Cost of living in Kyiv (Ukraine)

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  • @igorzemlyanoi5571
    @igorzemlyanoi5571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Hello! I live in Kiyv and I just wanted to add few things. Food costs are higher than stated in the video, I would say you need at least 200-300 usd per person for simple nutrition. You can't survive a whole month on 10 eggs :) And that is just for buying food. Paying for electricity, water and garbage removal would cost you 100-300 usd depending on the apartment. Rent options are available for every income from 300 usd per month to infinity :) I would say that you can easily live on 450-600 usd per month per person, provided that you don't rent apartment and you are healthy enough not to use medical service. It sounds like a great thing, but the average salary is around 400 usd in Kiev. So if you rent and you are not working in IT sector life is pretty hard for you. I worked as a chemical engineer for some time before switching to IT and that was pretty tough :)

  • @prager5046
    @prager5046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i
    visited Kiev twice. I liked it very much...the food is inexpensive and good as well the restaurants, and if you travel outside the city the restaurants are embarrassingly cheap...the large supermarkets in Kiev are better than in the USA...the Metro is amazing, very solid and dependable...the only problem is the language--you will have to learn down the road Russian and Ukrainian...Ukrainian is especially hard to learn, yet with long period of exposure, immersion and practice it might be doable. There is also something very charming with the mix of old European , soviet, and modern architecture, not to mention the majestic Dnieper River, one of the largest in Europe...
    PS: From the Ukraine you can travel to all Europe with relatively cheap flights or trains...also, at the beginning people might seem cold and reserved, until they know you and then they can be warm and very friendly...

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, thanks for the great insights

  • @cfonde
    @cfonde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I spent 2 weeks in Kyiv in August, and found a chain of cafeteria-like restaurants called "Puzata Hata" (Пузата Хата), where you can get a full meal for about $5.00, including drink. They serve soup, salads, many chicken, pork, vegetables, and other dishes. The food was very good, and we dined there almost everyday. They are all over Kyiv, and Ukraine.

  • @williamgill_esq.6487
    @williamgill_esq.6487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Got a lot of prices wrong - haircut much less, large gym much less. $85 a month for a gym??? Laughable. Try $20 a month. Gold's Gym in the States is only $40 a month. Also, if you are paying $15 for a lunch you are eating at higher end restaurant for tourists and well to do Kievans.
    But otherwise a good video.
    And the young woman who took time to be interviewed added a lot of good information and value to your video.
    👍

    • @thierrycompany848
      @thierrycompany848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you have fitness for 300 dollars month in Kiev

    • @Chris-gi9ch
      @Chris-gi9ch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering the average income there, the prices seem high?

  • @edgehodl4832
    @edgehodl4832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    thank you so much for this vid, the interview with Ukrainian girl was the best part! I am planning to move to ukrain in two years with budget of 1500/month.

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I could help

    • @thierrycompany848
      @thierrycompany848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bord in Kiev it's very small money but in small town it's good

    • @Mike-xw4gm
      @Mike-xw4gm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did u move if yes let's talk

  • @chriswesterfield4818
    @chriswesterfield4818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks. Why did you say 12 eggs cost $1? Ukraine NEVER sells eggs in quantities of 12, their big pack is 10. LOOK AT YOUR EGGS IN THE VIDEO = 10 !!!

  • @wheresvamp1758
    @wheresvamp1758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Damn $6 for unlimited data, call and internet at home. Wow im impressed :o, i usually live in germamy and we pay like $65 for phone plan and internet at home, which is not the fastest

    • @MaksymMinenko
      @MaksymMinenko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Calls (inside the network) are unlimited but data is not. But you get 9 GB for that money.

    • @albertocassinelli1218
      @albertocassinelli1218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very cheap country! Very poor people! Very sad! Beautiful country side beautiful churches . I am Italian

    • @catcherry.x6702
      @catcherry.x6702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro, ich zahle bei ALDI Talk für 1GB 3,99€ und kann mich nicht beschweren

    • @katitadeb
      @katitadeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@albertocassinelli1218 Ukraine has the same number of poor people as any other country, plus you can see several people wearing high fashion and luxurious accessories, let's not (expensive) fur during winter.
      Their "poorness " is not noticeable.
      Latin America is way more poor, you see children working on the streets (something I've never seen in Ukraine) and most countries appear on the lowest places in educated people ranking (Ukraine appears in the highest places)

    • @albertocassinelli1218
      @albertocassinelli1218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So true! Ukraine is not a third world country! Developed! Well educated country!

  • @mamarrachopunpun
    @mamarrachopunpun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BILA is one of the most expensive supermarkets. There are big differences in prices between different chains of supermarkets.
    It's been great to see again the crazy open air gym at Hydropark :-)

  • @NoNopeAndNo
    @NoNopeAndNo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    She said about $200 teachers wage & you just had a $15 lunch! 🤔🤯🤷‍♂️

  • @Jamminn555
    @Jamminn555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video, great info and interview with the very nice and friendly person from Kiev. Thanks so much for posting.

  • @westernwanderer8397
    @westernwanderer8397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Think about how much money I can save if I don't drink alcohol, don't go to the gym, and cut my own hair! Seriously, very good information. After all, we are all numbers and you broke it down by kilos. I plan to move to Ukraine in a few years, most likely Kyiv.

  • @anilramrajrajpal4244
    @anilramrajrajpal4244 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice informative video, good quality, thank you.

  • @bilgegrunge5980
    @bilgegrunge5980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much. Pending world issues we will be there next year. Maybe locate the area of my great grand parents.

  • @Arch0n8
    @Arch0n8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Just want add clarification about the average income. Because the girl gave an inaccurate info.
    Official average income in Ukraine is around $400. In big cities it's higher. Around $700 in Kyiv. That's officially, plus people often have income in cash and don't declare it. 30-40% of economy is not observed.
    You can really see that people are not that poor as some say. Especially in Kyiv.

    • @Arch0n8
      @Arch0n8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      $200 is the minimal wage.
      Teachers get more, around $400-500.

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the correction and insight :)

  • @easystreet1888
    @easystreet1888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was in Kiev in 1971. It was very different from what I see today on the video.

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet, for better I guess he?

    • @easystreet1888
      @easystreet1888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pattifilms7858 Yes, you are correct. Things appear much better. in '71 the government control was so oppressive it negatively impacted our holiday. But strangely it seems it'seven harder to visit Russia today than it was in '71. All we had to do them was provide an agenda for the campgrounds we would be staying at and prepay them. There was no invitation requirement and such as there is today.

    • @JackSpektor
      @JackSpektor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@easystreet1888 you can come to Ukraine without visa now for many countries. Or you can apply online for visa.

    • @easystreet1888
      @easystreet1888 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JackSpektor Now I'd only need to find the gas (energy) for my body tank. But I think Russia is not so easy to visit visa-wise.

  • @maksimkempe3425
    @maksimkempe3425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's worth noticing that average salary in Kiev is slightly more than 500 dollars per month, which means that "simple guy" George is quite rich by Ukraine standards.

    • @thierrycompany848
      @thierrycompany848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @KS PRADEEP in small town it's 30% less prices

  • @zeroque2936
    @zeroque2936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work, thanks for doing this video.

  • @TheAlexcutting
    @TheAlexcutting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video, the girl at the end was levely very polite

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the compliment. And yes she was very polite 😊

  • @rommelb.8070
    @rommelb.8070 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love Ukraine !

  • @rawtube7
    @rawtube7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We need Toronto! And How can you afford to travel everywhere? You can make a video on that too

    • @pinakidas397
      @pinakidas397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Explain please - I have been calling Toronto my home and don't agree with this statement.

  • @alwayspete
    @alwayspete 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you very much for this very insightful video on general expenses!!! Coffee at 1.5 US$ is not 30 US$ for a month, but 45 US$! The lady you interviewed in the end, where is she from? Is she a Ukrainian? She speaks fantastic English!!! Fantastic job brother! Could you pretty please do one with Lviv city too?
    Pete :")

    • @davidepatti4835
      @davidepatti4835 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the lady was from ukraine and was working as an english teacher. I was there with him, cheers.

    • @alwayspete
      @alwayspete 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So you are the guy doing all that magic behind the camera!?! Thanks Davide!
      Pete :")

    • @F__D__R__
      @F__D__R__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For 20 coffees a month he says :) making it 30dlrs ;)

    • @katitadeb
      @katitadeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      She's Ukrainian, Ukrainian girls dress nicely. Western tourist look like dirty hippies.

  • @tallinthesaddle
    @tallinthesaddle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Very succinct and helpful. Thank you

  • @lightning6718
    @lightning6718 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think food in a restaurant is the most expensive expense in Kyiv. You can spend about $900 a month which is double the price of average monthly rent.

  • @Lazegoose55
    @Lazegoose55 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed the interview with the lovely lady.

  • @MarcusAgricola
    @MarcusAgricola 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The average salary in Ukraine is 250 USD per month. In Kyiv it is between 400 to 600 USD. So 1000 USD is impossible for the people. As Expat you also need to be lucky to get a job that pays at least 1000 USD.

    • @patrick1992
      @patrick1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's different there. A lot of them living with their family or have own Appartment. I have been in Kyiv this year for like for 4 weeks all in all :D

  • @banderbanderas5067
    @banderbanderas5067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apartment with fully furnished you can find a good one with 400$ per month 😜

    • @williamgill_esq.6487
      @williamgill_esq.6487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bander انا اتزوجك
      NOT in or near the center.

  • @randomperson-zs5wb
    @randomperson-zs5wb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can live much cheaper than that in Kyiv.

  • @pinakidas397
    @pinakidas397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Run away from Uklon if you don't know Russian use Uber instead.

  • @AereForst
    @AereForst 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What app was that that translates instantly using the camera? Very cool.

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's just the Google translate app and then you use the camera

  • @BlueTravelPlus
    @BlueTravelPlus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gyms are much cheaper. 30-50

  • @aneeshjoshi545
    @aneeshjoshi545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Living in Ukraine can only be considered as a retirement option. Because they pay so low salary it's not worth it to move in your working years. One cannot live on money/ salary earned in major cities eg. Kyiv with any comfort.

  • @wisatamalam9608
    @wisatamalam9608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know my family want or not that price 🤔
    We choose buy more than rent, Lviv 🇺🇦 for our based so maybe our family buy land and village for renovation 🤔
    But my family say want build train station & train, so their money very much 🤔

  • @hooman-26
    @hooman-26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m really surprised because I see most of the prices match with Argentinian prices (in USD). Even the salaries are that low here.

    • @hooman-26
      @hooman-26 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except for internet which is about $20 a month here.

    • @TotalTolik
      @TotalTolik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hooman-26 I use to live in Argentina till 2011 and i paid about 50 US$ monthly for internet,so here in Kiev its way cheaper ( 5 $ )

  • @whyrulikedis8248
    @whyrulikedis8248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Do a tokyo one

  • @murphylin2798
    @murphylin2798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tak . Thanks for your video. It's pretty useful to us. But you said . A simple people who live there. May cost 1000 dollars per month is too expensive. Are you a local person there? I plan to travel there. Next year. Maybe you can give me some help. I will be thankful. Thanks guys

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi, I am not from Kiev. I just travel around the world and try to give people an idea of how much it costs to live in the different cities.

  • @JustMeNoOther
    @JustMeNoOther 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is the translator app did you use at the end of the video?
    Thanks!

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's Google translate, you have to enable the camera.

    • @JustMeNoOther
      @JustMeNoOther 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pattifilms7858 Greetings!!!

  • @Greasyhair
    @Greasyhair 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1000$ per person yes that's correct

  • @anunciandoimoveislda.5376
    @anunciandoimoveislda.5376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done!

  • @Dufoth
    @Dufoth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very compelling argument to move there.

  • @narendrareddy8551
    @narendrareddy8551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice Vedio

  • @vizzshah7079
    @vizzshah7079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cheapest internet is offered in INDIA, $5.7 for 84 days & that give literally unlimited calls n daily 1.5GB 4G data

  • @andresil8330
    @andresil8330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m moving there soon.
    Only concern is medicine quality. You guys think it’s possible to have access to good clinics/doctors there? I hear so many different opinions about this subject.

    • @Decoarchy
      @Decoarchy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Paid medicine has normal quality.
      Dentistry has really good quality with very low prices.
      Government medicine is free, but quality highly depends from location and specific hospital.

    • @andresil8330
      @andresil8330 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Decoarchy Thanks, mate.

  • @theantichrist6524
    @theantichrist6524 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good information

  • @harpreet928
    @harpreet928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which app did you used for camera translation ? At 9:50 video, you just shown it on phone.

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Google translate

    • @harpreet928
      @harpreet928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pattifilms7858 does it really works with camera, instant feature, coz i use it on browser just to translate words by copy paste method.

  • @garybolenable
    @garybolenable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG! What were you using to make your camera translate from Russian into English?

  • @user-ow8oh1ur3b
    @user-ow8oh1ur3b 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's too much to pay 600$ for a flat in Ukraine even in Kyiv.

  • @saulius8568
    @saulius8568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you survive there guys :D :D it's crazy

  • @crafchan
    @crafchan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Teachers get 200 dollars per month??is tat true??Where I can hire ppl who can eng??i would like to start up a bussiness over there

    • @Arch0n8
      @Arch0n8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. They don't get a lot, but more. Around $400-500.
      $200 is the minimal wage

  • @mervynmontague1811
    @mervynmontague1811 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting

  • @NareshKumarBanger
    @NareshKumarBanger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks dear.

  • @mt1885
    @mt1885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *VERY expensive considering the income is bottom of the barrel - and the civil war*

  • @user-qq1yx6jh7w
    @user-qq1yx6jh7w 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arsenalna is the deepest metro station in the world

  • @OkimeOlvx
    @OkimeOlvx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is Ukraine so expensive?

  • @Aleks_Fenomen
    @Aleks_Fenomen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lol, I live in Kiev throughout life and i never seen cost of life like this before. Average salary for citizens is 400$ for mounth. How to spend 1000$+ if you dont crime person who steal cash from bank?))

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think locals Just live differently. Need less stuff.

    • @patrick1992
      @patrick1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pattifilms7858 bro no :D I'm from Germany and lived 2 months in Kyiv near arena city :D

    • @katitadeb
      @katitadeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be very helpful to see your cost of living as an actual local with a more realistic and average life style. Most of these videos don't seem reliable because of what you just said.

    • @Aleks_Fenomen
      @Aleks_Fenomen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@katitadeb I live in Kiev all my life, you can just trust me on word). It depends what how you life and how much you need to life. I spend 150-230$ for buying food in supermarket, i can cook, so i cook at home and I don't spend extra money for restaurants. Cost of rent apartments is 185 for month. Every human need own leisure needs and you can calculate what you need without minimal cost for life. Real average pension in Ukraine 75$, it's unreal for survive, so you can live in Ukraine as you want

    • @JackSpektor
      @JackSpektor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually 2 parents are working in the family, and people like to have second jobs. Also many things can be found cheaper with worse quality. But you are right - life is tough with 400$ a month. But possible.

  • @navdeepchaturvedi13
    @navdeepchaturvedi13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please tell about boys and girls life style of Ukraine... and also tell night life of Ukraine!

    • @Decoarchy
      @Decoarchy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Life style is quite similar to other European countries.

  • @clesterbaladad5491
    @clesterbaladad5491 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the internet its vey cheap

  • @etemgenc3838
    @etemgenc3838 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    london cheaper than kiev on food shoping

  • @jadmusto1921
    @jadmusto1921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you hav problem with numbers or it's very expensive

  • @thierrycompany848
    @thierrycompany848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    maybe 1000 euros in Ukraine is 2000 or 2500 euros in France

    • @Niceguy54444
      @Niceguy54444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No its like 4k in france

    • @thierrycompany848
      @thierrycompany848 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Niceguy54444 no 4000 in France you live much better than 1000 in Ukraine

  • @_rio
    @_rio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Next: Cost of living in Pripyat

  • @romymbatonga7505
    @romymbatonga7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most Ukrainians are average persons and I don't think that your information are good, you have to give the cost of living with someone that as a medium salary, not a 1050 dollars salary, most people don't have that salary in Ukraine, like the girl said a teacher get a salary of 200 dollars a month.

  • @Chris-gi9ch
    @Chris-gi9ch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No beef? Bummer.......

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is, it's just not as common as in other countries

  • @markblix6880
    @markblix6880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That girl was super.

  • @barnold62
    @barnold62 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So that didn't include an apt.?

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The total included the rent for an apartment yes!

  • @saif.restifer.khomain
    @saif.restifer.khomain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not cheap, enough expensive.

  • @albertocassinelli1218
    @albertocassinelli1218 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know how much would all these products will cost you in Italy?

  • @m.goodengumman3941
    @m.goodengumman3941 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wages 385$
    Rent 600 $ p/ month??

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes rents are too high in kyev. If you want something in the city center prices are around that. Of course you can find waaay cheaper options if you go a bit outside.

    • @m.goodengumman3941
      @m.goodengumman3941 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @tom johansen oh ok thanks for reply.

    • @Arch0n8
      @Arch0n8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Average official income in Kyiv is around $700. Plus a lot of people get paid with undeclared cash.
      Even with low average many people get more. E.g. they're around 100,000 IT specialists in the city who get $1500-4000 per month after tax.
      So rent price is reasonable. The demand set it.

  • @brent4770
    @brent4770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No beef/no me ; ) Is that $1000 USD? Do people make that much there?? A gym is almost as much as an apt. What is wrong here? Also how about clubbing on the weekends? Cover charges, booze?

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes gyms are veeeery expensive in Kiev. Clubbing will cost about 40 dollars a night with 2 or 3 drinks. Drinks in the club are not too expensive but the entrance is like 10 to 20 dollars.

    • @thierrycompany848
      @thierrycompany848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brent 1000 dollars is very small in kiev better 2000 dollars for live good

    • @brent4770
      @brent4770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thierrycompany848 How do Ukrainians get $2000 a month usd?? I've always heard that place is poor.

    • @thierrycompany848
      @thierrycompany848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brent4770 yes many people live with small money but maybe 30% live very good, i know a girl in Odessa she is manager in restaurant she haves 19 years old and she earns 2000 euros it's just an exemple

    • @cfonde
      @cfonde 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brent, they have beef but you have to know where to look. I found a beef store, M'yastoriya in the TSUM Mall on Khreschatyk St, but that store looked expensive. I Googled "beef in Kyiv" and found a few other butcher shops, and restaurants that have steaks, etc., but again, by U.S. standards, it is going to be expensive.

  • @teodortheentertainer6082
    @teodortheentertainer6082 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Teacher gets $200 per week in Kiev - i know it is not much for such a profession but you can live for that considering you pay in hryvnias.

    • @lienbijs1205
      @lienbijs1205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skyturklosangeles Really? That is the monthly allowance I give to my 14 yrs old daughter.

    • @lienbijs1205
      @lienbijs1205 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skyturklosangeles Ok, Could you explain to me please? Is my ex husband lying that his Ukrainian girlfriend is earning 4000 dollar a month and financially not depending on him? He said that she is on a high position in the Auchan supermarket, something administrative, I just think that she started a relationship with my 20 yrs older husband only to get visa for Europe......

    • @lienbijs1205
      @lienbijs1205 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skyturklosangeles Thank you, that I know, only tourist visa.

    • @thierrycompany848
      @thierrycompany848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skyturklosangeles but a lot of rich in Kiev and middle class near 3000/5000 euros month, look in the streets you will see cars more than 50000 everywhere

    • @thierrycompany848
      @thierrycompany848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lienbijs1205 yes many people have hight salary in Ukraine

  • @drainmonkeys385
    @drainmonkeys385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve got retirement salary between pension and other investments.. amount to about $6,600. US. I don’t spend a lot ... but I like to have food cooked for me... and hot girls

    • @newmanfertig886
      @newmanfertig886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That a big pension dude. Enjoy it.

  • @geminix365
    @geminix365 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Spain is cheaper

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would say so, but close and depends which city...

    • @MrJakobs007
      @MrJakobs007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spain is NOT cheaper, - check listings like BigMac index ect.,,

  • @richnokes3270
    @richnokes3270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ttvmortemoni1495
    @ttvmortemoni1495 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn this aged poorly

    • @pattifilms7858
      @pattifilms7858  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's sad... Such a beautiful city.

  • @richnokes3270
    @richnokes3270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!