Another Good video. My thoughts on Chroma is that most of his the reason he's so bad is because his kit also isn't cohesive, you can run him as a 2 ability Frame and even his augments are so bad even if you add them into his base hit he wouldn't really be that much better (Apart from the 2 and 3). Passive: Just Add the credit boost ability from his fourth and make it as a part of regular passive and keep the triple jump cause it doesn't hurt. Spectral Scream: Keep the melee only aspect I kinda like it as a melee tank frame but the element effects need to be adjusted and be on theme with his 2 and 3) Fire - Heals Chroma for a %damage dealt - Since the fire focus is health tanking Ice - Enemies hit are stripped of their armor Electric - Stripe enemies of their shield and recharges yours Poison - Increase weapon Damage against enemies. Also Each Effect should last individually and with duration similar to Jades 2. Now he has a more interactive kit where you'll be cycling through his abilities more often to stack effects. 2) Keep as is 3) Keep as is but the heat and poison stuff need to be fixed. 4) Increase the base range for the Cloaks attack AND make it so that it draws enemy aggro with a higher priority similarly to priority similar to Loki's Decoy. Naked Chrome should also have a dodge chance and increase weapon attack speeds
Like your suggestions a lot! for his 4 I would like it it could attack all targets in the radius, and then also maybe an augment giving him overguard for each enemy hit by it? You spectral scream changes sound great aswell, and if you are channeling his one and change the element mid channel it changes while channeling also like jades auras
Chroma´s first should imbue the element selected on the equiped weapons WITHOUT combining, pure element. That would be great. Obviosly with base damage imbue and increased by his dmg boosts.
The funny thing is that as great as that would be, it would still be worse than Lavos‘ new augment. That one combines and has forced procs of the infused element. For instance you can infuse heat into a cold weapon which will therefor proc blast, but it will also proc heat on every hit! And he can even create combined elements.
@@mauro2396 I was purely thinking in terms of elemental buffs ^^‘ because you can build Lavos for that exclusively if you want to. Blast infusion is nothing short of ridiculous! But yea, they aren‘t really comparable aside from that. Sorry for the confusion; I was trying to express support of the idea by comparing how it would not be overpowered or „too much“ xP
I WAS JUST THINKING THAT! What if his 1 is still cycle-able but now instead of damage it just literally is the augment from frost, saryn, ember, and volt’s 1st abilities since u know… they are all used in his construction
Replacing Grace with Arcane Battery is an option with the amount of armor you can put on chroma...Im testing dropping flow completely and replacing with augur secrets. Also, and I know this doesnt matter, but Auto-melee works during spectral scream.
U can boost toxin aura with green shards btw, together with contagious bond, mecha en sickening pulse it works quite well, only sucks that it doesnt scale with range
Hot take, but in my opinion, chroma can be reaally good for a beginner, just because hes simple to understand and the goals to build him up are simple aswell, maybe not as simple as something like inaros or revenant, but he can damn well push you super smoothly into steel path with some investment and 3-4 braincells. Usually in the early game your weaponry isnt usually... perfect... but chroma can DEFINITELY give it a good push it needs to preform well in higher levels, though steel path will probably need a slight bit of investment more than steel path. Tdlr, give the man a form of sustain, strength, and okay effeciency and your basically fine for sp (THOUGH REVENANT IS DEFINITELY 3 MILLION TIMES BETTER FOR THIS LOLOLOLOL)
Yea chroma is great for beginners, since he just gives damage you might be lacking in early levels, just need a bit of tankyness and efficiency as you said xD
i think a cool idea for his 4 would be an exalted flame thrower similar to the ignis, in the form of dragon breath. overall i think his kit could get a total rework
I myself enjoy Chroma nowadays quite a bunch - even though he is a kinda Niche pick. For the most part i ran him you showed him here. But couple days ago discovered the Interaction of: Arcane Battery + Avenger + Quick Thinking. And i freaking love the concept of just not dying cause my Energy pool is Huge - ill sustain Health -> Which turns into Energy -> Cycle continues. Its basicly what Chroma does - Be Tanky - Crap out Tons of Dmg Buff's - and just.. exist xD. keep it up =) !
I have an idea to rework the worst two parts of Chroma's kit that might make him a bit better. Redo the Passive so that he gets +25% ability damage per status type effecting the target. Good, but not overpowered working like Condition Overload but for abilities (of which Chroma doesn't have too many damage dealing abilities anyway, it'd mostly be a buff to Chroma's Vex Armor but eh it's better than the pointless passive he has now.) For the Breath, they could rework it so that different types of breath do different things. Ice breath would put an icy mist around enemies damaged, slowing them but not dealing damage. Poison Breath would cause Cysts to start growing on enemies, and once a Cyst reaches full size it would pop and deal Gas status in a small radius. Flame Breath would drop patches of molten fire on the ground below damaged enemies. Electric Breath would siphon enemies Shields and Health to restore Chroma's own.
I figured that passive would make sense and fit more into Chroma's whole design, since he seems based off a Chromatic Dragon from D&D. That would also put some benefit into switching to different elemental types rather than just sitting on Frost or Fire the whole time.
I replaced his 1 with Ophaium Eyes, and I absolutely love it, along with Arcane Battery so no need for flow, more than enough energy to recast his 2 & 3 along with Ophaium Eyes, I now use him for everything
Helminth. Its a part of your ship but you need to do a lot of story quests and bounties deimous standing bounties to get to that point so i wouldnt worry about it yet. Get yourself a cohesive well balanced frame like Harrow, Gauss or something and then you dont need to feel out of place with no helminth @kennyb3509
Chroma has a serious bug at the moment where if you subsume over his 1, you won't be able to use any element other than heat in pugs, unless you are hosting. The color choice doesn't make any difference. Really hope this gets fixed soon, but it would be good to put in as a disclaimer somewhere.
I wouldn’t mind them replacing his first ability with a moddable exalted weapon. His seconds should be a timed duration instead of channeled and the augmented to make it follow Chroma.
You cant compare chroma's first ability to the furis, almost nothing stands to that dps its not fair 😂 i've done more damage with 1 heat proc than i've done with chroma's "damage" abilities collectively
Apply arcane battery and quickthinking, energy applies your armor for 5k health to make full use of nourish energy economy. Then put rage or hunters adrenaline then combat discipline since energy is your real health.
@@JunkyardGod and to know about not running base damage mods on weapons he uses since his ability counts as adding a powerful serration instead of the old multiplier?
my chroma uses toxin, it’s because of my melee, it procs 7 vex Toxin status effects so enemies die instantly from one hit. and it’s good against acholites or archon hunt
The last augment is great use quickthinking and arcane battery. You will get 1.8k energy pool which is worth over 5k health and armor applies to energy lethal damage. Then go combat discipline and the augment with hunters adrenaline then equip tennet glaxion with energy augment and xoris and youre all set.
@@morning8590 mmm yes but it's a game and I plan to have fun, most of the games playtime is in the mid game, also for throwing glaives the game actually double dips in his buff so you can use the xoris with the new elemental mod, and if you get the relic buff you can get even more insane when you keep it up. The glaxion slow applies on the thrax very well. He's a very calm frame to just farm Lua for relics steel essence and Lua thrax plasm at the same time. I use a foot pedal to do heavy charge throw and detonate and the middle pedal for casting 3
I know this is late but im relatively new to the game and want to use Chroma since he just looks cool. Does the melee weapon strictly have to be Dual Ichor or would i be able to use something different?
Hes always dependable. I been playing since 2014 but im the type that gets burned out easily on the grind. So i remain in the Mr 18-19 range and have a select few frames with mid-tier low investment builds i use to hang with my more grind focused friends. Chroma is next to Excal exalted blade spam on that list of stuff i use to turn my brain off and do decent numbers without needing to invest a ton of forma or mod grind or even trade chat lol. Im an exceptionally lazy player
The multiplicative damage and armor was turned into additive a long time ago when he was nerfed for soloing eidolons abd profit takers I miss the old chroma he used to be more tankier and he used to do more damage but that is no gone
I really love the idea of Elemental Ward and Vexing Retaliation; but its all just so bad. I would honestly prefer it if they removed the elemental and turret and focused on the aura and dragon instead! Maybe a roar with knockdown and debuffs would work for a 4.
They should make his first abilitiy into an exalted weapon of sorts and have his 4th ability turn him into a dragon, im basing this off hildryn where in her 4th sh flies and has her exalted weapon
I just thought of a possible rework on his 4/1 to make him feel more dragon-y: instead of shedding your dragon skin, turn INTO the dragon and essentially act like a non-shrunk titania, using the trigger button to breath elemental fire and alt-firing to cast the stun scream. Not sure what to replace 1 with though. This a good fix?
I kinda wish his 4 made him like aatrox from league, some minor flight abilities. Maybe an exalted, just make one of his abilities make him feel like a true dragon. Kinda wish his 1 was a channeled ability, and you'd spew breath constantly while doing other actions. Give it a tiny drain so it could actually be used for awhile. Anyone else have ideas for a rework?
I get it, but Chroma is insane. Just have to figure him out. DPS AND KPS are through the roof. Movement is great, and his passive enhances parkour. You can max out the buffs from his 2 & 3 almost instantly. No augment needed. Helminth his 4 or 1 with an ability that works and run every mission.
@joystickjutsu1576 I'm currently building him out to be insane. I had a question about helminth his 1? If I do so, what element will I be on by default. Will it instead be based on my emission element?
IIRC the damage buff is still multiplicative with either thrown meele or thrown meele explosion so that is probably the way I'd play him. All in all I rate Chroma as more fun to play than Revenant (think of that what you will).
When you say Vex armor isn't multiplicative anymore do you mean fury no longer gives a multiplicative damage bonus to glaives and (apparently, haven't tested) weapons with multiplicative CO? If that's true it's a huge nerf and isn't on the wiki patch note history.
Chroma rn is weird and bland. I’m a chroma main and have hundreds of hours on him so I have noticed the small details in his gameplay and playability. 1. Chroma is supposed to be the DRAGON warframe but his abilities make him a SUPPORT CLASS! Everyone tries to use him for dmg (and it does work because of his 3) but his abilities buff everyone and 3 of his skills buff/aid the team. 2nd has a buff per element, 3 has a raw dmg/armor buff, and 4 is just used for money. 2. His passive SUCKS, he was a older frame so I guess that DE wanted to make him “balanced” but come on, an extra jump and bullet jump is one of the lamest passives I have ever seen! Doesn’t effect enemies, looting, or teamwork. It’s just a little more movement! And it doesn’t even effect his actual character abilities, like gauss has a passive that is used with his skills, Kullvero has a passive that directly affects his combat by aiding with crits, and mag has a larger loot gathering range. There passives make sense and aid there gameplay. 3. Chroma has the least visual effects to his abilities in the game. 1st ability has barely any effect besides some color and a slight effect to show the elements, 2. Is even worse then 1 because it’s a smaller aura and only on/around the feet of your body, 3 IS EVEN WORSE THEN THAT! No effect, no aura, just a small color (that is so hard to see you can barely notice it when playing) go up and down your body, 4 is the most flashy of his abilities (which isn’t saying much) and it has the ability 1 as its main attack/effect, large wings (even bigger and more detailed in prime), and occasionally does a roar/burst. Visually it’s good but gameplay wise… Let’s just say I use my 4 more for the speed boost then it’s actual perpose. Theme/synergy His ability’s DO NOT COMPLEMENT EACHOTHER. And his abilities don’t fit his “draconian theme” either, 2 of them basically have nothing to do with dragons (2 and 3) and his 1 (bread and butter of dragon kind) is worse then your primary flame thrower! Less range with terrible damage, “but what about the 100% status proc”? It’s tick dmg is so slow I can proc more status with my revolver + 1. Only can proc 1 element at a time. Then there is the 4… honestly being able to bring forth a dragon is awesome! IF IT COULD KILL ANYTHING!!!! It’s dmg is so bad that having it in the 4 slot is a tragedy. wisp has a death ray from the sun as her 4th, excalibur has a light saber that can shoot projectiles, kullvero summons a knife rain that can even make pin head go 🫦! Even rhino who also doesn’t have many visual effect abilities still is fun to use because his abilities Synergize so well. Hell he is a tank frame that (canonically) has a stomp so strong it disrupts the FLOW OF TIME WITH NOTHING BUT RAW PHYSICAL STRENGTH!!!!! But chroma… his 4th is just a flashy sentry. I played a defense mission a while ago and my only use was to stand in the middle of the field and let my allies get the defense buff and dmg buff(his vex armor mod makes it so I heal and get a longer duration the more enemies die(allies kills count to the mod effect)) I felt like a mobile totem pole. Chroma need some serious work. Even if vex armor gets replaced I think it’s the price to pay for Chroma to FINALLY GET THE RECOGNITION HE DESERVES. CHROMA IS A DRAGON FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! I WANT TO FEEL LIKE IM PLAYING A DRAGON WARFRAME NOT A LUCIO KNOCK OFF!!!!! If I were to recommend a rework it would be a complete change. Passive: chroma now has 4 bars and one draconic symbol above those 4 bars. Each bar is an element (fire, ice, poison, lightning) and using your skills with the element equipped will fill each bar (you must hit your enemies to fill the bar, the more hit the more meter you gain) 1. This ability will be the element swap skill. Tap to swap and hold to use the skill. This ability is chargeable, each element has a different effect: Fire, launch a fireball that goes through enemies and if it hits a wall/serface it will explode(longer the charge the larger the fireball and the more damage) Ice: freeze the ground around you and anyone inside your range will get cold proc (if used in air it will do a ground slam that will have more dmg but in a smaller aoe)(longer the charge, bigger the aoe and cold procs) (can freeze the ground for a short time to make enemies who where not in range slowed if they walk on it) Poison: create an acidic toxin cloud/fog(looks like acid rain) that blinds enemies and strips armor, cloud follows you. (Allies who were in range get a smaller cloud for a short duration)(longer the charge the longer the more severe the effects and larger aoe) Lightning: perform a lightning tackle in the direction your aiming (if used in air you perform multiple (shorter) jolts until aiming at the ground where you slam into the floor with an aoe shock) (gets a speed boost for a short time after use) (the larger the charge the longer the distance travelled and the stronger the buff) 2. You use some of the meter you have built up to perform a strong attack Fire: blast a moderate size area around you in a aoe of fire(force proc fire and any allies in range get a health buff) Ice: blast a moderate size area around you in a aoe of ice mist( freezing enemies ranged weapons for a short time and buffing ally’s with increased armor and shield) Poison: blast a moderate size area around you with a aoe of toxins( enemies in range get disoriented and can’t tell right from left and friend from foe, allies in range get a buff to their weapons with a toxic substance(get poison effect)) Lightning: release a aoe of an electric pulse in a moderate size range around you( enemies get force proc electricity, and allies in range get a speed boost to movment and weapons for a short time) 3. The draconic breath, has a long range and good dmg but it drains your element meter massively. Tap to do a small burst and hold to increase duration. Dmg depends on the element used and procs status of said element. No special gimmicks just a dragon’s breath. 4. Now this is where things get good. You transform into a larger version of yourself but with a different appearance( slouching appearance with elemental wings sticking out your back, larger build( arms and legs are wider and your torso is bigger), you now have a tail (purely cosmetic), and your head is now more shaped like a dragon (depending on the cosmetic head you picked will determine your head shape and appearance (example: dynasty cosmetic will have a more metallic look/ looks like a knight) In this state you can’t use any of your weapons, you can only use your melee (hands) to attack, you drain meter while in this state but your other skills won’t. Your jump gets changed so you can’t double jump or bullet jump anymore but you do get one higher jump instead and a longer dash. Depending on the element used will determine what form you take (fire form will have small flames erupting from your body), (ice will have icicles sticking up and around your body), (poison will have a mist effect around your body), (and lightning will have bolts shooting from your body and off your horns(will also jump to any nearby surfaces)). However there is a 5th and most powerful form (remember the draconian symbol I mentioned when talking about his passive) when all elemental bars are filled to the max you can enter a 5th form where your power is at it’s peak. (More dmg, larger aoe, more armor and shield) This state is very powerful but it comes at a cost, in this stat your meter drains even faster then a normal tranformation, so use it wisely. Your appearance is now not of any element but now is of a white light with a holy glow, light beams shoot out of you and you get more of a divine aura. Oh i forgot. Your moves change when you transform. 1. Fire( Fireball now becomes hellfire as you set anything and everything alight, your skill now a tap skill using max charge as a default)(leaves a flame trail and doubles fire procs) Ice: freezing the ground now changes to a ice tomb as you reduce everything to absolute zero(larger aoe and double ice procs) (now becomes a tap skill with max charge as default) Poison: acid cloud becomes acid storm as nothing lives through this spell( enemies now get a cloud following them doing constant damage and spread it to other enemies) (now becomes a tap skill with max charge as default) Lightning: lightning tackle now becomes a lightning charge as you stampeded through enemies on all fours with full force( enemies hit get double lightning force proc and get disarmed) (skill now becomes a tap skill with max charge as default) 5th form (let’s call it nova or holy for now) Skill sommons a star that when hitting a surface explodes causing large amounts of damage pushing enemies away before collapsing forming a black hole which pulls enemies back in and any other enemy’s who get in range. 2nd skill gets completely changed, you now dawn elemental claws that give a elemental effect to your melee hits and has a second effect. Fire. Leave scorched earth on the ground where you swing( effect stays with the length of your transformation), enemies who stand in it get burned Ice. Leave the ground frozen wherever you swing (effect stays for the length of your transformation), slowing enemies who stand on it. Poison. Leave puddles of poison wherever you swing(effect stays for the length of your transformation), confusing enemies who stand in the puddles. Lightning. Chain lightning to nearby enemies for better crowd control Nova/Holy. Send stardust wherever you swing as a projectile. Dealing extra damage and disarming enemies hit. 3rd skill stays the same but gains a slightly wider aoe and slightly longer range with more dmg and double status proc. Nova/Holy creates a star at the front of your mouth before collapsing it to launch a concentrated beam of solar radiation. Incinerating your foes in one big blast.
@@novAviator01 Yea I saw that build, and if he did it already, very little use in me just ripping and shipping it, so give that video a watch for a cool alternative that works well, everyone has battery fever atm lol arcane battery doesn't tickle my fancy to much though, my video was more just to give a detailed explanation on chroma with a build that works very well :)
Another Good video. My thoughts on Chroma is that most of his the reason he's so bad is because his kit also isn't cohesive, you can run him as a 2 ability Frame and even his augments are so bad even if you add them into his base hit he wouldn't really be that much better (Apart from the 2 and 3).
Passive: Just Add the credit boost ability from his fourth and make it as a part of regular passive and keep the triple jump cause it doesn't hurt.
Spectral Scream:
Keep the melee only aspect I kinda like it as a melee tank frame but the element effects need to be adjusted and be on theme with his 2 and 3)
Fire - Heals Chroma for a %damage dealt - Since the fire focus is health tanking
Ice - Enemies hit are stripped of their armor
Electric - Stripe enemies of their shield and recharges yours
Poison - Increase weapon Damage against enemies.
Also Each Effect should last individually and with duration similar to Jades 2.
Now he has a more interactive kit where you'll be cycling through his abilities more often to stack effects.
2) Keep as is
3) Keep as is but the heat and poison stuff need to be fixed.
4) Increase the base range for the Cloaks attack AND make it so that it draws enemy aggro with a higher priority similarly to priority similar to Loki's Decoy. Naked Chrome should also have a dodge chance and increase weapon attack speeds
Like your suggestions a lot! for his 4 I would like it it could attack all targets in the radius, and then also maybe an augment giving him overguard for each enemy hit by it?
You spectral scream changes sound great aswell, and if you are channeling his one and change the element mid channel it changes while channeling also like jades auras
His 4 should be like sevagoths shadow
Dear god are my eyes deceiving me or is that a chroma build outside the profit taker boss fight
Chroma´s first should imbue the element selected on the equiped weapons WITHOUT combining, pure element. That would be great. Obviosly with base damage imbue and increased by his dmg boosts.
As a seperate instance like saryn's toxic lash? yes THAT would be amazing!
The funny thing is that as great as that would be, it would still be worse than Lavos‘ new augment.
That one combines and has forced procs of the infused element. For instance you can infuse heat into a cold weapon which will therefor proc blast, but it will also proc heat on every hit! And he can even create combined elements.
@@mayhemivory5730 not sure, remember chroma has 2 damage buffing skills... i dont find a good point of comparison between chroma and lavos.
@@mauro2396 I was purely thinking in terms of elemental buffs ^^‘ because you can build Lavos for that exclusively if you want to. Blast infusion is nothing short of ridiculous!
But yea, they aren‘t really comparable aside from that.
Sorry for the confusion; I was trying to express support of the idea by comparing how it would not be overpowered or „too much“ xP
I WAS JUST THINKING THAT! What if his 1 is still cycle-able but now instead of damage it just literally is the augment from frost, saryn, ember, and volt’s 1st abilities since u know… they are all used in his construction
i cant stand chroma but i watched the vid fully cuz i vibe with u mans cant wait for you to start streaming
pretty good video; knew nothing about chroma coming in, left feeling like master oogway
Dragon hoodie 👌
This was spot on
Replacing Grace with Arcane Battery is an option with the amount of armor you can put on chroma...Im testing dropping flow completely and replacing with augur secrets. Also, and I know this doesnt matter, but Auto-melee works during spectral scream.
U can boost toxin aura with green shards btw, together with contagious bond, mecha en sickening pulse it works quite well, only sucks that it doesnt scale with range
Hot take, but in my opinion, chroma can be reaally good for a beginner, just because hes simple to understand and the goals to build him up are simple aswell, maybe not as simple as something like inaros or revenant, but he can damn well push you super smoothly into steel path with some investment and 3-4 braincells.
Usually in the early game your weaponry isnt usually... perfect... but chroma can DEFINITELY give it a good push it needs to preform well in higher levels, though steel path will probably need a slight bit of investment more than steel path.
Tdlr, give the man a form of sustain, strength, and okay effeciency and your basically fine for sp
(THOUGH REVENANT IS DEFINITELY 3 MILLION TIMES BETTER FOR THIS LOLOLOLOL)
Gah fuck i yapped too hard didnt i?
You are so real for this one! (i aint readin all of that)
Wouldn't consider that a "hot take" at all.
Yea chroma is great for beginners, since he just gives damage you might be lacking in early levels, just need a bit of tankyness and efficiency as you said xD
@@JunkyardGod yes but im very self concious and afraid of judgement
i think a cool idea for his 4 would be an exalted flame thrower similar to the ignis, in the form of dragon breath.
overall i think his kit could get a total rework
I myself enjoy Chroma nowadays quite a bunch - even though he is a kinda Niche pick.
For the most part i ran him you showed him here.
But couple days ago discovered the Interaction of: Arcane Battery + Avenger + Quick Thinking.
And i freaking love the concept of just not dying cause my Energy pool is Huge - ill sustain Health -> Which turns into Energy -> Cycle continues.
Its basicly what Chroma does - Be Tanky - Crap out Tons of Dmg Buff's - and just.. exist xD.
keep it up =) !
I have an idea to rework the worst two parts of Chroma's kit that might make him a bit better. Redo the Passive so that he gets +25% ability damage per status type effecting the target. Good, but not overpowered working like Condition Overload but for abilities (of which Chroma doesn't have too many damage dealing abilities anyway, it'd mostly be a buff to Chroma's Vex Armor but eh it's better than the pointless passive he has now.) For the Breath, they could rework it so that different types of breath do different things. Ice breath would put an icy mist around enemies damaged, slowing them but not dealing damage. Poison Breath would cause Cysts to start growing on enemies, and once a Cyst reaches full size it would pop and deal Gas status in a small radius. Flame Breath would drop patches of molten fire on the ground below damaged enemies. Electric Breath would siphon enemies Shields and Health to restore Chroma's own.
I figured that passive would make sense and fit more into Chroma's whole design, since he seems based off a Chromatic Dragon from D&D. That would also put some benefit into switching to different elemental types rather than just sitting on Frost or Fire the whole time.
I replaced his 1 with Ophaium Eyes, and I absolutely love it, along with Arcane Battery so no need for flow, more than enough energy to recast his 2 & 3 along with Ophaium Eyes, I now use him for everything
Yea thats a good idea! Ophanum Eyes is soooo good xD
@@morning8590 How are y'all replacing warframe abilities?? Is it a PC hack?
Helminth. Its a part of your ship but you need to do a lot of story quests and bounties deimous standing bounties to get to that point so i wouldnt worry about it yet. Get yourself a cohesive well balanced frame like Harrow, Gauss or something and then you dont need to feel out of place with no helminth @kennyb3509
@@kennyb3509helminth
@@kennyb3509 helminth, give it a search on youtube and youll be happily surprised friendo :)
Chroma has a serious bug at the moment where if you subsume over his 1, you won't be able to use any element other than heat in pugs, unless you are hosting. The color choice doesn't make any difference. Really hope this gets fixed soon, but it would be good to put in as a disclaimer somewhere.
I wouldn’t mind them replacing his first ability with a moddable exalted weapon. His seconds should be a timed duration instead of channeled and the augmented to make it follow Chroma.
You cant compare chroma's first ability to the furis, almost nothing stands to that dps its not fair 😂 i've done more damage with 1 heat proc than i've done with chroma's "damage" abilities collectively
His first ability is more comparable to the likes of nepheri then anything and even that weapon does more damage then Chroma spectral scream
Great video, Subbed
Chroma's kit is shit yes, but I actually don't need anything else than vex armor to damage cap !
I go Ice Dragon. Empower or Nourish on his 4th with Precision Intensify. I plan on trying Ophidian Eyes on his 4th too.
Apply arcane battery and quickthinking, energy applies your armor for 5k health to make full use of nourish energy economy. Then put rage or hunters adrenaline then combat discipline since energy is your real health.
@knowvoid9958 I already run arcane battery.
@@JunkyardGod and to know about not running base damage mods on weapons he uses since his ability counts as adding a powerful serration instead of the old multiplier?
@@knowvoid9958 yeah. I'm not a newbie haha
the fact that nepheri gives a better dragon breath 😂😂😂
Exactly the reason I had got the weapon. Literally for chroma and I use melee's a lot
my chroma uses toxin, it’s because of my melee, it procs 7 vex Toxin status effects so enemies die instantly from one hit. and it’s good against acholites or archon hunt
The last augment is great use quickthinking and arcane battery. You will get 1.8k energy pool which is worth over 5k health and armor applies to energy lethal damage. Then go combat discipline and the augment with hunters adrenaline then equip tennet glaxion with energy augment and xoris and youre all set.
Yea thats okay for steel path, but chromas gets outclassed by to many warframes, so still quite mid overall
@@morning8590 mmm yes but it's a game and I plan to have fun, most of the games playtime is in the mid game, also for throwing glaives the game actually double dips in his buff so you can use the xoris with the new elemental mod, and if you get the relic buff you can get even more insane when you keep it up. The glaxion slow applies on the thrax very well. He's a very calm frame to just farm Lua for relics steel essence and Lua thrax plasm at the same time. I use a foot pedal to do heavy charge throw and detonate and the middle pedal for casting 3
@@knowvoid9958 Agreed, as long as you have fun that's all that matters, to me chroma isn't fun anymore, too stale, but to each their own :)
I know this is late but im relatively new to the game and want to use Chroma since he just looks cool. Does the melee weapon strictly have to be Dual Ichor or would i be able to use something different?
Yea you can use which ever weapon you like :)
Hes always dependable. I been playing since 2014 but im the type that gets burned out easily on the grind. So i remain in the Mr 18-19 range and have a select few frames with mid-tier low investment builds i use to hang with my more grind focused friends.
Chroma is next to Excal exalted blade spam on that list of stuff i use to turn my brain off and do decent numbers without needing to invest a ton of forma or mod grind or even trade chat lol. Im an exceptionally lazy player
The multiplicative damage and armor was turned into additive a long time ago when he was nerfed for soloing eidolons abd profit takers
I miss the old chroma he used to be more tankier and he used to do more damage but that is no gone
I really love the idea of Elemental Ward and Vexing Retaliation; but its all just so bad.
I would honestly prefer it if they removed the elemental and turret and focused on the aura and dragon instead!
Maybe a roar with knockdown and debuffs would work for a 4.
The Convectrix?! I'm gona have to get a riven for that
They should make his first abilitiy into an exalted weapon of sorts and have his 4th ability turn him into a dragon, im basing this off hildryn where in her 4th sh flies and has her exalted weapon
I oddly enough rarely use ice ward, much I much prefer the shield(elect) health or reload from the other elements.
Elemental Ward on Cold Affinity can pop mulli bubbles.
I just thought of a possible rework on his 4/1 to make him feel more dragon-y: instead of shedding your dragon skin, turn INTO the dragon and essentially act like a non-shrunk titania, using the trigger button to breath elemental fire and alt-firing to cast the stun scream. Not sure what to replace 1 with though. This a good fix?
did D.E say anything about reworking him ? or his 1 and 4?
The toxin damage from Elemental ward can stack with Harmony
I kinda wish his 4 made him like aatrox from league, some minor flight abilities. Maybe an exalted, just make one of his abilities make him feel like a true dragon. Kinda wish his 1 was a channeled ability, and you'd spew breath constantly while doing other actions. Give it a tiny drain so it could actually be used for awhile. Anyone else have ideas for a rework?
If they rework the 1st skill i might get a chroma myself i had no problem with 4 its good on profit taker the only problem is it has 2 shtty skill
So this is more of a melee frame instead of using primarys
D.E. PLS REWORK CHROMA PLS
I get it, but Chroma is insane. Just have to figure him out. DPS AND KPS are through the roof. Movement is great, and his passive enhances parkour. You can max out the buffs from his 2 & 3 almost instantly. No augment needed. Helminth his 4 or 1 with an ability that works and run every mission.
Always helminth off his 4
@@The_GeniLol. I understand. My main chroma build definitely replaces his 4, but keeping his 4 and building a speed Chroma is amazing. Give it a try
@joystickjutsu1576 I'm currently building him out to be insane. I had a question about helminth his 1? If I do so, what element will I be on by default. Will it instead be based on my emission element?
@joeystew6201 Yes. If you replace his 1, the default element will be based on your emissive color
IIRC the damage buff is still multiplicative with either thrown meele or thrown meele explosion so that is probably the way I'd play him. All in all I rate Chroma as more fun to play than Revenant (think of that what you will).
I don't think his damage buff is multiplicative with thrown melees anymore, I am pretty sure they fixed that with his update sadly
It still is - Exodia Contagion is still able to deal milions point of dmg without reducing enemies armor
Bomba
When you say Vex armor isn't multiplicative anymore do you mean fury no longer gives a multiplicative damage bonus to glaives and (apparently, haven't tested) weapons with multiplicative CO? If that's true it's a huge nerf and isn't on the wiki patch note history.
Still works with glaives
@@Huh-0.1any thrown melee to be exact
@@pavleson Wolf sledge my beloved fr
Wait I thought they fixed the glaives aswell? 0_0 pretty sure it's gone?
bro i just built chroma prime and his shit damn last time i build frames without researching them
Chroma rn is weird and bland. I’m a chroma main and have hundreds of hours on him so I have noticed the small details in his gameplay and playability. 1. Chroma is supposed to be the DRAGON warframe but his abilities make him a SUPPORT CLASS! Everyone tries to use him for dmg (and it does work because of his 3) but his abilities buff everyone and 3 of his skills buff/aid the team. 2nd has a buff per element, 3 has a raw dmg/armor buff, and 4 is just used for money.
2. His passive SUCKS, he was a older frame so I guess that DE wanted to make him “balanced” but come on, an extra jump and bullet jump is one of the lamest passives I have ever seen! Doesn’t effect enemies, looting, or teamwork. It’s just a little more movement! And it doesn’t even effect his actual character abilities, like gauss has a passive that is used with his skills, Kullvero has a passive that directly affects his combat by aiding with crits, and mag has a larger loot gathering range. There passives make sense and aid there gameplay.
3. Chroma has the least visual effects to his abilities in the game. 1st ability has barely any effect besides some color and a slight effect to show the elements, 2. Is even worse then 1 because it’s a smaller aura and only on/around the feet of your body, 3 IS EVEN WORSE THEN THAT! No effect, no aura, just a small color (that is so hard to see you can barely notice it when playing) go up and down your body, 4 is the most flashy of his abilities (which isn’t saying much) and it has the ability 1 as its main attack/effect, large wings (even bigger and more detailed in prime), and occasionally does a roar/burst. Visually it’s good but gameplay wise…
Let’s just say I use my 4 more for the speed boost then it’s actual perpose.
Theme/synergy
His ability’s DO NOT COMPLEMENT EACHOTHER. And his abilities don’t fit his “draconian theme” either, 2 of them basically have nothing to do with dragons (2 and 3) and his 1 (bread and butter of dragon kind) is worse then your primary flame thrower! Less range with terrible damage, “but what about the 100% status proc”? It’s tick dmg is so slow I can proc more status with my revolver + 1. Only can proc 1 element at a time. Then there is the 4… honestly being able to bring forth a dragon is awesome! IF IT COULD KILL ANYTHING!!!! It’s dmg is so bad that having it in the 4 slot is a tragedy. wisp has a death ray from the sun as her 4th, excalibur has a light saber that can shoot projectiles, kullvero summons a knife rain that can even make pin head go 🫦! Even rhino who also doesn’t have many visual effect abilities still is fun to use because his abilities Synergize so well. Hell he is a tank frame that (canonically) has a stomp so strong it disrupts the FLOW OF TIME WITH NOTHING BUT RAW PHYSICAL STRENGTH!!!!! But chroma… his 4th is just a flashy sentry.
I played a defense mission a while ago and my only use was to stand in the middle of the field and let my allies get the defense buff and dmg buff(his vex armor mod makes it so I heal and get a longer duration the more enemies die(allies kills count to the mod effect)) I felt like a mobile totem pole.
Chroma need some serious work. Even if vex armor gets replaced I think it’s the price to pay for Chroma to FINALLY GET THE RECOGNITION HE DESERVES. CHROMA IS A DRAGON FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! I WANT TO FEEL LIKE IM PLAYING A DRAGON WARFRAME NOT A LUCIO KNOCK OFF!!!!!
If I were to recommend a rework it would be a complete change.
Passive: chroma now has 4 bars and one draconic symbol above those 4 bars.
Each bar is an element (fire, ice, poison, lightning) and using your skills with the element equipped will fill each bar (you must hit your enemies to fill the bar, the more hit the more meter you gain)
1. This ability will be the element swap skill. Tap to swap and hold to use the skill. This ability is chargeable, each element has a different effect:
Fire, launch a fireball that goes through enemies and if it hits a wall/serface it will explode(longer the charge the larger the fireball and the more damage)
Ice: freeze the ground around you and anyone inside your range will get cold proc (if used in air it will do a ground slam that will have more dmg but in a smaller aoe)(longer the charge, bigger the aoe and cold procs) (can freeze the ground for a short time to make enemies who where not in range slowed if they walk on it)
Poison: create an acidic toxin cloud/fog(looks like acid rain) that blinds enemies and strips armor, cloud follows you. (Allies who were in range get a smaller cloud for a short duration)(longer the charge the longer the more severe the effects and larger aoe)
Lightning: perform a lightning tackle in the direction your aiming (if used in air you perform multiple (shorter) jolts until aiming at the ground where you slam into the floor with an aoe shock)
(gets a speed boost for a short time after use) (the larger the charge the longer the distance travelled and the stronger the buff)
2. You use some of the meter you have built up to perform a strong attack
Fire: blast a moderate size area around you in a aoe of fire(force proc fire and any allies in range get a health buff)
Ice: blast a moderate size area around you in a aoe of ice mist( freezing enemies ranged weapons for a short time and buffing ally’s with increased armor and shield)
Poison: blast a moderate size area around you with a aoe of toxins( enemies in range get disoriented and can’t tell right from left and friend from foe, allies in range get a buff to their weapons with a toxic substance(get poison effect))
Lightning: release a aoe of an electric pulse in a moderate size range around you( enemies get force proc electricity, and allies in range get a speed boost to movment and weapons for a short time)
3. The draconic breath, has a long range and good dmg but it drains your element meter massively.
Tap to do a small burst and hold to increase duration.
Dmg depends on the element used and procs status of said element. No special gimmicks just a dragon’s breath.
4. Now this is where things get good. You transform into a larger version of yourself but with a different appearance( slouching appearance with elemental wings sticking out your back, larger build( arms and legs are wider and your torso is bigger), you now have a tail (purely cosmetic), and your head is now more shaped like a dragon (depending on the cosmetic head you picked will determine your head shape and appearance (example: dynasty cosmetic will have a more metallic look/ looks like a knight)
In this state you can’t use any of your weapons, you can only use your melee (hands) to attack, you drain meter while in this state but your other skills won’t. Your jump gets changed so you can’t double jump or bullet jump anymore but you do get one higher jump instead and a longer dash. Depending on the element used will determine what form you take (fire form will have small flames erupting from your body), (ice will have icicles sticking up and around your body), (poison will have a mist effect around your body), (and lightning will have bolts shooting from your body and off your horns(will also jump to any nearby surfaces)).
However there is a 5th and most powerful form (remember the draconian symbol I mentioned when talking about his passive) when all elemental bars are filled to the max you can enter a 5th form where your power is at it’s peak. (More dmg, larger aoe, more armor and shield)
This state is very powerful but it comes at a cost, in this stat your meter drains even faster then a normal tranformation, so use it wisely. Your appearance is now not of any element but now is of a white light with a holy glow, light beams shoot out of you and you get more of a divine aura.
Oh i forgot. Your moves change when you transform.
1. Fire( Fireball now becomes hellfire as you set anything and everything alight, your skill now a tap skill using max charge as a default)(leaves a flame trail and doubles fire procs)
Ice: freezing the ground now changes to a ice tomb as you reduce everything to absolute zero(larger aoe and double ice procs) (now becomes a tap skill with max charge as default)
Poison: acid cloud becomes acid storm as nothing lives through this spell( enemies now get a cloud following them doing constant damage and spread it to other enemies) (now becomes a tap skill with max charge as default)
Lightning: lightning tackle now becomes a lightning charge as you stampeded through enemies on all fours with full force( enemies hit get double lightning force proc and get disarmed) (skill now becomes a tap skill with max charge as default)
5th form (let’s call it nova or holy for now)
Skill sommons a star that when hitting a surface explodes causing large amounts of damage pushing enemies away before collapsing forming a black hole which pulls enemies back in and any other enemy’s who get in range.
2nd skill gets completely changed, you now dawn elemental claws that give a elemental effect to your melee hits and has a second effect.
Fire. Leave scorched earth on the ground where you swing( effect stays with the length of your transformation), enemies who stand in it get burned
Ice. Leave the ground frozen wherever you swing (effect stays for the length of your transformation), slowing enemies who stand on it.
Poison. Leave puddles of poison wherever you swing(effect stays for the length of your transformation), confusing enemies who stand in the puddles.
Lightning. Chain lightning to nearby enemies for better crowd control
Nova/Holy. Send stardust wherever you swing as a projectile. Dealing extra damage and disarming enemies hit.
3rd skill stays the same but gains a slightly wider aoe and slightly longer range with more dmg and double status proc.
Nova/Holy creates a star at the front of your mouth before collapsing it to launch a concentrated beam of solar radiation. Incinerating your foes in one big blast.
I dont like how the best wings for him is on a special event.
What ephemera is that??
Purified Bloom :)
@@morning8590what is the rest of your fashion?😭😭
i see dragon man with big thighs i get. thank u for making this video
My Chroma Prime destroys on Steel Path with 586 strength😂
what do u use ?
Some frames need more love
So the solution is make his 1st and 4th do Big Aoe damage. Fireball anyone
Elminster's not around, so might as well.
You dont need flow on chroma just use arcane battery and put a augur mod there instead
lol
use arcane battery
No 0_0
@@morning8590 okay 😅
what is blud cookin
@novAviator01 I'm using that build and I love it.
@@novAviator01 Yea I saw that build, and if he did it already, very little use in me just ripping and shipping it, so give that video a watch for a cool alternative that works well, everyone has battery fever atm lol arcane battery doesn't tickle my fancy to much though, my video was more just to give a detailed explanation on chroma with a build that works very well :)