The stock Ludwig wires were great. The 30 strand needed a lower tuning. The vintage wires were not chromed so that was unfair. A chromed set of Canopus vintage wires would have won the contest. The non-coated Canopus wires are for wood drums. Also, the chrome Canopus wires are popular with wood drums to because they brighten it up. Still, a nice video. Thanks!
I've owned the plated Canopus Backbeats for a few months now and they're hands-down my favorite wires. They're way brighter than the Puresound Custom Pros I used to use and they help the snare really cut through the mix. My Acrolite sings! Update: I recently picked up the plated vintage wires and I prefer their sound now. They work great for any style.
The Ludwig wires were my fav. They have a nice depth and fast response that goes well with that particular drum. For me the backbeats are a bit drier and the initial snare response sounds like it's slapping against the snarehead. The vintage wires are in the middle. Overall I think it depends on the drum... choose what sound YOU like!
3:18 Ludwig 3:48 Canopus Backbeat 4:19 Canopus Vintage To my ears, the vintage is pretty much like setting the snare bed with less tension, although I kinda like the "busy" sound. To me the Backbeat could wear the name Jazz/Fusion as I enjoy hearing that instant respons from it.
I've experimented with a few wire types, I need to say the vintage dry I use on my old radio king and 60s slingy (also solid shell), sound way better to me than how that particular wire sounds on this demo.
In my experience, The biggest difference in snare wires is not the wire material, but the endplates and how far off of the head the wires sit . The cheap ( Made in Taiwan) chrome 20 strands sit too close to the reso and can choke it (BUT THIS SOUNDS GREAT ON SOME SNARES) ... The further off of the head, The more open and resonate. The closer the wires are to the head, The crispier or 'more focused'it sounds. I keep 10 extra snare sets around. It's good to experiment.. Great video thanks!
Man I'm really struggling to hear any meaningful difference there. I almost think the stock wires might sound best to me. Certainly not a difference that anyone would ever pick up on in a live setting playing with your band... or hear through a mix on a recording. Can't for the life of me see why I should pay a premium for Canopus. Seems like a far more significant variable in your sound is how your snare wires are adjusted... and your heads for that matter.
You're using the wrong type of snare wire for this type of drum. For this and all metal drums, you want the PLATED snare wire, not the NON-PLATED which is the formula for wood drums.
Each drum sounded so closely to each other to me (listening on my phone) that the video wasn't useful. I do know from experience tho that some wires will indeed give you better results than others. I love the PureSound Twisted models for my brass 13" Black Panther. Came here because I am searching for exact model number for the original 20 strand wires for a 1980-1982 model Ludwig Acrolite and decided to land on this video.
I would agree. More diversity in wire tension may have brought out more of the differences that I know exist due to my own experimentation with these wires. Good vid though!!!
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The stock Ludwig wires were great. The 30 strand needed a lower tuning. The vintage wires were not chromed so that was unfair. A chromed set of Canopus vintage wires would have won the contest. The non-coated Canopus wires are for wood drums. Also, the chrome Canopus wires are popular with wood drums to because they brighten it up. Still, a nice video. Thanks!
I've owned the plated Canopus Backbeats for a few months now and they're hands-down my favorite wires. They're way brighter than the Puresound Custom Pros I used to use and they help the snare really cut through the mix. My Acrolite sings!
Update: I recently picked up the plated vintage wires and I prefer their sound now. They work great for any style.
The differences are so subtle, I would conjecture only experienced drummers would notice any difference in a live performance setting.
The Ludwig wires were my fav. They have a nice depth and fast response that goes well with that particular drum. For me the backbeats are a bit drier and the initial snare response sounds like it's slapping against the snarehead. The vintage wires are in the middle. Overall I think it depends on the drum... choose what sound YOU like!
3:18 Ludwig
3:48 Canopus Backbeat
4:19 Canopus Vintage
To my ears, the vintage is pretty much like setting the snare bed with less tension, although I kinda like the "busy" sound. To me the Backbeat could wear the name Jazz/Fusion as I enjoy hearing that instant respons from it.
I've experimented with a few wire types, I need to say the vintage dry I use on my old radio king and 60s slingy (also solid shell), sound way better to me than how that particular wire sounds on this demo.
In my experience, The biggest difference in snare wires is not the wire material, but the endplates and how far off of the head the wires sit . The cheap ( Made in Taiwan) chrome 20 strands sit too close to the reso and can choke it (BUT THIS SOUNDS GREAT ON SOME SNARES) ... The further off of the head, The more open and resonate. The closer the wires are to the head, The crispier or 'more focused'it sounds. I keep 10 extra snare sets around. It's good to experiment.. Great video thanks!
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A three are good quality wires just depends on what you like and the sound you after. Thx for the demo.
I like them all but I might try the Canopus vintage wires they really do sound 70’s.
Great video! Thanks for posting.
Great video
I didn't hear a significant difference, and even if there was, it's going to be lost in the mix anyway.
Man I'm really struggling to hear any meaningful difference there. I almost think the stock wires might sound best to me. Certainly not a difference that anyone would ever pick up on in a live setting playing with your band... or hear through a mix on a recording. Can't for the life of me see why I should pay a premium for Canopus. Seems like a far more significant variable in your sound is how your snare wires are adjusted... and your heads for that matter.
Do you have the 14 inch vintage canopus wires in stock.? If so how much are they? Would like to purchase .
What if I take it off the snare wires is that ok
You're using the wrong type of snare wire for this type of drum. For this and all metal drums, you want the PLATED snare wire, not the NON-PLATED which is the formula for wood drums.
Stock 100% No reason to go elsewhere.
On a black beauty, yes.
the head change makes more of a difference more than the initial wire change those ludwig med heads are cool but funky :/
Each drum sounded so closely to each other to me (listening on my phone) that the video wasn't useful. I do know from experience tho that some wires will indeed give you better results than others. I love the PureSound Twisted models for my brass 13" Black Panther. Came here because I am searching for exact model number for the original 20 strand wires for a 1980-1982 model Ludwig Acrolite and decided to land on this video.
Stock Ludwig wins on this round. I'll stick with puresound custom pro myself.
I think for my application, the backbeats are right but I thought all three sounded good and had their own voice.
Five minutes for a two-minute presentation? Tighten up!
The Ludwig wires weren't beaten on this occasion (pardon the pun)
The tension on the wires was so tight it was hard to hear the differences. Choked sounding.
I would agree. More diversity in wire tension may have brought out more of the differences that I know exist due to my own experimentation with these wires. Good vid though!!!
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