There I was training just about everyday, all sets to failure, after a poor nights sleep, hyped up on 4 cups of coffee, under eating and sessions over 60mins, walking 20k steps a day. Felt so deflated, retained water and strength just dropped.Switched to 2 cups of coffee, train every 2 days, 40 mins, 6 working sets each to failure. Eat more. Walk less. Sleep and nap more. Strength and endurance is better, pumps are insane. Trying to train to live, instead of living to train.
Found this video helpful, especially how you mention everyone’s “sweet spot” is diff for running mileage... especially considering some of us do various forms of exercise along with intense runs: calisthenics, HIIT workouts, conditioning and strength.. biking etc ... overall it’s more tearing down muscle than rebuilding!! It’s scary how the symptoms creep up and we try to sweep them under the rug! Good summary and it’s a great wake up call ! Time for rest 🙏
Glad you enjoyed! Yes, every body is different and will react differently to diet and exercise amounts/intensity/frequency. The important thing is to know that longevity in sport/exercise requires frequent rest and listening to our bodies.
Extreme chronic inflammation in my entire body, muscle aches, muscle heaviness, chronic fatigue, joint pain, out of breath and moodiness... ocd doesn't help switch off from overtraining but thank you for this 🙏
Hypoglycemia, explainable crying, depression, fatigue, abnormal soreness, clumsy, fibromyalgia symptoms. I am ~3 months off of exercise, and I'm still in a rut. I crashed a couple times over the last year, but kept pushing myself on & on. I used to go for 10 mile runs for fun. Tempo runs nearly every single day (rookie mistakes). & dream about being XC champion. Then one day I completely crashed, but this time I felt totally depleted, I knew I was dead this time. BURNT OUT. Now, I can only just walk to class, sit outside and get some sun, watch TV, and that's enough for me. Walking my dog is the biggest thing I can do. I gained 25 pounds since, I just want to be able to run again. I just pray that I'll be able to make PRs again. & not be "handicapped" in physical activities for the rest of my life.
I am so sorry to hear that you are in the toughest part of recovery right now. Honestly, it does not seem so...but the only way from where you are is UP. Keep resting, keep eating well, sleeping well, and taking care of your body and mind. It is a LONG journey, but with patience we can come back. A year later, I am just now starting to feel better, but I have to admit that if I am not 100% vigilant...symptoms can creep in again. It's always darkest before the dawn, as they say. Stay positive and mindful XOXO
You're right! My first month I thought I had a disease, but that storm eventually blew over. I can sit on the couch without cringing now. I am blessed! Thank you for your video series
I am so grateful for your channel. I've known something was a bit off for awhile but been avoiding doing this research. It's clear to me I need to take action, thank you so much.
I haven't been able to completely stop, but I've been going 15+ miles/day for months and since I found your content I have been able to cut it back by almost half. I honestly just didn't realize it was problematic until I recognized almost all the symptoms you listed and I guess that was just the click I needed. Thank you so much again. I will reach out if I go wobbly ;)
I have been experiencing the same symptoms. Been running 4-5 days a week in cold winter. Am feeling extreme fatigue, hands feel heavy, my legs feels heavy, short tempered, light headed and dizzy, sore throat, flu like symptoms, brain fog. It has been a week now and I still feel very tired still. I will no longer be running. Am 39 years old. My body is telling me to take it easy. I really enjoy running, it makes me feel good but it makes me feel ill. Now I will focus on rest and nutrition and gentle exercise like dancing that doesn't require too much damage to my muscles.
What you are saying at 02:00 parallels perfectly with the mindset of a drug addict. The symptoms keep piling on, you know exactly what is happening to you, but you don’t really care until something exceptionally awful stops you cold. That stubbornness and determination to keep the routine going, pushing to do more and more, comes from the same place as denial does for the addict. And just like many addicts relapse repeatedly, so do people that take fitness to ridiculous extremes. They often don’t learn their lesson, and get right back into their destructive mindset as soon as they possibly can. The only difference I see are fitness junkies are often held up and admired by human society as role models. Junkie junkies are quite the opposite. Me? I don’t admire either of them because it is a mental illness and they need to get professional help.
Agree. The truth is that behavioral addictions are quite similar to drug/alcohol addictions, even neurologically. Sadly, there is very little understanding of this and few options for treatment. You are also correct about the fact that because the "outcome" of the exercise addiction is one that our culture finds aesthetically pleasing, it is perpetuated and even encouraged.
@@jillcolangelopsych This same thing happens in early drug addiction as well. Many addicts initially lose weight, look more attractive, act happier and more free-spirited which attracts lots of people to them. This acts as an initial enabler in addiction (in addition in many cases to the network of other people who may continue to enable them throughout their addiction in various ways). It can certainly help to work with a professional who can identify what underlying behavioral condition(s) (co-dependency, narcissism, underdeveloped ego, etc.) are offering a fertile ground for addiction to develop in. Because there are parallels in the mechanics of drug and exercise addiction treatment regiments and counseling techniques from one can help with the other. While as you said there is not much out there specifically tailored for exercise addiction there are mountains of materials available for drug addiction that can help and are worth looking into. The key is having a mindset to listen and change, and sadly most addicts just don't have that for a very long time. They end up doing severe damage to their bodies (and more often minds in the case of drugs) before they get determined to find a way out, if it ever happens at all.
For me it isn't how many miles i run but rather not eating enough carbs. I have a family, full time job, and train for marathons. There are times where this all gets overwhelming and dont track my eating. There are times were i start to get over trained with just 20 miles in a week vs having a high carb diet feeling the overtraing at about 90 miles a week. My biggest symptoms is just wanting junk food, feeling tired all day, not having good rest at night, night sweats, and not enjoying the run.
I'm a bit older, so I thought my nightsweats were menopause related. Now I'm pretty sure they are running related. I got a few minor ITB and knee injuries from running (40 -45 miles per week), so I would spin hard instead every day. After the knee pain subsided, I tried a 7 mile run and felt like I'd been hit by a truck. I just quit both for a couple of days and my nightsweats are better. I was also constantly exhausted and had a short fuse temper wise. Thank you!
I'm a bit older too, ha ha, and was 39 when I was in the worst of it 5 years ago. I convinced myself I was going through perimenopause also, but no...I was just training too much and not fueling properly. That "feel like you got hit by a truck" sensation after a relatively short run is a very common symptom of OTS. Definitely check out some of the more recent videos on OTS I have on the channel and let me know if I can answer any other questions!! Be well!!
I ran like you and I agree had most of those , I sympathizes. I stopped getting results in my training when I stopped wanting to.. This is my cue to take a week off. Thanks for the explanation about the swelling I went up two dresse sizes and had to stop running until the swelling went down.
Thanks for sharing. I have bumped up my week mileage too quickly. Went from 40 to 60, in like a week. bad decision, i have caught a flu, and i really really feel bad. Il take a full week of rest.
I need help. Trying to recover from overtraining but I think I damaged my pancreas. Was running 10+ miles in a day and then doing 2 more workouts same day. So dumb. If I eat carbs my blood sugar shoots up way too high. 2 servings of quinoa (86 grams) puts my blood sugar past 150. Not sure what to do. I know I need carbs to recover but they are shooting my blood sugar up. I've never had diabetes before. No history of it in my family. Everything started when I added running to my normal routine. Which was bodyweight exercises and mma but I would do the mma and bodyweight exercises in a HIIT style
Hi, I have unfortunately the same condition with exact same symptoms... I was too late noticing... It has been a month I stopped training and I still have days of swollen body and extreme hunger feeling... I would like to know how you coped with this? And how did you know it was over? 😞
Hello Kimi, you've come to the right place. I suggest watching as many of my videos as possible to gain more knowledge on this topic. If you have extra questions, go ahead and email me acaseofthejills@gmail.com
@@jillcolangelopsych thanks for your reply! it is such a relief to see that someone else has already gone through this... I did cry the whole first week as I had to stop running, I couldn't even walk let alone run... Now I am trying to do as less as possible although it is pretty difficult to hold back. I'll check out your videos and get back to you... Thanks again 🙂
I’m a 25 year old male with ME/CFS, and my illness was triggered by what I think was constant strenuous exercise that consisted of boxing, HIIT training, weight training and running every 6 days a week until my body literally gave up. My cortisol levels were that of a Cushings patient (thankfully my cortisol levels are in a good place), but even now I can’t walk a flight of stairs without ATP shortage and a pacing heart. I don’t even know what’s ME/CFS and what’s the damage from overtraining. Thanks for this video :)
It can take a VERY long time for the body to heal. Also, when you do heal, it's possible that your "tolerance" for strenuous exercise is very different. Three years later, I still have issues if I do too much. The longer you rest, the better. Sending healing vibes!
Hey I recently started training for half-marathon and I'm starting to experience some symptoms of over-training(fatigue) already and I have been only running for about 3 to 4 miles per day 5 days a week, which makes my current mileage (15 to 20) miles per week. I do have a very stressful career though I am a software engineer constantly facing project deadlines and I am scared that too much training can have a negative effect on my career. I am just wondering if you could offer me some advice on this matter. I am running for health/fitness not necessarily for competition. Honestly speaking running 15 to 20 miles per week doesn't seem like a lot at all for a lot of people ? Should I give myself sometime to get used to this routine or should I significantly reduce my mileage to accomodate my working stress? I know everybody is different but you seems to have experienced a lot of over-training yourself and I would really appreciate your opinion on this matter! Thank You
Hi Jerry! It would be hard to say whether or not you are heading down the road of overtraining based on what you have described here. If the symptom you experience is fatigue alone, that certainly can be attributed to many things including life stress, inadequate rest, or possibly inadequate nutrition, etc. Additionally, if you are trying to lose weight while training, plus have lots of work stress...you can experience fatigue easily. I would love to know more about your age, nutrition, rest, daily schedule, life details... You can email me acaseofthejills@gmail.com and give me as much info as possible. I can take a peek and offer some non-medical advice. Of course, I recommend following up with a doctor or other professional to be sure that you are healthy overall. Looking forward to your email!
@acaseofthejills Hi thank you for your response. I am currently 28 years old and I hold a job as a software engineer. My job is not physically demanding at all and I end up sitting in front of the computer for at least 10 hours per day working on projects. One of the main reasons I want to get into a half-marathon routine is that I feel like my time in front of the computer is slowly eating away my health. As you may have heard that software engineering is a cognitively intense career as I need to make sure that my brain always functions at a productive level and that can add to mental stress overtime. I sleep ok about 6 to 7 hours per night but I do end up pulling all nighters often. I often skip training or significantly reduce training volume the day after the all nighter. I exercise 5 days a week. I typically take Thursdays and Sundays off for rest. I prefer to run 5 times a week each time I run I go for 30 to 40 minutes each session( that is 3 to 4 miles for me at an 10 minute per mile pace). Sometimes if my legs feel sore or tight I tend to go for a swim instead of the run( the swim session tend to last around the same duration of time, which is 30 to 40 minutes of freestyle swimming). I do this because I think swimming is great form of cross training. Please let me know what do you think of my training routine. I prefer to exercise regularly to counteract the negative consequences of sitting too much in front of the computer but I don't want my routine to lead to any forms of fatigue/burnout. Thank You
Overtraining is something that occurs after months, if not years, of very high volume training without adequate rest. We are talking about athletes running multiple hours on multiple days of the week...sometimes with the addition of quite a bit of vertical climbing and/or speed. What you have described here does not match that description. However, you do seem to have reached a point where your work stress is affecting your running. You don't have to be "overtraining" to feel quite fatigued by a stressful life and exercise commitments. Again, you have not provided details on your nutrition and it's hard to fit lots of commentary into a post on TH-cam. You are open to email me to discuss further... Be well!
I do not think it is overtraining. By the way, overtraining is not bad, when it turns bad (too much) is called overreaching. Overtraining is when you rest less than what you need, so you train already fatigued (it sometimes can be helpful for elite atletes). About the job, if you run easy I think it just should help you relax and get away of your everyday life, so I think it is not a problem. So I guess you train quite hard, right? I mean, the mileage is not too high, so it must be the intensity of your runs.
I wouldn't say what happened to me was from over training, more like over working and then trying to find the energy to train. I was training for just a half marathon after doing a good few before but was seriously over worked in my job at the time. I ended up with a virus but I was running out of time to train so I decided to go out for a run while still sick. I ended up passing out on concrete and hitting my face off the ground. I got 10 stitches in my nose, I was pretty badly cut all around my face and I hit my knee off the ground and was out of action because of that for 8 months.
Yes, not overtraining, but perhaps "over-do-ing"! It is great that you recognized that pushing too hard was not healthy for you. Hope you're on the mend!
I enjoyed your video，thank you for sharing！I just think this condition is very frustrating because the more you do the worse it gets. I just love Running and i have a bit of these symptoms in my way... I dont know what to do because even one rest day feels like hell to me. I remember before after one rest day i would feel completely new and refreshed.. Now its not like this. What should I do pls dont tell me to stop running 😂😣
Perhaps you should check out my last few videos on exercise addiction. They might help you understand WHY you don't want to stop or at least back off a bit. The truth is that without a significant period of rest, healing from OTS is pretty much impossible. You may have to accept the fact that doing less right now can help you have a more long term relationship with running. I wish I had understood this!
Hey thank you for your reply！I have decided to write you an email to ask you for some advice. I know you are very busy，so if you do not have the possibility to reply，no pressure at all. Yeah I did take 3 rest Days after months and months I never took so much rest. It was the definition of HELL. I exploded on the 4th Day very HARD. I couldnt take it anymore of that. I know Running will not help but completely stopping is impossible for me unless I want to torture myself very hard. I will try my best to reduce the time of my runs.. I have to after all. But its getting bad and I hate it. I was thinking will a protein surplus out eat overtraining？I may have to focus more on protein I think because generally I eat carbs and dont like meat. I know I need rest but will 10 days of just running with decreased volume but same intensity help？I will watch those exercise addiction videos thank you，but running means everything to me... I wanna be back to my long Runs So bad
Overtraining is really hit me down for 6-7 months.Im better now,but not completely.This is a really hard stuation.time time timee...I need to wake up from this nightmare.
Have a look at the rest of the videos on this channel...they can offer lots of support. If you have additional questions, you can email me acaseofthejills@gmail.com
Interestingly, there is research that suggests that cold showers can decrease stress hormone...plus some people like ice baths for muscle soreness, etc. I say if you enjoy them, go for it.
I walked and did yoga during that time. Of course, it turns out that this was no where near the amount of rest I needed to take off. After the break I ramped up to another ultra (thinking I was ready) and crashed out again. It's a very long road. If you have questions you can always email me: acaseofthejills@gmail.com
There I was training just about everyday, all sets to failure, after a poor nights sleep, hyped up on 4 cups of coffee, under eating and sessions over 60mins, walking 20k steps a day. Felt so deflated, retained water and strength just dropped.Switched to 2 cups of coffee, train every 2 days, 40 mins, 6 working sets each to failure. Eat more. Walk less. Sleep and nap more. Strength and endurance is better, pumps are insane. Trying to train to live, instead of living to train.
Low carb diet is an alarm bell, a lot of these symptoms seem related to lack of sugars. Carb up endurance people!
Found this video helpful, especially how you mention everyone’s “sweet spot” is diff for running mileage... especially considering some of us do various forms of exercise along with intense runs: calisthenics, HIIT workouts, conditioning and strength.. biking etc ... overall it’s more tearing down muscle than rebuilding!! It’s scary how the symptoms creep up and we try to sweep them under the rug! Good summary and it’s a great wake up call ! Time for rest 🙏
Glad you enjoyed! Yes, every body is different and will react differently to diet and exercise amounts/intensity/frequency. The important thing is to know that longevity in sport/exercise requires frequent rest and listening to our bodies.
Extreme chronic inflammation in my entire body, muscle aches, muscle heaviness, chronic fatigue, joint pain, out of breath and moodiness... ocd doesn't help switch off from overtraining but thank you for this 🙏
Hypoglycemia, explainable crying, depression, fatigue, abnormal soreness, clumsy, fibromyalgia symptoms. I am ~3 months off of exercise, and I'm still in a rut. I crashed a couple times over the last year, but kept pushing myself on & on. I used to go for 10 mile runs for fun. Tempo runs nearly every single day (rookie mistakes). & dream about being XC champion. Then one day I completely crashed, but this time I felt totally depleted, I knew I was dead this time. BURNT OUT. Now, I can only just walk to class, sit outside and get some sun, watch TV, and that's enough for me. Walking my dog is the biggest thing I can do. I gained 25 pounds since, I just want to be able to run again. I just pray that I'll be able to make PRs again. & not be "handicapped" in physical activities for the rest of my life.
I am so sorry to hear that you are in the toughest part of recovery right now. Honestly, it does not seem so...but the only way from where you are is UP. Keep resting, keep eating well, sleeping well, and taking care of your body and mind. It is a LONG journey, but with patience we can come back. A year later, I am just now starting to feel better, but I have to admit that if I am not 100% vigilant...symptoms can creep in again. It's always darkest before the dawn, as they say. Stay positive and mindful XOXO
You're right! My first month I thought I had a disease, but that storm eventually blew over. I can sit on the couch without cringing now. I am blessed! Thank you for your video series
How are you guys now ? how many months to recover ? :/
@@Mary-gr3mr mary how r u now or are u dead?
It didn't occur to me that some of these hunger pangs and irregularities in my sleep might be due to running. Thanks
omg literally everything I felt! eased so much of my anxiety that I am alone in this ... feeling so much better with guidance of your videos
Used to do ironmans and suffered from constant over training. I only run half marathons now and feel fitter than ever
I am so grateful for your channel. I've known something was a bit off for awhile but been avoiding doing this research. It's clear to me I need to take action, thank you so much.
So glad I could help!! Let me know if you have any questions...I have over three years of research behind me at this point :)
I haven't been able to completely stop, but I've been going 15+ miles/day for months and since I found your content I have been able to cut it back by almost half. I honestly just didn't realize it was problematic until I recognized almost all the symptoms you listed and I guess that was just the click I needed. Thank you so much again. I will reach out if I go wobbly ;)
Great! I don’t have any of the indicators you listed (no period though :) ). Only indicator I have, that you did not mention, is watching this video!
I have been experiencing the same symptoms. Been running 4-5 days a week in cold winter. Am feeling extreme fatigue, hands feel heavy, my legs feels heavy, short tempered, light headed and dizzy, sore throat, flu like symptoms, brain fog. It has been a week now and I still feel very tired still. I will no longer be running. Am 39 years old. My body is telling me to take it easy. I really enjoy running, it makes me feel good but it makes me feel ill. Now I will focus on rest and nutrition and gentle exercise like dancing that doesn't require too much damage to my muscles.
How long did it take u to fully recover elena?
I guess elena died on us. Rip
Thank you for sharing. I wonder if there is too much mileage to quickly. Or diet this was one of the best video coverage on over training
What you are saying at 02:00 parallels perfectly with the mindset of a drug addict. The symptoms keep piling on, you know exactly what is happening to you, but you don’t really care until something exceptionally awful stops you cold. That stubbornness and determination to keep the routine going, pushing to do more and more, comes from the same place as denial does for the addict.
And just like many addicts relapse repeatedly, so do people that take fitness to ridiculous extremes. They often don’t learn their lesson, and get right back into their destructive mindset as soon as they possibly can.
The only difference I see are fitness junkies are often held up and admired by human society as role models. Junkie junkies are quite the opposite. Me? I don’t admire either of them because it is a mental illness and they need to get professional help.
Agree. The truth is that behavioral addictions are quite similar to drug/alcohol addictions, even neurologically. Sadly, there is very little understanding of this and few options for treatment. You are also correct about the fact that because the "outcome" of the exercise addiction is one that our culture finds aesthetically pleasing, it is perpetuated and even encouraged.
@@jillcolangelopsych This same thing happens in early drug addiction as well. Many addicts initially lose weight, look more attractive, act happier and more free-spirited which attracts lots of people to them. This acts as an initial enabler in addiction (in addition in many cases to the network of other people who may continue to enable them throughout their addiction in various ways).
It can certainly help to work with a professional who can identify what underlying behavioral condition(s) (co-dependency, narcissism, underdeveloped ego, etc.) are offering a fertile ground for addiction to develop in. Because there are parallels in the mechanics of drug and exercise addiction treatment regiments and counseling techniques from one can help with the other. While as you said there is not much out there specifically tailored for exercise addiction there are mountains of materials available for drug addiction that can help and are worth looking into.
The key is having a mindset to listen and change, and sadly most addicts just don't have that for a very long time. They end up doing severe damage to their bodies (and more often minds in the case of drugs) before they get determined to find a way out, if it ever happens at all.
For me it isn't how many miles i run but rather not eating enough carbs.
I have a family, full time job, and train for marathons. There are times where this all gets overwhelming and dont track my eating. There are times were i start to get over trained with just 20 miles in a week vs having a high carb diet feeling the overtraing at about 90 miles a week.
My biggest symptoms is just wanting junk food, feeling tired all day, not having good rest at night, night sweats, and not enjoying the run.
I'm a bit older, so I thought my nightsweats were menopause related. Now I'm pretty sure they are running related. I got a few minor ITB and knee injuries from running (40 -45 miles per week), so I would spin hard instead every day. After the knee pain subsided, I tried a 7 mile run and felt like I'd been hit by a truck. I just quit both for a couple of days and my nightsweats are better. I was also constantly exhausted and had a short fuse temper wise. Thank you!
I'm a bit older too, ha ha, and was 39 when I was in the worst of it 5 years ago. I convinced myself I was going through perimenopause also, but no...I was just training too much and not fueling properly. That "feel like you got hit by a truck" sensation after a relatively short run is a very common symptom of OTS. Definitely check out some of the more recent videos on OTS I have on the channel and let me know if I can answer any other questions!! Be well!!
Much better info than the usual 'measure your resting heart rate in the morning'. Thanks
Yes! You'll find that measure is mostly inaccurate and definitely incomplete! OTS is systemic...your body will tell the story.
I ran like you and I agree had most of those , I sympathizes. I stopped getting results in my training when I stopped wanting to.. This is my cue to take a week off. Thanks for the explanation about the swelling I went up two dresse sizes and had to stop running until the swelling went down.
Night sweats and night hunger are big indicators for me. Thank you for the video.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing. I have bumped up my week mileage too quickly. Went from 40 to 60, in like a week. bad decision, i have caught a flu, and i really really feel bad. Il take a full week of rest.
I need help. Trying to recover from overtraining but I think I damaged my pancreas. Was running 10+ miles in a day and then doing 2 more workouts same day. So dumb. If I eat carbs my blood sugar shoots up way too high. 2 servings of quinoa (86 grams) puts my blood sugar past 150. Not sure what to do. I know I need carbs to recover but they are shooting my blood sugar up. I've never had diabetes before. No history of it in my family. Everything started when I added running to my normal routine. Which was bodyweight exercises and mma but I would do the mma and bodyweight exercises in a HIIT style
I am sorry to hear you’re struggling. I can help and answer you via email: jillacolangelo@gmail.com. Too long to write here!!
Hi, I have unfortunately the same condition with exact same symptoms... I was too late noticing... It has been a month I stopped training and I still have days of swollen body and extreme hunger feeling... I would like to know how you coped with this? And how did you know it was over? 😞
Hello Kimi, you've come to the right place. I suggest watching as many of my videos as possible to gain more knowledge on this topic. If you have extra questions, go ahead and email me acaseofthejills@gmail.com
@@jillcolangelopsych thanks for your reply! it is such a relief to see that someone else has already gone through this... I did cry the whole first week as I had to stop running, I couldn't even walk let alone run... Now I am trying to do as less as possible although it is pretty difficult to hold back. I'll check out your videos and get back to you... Thanks again 🙂
I’m a 25 year old male with ME/CFS, and my illness was triggered by what I think was constant strenuous exercise that consisted of boxing, HIIT training, weight training and running every 6 days a week until my body literally gave up. My cortisol levels were that of a Cushings patient (thankfully my cortisol levels are in a good place), but even now I can’t walk a flight of stairs without ATP shortage and a pacing heart. I don’t even know what’s ME/CFS and what’s the damage from overtraining.
Thanks for this video :)
It can take a VERY long time for the body to heal. Also, when you do heal, it's possible that your "tolerance" for strenuous exercise is very different. Three years later, I still have issues if I do too much. The longer you rest, the better. Sending healing vibes!
Interesting, have you found out if it's because of overtraining
Hey I recently started training for half-marathon and I'm starting to experience some symptoms of over-training(fatigue) already and I have been only running for about 3 to 4 miles per day 5 days a week, which makes my current mileage (15 to 20) miles per week. I do have a very stressful career though I am a software engineer constantly facing project deadlines and I am scared that too much training can have a negative effect on my career.
I am just wondering if you could offer me some advice on this matter. I am running for health/fitness not necessarily for competition. Honestly speaking running 15 to 20 miles per week doesn't seem like a lot at all for a lot of people ? Should I give myself sometime to get used to this routine or should I significantly reduce my mileage to accomodate my working stress?
I know everybody is different but you seems to have experienced a lot of over-training yourself and I would really appreciate your opinion on this matter!
Thank You
Hi Jerry! It would be hard to say whether or not you are heading down the road of overtraining based on what you have described here. If the symptom you experience is fatigue alone, that certainly can be attributed to many things including life stress, inadequate rest, or possibly inadequate nutrition, etc. Additionally, if you are trying to lose weight while training, plus have lots of work stress...you can experience fatigue easily. I would love to know more about your age, nutrition, rest, daily schedule, life details... You can email me acaseofthejills@gmail.com and give me as much info as possible. I can take a peek and offer some non-medical advice. Of course, I recommend following up with a doctor or other professional to be sure that you are healthy overall. Looking forward to your email!
@acaseofthejills
Hi thank you for your response. I am currently 28 years old and I hold a job as a software engineer. My job is not physically demanding at all and I end up sitting in front of the computer for at least 10 hours per day working on projects. One of the main reasons I want to get into a half-marathon routine is that I feel like my time in front of the computer is slowly eating away my health.
As you may have heard that software engineering is a cognitively intense career as I need to make sure that my brain always functions at a productive level and that can add to mental stress overtime. I sleep ok about 6 to 7 hours per night but I do end up pulling all nighters often. I often skip training or significantly reduce training volume the day after the all nighter.
I exercise 5 days a week. I typically take Thursdays and Sundays off for rest. I prefer to run 5 times a week each time I run I go for 30 to 40 minutes each session( that is 3 to 4 miles for me at an 10 minute per mile pace). Sometimes if my legs feel sore or tight I tend to go for a swim instead of the run( the swim session tend to last around the same duration of time, which is 30 to 40 minutes of freestyle swimming). I do this because I think swimming is great form of cross training.
Please let me know what do you think of my training routine. I prefer to exercise regularly to counteract the negative consequences of sitting too much in front of the computer but I don't want my routine to lead to any forms of fatigue/burnout.
Thank You
Overtraining is something that occurs after months, if not years, of very high volume training without adequate rest. We are talking about athletes running multiple hours on multiple days of the week...sometimes with the addition of quite a bit of vertical climbing and/or speed. What you have described here does not match that description. However, you do seem to have reached a point where your work stress is affecting your running. You don't have to be "overtraining" to feel quite fatigued by a stressful life and exercise commitments. Again, you have not provided details on your nutrition and it's hard to fit lots of commentary into a post on TH-cam. You are open to email me to discuss further... Be well!
Hi sure thing I will send me some of me details to the email. Can I ask you one more question? How many days a week do you run per week on average?
I do not think it is overtraining. By the way, overtraining is not bad, when it turns bad (too much) is called overreaching. Overtraining is when you rest less than what you need, so you train already fatigued (it sometimes can be helpful for elite atletes). About the job, if you run easy I think it just should help you relax and get away of your everyday life, so I think it is not a problem.
So I guess you train quite hard, right? I mean, the mileage is not too high, so it must be the intensity of your runs.
I wouldn't say what happened to me was from over training, more like over working and then trying to find the energy to train. I was training for just a half marathon after doing a good few before but was seriously over worked in my job at the time. I ended up with a virus but I was running out of time to train so I decided to go out for a run while still sick. I ended up passing out on concrete and hitting my face off the ground. I got 10 stitches in my nose, I was pretty badly cut all around my face and I hit my knee off the ground and was out of action because of that for 8 months.
Yes, not overtraining, but perhaps "over-do-ing"! It is great that you recognized that pushing too hard was not healthy for you. Hope you're on the mend!
I enjoyed your video，thank you for sharing！I just think this condition is very frustrating because the more you do the worse it gets. I just love Running and i have a bit of these symptoms in my way... I dont know what to do because even one rest day feels like hell to me. I remember before after one rest day i would feel completely new and refreshed.. Now its not like this. What should I do pls dont tell me to stop running 😂😣
Perhaps you should check out my last few videos on exercise addiction. They might help you understand WHY you don't want to stop or at least back off a bit. The truth is that without a significant period of rest, healing from OTS is pretty much impossible. You may have to accept the fact that doing less right now can help you have a more long term relationship with running. I wish I had understood this!
Hey thank you for your reply！I have decided to write you an email to ask you for some advice. I know you are very busy，so if you do not have the possibility to reply，no pressure at all.
Yeah I did take 3 rest Days after months and months I never took so much rest. It was the definition of HELL. I exploded on the 4th Day very HARD. I couldnt take it anymore of that. I know Running will not help but completely stopping is impossible for me unless I want to torture myself very hard. I will try my best to reduce the time of my runs.. I have to after all. But its getting bad and I hate it. I was thinking will a protein surplus out eat overtraining？I may have to focus more on protein I think because generally I eat carbs and dont like meat. I know I need rest but will 10 days of just running with decreased volume but same intensity help？I will watch those exercise addiction videos thank you，but running means everything to me... I wanna be back to my long Runs So bad
Overtraining is really hit me down for 6-7 months.Im better now,but not completely.This is a really hard stuation.time time timee...I need to wake up from this nightmare.
Have a look at the rest of the videos on this channel...they can offer lots of support. If you have additional questions, you can email me acaseofthejills@gmail.com
Are cold baths a good thing to do while overtrained?
Interestingly, there is research that suggests that cold showers can decrease stress hormone...plus some people like ice baths for muscle soreness, etc. I say if you enjoy them, go for it.
Hey, did you do any exercise at all during the 2 months you took off?
I walked and did yoga during that time. Of course, it turns out that this was no where near the amount of rest I needed to take off. After the break I ramped up to another ultra (thinking I was ready) and crashed out again. It's a very long road. If you have questions you can always email me: acaseofthejills@gmail.com
acaseofthejills Thanks!
👍 thank you very helpful💞
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