People need to relax about Chiesa imo. Yes it's frustrating for everyone but it's very early days. It was an opportunistic bargain signing & we didn't even need him. He's got some niggles, which is more annoying than worrying at this stage imo. The medical team are obviously taking their time to get him fit & not rushing him which is the right thing to do as he had no pre-season to speak of. He'll be a great impact sub soon enough imo.
It was only six months ago alot of people, including folks on fan channels that were saying Curtis Jones was not good enough for Liverpool, Gravenberch was very average, Diaz was not that good and could be sent off to Real Madrid and Konate had fallen off and needed replacing. Also, dont get me started on Joe Gomez. After Thiago and Keita fans have no patience for injured players.
Bang on mate. The stick he's been getting is not good. He was clearly so pleased and excited to join the club. let's back him as he's a brilliant player.
@Huly241072 Lol. That's going back some. You could be right about Chiesa, but really hope not. Time will tell I guess & everything crossed that it works out.
With regards to Ciesa injury. My kid (who plays for our u17 national team just did an ACL and had knee reconstruction. It’s a horrific program to get back to full fitness. The whole leg needs rehabilitation and then the body needs to be balanced. Rugby players get back to full fitness easier than footballers because they run soo much less. It’s the running twisting and turning that is the issue especially for elite attacking players that rely on that burst of pace and stopping quickly and turning quickly. A defender like VVD will be able to recover easier. If we can rehab Ciesa he will be good.
There’s something special about a home grown player developing and coming through the ranks. He earns a special respect from the fans. Kelleher is one of those. Any premiership club can spend x millions on a player. There’s nothing too interesting or innovative about that. I would always favour a player that has come the club, will be disappointed if Kelleher is let go (as looks the plan) in favour of a similar level keeper (the Georgian).
For me you play players when they are ‘hot’ and kelleher is definitely that. You basically play him until his form drops then play Alison until his form drops etc
Slot said in his interview very clearly when asked about kellerher being in good form and will Alison get back in the answer was Alison is the number 1 keeper when he is fit he plays, slot is very very clear about that and I agree.
Keepers have a well defined number 1 and 2 much more than outfield players though. And I think it's important to do that. Confidence is huge, and I think even more so for keepers as they are the absolute last line of defence. I don't think chopping and changing every time they make a couple of mistakes or have a bad game or two is good for anyone. And Alisson's performances haven't dropped off, he's just injured. He hasn't done anything to warrant losing his number 1 position, so he should be straight back in when he's fit.
@ I hear that but mo leads by example. He doesn’t need a title. It’s powerful having a leader who it means more to than everybody else. A person from Liverpool who didn’t learn what it means to be a Liverpool player on the job.
I think we bought mamadasvelli because we thought Kelleher would leave last summer. He didn’t so we now have 3 world class keepers with jaros looking solid too
Mamard is Allisson's replacement. What he provides (over Kelleher) is the commanding presence on crosses. No problem keeping Caoimhín, but the Georgian is an upgrade....and selling Kelleher for £20m gives FSG even more money not to spend 🙂
@@Do27gg thats more than we spent on allison, who was miles better than Kelleher. Kelleher also has just over a year left on his contract. No way he leaves for anything close to that.
@@Mr_jz_12 no we spent almost double that on Alison..and transfer fees don’t reflect the players quality, it depends on the market at the time and there aren’t a lot of world class keepers about so. The year left on his contract is the only reason he should go for less
I knew Gravenberch would chill everyone out till Grav gets injured! Id still bring in Zubimendi and someone like Thuram whos big strong and athletic or Kone along with Zubimendi!
Kerkez is the one. Throw 40 million down in Jan and see what Bournemouth do. It’s going to be a Diaz situation, United and Bayern are both looking at him need to snap him up.
The stick Chiesa's been getting is not good. He was clearly so pleased and excited to join the club. We should be backing talented world class footballers who want to play for Liverpool - not calling him a "cripple" or a waste of space. I for one hope he proves these doubters wrong, and i have a sneaky suspicion he will. people forget he played 33 games last season coming back from a major injury. Give him time!
Top of the league and flying and still talking about transfers, this person out, this person in. How about just leave it for a bit, everyones been class and could get better and slots been here a long weekend.
Think Kerkez is better defensively, but Alt-nouri seems better on the ball. I expect all the news about Chiesa is because Italian clubs want him back on the cheap. Don't think he's going anywhere.
Yeah if FSG were like Chrlsea no new stadium no new traing complex and we'd be on the verge of bankruptcy again like under Gillette and Hicks great idea? Oh this is all down to the players me I'd ring Madrid say you can have him if we can have Tchoumeni or Rodrygo
@@TerribleEnglish really so they didn't buy Nunez in Jan or VVD or a few othersaybe you should remember what they said when the took over our bankrupt sorry arse with the banks about to fore close, the club will run cost effectively what it makes it can spend when we tried to buy Caicedo the money was there when we went for Zubimendi the money was there neither chose to came one for money the other for love of club, please remember that when you blame FSG gor TAA leaving
Crazy how people on here think in such extremes to support their narrative…because spending more can only mean spending wildly and carelessly like Chelsea. No middle ground allowed!
This is going to be a contentious comment but hear me out. I believe Allisson is the best keeper in the world. But, say we get 3 seasons of him playing half a season, one option instead would be to make Kelleher No1 given we'd get 10 years out of him (and not lose him). It's hard to find a keeper as good as kelleher (certainly one you don't have to pay for) and the big Georgian though a talent is still unproven in the Prem.
Kelleher should has earned being the next number 1. Never should have bought a keeper. Plus Allison should be kept. Ben Doak needs to score. Dribbling i love. Not enough to play in the front line at any top team in the top leagues. Dribbles into the box is not the standard for a wide Saka, Rashord, Vini, Mbappe, Diaz, Salah. Whatever. it's NOT enough. I like his potential though.
If it were friendlies, there'd be one less interruption in the run up to the intense Christmas period and they're not as competitive so people aren't as likely to come back injured or fatigued.
I can why a player wants to play for their country in a World Cup. But as a supporter, I wouldn’t care a single jot if they never played another game away from Liverpool.
There is an argument that Kelleher deserves to start over Alisson, since Alisson is always injured for half the season now. So if the new keeper comes he will probably be No1.
There isnt. Ali is top 2/3 Gk:s itw. And that won’t change unless he gets a season ender. Kelleher is very good, but its a whole different beast to keep a no1 shirt vs being the the stand in. Alison should and will always start if he isnt injured, and there is nothing Kelleher can do to change that because he just isnt as good.
Who's argument the fans that's fair enough,but did you hear what slot said in his interview in our last game against villa, he was asked about kellerher his form and slot made it 100% clear that Alison is the number one keeper and whenhe returns he will be back in the first team playing, this one of the reasons I love slot it's clear blunt and their is no argument.
#Kerkez In #Tsimikas Out, #Zubimendi IN #Endo OUT, and IF #Trent Leaves replace him with #Hakimi (1 yr left in his contract), I believe #Mo & #Virgil will renew their contract. Good to go ❤❤❤❤
It's not stupid. We all knew this could happen and the low fee was worth the risk. If Liverpool let him go they'll still recoup at least part of the fee if not all of it.
Why dont Liverpool contact Madrid and see if they're interested in swapping TAA for Rodrygo or Tchoumeni this will make him state what he actually wants either stay or go.
Guys, you are talking about left back but we have 2 but nobody talks about center backs and defensive midfielders that is top pripority. We urgently need left-footed center back (Goncalo Inacio, Piero Incapie, Lakeba, Schlottenberg) and defensive/box-to-box midfielder (Joao Gomes, Alan Varela, Daniel Braganca, Ederson)
People need to relax about Chiesa imo. Yes it's frustrating for everyone but it's very early days. It was an opportunistic bargain signing & we didn't even need him. He's got some niggles, which is more annoying than worrying at this stage imo. The medical team are obviously taking their time to get him fit & not rushing him which is the right thing to do as he had no pre-season to speak of. He'll be a great impact sub soon enough imo.
It was only six months ago alot of people, including folks on fan channels that were saying Curtis Jones was not good enough for Liverpool, Gravenberch was very average, Diaz was not that good and could be sent off to Real Madrid and Konate had fallen off and needed replacing. Also, dont get me started on Joe Gomez. After Thiago and Keita fans have no patience for injured players.
Bang on mate. The stick he's been getting is not good. He was clearly so pleased and excited to join the club. let's back him as he's a brilliant player.
I hear u but I'm getting Melo vibes. And Juventus love screening us with player transfers. Its like they've never forgiven us for Rushie
@Huly241072 Lol. That's going back some. You could be right about Chiesa, but really hope not. Time will tell I guess & everything crossed that it works out.
With regards to Ciesa injury. My kid (who plays for our u17 national team just did an ACL and had knee reconstruction. It’s a horrific program to get back to full fitness. The whole leg needs rehabilitation and then the body needs to be balanced. Rugby players get back to full fitness easier than footballers because they run soo much less. It’s the running twisting and turning that is the issue especially for elite attacking players that rely on that burst of pace and stopping quickly and turning quickly. A defender like VVD will be able to recover easier. If we can rehab Ciesa he will be good.
Chiesa just joined, no way he's leaving in January.
I'd love it if we get Omar Marmoush. Love it.
There’s something special about a home grown player developing and coming through the ranks. He earns a special respect from the fans. Kelleher is one of those. Any premiership club can spend x millions on a player. There’s nothing too interesting or innovative about that. I would always favour a player that has come the club, will be disappointed if Kelleher is let go (as looks the plan) in favour of a similar level keeper (the Georgian).
For me you play players when they are ‘hot’ and kelleher is definitely that. You basically play him until his form drops then play Alison until his form drops etc
Slot said in his interview very clearly when asked about kellerher being in good form and will Alison get back in the answer was Alison is the number 1 keeper when he is fit he plays, slot is very very clear about that and I agree.
@ I’m aware he said that, that’s why I said ‘for me’ at the start
Keepers have a well defined number 1 and 2 much more than outfield players though. And I think it's important to do that. Confidence is huge, and I think even more so for keepers as they are the absolute last line of defence. I don't think chopping and changing every time they make a couple of mistakes or have a bad game or two is good for anyone. And Alisson's performances haven't dropped off, he's just injured. He hasn't done anything to warrant losing his number 1 position, so he should be straight back in when he's fit.
Yeah dats great play till he makes mistakes and swap him for alisson dats not how it works with keepers soft lad
Jaden Danns is the absolute truth.. he is so good that he could come in and really cause problems in the best way possible
Mamardashvili looks like he still needs a bunch of training on playing with his feet. Coaches must be confident they can add that to his game.
Robbo, vvd, konate, szobo, salah all captains for the national team. Gakpo ex psv captain, Trent vice captain, #LEADERS
And they said we’d have no leaders
Don't forget Endo for Japan
And connor bradley for N I
For me, Mo Salah should be VC before Trent.
@ I hear that but mo leads by example. He doesn’t need a title. It’s powerful having a leader who it means more to than everybody else. A person from Liverpool who didn’t learn what it means to be a Liverpool player on the job.
Pleasure as always gents really enjoyed this morning :). Hope everyone enjoyed the episode 👋
I think we bought mamadasvelli because we thought Kelleher would leave last summer. He didn’t so we now have 3 world class keepers with jaros looking solid too
Mamard is Allisson's replacement. What he provides (over Kelleher) is the commanding presence on crosses. No problem keeping Caoimhín, but the Georgian is an upgrade....and selling Kelleher for £20m gives FSG even more money not to spend 🙂
@ kelleher should go for no less than 40-50m tbh but yeah it’s all so Henry can buy a new yacht 😂
@@Do27gg😂😂😂😂 wow you know FSG so so well ...NOT allowed made from transfers and such goes back to the club which is why we're self sufficent
@@Do27gg thats more than we spent on allison, who was miles better than Kelleher. Kelleher also has just over a year left on his contract. No way he leaves for anything close to that.
@@Mr_jz_12 no we spent almost double that on Alison..and transfer fees don’t reflect the players quality, it depends on the market at the time and there aren’t a lot of world class keepers about so. The year left on his contract is the only reason he should go for less
We need a lcb hybrid like a lukeba/bastoni/hincapie or hato. And then dm go get zubi
I knew Gravenberch would chill everyone out till Grav gets injured! Id still bring in Zubimendi and someone like Thuram whos big strong and athletic or Kone along with Zubimendi!
Kerkez is the one. Throw 40 million down in Jan and see what Bournemouth do. It’s going to be a Diaz situation, United and Bayern are both looking at him need to snap him up.
The stick Chiesa's been getting is not good. He was clearly so pleased and excited to join the club. We should be backing talented world class footballers who want to play for Liverpool - not calling him a "cripple" or a waste of space. I for one hope he proves these doubters wrong, and i have a sneaky suspicion he will. people forget he played 33 games last season coming back from a major injury. Give him time!
We have 4 top goalkeepers at the moment not 3
Joe is not the left back under Slot. He is a quality centre back.
Top of the league and flying and still talking about transfers, this person out, this person in. How about just leave it for a bit, everyones been class and could get better and slots been here a long weekend.
Think Kerkez is better defensively, but Alt-nouri seems better on the ball. I expect all the news about Chiesa is because Italian clubs want him back on the cheap. Don't think he's going anywhere.
Imagine if FSG weren't such misers
Well there would be one of two results. 1 we win more and often..2 we'd be like manure divided
Yeah if FSG were like Chrlsea no new stadium no new traing complex and we'd be on the verge of bankruptcy again like under Gillette and Hicks great idea? Oh this is all down to the players me I'd ring Madrid say you can have him if we can have Tchoumeni or Rodrygo
We were in real danger of missing out on the top 4 twice in recent seasons, and they didn't help in January. That says it all.
@@TerribleEnglish really so they didn't buy Nunez in Jan or VVD or a few othersaybe you should remember what they said when the took over our bankrupt sorry arse with the banks about to fore close, the club will run cost effectively what it makes it can spend when we tried to buy Caicedo the money was there when we went for Zubimendi the money was there neither chose to came one for money the other for love of club, please remember that when you blame FSG gor TAA leaving
Crazy how people on here think in such extremes to support their narrative…because spending more can only mean spending wildly and carelessly like Chelsea. No middle ground allowed!
This is going to be a contentious comment but hear me out. I believe Allisson is the best keeper in the world. But, say we get 3 seasons of him playing half a season, one option instead would be to make Kelleher No1 given we'd get 10 years out of him (and not lose him). It's hard to find a keeper as good as kelleher (certainly one you don't have to pay for) and the big Georgian though a talent is still unproven in the Prem.
Kelleher should has earned being the next number 1. Never should have bought a keeper. Plus Allison should be kept. Ben Doak needs to score. Dribbling i love. Not enough to play in the front line at any top team in the top leagues. Dribbles into the box is not the standard for a wide Saka, Rashord, Vini, Mbappe, Diaz, Salah. Whatever. it's NOT enough. I like his potential though.
Doak would have stayed if we didn't sign Chiesa.. can we get him back in January?
I don't see why we are trying to run off Allison.
Kelleher will concede every one on one.. Alison saves some..
Next season see if you can get a loan to RB either Salzburg or Leipzig ,Salzberg preferably with all of Klopps staff there😊
Even if the big 3 left they cost about 100 mil plus wages in total for nearly 10 years of joy legends
Kerkez to come in and play like Dominik
Uhh, Chiesa news?? Did I miss something?...
Why does everyone hate the nations league? I think it’s better than having friendlies.
If it were friendlies, there'd be one less interruption in the run up to the intense Christmas period and they're not as competitive so people aren't as likely to come back injured or fatigued.
I can why a player wants to play for their country in a World Cup. But as a supporter, I wouldn’t care a single jot if they never played another game away from Liverpool.
There is an argument that Kelleher deserves to start over Alisson, since Alisson is always injured for half the season now. So if the new keeper comes he will probably be No1.
Yeah honestly Kelleher has been UNREAL. If he keeps this up until Alison has recovered then honestly don’t see why Alison should start
There isnt. Ali is top 2/3 Gk:s itw. And that won’t change unless he gets a season ender. Kelleher is very good, but its a whole different beast to keep a no1 shirt vs being the the stand in. Alison should and will always start if he isnt injured, and there is nothing Kelleher can do to change that because he just isnt as good.
Who's argument the fans that's fair enough,but did you hear what slot said in his interview in our last game against villa, he was asked about kellerher his form and slot made it 100% clear that Alison is the number one keeper and whenhe returns he will be back in the first team playing, this one of the reasons I love slot it's clear blunt and their is no argument.
Perhaps when Allison is back, to minimise the risk of injury, we play him in the PL only and Kelleher in the CL and cups?
If fsg dont spend in January than they are not serious about winning. titles rather make money
Alisson is the undisputed #1, sell Kelleher and Mamadivish compete with Alison. If we buy Kerkez we sell Robo
or sell Tsmikas keep Robo to tutor Kerkez
@BigKinger95 agree
Lol who is going to buy Chiesa, not many clubs willing to be permanent hospital beds nowadays.
Bet you were same 'Red' who dissed Curtis & now love him. Fickle fans. Support the lad, he's one of us.
Woww
Juve sold us a dummy in Chiesa
Used robbo in cdm
To be honest, I thought Chinese had already gone, 😂
#Kerkez In #Tsimikas Out, #Zubimendi IN #Endo OUT, and IF #Trent Leaves replace him with #Hakimi (1 yr left in his contract), I believe #Mo & #Virgil will renew their contract. Good to go ❤❤❤❤
A clown's managerial skills!
@zamkezambo Useless reply of a Stinky fan named @zamkezambo
@@zamkezamboI actually like where his head is at.
Buy noww
The Chiesa buy looks stupider & stupider if he’s truly looking to go, AND if the club is willing to sell him.
It's not stupid. We all knew this could happen and the low fee was worth the risk. If Liverpool let him go they'll still recoup at least part of the fee if not all of it.
@@14stewartjwe will recoup very little. He was valued at only 10 million nd now has played 15 minutes. We may get half back if we are lucky
@@14stewartjWe would *Lose Money* on it. Guaranteed.
Why dont Liverpool contact Madrid and see if they're interested in swapping TAA for Rodrygo or Tchoumeni this will make him state what he actually wants either stay or go.
Guys, you are talking about left back but we have 2 but nobody talks about center backs and defensive midfielders that is top pripority. We urgently need left-footed center back (Goncalo Inacio, Piero Incapie, Lakeba, Schlottenberg) and defensive/box-to-box midfielder (Joao Gomes, Alan Varela, Daniel Braganca, Ederson)
We have 3 not including Grav, Mac or Curtis how many do you need?
Err you talked about a back up 6 earlier Steffan Bajetic hopefully back fully fit from RB with champs league experience under his belt
@@Saharadesertdragon 3 is not enough, should be 4 or 5
@@Saharadesertdragon We need defensive midfielder right now as a squad depth is not enough
#FSGOUT
Let me guess, Saudi in? If you’d grown up watching Hodgson’s team I doubt you’d feel that way. To be honest, I doubt you were a fan before 2019
#Plasticfansout
@@robbiekop7that’s his opinion doesn’t make him a plastic
Oh do shut up. They gave us the new Anfield, Klopp and now Slot. You can keep your oil money.