It would definitely be interesting to see what it could handle with regards to emulation. Seems like a nice little box to hook up to a living room TV in order to emulate GC, DC and PS2.
Amazing vid! I literally just bought this thing and it arrived yesterday. Working on getting it up and running right now. Really appreciate you finding those M.2 spec sheets buried on their website!
Love the video Lauren!! Always good to see when you post!! This PC would be a great candidate to swap the thermal paste for PTM7950 as it might help the cooling out.
Another great video, Lauren! Loved the "Professional" bit at the end! Got a real chuckle out of me. Looking forward to the DEG1 video. And, I'm in agreement, OLED all the way. It's hard going back to an non-OLED screen once you've been spoiled by one.
Quality Content as always! My recent build was a small quiet build using Phantek Shift Air 2 and parts based on your previous reviews! Keep up the posts !!
This is fantastic, I had never really considered a Mini PC and now I want one 😅😊 very nice video, can't wait to see what you do with that External Dock 😊
The docked GPU I look forward too. Wendell showed a Beelink with a docked GPU; but it didn't AMD. I swore a bit! This video was a nice surprise; I was just off to bed. 👍👏👏👏
What i don't love about AMD APUs is that you don't get the best CPUs the company has to offer. On Intel you can specify an iGPU without compromising on CPU performance. On AMD you get a completely different die with the cache cut in half compared to standard, and no X3D option, while extended cache and X3D in particular are how the best AMD CPUs gain their impressive performance. Still best choice for a power constrained laptop, you're getting a more robust more versatile machine without the cost, and same for ultra small form factor nettop or NUC style PC like this, but as far as PCs in general or if you could dedicate a little more space to a small form factor PC with a dGPU, well it's the kind of compromise you'd rather avoid. Of course the problem with Intel's approach is that the iGPU is too cramped.
I've not really paid attention to the iGPUs in Intel's most recent chips, but they had previously always been the bare minimum for display output and video acceleration. They'd barely run 2D indie games... has that changed?
OLED is stunning for games and movies. I use a 42" 4K120 TV as my monitor and I love it. But if you need higher FPS or better connectivity options or a smaller screen, you should get an OLED monitor.
If you haven't unceremoniously popped off a heatsink, you haven't been working on PCs long enough. 😅Looking forward to seeing how the dock changes the game, literally and figuratively. 👍
It was made by Eaglemoss who unfortunately went out of business. It's made of a mix of die cast metal and plastic parts. I try to put different ships in each of my videos to justify the investment made into my ship collection lol Fanhome have a new ship subscription collection starting soon, which is a continuation of Eaglemoss's Star Trek ships and I'm very excited about it!
You always have great choices. May I ask, then why not a notebook with similar knowledge? Because it's better for an office. Let's say I'm going the other way. Since there is no case that suits me, I designed one and printed it out. It's barely four times the size of this one. Quiet, 32 Thread and I can drive it crazy even with the best video card. Compared to its size, it hardly takes up space and is easy to transport. But like I said, I haven't even found anything similar anywhere.
If i wasnt the kind of person to build my own small form factor machines for the exact use case i want i'd be all over the MS-01 and MS-A1 love the design and features. If they were to update it to the rumored 4 channel Strix Halo with 40 compute units i just might pick that one up for home, and work. At work we had to go down to a single CAD lab because those big workstations arent exactly ADA compliant, and the small form factor cards arent exactly powerful enough(looking at you XX50 class GTX 4060TI/RTX 2000 ADA) I have a similar small form factor OLED display as my secondary display, love it, cannot wait for 22 inch 1080p 120-240hz OLED so i can put them everywhere, even for my kitchen TV I wish they had found a way to shove in full sized desktop DIMMs instead of SODIMM, the 8700G sees a great performance bump with DDR5 8000 in 1:1, though the FCLK and UCLK cant quite hit those speeds. Actually genuinely upset that the UCLK is worse on my 8700G than my 5700G With both of my 5700G examples i could do 5000C17-17-17-28 with the MCLK/FCLK and UCLK all at 2500 (1:1:1:1) which means if there was DDR4 that could hit the speeds, it could do DDR4 10,000 C34 in 'gear2' Sure my 8700G's MCLK will go to 4400(DDR5 8800 in 1:1) but the FCLK seems to top out at 3200(6400 in 1:1) which is admitedly better than the 2500 on the 5700G HOWEVER while the 5700G does 2500 on everything, the 8700G's UCLK tops out at an absolutely pitiful 2200 despite it being on a new node. Normally, i'd say this isnt a problem, but because the FCLK cant hit 4000, and only my really small memory kit can hit over 8000, this means that my UCLK is holding back the GPU because my choices for DDR5 8000 comes down to running the DDR5 at 4400 with everything in 1:1 OR running at 8000 with MCLK at 4000, but the FCLK and UCLK at 2000 similar memory bandwidth and worse latency than my 5700G I'm hoping this is because this is technically AMD's first generation of DDR5 controller, where the previous "DDR5" controller in the 6800H/7735HS didnt actually support DDR5 DIMM/SODIMM, only LPDDR5 and are not compatible with
Great video, Mini PCs are pretty neat! Quick sidenote: your mic being recorded in stereo is making me dizzy. :( Any chance you can use a non stereo mode or mix it to mono for the next one? That would be amazing, thanks!
I think I used to do so but somewhere along the way I stopped doing it as part of my editing process. For the next upload I will give it a go. Thanks for the feedback.
1:30 Just my opinion, but if they aren’t designed to attach to the back of a monitor via the vesa mounting holes, then I don’t consider them a mini PC. This size is very close to a mini-ITX small case eg the Gemcase C9
10:19 You might want to check how your gaming PC is configured. I have a 5800x (non-3D, not overclocked) and it significant beats the scores you were getting (both single and multi) with your 5900x
I would buy a mini pc, but they are far more expensive than a full size system. These systems are literally loaded with a laptop motherboard and sold like if they were a premium gaming desktop.
I read in multiple places, that the minis forum bios has an unusual long boot time. Did you have any issues like that? Not that I reboot my machines often, but for a media player pc that wouldn't be great.
I'd say the boot time was pretty standard. Maybe it's slower if you use different memory than the set included with the pre-built option, or something like that.
I got mine earlier this week... when I opened it I noticed that something was loose inside the enclosure... and after opening it I found the socket cover was loose... When I checked the socket the socket pins had visible damage... so return to sender and now waiting for a replacement... I did get a quick reply, but I had to pay for the return postage and that sucks donkey doodles...
That does suck, but it's nice to hear that they've accepted the return. With socket pins the customer is often automatically assumed to have damaged them, which would usually void the warranty.
@@2009numan UK people wouldn't say "2 zero" out loud, it would be "2 O as in the letter. I worked in a call centre for years and everyone would say O not zero when repeating someone's phone number.
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This mini PC would make for an INSANE mini server! Great video, Lauren! Cheers!!!
The idea of cobbling together an NVMe NAS with $3000 worth of drives sounds hilarious.
Not the smartest use of money lol
in love with my sexy black noctua fanned 1l 2x NVME nas
7:31 11/10 foreshadowing
I loved that 😅😊
It would definitely be interesting to see what it could handle with regards to emulation. Seems like a nice little box to hook up to a living room TV in order to emulate GC, DC and PS2.
The APU can in theory run everything up to PS3 without any issues.
Glad to see you still producing videos :)
sometimes i forget i'm subbed to you, then poof! a new video of yours pops up on my timeline. always entertaining. great B roll
That's what they bell is for, so you don't forget
Such a refreshing take on pc reviews. No bs. Thank you! 👏
Amazing vid! I literally just bought this thing and it arrived yesterday. Working on getting it up and running right now. Really appreciate you finding those M.2 spec sheets buried on their website!
Yay! I’m so glad you got the Minisforum. Love it!
Good video, Lauren! I got a little chuckle out of the tag at the end. 😅
Love the video Lauren!! Always good to see when you post!! This PC would be a great candidate to swap the thermal paste for PTM7950 as it might help the cooling out.
Another great video, Lauren! Loved the "Professional" bit at the end! Got a real chuckle out of me. Looking forward to the DEG1 video. And, I'm in agreement, OLED all the way. It's hard going back to an non-OLED screen once you've been spoiled by one.
Quality Content as always! My recent build was a small quiet build using Phantek Shift Air 2 and parts based on your previous reviews! Keep up the posts !!
This is fantastic, I had never really considered a Mini PC and now I want one 😅😊 very nice video, can't wait to see what you do with that External Dock 😊
The docked GPU I look forward too. Wendell showed a Beelink with a docked GPU; but it didn't AMD. I swore a bit! This video was a nice surprise; I was just off to bed. 👍👏👏👏
I was just pondering mini PCs the other day, how timely!
My mind went places 😊
Wish youd feature in your videos like you used to!
What i don't love about AMD APUs is that you don't get the best CPUs the company has to offer. On Intel you can specify an iGPU without compromising on CPU performance. On AMD you get a completely different die with the cache cut in half compared to standard, and no X3D option, while extended cache and X3D in particular are how the best AMD CPUs gain their impressive performance. Still best choice for a power constrained laptop, you're getting a more robust more versatile machine without the cost, and same for ultra small form factor nettop or NUC style PC like this, but as far as PCs in general or if you could dedicate a little more space to a small form factor PC with a dGPU, well it's the kind of compromise you'd rather avoid.
Of course the problem with Intel's approach is that the iGPU is too cramped.
I've not really paid attention to the iGPUs in Intel's most recent chips, but they had previously always been the bare minimum for display output and video acceleration. They'd barely run 2D indie games... has that changed?
looks good didnt know such things existed
Never thought to see a Minisforum Mini PC on your chanel :D Nice little review tbh :)
I'm looking forward to occulink, and this lil box look awesome
Nah, this video is brought to you by Queen's English love.
Very interesting, it's so versatile! Great review and tear-down.
Loved the ending.
I didn't 😂
Once you go OLED, you can never go back to anything else. Total gamechanger for everything you watch
As a nuc 12 enthusiast owner this with the i9 chipset and thunderbolt as well the oculink is quiet a hefty machine 😍
She'a back!
great to see your vids, keep them coming! :)
OLED is stunning for games and movies. I use a 42" 4K120 TV as my monitor and I love it. But if you need higher FPS or better connectivity options or a smaller screen, you should get an OLED monitor.
But can we cluster it.... and then cluster those clusters?!
Also, glad to see a Tasty video.
I wonder what their thinking was with adding four M.2 slots? They must have a use case in mind. Loved the end blooper
If you haven't unceremoniously popped off a heatsink, you haven't been working on PCs long enough. 😅Looking forward to seeing how the dock changes the game, literally and figuratively. 👍
Wow, that thing looks like a great bargain! Kind of makes me want to find a use case to play with one.
I like computer stuff, but I’m mostly here for your voice as it makes me feel less anxious. X
yes she has a very calming voice
Finally a woman, who can appreciate small sizes.
I had a feeling there might be an out-take from removing the cooler 😄
Waiting for the new AMD Strix next year. Phat graphics on those chips.
Great for a little media pc or server mixture of both
1:30 Where does one acquire the "Pheonix" you have in the background? Is it metal!?
Also nice to see that pink Pixel too.
It was made by Eaglemoss who unfortunately went out of business. It's made of a mix of die cast metal and plastic parts.
I try to put different ships in each of my videos to justify the investment made into my ship collection lol
Fanhome have a new ship subscription collection starting soon, which is a continuation of Eaglemoss's Star Trek ships and I'm very excited about it!
You always have great choices. May I ask, then why not a notebook with similar knowledge? Because it's better for an office. Let's say I'm going the other way. Since there is no case that suits me, I designed one and printed it out. It's barely four times the size of this one. Quiet, 32 Thread and I can drive it crazy even with the best video card.
Compared to its size, it hardly takes up space and is easy to transport. But like I said, I haven't even found anything similar anywhere.
If i wasnt the kind of person to build my own small form factor machines for the exact use case i want i'd be all over the MS-01 and MS-A1 love the design and features. If they were to update it to the rumored 4 channel Strix Halo with 40 compute units i just might pick that one up for home, and work. At work we had to go down to a single CAD lab because those big workstations arent exactly ADA compliant, and the small form factor cards arent exactly powerful enough(looking at you XX50 class GTX 4060TI/RTX 2000 ADA)
I have a similar small form factor OLED display as my secondary display, love it, cannot wait for 22 inch 1080p 120-240hz OLED so i can put them everywhere, even for my kitchen TV
I wish they had found a way to shove in full sized desktop DIMMs instead of SODIMM, the 8700G sees a great performance bump with DDR5 8000 in 1:1, though the FCLK and UCLK cant quite hit those speeds.
Actually genuinely upset that the UCLK is worse on my 8700G than my 5700G
With both of my 5700G examples i could do 5000C17-17-17-28 with the MCLK/FCLK and UCLK all at 2500 (1:1:1:1) which means if there was DDR4 that could hit the speeds, it could do DDR4 10,000 C34 in 'gear2'
Sure my 8700G's MCLK will go to 4400(DDR5 8800 in 1:1) but the FCLK seems to top out at 3200(6400 in 1:1) which is admitedly better than the 2500 on the 5700G HOWEVER while the 5700G does 2500 on everything, the 8700G's UCLK tops out at an absolutely pitiful 2200 despite it being on a new node.
Normally, i'd say this isnt a problem, but because the FCLK cant hit 4000, and only my really small memory kit can hit over 8000, this means that my UCLK is holding back the GPU because my choices for DDR5 8000 comes down to running the DDR5 at 4400 with everything in 1:1 OR running at 8000 with MCLK at 4000, but the FCLK and UCLK at 2000 similar memory bandwidth and worse latency than my 5700G
I'm hoping this is because this is technically AMD's first generation of DDR5 controller, where the previous "DDR5" controller in the 6800H/7735HS didnt actually support DDR5 DIMM/SODIMM, only LPDDR5 and are not compatible with
Great video, Mini PCs are pretty neat!
Quick sidenote: your mic being recorded in stereo is making me dizzy. :(
Any chance you can use a non stereo mode or mix it to mono for the next one? That would be amazing, thanks!
Also OLED is soooo good. I can't go back to IPS or VA anymore, lol.
I think I used to do so but somewhere along the way I stopped doing it as part of my editing process. For the next upload I will give it a go. Thanks for the feedback.
3 videos in one year, we're getting lucky... lol
I'll have you know that this was my 5th upload so far lol 😅
@TastyPC hold on, I'll ring the BBC to cover this amazing story 🤣
I'm joking of course. But I love your content
interesting minipc, thank you for the video
Size matters! I prefer a big juicy atx case
Very tasty
wake up, new tastypc vid dropped!
1:30 Just my opinion, but if they aren’t designed to attach to the back of a monitor via the vesa mounting holes, then I don’t consider them a mini PC. This size is very close to a mini-ITX small case eg the Gemcase C9
What's that mic you use? sounds very clear/detailed.
0:11 I-is that a wedding dress?
No lol x'D
No silly, it's obviously a maternity gown. 🙃🤭
Cosplay I would say 😁
It's a lolita fashion JSK. (A modern Japanese twist on Victorian & Rococo fashion)
Yeah, it's pretty. I was only joking.
tasty is back!
That could make a pretty good emulation machine.
Yes! Tastypc upload
5600MT is slow for an APU if gaming is your focus. There are much smaller mini PCs with the newer and better igpu in the Radeon 890m + 7500MT memory
I'm hoping to get one of them in for a review, and I'm also hoping AMD continue to make AM5 versions of these chips.
@@TastyPCI'll be looking forward to it!
Brilliant
10:19 You might want to check how your gaming PC is configured. I have a 5800x (non-3D, not overclocked) and it significant beats the scores you were getting (both single and multi) with your 5900x
Are you comparing my result to yours when running a different version of Cinebench maybe?
I would buy a mini pc, but they are far more expensive than a full size system. These systems are literally loaded with a laptop motherboard and sold like if they were a premium gaming desktop.
Welcome to the OLED club.
How does it compare to the Minisforum UM890Pro? I want to buy the UM890Pro to add an EGPU via Oculink. Thanks!!
What's the benefit of this form factor? Desktop replacement or home theater pc??
Some people like smaller systems to save space, others just think there's something cool about small but powerful hardware.
Wish this was a Ryzen AI 9 mini PC. Now that they're starting to come out and it's a tier above this 8700g.
😍😍😍
I read in multiple places, that the minis forum bios has an unusual long boot time. Did you have any issues like that? Not that I reboot my machines often, but for a media player pc that wouldn't be great.
I'd say the boot time was pretty standard. Maybe it's slower if you use different memory than the set included with the pre-built option, or something like that.
@@TastyPC Thanks for the answer.😀
Lots in the enterprise as they save space...
small size limitless potential thats what they call me
I got mine earlier this week... when I opened it I noticed that something was loose inside the enclosure... and after opening it I found the socket cover was loose... When I checked the socket the socket pins had visible damage... so return to sender and now waiting for a replacement... I did get a quick reply, but I had to pay for the return postage and that sucks donkey doodles...
That does suck, but it's nice to hear that they've accepted the return. With socket pins the customer is often automatically assumed to have damaged them, which would usually void the warranty.
12:35 Did you say Ryzen Evil Village? 🤨
would have got this if they kept the internal PCI-e slot.
If you have a Ryzen 9 7900 or 7950x , you should put it in this. Cinebench23 scores are amazing. ~26000.
🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡
WB! 🎉
Slick
That's what she said.
HOW DO I GET A 5090 IN IT!!!
Lul
Your sellout sponsor is literally more expensive than the ACTUAL cdkeys website 😂😂😂
DONBREKKIT
NO wabbage ?? I’m out.
Steam Deck open the flood gates of small amd PCs...
O is a letter so it would be 2. zero not O
I think it might be a British thing to say O and Zero interchangeably. You should hear us read a phone number lol
@@TastyPC I am in the UK myself
@@2009numan UK people wouldn't say "2 zero" out loud, it would be "2 O as in the letter. I worked in a call centre for years and everyone would say O not zero when repeating someone's phone number.
007 - Double O Seven
@@TastyPC Exact same in the USA
AI?