DISAPPOINTING THINGS AT THE NAMM SHOW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ย. 2024
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In this video, we talk about some of the disappointing things about the 2024 NAMM Show.
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hey, it was nice meeting you out there man. I agree, not as much as I wouldve hoped for for my first year, but an experience nonetheless. Appreciate the video!
It was great to meet you too! My first as well. I wasn’t blown away, but it was great to see some friendly faces!
I'm glad Gibson, Fender, Marshall, etc weren't there. People need a reminder that there are more interesting guitars and gear being made by smaller companies.
@@InjectBleach if you watch some NAMM coverage, you will see lots of more innovative stuff.
It seems this year that the smaller brands were more enthusiastic presenting new gear. Also some of the bigger brands you mentioned have such a huge presence on social media that they now probably don't need to have a display at Namm show.
I was disappointed that there is no content on PRS. Love from Texas!
I agree on disappointment about no Mick news. Another thing I was hoping for was an announcement on Dime Guitar Company. Hopefully, I won't have to wait much longer.
Most of the brands you listed in your first bullet point, Jackson, Charvel, EVH, are owned by Fender. So if Fender aren't going, none of these brands are going as well and that also includes Gretsch. Marshall is busy making Bluetooth speakers and refrigerators, honestly wouldn't be surprised if they stopped making amps all together at some point. Gibson/Epiphone decided to hold their own exclusive launch party instead. But your right, these brands showing up would have made the show a little more exciting.
Good points! Definitely sad seeing Marshalls decline. If Slash and Zakk have bailed it definitely says something.
Similar deal with Mesa too, since they are owned by Gibson these days, about them not being there due to the parent company not showing
Honestly I think Neural nailed the marketing side with that sign, cause now we're all wondering what that "soon" means and makes us more aware of their media/releases
It's probably going to be the Quad Cortex II or a 5150 suite 😂
No. They’ve being saying soon for several years now…we’re all over it
@@allstopblue5717 Agreed, I hate their e-mail marketing. I like to stay up to date about new releases but they are very spammy. The Soon-stuff has run its course.
Will you playing with “For the Fallen Dreams” at the Pensacola show? Would be killer to see you play live 🤘🔥
Yes that’s correct!
Cool 🔥🙌
In general, trade shows have been struggling since the pandemic. Companies figured out how to market virtually during that time, and it’s hard to regain that in-person experience. Musical equipment is so personal that it’s hard to understand why companies aren’t coming back as strong.
agree........was supposed to be "back to full swing" this year as they said, but nope.......worse than ever unfortunately.
Was good running into you tho!
Defintely NOT worse than ever but yeah, the big brands weren’t there if that’s what you’re looking for
@@allstopblue5717 wrong....definitely WORSE than ever....I have been going for many years and if you are a guitar player it was worse than ever. more Guitar companies were missing than even the last 2 years. So yes, worse than ever
I didn’t attend NAMM but I did go to Kiesel Connect in Escondido. It was an awesome event and I got to meet a bunch of endorsed artists. NAMM is a dying events as you can see with the lack of manufacturers in attendance. Jeff Kiesel said he sees no reason to spend the money to attend. I think the Kiesel Connect was a huge success and lots of orders were placed during the event.
Glad to hear it was a good time! Yeah I talked to few people as well and namm appears to be dying. That was the overall consensus
@@xanderraymondcharles I guess the increse in flight/hotel/etc prices unmotivates both people and brands to not go, sadly
Neural DSP confirmed in their September 2023 news update that plug-in compatibility on the Quad Cortex will be "block-based", meaning the amp models and effects will be in a block format in the grid (where you can freely move them around). The QC's screen does not have the resolution to accurately display the plug-ins' GUI. Hope this helps.
Stay metal.. ray 😊
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Sending hugggssss and love brother ❤️ always a pleasure watching your videos. Hopefully we can meet some day! If you ever do a Canadian tour
Don’t most plug in companies give you a 7 day trial before they require you to buy it? What would be the point to open a booth when you can just send out trial packages to everyone instead of spending a ton of money on a trade show.
Hope you’re staying safe, happy, and metal Ray!
So I recently got the Fender tone master pro modeling unit, I've enjoyed it.... but very surprised no fender booth to promote it or anything they are working on in the future! Looking at the internal hardware of the unit, it's got the processing power of any laptop, I wish they would give it functionality to import pluggins, and it would be a game changer.
Oh dang that’s a good point. I wish I thought of that haha
@xanderraymondcharles I know you vibe on real amps and plug-ins. Is there any chance we could see you review the Fender Tmp? I would say this is a selfless request, except I'm kind of having problems dialing in a really sick 7 string tone, especially when I start to detune. literally, no one on youtube has a video that can help me get there! Save me baritone lord!
Good point!
Damn dude. Your list of everything that wasnt there, is basically the list of everything i would want to check out.
I heard from friends that many important companies bowed out not just THIS year but over the last NUMBER of years. I think the Anaheim Convention Center and NAMM board charge INSANE fees that companies won’t pay.
I myself started attending in 2005 and WOW!!! It was a massive party! Amazing shows and after parties. Fabulous networking opp. I don’t know if we’ll ever see an event held in California like that again.
No Charvel??? 😮
In So Cal? Thats nuts.
The Dean Booth used to be the Best btw.
It was nice to NOT see coverage from the giant guitar companies like Gibson and Fender. They release the same overpriced models every year anyway lol
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Was interesting to hear
I agree no Gibson and Fender
Yeah neural dsp got the most attention from that show I saw that as much as the razor blade guitar on social media. Lol
Was nice seeing you there and finally meeting man!
I think alot of companies realized they dont need to spend 1000s to promote new gear. Gear sells regardless if they are at namm or not
The amount of money those brands make has to offset any cost it requires to go there. Atleast the big brands I mean you know. I totally agree with everything you said. Same things I thought myself.
Meh blowing $100k for nothing is silly regardless of the size of your company. The big brands don’t need to go to trade shows because business will always seek them out. Much more effective for them to do their own online thing with carefully curated content
I didn't even realize that so many brands weren't there, my TH-cam subscribe page has been getting bombarded by all the other coverage so I never even noticed. I wonder if there is something else going on for all the major players to not be showing up to the one event I can think of to show off all their cool gear.
Great meeting you dude! Always surreal meeting people you've only seen online haha
Someone from esp said they’re alternating the EII esps with the Ltds every other year. So I think that’s why there isn’t any new ones.
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I was hoping E-II was going to come out with a full thickness eclipse in white this year. Bummer! Hopefully next year. Would be sick!
For godssakes... 12 new E-IIs were just introduced in April. Sickest ones ever. They're only 8 months old.
Although I didn't go I was glad the big ones weren't there by their own choice! It gave many of the smaller mfg's a chance to steal the limelight. When you get too big for your own customers.
Gibson and Fender (and their sub-brands) have zero excuse for not going to NAMM.
Fender, EVH, Jackson, and Squire is literally not too far from the convention. The costs to set up a booth would be far less than most brands with booths because they don’t have to ship products and displays from half way around the country or world. Just gotta load up some cars or uHauls, drive from Calabasas to Anaheim, setup, and done. Instead, they cheaped out or didn’t want to be bothered.
Gibson also literally went to LA and did an entire PRIVATE, invite-only event of their own to unveil their lineup. They probably spent more money to make that happen - renting a space, decorating, I’m sure there was some kind of food/drink, having displays made, event staffing, shipping all the guitars/amps/displays across the country and back, flying Gibson staff and board members to LA and back, etc. . . . rather than just showing up to NAMM. Gibson definitely dropped far more coin on their “red carpet” style breakaway event and invested more time/effort in planning and hosting an event that was clearly meant to attract investors (remember that Gibson is supposedly up for sale?!). And even if they wanted to do that, would it have killed them to drop a few more bucks at that point to show up to NAMM and have a booth too?! They were already in the neighborhood after all!
Yeah, zero excuse for all of the above parties.
Fender hq in corona. Stone throw to Anaheim
What???
A convention full of guitars that are priced 3x too high...whats disappointing about that?
Im going to put a bunch of junk in epoxy, add some strings and pickups and sell em for 10 grand.
Interesting that you mentioned the E-II. I just got into guitars about 3 months ago and last week I ordered an ESP E-II SN-2 Snapper in the Nebula Black Burl (left-handed model) and it arrives next week so I hope it’s awesome. I wished there were new E-IIs this year hoping to see if they made any new left-handed version since ESP/LTD shows love to lefties like me. Love your content and your honesty!
An E-II after 3 months… meanwhile I’m almost 20 years in with a squire 😅 nice. Sounds like a wonderful guitar
@@LeirbagFR I’m sure you kill it with your Squire. 20 years is a ton of experience. I bet you can play any type of music when you’ve been playing for that long. A Taylor GS Mini was my 1st guitar I got 3 months ago but I wanted an electric as well so I’ve been saving for an E-II because I’ve heard if you get a guitar you’re attracted to that you really want then it drives you to play it more often so hopefully that’s the case so I can improve. I’ll pretty much be playing this guitar for years to come, especially since new left-handed models are rare so I don’t have much option compared to right-handed guitar models. I hope you can obtain your dream guitar if it is not already your wonderful Squire!
Ray…I agree with you…but, I was thinking, wouldn’t the NAMM expenses be a business write-off for these companies??…I don’t know…just wondering!!
awe man cant believe i missed you, i was there all weekend and was probably around you a bunch but was just checking out a lot of the pedals that were coming out as its what im looking to get. and was over at the mix with the master classes a lot. well next time brother!!!
The absence of a new E-II was a big disappointment; I own two of them and they're great. But no new Prestige from Ibanez either.
And the third disappointment is that Peavey teased the Vandenberg a second time after Musikmesse but we still don't have a release date, and knowing Peavey, even if their high-end guitars are made in Europe, they won't be available for a long time in Europe just as the new 6505 amp series isn't either.
The E-II are awesome...but man oh man..i hate those wavy fret markers ..kinda ugly..wish they would change those..
I've never been, I'm def going next year.
Is that an Ormsby back there? I got one, it's so amazing.
I only slightly disagree; They owe an explanation to their customers, because the customers have a right to know if their purchase is going to be supported, or if the company is just going to fold. They also owe an explanation to their employees and vendors. Great video though, you make an excellent point!
hi ray with these absurd ltd price increases i think esp are trying to phase out e-ii and replace it with ltd which is a bummer move by them.
Buying so expensive Korean or Indonesian guitars does not feel good... I'll stick on Ibanez prestige on these prices!
Your a good guy very humble peace
I think we'll (hopefully) see more at Summer NAMM. Maybe soon will be sooner by then 😂
Yep you named all the reasons why they did not show up. ESP may add E-II guitars later on this year. To me NAMM is not what it used to be and I think they may not last much longer cause it is getting to expensive for all parties involved to keep going there. A lot cheaper for them to just post all their new stuff on all of their social media sites.
EII are not releasing new guitars this year. Cause they are too far behind. I’m still waiting on a guitar I ordered over 2 yrs ago
From all the videos being uploaded about NAMM 2024, it seems like the big players have deserted NAMM and NAAM is now dominated by the boutique builders who seem to be creating more innovative guitars. After owning 1 LP, 1 SG, 1 Tele, 1 Strat, more releases of these same models are just different colors of the same guitar. The boutique builders are trying to create different things and mostly you directly contact the company owners for service unlike the big guys.
Neural DSP's display was pure marketing genius and obvious from the beginning. No need to overpay for a stand, hotels, other expenses... Now everyone is talking about it. Learned anything yet?
Prs wasn’t there too! Paul was there but no products
As a mutual Eagles fan, you couldn’t be more disappointed with the NAMM show then you are with the Philadelphia Eagle’s performance this year!😂
Too soon. Too soon. Hahaha
@@xanderraymondcharles For me too😂 but I saw the hat and had to say something!
Kiesel had their own show. They wanted to show how the baked maple necks look. And are to good for anyone else
Takes time to drop the end all be all Metal LP style guitar.
Kiesel had their own event going on at the same time at their factory. They don’t intend to partake in another NAMM.
Was looking for you but couldn't find you, maybe next year
I have always wanted to go NAMM at least once. With that being said I would have been bummed about those brands not being there either as they are some of my favorites as well.
Hey man, cool video. I think it would be more enjoyable to watch if you didn’t constantly caveat that these are your opinions. People go on TH-cam to hear your opinions you don’t need to apologize for that. It ends up just being a lot of filler and probably hurting your retention.
Joey Sturgis is responsible for every metalcore album from my teenage years 🔥
Ola was out there why not Solar?
stl ignite amphub is the best most accurate guitar plugin period
“I have sick riffs” 🥱😂
Dude when you talk about neural DSP, “they don’t owe anybody anything”…. Really? Lol when you promise a function on a product people buy, you owe it to them lol the fact that after 5 years they haven’t been able to deliver ain’t a good sign…
Subbed for quoting Rotten
No Jackson :(
Denon😢
Yeah no E-II sucks, especially since they’ve cranked the price of Ltd up as well
SOON
The prices of all the gear ?
What about them
Biggest disappointment for me was the lack of the “Big 3” (Fender, Gibson, PRS). Fender and Gibson own several sub brands like Jackson, Charvel, EVH, and Kramer. Definitely left a big hole in NAMM for me.
Seems like you fundamentally don’t understand the trade show aspect. The big three get no benefit from being there. Also Neural has announced the plugin support and it’s coming in a month. This isn’t a consumer show. It’s a trade show with consumers. Their booth with the soon did its job. They’re clearly teasing a product.
namm is gunna die the same way E3 did. it seems farfetched but i feel like in a few years its gunna be a lot less popular and were gunna start seeing brands do online live shows and exhibitions for their products instead. we may not get to be hands on with stuff, but itll be a lot less work and cheaper for brands to do it this way, which sucks for us that just wanna go and try stuff.
You basically named every company under the Gibson and Fender corporations, excluding Solar, who weren't there. They don't need to be lol.
You should do a review on a Chibson.
I'm not sure why NAMM even exists in 2024...
Idk, it was prob better without them there
Not as disappointing as the team that’s on your hat. 😐
My list: no lefties.... end of list
There was nothing NEW and even mildly game changing at the show. Add to that 99% of everything there was deliberately introduced or leaked days and in some cases weeks before the show. I write reviews and even gossip and I had zero new to write about after the show other than the odd variation of an already available guitar.
Paint jobs, pickups or some pointless high end limited edition do NOT make a great show.
A great show makes us change brand loyalties by buying from someone new or from an established company that never offered us products that ever took our interest.
The general public do not care that good or bad it is a very pleasant party for a very few people. So You tubers telling us they had fun means squat!!!!
If NAMM is to have a point it should have all makers but only allow them a small booth big enough for what they offer new. In short we do not need to see another Strat because it is a darker shade of red this year. Such a show would have millions and millions riveted to You Tube and all the music media.
John Lydon is the SHIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!
gHibson makes xpensive T-shirts. What do you want? 😂
Solid brands will stick with sending cats like yourself some gear to review for their promotion and advertising. So look in the mirror Ray, it's your fault😂😂.
I’ve lived long enough to become the villain. My god, what have I done!? Hahaha
I guess this guy's from Philly.
Namm is not gonna be the same anymore.. trash event
Neural is so smug.
That’s kinda how I interpreted it. I think connecting with the fans would’ve been more cost effective
Solar was there🤔
The fact that there were no "big" guitar brands at the NAMM, makes more room and highlight on smaller guitar builders such as "Sully Guitars", or "Cream Guitars", "Balaguer", "Ormsby", "PJD Guitars", etc ....
My god "its none of my business" Stfu it LITERALLY IS YOUR BUSINESS. Quit being a blitch about it
The majority of the brands listed, not there, are Fender brands. If fender isn't there, none of them are. 🫤🤷♂️
I’ll follow you on Spotify if you return the favour 😅
@@InjectBleach I know that, was being sarcastic