Carol was my 3rd cousin and Kim my 4th cousin. I grew up with Kim. She was the sweetest of people, and I loved her dearly as my cousin. As an adult, she hiked daily up to the top of Stone Mountain here in Georgia to watch the sunrise. I am not sure what the disconnect was with she and her mother's mistakes, but I can say that when we hike now, we always take maps, a compass and rain gear. Both Kim and Carol were outstanding people, and I miss Kim particularly every time I go out hiking. Thank you for your empathetic treatment of their tragic story.
Very welcome... They both looked like wonderful people. I could relate to them being hikers and outdoors enthusiasts. That's cool Kim used to hike up Stone Mountain regularly. They are both not forgotten...Thank you for your comment.
My friends always poke fun at me when we go to the local trails for a day hike bc my standard pack items are a first aid kit, rain poncho, socks, knife, ziplock bags, candy bars, etc. They aren't hard trails, lots of them are paved and well marked. And my friends think I'm over-prepared. But you know what? Better over prepared than under prepared, imo.
I watch the missing 411 videos about missing hikers and hunters. They suggest a beacon locator device using a satellite. Could be a life saving investment
My brother and I hiked into a lean to on Lake Colden in the Adirondacks on a hot Friday on Memorial Day weekend. As soon as we got there, the weather changed. Dark clouds appeared in Avalanche Pass and we were literally in a blizzard for 2 days. Fortunately we were able to make fires with a tarp over the fire ring. We had warm clothes and sleeping bags and put a tarp up to enclose the lean to. We were able to get out alive. God was watching out for us.
One thing to add for anyone going out on the mountains or on a trail, don’t rely on gps. I use gps and it is great but take a map and compass and learn how to use them. Take photos from behind your direction of travel so you have an idea of what the terrain should look like on the way back. Keep an eye on where you are at regular intervals. All this can be fun on the trail and you quickly get to know how to read your surroundings. Also, here in Scotland, we tend to take an emergency shelter,( basically a tent without poles), and overnight emergencies just incase we get stuck out overnight. Lastly, always tell someone exactly where you are going. After all that, go out and have fun and a good, safe time.
Great idea about taking pic from behind you! Me and my husband got lost hiking one time for 4-5 hours, it was terrifying until we figured our way out! We were not prepared either, never again!
Idk why this channel doesn't have a million ppl watching? Host is great, stories are awesome, and the whole concept is perfect! Wish there was a new episode everyday.
I primarily hike solo... If something is not going to plans I TURN BACK... the biggest problem is most hikers keep going.... Backtracking is a lot easier to do before you go down an unknown path... Also if I forget an important piece of gear I will stop my trek... Its as simple as that... I have done thousands of miles in the deserts and high rocky ranges... SOLO..Stay safe, God Bless 🙏
If this is something you do often, just go out and buy a satellite device. As long as you have that, in working condition of course, you can just call for help.
@@shannoninalaska I have a sat phone...and gps systems... but you can't solely rely on things like that when it comes to survival... that is a foolish sense of security...
How sad to hear this story. I have 63 years of backpacking experience with 23 of them on military tours around the world. It amazes me to see folks leave their vehicles to go on supposedly simple hikes wearing what they arrived in, maybe grab a bottle of water and a light sweater or jacket. As a former survival instructor in the military I informed my students to be prepared through training, practicing what was taught to them in the didactic setting. Mother Nature is beautiful but she can turn on you very easily. I've heard of people going on short hikes and never returned to their cars. A 68 year old female hiker on the Appalachian Trail went off the trail to relieve herself, got lost and died in her tent...her body eventually recovered some years later. Just knowing how to use a compass can save your life.
Also common sense, knowing your limitations, and being aware of your abilities. Inchworm, lady eho went 2 miles off course was known not to have a good sense of direction and getting off course. Unfortunately when her friend quit. She decided to continue on instead of quitting, stopping, etc. It's difficult to do but doing so would've saved her life. Better to stop and live than continue and take a chance that could result in death.
I recall this sad story, but I heard their remains were discovered during the search for Garrett Bardsley in 2004. Garrett was a Boy Scout who was lost after leaving his father and fellow scouts while fishing on Cuberant Lake in the Uintas to return to camp less than .25 mi away. As a resident of the south Utah County community where Garrett lived I participated in the search. No sign of Garrett or his remains were ever found.
He didn't say what search was being done when they found these hikers but he did say it was a year later when they were found. That would line up correctly with the details you mentioned.
I remember this one too. So tragic, especially since I had scout sons of my own. People who have never been to the Unitas just don’t comprehend what “High Wilderness” really means.
@@cheebaman4728 you never know what’s out there. After all, governments and scientists are working on such things with the collider and who knows what else.
As my wise old grandad used to say "when the weather gets curly - pull out early" - that was one of his mottos. Always tread on the side of caution when you're in the wilderness and be willing to turn around and go home at the first sign of change.
They were not experienced with terrain like that and didn't pack the proper clothing, small mistakes can kill too, they may have huddled together for warmth this story will allow for a warning to others . Weather in this setting can turn on a moments notice
We lived in Germany for three years when I was a teen. Dad was there with USAF. In August one summer we went camping in the mountains in southern Germany for a week. We had brought typical summer clothing and gear. Had a tent for all to sleep in. After there for just two days, it started turning cold. It dropped from the 80s during the day to only 40s and below freezing at night. They weather people said that it was the coldest it had been in that area at that time of year in 300 years! We tried to buy extra clothing to wear. No jackets available that time of year. From that time to this day, whenever out hiking or camping or even just on trips, I always take extra cold weather/rain gear. Being prepared for most anything is EVERYTHING.
I’ve lived in Utah for 26 years & I remember when this happened. I’ve also hiked, mountain biked & trail run all over Utah’s mountains. I have backpacked into the high Uinta’s beauty & camped. Oh man though, I would never risk going in at that time of year. Such a terrible tragedy and horrible way to go. Great coverage. I just discovered your channel and I’ll keep watching.
@@earnold1896 I'd rather freeze to death, if I had my choice, and it likely would be painless, after hypothermia sets in. Dying from heat would be very painful, I would think ?
I was actually there last week. I'm a Utah resident and remember when this happened. You do great research! It's June 20th and it snowed last night in all the Uintas
I was up there on the 20th also and we hiked up to bourbon Lake. I can't imagine being stuck outside that night. Once the weather changed it got super cold, quickly. Trees falling all over the place too in the wind (or from a Bigfoot haha).
Being from Georgia they really didn't have any idea when it comes to cold weather.. took the environment for granted. Paid the ultimate price rest in peace girls what a shame
This is one of those times where the old advice, "if you're lost stay put and wait to be found" was not the right course of action. I helped search for Garrett Beardsley that next summer in this area and remember thinking about these women.
.Hi Chris, This one was obviously hard for you to tell. You told it well and I pray for their family.Thank you for bringing their story to the world and to remind All of us, that life is precious. Always be prepared. So good of you to share. Keep em coming. You are a fantastic teller. Cheers! Liz from Ontario, Canada
I am a Utah resident and I have spent a lot of time in the Utah and Montana mountains. Weather can change so quickly. I just returned from a girl's getaway to Park City a couple of days ago and the temperatures in the mountains drop quite radically especially in the High Uintahs. My heart hurts for Carole and Kimberly as well as their families. Thank you so much for sharing this story and reminding us how to stay safe in the wilderness.
@@francisdashwood1760 not that it matters and not really sure how that would be a "bright spot" but, although Chris referred to the ranger as "him", the Ranger was actually female.
Sad. Sometimes inexperienced people take day hikes too lightly. They think the trail will be well marked and the weather will hold. I know my limitations. I’m not a back country hiker and that is that. I stay to the well worn and traveled trails. Kudos to those like you who are prepared for anything the back country throws at them.
I agree with you Kathleen. What seems strange to me is how two women fly across the country and choose the High Uinta's. I wonder what kind of experience they had in the past with that sort of country? I always carry a personal location beacon. (Garmin Inreach Explorer+) that allows me to send an SOS and text via satellite.
It’s not unusual for out of nowhere snow storms to hit the Unitas…in summer. Hiking in that area in Sept is like playing Russian roulette with the weather.
Thank You Chris for the story of the lost Ladies. I'm sure it will help a lot of people be more prepared when they venture out. My Prayers for their Families. Thanks again Chris.
Thanks Chris, I live in Utah and this was so great that you talked about how to stay safe in the high country. So very sad for this mother and daughter.
Hi Chris, thank you for this story. I'm from Queensland, Australia so we don't have snow but camping is massive here and there are some very remote and dangerous locations. I love seeing the beautiful landscapes you visit.
You've got great scenery too. I loved the trip from Brisbane to Maroochydore (hope I spelled this right) with my aunt and uncle ( my mother was a war bride). Australia, however, is a very long sit in the long, tubular can from the west coast of the USA!! 🤔
I appreciate the respectful way you handled this story. You did not blame and shame and recognized that people make mistakes of all sizes and some results are unfortunate or even fatal. We’ve all been there, some of us survived to share our experiences.
This was a sad story Chris 😚 you told it with sympathy and sorrow. Always sad when people lose their lives, but seems like a bit more knowledge about camping would have possibly saved them. Rip to these victims. Thank you for telling these tales, even the sad ones.
The life jacket analogy was perfect. I could out swim most people and yet you won't find me on a boat without one. Utah is one of the most beautiful and potentially dangerous places to visit. I recommend people experience it but be prepared!
That was a terribly sad story 😢😢 Yes it's always better to take the proper gear hiking , camping or whatever the case may be. Thank you Chris for another wonderful story, although a sad one at that. Keep hiking man!! ✌✌❤❤😊😊🙏🙏👀👀
Thank you for another awesome story Chris. I recently found your channel, and I have watched most of your videos already. One thing I want to tell you is that my 60 years old mother that is learning English as a second language love watching your videos, she says you are one of the few people that she finds easy to understand because you speak so clearly, she doesn't use subtitles to watch your videos 🤣 and she loves all the mystery/paranormal subject too. Just know that your awesome videos are being used for learning too, be safe out there in the wild my friend.
He speaks like a Canadian, crisply, clearly. When I worked in the USA as a RN I got complaints that my speech was too crisp, so I added y'all to please them! Ha ha.
Very sad story Chris . Ultimately inexperience killed them , but like you say a few basic preparations would have likely saved them . Tragic . Enjoy and look forward to every video.
Great job Chris, I think this happens more than we would want to admit. Not all end as tragic as this one, People need to not fear nature but have a healthy respect. You go out unprepared nature can swallow you whole. Great message to get out there. Hopefully this will help someone. GREAT WORK!!
Such a sad story and all your comments at the very end about what they could have done differently were absolutely right on. Really pays to be prepared especially when you're hiking in December.
So sad. This is why you should always carry water proof over jacket and multiple ways to start a fire when going into high country no matter the time of year!
So sad..it actually reminds me of me and my mom. My mom used to come visit me when I was in college in Arizona. She always wanted to drive somewhere and go on these little day hikes. It just reminds me of something we could have done..cause both of us weren't very "experienced" in hiking . That story and the one about the guy who killed that mother daughter and daughters friend in Yellowstone reminds me of me and my mom and the horrific things that could have happened to us!
I think that you should do more video's on missing hikers to remember them and maybe we all can learn from their stories. Its sad but I believe that they would what to kept people safe even if it means learning from their mistakes.
No he isn't. Don't believe his hype or buy his overpriced books. He leaves out information to make his stories more interesting. He was fired from the police force for doing illegal stuff. Please find other books and podcasts from more respectable people. Don't buy into this guy's hype.
I'm one of those people who worries about how not to make the tragic mistakes that others have made. I truly appreciate your expert advice and will make a point to share this with loved ones.
Thanks for the story...Heart wrenching for those that were involved no doubt and a tough one to swallow...I learned my lesson as a very young Tenderfoot Boy Scout who had NO business going on the 50 Miler during the peak of summer with my Troop...It was my first hike and I was ill prepared...None of the hike masters or troop leaders checked my gear...Holes in my tarp, no rain gear or really warm clothing, old tattered sleeping bag, and no foam to get me up off the ground...Heat of mid summer (Pacific Northwest in late July) and on the third night we got over 2 inches of snow...I woke up in an inch of snow melt soaked to the skin and chilled to the bone...The wilderness is unforgiving and Mother Nature can take your life in a heart beat...Sad story here, thanks for sharing...Hope people will indeed take note of how fast things can and do unravel...
I’ve only just discovered your channel. I’m fascinated with your content. Great job on delivery! So far, I’m enjoying it immensely. Having had a paranormal experience myself in 1978, one which still has me completely confounded and open to hearing the experiences of others. If you will kindly indulge me, I’d like to share it here. It’s been a very long time since I’ve Talked about the story because I sometimes get remarks such as: “Were you on drugs, were you hallucinating, or I think you’re just making this up.” In 1978, I was 18 years old. I was in the best shape of my life, and I would often warm up prior to my daily jog by jumping rope right outside the barn on our fruit farm. On this particular day, it was sunny, beautiful blue skies and just a very balmy gorgeous day in Fennville, Michigan. My mother and my four sisters were shopping that day, and I didn’t want to go because I hated missing my jog. My health and well-being was just very important to me. My dad, having taken a rare day off was sitting by the window not more than seven or eight feet from where I was warming up. Now, the window was up. This is important to the story. So as usual I was jumping rope when suddenly the barn cat who had been sitting not more than a couple feet from me basking in the sun jumped straight up His back arched dramatically, howling like I’ve never heard a cat howl, ran across my feet and scrambled into the barn. Now this took just a few seconds. I suddenly had a tremendous feeling of dread. It seeped down from my head to my feet. I stood still, the jump rope now falling down by my side and knew that there was something to my right. And I did not want to look in that direction. Also, at this point, the atmosphere had completely changed. It had taken on a very strange bluish hue, as if someone had lain a filter over the atmosphere. I took a deep breath, and I slowly turned to my right where I knew that whatever it was would be. When I Turned to my right, I saw a ship floating right above our apple trees. These Apple trees were no more than 5 feet high. This was our younger Orchard, so the trees weren’t very tall. Hovering there over the top of the first tree was the ship which was white and had billowing sails flowing. However, the ship was standing dead still. My brain was trying to process what I was seeing. It was trying to figure out what this was, what it could be, and also would make sense to me. I thought that if I turned my head back and closed my eyes, and then looked back again it would be gone. I did that. But when I looked back not only was it still there, it was now moving in a very straight line upward and toward the sun. It was moving slow and deliberately. At some point, I realized that I heard screaming, and then I realized that the screaming was from me. I was screaming for my dad who should have easily been able to hear me. I continued to watch the ship until it was so far up in the sky that I couldn’t see it anymore. I had even watched it go behind a cloud, and come out on the other side still very much on its deliberate path. Only when the ship had completely disappeared did my dad come outside because he had only just heard me at the end. I told him that I have been yelling for five minutes! He said he hadn’t heard me until just then. Not only that, but once the ship disappeared, it seemed to me that a sort of release happened. Everything went back to normal. I suppose I will never understand what happened. But it feels good to have at least a platform in which people might not judge me. Thank you for giving the unknown and unreal voice. You have a new sub.
Hey Chris. I could see it in your eyes, and hear in your voice. This one really got to you. Sometimes it stories like this will get other people better prepared. Thank you. For the heads up.
Great video and lessons : Most important things in my opinion if you are forced to do emergency over night stay on a day hike : 1) Alwas inform family members or local authorities of when you leave, aproximate route and precise time you get back (this will keep up the morale in emergency knowing that you are cold, hurt or hungry, but atleast know that search and rescue are already looking for you and it is just a couple of hours) 2) Always carry extra water (in my case 1.5l) and food that is emergency only, there are even small emergency foods, I have these 6x cube shaped small emergency food thingies each 100 grams and they will definetly keep you alive 24h+ 3) Simple rain gear : poncho and emergency blanket (in my case 2x poncho) and you can make shelter and sleep in them. Military tought as to carry a simple candle and you can easily burry it in ground inside your shelter and it will generate heat equal to 1 person (So if you light more then more heat :))..... make fire if you can, but sometimes everything is wet, there is no space etc.... (there are these fire starter cubes firedragon which burn for 10 min and generate a LOT of heat, they can be used to warm up boil some water. 4) Carry chemlights (simple sticks that you bend and they glow bright for 24h.... they cost 1 eur a piece and you can easily carry a lot of them..... tie one down close to your shelter (in easily visible place, peak of mountain, grass clearing etc) and if walking then on your backpack and if there is a helicopter searching, he will easily see you from couple of miles, because you are a glowing object in otherwise pitch dark forest. 5) Personal safety : knife, knife and again knife for obvious resons.... if shit goes down you will atleast go down with a fight 6) Gloves and winter beanie hat Many more points, but these are the main.... have military mindset that nothing ever goes as planned .... and enjoy hiking, because you know that you are prepeared :)
A group of friends went on a hike and we’ve never hiked that mountain before so on our way up I started throwing pieces of a colourful plastic material I had on my backpack I was the last one of the group I didn’t want them to think I was being scared/paranoid of getting lost so the rest didn’t know about my little trace. Once at the top the terrains seemed plain and the forest was high and vast and the way down wasn’t that obvious at that moment someone recognised the fact that we were lost I told them of what I’ve done and we started looking for the trace that’s how we could find our way back. Proudest moment of my life 🫡
So tragic. Like you said, just a little more warm gear and a lighter. Sounds like things went fast once they got wet and cold, then the snow coming in. We can all take a lesson. Thanks for passing this on. Take care.
Even though it's sad, l do think it's important to learn from stories like this. As humans, we're definitely not cut out to endure the forces of nature - especially unprepared!
Another thing that is so simple is you can download offline maps. Even when you don't have cell service you can look at the map and use GPS to tell you how to get out of wherever you're at. I always carry an old phone with maps downloaded on it.
I just wanna say, I love your haunted and Bigfoot stories, but I have highly appreciated your two latest stories, great info, awesome information for beginner hikers/backpackers 😀
This was definitely an unfortunate event for both mom and daughter. Thank you for the time you took to put into perspective what may have happened. I just started learning about camping and hiking in the wilderness and I definitely learned much more from what is important when doing so. I may not have known them, but what happened to them is sad.
Thanks Chris for sharing this story and it was interesting but sad bc of what happened to these women hiking but did not have everything even for one day they needed emergency supplies but was not prepared for this hike...not used to the weather in Utah from the south....very sad and pray for their families and say condolences to them for their family members died...😓😓😥😞
Those rugged mountains don't forgive when weather moves in. One needs extensive outdoor knowledge, proper kit, clothes and in this age a pocket GPS signal device. Those ladies were caught unprepared. 😳 Very sad indeed. Cool cave 😎! Thanks for another good lesson in this story.
Thanks Chris that was a good one your really good at telling stories I could listen to you all night keep them coming and be safe out there can't wait for the next one
Thank you for sharing this story. As tragic as it is, I hope it can help at least one person avoid these mistakes. I usually have fun watching Chris' videos. This was not fun but it was necessary.
I cannot imagine how that ranger must have felt. I'm sure he wished he had been sterner in advising them. "Turn around, you're not prepared. Things can change in a moment up here." Yes, I'm sure he's replayed that day many times.
Could'ave been me. Things happen. First trip to N Carolina, my friend and I (Fl girls) explored a mountain side. Soon we were lost and amazing how dark it gets so fast. I'm blessed with an inner compass. We got out in the nick of time. This was a tragedy.
Great Story. I do SAR in Arizona. I've been involved in over 100 missions. Most people who get into trouble are day hikers. People assume because they have planned a short day hike they won't need extra gear and people like to pack as light as possible. We're all familiar with the term "pack lite, freeze at night". I tell people the moment you leave the parking lot/trailhead Mother Nature is trying to kill you. Here are a couple of small items I recommend carrying 100% of the time: Glow Sticks-If you hunker down and go to sleep put the glow stick high in a tree or bush near you location. Small light with a strobe. Can signal rescuers day or night with a strobe. Space Blanket-Easy to be seen by helicopter in the day, plus can keep you warm/dry. Fire starting supplies. Note Pad-You can leave notes with date/time and direction of travel. A few basic energy bars and electrolyte powder, we like Liquid IV. Signal Mirror. This is by no means a complete list of the 10 or 12 essentials but it's a few things to get you started. If you search my name on TH-cam you can see one of our rescues. STAY SAFE!
I hiked that same loop 2 years ago, the week before Thanksgiving. I walked on 2 of the frozen lakes, and got back to the car just as the snowstorm hit with a foot that night. But I knew the forecast before I left. I was of course the only hiker back in there. Just as a side note, there have been bigfoot sightings back in there and that's why I was there.
You do a great job telling your stories and I promise I'm not being at all negative when I say this, but I really like your strange stories where the people actually survive the best. Thanks, for all your story telling though!
We lived in Utah 2-1/2 years while students at the U of Utah, had relatives that area and also in Park City. My husband followed his uncle and cousins into the high Uintahs and remembered the trails well as there were no maps where they went, 1960-1963. We took logging roads as far up as we could and then hiked to the lakes and even spent a night. We made many excursions and had no gear other than what we were wearing. Our uncle warned us of the terrain, weather changes and sent his oldest son son with provisions the next day as he was concerned. We saw the weather changes, snow in July, cougar tracks the next morning leading to the water and we kept our fire going all night. if you don't know what you are doing, be accompanied by an experienced hiker and leave exact instructions on where you will be. I am sorry these two women perished, but the mountains are harsh.
Sometimes, gut instincts are the deciding factor. In 1984 I started fishing the north fork of the tilton in Washington state. Even though the season is 31 October I normally never fish after 1 October because the fall rains make it unwadeable, dangerously. I just came back from a contract in Saudi Arabia in 2012 and I was hell-bent to fly fish. In nearly 30 years I had never taken a backpack. But I just gotta gut feeling so I packed a first aid kit, tarp, Knorr's rice package, pan, hatchet, couple lighters for my cigs and one really oddball addition. During the year I brush my hair (52) and I clean out the brush and put the oily hair in a ziplock, the entire year. On a river where I can normally cross every 50 or 80 feet I was only able to brave the river three times in a mile. I put my pack on the bank and waded out and took a spill, a first. It's fifty degrees, very light rain, an hour of light left, took me three hours to get here, I'm soaked. Does not look good for the home team, I didn't have a lot of body fat to help keep me warm, no calories to spare. I immediately set my tarp up. Went back under a huge cedar tree where I knew there would be dry dead branches. Made a wood teepee with my ziplock bag of hair in the middle surrounded by the very smallest branches, those surrounded by bigger branches. It started pouring. That oily hair went up like gun powder, just enough to get everything lit. Cooked my rice, so some calories. Undressed and dried out my clothes. What a miserable night, raining for seven hours. Eight feet from the river uphill and woke at first light only three feet from the river. It took me over three hours crawling through brambles and downed timber and standing trees and across slick rock cliffs, could not cross anywhere. Made it out to my truck. Never again. But if you want something that lights a fire like right now, don't overlook your hair.
Great story telling. Thanks for this. I’m running the Wasatch 100 ultramarathon in September and so this is highly instructive and definitely gives me pause as I prepare for my adventure. I also got lost when I was 18 years old in Colorado on a short hike that almost made a huge turn for the worst. Thankfully I found my way back….the mountains are unforgiving…but such a treasure. My condolences to this pair’s family.
Great story and is full of lessons learned to be gleaned. I have a habit of hiking alone in the same mountains. I just realize that I rarely take my gortex jacket and pants. Last year I purchased a garmin inreach, i already carry quite a bit of survival gear but now my gortex is going in my ruck. I'll be in the same area this August-Sept. I'll keep this one in mind. Mahalo for sharing One more thing, about 3 years ago I was hiking in this area and I tend to carry a lot of gear even on dayhikes. I had an individual stop and ask why I had so much, about 20 to 23lbs. I really didn't know how to explain it to him but now I do.
It’s never a bad idea to learn orienteering even though electronics can do all that for us now. It’s always nice to know how to do things when electronics fail
Thanks for telling us this sad story Chris. PLEASE keep making these videos. I look forward to them so much and always try a new beer every time I watch them. God Bless!
I never understand why people keep going, Because when the further you go the wrong direction, the further it takes to go back. I learned my lesson when I was 10 with a Girl Scout hike. The leaders disagreed and I went the long way (peer pressure). Now I live in the PNW and I never do a lot of things! Maybe if people followed the “NEVER” rules, they’d be safer. NEVER go alone, without extra food and water, compass, itinerary, waterproof gear, warm clothing, hat and gloves, etc. A simple day hike even in the summer the weather can quickly change in the woods.
Public service. When I moved to Arizona in the 80s they had warnings on tv like you do. As a Minnesota born person I appreciated all of the info I could get. Thank you.
I remember hiking out of Christmas Meadows after a two night excursion in...it was hot and sunny....I was hot....we were about a mile or two from the car and suddenly the weather changed on a dime. It started sleeting. I was shivering uncontrollably as I struggled to get my pack off and get to my wet weather gear. I'll never forget it.....I plan for every weather contingency in the Uintas.
Tragic story. Prayers for the Family. Happens often in remote wilderness country. 4 years ago We had a hiker out for a 8 mile day hike a few miles from where we live die from exposure. Early October snow hit 2 feet fell overnight. They found his remains the following May. Being equipped to make a fire is vital when hiking in high elevation in Fall. Nice work👍 It Looks like your doing this Video in Nor-Cal Butte/Lassen County foothills or up near Alturas Modoc country.
Excellent briefing! Outstanding lessons learned! Awesome advice! At times I think we all tend to suffer from a false sense of security. Just because we’re in a State Park or a National Park does not guarantee it’s safe to be in there. Even a short 1-2 mile walk in the Green-Belt behind your home may become uncomfortable at least (dehydration) or tragic at worst (a fall), etc. Even your family dog can fall victim to a heat related injury during the hot summer months. These naturally majestic, beautiful places have a way of luring us in and farther than you may be physically capable of handling. Very intelligent people get easily ‘turned-around’ and lost out there. I’ve witnessed it first hand. That’s all natural challenges. Don’t let your enthusiasm exceed your talent. Another big threat is predators. Whether they’re malevolent humans or hungry wildlife. You’ve got to protect yourself anywhere you go. Caution.
I know that trail head well. There is a point in the trail where it disappears because the trail goes up some rocks. Lots of people keep going straight, instead of hanging a left and climbing the rocks. All the "mistakes", have worn what looks like the trail. It goes off into the trees for 20 yards, and then ends abruptly. Once lost, they wandered around looking for the trail. Big mistake, they should have back tracked immediately to the known trail the instant they were uncertain of the trail. People consistently underestimate the High Uintas. It can get down below freezing at night in mid July. If you are a rookie, go to Lake Tahoe, or Yellowstone, and stay out of the high country wilderness, until you have the skills, and gear necessary to survive. Wanna be's treat it like they are going to the park...dumb.
Those caves would make an excellent overnight shelter. They remind me of the wind caves in Southern CA where our Wilderness Basics class did a backpack and campout. The caves were from millions of years old rock and shell formations from when the area was undersea, and over the course of millions of years in time, the wind formed the caves. Fascinating! I was glad to hear at least the two ladies had some emergency supplies, including a first aid kit and emergency blanket.
Very good reporting, taking it from someone who lives in Utah and has traveled some in the Uintas and seen Mt. Watson, etc., it's almost as if you've been there so I can tell you're a thorough researcher. Thanks for the cautionary account. I will add one point though and I did not realize this until recently. If you look on a map you can see an uplift from about Vernal, UT that stretches out past the Dinosaur Natn'l. Monument into Colorado. That whole half of mountainous region is also known as the Uintas, just not the High Uintas. So, the High Uintas are the western half of the range and the eastern half are actually geologically considered to be the Uintas as well.
this is such a sad story. You certainly were very good in handeling the story with compassion and also giving info on what to take , such as extra food and clothhing.. sorry fot their family.🌹🌹
When "nice weather" is 50 degrees in day time........ How can one not assume a rainfall and a normal evening and night time freeze...... and everything and everyone is frozen......
@@sasquatchrosefarts the sad thing is the weather in uintahas is actually a drastic change in weather from Park City & salt lake. So I can see if the weather called for 50° and slight change could be a drastic change depending on the portion of the Uintah range
I've lived in Utah for years now. I worked in remote locations...I learned to always keep arctic gear in my car. No matter what day it is. And a propane grill, a case of chili, a sleeping bag and a fishing pole, etcetera.The wilderness here is nothing to joke about. It will get you
My heart goes out to the family…I cannot imagine how many times they second guessed themselves. Even when I’m on vacation, I call home, to check in or whatever, almost daily. It’s so easy to say “what we would do”, as we sit comfortably on our opinion holes, from the safety & warmth of our blankets while sippn hot cocoa (tea/coffee what have you) Just the mere attempt at putting myself, as well as my adult daughter, in their shoes-brings forth a truly horrifying mindset of how their final moments might have felt and I can’t help but sob for the lives they won’t live…as well as for those who must live on, w out their love. Always make a plan to check in with family or friends, every other day, if not every day. Always have a clear, concise hiking plan/route, and do not deviate from it. If spending time outdoors: hiking, hunting, camping - do yourself, your family & friends one tiny favor that could prove huge later-buy AND USE, a personal locator beacon. At. All. Times. God speed 🕊 ♾ 🤍
😢💞🙏💞 You did a wonderful job telling a hard story, and also showing us how easily this could happen if you're not adequately prepared. Thanks for sharing.
One thing I have learned from watching another channel (CanAm missing 411) when out in the wilderness always have a personal locator beacon with you. My life is definitely worth the $250 ish price-tag.
Man me and my wife love all your videos! You do a great job. If we ever meet up I'll buy the beer! My wife loves all the Sierra Nevada footage. Thank You and be safe!
Carol was my 3rd cousin and Kim my 4th cousin. I grew up with Kim. She was the sweetest of people, and I loved her dearly as my cousin. As an adult, she hiked daily up to the top of Stone Mountain here in Georgia to watch the sunrise. I am not sure what the disconnect was with she and her mother's mistakes, but I can say that when we hike now, we always take maps, a compass and rain gear. Both Kim and Carol were outstanding people, and I miss Kim particularly every time I go out hiking. Thank you for your empathetic treatment of their tragic story.
Very welcome... They both looked like wonderful people. I could relate to them being hikers and outdoors enthusiasts. That's cool Kim used to hike up Stone Mountain regularly. They are both not forgotten...Thank you for your comment.
I just learned about your cousins and I am so sorry for your loss. This was definitely sad. Love and hugs and prayers ❤️.
@@charlenep.santos8644 Thank you. Very kind of you.
Such a very sad story. Thank you for sharing info about Carol and Kim. Hugs to you and so very sorry for your loss.
I’m sorry :-(
My friends always poke fun at me when we go to the local trails for a day hike bc my standard pack items are a first aid kit, rain poncho, socks, knife, ziplock bags, candy bars, etc. They aren't hard trails, lots of them are paved and well marked. And my friends think I'm over-prepared. But you know what? Better over prepared than under prepared, imo.
Absolutely - don't change -and Keep Hiking!
True and as an added bonus you’re getting a better workout from the weight
@@monicageorgson4870 I've been including those items in my pack for the last 20 yrs. So if I'm not carrying it, I'd feel lighter. lol.
I watch the missing 411 videos about missing hikers and hunters. They suggest a beacon locator device using a satellite. Could be a life saving investment
My motto practice makes perfect
My brother and I hiked into a lean to on Lake Colden in the Adirondacks on a hot Friday on Memorial Day weekend. As soon as we got there, the weather changed. Dark clouds appeared in Avalanche Pass and we were literally in a blizzard for 2 days. Fortunately we were able to make fires with a tarp over the fire ring. We had warm clothes and sleeping bags and put a tarp up to enclose the lean to. We were able to get out alive. God was watching out for us.
You did well for such a change of events...glad you were prepared. KH!
YOU were prepared!
One thing to add for anyone going out on the mountains or on a trail, don’t rely on gps. I use gps and it is great but take a map and compass and learn how to use them. Take photos from behind your direction of travel so you have an idea of what the terrain should look like on the way back. Keep an eye on where you are at regular intervals. All this can be fun on the trail and you quickly get to know how to read your surroundings. Also, here in Scotland, we tend to take an emergency shelter,( basically a tent without poles), and overnight emergencies just incase we get stuck out overnight. Lastly, always tell someone exactly where you are going. After all that, go out and have fun and a good, safe time.
Thanks for the information 👍
Yes, thank you for this simple yet profound explanation of safety.
Great info!
Great idea about taking pic from behind you! Me and my husband got lost hiking one time for 4-5 hours, it was terrifying until we figured our way out! We were not prepared either, never again!
Love the photos idea.
Idk why this channel doesn't have a million ppl watching? Host is great, stories are awesome, and the whole concept is perfect! Wish there was a new episode everyday.
you and me both :)
Thank you Robert!!
Well I am new here and I can say this: I am here to stay!! 100000% agree with you! Where has this channel been?! I've been missing out haha
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I hope he never stops telling his stories. I look forward to them so much. I love your laugh, Chris, and how you seem to just love life. ❤
Because there are 50 other channels with same content...
I primarily hike solo... If something is not going to plans I TURN BACK... the biggest problem is most hikers keep going.... Backtracking is a lot easier to do before you go down an unknown path... Also if I forget an important piece of gear I will stop my trek... Its as simple as that... I have done thousands of miles in the deserts and high rocky ranges... SOLO..Stay safe, God Bless 🙏
If this is something you do often, just go out and buy a satellite device. As long as you have that, in working condition of course, you can just call for help.
@@shannoninalaska I have a sat phone...and gps systems... but you can't solely rely on things like that when it comes to survival... that is a foolish sense of security...
@@shannoninalaska
I highly doubted that she doesn't hike without either 1, after I read ur comment, she sounds extremely experienced & very smart.
How many unknown creatures have u witnessed?
How sad to hear this story. I have 63 years of backpacking experience with 23 of them on military tours around the world. It amazes me to see folks leave their vehicles to go on supposedly simple hikes wearing what they arrived in, maybe grab a bottle of water and a light sweater or jacket. As a former survival instructor in the military I informed my students to be prepared through training, practicing what was taught to them in the didactic setting. Mother Nature is beautiful but she can turn on you very easily. I've heard of people going on short hikes and never returned to their cars. A 68 year old female hiker on the Appalachian Trail went off the trail to relieve herself, got lost and died in her tent...her body eventually recovered some years later. Just knowing how to use a compass can save your life.
Thank you for your advice and I admire your courage ❤️
It's just idiotic to hike without a compass and knowing which direction your traveling.
Also common sense, knowing your limitations, and being aware of your abilities. Inchworm, lady eho went 2 miles off course was known not to have a good sense of direction and getting off course. Unfortunately when her friend quit. She decided to continue on instead of quitting, stopping, etc. It's difficult to do but doing so would've saved her life. Better to stop and live than continue and take a chance that could result in death.
Should be taught in schools. Had a Military Dad who was SAR and hearing his stories gave me a healthy respect for the elements.
Having grown up in Utah, I can attest that Utah weather can change very quickly. This is a very sad story. RIP
I recall this sad story, but I heard their remains were discovered during the search for Garrett Bardsley in 2004. Garrett was a Boy Scout who was lost after leaving his father and fellow scouts while fishing on Cuberant Lake in the Uintas to return to camp less than .25 mi away. As a resident of the south Utah County community where Garrett lived I participated in the search. No sign of Garrett or his remains were ever found.
He didn't say what search was being done when they found these hikers but he did say it was a year later when they were found. That would line up correctly with the details you mentioned.
I remember this one too. So tragic, especially since I had scout sons of my own. People who have never been to the Unitas just don’t comprehend what “High Wilderness” really means.
I just recently watched a story on Garrett. Hope one day they find out what happen to him -
Walked into a portal
@@cheebaman4728 you never know what’s out there. After all, governments and scientists are working on such things with the collider and who knows what else.
As my wise old grandad used to say "when the weather gets curly - pull out early" - that was one of his mottos. Always tread on the side of caution when you're in the wilderness and be willing to turn around and go home at the first sign of change.
They were not experienced with terrain like that and didn't pack the proper clothing, small mistakes can kill too, they may have huddled together for warmth this story will allow for a warning to others . Weather in this setting can turn on a moments notice
We lived in Germany for three years when I was a teen. Dad was there with USAF. In August one summer we went camping in the mountains in southern Germany for a week. We had brought typical summer clothing and gear. Had a tent for all to sleep in. After there for just two days, it started turning cold. It dropped from the 80s during the day to only 40s and below freezing at night. They weather people said that it was the coldest it had been in that area at that time of year in 300 years! We tried to buy extra clothing to wear. No jackets available that time of year. From that time to this day, whenever out hiking or camping or even just on trips, I always take extra cold weather/rain gear. Being prepared for most anything is EVERYTHING.
As they say, better to have and not need it, then to need it and not have it. Nature is very, very unforgiving wilderness.
This is a good story and they can serve as a warning that camping can be dangerous and one should be aware of the surrounding area
I’ve lived in Utah for 26 years & I remember when this happened. I’ve also hiked, mountain biked & trail run all over Utah’s mountains. I have backpacked into the high Uinta’s beauty & camped. Oh man though, I would never risk going in at that time of year. Such a terrible tragedy and horrible way to go. Great coverage. I just discovered your channel and I’ll keep watching.
Yeah horrible way to go but I wonder if it'd be even worse dying in extreme heat. I hope it was fast for them though.
@@earnold1896 I'd rather freeze to death, if I had my choice, and it likely
would be painless, after hypothermia sets in. Dying from heat would be
very painful, I would think ?
I was actually there last week. I'm a Utah resident and remember when this happened. You do great research! It's June 20th and it snowed last night in all the Uintas
Wow! I believe it. Great mountain range.
I was up there on the 20th also and we hiked up to bourbon Lake. I can't imagine being stuck outside that night. Once the weather changed it got super cold, quickly. Trees falling all over the place too in the wind (or from a Bigfoot haha).
Being from Georgia they really didn't have any idea when it comes to cold weather.. took the environment for granted. Paid the ultimate price rest in peace girls what a shame
Savannah ga stand up
This is one of those times where the old advice, "if you're lost stay put and wait to be found" was not the right course of action. I helped search for Garrett Beardsley that next summer in this area and remember thinking about these women.
.Hi Chris, This one was obviously hard for you to tell. You told it well and I pray for their family.Thank you for bringing their story to the world and to remind All of us, that life is precious. Always be prepared. So good of you to share. Keep em coming. You are a fantastic teller. Cheers! Liz from Ontario, Canada
Was hard to hear too, but still love his stories.
I am a Utah resident and I have spent a lot of time in the Utah and Montana mountains. Weather can change so quickly. I just returned from a girl's getaway to Park City a couple of days ago and the temperatures in the mountains drop quite radically especially in the High Uintahs. My heart hurts for Carole and Kimberly as well as their families. Thank you so much for sharing this story and reminding us how to stay safe in the wilderness.
One bright spot is that the girls didn't allow that Forrest Ranger to ''mansplain'' to them. I respect them for that!
@@francisdashwood1760 not that it matters and not really sure how that would be a "bright spot" but, although Chris referred to the ranger as "him", the Ranger was actually female.
Sad. Sometimes inexperienced people take day hikes too lightly. They think the trail will be well marked and the weather will hold. I know my limitations. I’m not a back country hiker and that is that. I stay to the well worn and traveled trails. Kudos to those like you who are prepared for anything the back country throws at them.
I agree with you Kathleen.
What seems strange to me is how two women fly across the country and choose the High Uinta's.
I wonder what kind of experience they had in the past with that sort of country?
I always carry a personal location beacon. (Garmin Inreach Explorer+) that allows me to send an SOS and text via satellite.
It’s not unusual for out of nowhere snow storms to hit the Unitas…in summer. Hiking in that area in Sept is like playing Russian roulette with the weather.
Love and prayers to Carole and Kim's family and friends. Such a tragic loss.
A very compassionate telling of a tragic story. RIP Carol and Kim.
Thank You Chris for the story of the lost Ladies. I'm sure it will help a lot of people be more prepared when they venture out. My Prayers for their Families. Thanks again Chris.
Thanks Chris, I live in Utah and this was so great that you talked about how to stay safe in the high country. So very sad for this mother and daughter.
Hi Chris, thank you for this story. I'm from Queensland, Australia so we don't have snow but camping is massive here and there are some very remote and dangerous locations. I love seeing the beautiful landscapes you visit.
Awesome...thanks for watching Doug. Love Australia!
You've got great scenery too. I loved the trip from Brisbane to Maroochydore (hope I spelled this right) with my aunt and uncle ( my mother was a war bride). Australia, however, is a very long sit in the long, tubular can from the west coast of the USA!! 🤔
I appreciate the respectful way you handled this story. You did not blame and shame and recognized that people make mistakes of all sizes and some results are unfortunate or even fatal. We’ve all been there, some of us survived to share our experiences.
Thank you!
This was a sad story Chris 😚 you told it with sympathy and sorrow. Always sad when people lose their lives, but seems like a bit more knowledge about camping would have possibly saved them. Rip to these victims. Thank you for telling these tales, even the sad ones.
The life jacket analogy was perfect. I could out swim most people and yet you won't find me on a boat without one. Utah is one of the most beautiful and potentially dangerous places to visit. I recommend people experience it but be prepared!
That was a terribly sad story 😢😢
Yes it's always better to take the proper gear hiking , camping or whatever the case may be.
Thank you Chris for another wonderful story, although a sad one at that. Keep hiking man!! ✌✌❤❤😊😊🙏🙏👀👀
Appreciate it Gloria!
Thank you for another awesome story Chris. I recently found your channel, and I have watched most of your videos already. One thing I want to tell you is that my 60 years old mother that is learning English as a second language love watching your videos, she says you are one of the few people that she finds easy to understand because you speak so clearly, she doesn't use subtitles to watch your videos 🤣 and she loves all the mystery/paranormal subject too. Just know that your awesome videos are being used for learning too, be safe out there in the wild my friend.
He speaks like a Canadian, crisply, clearly. When I worked in the USA as a RN I got complaints that my speech was too crisp, so I added y'all to please them! Ha ha.
Very sad story Chris . Ultimately inexperience killed them , but like you say a few basic preparations would have likely saved them . Tragic . Enjoy and look forward to every video.
Great job Chris, I think this happens more than we would want to admit. Not all end as tragic as this one, People need to not fear nature but have a healthy respect. You go out unprepared nature can swallow you whole. Great message to get out there. Hopefully this will help someone. GREAT WORK!!
@@larrymartineau7507 Being prepared does not lead to forgetfulness or mistakes, but disorganized and belated dogma will be deadly.
Such a sad story and all your comments at the very end about what they could have done differently were absolutely right on. Really pays to be prepared especially when you're hiking in December.
So sad. This is why you should always carry water proof over jacket and multiple ways to start a fire when going into high country no matter the time of year!
Considering it rained and snowed they wouldn’t of been able to find anything dry to burn
This makes me so sad! This could have been so easily prevented! Human beings are far more fragile than they think! RIP ladies
The forest ranger even talked to them and warned them about their lack of gear but instead of listening they went anyway, WTF???
@@markpettie681 Well remember, nature is very, VERY unforgiving. Let it be humbling reminder as you said life really is that fragile.
So sad..it actually reminds me of me and my mom. My mom used to come visit me when I was in college in Arizona. She always wanted to drive somewhere and go on these little day hikes. It just reminds me of something we could have done..cause both of us weren't very "experienced" in hiking . That story and the one about the guy who killed that mother daughter and daughters friend in Yellowstone reminds me of me and my mom and the horrific things that could have happened to us!
Thanks4sharring your stuff will look into it- we will be going to the states and now I don't want o go to ANY trails because it started to snow .
I think that you should do more video's on missing hikers to remember them and maybe we all can learn from their stories. Its sad but I believe that they would what to kept people safe even if it means learning from their mistakes.
Do you follow dave paulidas missing 411? If not, I suggest that you check him out. He's awesome
No he isn't. Don't believe his hype or buy his overpriced books. He leaves out information to make his stories more interesting. He was fired from the police force for doing illegal stuff. Please find other books and podcasts from more respectable people. Don't buy into this guy's hype.
@@brisbanite5460 are you talking about paulidas?
A rivoting story, and I am heartbroken for these women. So many questions, but you always do a great job of taking us there!
I love how you present a story or situation and then also point out how it could be avoided. Thanks.
I'm one of those people who worries about how not to make the tragic mistakes that others have made. I truly appreciate your expert advice and will make a point to share this with loved ones.
Thanks for the story...Heart wrenching for those that were involved no doubt and a tough one to swallow...I learned my lesson as a very young Tenderfoot Boy Scout who had NO business going on the 50 Miler during the peak of summer with my Troop...It was my first hike and I was ill prepared...None of the hike masters or troop leaders checked my gear...Holes in my tarp, no rain gear or really warm clothing, old tattered sleeping bag, and no foam to get me up off the ground...Heat of mid summer (Pacific Northwest in late July) and on the third night we got over 2 inches of snow...I woke up in an inch of snow melt soaked to the skin and chilled to the bone...The wilderness is unforgiving and Mother Nature can take your life in a heart beat...Sad story here, thanks for sharing...Hope people will indeed take note of how fast things can and do unravel...
I’m always prepared always start my day checking the weather
A hard story but an important one. A lesson for all. Thank you
I’ve only just discovered your channel. I’m fascinated with your content. Great job on delivery! So far, I’m enjoying it immensely. Having had a paranormal experience myself in 1978, one which still has me completely confounded and open to hearing the experiences of others. If you will kindly indulge me, I’d like to share it here. It’s been a very long time since I’ve Talked about the story because I sometimes get remarks such as: “Were you on drugs, were you hallucinating, or I think you’re just making this up.”
In 1978, I was 18 years old. I was in the best shape of my life, and I would often warm up prior to my daily jog by jumping rope right outside the barn on our fruit farm. On this particular day, it was sunny, beautiful blue skies and just a very balmy gorgeous day in Fennville, Michigan. My mother and my four sisters were shopping that day, and I didn’t want to go because I hated missing my jog. My health and well-being was just very important to me. My dad, having taken a rare day off was sitting by the window not more than seven or eight feet from where I was warming up. Now, the window was up. This is important to the story. So as usual I was jumping rope when suddenly the barn cat who had been sitting not more than a couple feet from me basking in the sun jumped straight up His back arched dramatically, howling like I’ve never heard a cat howl, ran across my feet and scrambled into the barn.
Now this took just a few seconds. I suddenly had a tremendous feeling of dread. It seeped down from my head to my feet. I stood still, the jump rope now falling down by my side and knew that there was something to my right. And I did not want to look in that direction. Also, at this point, the atmosphere had completely changed. It had taken on a very strange bluish hue, as if someone had lain a filter over the atmosphere. I took a deep breath, and I slowly turned to my right where I knew that whatever it was would be. When I Turned to my right, I saw a ship floating right above our apple trees. These Apple trees were no more than 5 feet high. This was our younger Orchard, so the trees weren’t very tall. Hovering there over the top of the first tree was the ship which was white and had billowing sails flowing. However, the ship was standing dead still. My brain was trying to process what I was seeing. It was trying to figure out what this was, what it could be, and also would make sense to me. I thought that if I turned my head back and closed my eyes, and then looked back again it would be gone. I did that. But when I looked back not only was it still there, it was now moving in a very straight line upward and toward the sun. It was moving slow and deliberately. At some point, I realized that I heard screaming, and then I realized that the screaming was from me. I was screaming for my dad who should have easily been able to hear me. I continued to watch the ship until it was so far up in the sky that I couldn’t see it anymore. I had even watched it go behind a cloud, and come out on the other side still very much on its deliberate path. Only when the ship had completely disappeared did my dad come outside because he had only just heard me at the end. I told him that I have been yelling for five minutes! He said he hadn’t heard me until just then. Not only that, but once the ship disappeared, it seemed to me that a sort of release happened. Everything went back to normal.
I suppose I will never understand what happened. But it feels good to have at least a platform in which people might not judge me. Thank you for giving the unknown and unreal voice. You have a new sub.
I listen to David Palisade can am missing 411 and many people have had similar experiences. I'm sure Dave would like to hear your story.
Hey Chris. I could see it in your eyes, and hear in your voice. This one really got to you. Sometimes it stories like this will get other people better prepared. Thank you. For the heads up.
Lmao
Great video and lessons :
Most important things in my opinion if you are forced to do emergency over night stay on a day hike :
1) Alwas inform family members or local authorities of when you leave, aproximate route and precise time you get back (this will keep up the morale in emergency knowing that you are cold, hurt or hungry, but atleast know that search and rescue are already looking for you and it is just a couple of hours)
2) Always carry extra water (in my case 1.5l) and food that is emergency only, there are even small emergency foods, I have these 6x cube shaped small emergency food thingies each 100 grams and they will definetly keep you alive 24h+
3) Simple rain gear : poncho and emergency blanket (in my case 2x poncho) and you can make shelter and sleep in them. Military tought as to carry a simple candle and you can easily burry it in ground inside your shelter and it will generate heat equal to 1 person (So if you light more then more heat :))..... make fire if you can, but sometimes everything is wet, there is no space etc.... (there are these fire starter cubes firedragon which burn for 10 min and generate a LOT of heat, they can be used to warm up boil some water.
4) Carry chemlights (simple sticks that you bend and they glow bright for 24h.... they cost 1 eur a piece and you can easily carry a lot of them..... tie one down close to your shelter (in easily visible place, peak of mountain, grass clearing etc) and if walking then on your backpack and if there is a helicopter searching, he will easily see you from couple of miles, because you are a glowing object in otherwise pitch dark forest.
5) Personal safety : knife, knife and again knife for obvious resons.... if shit goes down you will atleast go down with a fight
6) Gloves and winter beanie hat
Many more points, but these are the main.... have military mindset that nothing ever goes as planned .... and enjoy hiking, because you know that you are prepeared :)
A group of friends went on a hike and we’ve never hiked that mountain before so on our way up I started throwing pieces of a colourful plastic material I had on my backpack I was the last one of the group I didn’t want them to think I was being scared/paranoid of getting lost so the rest didn’t know about my little trace. Once at the top the terrains seemed plain and the forest was high and vast and the way down wasn’t that obvious at that moment someone recognised the fact that we were lost I told them of what I’ve done and we started looking for the trace that’s how we could find our way back. Proudest moment of my life 🫡
So tragic. Like you said, just a little more warm gear and a lighter. Sounds like things went fast once they got wet and cold, then the snow coming in. We can all take a lesson. Thanks for passing this on. Take care.
Even though it's sad, l do think it's important to learn from stories like this. As humans, we're definitely not cut out to endure the forces of nature - especially unprepared!
Sorry to hear this very sad. Chris Happy Fathers day, have fun and as always be safe.
A very valuable cautionary tale. I pray their families have received proper closure after these years.
Another thing that is so simple is you can download offline maps. Even when you don't have cell service you can look at the map and use GPS to tell you how to get out of wherever you're at. I always carry an old phone with maps downloaded on it.
I just wanna say, I love your haunted and Bigfoot stories, but I have highly appreciated your two latest stories, great info, awesome information for beginner hikers/backpackers 😀
This was definitely an unfortunate event for both mom and daughter. Thank you for the time you took to put into perspective what may have happened. I just started learning about camping and hiking in the wilderness and I definitely learned much more from what is important when doing so. I may not have known them, but what happened to them is sad.
Thank you for sharing this story in such a caring way. Bless your heart Chris!
Thanks Chris for sharing this story and it was interesting but sad bc of what happened to these women hiking but did not have everything even for one day they needed emergency supplies but was not prepared for this hike...not used to the weather in Utah from the south....very sad and pray for their families and say condolences to them for their family members died...😓😓😥😞
Sad and tragic. Thanks for giving all us reminders on being prepared. The mountains, river, lakes and woods are no joke and shouldn’t be trifled with.
Those rugged mountains don't forgive when weather moves in. One needs extensive outdoor knowledge, proper kit, clothes and in this age a pocket GPS signal device. Those ladies were caught unprepared. 😳 Very sad indeed. Cool cave 😎! Thanks for another good lesson in this story.
Thanks Chris that was a good one your really good at telling stories I could listen to you all night keep them coming and be safe out there can't wait for the next one
Thank you for sharing this story. As tragic as it is, I hope it can help at least one person avoid these mistakes. I usually have fun watching Chris' videos. This was not fun but it was necessary.
Hey! Just found your channel today! That area has had numerous disappearances. Watching from northern Utah. Happy Father’s Day everyone!
Utah looks amazing! Beautiful landscapes. I like hiking here but would love to visit your state.
From Brisbane, Australia
What area is this?
I cannot imagine how that ranger must have felt. I'm sure he wished he had been sterner in advising them. "Turn around, you're not prepared. Things can change in a moment up here." Yes, I'm sure he's replayed that day many times.
I always carry my compass and a simple fluorescent marker, I mark it heading and back heading, works all the time..
Could'ave been me. Things happen. First trip to N Carolina, my friend and I (Fl girls) explored a mountain side. Soon we were lost and amazing how dark it gets so fast. I'm blessed with an inner compass. We got out in the nick of time. This was a tragedy.
Great Story. I do SAR in Arizona. I've been involved in over 100 missions. Most people who get into trouble are day hikers. People assume because they have planned a short day hike they won't need extra gear and people like to pack as light as possible. We're all familiar with the term "pack lite, freeze at night". I tell people the moment you leave the parking lot/trailhead Mother Nature is trying to kill you. Here are a couple of small items I recommend carrying 100% of the time:
Glow Sticks-If you hunker down and go to sleep put the glow stick high in a tree or bush near you location.
Small light with a strobe. Can signal rescuers day or night with a strobe.
Space Blanket-Easy to be seen by helicopter in the day, plus can keep you warm/dry.
Fire starting supplies.
Note Pad-You can leave notes with date/time and direction of travel.
A few basic energy bars and electrolyte powder, we like Liquid IV.
Signal Mirror.
This is by no means a complete list of the 10 or 12 essentials but it's a few things to get you started. If you search my name on TH-cam you can see one of our rescues. STAY SAFE!
Thanks Juan! That's great.
Many prayers to the family of the mother and daughter.
That beer poured like used motor oil! Lol Good story with good info Chris. Scouts motto is be prepared.
God Bless them and their family. ❤️
I hiked that same loop 2 years ago, the week before Thanksgiving. I walked on 2 of the frozen lakes, and got back to the car just as the snowstorm hit with a foot that night. But I knew the forecast before I left. I was of course the only hiker back in there. Just as a side note, there have been bigfoot sightings back in there and that's why I was there.
You do a great job telling your stories and I promise I'm not being at all negative when I say this, but I really like your strange stories where the people actually survive the best. Thanks, for all your story telling though!
We lived in Utah 2-1/2 years while students at the U of Utah, had relatives that area and also in Park City. My husband followed his uncle and cousins into the high Uintahs and remembered the trails well as there were no maps where they went, 1960-1963. We took logging roads as far up as we could and then hiked to the lakes and even spent a night. We made many excursions and had no gear other than what we were wearing. Our uncle warned us of the terrain, weather changes and sent his oldest son son with provisions the next day as he was concerned. We saw the weather changes, snow in July, cougar tracks the next morning leading to the water and we kept our fire going all night. if you don't know what you are doing, be accompanied by an experienced hiker and leave exact instructions on where you will be. I am sorry these two women perished, but the mountains are harsh.
So sad. But if I know anyone going out in wilderness I will give them things like u said as it could save a life. Ty
Sometimes, gut instincts are the deciding factor. In 1984 I started fishing the north fork of the tilton in Washington state. Even though the season is 31 October I normally never fish after 1 October because the fall rains make it unwadeable, dangerously. I just came back from a contract in Saudi Arabia in 2012 and I was hell-bent to fly fish. In nearly 30 years I had never taken a backpack. But I just gotta gut feeling so I packed a first aid kit, tarp, Knorr's rice package, pan, hatchet, couple lighters for my cigs and one really oddball addition. During the year I brush my hair (52) and I clean out the brush and put the oily hair in a ziplock, the entire year. On a river where I can normally cross every 50 or 80 feet I was only able to brave the river three times in a mile. I put my pack on the bank and waded out and took a spill, a first. It's fifty degrees, very light rain, an hour of light left, took me three hours to get here, I'm soaked. Does not look good for the home team, I didn't have a lot of body fat to help keep me warm, no calories to spare. I immediately set my tarp up. Went back under a huge cedar tree where I knew there would be dry dead branches. Made a wood teepee with my ziplock bag of hair in the middle surrounded by the very smallest branches, those surrounded by bigger branches. It started pouring. That oily hair went up like gun powder, just enough to get everything lit. Cooked my rice, so some calories. Undressed and dried out my clothes. What a miserable night, raining for seven hours. Eight feet from the river uphill and woke at first light only three feet from the river. It took me over three hours crawling through brambles and downed timber and standing trees and across slick rock cliffs, could not cross anywhere. Made it out to my truck. Never again. But if you want something that lights a fire like right now, don't overlook your hair.
Great story telling. Thanks for this. I’m running the Wasatch 100 ultramarathon in September and so this is highly instructive and definitely gives me pause as I prepare for my adventure. I also got lost when I was 18 years old in Colorado on a short hike that almost made a huge turn for the worst. Thankfully I found my way back….the mountains are unforgiving…but such a treasure. My condolences to this pair’s family.
Great story and is full of lessons learned to be gleaned. I have a habit of hiking alone in the same mountains. I just realize that I rarely take my gortex jacket and pants. Last year I purchased a garmin inreach, i already carry quite a bit of survival gear but now my gortex is going in my ruck. I'll be in the same area this August-Sept. I'll keep this one in mind. Mahalo for sharing
One more thing, about 3 years ago I was hiking in this area and I tend to carry a lot of gear even on dayhikes. I had an individual stop and ask why I had so much, about 20 to 23lbs. I really didn't know how to explain it to him but now I do.
It’s never a bad idea to learn orienteering even though electronics can do all that for us now. It’s always nice to know how to do things when electronics fail
Thanks for telling us this sad story Chris. PLEASE keep making these videos. I look forward to them so much and always try a new beer every time I watch them. God Bless!
Thank you, I will
I never understand why people keep going, Because when the further you go the wrong direction, the further it takes to go back. I learned my lesson when I was 10 with a Girl Scout hike. The leaders disagreed and I went the long way (peer pressure). Now I live in the PNW and I never do a lot of things! Maybe if people followed the “NEVER” rules, they’d be safer. NEVER go alone, without extra food and water, compass, itinerary, waterproof gear, warm clothing, hat and gloves, etc. A simple day hike even in the summer the weather can quickly change in the woods.
Poor women! Thanx for the good tips ✔️
Public service. When I moved to Arizona in the 80s they had warnings on tv like you do. As a Minnesota born person I appreciated all of the info I could get. Thank you.
I remember hiking out of Christmas Meadows after a two night excursion in...it was hot and sunny....I was hot....we were about a mile or two from the car and suddenly the weather changed on a dime. It started sleeting. I was shivering uncontrollably as I struggled to get my pack off and get to my wet weather gear. I'll never forget it.....I plan for every weather contingency in the Uintas.
Tragic story. Prayers for the Family. Happens often in remote wilderness country. 4 years ago We had a hiker out for a 8 mile day hike a few miles from where we live die from exposure. Early October snow hit 2 feet fell overnight. They found his remains the following May. Being equipped to make a fire is vital when hiking in high elevation in Fall. Nice work👍 It Looks like your doing this Video in Nor-Cal Butte/Lassen County foothills or up near Alturas Modoc country.
Excellent briefing! Outstanding lessons learned! Awesome advice! At times I think we all tend to suffer from a false sense of security. Just because we’re in a State Park or a National Park does not guarantee it’s safe to be in there. Even a short 1-2 mile walk in the Green-Belt behind your home may become uncomfortable at least (dehydration) or tragic at worst (a fall), etc. Even your family dog can fall victim to a heat related injury during the hot summer months. These naturally majestic, beautiful places have a way of luring us in and farther than you may be physically capable of handling. Very intelligent people get easily ‘turned-around’ and lost out there. I’ve witnessed it first hand. That’s all natural challenges. Don’t let your enthusiasm exceed your talent. Another big threat is predators. Whether they’re malevolent humans or hungry wildlife. You’ve got to protect yourself anywhere you go. Caution.
Thank you for telling this story!
I know that trail head well. There is a point in the trail where it disappears because the trail goes up some rocks. Lots of people keep going straight, instead of hanging a left and climbing the rocks. All the "mistakes", have worn what looks like the trail. It goes off into the trees for 20 yards, and then ends abruptly. Once lost, they wandered around looking for the trail. Big mistake, they should have back tracked immediately to the known trail the instant they were uncertain of the trail. People consistently underestimate the High Uintas. It can get down below freezing at night in mid July. If you are a rookie, go to Lake Tahoe, or Yellowstone, and stay out of the high country wilderness, until you have the skills, and gear necessary to survive. Wanna be's treat it like they are going to the park...dumb.
Turn around and take photos as you walk with a arm pointing which direction you came from periodically....then follows the pointed hand back.
May this mother and daughter rest in peace 🕊️.
Those caves would make an excellent overnight shelter. They remind me of the wind caves in Southern CA where our Wilderness Basics class did a backpack and campout. The caves were from millions of years old rock and shell formations from when the area was undersea, and over the course of millions of years in time, the wind formed the caves. Fascinating!
I was glad to hear at least the two ladies had some emergency supplies, including a first aid kit and emergency blanket.
It was tragic. A lesson to all of us. Be prepared.
Very good reporting, taking it from someone who lives in Utah and has traveled some in the Uintas and seen Mt. Watson, etc., it's almost as if you've been there so I can tell you're a thorough researcher. Thanks for the cautionary account. I will add one point though and I did not realize this until recently. If you look on a map you can see an uplift from about Vernal, UT that stretches out past the Dinosaur Natn'l. Monument into Colorado. That whole half of mountainous region is also known as the Uintas, just not the High Uintas. So, the High Uintas are the western half of the range and the eastern half are actually geologically considered to be the Uintas as well.
Definitely unfortunate misadventure. Excellent tips to prevent this same incident!
this is such a sad story. You certainly were very good in handeling the story with compassion and also giving info on what to take , such as extra food and clothhing.. sorry fot their family.🌹🌹
I'm so sorry for your loss God-bless them women
These were no small mistakes. This was a series of HUGE mistakes that resulted in their lives being lost.
When "nice weather" is 50 degrees in day time........ How can one not assume a rainfall and a normal evening and night time freeze...... and everything and everyone is frozen......
@@sasquatchrosefarts the sad thing is the weather in uintahas is actually a drastic change in weather from Park City & salt lake. So I can see if the weather called for 50° and slight change could be a drastic change depending on the portion of the Uintah range
I've lived in Utah for years now. I worked in remote locations...I learned to always keep arctic gear in my car. No matter what day it is. And a propane grill, a case of chili, a sleeping bag and a fishing pole, etcetera.The wilderness here is nothing to joke about. It will get you
My heart goes out to the family…I cannot imagine how many times they second guessed themselves. Even when I’m on vacation, I call home, to check in or whatever, almost daily.
It’s so easy to say “what we would do”, as we sit comfortably on our opinion holes, from the safety & warmth of our blankets while sippn hot cocoa (tea/coffee what have you)
Just the mere attempt at putting myself, as well as my adult daughter, in their shoes-brings forth a truly horrifying mindset of how their final moments might have felt and I can’t help but sob for the lives they won’t live…as well as for those who must live on, w out their love.
Always make a plan to check in with family or friends, every other day, if not every day. Always have a clear, concise hiking plan/route, and do not deviate from it. If spending time outdoors: hiking, hunting, camping - do yourself, your family & friends one tiny favor that could prove huge later-buy AND USE, a personal locator beacon. At. All. Times.
God speed
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your absolutely right...
😢💞🙏💞 You did a wonderful job telling a hard story, and also showing us how easily this could happen if you're not adequately prepared. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much! hard story.
One thing I have learned from watching another channel (CanAm missing 411) when out in the wilderness always have a personal locator beacon with you. My life is definitely worth the $250 ish price-tag.
Man me and my wife love all your videos! You do a great job. If we ever meet up I'll buy the beer! My wife loves all the Sierra Nevada footage. Thank You and be safe!