Who could explain all those areas of change with precise details. Not many that would relate to the Viewer as Larko does. Great to hear your unbiased take.
I never thought that the harshness of the cockpit was to aggrivate the drivers by design. I thought it was to save weight and have the necessities. Plus, I haven't heard of a series swtiching the buttons around just to make it more difficult, too. F1, Indy, and GT have similar controls just by natural selection of design. I think this is fishy, considering the vision issue is just as valid a criticism to the road version of the Camaro. How can you see in that thing?
It's not too aggravate drivers by design. It's to make driver ability more important, and reduce the difference between the enginners. The wheels haven't been changed to make it more difficult, they've been changed to make it cheaper for teams build the cars.
The only important design for a cockpit should be safety #1 and driver comfort #2 They've failed at #2 and it's too early to tell on safety.....I could say cooking drivers and having them so hot is not safe
@@markwhit Some teams failed at number 2. They adopted a new tech that doesn't work as well as the existing one. Those that engineered it well had no issues.
It the forces the driver to drive the car with compromised settings, meaning it’s more about the driver and less about the car apparently. I liked watching the drivers (like SVG) change these sorts of things but whatever.
A general theme of a lot of Gen 3 is to make performance less about the car, and more about the driver. While also taking some of the cost out of the category. More control parts in the engine, chassis, suspension, etc mean less things for the engineers to play with and spend money on trying to get a "perfect" car. So, I'd imagine the idea was to take cockpit adjustable bars away (I'm sure they're still there, and probably still adjustable, just between sessions, not between corners) and make the car setup setup imperfect (for at least part of the stint). Then make the drivers drive around it, let them do some of that "magic driver stuff" as Larko would call it. We might also see some teams optimise balance for full tanks, and hope to get a gap and defend it later, vs another team that set their bars so the car would come on later in the stint. Different cars at different speeds at the same time should improve the show for the punter.
Do you know what's different,I don't know between a Ford and a Holden at the moment,stuff the supercars at the moment,stuff Holden and Ford cars this year
How come Larko’s allowed to say this difficulties with the new cars when SVG isn’t? And Larkings hardly fits in the cockpit! How can a larger/taller driver fit?
To be honest why didn’t Supercars just change to a gt platform like everywhere else in the world, new cars seem horrible for the drivers compared to the previous gen
I understand the reasons for the changes and the look of the new cars, but I don't agreed that they are better looking then the old ones. V8 SC's had a unique look in world racing, now they just look like many other series. And from the comments I've seen this week, it seems the drivers are also not big fans of the new cars.
@@zeekot4064 i mean with the holden ZB1 and mustangs you still say the differences, rear and front lights where different, with Falcons and Holdens Zb1 it was more subtle, i thought the Falcon was a ZB1 tbh
No wonder some drivers aren't happy, a coffin would be more spacious! Heat soak would be atrocious. And ventilation looks next to nothing! Good way to stuff it up supercars
Drivers air supply is chilled and piped into the helmet. They have also been wearing cool suits for a while now as well. I understand the concern, but driver safety is always in mind when designing these things. Safety includes disability from many sources, including how likely a driver is to become impaired from heat.
Do not sit in a Camaro with Dry Ice in the wrong side. Larko could get sacked again. Disqualified from service due to a minor error in words or techincality. When another team breaches the rules for something minor, make sure the team is eliminated from competition for the rest of the season.
Bathurst (our greatest race) is going to be a flop. These GEN3 cars are torture chambers and trying to do a double stint will be dangerous for all drivers
GEN3 is the biggest failure in Supercars history! They don't work, are not practical. They are too tight inside and the repairability is too slow. Courtney 50kph impact and it couldn't be fixed!
@@Ryzza5 it wasnt because of the spares, upon reading an article from Supercars the new front clip just wouldn't line up. It had bent more than expected and they needed to remove the engine that is now bolted to the firewall to see where the bend is and work out why it wouldn't fit. Many people are now calling out Supercars on the repairability of this new car
I don't know which hand was in which pocket, but this has ruined V8 Supercars. Our cars were known for being different, and now they are just American muscle rip-offs. And now removing driver aids is just making them easier to drive. We don't want easy to drive American muscle.
Those things removed weren't driver aids. They were setup adjustments that were overcomplicating something that didn't need to be. The focus has been shifted back to driver input rather than technicalities, which in theory should have a positive impact on the racing. The average punter on the hill doesn't care what in-car adjustments can be made, they just want to see racing. Not to mention these things added cost.
@@StuartVaughan47 The drivers care, hence so do the fans. And neither wanted the changes because they didn't see them as over-complicated, they saw them as useful tools. ARB adjustors were aids, because they aided the driver in balancing the car mid-race. But it's not our call. It should be the DRIVERS call. And they weren't listened to at all.
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Gonna miss Shane going nuts on the roll bars and the brake bias.
Politics aside I love Larkos explaination videos. Always makes it clear, clean and easy to understand
Thanks for the tour and info Larko, very interesting...
Just want to check to be sure that when Larko says that “the cockpit is tight” that isn’t some sort of Aussie double entendre.
Lol good call, you're onto us
"That's what she said" :)
Nah yeah nah she is tight tho
we need ARB and Bias levers back
Supercars Australia Championship Good Job To You All.
Supercars: " Tell us we f'd up designing these ' Gen 3 'cars without telling us we f'd up ". Larko " hold my beer... "
Who could explain all those areas of change with precise details. Not many that would relate to the
Viewer as Larko does. Great to hear your unbiased take.
Hi I love Supercars and the weekend was awesome I hope this will be a way better season this year
I never thought that the harshness of the cockpit was to aggrivate the drivers by design. I thought it was to save weight and have the necessities. Plus, I haven't heard of a series swtiching the buttons around just to make it more difficult, too. F1, Indy, and GT have similar controls just by natural selection of design.
I think this is fishy, considering the vision issue is just as valid a criticism to the road version of the Camaro. How can you see in that thing?
It's not too aggravate drivers by design. It's to make driver ability more important, and reduce the difference between the enginners. The wheels haven't been changed to make it more difficult, they've been changed to make it cheaper for teams build the cars.
The only important design for a cockpit should be safety #1 and driver comfort #2
They've failed at #2 and it's too early to tell on safety.....I could say cooking drivers and having them so hot is not safe
@@markwhit Some teams failed at number 2. They adopted a new tech that doesn't work as well as the existing one. Those that engineered it well had no issues.
Got a very strong feeling Shane will leave at the end of the Supercars season. Gonna miss him a lot 😢
hes just too good
He’s been the best out there for 3 years now. You tend to get bored so it wouldn’t surprise me
lol his last line😂
"Outstanding just what we want" lmao changes are good and bad I feel for those drivers
SVG entered the chat...
Nice Video 😍😍😍❤️😍
We need one at the next 24 hours of leman, for garage 56
No es una posición de conducción para claustrofóbicos 😂!! 👍👍🇪🇦🇦🇷
What was the actual logic behind removing the anti-roll bars from the car?
It the forces the driver to drive the car with compromised settings, meaning it’s more about the driver and less about the car apparently. I liked watching the drivers (like SVG) change these sorts of things but whatever.
A general theme of a lot of Gen 3 is to make performance less about the car, and more about the driver. While also taking some of the cost out of the category. More control parts in the engine, chassis, suspension, etc mean less things for the engineers to play with and spend money on trying to get a "perfect" car. So, I'd imagine the idea was to take cockpit adjustable bars away (I'm sure they're still there, and probably still adjustable, just between sessions, not between corners) and make the car setup setup imperfect (for at least part of the stint). Then make the drivers drive around it, let them do some of that "magic driver stuff" as Larko would call it. We might also see some teams optimise balance for full tanks, and hope to get a gap and defend it later, vs another team that set their bars so the car would come on later in the stint. Different cars at different speeds at the same time should improve the show for the punter.
They still have the ARBs they're just not in-car adjustable anymore.
So they have to be setup with the car, or changed during a pit stop.
A lot to learn about the new car
I miss the old cars :(
Do you know what's different,I don't know between a Ford and a Holden at the moment,stuff the supercars at the moment,stuff Holden and Ford cars this year
Since when did V8 supercars have push to pass???
I think he was just using it for context.
Ive heard drivers call the headlight flasher button in other series push to pass so maybe thats what he meant to idk lol.
I know they were considering it for Gen-3, but I thought they decided against it?
How come Larko’s allowed to say this difficulties with the new cars when SVG isn’t? And Larkings hardly fits in the cockpit! How can a larger/taller driver fit?
How on earth would an American fit in those American cars?
To be honest why didn’t Supercars just change to a gt platform like everywhere else in the world, new cars seem horrible for the drivers compared to the previous gen
I understand the reasons for the changes and the look of the new cars, but I don't agreed that they are better looking then the old ones. V8 SC's had a unique look in world racing, now they just look like many other series. And from the comments I've seen this week, it seems the drivers are also not big fans of the new cars.
You like all the cars to look the same ? At least now you can tell the difference between the two
@@zeekot4064 i mean with the holden ZB1 and mustangs you still say the differences, rear and front lights where different, with Falcons and Holdens Zb1 it was more subtle, i thought the Falcon was a ZB1 tbh
V8's have a push to pass button??
No... idk what he was talking about.
No wonder some drivers aren't happy, a coffin would be more spacious! Heat soak would be atrocious. And ventilation looks next to nothing! Good way to stuff it up supercars
Wouldn't you think in this day and age they could cool the cockpit, even run air con give them an extra 20kw to make up for it
Drivers air supply is chilled and piped into the helmet. They have also been wearing cool suits for a while now as well.
I understand the concern, but driver safety is always in mind when designing these things. Safety includes disability from many sources, including how likely a driver is to become impaired from heat.
Nascar set up
It's different alright wtf
Hot hard work new year new changlle
Do not sit in a Camaro with Dry Ice in the wrong side. Larko could get sacked again. Disqualified from service due to a minor error in words or techincality.
When another team breaches the rules for something minor, make sure the team is eliminated from competition for the rest of the season.
Bathurst (our greatest race) is going to be a flop. These GEN3 cars are torture chambers and trying to do a double stint will be dangerous for all drivers
On the flip side it means the co-driver stints become more important than ever, rather than just 54 laps of inconvenience to the teams.
Never watching super cars again 👎👎
When’s the Enforcer and the dude airing so we get the truth, not some fairy land where Supercars produce perfection..
Russell come out and supported SVG stance of no commenting after the race and said the way he has been treated by the commentary team are disgusting
Presumably the dude didn't fit inside the car 🙈
@@Ryzza5 I wouldn't fit either. If you take a look at Brodie Kostecki, he lost about 20-30kg in the off season to fit in the car
big cars they are! mean cars they are. Then I hear no arb levers and no push to pass is here. me no likey.
Something tells me this was filmed before SVGs and others comments.. "That's just what we want" aged very poorly..
GEN3 is the biggest failure in Supercars history! They don't work, are not practical. They are too tight inside and the repairability is too slow. Courtney 50kph impact and it couldn't be fixed!
Is that just because it's race 1 and teams haven't built up a large enough supply of spares yet?
@@Ryzza5 it wasnt because of the spares, upon reading an article from Supercars the new front clip just wouldn't line up. It had bent more than expected and they needed to remove the engine that is now bolted to the firewall to see where the bend is and work out why it wouldn't fit. Many people are now calling out Supercars on the repairability of this new car
Meh, just bring back group racing.
I don't know which hand was in which pocket, but this has ruined V8 Supercars.
Our cars were known for being different, and now they are just American muscle rip-offs.
And now removing driver aids is just making them easier to drive.
We don't want easy to drive American muscle.
Those things removed weren't driver aids. They were setup adjustments that were overcomplicating something that didn't need to be.
The focus has been shifted back to driver input rather than technicalities, which in theory should have a positive impact on the racing. The average punter on the hill doesn't care what in-car adjustments can be made, they just want to see racing. Not to mention these things added cost.
@@StuartVaughan47 The drivers care, hence so do the fans. And neither wanted the changes because they didn't see them as over-complicated, they saw them as useful tools.
ARB adjustors were aids, because they aided the driver in balancing the car mid-race.
But it's not our call. It should be the DRIVERS call. And they weren't listened to at all.
Yank tanks.....send them to Ukraine.
No.