I'm supportive of women's right, i've been in abusive relationships and i'm a massive MM fan. I think the truth is important and that its very important for them both to confront the past and work through it but I don't think cancel culture is fair. I don't think its fair that this ruin his entire career. Lets think about it from a spiritual perspective... we experience life for a reason, for spiritual growth and that is the outcome that is best. Its unfair that someone can appear 10 years after the fact and ruin everything you've worked hard for. In an ideal world i'd like him to be able to admit that has actions caused people pain and that he's truly sorry for them and for them both to help set up supports, counselling and charities for people experiencing the same and for the perpetrators to understand themselves, their inner issues and their own actions.. Whilst they both go through counselling. But the cancel culture to ruin current career, relationships and their futures.. no. In my experience, my abusers were messed up and need more help than I do. Ruining their lives isn't going to help. Them being able to see the truth of themselves and heal their emotional spiritual issues is.
I agree with you. I also believe that he thinks everything was mutual and he needs to realize that is not her perception. He needs to validate her feelings that it was not mutual in her eyes. He definitely needs some counseling and some realization that you can't just assume you're in a BDSM relationship with somebody because they originally agreed to it. BDSM is also all about consent, safe words and it sounds like he got way too comfortable with it. Besides, Evan Rachel Wood was way too young to be in that type of relationship and that was his mistake trying to enter into that type of relationship with somebody so young and naive. I do think he was a little bit controlling and he was definitely manipulative to try to prevent her from leaving him, but he needs to look inside himself and realize you can't do that to people.
Deta von teese has come out saying he wasn't like that w her..js she was w him for quite some time so if he acted in those ways.. I'm sure she'd have experienced it. I love MM ,
And please please please do not think my opinion in this one case which is in its infancy and we only know few details that i do not fully support victims of SA or any type of DV..i absolutely do and am fully aware of what it takes to come forward. I suppose my opinion is based on bias in this one case only.
I’m crushed really, as a fan of him... but I’m not and wouldn’t saying anything disrespectful to the ladies involved... but it’s super sad and disappointing.. I’m a big fan to the music, wish tho sometimes ppl wouldn’t put others in a box... just because of different tastes in a subject tho
I agree with you. I also believe that Manson believes he didn't do anything wrong. I think he doesn't realize that when you have a BDSM relationship it always has to be consensual. You have to have safe words and mutual understanding. Doing something to somebody while they were sleeping is not part of BDSM. Also entering into that type of relationship with somebody so young, is a bad idea. I also think he has a need to be with somebody and definitely used manipulation tactics to try to keep her from breaking up with him. I think he also has some narcissistic tendencies to him. He definitely needs counseling. I've always been a fan of him as well. I do believe he feels everything was mutual.
@@SarahGKing 100% agree with you! Hope all parties get some help! I can see him being definitely arrogant, n not even realise the magnitude, or thinking not much of it, n her being so young too, pure madness...
This makes me so upset as I GUARANTEE none of these ppl posting negative comments have never seen him perform. As Freddy Kruger is acting so is Manson..
Marilyn Manson is strange. It’s his right to be so but he’s changed himself to appear cringy, he likes being publicly related to scandal. Bad attention is still good attention. He has a sick cult of followers that believe he’s good deep down. I don’t believe that any woman would actually welcome his advances . Manson is only worried about getting . More reasons to dislike him . Have a great Sunday .
I actually LOVE Marilyn Manson. He is a great artist that puts on an amazing show!! Just as we know KJ allegedly lies..ppl could also. Johnny Depp was also accused of things as well. An ex wife came out and back Manson.
Im sorry but i dont buy this case as truth. Do i think she regrets some things she engaged in with marilyn now that shes older? Yes. Too many people who are willing adult participants can fall victim to later feeling abused in earlier events. Covid has also brought some financially motivated lawsuits. Actors are struggling. I also have some personal insight into the players involved. I am 100% behind victims of AB in all forms and would never allow it to be swept under the rug but..in thisnone particular case i think its more a case of regret and embarrasment..not a case of AB...imho.
@@sunflowers2469 you may be right..mabie because ive probably only known mostly misogynistic men they seem the norm to me rather than the exception. I know about "falling under the "spell" if you will to a flamboyant..eccentric man..only to realize later how i was mistreated. But..lawsuit worthy in rachels cass? Mabie....idk..wasnt there but do know the characture of someone involved. Thats all..
HAPPY SUNDAY!! That shawl is absolutely beautiful! I will definitely enter that give away and thank you for doing something so cool!!
Thanks for looking at this topic. It needs to be talked about.
I'm supportive of women's right, i've been in abusive relationships and i'm a massive MM fan. I think the truth is important and that its very important for them both to confront the past and work through it but I don't think cancel culture is fair. I don't think its fair that this ruin his entire career. Lets think about it from a spiritual perspective... we experience life for a reason, for spiritual growth and that is the outcome that is best. Its unfair that someone can appear 10 years after the fact and ruin everything you've worked hard for.
In an ideal world i'd like him to be able to admit that has actions caused people pain and that he's truly sorry for them and for them both to help set up supports, counselling and charities for people experiencing the same and for the perpetrators to understand themselves, their inner issues and their own actions.. Whilst they both go through counselling. But the cancel culture to ruin current career, relationships and their futures.. no.
In my experience, my abusers were messed up and need more help than I do. Ruining their lives isn't going to help. Them being able to see the truth of themselves and heal their emotional spiritual issues is.
I agree with you. I also believe that he thinks everything was mutual and he needs to realize that is not her perception. He needs to validate her feelings that it was not mutual in her eyes. He definitely needs some counseling and some realization that you can't just assume you're in a BDSM relationship with somebody because they originally agreed to it. BDSM is also all about consent, safe words and it sounds like he got way too comfortable with it. Besides, Evan Rachel Wood was way too young to be in that type of relationship and that was his mistake trying to enter into that type of relationship with somebody so young and naive. I do think he was a little bit controlling and he was definitely manipulative to try to prevent her from leaving him, but he needs to look inside himself and realize you can't do that to people.
Deta von teese has come out saying he wasn't like that w her..js she was w him for quite some time so if he acted in those ways.. I'm sure she'd have experienced it. I love MM ,
Very well said butterfly
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And please please please do not think my opinion in this one case which is in its infancy and we only know few details that i do not fully support victims of SA or any type of DV..i absolutely do and am fully aware of what it takes to come forward. I suppose my opinion is based on bias in this one case only.
He did it, that is that.
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I’m crushed really, as a fan of him... but I’m not and wouldn’t saying anything disrespectful to the ladies involved... but it’s super sad and disappointing.. I’m a big fan to the music, wish tho sometimes ppl wouldn’t put others in a box... just because of different tastes in a subject tho
I agree with you. I also believe that Manson believes he didn't do anything wrong. I think he doesn't realize that when you have a BDSM relationship it always has to be consensual. You have to have safe words and mutual understanding. Doing something to somebody while they were sleeping is not part of BDSM. Also entering into that type of relationship with somebody so young, is a bad idea. I also think he has a need to be with somebody and definitely used manipulation tactics to try to keep her from breaking up with him. I think he also has some narcissistic tendencies to him. He definitely needs counseling. I've always been a fan of him as well. I do believe he feels everything was mutual.
@@SarahGKing 100% agree with you! Hope all parties get some help! I can see him being definitely arrogant, n not even realise the magnitude, or thinking not much of it, n her being so young too, pure madness...
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This makes me so upset as I GUARANTEE none of these ppl posting negative comments have never seen him perform. As Freddy Kruger is acting so is Manson..
I have and am a fan of his and I believe everything those women are saying about him.
Can you do a reading on the Ti and Tiny situation. They have had their show cancelled because of. The family hustle
@@CarolineIronwill thank you! I enjoy watching you!
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Thank you for covering this subject!! :) I really hope everyone involved is going to be able to heal and feel safe and free
Marilyn Manson is strange. It’s his right to be so but he’s changed himself to appear cringy, he likes being publicly related to scandal. Bad attention is still good attention. He has a sick cult of followers that believe he’s good deep down. I don’t believe that any woman would actually welcome his advances . Manson is only worried about getting . More reasons to dislike him . Have a great Sunday .
I actually LOVE Marilyn Manson. He is a great artist that puts on an amazing show!! Just as we know KJ allegedly lies..ppl could also. Johnny Depp was also accused of things as well. An ex wife came out and back Manson.
And FYI I'm not a sick cult follower..
What’s DB?
In many Fields I'm sure
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Manson is so creepy to me. I can't even look at him.
Im sorry but i dont buy this case as truth. Do i think she regrets some things she engaged in with marilyn now that shes older? Yes. Too many people who are willing adult participants can fall victim to later feeling abused in earlier events. Covid has also brought some financially motivated lawsuits. Actors are struggling. I also have some personal insight into the players involved. I am 100% behind victims of AB in all forms and would never allow it to be swept under the rug but..in thisnone particular case i think its more a case of regret and embarrasment..not a case of AB...imho.
You have internalized misogyny.
@@sunflowers2469 you may be right..mabie because ive probably only known mostly misogynistic men they seem the norm to me rather than the exception. I know about "falling under the "spell" if you will to a flamboyant..eccentric man..only to realize later how i was mistreated. But..lawsuit worthy in rachels cass? Mabie....idk..wasnt there but do know the characture of someone involved. Thats all..