I'm legit looking at this for my parent's setup. If I need to do a round trip for a fix, it's $50 to $70 in gas. But that Kickstarter syndrome has bitten me a few times to many.
Yea, but for $70, after you have fixed that Windows 7 machine for the nth time, you get to explain to your parents in person why you are still not married.
@@oscarcharliezulu It may help your confidence that this project is VC-backed (y-combinator) suggesting they actually have access to legit funding & supply chain, and are using kickstarter as “proof of market” rather than their main source of funding.
If any of both keep there word and do a proper open source release and try to build an open source community around it, then I think we will have a winner soon enough. Sad how JetKVM is tied to Google this way, we need to replace that with something like Tailscale.
Something that would be great is a comparison of all of the "DIY" KVM's on the market (Or at least the ones you have talked about before). That would really bring into context which is "best" for people and would show some SW updates for some of the others you show previously for comparison to new stuff.
Excellent video again thanks Jeff. It was your review of the other KVMs that led me to build an OoBM solution for remote access to a PVE cluster. The JetKVM looks brilliant and with a excellent price point. I'll be buying one of these very soon... If only someone would build one of these KVMs into a HDMI Keyboard switcher so I could access and control multiple machines remotely
Nice!! I went ahead and backed that project by ordering 2. I already have a couple of PiKVMs (V3 and V4) at home. So this is going to be a nice thing to have. 😁
If you wanted to roll your own non-JetKVM routing solution - JetKVM firmware is running BusyBox, so you could install Tailscale (or Headscale for self-hosted) on it.
I'm loving the ramp up of affordable mini IP KVM devices! I preordered the NanoKVM as soon as Wendel dropped his video and I received it a few weeks back-it works a charm! This video is tempting me to pickup a JetKVM. Even though it's features are pretty much the same as the NanoKVM-the company behind it seems more trustworthy considering it has the backing of Y Combinator and has public facing founders from multiple privacy respecting countries. Great overview as always @CraftComputing!
Or get a Nano KVM with Tailscale preinstalled 😉It also comes with a "real" HDMI port and auxiliary power input. I do like the design and the case of the JetKVM, however.
@@brandonchappell1535 using the first-party tailscale service, yes they control the coordination servers and relays, but generally it can establish a direct link between nodes (which you can verify by monitoring your network traffic). traffic bw devices is encrypted so relays can't inspect it and the client code is open source so you can verify the encryption. and finally you can also self-host coordination/relay using headscale, it's open source, not 100% full-featured but good enough for most homelabs.
That's just for authenticating to their coordination server which you can self host with headscale. No traffic goes through their servers as long as devices can have a direct connection to each other. They do have relay servers to handle the rare cases where a direct connection is not possible, but everything is still end to end encrypted with wireguard anyway.
@@DarkSedushi oh right, i did briefly look at headscale but seemed above my paygrade haha i love being able to tunnel in an its like being home. Helps with my double nat with plex too, i love it
Backed for two. The only feature I really wish they had added would be the ability to insert a micro SD card to extend the memory. I'm going to ship one to my Dad, so I can support him trying to brick his computer every few months.
Hm. If I'm reading this correctly, it doesn't have power management in the base package, so it would be relying on shaking the mouse to wake, for example, or power management from the OS. Great for what it is, but I'd need native power management for my use case. I wish the project every success.
Is there a way to power the device independently of the host? I haven’t encountered many systems that keep usb power up through a reboot. Also agree with others that this has limited use without the ability to “push the power button”.
So I wonder if this would work by connecting it to, lets say, a 8 ports KVM switch and if the switch itself supports CTRL+# to switch between servers. I know this works with PI-KVM. This thing should technically be able to as well right?
Only if the KVM switch allows connecting video, keyboard, and drives through a single HDMI connection. Most stand-alone KVM switches expect input to be a keyboard and mouse through USB and output video by HDMI or other connector. Often the HDMI isn't participating in the switched USB hub in the KVM, but there are too many on the market for me to say categorically, you'll have to test it. It's certainly possible.
I asked them on the Kickstarter if they could confirm its working in this configuration, since the Pi-KVM for example was found to not work with certain KVM switches but did work with others. They said they can’t confirm that at this time. So, take that as you will. I’m personally not counting on it too deeply, but still hope it’ll work. For what it’s worth, there are third party PI-kvm + normal KVM all in one / rack mount solutions in the $200-240 range for 4 ports. Which works out to just a bit cheaper in theory than a single jet-KVM per port, but not by much. It’s also not that far off from the cost of just a good 4 port KvM switch anyway (around $120 last I saw). So that may be a good alternative for you
@@guhak I thought about the KVM switch idea, but these are cheap enough that it would be nice to have one for each device and have multiple screens going.
This is perfect timing. I am building another server to send to my parents home as a BDR and second plex server but needed to ensure I had a way to troubleshoot without having them send it to me. I am setting it up with either WARP or TwinGate. I have both setup, just not sure which I should use.
I'm thinking perhaps PoE? You could use a USB-C hub/dock that adds power. Though it's so small it could run off a series of coin cell batteries if it wasn't getting power via USB.
I just set up a Linux server last month at my in-law’s house in Japan to capture broadcast TV and use as a VPN. I would have set one of these up if I had one. Gonna pick one up to play with.
Not including the ATX power, but being sold as an add-on (that is not priced yet) will make this option a lot more expensive. There are other PiKVM hardware solutions out there that cost a lot less than "the original" and that comes with ATX power ... Soo the hole "it's only 69$" falls apart, when you need to pay more to get the same basis functions other PiKVM based options has standard for just a few bucks more.
Mini HDMI is rough, way less robust and means you have to have the cables which are much less likely to just be around. Given the NanoKVM managed to fit a full-size HDMI port, I feel like this could have, any slightly bigger size would have been worth it.
Yeah. Bit odd design choice. I would think normal HDMI would be actually the cheaper option component wise. I most certainly wouldn't give a damn about bit larger device, even with same display as it appears to show everything needed.
Not saying a mini HDMI can't fail, but never had an issue. I have a mini HDMI to full HDMI cable that just works every time. Don't let your toddler use it and you'll be fine.
I backed the kickstarter, I do wish they gave you some of the accessories. Specifically the DC barrel adaptor…. I do think they did missed an opportunity not including PoE or a second usb port for alternate power I specifically want to be able to control my mini PC proxmox nodes with this but I’m not sure yet how that adaptor is going to function
I really like this device for being compact, easy to use and with a nice interface. The only thing I would like to see is a second USB port for power input so it's not reliant on the PC that it's controlling, PoE would be a sweet addition as well. Maybe with time we may see some VPN addons as well so it can be completely standalone?
Hi, thanks for the video. U are showing the KVM solution hooked up to a Intel Platform. Why not enable Intel AMT and use that for remote management? Has it less features than KVM?
Hear me out a 16 port PKVMoE A 1U KVM with a 900w PSU A 10G uplink and internal 1G switch and what equates to 16 USB-C docks supplying up to 90w of power and gigabit ethernet to devices(if all devices are connected and powered only supply 65w but supply 90w during boot) At work I have ~500 laptops to manage and because of the way people use them, i often have to re-image them once a year, i also order around 100 desktops/year for rotation and most of these at least have USB-C many of them can be powered by it(still waiting for Lenovo to include USB-C power for their Tiny, sure most of them go into their Tiny in One, its still a nice feature) But also i have mini PCs in my home lab and this would not only clean up my rack from all the network and KVM cables from my big servers, but would also eliminate the 2 rack shelves of power bricks for the mini PCs
Ok consider me a newborn computer user as fare as knowledge goes please. So if I get this right this unit can be hooked to my home computer Windows 11 Pro and will give me the ability to not only access my entire computer from WAN but I can also start and login to my computer if away from home?
The ISO streaming feature is the only thing I miss in my Sipeed NanoKVM. But, to be fair, $70 is what I paid for 3 of them, so there's not much I can complain about here.
This is sweet so I don't have to worry about graphics cards issues. Plus remote desktop doesn't like to open drives like CD or DVD. So I can do this on a fly to rip CDs while I am connected to my main PC
I can think of one more thing I could ask for. Being able to connect this one KVM to multiple machines. So I can access the KVM and then choose which server I want to access and control. But I guess I could just buy 3 of them for now 😅
Good, but no VGA. On a traditional, as in expensive solution, adding a VGA to HDMI converter is nothing, however at this price point it adds quite a bit, both in cost and size (many converters are bigger than this) So there is definitely a market for a native VGA version.
Hey Jeff, have you ever used a Raritan branded KVM? I used them frequently at work and really enjoyed using it. They are a bit spendy, but are amazing to use if you can get them cheaper. I have a personal one (DKX3-808) that I snagged recently for cheap and if you want to test it for a vid I would be able to send it your way temporarily. I am not sure if you do these kind of things but I thought I would at least offer since you have been doing KVM videos. I thought it might be interesting to show what KVMs are used in enterprise environments. If this is outside of your norms, it's no big deal.
If it uses UDP 3478 for WebRTC and can't be changed you can throw any Unifi networks out of the window. Just found this out as they use that port for the adoption services of their devices. I was wrecking my brain for months trying to figure out why I couldn't use rpc protocols through my STUN / TURN environment.
i am so buying one right now as some one who is the tec support for my family. i dont know how many times i have dropped what ever was doing to go to my parent/sister or my grandparents house to just reboot the pc/ remote into it for 5min of work. atlest 2/3 house holds if i gave them one with basic instructions on how to connect it to said device and or just have it plugged in all the time and set up save me 30-40min drive round trip each time
This would also be a good tool for travelling admin for headless (or failed monitor/KB) "client" PCs, with the network going directly to our laptop; replacing things like Nexdocks or GPD Pocket 3 (as both are "unproductive" to be carried in a trip without a laptop).
Does this come with a mini HDMI cable? I don't have any HDMI cables with a mini-connector. To bad it couldn't use a standard HDMI connector or DisplayPort.
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Sounds like a really great device, though I do wish they could have it powered via PoE. It could then be a good solution for people wanting to obtain a much cheaper alternative to the BliKVM. And its so tiny I could ship it to remote offices for easy TS, just 3 connections!
This looks interesting and it would certainly be a solution to a problem that I have. I am a little leery about Kickstarter projects. That I think I'm definitely going to pack this one. Only problem is, I may have run out of ethernet in the location where I would like to use this device.
Nice review So you cant use the the JetKVM with a Server that has no GPU, can you? Im running a server with an R9 3950X and a Tesla P40 - so completely headless... there is no GPU on board
Too bad they didn't also support a USB display device with the other virtual devices, then it could also just be one USB cord and Ethernet since this also won't work with plain-old-VGA and none of my servers have HDMI.
Well-built device - OK, nice, but how practical are all the case shapes of the different devices? In a rack, in a professional environment with multiple KVMs, I think only devices as plug-in cards or as 1U rack mounts make sense. Otherwise you end up attaching all the little boxes with Velcro. For use outside of a rack, a cuboid shape with screw options on several sides might be a good idea so that the KVM can be attached in different ways, and it shouldn't be too small for that either. An alternative would be the plug-in card, again, but there has to be space for it. This JetKVM looks so stylish, as if it should be used all the time instead of gathering dust behind the computer because the computer is remotely operated and controlled. It looks more like an alarm clock or status display.
What is the likelihood this makes it market, as in past the crowdfunding and into full on production. I dont do crowdfunding so this would have to make it to market for me to buy one, definitely interested if that is the case.
I would ask for IEC C13/C14 or 5-20R passthrough so that power could also be brute-forced without a managed PDU, and jumper wires for reset and power switches, to round out all the features of normal IPMI.
Those jumper wires are done well on the NanoKVM: they are in parallel with the stock power/reset/hdd-led wires so not only do you have power/reset control: even drive activity shows in the web console. Sometimes, especially during installs, it's nice to know the remote system is 'doing something' when it may otherwise appear to be idle or locked up.
Craft Computing very interesting! Question… is this something that’d work well for graphics editing on a remote Windows PC? I am about 95% converted to running Linux. There are just a handful of pesky Windows programs that I find hard to live without.
Looks nice, but... would rather have a "lower cost" option. Sleek case and screen add to BOM wo/ any real benefit that cheaper options wouldn't have. External power and power/reset connections should have been default not optional. Feels more of a "remote help" for "regular users" than "remote access" for "power users".
@@ewenchan1239 You don’t. There’s another RJ11 port for that, which carries ACPI/ATX signals. So yes, if you have the RJ11 adapter and the USB-C power and data splitter, then yes, you can power on the PC from a cold start.
@@fujinshu So...I'm confused. You'd send the power on command via the web UI over RJ45 which then goes over to the RJ11, which then has a data splitter and then where you plug the data splitter on the target system??? Like with the Pi-KVM and its distant cousin, the BliKVM, you are ACTUALLY interrupting the physical power header, on the motherboard. So, where are you going to be plugging the data splitter on your target system?
@@ewenchan1239 No. The USB-C should have a power and data splitter, so you plug the data end into your computer, and the power end to another power source, so that the JetKVM doesn’t need to rely on the computer being always on, which defeats the purpose of an ipkvm anyway if it’s just always on. The RJ11 port, as Jeff described, is a port that carries the relevant ATX power signals through that port. So you can plug in the relevant jumper wires to another board that then connects to the JetKVM via the RJ11 port. Maybe rewatch the video to see if it addresses your confusion.
I've worked with servers and sever class motherboards for many years and with that I've also used a lot of IPMI solutions. And the KVM part talked about here isn't actually a part of IPMI. Intelligent Platform Management Interface is really a function to provide data about the hardware to a remote client. This works by having a small computer, often a SOC, that monitors a network port and answers instructions by sending response in clear text format. This system contains a lot of information about the motherboard and it status such as temperatures, fans speeds, serial number, power status. It can turn a computer on or off through a soft or hard stop, reset CMOS (clear BIOS) and transmit and receive serial data so you can attach a serial terminal perfect for handling UNIX or other *NIX OS but not much use for a windows machine or other GUI based operating systems. It can also report information about the components attached and things like case, drive bays and so on provided it has been defined by the manufacturer. As for ability to take control over the machine it's limited to serial data so you can send and receive data as if you had a serial cable connected. This is fine for maintaining a Unix machine or one using any number of *NIX based operating systems but usually pretty useless for something with a GUI such as Windows. But the KVM over IP is not a part of the standard. It is however something that server manufacturers has implemented, usually by having the BMC host a web server and having it serve pages showing all the relevant data and also a java based client able to handle the KVM and remote media parts. This web server and the functions it provides is not part of the IPMI standard and works a bit differently for all the companies providing these BMC solutions. So KVM over IP is not a IPMI function. Doesn't mean it's not a good thing, but it's not a part of IPMI.
I need a KVM that has 4 ports with VGA or DisplayPort inputs, that can output to a monitor for the office and also be connected to over the network for remote use. 1u rack mountable. It's crazy this doesn't exist.
Would have rather seen it powered via PoE than the USB port. It is much easier to add a PoE injector than to try and find a way to get the USB port to be always on if the device doesn't have one. Hopefully they consider this and make a version that is PoE powered.
No wifi? I am using pi zero 2w and it will load pikvm with my pre-defined ssid (which I can use with my mobile setting it up when needed). And will also connected to my wireguard vpn so that I can access it via my home network (or remotely).
@@tgwaste small oled is a nice to have but it should goes well if proper ssid / vpn being configured correctly. If not, there is nothing to do even with oled. A case would impose extra weight, so unless it fits really well. The JetKVM seems nice if it is going to opensource, but without wifi, it is a dead end.
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I'm legit looking at this for my parent's setup. If I need to do a round trip for a fix, it's $50 to $70 in gas. But that Kickstarter syndrome has bitten me a few times to many.
Yea, but for $70, after you have fixed that Windows 7 machine for the nth time, you get to explain to your parents in person why you are still not married.
@@jasonluong3862 savage lmao
@@jasonluong3862 I also prefer to disappoint my parents in person. I’m traditional like that.
Yeah I can’t do kickstarter anymore unless the company has a track record of delivering …
And even then maybe not
@@oscarcharliezulu It may help your confidence that this project is VC-backed (y-combinator) suggesting they actually have access to legit funding & supply chain, and are using kickstarter as “proof of market” rather than their main source of funding.
Looking forward to the JetKVM vs. NanoKVM (or however the RISCV one is named) showdown. Love the price point & competition.
The new PCIe version of the NanoKVM looks sexy!
ooo, neat (re: NanoKVM)
especially since it supports TF/"microsd" 🤔
@@MikeKirkReloadedi wish it didn’t have the pcie “x0” connector because not a lot of newer motherboards can’t fit because of the nvme slots.
If any of both keep there word and do a proper open source release and try to build an open source community around it, then I think we will have a winner soon enough.
Sad how JetKVM is tied to Google this way, we need to replace that with something like Tailscale.
@@autohmae the Sipeed NanoKVM has a full GitHub now so we’re definitely trending in that direction.
Something that would be great is a comparison of all of the "DIY" KVM's on the market (Or at least the ones you have talked about before). That would really bring into context which is "best" for people and would show some SW updates for some of the others you show previously for comparison to new stuff.
2 mins in I was on the kickstarter and pledged for one, by the 8 minute mark I has changed my pledge to three devices :)
Couldn't tell you the last time I even humoured the idea of backing a crowd funded project. This one might just break that drought.
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I don't need it...
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"I'm buying the whole stock"
That's most of the lab 😂
Perfect timing, I've been looking for something like this and almost ordered a couple. Glad I waited, this is better.
Except it's a Kickstarter and isn't available for purchase yet.
Vaporware, you cannot buy one!
look for nanokvm
Excellent video again thanks Jeff. It was your review of the other KVMs that led me to build an OoBM solution for remote access to a PVE cluster. The JetKVM looks brilliant and with a excellent price point. I'll be buying one of these very soon... If only someone would build one of these KVMs into a HDMI Keyboard switcher so I could access and control multiple machines remotely
I remember saying it was beautiful but didn't know exactly what kvms actually do. I'm glad you elaborated on that.
Nice!! I went ahead and backed that project by ordering 2. I already have a couple of PiKVMs (V3 and V4) at home. So this is going to be a nice thing to have. 😁
Same, I hope they deliver. Just bought a TinyPilot ($400) the other day, but may resell that if these prove their worth.
@@jackieboy1593 $400 for one? Sheesh. Ya, I too hope the JetKVM takes off.
@@Darkk6969 Yeah, I needed a solution ASAP and TinyKVM wasn't out yet. Went ahead and bought 3!
If you wanted to roll your own non-JetKVM routing solution - JetKVM firmware is running BusyBox, so you could install Tailscale (or Headscale for self-hosted) on it.
I honestly always thought the first “I” stood for integrated. I learned something new today!
In for one. This will pay for itself the first time I don't have to lug an LCD over to the server rack. Hope it arrives.
I'm loving the ramp up of affordable mini IP KVM devices!
I preordered the NanoKVM as soon as Wendel dropped his video and I received it a few weeks back-it works a charm!
This video is tempting me to pickup a JetKVM. Even though it's features are pretty much the same as the NanoKVM-the company behind it seems more trustworthy considering it has the backing of Y Combinator and has public facing founders from multiple privacy respecting countries.
Great overview as always @CraftComputing!
Install tailscale on it and access anywhere without a 3rd party relay 😃
Or get a Nano KVM with Tailscale preinstalled 😉It also comes with a "real" HDMI port and auxiliary power input. I do like the design and the case of the JetKVM, however.
I thought tailscale uses their servers, hence why you need to set up on their site using ur google account?
@@brandonchappell1535 using the first-party tailscale service, yes they control the coordination servers and relays, but generally it can establish a direct link between nodes (which you can verify by monitoring your network traffic). traffic bw devices is encrypted so relays can't inspect it and the client code is open source so you can verify the encryption. and finally you can also self-host coordination/relay using headscale, it's open source, not 100% full-featured but good enough for most homelabs.
That's just for authenticating to their coordination server which you can self host with headscale. No traffic goes through their servers as long as devices can have a direct connection to each other. They do have relay servers to handle the rare cases where a direct connection is not possible, but everything is still end to end encrypted with wireguard anyway.
@@DarkSedushi oh right, i did briefly look at headscale but seemed above my paygrade haha i love being able to tunnel in an its like being home. Helps with my double nat with plex too, i love it
Looking forward to the new bling next week by the sounds of it.
Backed for two. The only feature I really wish they had added would be the ability to insert a micro SD card to extend the memory. I'm going to ship one to my Dad, so I can support him trying to brick his computer every few months.
Hm. If I'm reading this correctly, it doesn't have power management in the base package, so it would be relying on shaking the mouse to wake, for example, or power management from the OS. Great for what it is, but I'd need native power management for my use case. I wish the project every success.
Beyond the great hardware review I gotta shoutout that Odyssey Class (Enterprise-F?) wallpaper! Frelling love that ship design
I've been looking for this! Just backed the project!
Is there a way to power the device independently of the host? I haven’t encountered many systems that keep usb power up through a reboot.
Also agree with others that this has limited use without the ability to “push the power button”.
WOL.. for the power button push... and there's always OTG data/power cables
@@chilexican WOL is of no use to force a restart
I think there are Y cables that connect data lines and allow external power
I have a pdu with remote power control. You could use a cheap iot plug to do the same after setting your pc to always power on.
So I wonder if this would work by connecting it to, lets say, a 8 ports KVM switch and if the switch itself supports CTRL+# to switch between servers. I know this works with PI-KVM. This thing should technically be able to as well right?
Only if the KVM switch allows connecting video, keyboard, and drives through a single HDMI connection. Most stand-alone KVM switches expect input to be a keyboard and mouse through USB and output video by HDMI or other connector. Often the HDMI isn't participating in the switched USB hub in the KVM, but there are too many on the market for me to say categorically, you'll have to test it. It's certainly possible.
I asked them on the Kickstarter if they could confirm its working in this configuration, since the Pi-KVM for example was found to not work with certain KVM switches but did work with others.
They said they can’t confirm that at this time. So, take that as you will. I’m personally not counting on it too deeply, but still hope it’ll work.
For what it’s worth, there are third party PI-kvm + normal KVM all in one / rack mount solutions in the $200-240 range for 4 ports. Which works out to just a bit cheaper in theory than a single jet-KVM per port, but not by much. It’s also not that far off from the cost of just a good 4 port KvM switch anyway (around $120 last I saw). So that may be a good alternative for you
@@guhak I thought about the KVM switch idea, but these are cheap enough that it would be nice to have one for each device and have multiple screens going.
This is perfect timing. I am building another server to send to my parents home as a BDR and second plex server but needed to ensure I had a way to troubleshoot without having them send it to me. I am setting it up with either WARP or TwinGate. I have both setup, just not sure which I should use.
Sweet. I've wanted a KVM for a while now, but at $69 (ok $103cnd) it's still a steal of a deal. Trigger pulled!
for 69 clams, this is perfect. I'm digging the option to use Google for SSO. and would make things 9000% better for me
AWESOME Video Jeff !!
I'm a bit confused how do you power the host computer if its off? don't you need the KVM connected to the host system panel connector power switch?
The kickstarter provides a few different expansion options including an ATX breakout board that would do as you described.
I'm thinking perhaps PoE? You could use a USB-C hub/dock that adds power. Though it's so small it could run off a series of coin cell batteries if it wasn't getting power via USB.
many host computers have bios options to leave USB power on when turned off (used to allow "wake with keyboard" functionality)
most modern PSU can deliver 5V when the PC is off, might need to turn on/off a setting in bios though regarding power save measurements s4 s5 etc
I just set up a Linux server last month at my in-law’s house in Japan to capture broadcast TV and use as a VPN. I would have set one of these up if I had one. Gonna pick one up to play with.
Not including the ATX power, but being sold as an add-on (that is not priced yet) will make this option a lot more expensive. There are other PiKVM hardware solutions out there that cost a lot less than "the original" and that comes with ATX power ... Soo the hole "it's only 69$" falls apart, when you need to pay more to get the same basis functions other PiKVM based options has standard for just a few bucks more.
$10 is not really 'a lot more expensive'...
@@LarsBerntropBos yes it is based on its competitors that do more for less money
@@CGGC0202less than $79? link plz
@@CGGC0202 If someone is griping over $10, they cant afford computing as a hobby or business. Especially when alternatives cost $200+.
What is that microphone that you're using, bro? Your voice is so clear.
Mini HDMI is rough, way less robust and means you have to have the cables which are much less likely to just be around. Given the NanoKVM managed to fit a full-size HDMI port, I feel like this could have, any slightly bigger size would have been worth it.
Yeah. Bit odd design choice. I would think normal HDMI would be actually the cheaper option component wise. I most certainly wouldn't give a damn about bit larger device, even with same display as it appears to show everything needed.
Not saying a mini HDMI can't fail, but never had an issue. I have a mini HDMI to full HDMI cable that just works every time. Don't let your toddler use it and you'll be fine.
My KVM has reinforced PS/2 and VGA ports, with a big knob that makes a satisfying "clunk" sound when switching outputs.
That knob weighs more than the JetKVM though :-D
How much is it when you include in the out of band power management?
Sold! Thanks Jeff!
I backed the kickstarter, I do wish they gave you some of the accessories. Specifically the DC barrel adaptor….
I do think they did missed an opportunity not including PoE or a second usb port for alternate power
I specifically want to be able to control my mini PC proxmox nodes with this but I’m not sure yet how that adaptor is going to function
Thanks for calling attention to this. Really looks useful. I decided to back the project to get one and some of the add-ons as well.
I really like this device for being compact, easy to use and with a nice interface. The only thing I would like to see is a second USB port for power input so it's not reliant on the PC that it's controlling, PoE would be a sweet addition as well. Maybe with time we may see some VPN addons as well so it can be completely standalone?
Hi, thanks for the video. U are showing the KVM solution hooked up to a Intel Platform. Why not enable Intel AMT and use that for remote management? Has it less features than KVM?
Hear me out
a 16 port PKVMoE
A 1U KVM with a 900w PSU
A 10G uplink and internal 1G switch
and what equates to 16 USB-C docks supplying up to 90w of power and gigabit ethernet to devices(if all devices are connected and powered only supply 65w but supply 90w during boot)
At work I have ~500 laptops to manage and because of the way people use them, i often have to re-image them once a year, i also order around 100 desktops/year for rotation and most of these at least have USB-C many of them can be powered by it(still waiting for Lenovo to include USB-C power for their Tiny, sure most of them go into their Tiny in One, its still a nice feature)
But also i have mini PCs in my home lab and this would not only clean up my rack from all the network and KVM cables from my big servers, but would also eliminate the 2 rack shelves of power bricks for the mini PCs
Ok consider me a newborn computer user as fare as knowledge goes please. So if I get this right this unit can be hooked to my home computer Windows 11 Pro and will give me the ability to not only access my entire computer from WAN but I can also start and login to my computer if away from home?
omg this is exactly what I need,
The ISO streaming feature is the only thing I miss in my Sipeed NanoKVM. But, to be fair, $70 is what I paid for 3 of them, so there's not much I can complain about here.
I would love one of these but for USB4/Thunderbolt, that can use the USB-C for inputs, video and power.
This is sweet so I don't have to worry about graphics cards issues. Plus remote desktop doesn't like to open drives like CD or DVD. So I can do this on a fly to rip CDs while I am connected to my main PC
I need a microsd or USB drive with MY ISO files in JetKVM
I can think of one more thing I could ask for. Being able to connect this one KVM to multiple machines. So I can access the KVM and then choose which server I want to access and control. But I guess I could just buy 3 of them for now 😅
Good, but no VGA. On a traditional, as in expensive solution, adding a VGA to HDMI converter is nothing, however at this price point it adds quite a bit, both in cost and size (many converters are bigger than this)
So there is definitely a market for a native VGA version.
Hey Jeff, have you ever used a Raritan branded KVM? I used them frequently at work and really enjoyed using it. They are a bit spendy, but are amazing to use if you can get them cheaper. I have a personal one (DKX3-808) that I snagged recently for cheap and if you want to test it for a vid I would be able to send it your way temporarily. I am not sure if you do these kind of things but I thought I would at least offer since you have been doing KVM videos. I thought it might be interesting to show what KVMs are used in enterprise environments. If this is outside of your norms, it's no big deal.
This can't be used in any enterprise space, but it's a neat little solution for DIY folk.
If it uses UDP 3478 for WebRTC and can't be changed you can throw any Unifi networks out of the window. Just found this out as they use that port for the adoption services of their devices. I was wrecking my brain for months trying to figure out why I couldn't use rpc protocols through my STUN / TURN environment.
You might be able to make use of SNAT for outbound.
Please explain this a little more. I’m running all UniFi gear. What kind of problems am I looking at?
i am so buying one right now as some one who is the tec support for my family. i dont know how many times i have dropped what ever was doing to go to my parent/sister or my grandparents house to just reboot the pc/ remote into it for 5min of work. atlest 2/3 house holds if i gave them one with basic instructions on how to connect it to said device and or just have it plugged in all the time and set up save me 30-40min drive round trip each time
If there is support for switching the TESmart multiport KVM unit like there is on PiKVM then I am all in on this.
So many use cases for this and such an affordable option
Waiting on my Openterface Mini-KVM to ship once available. I like this device, but would prefer VGA functionality for my servers.
Aren't that completely different things (KVM-over-USB vs KVM-over-IP)?
@@salat yeah true.
Do reviewers get the dc extension or the atx extension? Would be really interested to see those extensions.
Thought it was an Apple Watch sitting on the case. 😂
I almost used the line "this is like if Apple designed a KVM". The aluminum and OLED/Curved glass aesthetic is 100% on brand.
managed to get 996/1000 of the single pledge...
hope it works as good as it seems.
thx for sharing, jeff
This would also be a good tool for travelling admin for headless (or failed monitor/KB) "client" PCs, with the network going directly to our laptop; replacing things like Nexdocks or GPD Pocket 3 (as both are "unproductive" to be carried in a trip without a laptop).
The always-on USB port seems like a hang-up to me.
Does this come with a mini HDMI cable? I don't have any HDMI cables with a mini-connector. To bad it couldn't use a standard HDMI connector or DisplayPort.
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Sounds like a really great device, though I do wish they could have it powered via PoE. It could then be a good solution for people wanting to obtain a much cheaper alternative to the BliKVM.
And its so tiny I could ship it to remote offices for easy TS, just 3 connections!
Cab you please explain more on captive VPN portal to self host the remote KVM solution?
This looks really freaking handy for a reasonable price.
Ez backing. Need a few of these type of devices, but not at $200 a piece. Good price point, seems worth.
This looks interesting and it would certainly be a solution to a problem that I have. I am a little leery about Kickstarter projects. That I think I'm definitely going to pack this one. Only problem is, I may have run out of ethernet in the location where I would like to use this device.
Oohhh, looks gooooood!
Nice review
So you cant use the the JetKVM with a Server that has no GPU, can you?
Im running a server with an R9 3950X and a Tesla P40 - so completely headless...
there is no GPU on board
Correct. Video output is still a requirement on the server.
You could, however, get something like the ASRock Rack M.2 VGA card.
Too bad they didn't also support a USB display device with the other virtual devices, then it could also just be one USB cord and Ethernet since this also won't work with plain-old-VGA and none of my servers have HDMI.
Well-built device - OK, nice, but how practical are all the case shapes of the different devices?
In a rack, in a professional environment with multiple KVMs, I think only devices as plug-in cards or as 1U rack mounts make sense. Otherwise you end up attaching all the little boxes with Velcro.
For use outside of a rack, a cuboid shape with screw options on several sides might be a good idea so that the KVM can be attached in different ways, and it shouldn't be too small for that either. An alternative would be the plug-in card, again, but there has to be space for it.
This JetKVM looks so stylish, as if it should be used all the time instead of gathering dust behind the computer because the computer is remotely operated and controlled. It looks more like an alarm clock or status display.
So excited to see these hitting the market
We're just missing PoE!!! Would have happily paid extra for that!
im not sure if i miss it but can it be connected to a KVM switch? So one jetkvm for multiple machines?
Is there a Country of Origin mentioned anywhere on the product or box?
What is the likelihood this makes it market, as in past the crowdfunding and into full on production. I dont do crowdfunding so this would have to make it to market for me to buy one, definitely interested if that is the case.
How does it power on the computer though?
I assume it turns on via wake on lan.
To do that, you need an add-on that attaches to the RJ11 extension port (according to their website)
That's the question I was wondering too.
I would ask for IEC C13/C14 or 5-20R passthrough so that power could also be brute-forced without a managed PDU, and jumper wires for reset and power switches, to round out all the features of normal IPMI.
Those jumper wires are done well on the NanoKVM: they are in parallel with the stock power/reset/hdd-led wires so not only do you have power/reset control: even drive activity shows in the web console. Sometimes, especially during installs, it's nice to know the remote system is 'doing something' when it may otherwise appear to be idle or locked up.
Craft Computing very interesting! Question… is this something that’d work well for graphics editing on a remote Windows PC? I am about 95% converted to running Linux. There are just a handful of pesky Windows programs that I find hard to live without.
Looks nice, but... would rather have a "lower cost" option. Sleek case and screen add to BOM wo/ any real benefit that cheaper options wouldn't have. External power and power/reset connections should have been default not optional. Feels more of a "remote help" for "regular users" than "remote access" for "power users".
The piKVM v4 also has a "download ISO from URL" option.
Can you power on the system that is completely powered off? (e.g. cold start)?
If you can find a USB-C power and data splitter, then yes, you probably can.
@@fujinshu
How do you send the ACPI power signal to the motherboard over USB-C/data splitter?
@@ewenchan1239 You don’t. There’s another RJ11 port for that, which carries ACPI/ATX signals.
So yes, if you have the RJ11 adapter and the USB-C power and data splitter, then yes, you can power on the PC from a cold start.
@@fujinshu
So...I'm confused.
You'd send the power on command via the web UI over RJ45 which then goes over to the RJ11, which then has a data splitter and then where you plug the data splitter on the target system???
Like with the Pi-KVM and its distant cousin, the BliKVM, you are ACTUALLY interrupting the physical power header, on the motherboard.
So, where are you going to be plugging the data splitter on your target system?
@@ewenchan1239 No. The USB-C should have a power and data splitter, so you plug the data end into your computer, and the power end to another power source, so that the JetKVM doesn’t need to rely on the computer being always on, which defeats the purpose of an ipkvm anyway if it’s just always on.
The RJ11 port, as Jeff described, is a port that carries the relevant ATX power signals through that port. So you can plug in the relevant jumper wires to another board that then connects to the JetKVM via the RJ11 port.
Maybe rewatch the video to see if it addresses your confusion.
Wow, that is clever.
Bloody perfect. Pledged!
I've worked with servers and sever class motherboards for many years and with that I've also used a lot of IPMI solutions. And the KVM part talked about here isn't actually a part of IPMI.
Intelligent Platform Management Interface is really a function to provide data about the hardware to a remote client. This works by having a small computer, often a SOC, that monitors a network port and answers instructions by sending response in clear text format. This system contains a lot of information about the motherboard and it status such as temperatures, fans speeds, serial number, power status. It can turn a computer on or off through a soft or hard stop, reset CMOS (clear BIOS) and transmit and receive serial data so you can attach a serial terminal perfect for handling UNIX or other *NIX OS but not much use for a windows machine or other GUI based operating systems. It can also report information about the components attached and things like case, drive bays and so on provided it has been defined by the manufacturer. As for ability to take control over the machine it's limited to serial data so you can send and receive data as if you had a serial cable connected. This is fine for maintaining a Unix machine or one using any number of *NIX based operating systems but usually pretty useless for something with a GUI such as Windows.
But the KVM over IP is not a part of the standard. It is however something that server manufacturers has implemented, usually by having the BMC host a web server and having it serve pages showing all the relevant data and also a java based client able to handle the KVM and remote media parts. This web server and the functions it provides is not part of the IPMI standard and works a bit differently for all the companies providing these BMC solutions.
So KVM over IP is not a IPMI function. Doesn't mean it's not a good thing, but it's not a part of IPMI.
I need a KVM that has 4 ports with VGA or DisplayPort inputs, that can output to a monitor for the office and also be connected to over the network for remote use. 1u rack mountable. It's crazy this doesn't exist.
Can you power on a computer with it?
Let's say your computer doesn't have an always on USB port. What do you suggest to use for that so that it stays powered while the system is off?
I'd venture to guess a powered usb hub. Yep, more gadgets to hook up and more wires sticking out the back.
what if i don't have usb ports that are powered all the time? some option to use an external power adapter or something?
Wireguard support?
What about Power Buttons and LED status lights? You mentioned an plug for expansion, but never said more.
Asking the important question: Where does one get that Star Trek-based wallpaper? :)
"It's just $69.....nice". Very nice indeed if it lives up to expectations.
Add $19 shipping cost
Exciting device hope V2 has poe to power it though would make it a lot more useful ( it's very useful as it is though )
Honestly I'd be fine with the ditching the screen if we could get PoE support instead.
Can you install tailscale on it?
Just forgot to say it cannot be purchased now on the title, right?
You say you’re Jeff, so I say “Hi Jeff👋”
how do you control the power switch / reset via usb?
Love the hat!
Would have rather seen it powered via PoE than the USB port. It is much easier to add a PoE injector than to try and find a way to get the USB port to be always on if the device doesn't have one. Hopefully they consider this and make a version that is PoE powered.
No wifi? I am using pi zero 2w and it will load pikvm with my pre-defined ssid (which I can use with my mobile setting it up when needed). And will also connected to my wireguard vpn so that I can access it via my home network (or remotely).
I do the same. I would really love a case that could house the pi + hdmi interface + small OLED for this.
@@tgwaste small oled is a nice to have but it should goes well if proper ssid / vpn being configured correctly. If not, there is nothing to do even with oled. A case would impose extra weight, so unless it fits really well. The JetKVM seems nice if it is going to opensource, but without wifi, it is a dead end.