The Life and Crimes of Dahlia Hawthorne
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2023
- [MAJOR SPOILERS FOR ACE ATTORNEY: TRIALS & TRIBULATIONS]
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So after a long and tedious procedure of writing and making sprites, I finally finished this bloody video. In one long video instead of 2 parts, as the poll requested. I hope you like it xD
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Made in Objection.lol
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OST/BG Credits:
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1) Truth 2002 OST Remaster by JTPaper: • Ace Attorney: Justice ...
2) Shadow on Dusky Bridge OST Remaster by JTPaper: • Ace Attorney: Trials a...
3) Rainy Night Café GIF Background by Kirokaze Art
4) Hospital Background by Beskonechnoye Leto from the visual novel "The Everlasting Summer"
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Character Credits/Codes:
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1) Dahlia Hawthorne Full Body (by TheWinmega): XEHIQH
2) Iris Hawthorne (by TheWinmega): QJTPWN
3) Valerie Hawthorne (by me): Private CC
4) Morgan Fey (by RB): JYOKIS
5) Dahlia Hawthorne Kid (posted by Pearly, artist unknown): SYRUVX
6) Diego Armando Witness (by lorento): UKLLBY
7) Mia Fey:
- Defense (I don't know who ripped her): DMHJHO
- Artbook Redraw Witness (by me): Private CC
- Kid (unknown artist): just a pop-up
8) Phoenix Wright Young (by deleted user): UNJJVO
9) Terry Fawles (custom casual sprite by me): SHHRHD
10) Sebastian Debeste (by Idioticheskiy): XIQSIU
11) Herlock Sholmes Deduction 5 (by Sholmes): SOJYZD
12) Misty Fey (by me): UDDOJG
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I admit, after tons of research, I concluded that the canon Dahlia was too much of a cartoonish "evil for the sake of being evil" character, so I had to take some creative liberties when it comes to her thoughts in order to humanize her (which is why this video turned out to be more than 20mins, lmao). My video was bound to clash with the canon here and there, sorry in advance.
Also I wish I had more time to create extra sprites for Valerie, Mia and Terry xD
Black psyche-locks... on HER!?!?! ok no more words im done
@@godzillayazI mean given how she started and what her personality became in the end, I'd say she's one of the most eligible AA characters for black psyche locks (in her case, hiding from herself that deep down she wished she had lived with Mia and Maya and grown in a normal and functional family)
Or at least that's how I saw it, lol xD
@@debastiansebeste LOL too true sick work
The creative liberties honestly improve it tbh.
Nice vid!
Hm. As far as I can remember (though it has been awhile since I played the AA games ), I don't think your video clashes that much with the established canon.
I always consider Dahlia to be ace attorney’s most tragic character as she has no redeemable qualities; no talents, the closest person was her sister that she constantly belittles, she chooses to follow her inner demons and lacks any kind of control (the most she ever had was her hair)
It’s really enthralling, there is every reason to hate her but instead I just feel sympathy for her despite the clarity that she is a lost cause
This... this is the real Dahlia Hawthorne. A broken girl, abused and neglected by everyone around her, absorbing all the wrong lessons until she turned out to be just as cruel as the people that hurt her in the first place. Acting out of desperation and fear for her own freedom, she resorted to murder after murder to cover her tracks, until all she had left was revenge.
Dahlia may be a monster, but she's only what Kurain's and the Fey Clan's culture made her.
Brilliant work, Debastian!
Glad you enjoyed the vid πατριώτη 💪
That does not excuse her crimes
@@haydnscales9883 there's a very big difference between understanding and excusing. Especially for fictional characters. It's not wrong or immoral to engage with a story's villain on a deeper narrative level than just think of them as purely, unabashedly evil (something Ace Attorney is unfortunately notorious for not doing, with villains like Manfred Von Karma, Matt Engarde, Dahlia, Kristoph Gavin, Magnifi Gramarye, Queen Ga'ran and so on)
@@debastiansebeste The scariest thing about. Thee characters they are people who are like that
I always hated Dahlia, with a burning passion. After watching this video, I would still say I do. But it really made me reconsider her character, more then any .lol ever has. (of any character, for that matter) When we see her as a child, we get to see her in a more simple, innocent state, referring to Morgan and Mr. Hawthorne as 'mommy and daddy' which already works wonders given her burning vendetta against them later on. Her philosophy on men I never even thought of. She grew up sheltered, around only her sisters, mother, and most importantly her father, which she always hated. It didn't help that after that she met Terry, a man she could easily manipulate. She started to view men as... pawns or at least people she hated with a burning passion. I was also very glad to see her interactions with Iris, it really showed that she could have been a way better person, and very deep down, she still cared a slight bit for her sister. The black psyche lock moment was also fantastic, and I never really considered her having them. Anyways, I don't want to ramble for too long about the writing. The quality as usual was great, the Terry CC was fine, (still way better then I can do) but the Mia CC was honestly fantastic. The choice in backgrounds was great, and drew from some games I didn't expect to see. If there was anything I could nitpick, it would be the music at some points, but that's a very small nitpick. In the end, it was amazing, I was glued to my seat the entire time, which is rare for a .lol this long, and honestly might be one of the best things I've seen made on .lol. (this was way too long sorry)
I love reading long comments so don't worry about it mate
As for the music, yeah I admit I had big trouble choosing what to use at times because I'm not used to making videos that long (and it was either different unrelated osts or recycling the same 2 osts again and again :p)
Dahlia Hawthorne: One of the most memorable and despised villains of the franchise. A character who’s remembered for being a selfish, manipulative monster who only cared for herself and killed or attempted to kill everyone who stood in the way of her goals, whether it be money or freedom. She must’ve been a VERY difficult character to humanize considering the game only focused on her crimes and despicable nature. I find it so interesting that you interpret her motivation to be the one thing she never had: happiness. To be free from her horrible parents and live her life freely…even if people need to be used, stepped on, or both to do so, even if they are family. Great video.
Well, Dahlia did get valuable lessons on how to be a scum who steps on others for her own gain (just look at Morgan Fey always relying on her daughters to achieve her dream, and disposing on anyone she considered useless to her) 😂
@@debastiansebeste Facts. I'd argue the two are way more similar than either of them would want to admit. Both put on kind facades to either gain sympathy or control males around them, both have no qualms with taking advantage of people in order to achieve their goals, and they both even somehow lose their pupils when they glare at people.
@@darkkirb206precisely. Which is why in my older video "Dahlia confronts Maya" I have Dahlia going white eyed and screaming at Morgan, and Morgan shuts her down with her own white eyed glare (the og xD)
I always felt like Dahlia was more of a tragic villain than a pure evil one. This video reinforces my beliefs and I see this as semi-canon. And I like the attention to detail about Iris’s involvement in the plan. Personally, I would’ve thought her part in the plan was to make sure no one came near Dusky Bridge, but oh well, I guess Dahlia wanted to betray Valerie from the start. Also, twenty-one minute video? Wow, that’s dedication.
Yeah the game writers tried too hard to paint Dahlia as absolute evil, by having even Mia tell the players all the time about how Dahlia is a "demon" and that "whoever sympathizes with her is a total fool". It's like they were afraid of having a tragic villain back then, and completely made up for it with INVESTIGATIONS 2 SPOILERS
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Simon Keyes xD
@@debastiansebeste Not really, the game states she trusted her sister to take her necklace instead of just killing Naruhodo and how uncaring their parents were.
dahila there's a quote that goes "The saddest thing about betrayal is that it never comes from your enemies"
Wow. I love the depth you added to Dahlia.
Iris did say it herself.
Dahlia might not have turned out the way she did if she had at least one person at her side when she needed it the most.
Indeed. Hence her black locks. Because even though she has pushed it away, deep down she subconsciously still believes that she may have ended up happier and with a better life if she had stayed with Mia and Maya in Kurain (at least according to what I've written xD)
@@debastiansebesteOr with Bikini at Hazakura Temple.
**Slam desk** Sebastian Debeste, I accuse you of being an infiltrated member of CAPCOM!! Every time I watch your videos my mind tells me that it's another Pheonix Wright episode that never saw the light of day!
That's the intention, so I'm glad to hear you see them as such 😁😁😁
@@debastiansebeste *insert here psychelocks caused due to having to hide being a member of capcom*
Wild, man. Just f'ing wild. I love the inner monologue of Dahlia putting two and two together that Mia is her cousin, as well as all the other conversations being explored. Outstanding.
I saw nothing wrong with the liberties you took in that regard. In canon, we're only seeing a snippet of many characters' lives. It's not realistic or sustainable that the villains would constantly be in "mustache-twirling" mode 24/7 (except maybe Redd White). I thought you landed her everyday tone just right.
I had to do something similar when I wrote for Maggey. Her inner monologue can't realistically be a never-ending stream of hyper hopping sugar rush.
If I had one piece of constructive criticism, if it were me I would have left off the park scene with Dahlia and Iris. In her confession in 3-5, Iris only assumes that Dahlia figured out her true feelings for Phoenix, she never actually confessed them to her. ("I think... she must have noticed.) Like you said, something was bound to clash with canon sooner or later, and you more than landed the plane regardless.
Top quality as always.
Yeah the park scene is the one reason I wrote about the clashing of the canon. But I'll be honest, it wasn't because of a mistake - I knew that according to the game, Dahlia wanted to kill Phoenix secretly from Iris), but I wanted to show Iris expressing her full revolution towards her sister so we would be able to see Dahlia completely flabbergasted xD (for that I pledge guilty)
@@debastiansebesteI’m glad you kept that in, I’m a big Iris fan
And so now we finally see things from her perspective, and finally we see the full painted picture. For as long as she could remember, Dahlia suffered. Whether it was to be used as a tool to take over the Fey Clan, to having neglectful parents that never showered her with love and affection. Always struggling to free herself from the hell she was put under. Always trying to gain an ounce of control in her life, (hence why she dyed her hair red) for a change. Only for the rug to be pulled under her time after time again, by the people she decided to place her faith in, being betrayed over and over. In the end she was always on her own. And in an attempt to free herself she took a chance and rolled the dice.
She knew it was wrong, but what choice did she really have? Maybe if someone had shown her there was another way, maybe if someone was there to take her away from her suffering she wouldn't have to be this way. But no. After stealing from her abusive father, the dominoes came falling one after one. Try as she might to salvage what little control she had, but it only made things worse. In the end her misdeeds caught up to her and she was brought down by the one person that represents everything Dahlia despises: Mia Fey. A person who in Dahlia's eyes was given everything and yet rejected it to forge her own path and control her own destiny. And now in spite of all her efforts to gain that bit of control over her life, she dies alone, forever seen as a monster.
And so this was the tragedy of Dahlia Hawthorne.
Excellent job! This was masterfully done, and spectacular story telling. You managed to make someone as Dahlia into a sympathetic tragic villain. And in spite of her misdeeds, maybe now people will see Dahlia in a different light. Her actions were inexcusable, but maybe if things were different, perhaps she wouldn't have came out the way she did.
Well thank you for giving me the idea in the first place mate. It was a very tedious video, but I admit Dahlia was a fun character to explore, especially in her final interaction with Mia
There's one saying i made that i keep repeating myself about humans in that life and it gives me consciousness about what we truly are:
"You're not good because you're good nor are you bad because you're bad. You are yourself because you have a reason"
I don't like perfect evil and pure good, for me it's just a way to tell a story and to make whoever is watching/reading/hearing understand who's who. In real life i don't expect those kind of people but i do expect those actions.
So... Is that time again...
For me, one of the weak points in Trials & Tribulations is how they characterized Dahlia.
I know a lot of people like the "people can be evil just because" trope, but for me the trope only works if the character's past is never mentioned or it's just a "joke" character.
The problem with Dahlia is that she is not a "joke" character and the Fey family plot is the pilar of the entire trilogy.
Every time I replay T&Y, every time I think that Dahlia is a tragic character. For starters, she was included in the whole fiasco that is the Fey clan, she was the daughter of a relationship united by the search for power, not love.
Later, she suffered from the divorce between her parents. At one point in her life, her father decided that one of her twins would have to leave, and perhaps out of fear, she begged her father for Iris to be the one to abandon.
If all this were not enough for a girl who was at least 14 YEARS OLD, her father goes and hire a man with DISGUSTING tendencies to teach her in what is most likely PRIVATE lessons.
For me there are two options, Dahlia's plan was:
A) Create the stage for people to investigate her family situation and get her out of there, but the shot really scares her and it ended with her slipping to the side of the bridge.
Ora:
B) She taking the diamond and then jumping to end everything.
I think there are some possibilities for the second option, because there is no way in the world that a 14 year old girl saw the height of the bridge to the river (one known to be the last place for a lot of people) and said "Oh yeah! I'll jump to the river and keep the diamond for myself! I'm sure I'll survive it."
Even for Ace Attorney standards, that's not posible.
For me the most interesting thing is that for six years, Dahlia was just another normal teenager, she didn't commit any crime, she just enjoyed life... Until Valerie decided to tell the truth.
For six years, she didn't had to think about her father, her mother, or the sad life she was throw into, she was so determined not to return, that her only way out was to shed blood... And once a person tastes blood, there is no turning back.
What was once freedom, the feeling of a new stage in her life, became an eternal struggle escaping from mistakes, from the wave of blood, from pain and suffering, an attempt to hide the past, running towards the freedom that she longed for and had already tasted.
Only to end up on a path of death, hatred, revenge... and stinging roses.
Poetically well said
Honestly I appreciate this video not just as a great fanfic, but to help me keep track of the many cases she showed up in.
Yeah she probably has the record for the killer with the most appearances in different cases lol
Welp I'm man enough to admit I was wrong and I was definitely wrong on my prediction
This was FAR better and more entertaining a backstory than I was willing to give it credit for even with the artistic licenses you took which I think made it better
Very well done. The story may have already been told but these extra nuggets of information made the story MUCH more interesting than it was 🎉
You painted Iris and Dahlia's father as a "parsimonious penny-pincher". In that context, he's an accessory to every crime the latter of the two girls committed. No penny-pinching, no crimes. Especially considering the fake kidnapping plot was basically Dahlia's way of forcing her bastard father to give up some money since the item that was to be the ransom would've netted quite a bit of money for Dahlia to live off of.
This was very good! I especially loved Mia’s magatama having that power and the reveal of the black Psyche-Locks. I do wish that we got to see Dahlia’s reaction to Mia’s death, as well as Morgan being imprisoned.
If you wanna see Dahlia and Morgan interact in prison, there's this older video of mine. Feel free to check it out ;)
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A very nice and well detailed story of Dahlia and her crimes that make me feel like it's actually made by Capcom!
Those are some nice custom backgrounds that you used as well.
I wish I knew who the artists of those backgrounds are so I could credit them, I found them on Pinterest and no matter how much reverse image search I did I couldn't find a certain original source :(
@@debastiansebeste one of the sources is Бесконечное Лето - Beskonechnoye Leto - the Everlasting Summer - a Russian visual novel
@@privet20_commiereally? What's from there? One of the backgrounds? I'd appreciate the info so I can update the credits 🙏
@@debastiansebeste@darthsephiroth it's a medical post from 5:46-7:56
@@privet20_commie thank you for the info mate, it helped me update the credits :D
You are actually making the canon better. Astoundingly amazing. Thank you for continuing to breathe life to this incredible series. Full respect
i think you might be my new favourite ace attorney channel honestly. i came for the sebastian theme and stayed for the excellent writing…
i love when people really look at dahlia beyond the surface level, she’s one of my favourite ace attorney antagonists for just how tragic her story is. if she had someone like sister bikini or maya like iris and pearl had, or if she had been able to escape and live alone for the rest of her life, she might never have resorted to such drastic and desperate measures. i love your interpretation of valerie and dusky bridge too. same with dahlia recognising mia, i know it would have spoiled the twist but i’ve always wished either of them recognised each other since they must have at least met as children. i wonder if dahlia would have been so resentful of mia if morgan had been different. mia had everything morgan wanted from her daughters, and she gave it up to become a lawyer… a d that conversation between them in prison was masterfully written. and all of the extra interactions between iris and dahlia are so good as well… dahlia’s resentment for being abandoned, iris’s willingness to still try to understand her sister… you wrote them really well. i feel like iris too often gets overlooked but you really did her justice. i kind of went into this video with shaky expectations because i feel like most people despise dahlia, but this is one of the best readings of her character i’ve seen in awhile. GOD i love how you wrote her. and the custom sprites and backgrounds and voice clips too! wonderful.
I live for comments like this, I'm super glad to hear you enjoyed it 😁
The fanbase tends to follow the T&T recipe of seeing Dahlia as a one-dimensional villain (to my dismay, as she obviously had a lot of potential to be a tragic one)
Genuinely, one of the best videos I've seen on this entire platform. At least to me, personally. The entire story of Dahlia is one I relate to, very, very closely. A little too much for my own mental comfort, honestly. I really, genuinely appreciate you not taking sides as to whether or not she is bad. Yes, she did horrible things, but were they justified? Were they done for justice, in her eyes? So much about her is absolutely enigmatic, but I love that you captured her thought process perfectly in this.
Around the halfway point, my jaw dropped at the thoughts she had. Thoughts that I genuinely share with her. By the time I was at the confrontation between Dahlia and Mia, I had to take a break because of how many statements I agreed with Dahlia on. Genuinely, this is the best video I've watched on this platform. Thank you for creating this masterpiece, Debastian. I hope I didn't bore you with this long message, lmaooo. You are truly an inspiration to me, as a .lol creator.
Thank you, have a good day or night :)
Trust me, long comments like this never bore me and I live for reading them 😁
Glad to hear the vid resonated with you that much 🙏
There are a few things I'd quibble with here, but overall, you've done an excellent job overall. I think what too many people fail to realize about Dahlia, and what you've captured well, is that she's too trapped by her cynicism and fear of showing weakness to ever really be honest about her emotions, even to herself. And when she's doing a lot of her moustache twirling in canon, it's as much a front as her sugar-sweet facade. She's in front of two of the people she hates most in the world, desperately trying to prove that she's right, that her life meant something. Of course she's not going to reveal any softness or weakness or regret to Mia or Phoenix.
There is one bit that a lot of people get wrong imo. When Dahlia calls Iris a backstabber, Phoenix asks why whether it's because of the fake kidnapping, and she gives him the enigmatic "You just don't understand. You never will." It's natural to assume that it is about the kidnapping. But she already told him about that, as "Iris." There'd be no reason to play coy anymore. Therefore, the logical explanation is that the thing that she's actually angry at Iris for is for falling in love with Phoenix, betraying her by choosing him over her. She won't tell him, because that would a) implicate Iris in her crimes and b) reveal to phoenix the fact that Iris loved him. And he'll never understand, because she doesn't think iris will tell him. Dahlia definitely does care about Iris, as much as she wants to hide it (or else why, after all those unforgivable betrayals, when she had both the motive and opportunity in the sacred cavern, did Dahlia not end Iris's life?) For additional evidence, consider Dahlia's line when she reveals her cruel face in 3-1. "Feenie, what a joke you are [...] How can any woman rely on you for anything?" Knowing what we know after 3-5, this sounds a lot like her saying to him "my sister is a fool to believe in you. Else, the choice of the words "any woman" is strange, because Dahlia is usually very nnarrowly focused jiust on herself."
Anyway sorry for the ransom rant, thank you for showing the truth of my favorite character. (I always sort of hope that somehow, even if she's not able to escape being Dahlia Hawthorne, Dahlia's spirit might be able to eventually suffer less, even if that's only when she gets reunited with Iris, who clearly also still loves her, even if she does so less blindly than she might have done as a child. Surely, if the ego lives on orever, it might be able to change.
I didn't think much about Iris' betrayal tbh, because I was certain that Dahlia simply wanted Iris to run with her and she didn't because she was afraid of committing a crime. But your theory seems pretty sound ngl
I just finished T&T and this really had me wish we got a closer look at how Iris felt those years after Dahlia's execution, her interactions with Godot and Misty as well as her meeting with her sister again 5 years later while trying to rescue Maya from from the cavern. Maybe a future video idea for you, I dunno...
Anyways, love the effort and hard you put into this. It really adds a lot more depth to her character on top of what we got to see in the game, really made her motive seem more human. Great work, really
Really great video. You put so much effort into them. It's always worth the waiting.
A work of art, dear prosecutor. Loving every second.
Woooo another banger video! This is probably one of my favorites. Everything felt so coherent and the characters were very accurate to their canon versions. I wish the game had explored Dahlia even more and im happy to see you do her justice. Fantastic job my dear fellow!
This is probably one of your best videos, you recreated so well Dahlia's history
I loved the effort you put in this video
SORRY FOR MY PREVIOUS COMMENT! I accidentally hit enter when I didn't finish it. WOOO a long video! I'll probably be commenting as I'm watching. Loved Dahlia's... "appearance" in the intro, lol.
I love the concept of her having a rocky relationship with basically everyone in her life. Her mother and father getting divorced was probably not something she could easily understand at the time. From this, she might have thought love was a weakness and you were bound to be hurt by it. So when Iris refused to cooperate with stealing the diamond, she immediately assumed it was because Iris did not care for her anymore. That may have been Dahlia's tipping point - being "betrayed" by your own twin sister. Also with Valerie; her personality is never truly delved into (she sort of just died in Ace Attorney ☠), and I think with her not being the ideal older sister makes a lot of sense.
OKAY WOW, that was a fast change of scene. It seems her way of thinking has changed - immediately picking up a knife after her identity is threatened. It makes sense, but the fact that she does not even try to negotiate and it is clearly a "do this or you'll die" situation implies that she has had experience when negotiation didn't work/when she only offered one choice or the other, and it worked 95% of the time-ish. Also, the lack of hesitation when she stabbed Valerie shows her emotional disconnection to death in itself (although this could just be because she knows about spirit mediums).
I'm curious how after the events of the first Dusky Bridge incident (the diamond one), Iris and Dahlia made up about it. Plus - Iris accepting the fact that Dahlia, more or less, was responsible for the death of 3 people? (Godot/Diego was not looking any better at the time, so it could be argued she quite literally put him to sleep for a while, making him useless - or "as good as dead")
"After all, there's one person I love more than anything in this world. And that's myself." Lmao, laughed at that, good one Dahlia!
Ooh, Iris threatening Dahlia if she ever hurt Phoenix. That's something interesting to think about - I feel like she would never have even suggested this if her sister's "bad influence" had not rubbed off on her.
BLACK PSYCHE LOCKS!! How come I never considered this possibility before? Absolutely genius - of COURSE Dahlia would have secrets to hide. And her regrets of not being able to grow up with Mia & Maya make a lot of sense. She's thought about changing herself to be a better person with the help of Iris. Amazing end to the video!! 11/10
"Like, how did you manage to have a tragic backstory and still make everybody hate you?" PORTSMAN SUMMED IT UP RIGHT THERE 😭. I think my actual answer to this is because (yes, this is cliché) she never learned to trust in both herself and others. And because of that, she decided become a serial killer was the perfect career option - bonus points for ruining basically everyone's life in the process! :)
The Mia Fey sprites looked so well done! I really love how you motivated yourself to do this whole video, and I felt really happy to see the mention of Diego’s poisoning. Well done, debastian.
Wow, the quality of your videos just keeps improving. The sprites and everything makes it almost seem like a real game. And I think your execution was fantastic. Sure, perhaps canon painted here as a plain person who just likes to hurt people, but I reckon you gave her character a necessary new dimension. "Evil is not born, it is taught", you just portrayed that perfectly. To finish off, I LOVED the idea of Mia's magatama running out of energy just for revealing Dahlia's locks. Keep it up.
This was an incredible video! I've been an Ace Attorney fan for many, many years and your channel is easily my favorite piece of fan content I have ever seen. Dahlia is one of my favorite AA characters and the creative liberties you took with her character were so well-executed.
This video is truly a gift! I can't wait to see what else you create! 😊
Super glad to hear it 😁
It's refreshing to see things from Dahlia's perspective. Really shows how the world twisted her into what she is now.
I liked how you let Mia assume that Dahlia would have been happier and more self-fulfilled growing up a Fey because even she at the time did not know the depths of her aunt's bitterness towards that side of the family. Mia herself was blinded to the division and ugliness that lived under the surface because by the time it had truly come out she had already died.
Haven't played the games, I learned a lot about her character, her motives and philosophy are completely reasonable. And I have no regrets spoiling the whole story for me, because the plot and backgrounds here were spectacular.
The vid is awesome, also I love them lengthy. And *you* are awesome.❤
Thank you, glad you enjoyed 🙏
(Still I suggest you play it, Trials and Tribulations was phenomenal imho 💪)
Indeed a really good in depth video of Dahlia however I am still unsure how Terry became her tutor because of how easily manipulated he was by Dahlia. I think he most likely taught Dahlia English or as the vid suggests he was hired very cheaply and could be a Low paying staff in Mr Hawthorne company who was given the chance to tutor his daughter and have some extra earnings
Another sad scenario is that Mr Hawthorne did not value Dahlia and wanted Terry, who is intellectually challenged, affect Dahlia school grades so he has a reason to send the remaining twin away
Couldn't Mr. Hawthorne just send her away? Why did he need a reason?
And Dahlia's stepmother wouldn't have cared.
Wow, this is really good. Great video.
I love how you make hypothetical scenarios that fans wanted to see.
honestly this is such a good representation of dahlia hawthorne and her life and thoughts along the way!!
it shows why she did what she did and the things she went through for this to happen, which is something capcom completely neglected to do.
god this video is so good. thank you for creating this!! would love to see something of the sort with simon keyes or a character like him. have a great day!!
Well, for Simon the only content I currently have is my video "Simon Keyes meets Dane Gustavia", which also delves a bit into Simon's tragic backstory, if you're interested ;)
Great job! I can tell why it took so long to make, you had to make most stuff from scratch, and I was worth it!
i can't believe it. you managed to give Dahlia depth
Phew, this gave me chills. This is canon now.
Excellent work!
Wow. You keep going beyond the limit. I’m totally impressed.
And you decided to put all in one. I’m astonished.
Hope your mental health is still stable.
It trembled a bit during the creation of sprites combined with the army stuff, but now I'm back to 100% ngl 💪
@@debastiansebeste I’m glad you’re still okay.
Just 3 and a half months left. You can do it.
This...This was AMAZING! ❤❤❤
THIS BACKSTORY IS ABSOLUTELY HOW I IMAGINE HOW SHE GREW UP TO BE A HEARTLESS MONSTER!
Well, it's pretty much her canon backstory, with a touch of more visible humanized drama for the audience to resonate with Dahlia more. Glad you like it :D
This is a masterpiece. Thank you for making this. The scene between Dahlia and Iris, although not exactly canon, was amazing.
Glad you enjoyed it 😁
Estás haciendo super historias,me inspiras mucho para hacer mis fanfics escritos muchas gracias 😊
I definitely see some similarities between our videos on the subject, which is cool. This was incredibly high quality as always, great work.
Your Fanon vs Canon Iris definitely helped me get inspired for my "Iris stands up to Dahlia" scene of this video 🤜🤛
@@debastiansebeste I'd forgotten about that one, lol, I was referencing "What Once Was", especially with the Psyche Locks scene. Happy to inspire regardless though.
Speaking of inspiration... this may have inspired me to do something.
This is an amazing take on Dahlia’s backstory. I admit I never saw her as a sympathetic villain, but this story does make complete sense. On a side note, it seemed a bit weird that Iris was just written off, considering that she played a huge role in Phoenix’s life, so what if there was like a small video of Phoenix finally visiting Iris, or even if Iris gets paroled.
Yeah I'll probably do that too eventually
I'm liking this video for that pun alone. The title is gold.
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Well, looks like I've explored this one as thoroughly as I can.
One day, be it in a fanfic, e-book, play, visual novel, adventure game or some other secret sixth thing, I'mma write me a Hawthorne.
And this here redhead? She's comin' with me like a Poor Man's Poison.
19:58 "That day, if our positions were switched...would our fates be different? Would I have your life, and you mine?"
This vid was amazing I could feel the effort that was put into this, idk how you only have 3k subs lol.
Well, 8 months ago I had 8 subs, so I admit I'm not at all complaining about having almost 3k now xD
This whole video certainly helped me see Dalia in a way I've never looked at her before. Gotta say, humanizing one of the most evil written characters is a difficult thing to do, but as usual, your writing for this made this feel very natural. I wasn't expecting the black psy locks but they make so much sense.
I can totally see why you felt that the creative liberties may have been a bit more than what you would have preferred, but to me, you did here what you've always been good at doing. You shined a new perspective on an otherwise interpretive backstory within trials ans tribulations. The reason it felt natural and humanlike is because you wrote the steps of her becoming evil gradually. And it comes off realistic because evil isn't born overnight. I'd like to think that even the team at Capcom were having this idea in mind since her first crime wasn't murder, but was a fake kidnapping.
I think watching this really shows just how much her character was purposely crafted to tie in with everyone else in the main cast, and with that in mind, I find it interesting seeing the effect her actions had on the people. It's one thing when you know it, but it's another thing seeing it unfold. That's why I enjoy seeing your vids.
Also, random side question, but what program do you use to edit your videos? I use Sony Vegas.
Glad you enjoyed, mate
About your question, for almost all of my vids I don't use an editor. I just record them in the Objection Lol Recorder and upload them as they are. But when I need to add some ost externally (or for Sholmes' Dance of Deduction), I use Shotcut
Can we appreciate the pun in the title? Anyway, loved this objection a lot!
I literally thought of this title based on "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" lol
Then I searched "life and crimes" and I was disappointed to see that I'm like the gazillionth who came up with this title xD
I hope that Iris come out of the prison, so that Trucy maybe will have a new mother. 😅
my god i love dahlia hawthornes character. i feel bad for her but she was still rly rly evil, i just wish things wouldve been different for her
I discovered your channel a few days ago and watched litterally every video. You improved a lot in the past few months, and this last one is particularly well written and animated, your best work so far I would say. Have you ever written Ace Attorneys Fanfics before ? 😮
Nope, I never have. But these videos are fanfictions imo :p
Wow. Yeah, this backstory definitely adds more depth to Dahlia, while still not making her any less evil. She had many chances to turn around, but never took them, so she ended up dooming herself. All because she could never bring herself to care for others.
Morgan must've failed really early on at instilling any sort of nurturing aspect, I guess. And then either/any of the Hawthornes dropped the ball by putting up for a tutor of _his_ caliber... Valerie was basically the cleanest chance she had, short of successfully creating that new life for herself as 'Melissa'.
Ooh man, I'm getting some great ideas for 'fix fics' here.
Can't thank you guys enough.
Slight AAI2 investigations near the end
You know even after playing AA3 three times i haven't thought about Dahlia must as i have thought about her now seeing how a bad childhood could affect what someone will become, it's an interesting idea. Perhaps Dahila is the best written villian from all the other villians (or in competition with simon keyes at least).
great job in making dahlia seem justified, kinda, and also, i wonder if phoenix ever visited dahlia in prision, maybe just to make sure that she really was who mia claimed her to be during the trial, especially considering how he reacted during the trial, point being, i wonder if he visited her to get closure on this point
That's not a bad question ngl, Phoenix never confirmed Iris' existence until T&T so he has to be curious, you're right
(There's one thing I feel that could flip the timeline (and Bridge to the Turnabout).... If Hawthorne was angered by Dahlia's remark and sent HER to the temple)
(Another possibility that would have turned the ENTIRE game upside down is the question the Mia had pondered about.... If Dahlia had spiritual powers)
Could make a video about these possibilities?
Debastien, are you being held hostage by Dahlia?
Also wonderful video btw 10/10.
Haha of course not it's just an act 😋
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@@debastiansebeste(help is on the way. I don't know or care HOW long it takes me; she's at the top of me "swear on me mum, I can fix her" list.)
making the mother of omelettes here, Jack. Can’t fret over every egg!
i do wonder, there's a 6 year gap between when dahlia became melissa foster and when turnabout beginnings happened, so i wonder, where did dahlia live between that time? what was she doing between ages 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19? because she wasnt living with her dad and stepmom, but she couldn'tve been living alone due to being, yknow, an underage teenager, so i wonder where she was living as 'melissa foster'...
I guess it must have been Valerie who helped her get a place to live and probably some part time job (and maybe she even helped her a bit financially).
But yeah I imagine that must have been all Valerie
Gotta love Iris, she’s the definition of “ride or die”
I guess you could say she has a lot of faith. Must have learned of that with Sister Bikini.
Dahlia's hateful glaring sprite in your intro looks incredibly epic.
That makes me wonder, did she inherit those piercing white eyes from her mother? Morgan can also stare at you with those same white eyes.
Yes. The 'curse of the branch family,' it would seem.
#glowerpower
I wonder how Dahlia may have been written nowadays? I disagree with choices to often make villains more woobieish or 'leather-pantsed' in adapted media (Magnificent, Wicked, all those), but that's often in regards to justifying their actions, and also fandom liking to make them all soft and 'did nothing wrong.' (*Cough* Edgeworth *Cough*)
However, you pull it off perfectly with Dahlia. I'm not sure how making someone who has had a sad childhood as she, and was in a relationship with an adult at a young age would really be portrayed as irredeemably evil today. There's SO much one can play with that, and the game just make her as simply evil as a disney villain which I'm glad you alleviated a bit. (Hell, pretty sure even disney villains are ever more humanised and complex, just take a look at Judge Frollo XD)
Love your videos dude, always been a fan of these type of fanfic expansions!
The main aim of the vid was to do what many Dahlia fans want: understand her without justifying her. And that doesn't work if she's just a "muahaha murders go brrr" type of villain, so it had to be sorted out xD
Glad you liked the vid mate 💪
Only 2 more moths until December! Wooooooo!
Damn the black psyche locks! I knew something was off about her past.
I mean, how did she end up like this, the fact that she was a serial killer, not only that but even her twisted face during trials, she was way too shady during the game. You know the facade is hiding the monster beneath the mask. Yet, there wasn't any black psyche-locks until Kristoph Gavin.
I can't shake the idea that Phoenix, in the attempt to bury for good his memories with Dahlia, would ask Maya to channel Mia, and ask her once for all what does she know about her. Still, breaking these ones would be a miracle as we would need hard evidence about her past...
Update: I've rewatched the video, and it seems Mia is aware about the fact black psyche locks exists. Indeed, it's the first time she sees these locks, but it would mean that she knows the meaning behind them.
Well, the fact that the locks appeared when Dahlia said "I'm glad I didn't grow up with you lot" says everything imo. Deep down, on a level she'd never admit to herself, Dahlia wished she'd stayed in Kurain and lived a normal and happy life in a normal family like Mia and Maya did.
0:02 Debastian seems like he’s on gunpoint by Dahlia lmao
Another great video
Everything was good
Characters,writing
The only thing I think was off(just a tiny bit) is Iris confessing to dahlia about phoenix
I think iris said that she figured it out by herself
I dont remember, maybe im wrong
But that is it
Dahlia is such a great villain
2nd my fav
Cant wait for next vid
Yeah Dahlia never told Iris she would kill Phoenix. That change was on purpose on my part because I wanted to give Iris a badass scene (don't forget she told Phoenix she was willing to kill Dahlia if she knew Dahlia would try to kill Phoenix)
And I enjoyed having her shock Dahlia with her sudden revolution 😂
6:44 ah, DGS soundtrack in the mainline series, feels weird but not in a bad way
Absolutely love how she says the most rudest brutal things like 😍🥰🤭
I wonder if we'll have an adult Iris as Trucy's second mommy.
Waaaait ! It can't end like this ! Can we please have that scene against except Mia thought of bringing Maya and Pearl along and the power of their three combined Magatamas is enough to break those five psyche-locks ???
It doesn't take power from the magatama to break her locks, just like with Athena, all Dahlia needs is someone to convince her about the truth that she subconsciously knows and they'd break :p (though they're too deep buried, who knows 😢)
@@debastiansebeste maybe. But what if it's not Maya and Pearl's magatamas' but their presence that'd change her mind ? That plus knowing she is close to her death sentence could change things
My mom keeps a rose garden She was known for her red and white ones she told me even the loveliest rose can hide its cruelest thorn her last words of wisdom to me two weeks after she died the roses died as if they were following her
10/10 god dam
Dahlia really stands for a demon.
Still the whole point of the video was to show that Dahlia was a product of the environment she grew up in and the circumstances she faces in her life
@@debastiansebesteit's the 'nature vs nurture' debate since they're identical twins with the separation, messaging, and parenting styles being what drove them to such a drastic divergence.
Anything Dahlia did, Iris could've done, if the other had worn her shoes. And vice versa.
Ultimately, it's names, circumstances, and choices made. They _both_ deserve our consideration and even potential condolences, even with how truly toxic one of them became...
The Wright man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world...
Damn, what a impresive video! I love a backstory you gave her, it really fells like serial killer type "backstory". But it gave me a question: Is Dahlia really a psychopat, or broken individual? Does she cares about her sister, or only about herself? If she only uses Iris, why would she allow Iris impersonating her to get her that necklace?
I think I answered these questions for myself. She grew up in a household with abusive father, her mother rejected her and her stepmother and stepsister didn't cared for her that much because she was "different". So she a coping mechanism that she's never going to show her real feelings and became emotionally cold, eventualy starting to hate everyone. Her sister Iris was the only person she tolerated and even though se probably hated her as well due to being jealous that she has way better family and is overall nicer person than her, deap in her hearth (black psyche lock), I think she cares about her somewhat. After all, you can't be 100% evil or good.
Damn, it's kinda difficult to express this through writing, especially because my opinion can change somewhat. I still love pure evil Dahlia, but it's really intresting to think about why she behaves this way. Anyway, what are your thoughts, if you gonna reply to this comment?
Spoiler alert for my vid:
Her black psyche locks are actually because deep down she wished she and Iris had stayed with Mia and Maya in Kurain and grew up as family. Hence why her locks appeared when she said "I'm actually thankful I didn't grow up with you boring lot"
@@debastiansebeste I saw What Once Was by Nickolas' Objection lol Stuff and I was curious: Were the black psyche locks in your video inspired by this video?
Dahlia secretly hoping she could grew up with other Feys and her caring somewhat about her sister makes her much better character! Like she's not completely gone, there is still a little good left in her that she hides, but she still chose her path of destruction. Instead of being pure evil, she's more of serial killer type of character in this interpretation - you just left to wonder what went wrong with her to shape her like this? Thank you both for making this interpretation, I already loved her but with added depth (although kinda, kinda headcannony) I love her as a villian even more! So thanks again!
@@debastiansebeste On side note, I think a What If video: "What If Dahlia and Iris switched places" would be really cool. But you've made a lot of Dahlia content already, just a cool I wanted to share
I still remember playing the final case of Trials and Tribulations on Steam
(I bought the PW:AA Trilogy to play)
I always saved the game right before Phoenix and Mia lay the final smackdown on Dahlia
Honestly, she had it coming a long time ago for all the evil things she did
I think it would have been more interesting if Tres Bien was the restaurant Diego met Dahlia at instead of the courthouse.
"Mr. Armstrong, this is by far the worst cup of coffee I've ever had"
*Passes out into a coma*
Well yes, but it would have required me to edit it so I'd erase all the police tape from the background. And I didn't want to do that xD
Dang, none of us knew Dahlia had black psyche locks
13:57
I laughed my ass so hard at this
It’s cool, even tough, as I said, a small part of my heart hoped Dahlia’s father to be actually Gant.
That sounds impossible though, we know that her father's name is canonically Hawthorne 🤔
Not to mention that having a serial killer for a daughter wouldn't exactly help him become Chief of Police. XDDD
@@debastiansebeste Let’s not discuss it, I had all a “Beautiful”-like plot in my head of why he would be her father and if mental hospitals still existed I could have been there with this idea I guess, that says much! 😂 People I know always tell me I’m a very smart guy, but they don’t know the extremely silly ideas I come with sometimes!
Now the video made me curious if Phoenix's "Indefinite Loan" Magatama used to belong to Mia. After all, Maya was completely unaware about the Psyche Locks. The Magatama was a family heirloom so it makes sense that when Misty disappeared Mia inherited it and when Mia died Maya inherited it, who then "Loaned" it to Phoenix.
We know the Magatama's power lasts about a decade so to add headcanon on top of headcanon. So did Misty charge the Magatama before disappearing in 2002 and gave it to Mia, then in 2014 it ran out of juice, passed from Mia to Maya to Phoenix and in 2017 recharged again by Pearl. Do only Pearl and Misty have the power to charge Magatama? Something to explore in another video.
In my headcanon Mia was also able to charge the magatama (hence why in the trial earlier it was uncharged but when she visited Dahlia she had charged it and it was glowing green)
@@debastiansebeste Then why when Mia does it it's single use?
@@mrmimeisfunny Mia literally explains it for the viewers :p
Dahlia's locks consumed way too much power to reveal because she had buried those dark thoughts way too deep in her soul
....I want this to come full circle.
Modern SoJ Phoenix Wright should break her locks several years later.
Realistically after dealing with her in Bridge to a Turnabout, He'd probably NEVER would want to even hear her name again but....man now that you've introduced her having Black Psyche locks and knowing how those affect the mental state of the person that has them if not properly handled, I really want to see someone break them.
So we can see Dahlia's true breakdown and to see that someone is truly able to understand her no matter how hard she wants to refuse it.
The way i see it hypothetically, her spirit will never truly fade until those locks are shattered.
Well, tbh I don't know how Phoenix would be able to break those psyche locks. After all (according to the lore I wrote for this vid), she got them because she refuses to accept that deep down she wished she had stayed in Kurain and grew up with Mia and Maya in a normal family.
In pretty much, Phoenix is sort of unrelated to this issue, so I believe only Mia would be able to break those locks. And instead, she decided to roast her to death in the end xD
@@debastiansebeste I think that the two should talk one day in the afterlife. Mia is the only one that can help free her. Hopefully Mia will have matured to try and actually help her cousin rather than condemn her.
I like this idea a lot too. Though I think one could argue that the brutal tear down Mia gave Dahlia is essential to her ever changing.
Dahlia avoids regret, sadness, and pain by doubling down on the idea that rejecting those things makes her strong, let’s her survive, lets her win when other people crumble, falter, and fail.
But what Mia and Phoenix do in that last segment, is show her that rejecting others and trying to live only for herself hasn’t made her strong at all. Instead of achieving the peace and freedom together with Iris she wanted at the start, all she got was constant deluge of fear of discovery, loneliness, and, ultimately, instead of escaping her father’s cruelty, she just ended up used and wasted as a tool for her mother’s cruelty instead.
They’re right that she can never be anything other than Dahlia Hawthorne, who can never win at anything. But then, what if she turned away from trying to win, and tried to find herself some peace instead?
I actually think Maya would be a good person to help with this. In your previous video, Maya pitied Dahlia, even while her cousin threatened her life, and hoped that she could be more than what Morgan had made her. Even in canon, Maya desires to, as Master, bury the old animosity between main and branch families. Dahlia is that animosity and it’s consequences personified. Wouldn’t it be a wonderful thing to do, to use her powers to give her cousin a chance to reconcile and heal that life denied them?
"Who Dares Win" -SAS motto that you mia fey
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Ruh roh headcanons incoming
10:29. Ah! Little Mia is so cute!
I like how in the intro you are forced by Dahlia herself
Haha yeah, but it's all in a friendly light xD
(She's still here, send help 😥)
Well, I can't say I liked Dahlia as a villain, she was just too selfish.
Kristoph Gavin on the other hand, was crazy and selfish too, but he was a real Mastermind. Dahlia had to be a pawn for Morgan, so... that Mastermind thing only worked for Kristoph. 😊 And of course, for Souta Sarushiro, the best Evil Mastermind of all Ace Attorney Characters, but that Ranking is in another comment. 😊
If you know a bit of German, or use a translator, I'd like you to comment on my videos, the first one (out of 3 until now) even is in English. 😊
Nah, Kristoph was far pettier and luckier than Dahlia. Even though I like his character, the only reason he got away with his crimes longer than Dahlia did, was because of his unbelievable plot armor
Hmm...If there's a follow up to this, I'm curious of what you're gonna do with the black Psyche Locks. Even more so, at the fact it's Mia Fey taking these reigns. Also the first black locks were of Kristoph but those were broken rather forcefully(I think), Athena had black locks but they broke the normal way. So I'm curious of what this will go for.
Well, I didn't have many plans for those locks. After all, they appeared because Dahlia didn't want to admit to herself that deep down she wished she had stayed in Kurain and lived with Mia and Maya in a more functional family than her father. And since she died, there's not much point anymore in breaking those locks I believe
Though nothing is set in stone, we'll see :p
@@debastiansebeste At least we know the secret. Can't wait to see what your new works will be Debastian!
Great video ! It reminded me of one thing though, I never really understood the fact that Dahlia was dating Doug Swallow before Wright. Was it herself ? Did she used the poison on Fawles ? Then, how long did she date him, etc, etc... I wish you would make a video for this, it feels so canon aha
Dahlia was 14 when she acquired the poison that she gave Fawles. He just drank it 6 years later. As for Swallow, she dated him so she could get her hands on new poison to kill Armando.
As for how long she dated Swallow, I guess I'd do it if Doug had sprites (but there aren't and I can't bring myself to make even more sprites any time soon 😅)
^What he said. Doug was in the University's Toxicology department. In investigating, he came to a 'shocking' realization...
I admit, I don't like Dahlia.
However, seeing this, it does change a lot of things and I do wish they explored Dahlia more at the end also, like how they tend to with a lot of the main culprits/villains.
This would've been an actual cool edition in the real game.
Edit: However, one flaw I have with this logic: It was Dahlia who convinced her father to leave Iris at the temple in the first place (I feel it was the only good/good choice Dahlia ever did in her life, without realising it).
And tbh, it shows Dahlia was a manipulator from the beginning as she said from when she was born and only cared for herself, so Iris being swapped with Dahlia wouldn't have made them switch roles.
I'd imagine Dahlia turning against and manipulating Bikini and Iris would be upset emotionally from her father (in other words, a much more worse scenario for Iris and maybe making her consider to follow in Dahlia's footsteps and/or even go to her and they start working together with no weak bonds.
On a side-note: Iris is still the most satisfying ending of the trilogy and it's such a shame a lot of that ending got completely forgotten, due to the Apollo Justice game (I feel was the downfall of the story sadly, bringing Phoenix back, when Shu Takumi didn't want to, but Capcom wanted to).
Still love the games, especially the Miles Investigation games (hope they get added to the Switch). :)
See, that's the thing about Dahlia's choice. 1) she was less than 10 years old, you can't really tell that a 10 year old can manipulate and convince someone like Mr. Hawthorne so easily. Perhaps he wanted to send Iris away anyway.
But 2) in my headcanon (which could easily be canon if Takumi wasn't afraid to show Dahlia in a more sympathetic light), Dahlia initially sent Iris away to protect her, in a "stay there and I'll be the one to endure our father's bullshit until both of us can run away with his money" manner. So in my headcanon Dahlia knew what she was doing and was doing it just to protect Iris, but when the latter betrayed her on the Dusky Bridge incident, Dahlia got pissed and thought that even Iris had turned her back on her.
@@debastiansebeste Yeah, considering what she was like in the story and what she said about her leaving her sister there and saying "Less children, more money to go around." She's not shown in a good light.
Still though, I can respect your perspective and I agree that it would've been more interesting to humanise her.
I mean, I did feel bad for Terry Fawkes being killed, since he came off as someone who wasn't mentally smart, but being a tutor and in love with a 14 year old?
Yeah, I can understand that perspective, since it's weird they just gloss over that, but it seems he had the mental state of a child and he didn't know any better (how he got the job being in that mental state on top makes zero sense lol).
Still, love the video.
Really well done! :)
Φίλε το πήγες παραπέρα. Η μία αριστουργηματική στιγμή πίσω από την άλλη. Η καλύτερή μου είναι οι συζητήσεις με την Iris. Να σαι καλά!
Χαίρομαι που το ακούω αυτό αγορίνα 🤜🤛
Not even 4 minutes into the video and already I have to say if Dahlia was allowed to go with Iris to Hazakura Temple and raised by Sister Bikini, quite a lot of tragedy would have been averted
True. Perhaps she would have avoided a lot of drama imbued in her personality that way
This is my first comment on your channel, so why not.
0:03 - Don't worry, I've already finished it. Long time ago.
0:16 - Once again Mia loves to gloat over losers.
0:35 - Because you was written as a stupid and cartoonish villain.
1:20 - Typical behaviour of parent who couldn't win.
2:23 - Because he is asshole, you don't need to wonder. Your place is in better hands.
2:36 - Ohhhh, Dahlia is a rebel.
2:44 - Like you look better.
3:00 - You're 20 and you fell in love with a teen *facepalm* If I would remake 3-4 then I would decrease his age to 16-17.
3:07 - Agreed, Dahlia...
3:16 - Who gave to such a person such a job?
3:22 - Dahlia, I can understand you but not to justify you.
3:29 - You're not better.
4:21 - Dahlia had a better potential, but at the end she turned out to be a loser. One of reasons why I dislike T&T.
5:22 - And you're still trying to get taken care of? You didn't even try to take care of others.
5:29 - Sadly, a game doesn't say why Dahlia needs that diamond. There can be many reasons... I guess.
5:43 - Look at yourself!
6:31 - Again, In T&T that was said a diamond is still missing... but the game doesn't explain how exactly the diamond is missing. Many assert, Dahlia lost the diamond, but there no proofs, but if to think another way, then Dahlia could just sell this diamond and will get 2M dollars, then she would live fabulously and richly. Generally, no explanations of it.
6:53 - You make hasty conclusions.
8:07 - Ooooh, so Fawles is clever and lucky now.
8:09 - What prevented you from doing this before?
8:12 - And you're not better.
9:19 - Then you could murder him also as Valerie, but you're not so determined enough.
9:25 - And only fools are being led on you. Simon Keyes was working better.
9:28 - Not only men.
9:54 - How many years have you been working, if you're believing her?
10:54 - Oh yeah, Diego knew who she was and he still decided that the demon would reveal the truth. A reliable plan! A reliable like a Swiss watch!
10:57 - Godot then said: "Then one fateful day, Dahlia wanted to meet with me...". It means, Dahlia invited Diego then. Backwards.
11:24 - Oooh, they read minds.
11:48 - You had already digged your grave.
11:51 - You were knowing that she is a scum and you still believe that she would reveal the truth like a good person? Scums never act like a good person, so an another tactic is required.
12:06 - And you aren't guessing yet that you gonna be executed in future.
12:19 - Then why did you invite him? *facepalm*
12:48 - Because your sister is a scum.
12:56 - I guess, it's cyanide?
13:34 - Same as Godot who killed Misty but not so serious like she. Nah, this isn't Undertale where you can revert to past save. Actions always remain.
13:39 - Well, you're just making your life worse, THAT what difference!
13:49 - I have noticed there, Iris and Dahlia are talking aroung sitting people.
14:20 - Nah, not betrayed, Iris did right that she didn't help you.
14:22 - Look at yourself, girly. You backstabbed Valerie and betrayed Terry, so you're backstabbed scum too.
15:09 - Ah, you're narcissist.
16:47 - I think, Iris would say by crying: "Please, don't touch him, better touch me!" But I saw, you did it for edginess.
16:55 - Ooh, Iris acts like Dahlia. But ever Dahlia is bothering about forgiveness?
17:12 - Nice, you have guts.
18:23 - In Japanifornia.
19:12 - Aha. Firstly, you called Dahlia a demon, secondly, you treated her a nemesis after Terry's death, thirdly you were gloating by taking down of Dahlia. I remember, when you desired about it, Mia, I remember this.
19:17 - Dahlia tries to act coolly but fails.
19:22 - Of course, you can't.
19:30 - Yeah, you're right, Mia. Dahlia is sick in the head. It seems I can put diagnosis of Dahlia.
19:37 - Ah, you dare to teach me about life, when you just blame others for your failures but not yourself.
19:51 - What a narrow view of life!
20:03 - Maybe so, I dunno. But I know that you can't be a decent person out of shit and sticks.
20:08 - She is still trying to act like a badass pepper to the bitter end.
20:13 - It was powerful.
20:39 - Your face isn't better too.
20:58 - That you will scram from a mortal world!
21:23 - It because Dahlia presents herself in this way.
Dahlia Hawthorne, she is my last starting point to Ace Attorney fandom. I watched "Dahlia's cake is a lie" and after I got a gloomy dream. Then I imagined her like a cool villain but she turned out to be a mere loser. Finally, I found some who looked at her unhappy side of her life. Thanks.
iris stand up to her twin and said no is always the quiet ones the surprises us and she reminds me fluttershy
The types match.
i hope sonata from mlp ace attorney EOJ meets her counterpart mia fey soon
Everyone's talking about Dahlia Hawthorne (don't get me wrong, this video is spectacular for adding points to Dahlia's character) but I'm over here talking about how much of a despicable woman Morgan Fey is. She wanted the perfect child with spiritual powers because hers was weak. All for the sake of being head of the Fey Clan. She never considered any of her children as human but as tools for her *OWN* purposes. When Hawthorne divorces her, "Take your worthless offspring with you then." is the most harshest thing she's ever said. Like I said, she never cared about her children. She wants to use them for her own gain, and if they fail, she tosses them away without hesitation.
She's literally the reason Dahlia's life became worse when she lived with her Father, hence why Dahlia became the monster she is in order to enjoy freedom she had for 6 years.
Great analysis overall. Kinda hope one day that you do a video on Morgan Fey. It would be interesting to know more about her
Makes sense, Dahlia was taught (through example) the art of "manipulating and using others until they're no longer useful to you and you discard them", and it was definitely from Morgan