Peter still seems to forget Oscar got to turn 1 before LN at Hungary and then drove off into the distance. He also forgets that as leader Oscar had pit rights yet BOTH TIMES they serviced Lando first at a track with a large undercut effect.. This Hungary talk is just mental illness. They service Oscar first both times he's gone.. Oscar was reassured just after that first service that they'd sort that out later.. FCOL Peter it's getting old mate..
Unfortunately Peters heart rules his mind. EDIT: I heard him mention the Piastri move on Lando in Monza cost Mclaren a 1 -2 finish, ignoring the fact that it was Leclerc's 1 stop strategy that affected that.
Oscar had that slip up and hit the gravel during his second stint. Would he have had the confidence at that time to hold off Lando ? It's one of landos favourite tracks and he could have chased Oscar if they swapped early. Ironically I predicted Oscar would win Hungary but I reckon Silverstone is when the stars aligned for him. Can he pull off the WDC.... Keeps doing Baku performances yes. Austin and the Flexi wings red bull brings that weekend will decide if verstappen can do enough though.
@@fhoenixx5185 oscar does NOT suffer from confidence issues in the slightest. he’d fight lando tooth and nail for a win no matter if he went into the gravel on new tires
@@hafbintsam he kinda mentioned it in a interview over the European races that he got down the technical issues. His tyre wear etc. he obliged at Australia by team orders to let him through and he did. I don't think that's gonna happen again. All I'm saying is pre Silverstone he had some teething issues but as in politics so in F1 a weekend race a month ago is a long time. I'll dispute Hungary but every race since he is iceman with a lethal look on his eyes.
Very short memories re what happened in Hungary. Lando was gifted an undercut on Oscar on the BASIS HE GIVE THE POSITION BACK. Lando didn’t gift Oscar a win, just gave back the unfair advantage he was given earlier!! 😮
Oh yeah, been commenting on that quite a bit. People want to talk about team orders !! One very simple team order, which almost all teams do, is prioritise pit stops for the leading driver. McLarens (LN) have been undercutting OP every chance they get. LN wouldn't have anything like the WDC point advantage without it, plus the four times (including Australian GP) "move over Oscar
I really have respect for Peter and his f1 knowledge. I find this year he has gotten very biased which i suppose we are all guilty of but i thought as a journalist you should be unbiased. I just feel he was slightly deminishing what Oscar had done by saying it was easier than racing lando against a ferarri.
Agreed, I like Peters analysis, but he definitely has his biases. He keeps emphasising how good the McLaren is, but doesn't seem to credit how good the Ferrari is. Charles was on pole, Charles gapped Oscar by 6 seconds in the first 16 laps, Oscar couldn't get away from Charles on the hard tires, you can't do that in a bad car. At Monza, Oscar, apparently, 'racing' Lando. according to Peter, could only get 5 seconds on Charles after 3 quarters of the race, and Charles was looking after his tires ! Lando couldn't get by Charles, until the undercut, , you can't do that in a bad car. . The McLaren may be the best car, but it's not THAT much better than the Ferrari's, and even the Mercs are improving.
Peter Windsor, on Oscar's win at Baku: "the guy that made the race boring from start to finish"! For me, I was on the edge of my seat for most of that race...
I’m just gonna say it, Piastri is the new iceman. Cool, calm, composed, drives brilliantly to the flag and deals with the hubaloo after the race. I love Lando but he and McLaren are not ready to win full heartedly. Car dominance will always change between teams but you have to be ready to capitalize when it’s your turn. Piastri came in with his head down focused solely on driving the car. That’s the right mindset, he doesn’t concern himself with being the number 1 or number 2 driver or the drama that happens over the course of a race weekend. He has the championship mindset of give me a car and I’m gonna push it to the flag just leave me to it.
Oscar has now beaten lando in 5 of the last 6. If lando can’t beat his teammate, maybe he isn’t up to challenging for the championship. The pile on of McLaren by all the Brits in the media the last couple weeks has been a bit unbecoming, but not surprising. They can’t see their own biases.
@@thetraveldrunk Mathematically, there is at least as much chance that Piastri will finish in front of Norris this year as there is that Norris will be World Champion.
Oscar has the 'TOUCH' or "The FEEL' for driving on the edge. Lewis has it, Max, Schumacher certainly did, Senna etc... He'll win the WDC next year if given the car.
Was finally worth the wait.....to see Lando Norris eat some humble pie. After all this "papaya new rules"........just took one slip up from Lando......and Oscar took full advantage, took his chance, and didn't............bottle it
Lando has never had a problem with wheel spin coming out of corners? You know he was botching coming out of turn one and coming out of the first chicane at the start of Monza just days ago right? He was driving so poorly it isn’t any surprise that Piastri passed him. But he had to lift to control the car after snapping so much trying to get on the accelerator that Charles got through too.
I think he took it as an excuse , cause he already made a mistake in that lap prior to the yellow flag. He was so fast with his decission to go into the pitlane. In hindsight,it feels like he 'copped out' (not sure if that's proper English, but okay).. instead of keep going. I could be totally wrong here. This thought just now accured to me, so pls don't bite my head of. 😉🏎🏁❤️
@@absolutelycarmen: He made a big mistake in the last corner...supposedly .35 sec's...which would have also slowed his long run on the straight to the finish line. He needed to make up .58 sec's so he more than likely would not have made Q2.
Camron you are becoming one of the best in the business keep at it until they can’t ignore your greatness your style your vocab your cadence will be hard to replicate you are forging your own path and we are here with you for the journey! Oh the humanity…
Ok I understand Peter’s take on team dynamics now. Everyone kind of has their own take, I think if the team sets it up, that’s their intent given all of the facts. The mistakes of it, are correlated after the facts. I think McLaren underestimated Oscar. Does anyone think Alpine might have underestimated Oscar. Now take that a step further back, how the hell did Renault get its self defeating nose anywhere near him. The paddock underestimated Oscar. His demeanour is his secret weapon. No one expects it, he just does it. Leclerc realised after the first reporter said to him it must of been a great race given how the rookie just gave us a master class in passing and blocking you the fastest man at Baku for 31 laps. At that moment Leclerc realised he was the NPC in the narrative and it wasn’t a commiseration of his error, he underestimated Oscar and realised how badly he had been had. Everyone just assumes he is a rookie I can deal with later. That is freaking scary when no one on the grid has thought about dealing with him yet, too late it appears. I will add that sly fox Lewis has been quietly enjoying guys like Oscar, he most definitely loves that these people who think that they are entitled getting upset by new drivers. Hey George meet Kimi, see Alonso for instructions I am too old dog for this garbage.
@@yomamasohot6411 I'm a Lewis fan. He's the only driver I'll make exceptions for with a proud bias. Oscar is better on your average Sunday than Lando, and l have no horse in the race. I'm sorry, but Pete and Cameron have been very critical towards McLaren for not prioritising Lando, whilst he's benefited from early season upgrades and preferential strategy. I'm sure Pete "Winsor" Will admit that he was maybe a little dismissive of Oscar. Also, I regularly watch and enjoy Pete's content, but that doesn't mean I always agree with him. He might think I'm full of shite today, but we might see eye to eye at the next race. Please don't mistake my rebuttal for rudeness. 👍
Ouch 😨 But this shows what Lando has to swallow. He has been loyal to McLaren for years driving their crap and now that he can finally harvest McLaren is like: Sorry your on your own mate. I find Lando and Piastri both really great but McLaren is not a team I will ever become fan of.
Remember how bad McLaren was in the beginning of Lando’s career. Not a fair comparison. I get it, “what have you done for me lately “….Oscar didn’t have that experience so all we can do is judge them 2024 onward..Oscar has been right their with Lando for the most part.
Having seniority is not a thing if your ‘junior’ teammate is better than you, your team has to back the driver who is going to win more races.. and that’s what will happen. Just ask Mark Webber or Danny Ric
I think Cameron must have relayed to PW the summary of Cam's last video and comments. ie "Get over your man-crush on Lando and give Oscar some real credit".
The biggest criticism PW gave McLaren is putting Oscar next to Lando, because he predicted it would create issues as Oscar is too good for a no.2 driver. He has repeatedly taken this point. Sounds like he values Oscar, don’t you think?
I noted Oscar's throttle control out of corners pretty early, and with DRS, this is a extra valuable asset. Whether you're trying to pick up DRS and or get a run onto the straight, or to break or defend DRS (sorry if I have stated the obvious for some). I was calling him Professor Piastri. Not exactly like Prost with the calculation of points and places, and Piastri has that sometimes ruthless aggression, which reminds me of Jack Brabham, or Jones, I suppose. I read a comment of someone comparing him to Jim Clark. I reckon that's about the best compliment you could get, whether you're a racing car driver or not.
Leclerc under estimated Piastri in lots of ways. How far back he'll attack from, how good the breaks on his car are, ability to withstand pressure, ability to look after his tires. He'll be prepared for all that in future
@@SaintKimbo Those two are top tier. I remember watching Leclerc at Baku in his Alfa Romeo days and thinking how clean he was and how well he managed to stay out of trouble. Piastri is very similar in that regard, IMHO.
Why was no one else’s lap “aborted” from the yellows. There were two in the last minute of Q1. Max was in sector one (50 seconds on the timer) behind Ocon when the puncture happened - yellow flashed for about 8-10 seconds. He improved on that hot lap. Didn’t abort. Hamilton was behind Norris and Sainz behind him during the second yellow. I checked - all of them improved their time. And the yellow flashes on the wheel for EVERYone. Why was no one else affected and complaining? Norris screwed up. Why did he go wide on turn 16 if he had aborted? He hadn’t until then. You can watch a plume of dust kick up with how wide he went - probably let off to avoid the wall too. After turn 16 it is flat out to the line with good visibility. He screwed up turn 16 and is blaming a yellow. It’s weird that people are defending him.
Lando is all hat, no cattle. Most overrated driver in the field. He's pretty much WASTING a "cheat" car because he can't get through a weekend w/o making one fatal mistake. He's just bad under pressure.
@@chestermarcol3831 I agree that he’s lost at the moment. I still think he’s great - I like him. People forget so quickly how beloved and praised he was. But he is a bit lost. Spiralling in negative thoughts. Seemingly making a big mistake every weekend, compounded by the management mess at McLaren.
Peter is saying that McLaren does not need Piastri if they have Norris. But this is absolutely incorrect, as Norris still makes a ton of mistakes and bad calls DESPITE having 120+ races experience. It's very logical to take a good driver when your "main" driver is not really reliable. I would say that it is similar to Ferrari situation with Leclerc who is also capable of driving great but is ultimately volatile and not fully reliable compared to Verstappen or peak Hamilton.
Piastri is 150% the real deal, zero hype, and unlike Lando, has that true champions spirit which manifests itself in geting the job done, he also holds his nerve and composure when the going gets tough and the pressure is on - a genuine future champion, with one on one race craft, hard racer without the overly aggressive, run em off we've all too often seen with a certain petulant, and to think he's pretty much not long arrived on the F1 scene - bravo to the young man ! and more please.
@@thethirdman225You could see at each race, Oscar has been getting better and better at tyre management, which in turn has led to better race pace management.
@@Toro_Da_Corsa Bull and not Red. Truth is sounds like you are triggered by praise for Piastri, praise that is more than justified. This has jack &hi77 to do with Hamilton, unless like all haters you somehow decide it is. Lando has been around a long time now, long enough for many to have recognised that he struggles to get the job done, despite the excellent car he now has underneath, might be an inconvenient truth for you but truth all the same, get over it. Whereas his team mate Piastri, who has been on the scene only a short time shows all the qualities of a genuine champion to be - fighting spirit, excellent hard and fair one on one race craft, stays calm, focused and composed when the going gets tough/under pressure, and that he can ultimately get the job done, all areas where Lando tends to be found wanting. This why folk are here - leave Hamilton out of it and leave us to give Piastri his due credit - you've come across a bit desperate.
@@Toro_Da_Corsa no..at least not by me. I'm a Max'fan, but asa Oscar joined F1 at McLaren (when Max was still the dominant driver) I already thought 'oops, Oscar could be the near future threath to Max..not knowing yet Max's dominance would vanish like it has. There's just something about him that made me aware already in his first season. Winning Sprintrace even before Lando winning any race. So nope, not trying to put Lando down in favor of Lewis. Just an unbiast observation. 😉🏎🏁❤️
Lando exceeded damage limitations, starting 15th and finishing ahead of the championship leader. Basically , Lando proved once again that he would have won the race if he was out front. His first 2 sectors were faster than Piastri in qualifying
@mvd4436 these SIMPS don't see this. Oscar has a couple of good races and these guys go crazy. Where was Oscar in the Start of the year? Who was performing for McLaren then.
How he emphasises that it is the yellow flag destroying Lando's qualifying. He was down by 2/10s on his own time in sector 2 and slipped on the curb on entry to sector 3 (where he probably lost another couple of 10th at least). He might have qualified but no where near the "I was on track to be number 2 if the yellow flag hadn't come". Peter makes no mention of this. I mean he noticed Lando having a better sector 1 and 2 than Oscar but not the yellow sector and slip up from Lando Also, what would have been the consequences of driving through the yellow flag like Oscar did? A slap on the wrist, lap time being deleted, a ten spot penalty. There wasn't much to lose and he should know that after 6 years. If the team has to tell you over the radio to drive through the yellow, definitely a harsher penalty
Does Lando pays to you for publicity? Last week you seemed so devastated, this week maybe you realize Piastri is the better driver... Have a nice day Sir.
Oscar is everything we wish Lando was, and we may be wrong as to who the real McLaren prodigy is. Colopinto Driver of the Day=given the car yes and it being only his 2nd race in F1 and getting into the points (2) is more than worth it given his whole weekend performance.
You got people saying lando is better cus he’s ahead of Oscar but my guess is if you let them race to the end of the season it’s very possible that Oscar could beat lando
Oscar is the leading points scorer over the last 11 races, not just 7 as all the so called experts keep saying. Don't they own their own calculators or do they all just parrot what others say?
Yeah my money is on Oscar to jump Lando. Hes been putting in great performances all season but had a run of unfortunate strategy calls and damage inflicted on him in the early part of the season. So i think up until now his performance has flown under the radar, just now we are seeing what happens when circumstance lands his way.
In a fair world Piastri would be ahead of Lando on points but luck and team management were against him earlier in the season. In hindsight McLaren would have been better favoring Oscar at the start of the season but that was never going to happen. The next few races are absolutely critical to the future careers of Lando and Piastri. If Piastri continues his trajectory he may become the clear dominant driver. But Lando is still excellent and I don’t think this is over yet. Lets see how Lando reacts
I enjoy Peter's thoughts about F1, but he really needs to not give his opinion about someone who has accomplished far more than he ever will. That is the ever incredible Elon Musk!! I look at what that man has done for society and what Peter has contributed to society and it's not even close. Elon bought X as an example of the good he has done. That's free speech my friend, which so many people from the media want to control. Just look at the BBC if you want to throw stones. So Peter, just so you don't piss off half your audience stay out of American politics and criticize someone who again has accomplished more than you ever will.
7:37 as usual, bad take from Peter. Leclerlc literally had checo breathing down his neck, he couldnt just sit back and distance himself from Oscar to cool everything, else he would be doing it from checo in 2nd
I can only surmise that if Oscar wins in Singapore, the smiles will leave the paddock. Should Lando & Oscar tangle like Carlos & Sergio did in Baku, well then....
@@chestermarcol3831 so how did the tier 2 driver beat the tier 1 driver at the Dutch GP by almost half a minute when they started next to each other on the grid?? In Baku Oscar started 13 places ahead of Lando and he only beat him by 36 seconds.
@@lukew6725a season isn't just 6 or 7 races. Lando is still 32 points ahead of Oscar. One of those races Oscar out scored Lando were the Austrian GP where Lando DNF thanks too Max.
I always appreciate your chats with Mr. Windsor. One of the highlights of post-race conversations for me. The analysis and the respectful banter is always so great.
I hang on every word from Peter Windsor when it comes to F1. But he has the politics of a wealthy out of touch person, glad he cut that short and when back to F1 talk.
Yep, agree. Love his historic knowledge in particular and stories from the past, but came across as a typical elite when it came to one, if not the most, incredible individuals alive today. God forbid you believe in free speech.
@@geomission 🤣 completely agree. I appreciate his content and F1 perspective so much and start to physically cringe anytime he drifts near politics, as it is always obvious that will be a disaster subject for him. 😂 “never meet your heroes”
Pete is Smart and of course He Might Seem a Bit Elitist , He’s Been a Part of the Most Glam Sport on the Planet for Decades.. He Always Gives the Tech Info that We Love and He Dodges a Political Question Brilliantly He’s Smart.. The Only Other Time We Could Get True Inside Information Re F1 was When He Worked for Speed with Hobbs and Matchett all Were on the F1 Inside.. Not like the Talent Show You Get from Sky.. He’s the Best…
Piastri proves he is an awesome number 1 driver and future World Champion. Lando proves he is an excellent number 2 and support driver. I.e Hamilton/Botha’s
I like Peter and I like your take Cameron, but you have got to stick up for yourself against Peter's points. You say something in your hot take videos then you back track when speaking to Peter....
You're so biased, how has he 'won' more races?. He was gifted his first win, if not for the safety car he would have been lucky to have even scored any points. Oscar has earned his 2 GP wins the hard way....AND...including a sprint race. To win a sprint race you still have to beat 19 other competitors.
PW being way too soft on Lando. If Russell has enough wits about him to only come off the throttle just enough to demonstrate he obeyed yellow flags, Lando could have done the same. Lando was up 6 tenths from the cut off time to get into q2, he could have easily come off throttle enough to lose a couple of tenths and still make it through to q2. Thats putting aside the misake he made on the exit curb of T16. Lando just too conservative in that instance and lacking the wit and ruthlessness that he has also lacked in many other circumstances. Such as the disasterous attempts to overtake on Max in Austria. If he had his wits about him, he wouldve let Max cover off the inside, make the corner tighter for him, got a better run on Max into turn 4 with DRS and make the move stick. Instead he tried multiple dumb moves into T3. That also was a 17 point swing in Max' favour in the championship. Norris shows he is not consistent enough, not calculating and ruthless in the same away Piastri showed with his precision move on Leclerc and placing the car exactly where it needed to be to keep him behind. Bottom line, Lando COULD HAVE backed off AND still finished the lap to get into q2. All the stupid comments about a marshall breaking an ankle or a cat going across the track, seriously? That would be double waves yellows obviously or a red flag. Stupid analogy and so frustrating to hear these garbage excuses. Im glad you didnt let him get away with that rubbish and maintained your position that any logical f1 pundit should have.
He wants him to back up the trash talk he was giving Hamilton about having the best car where he has it now n can't even get a podium with it. I've witnessed Hamilton do it plenty of times in a good car as good as the one land has now. So lando needs to prove his shit, but he bottles all the time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He went to p6 don’t forget two place gifted cause Checo.. also GR woulda been p5 but of course gets lucky again. Started p3 and would have ended up further than he started again
Lando should have been 3rd or 2nd or 1st, not 4th by accident. Lando only gained 3 points. Peter wants McLaren to stop being bush league. Bad q1 strategy, insulting instructions to Lando on tire management where Lando is best at it, failing to coach Lando to better corners, failing to coach Lando to better emotional space, 3 race too late dropping Papaya rules, and having two number 1 drivers.
@@cmmnetwork256 so Lando apologizing publicly to lewis wasn't enough? And the recent cool down room, even lewis doesn't care coz he was worse than Lando at this age. You must be a new fan but you haven't seen how bratty lewis was professionally and in his personal life with nicole and I'm a lewis fan myself. Some of you cult LH fans just destroy lewis's image by behaving so childishly.
That had nothing to do with DRS, it was a game of chicken with Carlos far enough ahead that Checo could see what the score was. All Perez had to do was drift left to preserve his race.
Again - great combination of you and Peter. You focus Peter on current issues and Peter has such technical/team management insights. I was blaming Lando for mistaking white flag for yellow in q1 - I forgot that McLaren got him in that box at 30s to go. And I was wondering why Max fell back to Perez - very slight wrong damping adjustment into Parc Ferme - that's why a good set up engineer with confidence is required to set up for Max. And I was also thinking good job Leclerc putting pressure on Piastry, when Leclerc should have backed off, cooled his tires and then waited to the last 5 laps. Great race because the cars are so close, and the track is not Monaco.
Lando will be annoyed about Baku because with his usual excellent qualifying, tyre management and race pace, that victory could so easily have been his. But as an Oscar fan, I’m so glad Oscar had, and took, his chance to show us what he can do.
Cameron, I'm yet to watch your breakdown on Max underwhelming performance in the last 7 races. I hope you haven't caught the bias bug like Martin Brundle. Surely, you hold SLH feet to the fire when he underperforms regardless of the state of the car 😅
For Peter to even ponder whether Danny Ric could’ve won yesterday is frankly blasphemous. For such an erudite scholar of the sport, I’m shockened by his very blatant and overt support of certain drivers. The only time I’ve seen Daniel show that level of race craft was back in 2018 Monaco but he was a well established driver by then, 8 years deep. To coin one of your beloved phrases ‘what have you done for me lately’? His last win was in Monza and we all know what happened there but I’ll remind those at the back… Lando had far superior race pace, but for the good of the team he defended and settled for a 1-2. This is a clear example of helping a teammate. Lando schooled Daniel in 2021 and easily could’ve won Monza. Any suggestion that Daniel could’ve won in equal machinery is utterly laughable. He’s neck and neck with Yuki for crying out loud. This sycophancy of Daniel and Lando makes me wonder if Peter’s actually Horner in disguise. There’s only one no1 driver at McLaren and his name isn’t Lando. Do better gentlemen!
Im a mclaren guy - Im very happy to have Lando and Oscar. Peter has got the driver dynamics within the team so wrong imo. Lando wasn't given a a lucrative extension to be the face of mclaren - he was given it because he is one of the fastest drivers on the grid. I don't believe oscar or lando will dominate each other - they will continue to both win races if they have a competitive car. They are very different, they have very different strengths. This is ideal for Mclaren. Peter says how upset Lando will be waking up after Baku - but I think he will be quite confident. Did you take a look at his pace? it was rediculous. When it comes to drivers, Mclaren have always, always preferred having the two best drivers they can get in the car. This is actually the case for most of the teams on the grid right now. PEople seem to think that the greatest priority to a race team is winning championships. It isn't. Winning races is what they want. It drives their competitive spirit, attracts the sponsors and the headlines, and is ultimately why people spend stupid hours trying to get the job done. The lifeblood of racers is winning races. Having oscar and Lando will give them more wins than having some lesser support driver. Finally, they didn't dump Ricciardo at great expense just to get oscar in as a support driver - they wanted him as they saw in him what it seems the world is just waking up to now. What Mclaren have with their drivers now was their objective, not a problem.
Peter's obsession over Lando is becoming outlandish. And on just what basis is he able to make so many and such dramatic about or on behalf of Lando? Lando is confused. Lando is devastated by Oscar's drive. Lando is feeling sick as a dog. Lando has the worst feeling in the world. He does not even state them as his opinions. He voices them as facts. Just where does he know it all from? Is he Lando's manager? Does Lando talk to him and reveal to him what is on his mind and how he is feeling? Why should we give any more credence to his claims as opposed to what Lando himself actually says?
I commend Oscars drive, but i wouldn't blow it out of proportion just yet. I will be convinced if he performs at this level consistently in the next races. Otherwise, he's indeed a force to reckon with in the immediate future.
We need to understand that McLaren could possibly have the best two drivers on the grid for years to come. They have the chance to develop both of these guys to be superstar. Let them race and gain experience so they can learn to race competitively.
There is a spectrum of acceptable outcomes associated to following safety procedures and Norris was far too conservative and lacks the ruthlessness. Bottom line, Lando COULD HAVE backed off enough to follow safety procedures AND still finished the lap to get into q2. He was 6 tenths up from the cut off time for q2, he could have eased the throttle, lost a tenth or two and still finish the lap to get into q2. If Russell has enough wits about him to only come off the throttle just enough to demonstrate he obeyed yellow flags, Lando could have done the same. Lando just too conservative in that instance and lacking the wit and ruthlessness that he has also lacked in many other circumstances. And this is where Peter Windsor is missing a trick, its entirely connected to his race craft and how he handles himself on track. For example, Norris' disasterous attempts to overtake on Max in Austria. If he had his wits about him, he wouldve let Max cover off the attempted overtake into T3 on the inside makeing the corner tighter for him, got a better run on Max out of T3 into turn 4 with DRS and make the move stick. Instead he tried multiple dumb moves into T3 that resulted in a DNF. That race alone was also was a 17 point swing in Max' favour in the championship. Norris shows he is not consistent enough, not calculating and ruthless in the same away Piastri showed with his precision move on Leclerc and placing the car exactly where it needed to be to keep him behind.
It needs getting Fernando Alonso, now of Aston Martin, to answer the question, "How does it feel to have been Sir 'LionHeart' Lewis' so-called leading No1 driver and experienced his 'rookie' team mate at McLaren, totally outshine him?" (a then back-to-back, double F1 world champion) and all he could do in response was to block/hold him up in the pit lane and blackmail Ron Dennis boss of McLaren, with releasing incriminating e-mails (that culminated in a FiA imposed fine of USD $100Million), unless Hamilton's successful enthusiasm was curbed big time, allowing him, (Alonso), a clear path to win Grand Prix . . . After 20 odd years on The Grid in racing and to show for it, he has only a rep for some great drives in truth and a couple of F1 GP WDC TITLES (2005 & 2006) won before Hamilton was even in Formula 1. Whereas, the legendary 'Dark Knight', Sir 'LionHeart' Lewis, has so far:The sport's only claim to be a CENTURION 105×F1 GP VICTORIES 104×F1 GP POLE POSITIONS 201×F1 GP PODIUM FINISHES USD $100MILLION p.a. salary and a multi-year contract in 2025 & soon it'll be: Ferrari red's th' colour, F1 Grand Prix's th' name; Then y'hear Sir 'LionHeart' holler, "Y'know, winning is my game!" 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 8×F1 GP WDC TITLES ***sung to Chelsea FC's mantra: "Blue is th' colour, Football is the game; We're all here together, And winning is our aim!"😊 Just Sir 'LionHeart' Lewis Hamilton signing to race for Scuderia Ferrari put USD $7BILLION on Ferrari share value. Ferrari sell supercars internationally, at a USD $MILLION a pop or more, so the only head that needs to be troubled at present, is Toto 'penny-pinching' Wolff - part owner and team principal of Mercedes AMG. He lost the team its most orized asset.🎉 The Netherlander, Max Verstappen, is also finding out, "Uneasy lies a head that wears a crown!" The English Immortal Bard: William Shakespeare's play: 'King Henry IV, Part Two'; that conveys the difficulties of being a king or someone with great kingship responsibilities. (The line appears in Act III, Scene I of that famous theatrical piece). Hamilton also knows all about that syndrome . . .
Tires weren't the issue for Gilles, he went out for a late qually run at Zolder because Pironi had pipped him for pole...and after Imola he HATED Pironi. Sadly his intense passion bit him hard.
@@yassverthat corona virus got DTS the views because people didn't have nothing to watch and all of a sudden F1 has become one of the most popular sports and has a shitload more fans and of which most of them had probably never watched a F1 race in their lives but are now experts 😂👍
I don't know what McLaren changed in their cars but it seems almost "too good to be true" if you catch my drift. Lando not having problems with wheel spin? Are you f*cking kidding me? LOL Have you WATCHED his starts? Piastri is the better driver. With the "CAR" they've given Lando, HE is the only thing holding it back.
Love mr windsor But always going on and on about how you should only have one good racer in the team … F1 would be quite boring if that was always the case. Glad it isn’t
Peter Whinger is full of it ,anti Aussie and pro Brit, he is desperately eating humble pie here, if Charles backed off for 5 laps or so, Oscar would have been down the road in clean air..l struggle with this so called expert's salty comments , Lando is good ,though the Aussie is better.
I find it interesting that very few F1 drivers seem to use a coach routinely. Other sports even individual ones such as tennis the coach is seen as integral but not F1.
I don’t think there’s an issue with different compounds it’s more that in general they’re way too fragile and it’s now there’s way too much importance on tyre temps. If you sneeze on these tyres they overheat and everyone has to adopt the exact same driving style which some people are lucky to have that as their base and others aren’t
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Peter still seems to forget Oscar got to turn 1 before LN at Hungary and then drove off into the distance. He also forgets that as leader Oscar had pit rights yet BOTH TIMES they serviced Lando first at a track with a large undercut effect.. This Hungary talk is just mental illness. They service Oscar first both times he's gone.. Oscar was reassured just after that first service that they'd sort that out later.. FCOL Peter it's getting old mate..
Yep they just don't get it
Unfortunately Peters heart rules his mind.
EDIT: I heard him mention the Piastri move on Lando in Monza cost Mclaren a 1 -2 finish, ignoring the fact that it was Leclerc's 1 stop strategy that affected that.
Oscar had that slip up and hit the gravel during his second stint. Would he have had the confidence at that time to hold off Lando ? It's one of landos favourite tracks and he could have chased Oscar if they swapped early. Ironically I predicted Oscar would win Hungary but I reckon Silverstone is when the stars aligned for him. Can he pull off the WDC.... Keeps doing Baku performances yes. Austin and the Flexi wings red bull brings that weekend will decide if verstappen can do enough though.
@@fhoenixx5185 oscar does NOT suffer from confidence issues in the slightest. he’d fight lando tooth and nail for a win no matter if he went into the gravel on new tires
@@hafbintsam he kinda mentioned it in a interview over the European races that he got down the technical issues. His tyre wear etc. he obliged at Australia by team orders to let him through and he did. I don't think that's gonna happen again. All I'm saying is pre Silverstone he had some teething issues but as in politics so in F1 a weekend race a month ago is a long time. I'll dispute Hungary but every race since he is iceman with a lethal look on his eyes.
Very short memories re what happened in Hungary. Lando was gifted an undercut on Oscar on the BASIS HE GIVE THE POSITION BACK. Lando didn’t gift Oscar a win, just gave back the unfair advantage he was given earlier!! 😮
Yep it's never going to stop and it seems like people just don't get it
Oh yeah, been commenting on that quite a bit. People want to talk about team orders !! One very simple team order, which almost all teams do, is prioritise pit stops for the leading driver. McLarens (LN) have been undercutting OP every chance they get. LN wouldn't have anything like the WDC point advantage without it, plus the four times (including Australian GP) "move over Oscar
@@Orry08-t7i 👍👍
@@aroundthebend1 twice
Utter nonsense. Piastri went off the track and that's what made the undercut possible.
I really have respect for Peter and his f1 knowledge. I find this year he has gotten very biased which i suppose we are all guilty of but i thought as a journalist you should be unbiased. I just feel he was slightly deminishing what Oscar had done by saying it was easier than racing lando against a ferarri.
PW will diminish all of Oscar's race moves in 2024 as he is so invested in Lando.
Agreed, I like Peters analysis, but he definitely has his biases.
He keeps emphasising how good the McLaren is, but doesn't seem to credit how good the Ferrari is.
Charles was on pole, Charles gapped Oscar by 6 seconds in the first 16 laps, Oscar couldn't get away from Charles on the hard tires, you can't do that in a bad car.
At Monza, Oscar, apparently, 'racing' Lando. according to Peter, could only get 5 seconds on Charles after 3 quarters of the race, and Charles was looking after his tires ! Lando couldn't get by Charles, until the undercut, , you can't do that in a bad car.
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The McLaren may be the best car, but it's not THAT much better than the Ferrari's, and even the Mercs are improving.
@@LeslieGriffin-dg1yj 100% agree. Peter needs to go
@@SaintKimbo yes Ferrari had the best car in Baku but to me it all goes to Oscar's brilliance!
Useless comments
Peter Windsor, on Oscar's win at Baku: "the guy that made the race boring from start to finish"!
For me, I was on the edge of my seat for most of that race...
You would think the main fight would be Max vs Lando but it turns out it’s Piastri vs Lando and Max vs his own car.
hmmmm that's well put to words
Max V Perez is back
@o0oStillWeRiseo0o Early days on that, as I am a Checo fan I hope such is the case but he is not the favorite.
max vs his car? isn't what we call a bad driver?
To tell the truth I thought it would be Max again, without a fight. Now people who are newer fans can see something better! F1 at it’s best!!!
Cameron I don't always agree with you but you deserve 200,000 plus subscribers! I appreciate all your hard work 👍🏾
Ah, thank you so much. This means more than you might realise. 🙏🏾
@@Cameron-Cc This Lando bashing and Piastri wish casting is partisan in nature. LH and MV fans both hate Lando now.
I’m just gonna say it, Piastri is the new iceman. Cool, calm, composed, drives brilliantly to the flag and deals with the hubaloo after the race.
I love Lando but he and McLaren are not ready to win full heartedly. Car dominance will always change between teams but you have to be ready to capitalize when it’s your turn.
Piastri came in with his head down focused solely on driving the car. That’s the right mindset, he doesn’t concern himself with being the number 1 or number 2 driver or the drama that happens over the course of a race weekend. He has the championship mindset of give me a car and I’m gonna push it to the flag just leave me to it.
Piastri the new iceman.
Next season Kimi Antonelli will join the track.
Raikkonen was spotted at Monza….
Yes, the Kimi Konspiracy is showing!
Bwoah!
Ice Cold Oscar Piastri
Oscar has now beaten lando in 5 of the last 6. If lando can’t beat his teammate, maybe he isn’t up to challenging for the championship.
The pile on of McLaren by all the Brits in the media the last couple weeks has been a bit unbecoming, but not surprising. They can’t see their own biases.
@@thetraveldrunk Mathematically, there is at least as much chance that Piastri will finish in front of Norris this year as there is that Norris will be World Champion.
Great video Cameron. Peter Windsor is such an inquisitive encyclopaedia with an abundance of F1 knowledge to share. Thanks for the videos!
No, thank you for watching sir 🙏🏾
Oscar has the 'TOUCH' or "The FEEL' for driving on the edge. Lewis has it, Max, Schumacher certainly did, Senna etc...
He'll win the WDC next year if given the car.
The yellow flag ended up being the perfect disguise for another Norris mistake
FIRST TIME PRAISE of OSCAR?!????, PW? 😮
Amazing.
The hate for Oscar remains. 😅
To say Oscar's drive was not worthy of DOTD, LOL.
Was finally worth the wait.....to see Lando Norris eat some humble pie. After all this "papaya new rules"........just took one slip up from Lando......and Oscar took full advantage, took his chance, and didn't............bottle it
I'm sick of this unwarranted hatred for Lando.
@@purpledahlia1969 Wow. Welcome to how most Australian F1 fans have felt for decades...not nice is it
For people that don't know who Alan Jones is he is an Australian former F1 world champion who raced for Willams in the 80s
He only won 1 Drivers Championship, 1980.
@@SaintKimbo yeah sorry my bad thought it was two and didn't want to google it to make sure 😆👍
Lando has never had a problem with wheel spin coming out of corners? You know he was botching coming out of turn one and coming out of the first chicane at the start of Monza just days ago right? He was driving so poorly it isn’t any surprise that Piastri passed him. But he had to lift to control the car after snapping so much trying to get on the accelerator that Charles got through too.
Can’t criticize lando for following safety protocols. He should actually be commended
You don't have to slow until you GET to the yellow flag.
I think he took it as an excuse , cause he already made a mistake in that lap prior to the yellow flag. He was so fast with his decission to go into the pitlane. In hindsight,it feels like he 'copped out' (not sure if that's proper English, but okay).. instead of keep going. I could be totally wrong here. This thought just now accured to me, so pls don't bite my head of. 😉🏎🏁❤️
@@absolutelycarmen: He made a big mistake in the last corner...supposedly .35 sec's...which would have also slowed his long run on the straight to the finish line. He needed to make up .58 sec's so he more than likely would not have made Q2.
Camron you are becoming one of the best in the business keep at it until they can’t ignore your greatness your style your vocab your cadence will be hard to replicate you are forging your own path and we are here with you for the journey! Oh the humanity…
Uffff! This means the most! Thank you so much. We'll get there in the end 😃🍻
Piastri was the coolest cucumber in Baku
There is merchandise somewhere in this. Cucumber themed piastri t-shirts, make it happen.
PW probably still thinks the Oscar should have stuck with Alpine - So I take his talk on driving parings with a grain of salt.
Ok I understand Peter’s take on team dynamics now.
Everyone kind of has their own take, I think if the team sets it up, that’s their intent given all of the facts.
The mistakes of it, are correlated after the facts. I think McLaren underestimated Oscar.
Does anyone think Alpine might have underestimated Oscar.
Now take that a step further back, how the hell did Renault get its self defeating nose anywhere near him. The paddock underestimated Oscar.
His demeanour is his secret weapon. No one expects it, he just does it. Leclerc realised after the first reporter said to him it must of been a great race given how the rookie just gave us a master class in passing and blocking you the fastest man at Baku for 31 laps.
At that moment Leclerc realised he was the NPC in the narrative and it wasn’t a commiseration of his error, he underestimated Oscar and realised how badly he had been had.
Everyone just assumes he is a rookie I can deal with later. That is freaking scary when no one on the grid has thought about dealing with him yet, too late it appears.
I will add that sly fox Lewis has been quietly enjoying guys like Oscar, he most definitely loves that these people who think that they are entitled getting upset by new drivers. Hey George meet Kimi, see Alonso for instructions I am too old dog for this garbage.
Good point. Lando underestimated Oscar too in Monza. He got pole, got a clean start, then suddenly he got mugged.
All that is well and good. But never ever say “must of”(line 8) ever again. It makes you look like an idiot
No, Pete. You're most definitely a Lando fan.
And you are a Piastri fanboy. So what?
@@yomamasohot6411 I'm a Lewis fan. He's the only driver I'll make exceptions for with a proud bias.
Oscar is better on your average Sunday than Lando, and l have no horse in the race.
I'm sorry, but Pete and Cameron have been very critical towards McLaren for not prioritising Lando, whilst he's benefited from early season upgrades and preferential strategy.
I'm sure Pete "Winsor" Will admit that he was maybe a little dismissive of Oscar.
Also, I regularly watch and enjoy Pete's content, but that doesn't mean I always agree with him. He might think I'm full of shite today, but we might see eye to eye at the next race.
Please don't mistake my rebuttal for rudeness. 👍
@@yomamasohot6411 Pete said he wasn't. Reko didn't say anything
To be fair to peter.. He was one of the first people to say, to watch for oscar, who will be problem for lando, before the season started....
Has Oscar won more "F1 races" than Lando, now?
* OP: 2/39 GP; 1/9 Sprint
* LN: 2/121 GP; 0/15 Sprint.
Yes, it's the way he drives...ice cold, no mistakes.
Have you figured it out yet? Who's the best driver?
Oscar = Iceman
Ouch 😨 But this shows what Lando has to swallow. He has been loyal to McLaren for years driving their crap and now that he can finally harvest McLaren is like: Sorry your on your own mate. I find Lando and Piastri both really great but McLaren is not a team I will ever become fan of.
Remember how bad McLaren was in the beginning of Lando’s career. Not a fair comparison. I get it, “what have you done for me lately “….Oscar didn’t have that experience so all we can do is judge them 2024 onward..Oscar has been right their with Lando for the most part.
Having seniority is not a thing if your ‘junior’ teammate is better than you, your team has to back the driver who is going to win more races.. and that’s what will happen. Just ask Mark Webber or Danny Ric
@@Dani-it5sy That's a strange way of looking at it. Perez is loyal - should he be given No. 1 status?
I think Cameron must have relayed to PW the summary of Cam's last video and comments. ie "Get over your man-crush on Lando and give Oscar some real credit".
Yeah for once it seemed like he gave him some sort of 👍
The biggest criticism PW gave McLaren is putting Oscar next to Lando, because he predicted it would create issues as Oscar is too good for a no.2 driver. He has repeatedly taken this point.
Sounds like he values Oscar, don’t you think?
I hate to say it, Lando is done... piastri is a stone cold killer... WC in the making. Lov it!
Thanks lads for great wrap up !
Best race in years. My poor old heart got a workout!❤
Yeah I agree it was exciting I was literally biting my nails and on the edge of my bed watching it👍
I noted Oscar's throttle control out of corners pretty early, and with DRS, this is a extra valuable asset. Whether you're trying to pick up DRS and or get a run onto the straight, or to break or defend DRS (sorry if I have stated the obvious for some).
I was calling him Professor Piastri. Not exactly like Prost with the calculation of points and places, and Piastri has that sometimes ruthless aggression, which reminds me of Jack Brabham, or
Jones, I suppose. I read a comment of someone comparing him to Jim Clark. I reckon that's about the best compliment you could get, whether you're a racing car driver or not.
I’m not sure what is wrong in Lando’s head but something is. Failing to hold pole for the first lap 7/7 is just such a powerful stat.
Lando might be quicker over one lap, but Oscar has better race pace…
Peter is such a Lando apologetic, he could never admit that Lando hasn't got the type of hunger and craft required of a champion
Piastri is calmer version of Verstappen😂😂
wrong. He doesn’t crash into people like Max used to.
@@ljnouata9088 you have to take into account the difference in age and maturity when entering F1.
Leclerc under estimated Piastri in lots of ways.
How far back he'll attack from, how good the breaks on his car are, ability to withstand pressure, ability to look after his tires. He'll be prepared for all that in future
*brakes
No, Leclerc knows how good Piastri is, he commented on how fast and clean Oscar was at Monza in an interview.
@@SaintKimbo Those two are top tier. I remember watching Leclerc at Baku in his Alfa Romeo days and thinking how clean he was and how well he managed to stay out of trouble. Piastri is very similar in that regard, IMHO.
Why was no one else’s lap “aborted” from the yellows. There were two in the last minute of Q1.
Max was in sector one (50 seconds on the timer) behind Ocon when the puncture happened - yellow flashed for about 8-10 seconds. He improved on that hot lap. Didn’t abort. Hamilton was behind Norris and Sainz behind him during the second yellow.
I checked - all of them improved their time. And the yellow flashes on the wheel for EVERYone.
Why was no one else affected and complaining?
Norris screwed up. Why did he go wide on turn 16 if he had aborted? He hadn’t until then.
You can watch a plume of dust kick up with how wide he went - probably let off to avoid the wall too. After turn 16 it is flat out to the line with good visibility. He screwed up turn 16 and is blaming a yellow. It’s weird that people are defending him.
Lando is all hat, no cattle. Most overrated driver in the field. He's pretty much WASTING a "cheat" car because he can't get through a weekend w/o making one fatal mistake. He's just bad under pressure.
@@chestermarcol3831 I agree that he’s lost at the moment. I still think he’s great - I like him. People forget so quickly how beloved and praised he was.
But he is a bit lost. Spiralling in negative thoughts. Seemingly making a big mistake every weekend, compounded by the management mess at McLaren.
@@fierce8943 I like him too, I just think Piastri is a consistently better driver. It's just my opinion after all.
Peter is saying that McLaren does not need Piastri if they have Norris. But this is absolutely incorrect, as Norris still makes a ton of mistakes and bad calls DESPITE having 120+ races experience. It's very logical to take a good driver when your "main" driver is not really reliable. I would say that it is similar to Ferrari situation with Leclerc who is also capable of driving great but is ultimately volatile and not fully reliable compared to Verstappen or peak Hamilton.
Piastri is 150% the real deal, zero hype, and unlike Lando, has that true champions spirit which manifests itself in geting the job done, he also holds his nerve and composure when the going gets tough and the pressure is on - a genuine future champion, with one on one race craft, hard racer without the overly aggressive, run em off we've all too often seen with a certain petulant, and to think he's pretty much not long arrived on the F1 scene - bravo to the young man ! and more please.
Six races ago people were saying Piastri needed to learn about tyre management.
Job done.
@@thethirdman225You could see at each race, Oscar has been getting better and better at tyre management, which in turn has led to better race pace management.
Blah blah blah. This is all wish casting by hamilton fans to cut Lando down. Because everyone hates Lando now yeehaw. 😂
@@Toro_Da_Corsa Bull and not Red. Truth is sounds like you are triggered by praise for Piastri, praise that is more than justified. This has jack &hi77 to do with Hamilton, unless like all haters you somehow decide it is. Lando has been around a long time now, long enough for many to have recognised that he struggles to get the job done, despite the excellent car he now has underneath, might be an inconvenient truth for you but truth all the same, get over it. Whereas his team mate Piastri, who has been on the scene only a short time shows all the qualities of a genuine champion to be - fighting spirit, excellent hard and fair one on one race craft, stays calm, focused and composed when the going gets tough/under pressure, and that he can ultimately get the job done, all areas where Lando tends to be found wanting. This why folk are here - leave Hamilton out of it and leave us to give Piastri his due credit - you've come across a bit desperate.
@@Toro_Da_Corsa no..at least not by me. I'm a Max'fan, but asa Oscar joined F1 at McLaren (when Max was still the dominant driver) I already thought 'oops, Oscar could be the near future threath to Max..not knowing yet Max's dominance would vanish like it has. There's just something about him that made me aware already in his first season. Winning Sprintrace even before Lando winning any race. So nope, not trying to put Lando down in favor of Lewis. Just an unbiast observation. 😉🏎🏁❤️
Lando is not McLaren’s guy…they have undone Lando as much as Lando has undone himself. Oscar drove an impressive race.
Lando exceeded damage limitations, starting 15th and finishing ahead of the championship leader. Basically , Lando proved once again that he would have won the race if he was out front. His first 2 sectors were faster than Piastri in qualifying
@mvd4436 these SIMPS don't see this. Oscar has a couple of good races and these guys go crazy.
Where was Oscar in the Start of the year? Who was performing for McLaren then.
Norris lost 0.35 seconds due to a crap exit out of the last turn on his final Q1 run. That was all his own doing
Have you seen this telemetry
@@jackworsley6210 yes
Must have been wheel spin 😂😂
@@purchville There’s a whole video disproving your thoughts on this
Oscar is calculated, controlled demolition!
Is peter windsor landos press agent 0r is he secretly landos old man ? Ooh the humanity.
Lando's other Daddy?
I think Nicole Piastri turned him down once
@@OscarTahr🤣
How he emphasises that it is the yellow flag destroying Lando's qualifying. He was down by 2/10s on his own time in sector 2 and slipped on the curb on entry to sector 3 (where he probably lost another couple of 10th at least). He might have qualified but no where near the "I was on track to be number 2 if the yellow flag hadn't come". Peter makes no mention of this. I mean he noticed Lando having a better sector 1 and 2 than Oscar but not the yellow sector and slip up from Lando
Also, what would have been the consequences of driving through the yellow flag like Oscar did? A slap on the wrist, lap time being deleted, a ten spot penalty. There wasn't much to lose and he should know that after 6 years. If the team has to tell you over the radio to drive through the yellow, definitely a harsher penalty
It's called X. Musk is killing it. Zip it and focus on F1.
Here Here
Does Lando pays to you for publicity? Last week you seemed so devastated, this week maybe you realize Piastri is the better driver... Have a nice day Sir.
Yeah Piastri got a sort of congratulations from Peter for that drive I think 🤔👍
Because noone is allowed a different opinion to you...
If Oscar was better, wouldn’t he be faster
Oscar is everything we wish Lando was, and we may be wrong as to who the real McLaren prodigy is. Colopinto Driver of the Day=given the car yes and it being only his 2nd race in F1 and getting into the points (2) is more than worth it given his whole weekend performance.
You got people saying lando is better cus he’s ahead of Oscar but my guess is if you let them race to the end of the season it’s very possible that Oscar could beat lando
Oscar is the leading points scorer over the last 11 races, not just 7 as all the so called experts keep saying. Don't they own their own calculators or do they all just parrot what others say?
@@simonmiller5118 sadly I think we know the answer
@@simonmiller5118yep parrots they see or hear something and think yeah that will do👍
Yeah my money is on Oscar to jump Lando. Hes been putting in great performances all season but had a run of unfortunate strategy calls and damage inflicted on him in the early part of the season. So i think up until now his performance has flown under the radar, just now we are seeing what happens when circumstance lands his way.
In a fair world Piastri would be ahead of Lando on points but luck and team management were against him earlier in the season.
In hindsight McLaren would have been better favoring Oscar at the start of the season but that was never going to happen.
The next few races are absolutely critical to the future careers of Lando and Piastri.
If Piastri continues his trajectory he may become the clear dominant driver.
But Lando is still excellent and I don’t think this is over yet.
Lets see how Lando reacts
I enjoy Peter's thoughts about F1, but he really needs to not give his opinion about someone who has accomplished far more than he ever will. That is the ever incredible Elon Musk!! I look at what that man has done for society and what Peter has contributed to society and it's not even close. Elon bought X as an example of the good he has done. That's free speech my friend, which so many people from the media want to control. Just look at the BBC if you want to throw stones. So Peter, just so you don't piss off half your audience stay out of American politics and criticize someone who again has accomplished more than you ever will.
Agreed! Elon Musk is a legend, the groupthink hatred against him is quite preposterous actually
Elon Musk is a blithering figure.
7:37 as usual, bad take from Peter. Leclerlc literally had checo breathing down his neck, he couldnt just sit back and distance himself from Oscar to cool everything, else he would be doing it from checo in 2nd
He hasn't won more races. Peter stating a none fact!
I can only surmise that if Oscar wins in Singapore, the smiles will leave the paddock. Should Lando & Oscar tangle like Carlos & Sergio did in Baku, well then....
What. Was that like a congratulations from Peter to Oscar🤔
Why the low grade hate for Elon Musk?
Because he is woke and the media. Glad I wasn't the only one to see his unwarranted BS comment.
@@kjay5056 The disdain was palpable & it certainly felt like political virtue-signaling.
Oscar should be McLarens #1 driver. I think he has earned it
@jerrygundrum1 - No doubt. Lando is a tier 2 driver.
@@chestermarcol3831 so how did the tier 2 driver beat the tier 1 driver at the Dutch GP by almost half a minute when they started next to each other on the grid?? In Baku Oscar started 13 places ahead of Lando and he only beat him by 36 seconds.
He'll earn it when he's scored more points.
@@lukew6725a season isn't just 6 or 7 races. Lando is still 32 points ahead of Oscar. One of those races Oscar out scored Lando were the Austrian GP where Lando DNF thanks too Max.
@@Jattie3434 guess you didn't watch on sunday
I like Piastri for World Champion
I always appreciate your chats with Mr. Windsor. One of the highlights of post-race conversations for me. The analysis and the respectful banter is always so great.
I hang on every word from Peter Windsor when it comes to F1. But he has the politics of a wealthy out of touch person, glad he cut that short and when back to F1 talk.
He felt it was not the discussion he wants to have on an F1 podcast.
Yep, agree. Love his historic knowledge in particular and stories from the past, but came across as a typical elite when it came to one, if not the most, incredible individuals alive today. God forbid you believe in free speech.
@@geomission 🤣 completely agree. I appreciate his content and F1 perspective so much and start to physically cringe anytime he drifts near politics, as it is always obvious that will be a disaster subject for him. 😂 “never meet your heroes”
Pete is Smart and of course He Might Seem a Bit Elitist , He’s Been a Part of the Most Glam Sport on the Planet for Decades..
He Always Gives the Tech Info that We Love and He Dodges a Political Question Brilliantly He’s Smart.. The Only Other Time We Could Get True Inside Information Re F1 was When He Worked for Speed with Hobbs and Matchett all Were on the F1 Inside..
Not like the Talent Show You Get from Sky..
He’s the Best…
He's smart enough to know not to piss half the audience.
Piastri proves he is an awesome number 1 driver and future World Champion. Lando proves he is an excellent number 2 and support driver. I.e Hamilton/Botha’s
Ah, my F1 weekend is now complete! It's not complete until I hear the PW race analysis and the Cameron/Peter chinwag 😅
I like Peter and I like your take Cameron, but you have got to stick up for yourself against Peter's points. You say something in your hot take videos then you back track when speaking to Peter....
You're so biased, how has he 'won' more races?. He was gifted his first win, if not for the safety car he would have been lucky to have even scored any points. Oscar has earned his 2 GP wins the hard way....AND...including a sprint race. To win a sprint race you still have to beat 19 other competitors.
Welcome to the Lando Norris Hour.
The bias is sickening
They spent the hour denigrating Lando Norris?
PW being way too soft on Lando. If Russell has enough wits about him to only come off the throttle just enough to demonstrate he obeyed yellow flags, Lando could have done the same. Lando was up 6 tenths from the cut off time to get into q2, he could have easily come off throttle enough to lose a couple of tenths and still make it through to q2. Thats putting aside the misake he made on the exit curb of T16.
Lando just too conservative in that instance and lacking the wit and ruthlessness that he has also lacked in many other circumstances. Such as the disasterous attempts to overtake on Max in Austria. If he had his wits about him, he wouldve let Max cover off the inside, make the corner tighter for him, got a better run on Max into turn 4 with DRS and make the move stick. Instead he tried multiple dumb moves into T3. That also was a 17 point swing in Max' favour in the championship. Norris shows he is not consistent enough, not calculating and ruthless in the same away Piastri showed with his precision move on Leclerc and placing the car exactly where it needed to be to keep him behind.
Bottom line, Lando COULD HAVE backed off AND still finished the lap to get into q2. All the stupid comments about a marshall breaking an ankle or a cat going across the track, seriously? That would be double waves yellows obviously or a red flag. Stupid analogy and so frustrating to hear these garbage excuses. Im glad you didnt let him get away with that rubbish and maintained your position that any logical f1 pundit should have.
So true, after listening to Oscars radio for the race McLaren are so much more clinical in their messages.
Oscar won and Lando went from 15 to 4... WTF does Peter want?
He wants him to back up the trash talk he was giving Hamilton about having the best car where he has it now n can't even get a podium with it. I've witnessed Hamilton do it plenty of times in a good car as good as the one land has now. So lando needs to prove his shit, but he bottles all the time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He went to p6 don’t forget two place gifted cause Checo.. also GR woulda been p5 but of course gets lucky again. Started p3 and would have ended up further than he started again
Lando should have been 3rd or 2nd or 1st, not 4th by accident. Lando only gained 3 points. Peter wants McLaren to stop being bush league. Bad q1 strategy, insulting instructions to Lando on tire management where Lando is best at it, failing to coach Lando to better corners, failing to coach Lando to better emotional space, 3 race too late dropping Papaya rules, and having two number 1 drivers.
@@rigsbyrigged1831 Lando should have finished ahead of GR
@@cmmnetwork256 so Lando apologizing publicly to lewis wasn't enough?
And the recent cool down room, even lewis doesn't care coz he was worse than Lando at this age. You must be a new fan but you haven't seen how bratty lewis was professionally and in his personal life with nicole and I'm a lewis fan myself. Some of you cult LH fans just destroy lewis's image by behaving so childishly.
So devastated that at Singapore he showed Oscar how it should be done
That had nothing to do with DRS, it was a game of chicken with Carlos far enough ahead that Checo could see what the score was. All Perez had to do was drift left to preserve his race.
Trump 24!!! Free speech!!!!
Ok. Lando has more experience. But more wins? 🤔
Again - great combination of you and Peter. You focus Peter on current issues and Peter has such technical/team management insights. I was blaming Lando for mistaking white flag for yellow in q1 - I forgot that McLaren got him in that box at 30s to go. And I was wondering why Max fell back to Perez - very slight wrong damping adjustment into Parc Ferme - that's why a good set up engineer with confidence is required to set up for Max. And I was also thinking good job Leclerc putting pressure on Piastry, when Leclerc should have backed off, cooled his tires and then waited to the last 5 laps. Great race because the cars are so close, and the track is not Monaco.
Lando will be annoyed about Baku because with his usual excellent qualifying, tyre management and race pace, that victory could so easily have been his.
But as an Oscar fan, I’m so glad Oscar had, and took, his chance to show us what he can do.
If you're going to critique someone with the achievements of Elon Musk, you'd best have some quality arguments! Or at least, have one
Knock yourself out:
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Cameron, I'm yet to watch your breakdown on Max underwhelming performance in the last 7 races. I hope you haven't caught the bias bug like Martin Brundle. Surely, you hold SLH feet to the fire when he underperforms regardless of the state of the car 😅
Peter didn’t like that 65 year old comment last pod cam 💀💀💀
For Peter to even ponder whether Danny Ric could’ve won yesterday is frankly blasphemous. For such an erudite scholar of the sport, I’m shockened by his very blatant and overt support of certain drivers. The only time I’ve seen Daniel show that level of race craft was back in 2018 Monaco but he was a well established driver by then, 8 years deep. To coin one of your beloved phrases ‘what have you done for me lately’? His last win was in Monza and we all know what happened there but I’ll remind those at the back… Lando had far superior race pace, but for the good of the team he defended and settled for a 1-2. This is a clear example of helping a teammate. Lando schooled Daniel in 2021 and easily could’ve won Monza. Any suggestion that Daniel could’ve won in equal machinery is utterly laughable. He’s neck and neck with Yuki for crying out loud.
This sycophancy of Daniel and Lando makes me wonder if Peter’s actually Horner in disguise. There’s only one no1 driver at McLaren and his name isn’t Lando.
Do better gentlemen!
Phoenix rises from the ashes not the flames
Im a mclaren guy - Im very happy to have Lando and Oscar. Peter has got the driver dynamics within the team so wrong imo.
Lando wasn't given a a lucrative extension to be the face of mclaren - he was given it because he is one of the fastest drivers on the grid.
I don't believe oscar or lando will dominate each other - they will continue to both win races if they have a competitive car. They are very different, they have very different strengths. This is ideal for Mclaren.
Peter says how upset Lando will be waking up after Baku - but I think he will be quite confident. Did you take a look at his pace? it was rediculous.
When it comes to drivers, Mclaren have always, always preferred having the two best drivers they can get in the car. This is actually the case for most of the teams on the grid right now.
PEople seem to think that the greatest priority to a race team is winning championships. It isn't. Winning races is what they want. It drives their competitive spirit, attracts the sponsors and the headlines, and is ultimately why people spend stupid hours trying to get the job done. The lifeblood of racers is winning races. Having oscar and Lando will give them more wins than having some lesser support driver.
Finally, they didn't dump Ricciardo at great expense just to get oscar in as a support driver - they wanted him as they saw in him what it seems the world is just waking up to now. What Mclaren have with their drivers now was their objective, not a problem.
Checko should have attempted the overtake on the inside of Charles at turn one, not the outside. He mucked it up. He's no Oscar.
Lol, sounds like s new catch cry !
Every botched pass from now on, "that's not an Oscar"
Wasn’t he blocked by Charles taking the inside run?
@@SaintKimbolet me Checko that 😅
@@RichardJohnson-nq9ys No, he's just no Oscar.
Peter's obsession over Lando is becoming outlandish. And on just what basis is he able to make so many and such dramatic about or on behalf of Lando? Lando is confused. Lando is devastated by Oscar's drive. Lando is feeling sick as a dog. Lando has the worst feeling in the world. He does not even state them as his opinions. He voices them as facts. Just where does he know it all from? Is he Lando's manager? Does Lando talk to him and reveal to him what is on his mind and how he is feeling? Why should we give any more credence to his claims as opposed to what Lando himself actually says?
Piastri seems to be step ahead Leclerc and Norris
Sad that's the last time I listen to Peter Windsor. A Elon hater is someone I can't respect. Shame.
I commend Oscars drive, but i wouldn't blow it out of proportion just yet. I will be convinced if he performs at this level consistently in the next races. Otherwise, he's indeed a force to reckon with in the immediate future.
We need to understand that McLaren could possibly have the best two drivers on the grid for years to come. They have the chance to develop both of these guys to be superstar. Let them race and gain experience so they can learn to race competitively.
Now we’re criticizing Lando for following safety procedures😬
There is a spectrum of acceptable outcomes associated to following safety procedures and Norris was far too conservative and lacks the ruthlessness.
Bottom line, Lando COULD HAVE backed off enough to follow safety procedures AND still finished the lap to get into q2. He was 6 tenths up from the cut off time for q2, he could have eased the throttle, lost a tenth or two and still finish the lap to get into q2. If Russell has enough wits about him to only come off the throttle just enough to demonstrate he obeyed yellow flags, Lando could have done the same.
Lando just too conservative in that instance and lacking the wit and ruthlessness that he has also lacked in many other circumstances. And this is where Peter Windsor is missing a trick, its entirely connected to his race craft and how he handles himself on track. For example, Norris' disasterous attempts to overtake on Max in Austria. If he had his wits about him, he wouldve let Max cover off the attempted overtake into T3 on the inside makeing the corner tighter for him, got a better run on Max out of T3 into turn 4 with DRS and make the move stick. Instead he tried multiple dumb moves into T3 that resulted in a DNF. That race alone was also was a 17 point swing in Max' favour in the championship. Norris shows he is not consistent enough, not calculating and ruthless in the same away Piastri showed with his precision move on Leclerc and placing the car exactly where it needed to be to keep him behind.
yes
It needs getting Fernando Alonso, now of Aston Martin, to answer the question, "How does it feel to have been Sir 'LionHeart' Lewis' so-called leading No1 driver and experienced his 'rookie' team mate at McLaren, totally outshine him?" (a then back-to-back, double F1 world champion) and all he could do in response was to block/hold him up in the pit lane and blackmail Ron Dennis boss of McLaren, with releasing incriminating e-mails (that culminated in a FiA imposed fine of USD $100Million), unless Hamilton's successful enthusiasm was curbed big time, allowing him, (Alonso), a clear path to win Grand Prix . . .
After 20 odd years on The Grid in racing and to show for it, he has only a rep for some great drives in truth and a couple of F1 GP WDC TITLES (2005 & 2006) won before Hamilton was even in Formula 1.
Whereas, the legendary 'Dark Knight', Sir 'LionHeart' Lewis, has so far:The sport's only claim to be a CENTURION
105×F1 GP VICTORIES
104×F1 GP POLE POSITIONS
201×F1 GP PODIUM FINISHES
USD $100MILLION p.a. salary and a multi-year contract
in 2025 & soon it'll be:
Ferrari red's th' colour,
F1 Grand Prix's th' name;
Then y'hear Sir 'LionHeart' holler,
"Y'know, winning is my game!"
🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
8×F1 GP WDC TITLES
***sung to Chelsea FC's mantra:
"Blue is th' colour,
Football is the game;
We're all here together,
And winning is our aim!"😊
Just Sir 'LionHeart' Lewis Hamilton signing to race for Scuderia Ferrari put USD $7BILLION on Ferrari share value.
Ferrari sell supercars internationally, at a USD $MILLION a pop or more, so the only head that needs to be troubled at present, is Toto 'penny-pinching' Wolff - part owner and team principal of Mercedes AMG. He lost the team its most orized asset.🎉
The Netherlander, Max Verstappen, is also finding out,
"Uneasy lies a head that wears a crown!"
The English Immortal Bard: William Shakespeare's play: 'King Henry IV, Part Two'; that conveys the difficulties of being a king or someone with great kingship responsibilities.
(The line appears in Act III, Scene I of that famous theatrical piece).
Hamilton also knows all about that syndrome . . .
Peter stick to racing
Speak for yourself! Some of us love his openness
@@simba5364 So smart guy, why the hate for Musk from Peter?
Tires weren't the issue for Gilles, he went out for a late qually run at Zolder because Pironi had pipped him for pole...and after Imola he HATED Pironi. Sadly his intense passion bit him hard.
Need more of these! 🙏
Amazing video, brother. Love it. Keep up the hard work!
This is why we want to hear from Peter Windsor: his nuanced take on that Q1 yellow flag incident schooled me!
Glad to see Windsor agree with me… lando’s problem was how late he was out in Q1…
The motivational words to Yuki are for NETFLIX, not for Yuki… they know drive to survive is listening.
Urgh drive to survive… 🤮
@@yassverthat corona virus got DTS the views because people didn't have nothing to watch and all of a sudden F1 has become one of the most popular sports and has a shitload more fans and of which most of them had probably never watched a F1 race in their lives but are now experts 😂👍
I don't know what McLaren changed in their cars but it seems almost "too good to be true" if you catch my drift.
Lando not having problems with wheel spin? Are you f*cking kidding me? LOL Have you WATCHED his starts? Piastri is the better driver. With the "CAR" they've given Lando, HE is the only thing holding it back.
I appreciate peters view on F1 but he can really keep his political views to himself. No body is here for that
Yup, but you know that is the new main stream media...tow the line for the left and woke crowd. It's pathetic and in full view!
I agree. The woke virus is insane
The civilised world loves Musk, the loons don’t, I wonder if Windsor has had his opinion created by headlines, or actual knowledge
Love mr windsor
But always going on and on about how you should only have one good racer in the team …
F1 would be quite boring if that was always the case. Glad it isn’t
He’s looking at it from a competitive standpoint though, and is quite right.
He was a former manager so it’s easy to see where he’s coming from.
PW would demote Oscar in a second, but would Lando be Peter's WDC?
@@bensynewsshoedown4999no he’s keeping Oscar all day he’s a short corner driver
Yeah, Windsor backed my opinion on the Q1 yellow when everybody else questioned Lando's reaction.
Peter Whinger is full of it ,anti Aussie and pro Brit, he is desperately eating humble pie here, if Charles backed off for 5 laps or so, Oscar would have been down the road in clean air..l struggle with this so called expert's salty comments , Lando is good ,though the Aussie is better.
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Piastri definitely has Senna serenity, I genuinely believe he's Senna reincarnated 😎
Interesting, they're both Aries too
@@DontuseGoogleorWiki and they were both with alpine - Tolman too, and they both left in similar circumstances. There's lot's of similarities
I love Peter Windsors commentary but he seems kinda smug doesn’t he
A nicer chap in the space, you will not meet. 🍻
@@Cameron-Cc He can tone down his unwanted political views!!
I find it interesting that very few F1 drivers seem to use a coach routinely. Other sports even individual ones such as tennis the coach is seen as integral but not F1.
Lando should just adopt Piastri's mindset: that this opportunity is only going to come once, so what can I do to win it?? Lando, start thinking.
“ I would’ve been up there with Perez taking him out” - Kmag
Funny stuff! Nice conversation gents.
Cameron, you may have addressed this already and I missed it but how did you and the great Peter Windsor meet? Love the content.
I don’t think there’s an issue with different compounds it’s more that in general they’re way too fragile and it’s now there’s way too much importance on tyre temps. If you sneeze on these tyres they overheat and everyone has to adopt the exact same driving style which some people are lucky to have that as their base and others aren’t