You might be DESTROYING your transmission
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In this video we check out some significant tranmission damage as a result of an abused system all together. "Bang shifting" or "power shifting" has its perks situationally but eventually all things must come to an end when the abuse is too great.
Join me as we walk through this particular case and discover how certian part failure can result in different symptoms felt by the rider.
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This is far and away the best explanation out there on the topic of shifting. Period. All riders need to see this.
Share share share! Let’s let them know!
Thanks for the compliment!
@@TheMotorcycleMD I already did. 🍻
Agreed, one of the best videos on youtube currently explaining transmission problems on a motorcycl
Hello, idk if i have this problem But i Will try too explain, i can go full throttle in 1st 3d 4th 5th. But not in 2nd if i go over 60% throttle in 2nd it loses power for a millisecound like it ”dies” what could it be? (450 atv 5 speed) people have said carburator problem But idk does not feel like it for me while driving it,
Will wearing the dog's cause the oil to go silvery? My 5th gear is starting to pop out. I've never used the clutch while changing gears. 13000kms on the bike
Unless you're racing just use the damn clutch guys.I never believed that clutchless shifting was okay to do, probably because I understand mechanics and have mechanical sympathy
I have only ever power shifted a few times. I had an 81 kz750 with a frozen clutch, and that was the only way to test drive it. It seems easier to power shift if you rev high and with pressure on the shift lever, you let off the throttle entirely and the lever will usually move. Thanks for showing the aftermath!
I’ve done it a few time myself, there is a sweet spot for short term needs. But long term, we can’t be so sure! 🤙🏻👌🏻
I have an 82 Yamaha xs400 that I treat like shit and fix when it breaks. I could probly remove the clutch lever and never notice at this point 😂 I know I'm messing it up but meh it's my ratbike
Cut your video at 11:54 the rest is just black screen, bad edit
I thought he was doing the marvel movies trick 🤣
hahahah wth
Brilliant and so informative Cody - as usual! Understanding how the gearbox/transmission works is my nemesis.
Glad you stopped in Paul! Thanks for hanging out!
This makes me worried for my own transmission, I wish there was a way to look at it without taking the whole thing apart
Don't speed shift people. It's stupid unless you're a professional racer.
What if you do it a few times by accident
awesome video very good explanation.
My 2010 Honda cbf125 sometimes pops out of 2nd gear and 3rd gear is sometimes not there, I need to let off the gas and retry and its back again.. Do you think its the shift drum screwed?
bent fork/forks more likely
So??? Did he go for it!!!???? IE: replace it all?
Hav the bike for 8 years never open the motor up
Excellent video and great explanation fo everything! That tranny certainly got destroyed! LOL Thansk so much for sharing brother and hope you're doing well!
Thanks brother! Same to you!
i bought bike with les than 4000 km and this hapened to me now i can drive with any other gear only 3 is the problem with engine breaking and shifting into gear 3 it seams like i shift in 0 gear when i relise clutch . I have kawasaki ninja 2004 600ccm with sliper clutch what you think can this be problem with clutch? or it is definetly gearbox but is strange cause low km.
Get the rear wheel off the ground and manually shift the bike through the gears without it running. You should be able to shift cleanly in and out of all the gears while spinning the rear wheel
@@TheMotorcycleMD thanks i tray this and it looks and sound ok so mybe i have clutch problem but only one gear it is strange mybe more force than any other gear
Power shifting, are you meaning clutchless ?? Gearboxes have always been a weak point for me. Not that Ive had problems and needed to work on them. However this was a good vid for me for a better understanding of how they work. Thank you Cody.
power shifting is shifting while you're on the throttle, clutchless shifting done right won't damage anything
clearly, that guy didn't do a clutchless shift right
he probably just slammed it into gear without letting off the throttle in between gears
I’m glad I know this. I used to to clutchless shifting all the time, not constantly but like try to do it from time to time because my guts tells me that it is not a good idea, because if it’s designed to clutchless shift then it wouldn’t include a clutch kit to begin with. Thanks for this affirmation.
you need clutch to start moving from standstill
Cool video 🤩 thank you 👍
I appreciate this video man. I was taught power shifting when i got my first bike and I quickly decided it was not good. I feel like doing that for a couple weeks has caused some serious problems with my transmission. I'm scared to even know what's going on in there. I'm hoping the problem isn't the transmission, but it doesn't seem to be the clutch. It has a clanking noise accelerating in first and second gear, and slightly in third, and mostly under load while accelerating and the clutch is not engaged.
My gl1800 Goldwing lost most of its transmittion a few days back. Don't know why but it was sudden and totally unexpected. I'm now pulling off and riding in 4th gear everywhere. It lost 5th first then 1st and 2nd vanished followed by 3rd earlier today. I lost neutral and also reverse just 20 minutes ago so I literally only have 4th left. I have had five gold Wings and all of them have gone the same way. Some of them lasted over 80000 miles and some of them lasted just 80,000 miles. It is going to cost me the better part of 3 1/2 g to get fixed next month
Nice information, and video, one topic you did not mention was "under-cut-gears" do you think you could touch on that part of machining/massaging gear dogs? Peace
I likely won’t make a specific video about it. But I personally would not spend money in an effort to machine away a problem that has been created which ultimately weakens structure of the gear.
If the gear is obsolete and no replacement exists ever. Sure do what you want. 👍🏻
When we get in a job like this we make up a "worst case" estimate. Then we tell the customer if you are not ready to spend XX dollars we don't want to start.
That’s a great way to navigate that conversation bro 👍🏻
I've got a 1985 kawasaki what in 1st its very still to roll the bike with the clutch in, I can barely shift into 2nd and if I shift into 3rd gear it becomes like neutral. Would that be the transmission or the clutch?
That's a real talent to wreck the whole gearbox. One the customer can reflect on when he gets the bill. What is it with some people?
They want to go fast 😂
I like your work!
Huh. I accidentally learned how motorcycle transmissions work today.
Thanks, algorithm.
Fantastic video, by the way. Real good stuff here.
♠️killer video
Cant dogs be resurfaced taking minimal amount of material off and restoring dogs teeth geometry?
Buying new would be the way to go I would think!
@@Kaabe939 well yeah, but in theory, there is alot of "meat" left on those dogs.
I'd want to ask if downshifting with the clutch partially pressed is a problem as big as doing it clutchless. This question comes because I'm a relative new rider and yesterday I tried to put just one finger on the left lever as I do with the other hand on the brake. I'm not 100% sure to completely disengage the transmission/engine, because I cannot control the exact amount of pression I put on it. So, in case I'd be still in the friction zone of the cluch, my gearbox is soffering? I'm asking just for the downshifting and for completeness I manually blip the throttle in the meantime because it "sound" smoother. Am I doing something wrong for my transmission? Many many thanks.
I have a honda cbr f4i every time I shift into 2 gear about 8thouand rpms it slips into neutral, do you think it might be my transmission or clutch ? Any info would be helpful
This is a very helpful video,thank you very much.
Cody, when I purchased my 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 300 ABS SE from the original owner 3 yrs ago, I noticed something:
If I increase the RPMs past a certain amount (around 5000 RPMs) while in 1st, 2nd (and I think maybe 3rd as well), they suddenly want to jump up to redline.
It feels as though the gear is actually slipping out of its position and into Neutral.
In your expert opinion, what do think might be happening, and what is a good possible solution to fix this issue?
Thanks!!!
Hi what about a 125 e storm honda i have a problem with my gear 3 almost like its jumping
This makes me worried for my own transmission, I wish there was a way to look at it without taking the whole thing apart
Just got my 450 and I’m having a similar issue should I rebuild the full trans or just some of the parts
This makes me worried for my own transmission, I wish there was a way to look at it without taking the whole thing apart
i have a question so i have a 08 trx450er and just had the engine rebuilt and im building pressure in my transmission all vent tubes are clear and not pinched so what could it be
Why would a 1996 Honda Shadow 1100 only have 4 gears?
02 vt1100c will not get into neutral. Any tips
Hi Cody, my vt750 shadow makes a whine under engine braking is this normal for the Shadows?
i should add that it shifts smoothly and stays in the gear selected
Great video mate, what was the outcome on the repairs!
Thanks for the video
Love these details! How long should one of these last if you use the clutch and don’t hammer shift it? Is there anything in particular that you can do to not trash the gearbox?
Using the clutch a transmission will usually last the lifetime of the bike assuming no factory defects are found. Best advice of longevity is reading the owners manual. Honda is pretty specific on what gears can be shifted at which speed. ( even though usually you’re fine just be careful from 1st to second) also make sure to use good oil and change it when needed. Magnetic drain plugs increase the life of internal bearings
I think you just solved an issue i have with a 97 thundercat. 2nd and 3rd gear slips out and then in again under heavyload kinda like you describe @4:30 feels scary as shit, the whole bike just wobbles. Total cheap beater bike so don't really care about it but what would you estimate the cost being? or how much would you charge for the work in the video?
Thanks!
*Googles what a Thundercat is…
Snowmobile?! Bro I have absolutely no idea what someone would charge on that. Any transmission tear down is going to be over 1k I can’t tell you that much.
@@TheMotorcycleMD Yamaha* well i said bike, why would it be a snowmobile? Thanks anyway
Quickshifters - what is your opinion? Obviously not on vintage bikes but starting to be more common on new higher end models. I rented 3 different bikes with quickshifters, learned to keep RPM up as the system automatically adjusts RPM for next gear, cuts spark during the time of shift to take pressure off the tranny internals. As an old-timer I was very reluctant to use a quickshifter, but found it helpful getting on the freeway.
I think they are great! I’ve installed some factory made ones in Honda’s newer bikes. Electronics can speak to each other a lot quicker then manual movement of the rider in my opinion. Especially with slipper clutches and the stuff you described I see no issues with them!
About to split the case on my 400ex. I have to figure out why it's popping out of 3rd gear. This was very helpful to know what kind of issues to look for
I have recently got a cbr 1000 rr from 2004 whe shifted fine ran through all the gears just fine but 3rd gear would rattle alot but only with throttle closed, she didnt pop out of gear or anything just a rattle when decelerating.
I took out the transmission and found similar damage to my shiftdrum! had a big piece missing forks and teeth/dogs seem okay. What cause this? i can't imagine the mount of force needed to kick a chunk out of the shift drum. do you think it was a botched up or downshift?