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Excellent video. I am looking forward to your video on Octavian and his years after the fall of Antony and Cleopatra. I had written a paper in college about Octavian. Calling him Rome's greatest politician is probably understatement. By all rights he should never have achieved what he did, but somehow, he survived and built an empire part of which would survive for many centuries.
I disagree with your policy of permanently exclusive videos, I think they should be released to the general public after some time. I dont think its the right decision to stop such educational videos to be accessible, they are very compact and have a lot of informations that cant be that efficiently gathered with more traditional sources.
Hello all, I was the historian and scriptwriter for this episode, hope you enjoyed it! If you've got any questions or feedback for me, please do leave them below, I do my best to get around to all of them when I can!
Hey Peter! Amazing job! I loved the episodes of post Caesar civil wars ! I was wondering, would be possible for you to list your sources? it'll be greatly appreciated by those interested in doing a deeper dive in subjects!
@@sidp5381 An excellent question and one that we will cover in detail in the next episode! In short though, there are two different issues here, really. Being acclaimed "Imperator" by an army happened quite often, but that's not the same as being 'Emperor' in the sense that we think of it today. That took a lot of political moving which we'll cover soon!
@@petervoller3404wow thank you so much. I was waiting for so long for a continuation. The scripts were always amazing! Could I ask you something related to something else, I need it probably for university. In 262BC, battle of Agrigentum, you did a video about it (Polybios book 1, chapter 17, paragraph 9-13), foragers went out of the castra and fled. Polybios says that one part now wanted to plunder the roman camp, while another wanted to fight. Don’t you have to fight necessarily for plundering a camp? Then he says, Rome was able to win, only a moment before they destroyed the palisades, by surrounding the enemy. How could they surround a force outside the camp, if they were inside of it? Did the foragers came back?
Anthony is forgotten in the shadows of his contemporaries. He was no politician like Augustus, no soldier like Agrippa and no leader like Caesar. But he was still an exceptional man.
And so it ends probably one of the greatest and most remembered real life epochs in history. Like, seriously. Since the beginning of Caesar's military career to the death of Cleopatra, have the lives of any other real historical figures had as much influence on popular imagination as these few?
@JaleelBeig the thing is... yeah the actions of Pompey brought the East Mediterranean under Roman hegemony, which brought disorder, which led to the emergence of more prophets in Judea. Jesus was among those figures, whether or not you believe him to have a divine dad is a separate story
@resentfuldragon From Jesus to Mohammed there are at least 7 centuries between them, From Alexander to Jesus there are 4 centuries of difference, from Genghis Khan to Mohammed there are 5 centuries. Compare this to the 1st century BC and 1st century AD... Gaius Marius, Sulla, Pompey, Caesar, Crassus, Cicero, Cato the Younger, Octavian, Mark Antony... All of these iconic figures (among many others like Lepidus, Agrippa, Germanicus, and Tiberius) happened to live in the timespam of a century and a half
@@resentfuldragon With the exception of Ali, I wouldn't say any of the figures that surrounded and came after Muhammad had the same influence. Cases like that, Jesus or Alexander, feels like one very talented individual molding the world around themselves. No one in their age and enviroment came close. Meanwhile with Caesar, while he certainly was a game changer, he had a lot of opponents and successors whose mastery of politics and strategy made them famous on their own right. They didn't necessarily earn their fame by just being associated to a very exceptional individual at the moment.
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Octavian inherited the guardianship of Juba II of Numidia after the assassination of Caesar (he was in one of Caesar's Triumph in place of his father who had sided with Pompey during that civil war but the crowd proclamation spared him). Juba was given the finest Roman education, both civil and military as befitting of an treaty hostage. When he come of age he served in Octavian's legions with some distinction. Juba marries Cleopatra Selene II, daughter of Cleopatra VII and Antony and restored to the throne of Numidia as a client king. Albeit, he grew up in Rome and spend the better part of his adult life fighting for Rome.
Today I started my membership with K&G. I’ve been wanting to somehow payback to you guys the endless knowledge you’ve granted me over the years. I can almost proudly call my self a history buff haha
Anyone else feel sorry for Antony throughout all this? And Cleopatra too in fact. I'm personally an Augustus fanboy but still, to be betrayed so thoroughly by everyone must have bit their hearts heavily
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i think there were some indo greek states in india after the conquest of north west indian behind indus river by alexander he left some men there which made different kingdoms probaly anthony was planning to escape to those kingdom
Of course he was far from perfect, but as you said, Antony's bad reputation is quite undeserved imo. After all, the guy was 1 final conflict away from becoming the sole master of the Classical World (well, Classical Europe let's say). You don't get there by accident or pure luck.
I shouldn't have laughed but christ, the string of utter, relentless tragedies and failures and setbacks leading up to Anthony's final end, literally ending in him trying to off himself and failing was so blackly comedic I couldn't help it. The poor sod. Hilarious and tragic in equal measures.
Do you recall how Antony managed Rome while Caesar was away? He was a drunken despot, who allowed the city to fall into disorder when he didn't think he was appreciated enough. He learned all the wrong lessons from Caesar.
It's not mentioned in this video, but it's said that when Antony was hoisted into the mausoleum he was screaming in excruciating pain. @@Blisterdude123
Also were he and Octavian really that different? I mean I think the two men are a fairly classic case of people who became enemies because of how similar they were. And while Octavian was certainly brilliant in many ways, I’ve almost lost count of the bullets he dodged and lucky breaks involved in him getting here.
@@UltimateRaven That Netflix show on Cleopatra was clearly made and influenced by Afrocentrists who believe that Cleopatra was black, simply because she was born in the African continent and ruled over land in that continent. In reality, Egypt at that time was heavily influenced by Greek and Roman culture, and like Egypt's ruling class at the time, Cleopatra's family originated from Greek-speaking territory.
@@ekmalsukarno2302 I know. That's why I said that. Ptolemy was a Greek general who took the reins as the king of Egypt after the death of Alexander the Great and also, her name is literally Cleopatra VIII Thea Philipator. That's way too Greek tbh and people should've looked at it before trying to film that garbage. I am glad that we have that agreement. Although, I wish I have a way to go back in time just to see everything about that place.
@robertomahaffey6172 he could have married a pygmie as well, but there's no evidence of that either. All the wives of Ptolemies we know of we also Greek. There's no evidence I'm aware of that any Ptolemaic ruler married or had children with a native woman. Cleopatra was Greek. Get over it.
There is either a narration or animation error at 3:30, the names/positions of the client kings don't match. (Fix for the ppotential multi-hour summary video I guess?)
I don't know why exactly, but I can't help but laugh everytime the animation appears of the sword falling on a person when he's executed or assasinated. "- By decree of Octavian, I bequeath to you... a gladius on the head !" *stab* "And another for Caesar's assassin's !"
Even though I have researched and studied this time in history all my life, I still enjoy watching these videos. Always entertaining and informative. Keep up the great work.
What a fantastic video! It's stunning just how far the channel has come in terms of production values, with these 4k videos being particularly gorgeous! 🔥👑👏
Constantine P. Cavafy one very important Greek poet, wrote a poem for Antony: The God Abandons Antony When suddenly, at midnight, you hear an invisible procession going by with exquisite music, voices, don’t mourn your luck that’s failing now, work gone wrong, your plans all proving deceptive-don’t mourn them uselessly. As one long prepared, and graced with courage, say goodbye to her, the Alexandria that is leaving. Above all, don’t fool yourself, don’t say it was a dream, your ears deceived you: don’t degrade yourself with empty hopes like these. As one long prepared, and graced with courage, as is right for you who proved worthy of this kind of city, go firmly to the window and listen with deep emotion, but not with the whining, the pleas of a coward; listen-your final delectation-to the voices, to the exquisite music of that strange procession, and say goodbye to her, to the Alexandria you are losing.
Another epic video by the Kings and Generals crew😎 Cleopatra was certainly one of the most influencial and known female monarchs, at least in the western world. One more epic video to add to your Roman playlist😎
Dude was like a particle gravitating around a Caesar atom, when that was ended, he went flying wild. Bet he had the time of his life by Caesars side. Can`t top that.
He was the ruler of the East for 11 years. Even before that, he brought peace and stopped anarchy in Rome after Caesar's death. So, your degradation makes no sense.
Then somebody said in anger: "A fine deed, this, Charmion!" "It is indeed most fine," she said, "and befitting the descendant of so many kings." Not a word more did she speak, but fell there by the side of the couch.
Mark Antony's story is undeniably tragic. After Caesar's death, he rose to become the most powerful figure in Rome after he successfully rallied the people against Caesar's assassins and after the Battle of Phillip he gained control over the entire East, along with its immense wealth and the support of loyal kings. But he was simply no match for the shrewd Octavian and in the end everything he achieved slipped through his fingers . The magnitude of his despair during this time must have been unimaginable. Regarding Octavian's proposals for Cleopatra's surrender, it is plausible to consider that some of his proposals were sincere. This view is supported by Octavian's treatment of other kings, such as Herod. Despite Herod's loyalty to Mark Antony and even naming buildings after him, Octavian allowed him to retain his power. This example suggests that Octavian was not entirely ruthless towards those associated with Antony, indicating the possibility of genuine offers extended to Cleopatra.
Herod was not on the level of Cleopatra, though. There's no way that Cleopatra would stay ruler of Egypt - she was too competent and Egypt too rich a power base for her. At best she would have been dragged through the streets of Rome during his triumph and then locked away. Perhaps her children by Antony could have become rulers as puppet kings (there was no way that Caesarion was going to be allowed to survive - and he didn't), but even that seems unlikely when Octavian had the option of holding Egypt and all its riches as his personal property, which is exactly what he did.
Herod was a snake and a traitor. Even before all these problem started, he tried his best to poison Antony's mind against Cleopatra. He didn't even come to Actium like most other eastern kings. He didn't resist Octavian's force, instead welcomed them like he was the Emperor already. He then asked Antony to kill Cleopatra to gain mercy from Octavian. Antony was disgusted at this and asked him to get lost. Whatever was named after Antony in Judea, are likely because Antony himself bulit them. He had a history there even before he made Herod the king of Judea. If one has friends like Herod than enemies are not needed.
I missed the death of J.Caesar's and Cleopatra's son, who was a teenager at the time. Colleen McCullough has Octavian doing the deed. By the way, her series of novels covering the period from Marius to Augustus sent me on the quest to learn what I can about the classical world, mostly through historic fiction and more recently college courses, primary sources and TH-cam videos such as this.
Yess I’m hyped perfect timing was waiting for a conclusion to my boy Octavian he’s blessed for sure carrying Caesar’s legacy right I also have Caesar’s name i always admired him (:
An excellent documentary. At the same time, I don't think I would have liked to have met any of the major players in this. A lot of ruthless, power-hungry individuals who would stop at nothing to achieve achieve their aims.
I agree with your conclusions about Antony. The Donations of Alexandria were actually very shrewd. The kings of the east would be replaced by his and Cleopatra's children.
Thank you for a most enlightening episode. Suggestion... best is to use blue for the colour of the sea... it is so confusing to see it used for the land alongside the green... Or is my colour-blindness striking up here ?
Detractors: Calling Anthony a decadent drunk. Anthony: Swims who knows how much distance in Actium, in the middle of a mayhem of ships and wreckage and manages to reach Cleopatra's escaping ships all by himself.
An excellent presentation of the final disastrous effort by the two to contend with Octavian. I often wonder had not Julius Caesar championed Cleopatra and actually left the government in Egypt as he found it, what would have eventually happened to Cleopatra? Had she not been sneaked in to see him and seduced him, history would probably have forgotten her name as she was 7th of that name. Who remembers the 1st six? Also Achaea in this period of time was only the northern part of the Peloponnese peninsula, not in mainland Greece as shown on your map.
One wonders how popular history would have remembered Octavian if Antony had been the one who had emerged victorious. Would his legacy have been as mixed as Antony's is, with historians trying to figure out which of his popularly known flaws were based on reality or on propagandic smears?
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Excellent video. Can you make a video about the history of Burgundy as a rich and powerful duchy? Please.
Excellent video. I am looking forward to your video on Octavian and his years after the fall of Antony and Cleopatra. I had written a paper in college about Octavian. Calling him Rome's greatest politician is probably understatement. By all rights he should never have achieved what he did, but somehow, he survived and built an empire part of which would survive for many centuries.
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I disagree with your policy of permanently exclusive videos, I think they should be released to the general public after some time.
I dont think its the right decision to stop such educational videos to be accessible, they are very compact and have a lot of informations that cant be that efficiently gathered with more traditional sources.
Hello all, I was the historian and scriptwriter for this episode, hope you enjoyed it! If you've got any questions or feedback for me, please do leave them below, I do my best to get around to all of them when I can!
Well done as usual, I am curious in terms of emperors being crowned. How is Augustus acclaimed emperor? Was he put on a shield and clothed in purple
Hey Peter! Amazing job! I loved the episodes of post Caesar civil wars ! I was wondering, would be possible for you to list your sources? it'll be greatly appreciated by those interested in doing a deeper dive in subjects!
@@sidp5381 An excellent question and one that we will cover in detail in the next episode! In short though, there are two different issues here, really. Being acclaimed "Imperator" by an army happened quite often, but that's not the same as being 'Emperor' in the sense that we think of it today. That took a lot of political moving which we'll cover soon!
@@petervoller3404wow thank you so much. I was waiting for so long for a continuation. The scripts were always amazing!
Could I ask you something related to something else, I need it probably for university.
In 262BC, battle of Agrigentum, you did a video about it (Polybios book 1, chapter 17, paragraph 9-13), foragers went out of the castra and fled. Polybios says that one part now wanted to plunder the roman camp, while another wanted to fight. Don’t you have to fight necessarily for plundering a camp?
Then he says, Rome was able to win, only a moment before they destroyed the palisades, by surrounding the enemy. How could they surround a force outside the camp, if they were inside of it? Did the foragers came back?
Congratulations ! Amazing work
Anthony is forgotten in the shadows of his contemporaries. He was no politician like Augustus, no soldier like Agrippa and no leader like Caesar. But he was still an exceptional man.
And his lion-pulled chariots were glorious...
yeah he was not cunning politician like Augustus but definitely a better soldier than Agrippa
Maybe not like Augustus but definitely good or better than Agrippa
@@robertomahaffey6172 i mean, Agrippa did beat Anthony, didn’t he?
@@Just_some_dude_guy touche, I'm biased.
And so it ends probably one of the greatest and most remembered real life epochs in history. Like, seriously. Since the beginning of Caesar's military career to the death of Cleopatra, have the lives of any other real historical figures had as much influence on popular imagination as these few?
Imagination? Right then let me introduce you to the son of Mary…
@JaleelBeig the thing is... yeah the actions of Pompey brought the East Mediterranean under Roman hegemony, which brought disorder, which led to the emergence of more prophets in Judea. Jesus was among those figures, whether or not you believe him to have a divine dad is a separate story
@resentfuldragon From Jesus to Mohammed there are at least 7 centuries between them, From Alexander to Jesus there are 4 centuries of difference, from Genghis Khan to Mohammed there are 5 centuries. Compare this to the 1st century BC and 1st century AD... Gaius Marius, Sulla, Pompey, Caesar, Crassus, Cicero, Cato the Younger, Octavian, Mark Antony... All of these iconic figures (among many others like Lepidus, Agrippa, Germanicus, and Tiberius) happened to live in the timespam of a century and a half
@@resentfuldragon With the exception of Ali, I wouldn't say any of the figures that surrounded and came after Muhammad had the same influence. Cases like that, Jesus or Alexander, feels like one very talented individual molding the world around themselves. No one in their age and enviroment came close.
Meanwhile with Caesar, while he certainly was a game changer, he had a lot of opponents and successors whose mastery of politics and strategy made them famous on their own right. They didn't necessarily earn their fame by just being associated to a very exceptional individual at the moment.
octavian briefly tries his hand at being a goldigger
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Thanks!
Octavian inherited the guardianship of Juba II of Numidia after the assassination of Caesar (he was in one of Caesar's Triumph in place of his father who had sided with Pompey during that civil war but the crowd proclamation spared him). Juba was given the finest Roman education, both civil and military as befitting of an treaty hostage. When he come of age he served in Octavian's legions with some distinction. Juba marries Cleopatra Selene II, daughter of Cleopatra VII and Antony and restored to the throne of Numidia as a client king. Albeit, he grew up in Rome and spend the better part of his adult life fighting for Rome.
Another thing about Juba is that it's mentioned he had a library of Punic texts allegedly from the library of Carthage
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I remember my grandmother saying to me: I don’t care what they tell you in school, Agrippa was the reason Octavian won the war...
They don't teach ANY of this at school,..lol~
Winning the war was the easy part. Preventing another one was the hard part. Octavion may have been the greatest politician in history.
Historia Civilis, is that you?
@@matthewmatt5285 It was a reference to Netflix's blackwashed Cleopatra.
@@matebalazs1575 Understood,.They luvv trying to CHANGE history~
Anyone else feel sorry for Antony throughout all this? And Cleopatra too in fact. I'm personally an Augustus fanboy but still, to be betrayed so thoroughly by everyone must have bit their hearts heavily
As a half-Cypriot I'm loyal to my former queen, and refuse to recognise Octavian's occupation. "Not my emperor!" 😄
@@WaterShowsProd Been dead for like 2,000 years wym "my former queen" and "my emperor" 😭
he only got betrayed because he lost pretty much.. everyone likes winners
This series was my favourite of all K&G, hope you keep it up, Rome still have many battles to fight.
Are you guys planning on covering the early imperial period as well? That would be awesome if you did. This is a fantastic series!
Yep, planning to
@@KingsandGenerals Awesome! Can't wait to see it
I was about to ask this. Pls, keep working on Roman History episodes.... till 476 AC hahaha. But pls, do not lose the details!!!
@@KingsandGenerals Glory!
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An alternate history of Antony escaping to India would be crazy! I never knew about that plan before.
i think there were some indo greek states in india after the conquest of north west indian behind indus river by alexander he left some men there which made different kingdoms probaly anthony was planning to escape to those kingdom
he was to old.. and weakened to reform or do anything it was over for him
Absolutely one of the best K&G episodes ever. Really well done.
Of course he was far from perfect, but as you said, Antony's bad reputation is quite undeserved imo. After all, the guy was 1 final conflict away from becoming the sole master of the Classical World (well, Classical Europe let's say). You don't get there by accident or pure luck.
I shouldn't have laughed but christ, the string of utter, relentless tragedies and failures and setbacks leading up to Anthony's final end, literally ending in him trying to off himself and failing was so blackly comedic I couldn't help it. The poor sod. Hilarious and tragic in equal measures.
Do you recall how Antony managed Rome while Caesar was away? He was a drunken despot, who allowed the city to fall into disorder when he didn't think he was appreciated enough. He learned all the wrong lessons from Caesar.
It's not mentioned in this video, but it's said that when Antony was hoisted into the mausoleum he was screaming in excruciating pain. @@Blisterdude123
@@WaterShowsProdI did say 'blackly' comedic lol
Also were he and Octavian really that different? I mean I think the two men are a fairly classic case of people who became enemies because of how similar they were.
And while Octavian was certainly brilliant in many ways, I’ve almost lost count of the bullets he dodged and lucky breaks involved in him getting here.
Can't believe that it's finally over!!!
One or two episodes to go
End of an era. Literally.
Cleopatra be like, "We shall...be buried with all our earthly possessions... like the heathen kings of old."
BRING GOLD AND OIL
@@joshkidd5463 Just don't crown anyone with that gold.
This video was absolutely phenomenal!
Last time I was this early my grandma still hadn't told me Cleopatra was black
But seriously, she is supposed to be white. I don't know what they were thinking. I mean Netflix.
@@UltimateRaven That Netflix show on Cleopatra was clearly made and influenced by Afrocentrists who believe that Cleopatra was black, simply because she was born in the African continent and ruled over land in that continent. In reality, Egypt at that time was heavily influenced by Greek and Roman culture, and like Egypt's ruling class at the time, Cleopatra's family originated from Greek-speaking territory.
@@ekmalsukarno2302 I know. That's why I said that. Ptolemy was a Greek general who took the reins as the king of Egypt after the death of Alexander the Great and also, her name is literally Cleopatra VIII Thea Philipator. That's way too Greek tbh and people should've looked at it before trying to film that garbage. I am glad that we have that agreement. Although, I wish I have a way to go back in time just to see everything about that place.
We only know who her father was she very well could have been half white half whatever@UltimateRaven
@robertomahaffey6172 he could have married a pygmie as well, but there's no evidence of that either. All the wives of Ptolemies we know of we also Greek. There's no evidence I'm aware of that any Ptolemaic ruler married or had children with a native woman. Cleopatra was Greek. Get over it.
There is either a narration or animation error at 3:30, the names/positions of the client kings don't match. (Fix for the ppotential multi-hour summary video I guess?)
I can only hope that'll happen!! I've been going through their Roman documentaries most night!
I don't know why exactly, but I can't help but laugh everytime the animation appears of the sword falling on a person when he's executed or assasinated.
"- By decree of Octavian, I bequeath to you... a gladius on the head !"
*stab*
"And another for Caesar's assassin's !"
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Loving these daily videos. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks!
Another amazing video! love this series thanks KnG!
16:08 Their refusal to kill Antony was likely due to remembering what happened the last time a defeated Roman general was killed in Egypt.
Who is that general?
@@joeboah6040 Pompey I would assume. Caesar really didn't like that they beheaded him before he could get to Egypt.
He was a CONSUL OF ROME!!!!
Even though I have researched and studied this time in history all my life, I still enjoy watching these videos. Always entertaining and informative. Keep up the great work.
Such a great and exciting series. I feel ripe for more series about Roman history and civilization in the future!
Beautiful video the artwork and maps are awesome.
What a fantastic video! It's stunning just how far the channel has come in terms of production values, with these 4k videos being particularly gorgeous! 🔥👑👏
Love this as always!
I'd just caught up with this series and realised I hadn't seen the closure of this particular period. Lo and behold, here it is, today!
Constantine P. Cavafy one very important Greek poet, wrote a poem for Antony:
The God Abandons Antony
When suddenly, at midnight, you hear
an invisible procession going by
with exquisite music, voices,
don’t mourn your luck that’s failing now,
work gone wrong, your plans
all proving deceptive-don’t mourn them uselessly.
As one long prepared, and graced with courage,
say goodbye to her, the Alexandria that is leaving.
Above all, don’t fool yourself, don’t say
it was a dream, your ears deceived you:
don’t degrade yourself with empty hopes like these.
As one long prepared, and graced with courage,
as is right for you who proved worthy of this kind of city,
go firmly to the window
and listen with deep emotion, but not
with the whining, the pleas of a coward;
listen-your final delectation-to the voices,
to the exquisite music of that strange procession,
and say goodbye to her, to the Alexandria you are losing.
Another epic video by the Kings and Generals crew😎 Cleopatra was certainly one of the most influencial and known female monarchs, at least in the western world. One more epic video to add to your Roman playlist😎
Agrippa deserves his own video like subutai ( mongol ).
Great as always 👏🏻
EXCELLENT AS ALWAYS
Does anyone know the song played at the conclusion section of the video?
What a series!
Octavian was ruthless.
pff. so where those before him, and those after. but he did show mercy as well.
thats where the greatest men carved their names in history. they know machiavellian theory even before the man was born
He lived in the era of turmoil, only thr ruthless of the ruthless become the the winner
I hoped you would continue it soon 🎉
Dude was like a particle gravitating around a Caesar atom, when that was ended, he went flying wild. Bet he had the time of his life by Caesars side. Can`t top that.
He was the ruler of the East for 11 years. Even before that, he brought peace and stopped anarchy in Rome after Caesar's death. So, your degradation makes no sense.
Those portraits are beautifully drawn.
From Cleopatra (1963):
Agrippa : Was this well done of your lady?!
High Priestess : Extremely well. As befitting the last of so many noble rulers.
Then somebody said in anger: "A fine deed, this, Charmion!" "It is indeed most fine," she said, "and befitting the descendant of so many kings." Not a word more did she speak, but fell there by the side of the couch.
Mark Antony's story is undeniably tragic. After Caesar's death, he rose to become the most powerful figure in Rome after he successfully rallied the people against Caesar's assassins and after the Battle of Phillip he gained control over the entire East, along with its immense wealth and the support of loyal kings. But he was simply no match for the shrewd Octavian and in the end everything he achieved slipped through his fingers . The magnitude of his despair during this time must have been unimaginable.
Regarding Octavian's proposals for Cleopatra's surrender, it is plausible to consider that some of his proposals were sincere. This view is supported by Octavian's treatment of other kings, such as Herod. Despite Herod's loyalty to Mark Antony and even naming buildings after him, Octavian allowed him to retain his power. This example suggests that Octavian was not entirely ruthless towards those associated with Antony, indicating the possibility of genuine offers extended to Cleopatra.
Herod was not on the level of Cleopatra, though. There's no way that Cleopatra would stay ruler of Egypt - she was too competent and Egypt too rich a power base for her. At best she would have been dragged through the streets of Rome during his triumph and then locked away. Perhaps her children by Antony could have become rulers as puppet kings (there was no way that Caesarion was going to be allowed to survive - and he didn't), but even that seems unlikely when Octavian had the option of holding Egypt and all its riches as his personal property, which is exactly what he did.
Herod was a snake and a traitor. Even before all these problem started, he tried his best to poison Antony's mind against Cleopatra. He didn't even come to Actium like most other eastern kings. He didn't resist Octavian's force, instead welcomed them like he was the Emperor already. He then asked Antony to kill Cleopatra to gain mercy from Octavian. Antony was disgusted at this and asked him to get lost. Whatever was named after Antony in Judea, are likely because Antony himself bulit them. He had a history there even before he made Herod the king of Judea. If one has friends like Herod than enemies are not needed.
"ROME IS BLUE!" - Octavianus
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Democrats won
Excellent video!
I missed the death of J.Caesar's and Cleopatra's son, who was a teenager at the time.
Colleen McCullough has Octavian doing the deed.
By the way, her series of novels covering the period from Marius to Augustus sent me on the quest to learn what I can about the classical world, mostly through historic fiction and more recently college courses, primary sources and TH-cam videos such as this.
Will you guys cover the Ptolemaic Kingdom and the dynasty from King Ptolemy to Queen Cleopatra?
Excellent work here
Great stuff!!!
Great video💯
"Just tell the people I died well. I died Roman."
-Mark Antony.
love the Augustus series!
Yess I’m hyped perfect timing was waiting for a conclusion to my boy Octavian he’s blessed for sure carrying Caesar’s legacy right I also have Caesar’s name i always admired him (:
An excellent documentary. At the same time, I don't think I would have liked to have met any of the major players in this. A lot of ruthless, power-hungry individuals who would stop at nothing to achieve achieve their aims.
Thanks!
Incredible!
It has been years and i just realised this series exist hehe
Oh finally thank you ❤
Nicely done video
Great video
Hopefully we get more history of Rome series also more diadochi videos soon!
Excellent episode!!
Upvote from me : Good vid,all new info for me,as I always believed after Actium,Anthony and Cleopatra's collapse/defeat was immediate.
I agree with your conclusions about Antony. The Donations of Alexandria were actually very shrewd. The kings of the east would be replaced by his and Cleopatra's children.
Great video
Good video thanks
Take a bow lads what a video 🔥💯
good video!
Thank you for a most enlightening episode. Suggestion... best is to use blue for the colour of the sea... it is so confusing to see it used for the land alongside the green...
Or is my colour-blindness striking up here ?
Nice video
anyone know the name of the soundtrack at 18:24?
Wow this storg deserve a Hollywood film
Favorite series!!
I want more ancient history videos
3:33 bit confused here. Is it Amyntas of Galatia and Archelaus of Cappadocia or the other way around?
Should switch them
@@KingsandGenerals anyway great video regardless keep doing a wonderful job that not even schools do these days
Detractors: Calling Anthony a decadent drunk.
Anthony: Swims who knows how much distance in Actium, in the middle of a mayhem of ships and wreckage and manages to reach Cleopatra's escaping ships all by himself.
Damn Mark Antony's last days were really tragic, especially for a man who once had it all. Brutal.
I think it's one of the saddest video on this channel
Damn what a end to a great series!
Is that James Purefoy's Mark Antony in the thumbnail?
Is there any record of Antony and Cleopatra's tomb
Wow, Antony really was completely and utterly betrayed by everyone.
Tbh the whole affair would be worthy of a (NON RUSHED LIKE THE ROME SERIES) tv show
Do a video on the fall of the assyrian empire and the moden assyrians
Sick!
An excellent presentation of the final disastrous effort by the two to contend with Octavian. I often wonder had not Julius Caesar championed Cleopatra and actually left the government in Egypt as he found it, what would have eventually happened to Cleopatra? Had she not been sneaked in to see him and seduced him, history would probably have forgotten her name as she was 7th of that name. Who remembers the 1st six? Also Achaea in this period of time was only the northern part of the Peloponnese peninsula, not in mainland Greece as shown on your map.
Excellent video
Amazing
The wealth of Egypt would serve the Romans for the next 600 years until the Arabians conquered Egypt, 600 years later..
Man, Antony could not catch a break. 😂
The last ending of Rome's greatest generals and Egypt's last Pharaoh!
My grandma kept telling me, Cleopatra was Greek...
so how does this tie in to the burning of alexandria?
It doesn't. Check our Caesar episode
16:03 Historia Civilis: "In true Roman fashion he was aiming for his heart, but in true Antony fashion he missed."
I don't remember that Caesarea was established before 22 BC
what about Caesarion ?
Its sad that the Rome's republic ended with Anthony's life.
Please do a whole video on the life of Agrippa. He was the brawn of the Roman empire and Octavian muscle.
Seeing the portraits of the Roman statues without the colorful paints makes them seem like ghosts.
Imagine if Octavian accepted Antony’s challenge of single combat lol
Octavian would've definitely lost though
One wonders how popular history would have remembered Octavian if Antony had been the one who had emerged victorious. Would his legacy have been as mixed as Antony's is, with historians trying to figure out which of his popularly known flaws were based on reality or on propagandic smears?
There's an irony that in assasinating Cesar supposedly because he had become too powerful- it ultimately ended the Roman Republic.