Ramanujan's Pi Formula

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  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    Ramanujan was literally self-educated and he came up with some superb formulas and more. I would say that among the recent 500 years of geniuses Ramanujan definitely deserves a place. That said, computer science of today use many of Ramanujan's formulas because they not only are brilliant, but computers love them with only a few tweaks. What is that? A guy, from India, self-taught in math, provided results that benefits all of the globe today (with just some small tweaks), isn't that GREAT? I am amazed, to say the least.

    • @piratesofphysics4100
      @piratesofphysics4100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      He should have lived 80 years. I'm from Bangladesh. My most respected man in the world. He is the most genius man from the big bang.

    • @AdarshRajCR7
      @AdarshRajCR7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      If he would have lived till 80 , we would have met aliens already.

    • @hemantkumar9303
      @hemantkumar9303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Indians are genius is every field they opt for especially MATHS.

    • @sowmitriswamy6718
      @sowmitriswamy6718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@hemantkumar9303 Stop your bragging, it doesn't look good. Geniuses - Newton, Galileo, Gauss, Euler, Einstein, Shakespeare, Darwin, -can be born anywhere.

    • @MABfan11
      @MABfan11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@piratesofphysics4100 if he had lived to be 80, Fermat's Last Theorem would've been proved much earlier. hell, he would probably be the one to solve the Riemann Hypothesis

  • @priyamshukla8670
    @priyamshukla8670 6 ปีที่แล้ว +665

    Ramanujan was genius.
    We Indian celebrate his birthday as a National Mathematics Day at 22 December.

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I feel like I could do what he did..

    • @harshitkumar4760
      @harshitkumar4760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@leif1075 why not? Anyone can be a genius :)

    • @niteshsrivastava3122
      @niteshsrivastava3122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@harshitkumar4760 😂😂😂😂

    • @_DD_15
      @_DD_15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@leif1075 I guess anyone can add all the positive numbers and come out with a negative one. 😂😂

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@_DD_15 Well I can do much more than that.

  • @malcolmbyrne
    @malcolmbyrne 8 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    3:04 wow! Just look at that formula. How can someone "discover" that! That must be real genius. I'm really enjoying this series, thanks.

    • @prajeeshprasannakumar1079
      @prajeeshprasannakumar1079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      When he died he was 32. & Hardy found him when he was at 26.

    • @ddstar
      @ddstar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      he used number theory based on a prime table of 25. I'm sure of it.

    • @musik350
      @musik350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ddstar could you elaborate?

    • @adrianbiber5340
      @adrianbiber5340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *3:14

    • @maloxi1472
      @maloxi1472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@musik350 No, like many lunatics on the internet, he cannot

  • @pierrejeanes
    @pierrejeanes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    wow I wonder what Ramanuja would discover and prove if he wouldn't die so yung

    • @user-og9nl5mt1b
      @user-og9nl5mt1b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Time travel and , worm hole math

  • @leobekayombo8087
    @leobekayombo8087 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I like it that you talk about Ramanujan's work. It seems that western mathematicians tend to minimize his contributions. That's not easy though.

    • @RinkuYadav-pn4jo
      @RinkuYadav-pn4jo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt why he died so early in a era when birtish colonialism and rascism was at its peak

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely not -- but my knowledge about Ramanujan begun by a beginner's class of computer science, so I cannot 100% agree with you on the "western" statement ... except the class was about numerical computing and thus not mathematician-only

    • @NetrocMagi
      @NetrocMagi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They definitely do a lot. I've seen westerners straight up deny Ramanujan and said he made up stuff on his own this lacking proofs. Incredibly ignorant, but I'd have to say none of those westerners seem quite educated on higher mathematics let alone basic math. l@

  • @AlexeiRamotar
    @AlexeiRamotar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +720

    Ramanujan's brain must have been wired differently. He saw math.

    • @josed6739
      @josed6739 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah he a mathmatican he knows How to solve partitions

    • @amalsrivastava6853
      @amalsrivastava6853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Ramanujan said that goddess saraswati would whisper all this in his ears

    • @niemandniemand2178
      @niemandniemand2178 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dumbass

    • @hidgik
      @hidgik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@amalsrivastava6853 You got that wrong. It was the Mahalakshmi of Namakkal. Big deal!

    • @stardustreverie6880
      @stardustreverie6880 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@niemandniemand2178 dumbass

  • @chaoticdays
    @chaoticdays 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    At 03:14 you say "no one knows how he actually got the formula". GH Hardy has stated that when he asked the same question to Ramanujan, he replied "God talks to me". This dialogue is also shown in the movie 'The man who knew infinity'.

    • @koushikmediga8397
      @koushikmediga8397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think he is the one who does the math, but as he believes in god, he just thinks that god communicates it to him.

    • @adityaagarwal636
      @adityaagarwal636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@koushikmediga8397 Actually not. It did happen that her deity goddess came in his dreams and told him the formulas, and then his work was just to prove them!!

    • @adithyadanaj9768
      @adithyadanaj9768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@adityaagarwal636 yeah that's that's he meant. Our mind works like that. Many scientists have had encounters like that. Where they get answers just after a sleep or having written something in their notebook during sleep. There are accounts for that. Ramanujan just attributed that to his godess but it was he himself who was actually doing it subconsciously. Our subconscious mind is surprisingly more productive when we focus on it

    • @koushikmediga8397
      @koushikmediga8397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adithyadanaj9768 yeah that's my point

    • @bv6168
      @bv6168 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@adithyadanaj9768 ramanujam is different than rest of the scientist or mathematician. He is uncomparable

  • @sanketgore8915
    @sanketgore8915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The pi formula that you mentioned which was discovered by Leibnitz was actually discovered by an Indian mathematician named Madhava about 300 years before Leibnitz was even born!

    • @azzteke
      @azzteke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Leibniz please.

  • @backpropagation8365
    @backpropagation8365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Euler, Gauss, Ramanujan, Jacobi are the true geniuses who spit out concepts after concepts and formulas that are the basic of every math today. Black holes are now being explained by Ramanujan’s mock theta functions discovered by him 80+ years ago, while on his deathbed and wanted to share it right away via a letter to Hardy because he knew it was so important to share. This is quite unexplainable how he could have seen the importance of mock theta functions that early. I do not recall any science genius or even any prominent scientist of having written down a piece of complex math that was applicable to an application that would only be discovered so far into the future. Basically, Ramanujan had the math ready to be put to use to explain a physical discovery that happened way into his future? This is superhuman. No other mathematician ,past or present , was this superhuman. It is quite unexplainable and bizarre actually.

  • @YazFidz
    @YazFidz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hey james, i just wanna say thank you. You're doing a great job at teaching us viewers about math. Keep on keepin on.

  • @DANGJOS
    @DANGJOS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    That man was one of the greatest mathematical geniuses ever!

  • @omkarpawar14
    @omkarpawar14 8 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    The man who knew infinity.

    • @bhavishyasharma7834
      @bhavishyasharma7834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MATHE MATICS don't make gods, they already exist

  • @RSLT
    @RSLT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look forward to seeing a new Riemann Hypothesis video by you. I believe it will be fantastic. Your insights on such a profound and challenging topic would be incredibly valuable. I've always admired your ability to explain complex mathematical concepts clearly and engagingly. A new video on the Riemann Hypothesis would be an excellent update to your content, and I'm sure many others would benefit from and enjoy it as well. Please do it!

  • @brian554xx
    @brian554xx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    A pie formula is called a recipe.

    • @Tfin
      @Tfin 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Brian Schiefen
      Everyone loves pie, and I want some now. I have no way of accessing pie at this hour.

    • @XoPlanetI
      @XoPlanetI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ReciPIE to be exact.

    • @saw7191
      @saw7191 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      brian554xx ReciPI

  • @vector8310
    @vector8310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As an inspiration, Ramanujan is irreplaceable. Euler and he have that effect on me. I'm compelled to take pencil to paper and explore mathematics

    • @yavuz1779
      @yavuz1779 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Evariste Galois too

    • @zwwx2142
      @zwwx2142 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yavuz1779 yes😎😎😎

  • @DaC10101
    @DaC10101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    It's staggering how someone managed to find such an apparently bizarre formula for τ/2...

  • @idjles
    @idjles 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've loved this formula for 30 years. Please show us a few terms or how it was derived, or how you get root(8) to X digits

    • @zwwx2142
      @zwwx2142 ปีที่แล้ว

      What formula?

    • @idjles
      @idjles ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zwwx2142 Ramanujan‘s pi formula!

    • @ernst9100
      @ernst9100 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ramanujan himself did not derive it from first principles..it was given to him in a dream by the God he believed in. The structure of Benzene which had evaded scientists was revealed to Kekule in a dream. God does miracles thru his chosen subjects . No one can explain how a simple Indian from those days who had no mathematical background in university could solve so many theorems, even attempted to solve Fermat's last theorem, thus came up with the magic number 1729 as the smallest number that can be expressed as sum of two cubes in two different ways...simply amazing

  • @whendaybreaks4317
    @whendaybreaks4317 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    2k views. 400 likes. 4:20 long video. my favorite mathematician of all time

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is a sobering thought I wonder how many 420 worshipers know that is also Hitler's birthday?

    • @egenriether
      @egenriether 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or George Takei..... Oh My.

  • @Low-addition1987
    @Low-addition1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If ramanujan would have lived 10-15 years more, we would be having the technology of self replicating spacecrafts to go to other planets/galaxies.

  • @mridul303
    @mridul303 8 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Formula for calculating value of PI up to 100 digits
    31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679/10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    • @yusufqaddura7103
      @yusufqaddura7103 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      lol

    • @ThePerfect1077
      @ThePerfect1077 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Mridul Tiwary isn't that "evaluates" not "calculates" ?

    • @mridul303
      @mridul303 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +ThePerfect1077 well someone has to do the division, either your brain or a calculator, which will actually "calculate" the final result.

    • @ThePerfect1077
      @ThePerfect1077 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mridul Tiwary hmmm i wouldn't call it a formula though cos there aren't any variables, nothing u can sub values into. like volume of a cube: v=h^3, u can sub in different values for h into the formula to find the volume

    • @mridul303
      @mridul303 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ThePerfect1077 that's true. Technically, it's a function.

  • @joyjeetdas6821
    @joyjeetdas6821 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ramanujan the best mathematician ever came on earth...proud to be an indian

  • @Roshkin
    @Roshkin 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    And as always, if you have been, thank you for watching.

    • @U014B
      @U014B 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      IT'S NOT THE SAME! 😣

  • @peterlindner3283
    @peterlindner3283 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the third video, since this is "The second video in a series about Ramanujan "? Thanks for your spirited and often enlightening series.

  • @TheMaplestrip
    @TheMaplestrip 8 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    So when are you starting on Crash Course Maths with Matt Parker?

    • @joshnigam7733
      @joshnigam7733 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yea, Parker squares in general

    • @MrHSX
      @MrHSX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Oh that'd be so awesome
      Hank recruiting the entire Numberphile team to star on their Maths videos...

    • @TheMaplestrip
      @TheMaplestrip 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Matt said he'd be in for it if James would do it, for what it's worth ;p

    • @onafehts
      @onafehts 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh, that reference though haha

  • @piratesofphysics4100
    @piratesofphysics4100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If God told me that ramanujan will come back but I have to die first.
    I would definitely die happily and instantly 😐

  • @petermerrotsy1011
    @petermerrotsy1011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, this result was actually published by Ramanujan in 2014 (QJM, 65, 350-372), hence accomplished before he went to Cambridge, and "values" such as 1103 and 9801 were not "deduced from numerical examples", but arise from his deeper, more genralised work on modular functions.

    • @petermerrotsy1011
      @petermerrotsy1011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @rf4life Yes, of course, 1914, thank you for the correction.

  • @MOHNAKHAN
    @MOHNAKHAN 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I am proud to say that I am from that Great Land India from where Ramanujan was...

    • @TheVicky3030
      @TheVicky3030 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mohna Khan
      He was a "Bootparast".

    • @yahikouzumaki2767
      @yahikouzumaki2767 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You people always need a reason to take pride in something with almost zero effort . Why not do something great and take pride in yourself ?

    • @prateekdalal1659
      @prateekdalal1659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @naz de even i dnt know from where are you from ? and you are just talking about india, try to make your country proud , dnt take any credit from other counrty . you are so negative like a nil/zero.

    • @prateekdalal1659
      @prateekdalal1659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@yahikouzumaki2767 with zero effort LOL, you are the biggest joke , can you count me your contribution regards to your country which provide some impact on other countries ?

    • @prateekdalal1659
      @prateekdalal1659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @naz de if you cant respect your own country , so its very sad to say you have done nothing in your life and also for others its like a , as you can so you become, now come to the point of cleaner things , you have fully filled with self ego and a uncertainty , i am also lived in Paris but i cant figure out any cleaner things compare to urban city like in india. India is much cleaner than your thoughts .|| Respect from Indian guy ||

  • @ericvilas
    @ericvilas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    controversial maths? Would that happen to mean Ramanujan sums of divergent infinite series?

  • @pnachtwey
    @pnachtwey 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I used 355/113 as an estimate for PI when I was programming 16 bit micro controllers without floating point. Try it.

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Accurate enough for the vast majority of practical applications on Earth.

    • @egenriether
      @egenriether 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      without floating point isn't it rounded by the processor to 3? I use the Parallax Propeller (an integer-based controller). If you put in 355/113 for example, I think you just get 3. If there's a workaround I'd like to have it

    • @stevenvanhulle7242
      @stevenvanhulle7242 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      egenriether - I guess he means a FPU, i.e. floating point done in hardware.

    • @egenriether
      @egenriether 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pedro Pendejo Amigo oh yeah... that seems like it would work. I use floating point libraries now that do the job but I’ll try that sometime. Thanks

    • @RubenHogenhout
      @RubenHogenhout 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2143/22 = pi^4 is even better.

  • @ramanparashar1
    @ramanparashar1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ramanujan was on the mathematical scene for only 4-6 years doing Maths along with managing his livelihood in a foreign country, fighting ill-health & prejudices and scores of other issues..
    Researchers are still discovering new things in those 4 years of Mathematics that he has done..

  • @megawattapps
    @megawattapps 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Leibniz did not actually come up with that formula you talk about at 1:41, it is miscredited to him. Check out the documentary "The History of Maths" on Netflix it talks about it

  • @georgemissailidis7581
    @georgemissailidis7581 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Or for a better approximation, 9089/(747√15)...Or for a better approximaion, 116881/(7932√22)...Or for a better approximation, 58651979/(3466840√29)...You see, π ≈ A/(B√C) and there seems to always exist two distinct integers A and B such that A is odd, A > B, and C = 7n + 1, ∀n ∈ ℕ.Now you might say there always exists two integers X and Y to satisfy the equation π ≈ X/Y but if it was instead approximately of the form A/(B√C), then it seems like there exists two integers A and B where this form is accurate to π by at least 6 decimal places ⇔ C = 7n + 1.

  • @jackwright2495
    @jackwright2495 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    FYI, the stress is on the second syllable of "Ra-MA-nu-jan."
    BTW, 355/113 = 3.141 592 920 = pi * 1.000 000 085!

  • @Yakushii
    @Yakushii 8 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This might be a hard habit to kick, but Ramanujan was Indian, and the "-man" syllable is the one that should be emphasized. Not the "-u".

    • @EmperorZelos
      @EmperorZelos 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Yakushii and worship the cow, don't forget the cow worshipping

    • @KevinSolway
      @KevinSolway 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      +Yakushii "the "-man" syllable is the one that should be emphasized"
      Not very politically correct in the modern climate!

    • @Yakushii
      @Yakushii 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kevin Solway - Haha, sorry. I should have said Ramanujan/Womanujan.

    • @EmperorZelos
      @EmperorZelos 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kevin Solway BURN THE FEMINIST!

    • @AnotherCuber5050
      @AnotherCuber5050 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Yakushii You're right. It's pronounced as RAA-MAAN-u_Jen

  • @josepereira2759
    @josepereira2759 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Profesor, i have a doubt. Ok, ramanujan's formula is incredible, but it uses √8 which also has to be aproximated, right? What is the point of having an approximation for a irrational number using an irrational number? Like, is it computationaly easier to estimate √8 than pi??

  • @bemusedindian8571
    @bemusedindian8571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its called the Madhava-Leibniz series. Madhava of Sangamagrama is still not recognized for his work. In a way, rightly so, because of very little historical evidence.

  • @wyattarent156
    @wyattarent156 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I didn't know you had a personal channel! Instantly subscribed

  • @sidhambaramaadhimurugan5475
    @sidhambaramaadhimurugan5475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the reasons for genius of ramanujan was his food.. What food we eat determines what we are... Food influences our mind , body even our behaviour , our character... Our inteligence , our thinking ....
    Animal flesh , egg will have negative influence on our thinking, (which means not giving high level thinking which means we cannot think broader as well as deeper , if we eat non veg we can able to think little deeper but not clearer )
    Gives Negative to our intelligence growth, (lower intelligence)
    Gives negative to our behaviour and character( anger, hatred, lust , desire, ego, selfish which are all negative or dark)
    Gives the bad karma which is action/reaction which means you do killing and cause pain , then you will get pain frim others
    Ramanujan was vegetarian.... Thats why he doesnt have the bad karma of killing and eating animals.... Thats why gods love energy/light can easily getdown in his consciousness...
    If we eat non veg , we are making our karma darker and thicker that it becomes very very difficult for god energy to enter into us..
    If you are vegetarian its enough...... dont need to be vegan ...

    • @roberthoffenheim7861
      @roberthoffenheim7861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bullshit. Most great mathematicians in history ate meat. Not saying that eating meat is a good to thing, in fact factory farming is very cruel and the meat industry is destroying the planet, but eating meat is not detrimental to mathematical ability.

  • @pneptun
    @pneptun 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's all good and well but WHY does this formula work; what's the theory behind it? That's why i came here. Found the formula elsewhere, can't make sense of the wiki page related to it so i was hoping for an explanation here :-/

  • @jamespklett
    @jamespklett 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is that device on your desk behind you? And are those markers or tapes to the right? Can't make them out, just curious - thanks for your videos !!!!

  • @kyanite1164
    @kyanite1164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please post your resources!! I would love to read more and where you got your info from!!

  • @MrDarkNomad
    @MrDarkNomad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciated the energy and content

  • @VideoMathTutor
    @VideoMathTutor 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a similar abacus as the one on his desk. Had it since the '80s. Love it!

  • @astrovert.ed2321
    @astrovert.ed2321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, this is very informative. I have seen formulae by Ramanujan and the Chudnovsky brothers, but how do these compare in accuracy with the actual value of pi?

    • @ernst9100
      @ernst9100 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no actual value of pi.....it goes on and on to infinity, just like the number e

    • @astrovert.ed2321
      @astrovert.ed2321 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ernst9100 Noted Sir. But generally these two would align with the actual irrational value to what extent?

  • @AdarshRajCR7
    @AdarshRajCR7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ramanujan didn't knew a lot more than any other person. The fact that he studied all the mathematics on his own using a book gifted by his friend is Insane.

    • @GyanTvAmit
      @GyanTvAmit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thats why he ruled brits

  • @earlystrings1
    @earlystrings1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a dim sense that Leibnitz's infinite sum to approximate pi is doing, in essence, what Archimedes was doing with his calculation of ever-more-sided inscribed and circumscribed polygons. But I am as far from being a mathematician as it is possible to be. Perhaps someone can explain if this in any way correct?

  • @Ace1King1
    @Ace1King1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is only one number that consecutively repeats itself nine times in the first one and a half billion digits of pi. What is the 10 digit number and where does it begin in the sequence?

  • @Eric-im6eq
    @Eric-im6eq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about dividing 16 by 113 plus 3, that will also give Pi with six correct digits. With help of my HP-35s calculator.

  • @shahbazsheikh3545
    @shahbazsheikh3545 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what is applications of these pi formulas? Don't we already know pi to be 22/7 (or is that also an approximation formula)?

  • @jayrajganatra8782
    @jayrajganatra8782 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can anyone please explain how Ramanujan derived the formula. I know he addressed it but I didn't fully understand.

  • @peanut12345
    @peanut12345 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tell me all the pi formulas used to make tires, cans, china, pistons, windows,pizzas, etc? They all use 6 numbers.

  • @clashott4372
    @clashott4372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The man really knew infinity ♾

  • @ApplicationBot
    @ApplicationBot 8 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    I was going to make a joke about forests, but why wood I?

    • @Kino-Imsureq
      @Kino-Imsureq 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      lol?

    • @GenericInternetter
      @GenericInternetter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i'm you didn't because it would have been irrelevant

    • @pyotr_sky7431
      @pyotr_sky7431 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ugh gross😂😂😂 jfbfjsbsvsjwvvaj

    • @adityashankar5723
      @adityashankar5723 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Generic Internetter
      You didnt understand the joke?

    • @sayonmondal3454
      @sayonmondal3454 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      But you made it....

  • @leif1075
    @leif1075 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did Ramanujan and Leibniz come up with those formulae?

  • @marcschmidtpujol550
    @marcschmidtpujol550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know if he really did write sqrt(8) instead of 2sqrt(2)? Would really like to know!! Good video :)

  • @explorewithcate3040
    @explorewithcate3040 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    God I love your explanation, I've been watching your videos all day long for goodness

  • @lindy7985
    @lindy7985 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Math geeks complaining about too much mail?

  • @monosizroy7017
    @monosizroy7017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ramanujan formulae joins the chat
    My brain : Alright imma head right out

  • @geoffklassen9402
    @geoffklassen9402 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And we have been, so you're welcome for watching. ;)

  • @sidorak12814
    @sidorak12814 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that the prime number generator is still on the desk

  • @skarumuru
    @skarumuru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The formula for pi you attribute to leibnitz was originally discovered by Sankara , an Indian mathematician some 200 years earlier, leibnitz name still figures in math history books ‘cos - white man invented everything.. great ..

  • @uselessperson1731
    @uselessperson1731 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey do you clear maths queries ? queries in particular problems?

  • @youssefbenhachem993
    @youssefbenhachem993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But how did he get to the formula ?? I mean it's quite weird to find such result in the first of the 20th century . Only one possibilty is left , which is he was seeing maths far more differently than anybody.

  • @Fiyaaaahh
    @Fiyaaaahh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will you talk about Ramanujan's almost integer numbers at some point this week? For me that's his works that appeals the most to my imagination. Especially considering he derived them way before any type of serious (digital) calculator was available.

  • @twertygo
    @twertygo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    looking forward to the next video since I don't know how math is going to be controversial :)

    • @WatchingTokyo
      @WatchingTokyo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe something related to 1 + 2 + 3 + ... = - 1/12

    • @hadensnodgrass3472
      @hadensnodgrass3472 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +WatchingTokyo No, the document he sent to Cambridge had already deduced that. So it unlikely Grime would use that, plus it has already been done a thousand and one times.

    • @inkolore2
      @inkolore2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +twertygo If you want to see controversy you just need to check the comment section of some of Numberphile's videos, like 1+2+3+ ... = -1/12, problems with zero, infinity paradoxes.

    • @twertygo
      @twertygo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +IceNoob88 But it's all just logical and makes sense!

    • @bonbonpony
      @bonbonpony 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +twertygo Then jump into some math forum and ask if √4 = +2 or -2, or just the +2 ;)
      (On second thought: _don't_ :P )

  • @coolfreaks68
    @coolfreaks68 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is the channel is now named singing banana ? I remember the channel name used to be numberphile...

    • @chandir7752
      @chandir7752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Numberphile is a different channel it still exists

  • @jonathanschossig1276
    @jonathanschossig1276 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that the prime number generator in the background?

  • @kellykitkat40
    @kellykitkat40 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How difficult is it to pronounce, or learn to pronounce, his name correctly?

  • @GB-gi6ft
    @GB-gi6ft 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ramanujan and blackhole..pls make a video on it too

  • @emiligiltomas1998
    @emiligiltomas1998 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, can anyone solve me this doubt? When we're looking for pi digits how do we ensure that the digits that we get from the formulas are right? Thanks.

    • @manpreet9766
      @manpreet9766 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emili Gil Tomas eg. The Leibniz formula is derived from the expansion of inverse tangent function which is an identity. Putting 45 degree(Pi/4 in radians) angle on one side we get 1-1/3+1/5.. on the other side. In other words the formulas are exact and are proven to be correct.

  • @shashanksistla5400
    @shashanksistla5400 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video!

  • @pegy6384
    @pegy6384 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    For Ramanujan, who wasn't a crank--why wouldn't he include proofs in his letters?

  • @ParticleJesus
    @ParticleJesus 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Get your calculators ready, the _-1/12_ series is coming.

  • @jaggubhai44
    @jaggubhai44 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could be a good teacher.you explains complex things very understandable and easily comprehensible

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blech, meters.
    Does the sq.root of 8 have anything to do with the eight decimal places thing?

  • @shandyverdyo7688
    @shandyverdyo7688 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, 355/113 is 6 digits too?

  • @Earwaxfire909
    @Earwaxfire909 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has AI been applied to this type of series calculation?

  • @Ilestun
    @Ilestun 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmmmmm, u said 6 decimal accurate enough...ecetera......but don't forget that you have to evaluate sqaure-root(8), and to evaluate square-root (8), it is just "as complicated" as it is for Pi................so that part of video doesnt rly make sense to me.

  • @Mrius86
    @Mrius86 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I calculate the first series described in the video?

  • @bambapabbi
    @bambapabbi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should it not be ramanujans pie recipe?

  • @swaroov9236
    @swaroov9236 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    who is rammnajan?

  • @stellagilbert
    @stellagilbert 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love these!!

  • @Dave-lr2wo
    @Dave-lr2wo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the electronic thing in the corner?

  • @randomreviews5693
    @randomreviews5693 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My brother who is engineering topper says physicists are afraid of none but Mathematicians.

  • @SirDominic
    @SirDominic 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive only just noticed this - is that a soroban in the background on the table?

    • @tehjamerz
      @tehjamerz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      much better than the iMac that was there previously

    • @blindmanbliff
      @blindmanbliff 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dominic Ransom suanpan

    • @SirDominic
      @SirDominic 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      blindmanbliff ah yes i see the extra bead on the upper row, i didnt know there was a difference - thank you very much

  • @jesusthroughmary
    @jesusthroughmary 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why isn't it 2206 root 2?

  • @Doggyshakespeare
    @Doggyshakespeare 8 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    3:53 "But, everyone loves pi"
    No. #taumasterrace

    • @ZardoDhieldor
      @ZardoDhieldor 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      tau>pi

    • @robin888official
      @robin888official 8 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      +Zardo Dhieldor And 7>tau, what's your point? ;-)

    • @palmomki
      @palmomki 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Zardo Dhieldor that's literally true!

    • @ZardoDhieldor
      @ZardoDhieldor 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +palmomki Not only literally though! :)

    • @Sparton646real
      @Sparton646real 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      +Zardo Dhieldor Pi gets you to the other side of the circle, tau gets you nowhere.

  • @adityakhanna113
    @adityakhanna113 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:59, Don't we get that formula by putting in "1" in euler's sine formula (derived from expansion of e^ix), shouldn't it be sin(1)??

    • @FFA1996
      @FFA1996 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Aditya Khanna The infinite sum at 1:59 does follow from a series expansion of a function, but it's actually the series for the arctangent (or inverse tangent) evaluated at 1 (since sin(pi/4)=cos(pi/4)=sqrt(2)/2 so tan(pi/4)=1).

  • @Tfin
    @Tfin 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK, he said it again so I have to ask: Are people over there commonly employed as clarks rather than clerks?

    • @heatherh520
      @heatherh520 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +R3Testa It's simply a matter of pronunciation.

    • @AlecBrady
      @AlecBrady 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +R3Testa It's the normal British pronunciation. We also pronounce "derby" as "darby". I can't think of any other examples, though.

    • @ib9rt
      @ib9rt 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Alec Brady Hertfordshire, Berkshire and Clerkenwell are three more.

  • @cn6633
    @cn6633 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to know the prove of the PI FORMULA..

  • @rickseiden1
    @rickseiden1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. Grime, when you add two rational numbers, don't you always get a rational number? And when you subtract two rational numbers, don't you also always get a rational number? (Whole numbers are closed over addition, subtraction and multiplication, so I'm assuming so). Therefore, wouldn't 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + ... give you a rational number in the end?
    One final question, isn't this the type of quakery that you talk about getting in your inbox all the time?

    • @NowhereManForever
      @NowhereManForever 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Rick Seiden No. Think about what an irrational number is. It is a number which cannot be written as a whole-number ratio of two integers. Think of pi in our number system. It is written as 3.1415... and it goes on for infinity. When you are doing this, you are actually doing an infinite series and you don't even know it. It's saying pi = 3/10^0 + 1/10^1 + 4 / 10^2 + 1/10^3 and so on. Even though it is the sum of rational numbers, you are doing this an infinite number of times. When we say this "equal" to pi, that's a bit confusing to people who don't know a lot of calculus. Essentially we have defined infinite series like this to be equal to their *limit* which is a concept which (in more mathematically sound language) says that for every term in this series you add, the sum gets closer and closer to its limit. If we are thinking about a finite number of terms, you're right. The answer will just be a rational number which is really close to pi. However, if you consider an *infinite* number of terms our usual concepts of addition need to be supplemented with extra definitions like limits to make sense of this stuff.
      If you're interested in learning this stuff, I recommend watching a khan academy video or two about limits.

    • @NatsumiHinata
      @NatsumiHinata 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Rick Seiden Infinite sum of rational numbers may equal to irrational. Another example would be
      3+0.1+0.04+0.001+0.0005+.. = 3.1415... = pi

    • @KrazyisSloth
      @KrazyisSloth 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Rick Seiden Real numbers are defined as any number that can be expressed as a (convergent) infinite sum of rationals. Infinite sums are weird.

    • @rickseiden1
      @rickseiden1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +jacob robertson I'm beginning to think that irrational numbers are the General Relativity of the Mathematics world. Everything you think you know goes to pot when you start talking about speeds close to the speed of light. Everything you think you know goes to pot when you start talking about infinities.

  • @madhukaraphatak
    @madhukaraphatak 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving this series.. Keep it up

  • @DRD363
    @DRD363 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about a video on the roots of 200, 64, 90, and 30 and their relationship to each other.

  • @ITsmapleTimexD
    @ITsmapleTimexD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    KEEP IT COMING! I'M LOVING IT!

  • @TimJSwan
    @TimJSwan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hilbert was a normal human who made sense.
    Godel was a guy who was rational.
    Einstein was a regular man who understood logic.
    Euler was a reasonable husband and father.
    Galois was a talented bachelor.
    Ramanujan.. Compared to them, he was like an insane alien genius who must have obtained non-finite intuition from spiritual beings.
    Screw what Hardy said about him being 100 and Hilbert being an 80, they are all 1's and he's still at the limit of 100 on that scale. We can't figure out where he was because nothing he figured out was anywhere near normal. Go look at his work for yourself. It was strange and different. It wasn't even proofs or restricted to logic systems. He had crazy intuition results and approximations which are insanely accurate yet not precisely the function, so all the more curious how he developed them.

    • @a6hiji7
      @a6hiji7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was a genius with a great intuition similar to the likes of Gauss but I think it was the lack of formal training and the lack of guidance in formal research which contributed towards his early work being more based on intuitions.

  • @gabbersingh2866
    @gabbersingh2866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make video of this formula

  • @adityaagarwal636
    @adityaagarwal636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:22 He actually said that his deity goddess came in his dreams to tell all those unproved formulas to him, and then he just tried to prove all these afterwards. That's why there are still no proves to many of his formulas, but all of them work....

  • @gurnihalsingh6252
    @gurnihalsingh6252 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro I have tried the second fomula and it is same as first and we get only get first 6 digits of pi and not 8

  • @wiredog771
    @wiredog771 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    can someone please explain something to me. One of the flashy points of the Ramanujan story is that he had no formal training. well, even I can tell that his letter to Hardy was filled with calculus notation. do they mean just that he didn't study math on the college level?

    • @abhilashavulla2813
      @abhilashavulla2813 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WireDog it is said that he didn’t had formal education.. he proposed many theorems which already existed at that time. He also proposed many new ones which proved his merit.. directly approaching the solution is mysterious..

  • @icecubegaming3661
    @icecubegaming3661 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir I have a pi formula of myself which can calculate upto 7 decimal places