Nissan E-Power First Look | AutoDeal
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- Electric cars are slowly entering becoming popular thanks to skyrocketing gas prices. Nissan wants to help ease into this new era with its E-Power technology. Find out what makes it unique and how it can be a game-changer in the local market with our first look at the tech.
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if nissan makes this thing capable to recharge both via combustion engine and wall charger then i think that's the perfect bridge cos you'll be future proof
In japan you can charge it in Nissan dealership
Okay na yan. The fact na it charges itself while you are cruising. And the exciting part is the price if coco is not fooling around then this could be my ev car.
If nissan add wall charger Im in Even if it is a slow charger
Looks like the battery is too small. So main point is that the e drive eliminates the transmission and probably has better fuel economy as the engine is always running at optimum rpm
It will be too complicated
I originally thought that this is ridiculous because it is still a car with an ICE and no difference to a hybrid that we're familiar with. But more I think of it, more it makes sense. With the e-power here, the car doesn't need a traditional drivetrain. Therefore, no drive shaft needed, no gear box needed, no belts needed to drive AC or other accessories. These are wonderful advantages over the traditional hybrid cars.
As a drive of the e-Power kicks for 2 years now, I would say this car is brilliant. Servicing time is short and sweet, cos as you said, no gear, no timing belts, no drive shaft, no gear box. All in all, this car has performed rather brilliantly for me and my family since 2 years ago!
Generation 2 hybrid (engine basically drives a generator (alternator). In the US we basically skipped this stage and went straight to true EVs. But I recall Jeep looked at doing this (around 15 years ago) with the Wrangler where it would be electrically driven and used batteries. Then it had a small generator in the back to power the batteries if they ran down. This was a “solution” to help when the battery technology wasn’t as good as it is now.
Genius, a built-in generator. This is the perfect type of transition vehicle for Philippine EV regulations and EV infrastructure. As the country preps itself for charging stations all over, this is the cure for range anxiety. Very promising indeed.
This is not an EV. It's a petrol driven car no matter the marketing schemes devised by Nissan.
@@creigmacc Petrol driven? Did you understand the part that the engine is not mechanically attached to the wheels? Can't your brain comprehend that instead of charging the car through the wall/charging stations, it charges via the engine inside it?
@@jessep8281 remove the petrol. Where are you going?
@@creigmacc Remove the wall plugs/superchargers, where are you going?
It's an EV through and through.
@@jessep8281 it's not even a decent hybrid.
At 4:40 you said friction , it is not , it’s impedance of the generator that cause to generate electricity ⚡️, many many reviewers make that mistake ,friction does not make electricity only it makes heat 🥸
I drove the e-power Qashqai at Nissan training in Spain earlier this year, very impressive just waiting for September until it is for sale, our dealership also has Toyota this Nissan system is better.
I wonder how long it goes if it starts with a full battery and full tank of gas.
No need charging along the way still you can reach your destination even in a long drive, ang galing…
May we have details on the battery used for this e-power car? How is it different from Car batteries used ICE cars?
WHEN???? E POWER Xtrail now available in Australia
It's great don't get me wrong. We have been driving a Volvo C40 EV for 5 months and after fuel shortage and £2 litre petrol prices here in the east UK, putting fuel in a car is possibly outdated. Love the fact it does 600 miles but with a home charger and various charge points all over major routes no problem with full EV apart from the cost. Happy motoring everyone.
other concern that must be addressed is the constant flooding on Philippine roads. That has yet to be tackled by any of the car vloggers.
Ganyan na rin ang E-HEV power train ng Honda Jazz ko... except the gas engine can still power the engine directly at highe speed cruising of heavy rev... but for regular cruising it works like what you explained.
For me the main question is how is the efficiency of combustion engine when it burns gas and charge the battery? For every energy transformation there will always be waste and most of it is in the form of heat.
efficiency internal combustion engine is 40 percent and below
It’s better than pure gas because you don’t have a bunch of friction losses in the drivetrain, but it’s not any better than a conventional hybrid.
Still you need to buy a petrol for the electric motor to run as an alternative way of charging to a power outlet.
so this is a vehicle that uses gasoline to power a electric battery. did nissan got fukd by stupid.
Great review but lack on info when it comes to how many Km can it go on one charge and how long will it charge the e motor.
Japan have this couple years ago ye its super quiet and fuel efficient
Buy this good for 7 years daily use . After that sale it.
If u what to last long car I recommend Toyota Prius
Ang question how large is the gas tank for the (internal combustion engine (ICE) that's powering the electric motor
Capability/specs of the batteries were not dicslosed in the video.
Question is how long will the battery last? it's charging and discharging at the same time.
I think it is also important what the dealership will offer a good warranty on the batteries.
For sure it costs a lot
its bad for the battery to completely charged and discharge at the same time...... wear and tear is fast approaching i suppose.
Toyota has done this (hibrid) for many eyars without probblems.
Tesla batteries are expected to easily last 500000miles. Batteries have come along way.
@@pallsigursson3351 There’s tons of problems. Priuses are essentially gas cars past a certain age without expensive battery replacements.
@@proximaone1350 Those are big EV batteries that experience far fewer charge cycles. On a long drive, you could cycle a hybrid battery 10 or more times easily. In the same distance an EV battery wouldn’t even hit a full cycle.
One thing I would like to ask about to Nissan is the PARASITIC POWER LOSS due to inefficient transfer of power... In technical term it is far more inefficient than direct power system/conventional power delivery system. 🤔
The question is how many liters of gasoline it consumes while charging? Or one liter will charge for how many kilometers will the electric motor run?
This is like the engine is on high gear all the time to charge the battery to run the electric motor when needed. Hopefully the generator can help run the electric motor electrically as well when needed. But honestly, this is similar to hybrid without the actual engine running the wheels. Hope they got the calculations right in terms of energy efficiency.
BMW i3 has been doing this for years. I think it's what the world needs for now. The access to plugs is a huge problem for apartment dwellers.
Question, what if we have access to an outlet? Can we charge it instead of charging it thru the fuel?
This. Could we charge it overnight and use it as a full EV in the city?
nissan said it doesn't have a charging port
@@kimdahyunnie one of the reasons kung bakit mura to
It eliminates the need for an EV charger because the batteries are recharged using the brakes (regenerative braking) and the gasoline engine (acting as generator and is not directly connected to the transmission.) The batteries are divided into segments, so that when one segment is depleted, the gas engine and brakes will recharge that segment, while the transmission will use another fully-charged battert segment simultaneously.
Nissan's E-Power system is an example of a "Series Hybrid" setup, in contrast to the "Parallel Hybrid" used by Prius, Corolla Altis, Corolla Cross and RAV4 HEV variants, and the "Series-Parallel Hybrid" used by Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
That’s the point of a PHEV or a Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle, while the engine can be used to charge the battery, it’s primarily charges through the wall outlet or designated charging stations.
So the big question is that how much is the fuel consumption if the only use of of this ICE is for charging the e power engine? ... Are we talking about 40km/L...if that so then this is awesome.... Plus how many km does the e power engine can be used before the ICE kicks in...Hope Nissan answers all this
questions....
For those who are curious about the weight of this vehicle, it's approximately 1,300 kgs. Very similar to a Civic or Altis.
I can't wait for this, been waiting for Nissan to produce new models for EVs, and now its finally here!
The gas engines acts as generator, hmmm, Pwede kakatipid ka sa gas kaunti kumpara mo sa full combustion engine. Kasi. habang naikot ang gulong icha charge nya ang battery. Pag nag low voltage naman saka gagana ang gas engine para i charge ang battery.
How will this handle emergency breaks if this only has 1 pedal for all acceleration and deceleration? Enlighten us?
how is the fuel efficiency? charging the battery using gas for sure there are power losses and then from battery to the electric motors will also have significant power losses. How many km to a liter?
This review pales in comparison to PHEVs reviewed for the US market. There's no indication of how far the range is when in battery mode only, how many km/liter is expected, how much the trunk volume is, how much passenger room there is, etc.
So that's basically having a ICE generator inside your hood. Let's hope that ICE gas generator is fuel efficient like kubota gas genset. Prolly 1liter for 220V upto 2hours continues running genset . it's a great implementation. They should just put a compact genset like 1/2foot by 1/2 foot under the hood that can produce 240V with very efficient liter to hours running time. So this only need 10liters gas tank capacity since it should be efficient. No need for 4inline ICE for charging the battery and to power the motor.
Pls simplify your message..how much does it cost in pesos & how economical is that in terms of liters per kilometer or diesel versus the full internal combustion engine since it's still fuelled by petrol fuel...compared to all electric vehicle ?
Great vid! Can you please make vid regarding top 10 best EV available in our market? Thanks
its like having a generator set on wheels. BTW how many kw battery on board?
Thanks for the review
How large is the battery and will it have a plug-in charge facility included
You've talked a lot but you never mentioned fuel consumption of IC engine...KPL...thnx
I don't understand what do you mean by the great bridge? Why not just take out the bridge and let the gas fed engine run the wheels instead of the engine charging the battery then the wheels?
you have not shown if it can be charge via outlet. can it be? or its power input is just via the gasoline engine?
So it's more efficient for the engine to charge the battery than just pulling that car by itself?
So can you charge it at home? Or the only way to charge it is with the built in motor?
Interesting.. Still question of how far will the battery go and how much is it. Also weather resistance specialy flood
They call it a series hybrid rather than a parallel hybrid like the Primus and Corolla Cross. I hope there's an option to plug it in.
What is the kw/hp rating of the motor? What is the torque? If this has combined efficiency of more than 20km/li? Then hell yeah I will go for this
This reminds me of the picture where a gas generator is powering an ev charger
Is the batterey active cooled with the coolant lines or something in similar or does it share the same battery cooling system like the leaf uses? being a passively cooled battery.
Can it still be charged through wall outlets and/or EV chargers around?
7:15
Nice one autodeal. I just need an info of the fuel consumption for it to have a full charge?
Did they disclose the fuel consumption of the gasoline engine to fully charge the battery from zero?
Of course not the efficiency of a gasoline engine is around 40% and the efficiency of the charging system it's pretty poor at around 85 to 90% because of heat. The conversion efficiency is terrible the BMW i3 with a range extender has a terrible efficiency conversion. it's more efficient to simply have a regular transmission moving the wheels. Or a fully electric car. The BMW i3 Rex does the same thing. Has a little gasoline engine which powers a generator electricity to power the electric motors.
Discharging and charging at the samr time im curious of the battery range without the extender and how long the battery will be fully charge using the combustion engine
Electrifying! So somewhat like a generator powered by a combustion engine. I wonder what range it can do on a full tank... wait, how big is that?
Hope Caco tests this, on both EDSA parking lot-like traffic and on expressway speeds, once Kicks E-Power (or equivalent vehicles) start to come here.
You mean combustion engine working as a generator to power an electric motor? Check the Mitsu Outlander PHEV available locally and Nissan Note E-Power available in Malaysia for the fuel figures
It has a 41L tank, 1.2L 3cycl engine. If we use a conservative real world 18km/l mixed, that's over 740km on a full tank. The generator/battery warranty is 10 years.
why not make a way to attach an alternator so we don't need a lot of batteries and not need internal combustion engine?
My concern is with the wear and tear of the batteries. I'm wondering what can happen if the battery is fully drained. The motor charges the battery then when the car is running it also uses the power from the battery.
kaya ba ito magcharge habang tumatakbo ng hindi umaandar ang generator nya? if yes, in what speed
Since this is going to be the trend moving forward, I hope our lawmakers pass a bill that gives tax incentives to car owners who advocate green technology.
Would it not be easier to put a wall socket in your garage than buy a new car that is not a full EV?
Question if you park your car will the gas motor will be still running to charge the battery? Or it will only run if you drive the car?
There should be a variant that doesn’t have the gas engine (plug in only) which should be cheaper or does it really require the gas engine because the battery range is really small?
But how much fuel does that combustion engine consume when powering the Electric engine?
Will it be cheaper if I get the variant that has no gas engine inside? Pure EV only?
I hope you make a comparo between this and Chery Tiggo 8 PHEV.
it is a Plugin Hybrid EV. that also charges the battery while driving and also has the option for plugin charging
ito yong magnda if mapadpad ka s mga provinces/remote area
So a hybrid? How's the fuel consumption? That's the most important question.
So can you use this when fuel runs out to charge the battery?
It makes do with less than 2kwh battery & an ICE without a flywheel. Which are formidable. unfortunately that's also why it cannot be a PHEV which requires atleast 10kwh battery & boasts much lower co2 emissions.
So here's the deal. If your country does not tax you by emissions, go ahead and buy this series hybrid car and enjoy. As for those of us here in India, we are just going to have to wait until this power-plant hits our shores.
Hope we alsoget the Qashqai here. A bit bigger than this Kicks.
nice. the body design is same as nissan kicks.. thats what im driving now
is there gonna be a plug-in option?
I rather buy the hybrid than that, you have better options in case of problem
Does the gasoline octane still matters on an E-power engine?
Electric vehicles should have solar panel roofs as well.. so the batteries can be charged even in very long drives.. no need to worry about loss of power and electricity costs.. very self sustaining!
I wonder why many EVs don't implement this, maybe it's a matter of efficiency. Still, if you work 8 hours a day and your car is parked under the sun for 8 hours even if it just trickle-charges the EV, hey IT'S STILL FREE ENERGY and still could slash a couple of pesos off the maintenance costs.
@@poiXquared You would need a HUGE roof to make a dent using solar panels. Not practical at all
@@jima7925 so it is a matter of efficiency.
Please Nissan don't forget that the Philippines also want your epower e4orce. And hopefully Qashqai be equip w/ e4orce. And hopefully all Nissan e4orce can go 200+km/hr top speed. Hopefully!😆
Would like to see more contents like this hybrid and electric car
this just like the Li One. Thou Lin One is bigger because its an SUV. I wish we can have those here
Please Review the BYD Dolphin EV
how efficient hybrid cars on mountainous regions??.
like going down Baguio city to Nueva viscaya, via Ambuklao road, vice versa
One full charge = how many kms?
How many liters = 1 full charge
but can you still plug it in wall to charge?
Hi, my new X-Trail(Rouge) e-Power e-4orce uses avg 8,5-9,1 l/100km after 5500km so tell me who reports, that it uses less fuel than normal hybrid. Maybe my car has some error of the e-power system. BTW driving experience is excellent. Starting "up the hill" is easy - it is just an EV car.
I bet fuel consumption on this type of car is more compared to conventional car (ice). More energy conversion means more energy losses, thus it burns more fuel. This does not help curb CO2 emissions, infact it contributes more co2 to the atmosphere
A similar car that was launched and introduced in the UK and Europe around 9 years ago, 2013 I think.
The gasoline power unit that charges the battery is actually a Generator, BMW calls it as Range Extender power unit.
This type of EV cars, BMW i3 Range Extender and Nissan E-power with Gasoline power unit, is not really going to save you on fuel cost!
In the Philippines, the cost of Electricity is really super expensive as well, a big fraction of energy source in the Philippines is powered by Diesel 😭.
Is not really going to save you on fuel costs? Have you driven one? Have you checked the reviews? This is the same Kicks E-power (if I'm not mistaken) released in SG for the ASEAN countries. It gets about 25-30kpl in city conditions. I don't get why are you comparing a 2013 unit to a 2022 one. And a BMW of among all things.
Diesel power plants produce a very small fraction of the total electricity produced in the Philippines. These are mainly confined to small islands or very remote places. Coal is number 1 source of electricity, followed by natural gas, then by geothermal and hydroelectric sources.
But the cost of electricity is still high.
This type of EV car will still save you fuel as it is more efficient to immediately convert the output of the engine compared to converting it to mechanical energy.
What kind of mileage are you expected to get?
It's the Nissan Kicks E-Power!😲
It's basically a an EV that uses a gasoline generator. Once the Philippines shifts its energy mix to more Renewable sources albeit still monopolized.
I don't think this car model and technology with age well unless it has out of this world efficiency in fuel economy.
Why not a Hybrid? Isn't a hybrid a better bridge between pure ICE and pure EV?
pwd naman sabihin na kombinasyon ng kuyente at gas.
As much as I love other AD videos, this one is a miss. The video spends most of its time explaining that the ICE is for charging only which I totally get. But it would have been nice if they also disclosed the figures of mileage that it would generate on a liter of fuel. Because if it does not have an advantage in the fuel consumption area, then what is the point. I am hoping that this E-Power tech would output at least 30KM/L to justify its price over a hybrid from Toyota which would be just under the same price point.
From what I saw from another yt channel who test a nissan with e-power in sg, it says it is capable of approx 25km/l. If it is a little over 1m then it is bang for the buck already, other hybrid with almost same consumption like toyota altis hybrid(cheapest for now) is 1.6 m.
@@surewin8893 If it is just over 1M, then it would be on a class of it's own and would be really easy to sell. But as said on the video, it will be under 1.8M, so I am expecting around the 1.5M-1.7M range which already has steep competition from Toyotas hybrids: Corolla Cross, Corolla Altis
@@jayceedaily I think i need to rewatch it, I thought he said 2.8m for the car that he is reviewing but the car that will be release here will be a 1.8m less 😂 btw check byd dolphin a full ev but the price goes up a little (thanks gov taxes) to 1.78m, still looks promising.
@@jayceedaily I just rewatch it. Caco said that the car that will be released here will be 1.8m less than the price of Nissan Leaf which is 2.8m. can't wait to see it.
@@surewin8893 EXACT QUOTE
"I went inside the room and asked the executives if its at least a million pesos and they said, less than the Nissan Leaf, which is obviously 1.8M, and they said it's less than that."
It's less than 1.8M, not 1.8M less than the Nissan Leaf. Which also aligns with other sources saying its gonna be released at 1.5M
Isn’t this insane gas powered with exhaust also to propel the e motor
Waiting for solar cars havent seen yet solar panels on roof etc
Nissan all the way! 🙌
What's the range on a full tank?
These car is two thumbs up… its a winner…
How's Nissan CVT these days?
Wondering about the maintenance cost for this one..
Can the ICE continously charge the EV without charging it directly to an electricity socket?
Electric mobility🔥
Wow Thanks 🤯
Can you still charge it on an outlet?
So it still needs fuel, so what's the fuel consumption for this vehicle?
Would anyone opt for this Nissan e-power at a whopping 1.8M than the Geely Coolray turbo?