome! Great work, fellow Master. This is a complicated question, but a fun one. I've been playing Samurai/remnant and have really enjoying the system of the waxing moon ritual. So I was wondering, if the original Holy Grail wars followed the same format, which Servants would be summoned? I think, easiest to solve would be 5th as you could just add majority of the cast from Stay/Night & Prototype. But what is your opinion?
The moment Manaka summon 666 is pretty much her own death IF she have Ruby in her hand... Why? Remember WHO created Ruby. Its the great marsher... He create them to destroy enemy of humanity. So of course Ruby will instantly switch side to Brazet. If anything knowing Ruby she would do it with literally anyone. The most hilarious scenario would be if THAT person wa Emiya Kirisutgu... That will be cursed lol
Maybe cause this is supposed to be an actual war ? Obviously this is a death battle no one is allowed to team up they are only allowed to control each other somehow
I don't know much about him since I'm a lazy ass who don't read but I hope we can get Don't Sleep on Zelretch or Kirschtaria (I don't play FGO but I love your video about him).
My initial thought was if you do servants which ones does everyone get? Cause you can't give them all their servant otherwise it'd just be everyone vs ritsuka and his army
You wouldn't found it inconcevable if you knew what ritsuka can accomplish currently by his own because currently he is stonger than many grand servants
@@TsiahIV she’s in fate carnival phantasm and is very much cannon as one of the only weirdest of true magic and she is a protagonist so I feel like it wasn’t a stretch
Awesome video tsiah. But i would have loved if u do a video with the servants. Cause there are so many cool fights that can happen from that. Also if u bring in servants, I think gudao would have won if u bought in servants. Cause if gudao have either draco, arc, or kuku. Then he would probably win. But if he have mash I think he would stop at monica or artoria. But good video.
Great vid. Can you do a triple death match of Bazdilot cordelion vs kitei kotomine vs soirchirou(buffed but caster will not be a part of the death match)
not really. Iori is skilled as a martial artist , so is Bazett , with the added bonus that she is also a fully-realized magus. While Manaka is a monster in magecraft. So , sure , Iori is a high-tier protagonist , but he is not "killing everyone". It's no demerit , Bazett and Manaka are two monstruous women and he more-or-less been able to keep up with just martial arts.
@phantasosxgames8488 I guess if I had to defend Iori, I would say that if he can take on Li Shuwen and Cu Culain, Bazett wouldn't be much of a stretch, combat and rune wise. Ioris Reverse Swallow would be too fast for Fragarach. As for Manaka, the stuff that made her overpowered was from when she was bonded to the Beast. If it was her on her own, she's not that powerful. Still powerful for a normal human but nothing Iori can't handle. If she is linked to the Beast, then yeah, it would be a difficult fight. Unless Iori can speed blitz her, she's going to dominate. I don't think she actually knows how to possess people on her own, though.
@@mongooseunleashed Iori faced Li and Cu , while having Yamato Takeru on his side. By all means , his fight against Musashi is the only one that he was legit alone against a Servant. Let alone that both Li and Cu were Rogue Servants , explicitly stated to be weaker than normally. With that in mind , it's no different to when Bazett defeated a Shadow Servant Cu Culainn and EMIYA in Kaleid Prism , with the exception she did alone , rather than the aid of a full-on contracted Servant on her side.
@phantasosxgames8488 Several flaws with your argument. So you're saying Iori can beat a BERSERKER Musashi but not a Rogue Servant? Also comparing a Rogue Cu to a shadow servant is kinda unfair. Rogue Cu still has all of his abilities. I'm not considering Yamato as a factor because Iori becomes on par with and is fighting equally alongside them. It would be different if I was saying Ritsuka or Hakuno were fighting with their servant. Iori is taking the same hits and dodging the same attacks.
*Moments before the fight begins*
Kiritsugu (Zero): If I survive, Im killing whoever brought Illya here.
Shirou (UBW, most likely): Not only do I have to fight a Ruby empowered Illya, I also have to deal with my dad at his prime?
Illya (Kaleid): Why do I have to fight my family?
Bazett (HA): Just like the simulations.
Has a double meaning if she ever had a trip like that during Hollow Ataraxia. Then again, considering she fought Saber and five other servants during HA and won should be enough to tell you that.
Iori: If this is what being born in the wrong age got me, was it really THAT wrong?
@@joshcooper467 Bazett literally replayed the 5th/3rd HGW a countless amount of times and was always 1 step (servant) short of winning it in just 4 days before being forced back to the start of it due to the plot. She is quite literally a beast in combat and it has been shown in Kaleid that she can easily fold Illya in her magical girl form in half if she wants to.
@@QruisS yeah I saw that... Not to mention apart from her NO U phantasm she's an Enforcer with the ability to place sealing designation on targets and is a skilled fighter. Plus Tsiah IV video on Bazett opened my eyes. She crazy!
Is fair to recall that Nasu himself stated that, had it not been for Kirei intervention, Bassette would have wiped the competition in time record.
No wonder she also stands on top here as well.
@@cameraredeye3115 yea the gampIan is just cu forces them to use np then fragarah one shots simpIe as that or just have cu spam his np 7 times
Bazett stopping the protagonist's theme song mid-track is some Sousuke Aizen levels of "damn~".
I'm not going to lie. I did not expect the fgo guy to survive that long.
Shadow servants are no Joke Ritsuka servants are op as hell.
@@christiansmith1895Imagine he summons Karna or Gilgamesh.
@@wortexpaladin2527 imagine if he summoned God Arjuna or lostbelt Morgan
I guess I forgot he could use shadow servants I honestly thought he was going to this Royal as a normal dude
The amount of stuff Ristuka survive I wouldn't be surprised if we got some weird Twist by the end of the game that he build up enough to pain tolerance to become immortal XD
I loved the video!
Shirou had the worst luck of the draw cause he's probably one of the weaker participants among the ones that can actually fight until pulling out his trump card
If you remove Bazett's Fragarach from the equation, Shirou easily could have won just by deploying UBW and making swords rain from the sky at mach speed for a minute or two, though I doubt this Shirou would have the mindset to be so merciless. (Mind of Steel Shirou maybe?)
@@QruisS how about heaven feel true end. Picture it like this, shirou just died saving someone he loves and now he is suddenly in this white room then he saw an entity in the center of the room. The entity offered a deal for him, he needs to fight in a battle royal and if he win the entity will grant him a wish. Seeing a way to reunite with sakura shirou easily accept the entity deal.
Now we have shirou that is desperate and will do the most heinous thing just so he can return to sakura and he is also technically a demi servant so a big bonus there
@@QruisSi am also going to at that he can use archer arm more freely here or else he will he will lose his mind (or whatever left of it anyway) die in a couple of minutes
@@andikaaherdiyanto917you have cooked right here
Ngl Illya (Prisma Verse) vs Manaka actually is a way more creative and exciting fight In my head then expected! Thank you for this cool Battle Royale Idea!! 🙏
theres alot you can do with both. especially if you give illya the cards. mine just mapped out this way
@@TsiahIVwhat if you use Illya versión that fought Gil and managed to overpover EA? Would the result be different? Like, there is a LOT of ifs, like servant cards, another magic stick(the one Miyu usually uses, don't remember rhe name), etc.
@@vampiranya9939 Power isnt everything G nor was that illyas problem here
Manaka possessing Iori and Bazett using Ruby's power are definitely twists I wasn't expecting. Nice job!
You know after I played fate samurai remnant. Iori is pretty broken. Like if you removed magic and just skills and martial arts. He pretty much own everyone. But after all he's was born in the wrong yr.
I just know the comments are going be going crazy. Saying this and that. I will say one thing. Wow you made Shirou fight Bazett right off the bat!? I feel you might have set my boy up. Cause…yikes there was no way he was gonna make it out of that one.
pure coincidence. We were joking around in the cord how you guys were gonna complain about the Emiyas. And we were spot on
“You can hear the Emiya theme begin to play in the background” I LOVED THIS
I think we shouldn't have included fujimaru in this fight because fujimaru whole power involve summoning servents so if he summons a strong servent from the Start like Arjuna alter or any strong servent he win
No, he will die from abusing mana consumption. You got to be young to even think like this
I was also super psyched to see the viability of all of the Masters because this is PEAK. You don't miss Tsiah, this was CRAZY to see how you analyzed all of this.
Funny you mentioned the Knights vs Argonauts video because at that time with my knowledge of Fate I really thought it would be a cinch for the Knights but I was immensely and pleasantly surprised by the Argonauts winning because I was unaware of their strength and I could see it happening if under the most High-Very High Diff because the Achilles Shield is just silly.
Never vote against Heracles, he is the strongest
@@SpicyChedderJack Again this was BEFORE I did definitive research on my own. Jason may be an asshole, but he knows how to team build. And yeah Herc is that guy, if only he could get a definitive dub tho.
I mean it would've been if all the Knights get to use their NP but sadly some could not use their NP like Percival.
I couldn't see anyone except bazet winning in this case, Shiro had to be done dirty being placed with bazet in round 1. Cool idea for a video though, cool to see the other protags not flat out get stomped.
shirou got stomped fair and square thats just coping but thanks
It's a funny sight because just imagine Illya during 90% of this fight just running around scared as hell with explosions everywhere she ends up. I woulda liked to see Illya just surviving after everyone killed each other being the outcome of this hypothetical, but Prisma Bazett is a W end too
People forget all the carnage that illyas been through in Prisma. She's not some scared little girl anymore, just low on resources
"The Emiya Theme playing"
I don't know why, but that's really funny to me
In another matter, a question from someone who doesn't completely understand Fate
What does fragarach do actually? And how does it affect Reality Marbles?
Thanks for this, Ill make a video. Its a counter. A reversal that activates after a trump card. But fragarach gets priority. Think Gae Bolgs Causality reversal
I heard emiya running into bazette and immediately got depressed😂
This got me laughing hard as hell. You clearly knew he was dead as fuck
my man shirou died during shirou day 🥹🥹
something to remember
I love this man’s voice. Who new loving the fate apocrypha music so much would let me see so many good creators
That was a quite surprising ending, There was a very high chance of the second place winning, for the winner to use the resources gained in the battlefield to win was something i completely didn't think about.
8:35 insert Highshcool of the Dead scene of the bullet flying through boobs.
i know the EXACT scene you're talking about. classic
Illya's fate sad as always, lol
I would argue Ritsuka's was the least deserved in terms of brutality.
*me as Ritsuka* am just going to sit and watch
King Hassan: Ahhh…This feels familiar.
Poor shirou. He didn't deserve that lol. He started off against the most dangerous person there lol. Archer emiya woulda been like nope im out
manaka is the most dangerous, by far. He was honestly on the fortunate side
@@TsiahIV to be fair I've only seen the stay night routes, zero, and apocrypha. All the extra people I only know from your videos. Btw I love your vids homie. Hope you're well.
I'm assuming Ritsuka doesn't get his shadow servant summoning ability?
Cause if he does, he rolls *everyone* lol.
He did and lost sadly. I was pretty sure he'd completely win with all the servants he can summon. Couldve just summoned like achilles and had him blitz everyone.
@blaneonthemoon2 that would never realistically happen. Plus Strong servants ≠ instant win
@@TsiahIVTsiah I have two questions if you don't mind:
1. Are shadow servants just slightly weaker then their normal selves or the difference in power is pretty big?
2. Do shadow servants consume mana like normal servants would? Maybe a little less?
@@capetel368 shadow servants are weaker than normal selves in pretty big ways.The higher-tier of shadow servants are presented in Kaleid Prism , and it is still with 1 to 2 rank drops in power.
God Hand , from Heracles , for example , can only protect him or , in an Install , against NPs that are C+ Rank.
And the manga shows that it is costly to mantain the shadow servants and that is apart from the NPs they use. The advantage is still that Ritsuka basically uses multiples from the get go and quickly uses their NPs to finish the enemy off.
Hm I’m not really sure Ritsuka goes out that early, if at all given the right circumstances. Lb6 Ritsuka can fight on par with Barghest in a 1 on 1. Who, even at night, is like as strong as Camelot Gawain per statement. Obviously circumstances and matchups matter greatly, but 4 shadow servants at once is very good for offense and defense. In the video it seemed like the prior summon he made would just disappear after casting.
And if is lostbelt 7 ritsuka is worst because he hold a fight against ort during 20 hours and he beat daybit and tezcatlipoca alone without outside help and in lb5 kirschtaria says himself that Ritsuka was stronger than him so he was clearly the stongest outside of manaka
@@Rayden.345 krish’s statement is more of “as a master” a symbol that talent isn’t the only thing that matters in a mage. This is the same reason Kadoc was chosen for team A. Heart and will is a very common theme brought up inside fgo, and I believe that’s was krish said that. I’m not caught up on lb7, but if they can fight god level threats alone then it’s clear who should’ve been the winner
@@ladaal8867 yes i know and it's even more impressive since it was said that if he is that strong is because he is only fighting as a master while using shadow servants and without his master privilege he can't use this power
Edit: i think that why wodime said another "candidate" instead of a magus
"you can hear the Emiya theme playing in the background" this made me fucking lose it lmao
I honestly thought Lori would do better than he did. Didn't believe he would win, but my man got done dirty :(
Iori is extremely good imo but far from the best. You probably dont know much about the other masters
@@TsiahIV eh, I like to think I know a bit. Honestly getting manaka as his opponent was most certainly a death sentence, though I was surprised he lost against bazett. I know she's good but I guess I thought Lori was better. I guess I've just playing samurai remnant for to long. Anyways great video, love the content!
Waver died from overwork, that's why his not here.
Ngl that was hella fun picturing each bout play out. I'd love to see someone create an animation based on this video
I honestly don't know much about Ritsuka but the fact he can use shadow summon and is capable of taking on Kiritsugo is pretty mind blowing for me
To be fair, without his Mystic Codes he has nothing going for him, magecraft wise. It's stated multiple times in the game.
Honestly, I don't like his character so his surviving that long is "meh" for me, but I trust the source and let it slide.
I really wish Kiritsugu had develpoed his Magecraft more, it'be as broken as hell, even with a partial Magic Crest.
Being able to slow down ORT only using shadow servants (which gets absorbed by it everytime they get defeated) and occasionally Mash is impressive.
Da vinci mystic codes are crazy. Without it he would just be a normal human and would die in the first 5 seconds.
@@JayWalkZi think it was stated many time that shadow servant is his own ability
@@youss5956 when was it stated? I only recall that it just randomly came up with no explanation whether it was chaldea, mash's shield, or that briefcase that mash brings around, or da vinci's mystic code. If it was his ability, they would have been using it in the singularites.
Bazett punching a hole through the hero of justice at the beginning was hilarious
Seriously shirou vs bazet? at the very start? now that is just unfair for my boy
Someone was gonna have to draw that card unfortunately 😂😭😭😭
NAAAAHHHH you know for it to be lore accurate sieg with his bullshit plot armour would pull off some godlike power to wipe out everything including tsiah
You should do this again with antagonist or with the crypters. Thought Shiki thono would be here too and still can't believe bazet won. what if shiki was there and also shirou had the archer class card ?
what possibly made you think shiki would be in a fate protagonist video ?
@@TsiahIV I had a feeling would have loved to see him
@@TsiahIV btw are you in better condition than before?
@@TsiahIVto be fair, you could've titled it "Fate" instead of "Type-Moon" to guarantee more clicks but had other type moon protagonists there (though I am not sure who is beating Aoko's true magic). Not saying that you should've done that but it wasn't out of the realm of possibility.
@ainzooalgown1426 cause that's totally in character for me to do right? Smh. It really do be your own people
As usual, this video slaps. Bazett is the GOAT as usual, but I was surprised to see Ritsuka carry so long, especially against mavericks like Iori and Shirou.
Going by what i know Illya, Iori, and Bazzett have the most likeing to win in the situation you set.
happy shirou day!!!
Looking back I genuinely forgot that Bazzet honestly WOULD use the stick
Before watching the video, placing my bets on Hakuno cause Dead Face. Assuming that doesnt work where this is happening, I'm leaning towards Shirou.
MY GIRL BE THE BEST! Somebody better pick up that phone cause I CALLED IT!
Well Bazett is probably the most physical and prepared protagonist even having a noble phantasm in her back pocket.
Shirou just uses his [Feika] stand and copies everyone till he beats all of them then proceeds to have seggs with seiba the end
I feel like Iori should do better than most. Other than Prisma Illya.
Lmao, what i get for posting before i watch.
2nd edit: damn, ritsuka did not deserve to go out like that.
I'd love to see a holy grail battle Royale with every servant and master
Ritsuka has an army of like 300 servants, there is no way he loses hahaha
@@CatroiOz We will have to merge him and let him have Mash only
Ritsuka 6 servant and then followed by full 3 line restore spirit origin is gonna broken as hell
All odds are against ma boi Shirou...Fck! I admit that Shirou's the only protag I love in the whole fate franchise, but the others have too much advantage over him.
Bro you got to celebrate shirou day.
Good video, Im just wondering wouldn't Shirou be able realise that Bazett has Fragarach due to be able to "auto analyze" any wepon in his vicinity? this means he would know that he can't show UBW against her? or can't he see from within the thing she uses to hold it? but wouldn't he know that the thing she uses to hold it is holding Fragarach as that is its "purpose"? still great vid
thanks. he knows nothing about bazett pre ataraxia and she would have to use it first for him to scan. That's the whole point, its a counter
I wanna see this but with Tandem with their Main Servants also they have to summon the servant at the start not automatically summon at round 1 it'll be fun being the first one either the Master rushing for the kill while others rush to summon servants (only 1 without any variants servant so if there's already an Artoria no Artoria alter or Castoria) ei Ritsuka with Mash(kinda a bad match up but it's Mash it'll be alot more disappointing without Mash) Hakuno with Umu Sieg with Jeane(not his servant but if someone gonna answer Sieg's summon it's be her Siegfried Fran or Kriemhild I'm leaning towards Jeane more) I'm not familiar with the other Fates to say whos the servants for other protag but this 2 will be the interesting one Shirou and Kiritsugu who ever manage to summon first will get OG Saber but I see it as Shirou being ambush at the start so he will not be able to summon so Kiritsugu will have Saber BUT who will Shirou summon?(don't know where I read it but someone said that Nasu said if shirou didn't have any Catalyst he would have summon Curse Arm BUT) HE DOES have a catalyst a certain Red Gem that was used to heal him he still has it till adulthood and even during his time as a servant so he DOES HAVE a catalyst to summon Guardian spirit EMIYA (yeah I wanna see a shirouXshirou tandem and also want to see Shirou{and Shirou} forcing to fight against Artoria)
edit: also having EMIYA in this will continue Cu Chulain's curse(Bazett will 100% summon Cu) of having "That Red Archer goes wherever he goes"
*and what about carnival phantasm protagonists?*
Already know this video about to be crazy!!!!!!
Throughout all this, why didn't Ritsuka just summon Gilgamesh or at least summon Mash or Castoria for the crazy defence?
If he summoned Shadow Servanta such as Gilgamesh instead of Edmond, he could counter Zombie-Shirou's NP spam and have access to Clairvoyance.
That and Ritsuka knows Shirou looks like a CERTAIN Saber/Alter Ego he last saw in Castoria's Lostbelt. And he knows Shirou fights exactly like the Heroic Spirit he has already summoned before, EMIYA and EMIYA Alter.
I can at least answer the Mash bit: She's a demi-servant and can't be summoned by Guda. As for other servants, they could be too taxing.
He needs the briefcase and Mash's shield to summon a proper servant.
So there's only shadow servants which is still powerful.
@@ikram1572 Sorry, I meant the Chaldea Shadow Servants like the ones he summoned during the battles he had in this vid. He clearly didn't use the briefcase or Mash's shield either just to summon Shadows.
In the Shimousa main storyline Ristuka is completely isolated from Chaldea but uses Chaldea Shadow Servants over many battles to survive. The rogue Servants he encounters, such as Lancer Houzouin Inshun, comments on how convenient it is that he can use those Combat Summons where he summons Shadow Servants in battle. Otherwise, Ritsuka would have died with weaker human Musashi that was slowly getting stronger WITHOUT his Shadow Servants.
And more importantly... Ritsuka NEVER used Mash's Shield and the briefcase in Shimousa for the Shadows he summoned (our own Servants we were forced o use in other words). Mash's Shield + Briefcase summoning only happened AFTER Shimousa and all of part 1.5 when Chaldea was completely infiltrated and destroyed from the inside-out. The briefcase only shows up in the part 2 prologue and afterwards. Not before.
Also Ritsuka can summon without Mash and the briefcase in many other main story and event scenarios
@@TheStuffEnjoyer oh no, he can summon shadow servants all by himself. The black shadowy ones.
But the actual servants needs Mash's shield. One scene I remember was LB 6 where Mash was fighting demonic dog Barghest and Lancelot and Gawain was summoned by her shield.
@@GuardianTempest Fair point about Mash.
However, lorewise, our own Servants that we use in these brief combat scenarios are essentially shadow variants of them during battle. The main story mentions them several times, such as in Shimousa when Kotarou finds out that we were already summoning these Shadow Servants when we were completely cut off from Chaldea. Musashi is even curious about them in the same scene.
For example the part where Musashi says:
Musashi: So then, what makes him [Normal Fuuma] different from the ones [Shadow Servants] you normally summon? Wait. Huh?
But we know up to this point we have been able to summon a maximum of 5 Shadow Servants plus Forced Support Musashi in the main story battles of Shimousa. But this is without Chaldea. Is Seraph CCC main interlude we also summon Shadow Servants and they are also mentioned there as well. In LB 1.5 Shadow Servants are menrioned again. In Morgan's Lostbelt they're used again such as when we summon Lancelot and Gawain.
Despite how taxing its mentioned in the story even with Chaldea support, we always get cut off from Chaldea and summon Shadow Servants just fine.
The only time we couldn't cannonically summon any Servant and Shadow Servant was during the Lostbelt prologue when we had only Mash, Sherlck and Da Vinci as our normal Servant or and no Shadow Servants. This was followed by getting the briefcase and us being able to summon and maintain both types of Servants again.
Wait... So Benkei can steal NPs?! In hindsight , it makes it seem like CasGil summoned Benkei because he has a thing for Fakers, doesn't it...
Commenting before watching fully: Respectfully I think Iori would probably beat the heck out of pretty much all of them 😅
Throw both shiki's in there from garden of sinners and tsukihime.
Do we account for thia for flat
Also wasn’t it stated that bazett actually would beat Rin and shirou even if shirou was at operating himself to the max
flat isnt the main character so of course not
Hot damn, I'm only halfway through this and this is 🔥 lol
This was awesome! Great work, fellow Master.
This is a complicated question, but a fun one. I've been playing Samurai/remnant and have really enjoying the system of the waxing moon ritual. So I was wondering, if the original Holy Grail wars followed the same format, which Servants would be summoned? I think, easiest to solve would be 5th as you could just add majority of the cast from Stay/Night & Prototype. But what is your opinion?
Damn, wanted to see Shiki... But great video btw~!
Your voice tho. Sounds like you got a cold ❄️🥶
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shirous fucking goated so he wins every time
The moment Manaka summon 666 is pretty much her own death IF she have Ruby in her hand... Why? Remember WHO created Ruby. Its the great marsher... He create them to destroy enemy of humanity. So of course Ruby will instantly switch side to Brazet. If anything knowing Ruby she would do it with literally anyone.
The most hilarious scenario would be if THAT person wa Emiya Kirisutgu... That will be cursed lol
How come the two emiyas didn't just team up together to fight the others off?
Maybe cause this is supposed to be an actual war ? Obviously this is a death battle no one is allowed to team up they are only allowed to control each other somehow
Every man for himself m8
@KingofHeroesGilgamesh Realistically, they would team up, and even in the source material people team up so it would make sense in this setting too.
I don't know much about him since I'm a lazy ass who don't read but I hope we can get Don't Sleep on Zelretch or Kirschtaria (I don't play FGO but I love your video about him).
My initial thought was if you do servants which ones does everyone get? Cause you can't give them all their servant otherwise it'd just be everyone vs ritsuka and his army
Placing my bets on Kiritsugu rn
How’d that go?
@@Captain_Hellas6991 This is late asf but not good at all lmfao
I loved the video, great analysis. I just found it inconceivable for Kiritsugu to lose to Ritsuka but hey sometimes you get got. Bazett op!
that's a fair argument, Kiri is a beast after all
You wouldn't found it inconcevable if you knew what ritsuka can accomplish currently by his own because currently he is stonger than many grand servants
Well this certainly was a fun event. Hope to see more my dude
You know, out of everything, I am surprised that Illya didn't have PTSD flashbacks from fighting Bazett again...
Fire video with a fire concept, I fw it 💯 definitely take care of your voice too homie, hope you doing good fr
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Let’s face it, Iori is just having the most fun.
I kind of would like a visual to see the final rankings.
Peak Kirei solos and tops the Emiyas.
Fuck the Emiyas
Literally.
hmm should we do this again with antagonists?
@@TsiahIVI'd be up for that. If we're doing it just like this, what Crypter would be use from FGO for example?
Hey I agree with you.
Fuck the Emiyas.
Especially Iriasve-
Like... in bed?
@@TsiahIVAll the antagonists slowly looking at the 8th servant. ☠️
Edit: Goetia, Tiamat, BB, Lostbelts. 😮💨
we need protype to be adapted already. ive listened to the audio dramas and wanna see the 1st and seconf tokyo wars
before watching the video, i wanna see who the "main" master is in Strange fake? ayaka?
Rin tohsaka should be here she is much a protagonist as shirou she had build up from fate zero
you sounded so more energetic before, what happened?
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Was worried aoko would be in here and just stomp glad we didn’t bring the op chars lol
not sure how people literally see "fate protagonist" and expect non fate leads. Bias I guess
@@TsiahIV she’s in fate carnival phantasm and is very much cannon as one of the only weirdest of true magic and she is a protagonist so I feel like it wasn’t a stretch
but is she the protagonist of fate grand carnival ? lol yall say anything
Awesome video tsiah. But i would have loved if u do a video with the servants. Cause there are so many cool fights that can happen from that. Also if u bring in servants, I think gudao would have won if u bought in servants. Cause if gudao have either draco, arc, or kuku. Then he would probably win. But if he have mash I think he would stop at monica or artoria. But good video.
I’ve been waiting🙏🙏
What happened to Saber, Rin, Sakura in Archer's timeline???
Most of the cast can fight a full on servant.... Oh dear jesus.
Could Manaka have beaten Bazette if Bazette wasn’t buffed at the end?
Awesome video
Can you make a video about the servants of fate/requiem?
Also don’t sleep on beowulf when
Ohhh very interesting
Bazett fans eating good today
Bro sounds so tired now 😅
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@@TsiahIVhope you recover my goat
Wait... Why didn't Sieg use his Fafnir form? His character is complete and we all know he can switch from Fafnir form to his other forms at will...
*And then he summons king Hassan behind Kiritsugu*
LMAO WAS THAT NECESSARY😭
That was overkill 😭😭
I'm surprised Ritsuka lasted that long.
HYYYYPEEEEE I'm fanboing rn
Great vid. Can you do a triple death match of
Bazdilot cordelion vs kitei kotomine vs soirchirou(buffed but caster will not be a part of the death match)
I’m gonna ask is this before or after Illya learns how to install the class cards?
Why? She has no cards either way
HAPPY SHIROU DAY EVERYBODY
that was badass man!
Well Iori is killing everyone.
not really.
Iori is skilled as a martial artist , so is Bazett , with the added bonus that she is also a fully-realized magus.
While Manaka is a monster in magecraft.
So , sure , Iori is a high-tier protagonist , but he is not "killing everyone". It's no demerit , Bazett and Manaka are two monstruous women and he more-or-less been able to keep up with just martial arts.
@phantasosxgames8488 I guess if I had to defend Iori, I would say that if he can take on Li Shuwen and Cu Culain, Bazett wouldn't be much of a stretch, combat and rune wise. Ioris Reverse Swallow would be too fast for Fragarach.
As for Manaka, the stuff that made her overpowered was from when she was bonded to the Beast. If it was her on her own, she's not that powerful. Still powerful for a normal human but nothing Iori can't handle.
If she is linked to the Beast, then yeah, it would be a difficult fight. Unless Iori can speed blitz her, she's going to dominate. I don't think she actually knows how to possess people on her own, though.
@@mongooseunleashed Iori faced Li and Cu , while having Yamato Takeru on his side.
By all means , his fight against Musashi is the only one that he was legit alone against a Servant.
Let alone that both Li and Cu were Rogue Servants , explicitly stated to be weaker than normally.
With that in mind , it's no different to when Bazett defeated a Shadow Servant Cu Culainn and EMIYA in Kaleid Prism , with the exception she did alone , rather than the aid of a full-on contracted Servant on her side.
@phantasosxgames8488 Several flaws with your argument.
So you're saying Iori can beat a BERSERKER Musashi but not a Rogue Servant?
Also comparing a Rogue Cu to a shadow servant is kinda unfair. Rogue Cu still has all of his abilities.
I'm not considering Yamato as a factor because Iori becomes on par with and is fighting equally alongside them. It would be different if I was saying Ritsuka or Hakuno were fighting with their servant. Iori is taking the same hits and dodging the same attacks.
wait so *** wins becasue they used another persons weapon? fair game i guess
Iori my 2nd favorite master
Ngl sieg would body a lot of them
very true, just didn't play out that way
@@TsiahIV also sieg my favorite protagonist just don’t ask why