Studio One vs Ableton Live: Which DAW is best for YOU?

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  • Studio One 6 and Ableton Live 11 are both POWERFUL DAWs so we decided to put both of them head to head to see who came out on top!
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  • @ProducingInTheBox
    @ProducingInTheBox  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @TheVelvetYear
    @TheVelvetYear ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Had so much fun making this video! thanks for having me dude!

  • @FurkanTopal
    @FurkanTopal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You can do everything in Ableton what you have done in Studio One. Drag and drops, saving clips etc, it's even possible to convey something from your previous projects with its all fx chain. And as for the mixing section, you're able to do that without dealing with popping up windows (that's what had made me switch to Ableton from FL)

  • @pericvlor
    @pericvlor ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You can actually get shorter notes in studio one, if you are using the pattern mode. It has a repeat feature, which let's you create trap hats and similar things very easily. Plus the pattern mode has some other useful features for beatmaking

  • @nico-zh4eo
    @nico-zh4eo ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This vid makes me love more my studio one 😍

  • @LongpigandtheFemcans
    @LongpigandtheFemcans ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Never Used Ableton but I LOVE LOVE LOVE S1 I use it every day!!! I subbed by the way! Im always mining for mixing tips I cant get enough!

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you’ve come to the right place! Welcome 😎🤌

  • @ROBBIEP
    @ROBBIEP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    clever video concept. what you both wish was different in your preferred daw and then see what, if any cross over exists

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a blast to make, and Seth is an Ableton Live genius

  • @kiillabytez
    @kiillabytez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like grouping channels and making a global FX chain for those tracks. For instance, if I need an EQ across all my tracks, like using a high-pass filter on everything not bass related, to make room for the bass. Super quick and easy, plus it saves a lot of CPU compared to dropping an EQ on each track that needs it.

  • @3xAudio
    @3xAudio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love ableton i dont think ill ever change anymore. occasionally use logic for Video sync

  • @darakhanstudio
    @darakhanstudio ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love Studio One 6

  • @sandrvoxon
    @sandrvoxon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everything what was about studio one it have in ableton ! Everything ! Even drag and drop !

  • @atibakojo3478
    @atibakojo3478 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mixer or lack of one same thing with FL studio is why I went with cubase. But I like the rack aspect of Abbelton I am going to retry Abbelton. Use it for creating some parts but final arrangements and mixing in Cubase. Cubase mixer is the best to me. Its the view I have up the most and its set up like a real analog mixer. Reaper has good mixer to. But Cubase was less work to set up and learn.

  • @johnsnyder4949
    @johnsnyder4949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i noticed exactly what your talking about with third party plugins. my machine isnt the greatest but it isnt a slouch either and ive noticed like the kit plugins really hit the cpu when u stack them up. the motown eq is unuseable so far. but if you can believe pro tools is way better at this. maybe the aax format has something to do with it but i was hoping presonus would do more about this for version 6 but they didnt seem too

  • @johnhill762
    @johnhill762 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I really like Seth’s Ableton pros. Definitely useful features.

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely!

    • @ACABSTUDIOS
      @ACABSTUDIOS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He doesn't even use ableton for what it's made for though, so it's kind of a dishonest review that doesn't really begin to scrape the surface of ableton's features

  • @Weekendwarriorsyndrome
    @Weekendwarriorsyndrome ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have both Daws and have used them for years. Studio One suits me better. I use Ableton to do jam sessions with Push. If an idea for a track comes out of it, I'll finish it in Studio One.

  • @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579
    @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have both of the free versions of Ableton Live (Lite) and Studio One 6 (Artist), which I activated when I bought their respective manufacturer's USB interfaces.
    I couldn't get anywhere on Ableton Live, however I'm mixing my Livestream audio very effectively on S1 with both stock and 3rd party plug-ins. Not bashing Ableton, just that Studio One is working well for me and for my current use needs.

    • @w1z4rd9
      @w1z4rd9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you think the difference will be on UI/UX especially for beginners?

  • @maxxyporky
    @maxxyporky ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video

  • @beat942
    @beat942 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you can actually assign melodyne as sample editor so you dont have to wait for audio to transfer though it makes it little difficult to check vocal in context of backing track

    • @randomadamam
      @randomadamam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which daw

    • @CrimsonChannel7
      @CrimsonChannel7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@randomadamamStudio One

  • @rajakhan2668
    @rajakhan2668 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The best Part of Studio one is
    Macros
    Solid workflow
    Pipeline
    Chord, arrangement and video track
    Only daw which provides show page nd mastering page
    Something i really need in studio one is
    Modulation!

    • @partlysimpson5154
      @partlysimpson5154 ปีที่แล้ว

      Modulate syths, how much comples do you want to get?

  • @Anlonnmusic
    @Anlonnmusic 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I used ableton & studio one but I like more logic, because of it's simplicity.
    Ableton is best for audio editing,
    logic best for fast workflow,
    while studio one handles audio very well!

  • @toddwmac
    @toddwmac ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the vid as it is always good to hear from people that are using these tools professionally. The timing is great as I'm just now debating a Sphere commitment along with V6. As a long time S1 user (since v2) I love S1 but appreciate Ableton's strengths (that I'm just learning). As a creator, I was a let down with v6 as I hoped it would add to the creation side. They seem to be moving more and more towards the studio engineer (their bread and butter as a company) and away from the creator (no innovative new instruments, effects, sequencing tools). I'm just hoping the Fender acquisition dies not accelerate this movement away from the creator. At the end of the day, no tool does everything for everyone, so I suspect S1 will live along side tools like Ableton and others that cater a bit more to the creator. Thanks again. subbed

    • @musician1971a
      @musician1971a ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know what will be in the future, but updates and upgrades usually have a theme. There were updates that added Note FX, or a pattern editor, or other creative features. There's never a tendency in the bigger picture toward a certain group of musicians. This time the score composers were catered for, as well as mix engineers, but also performers, it's a first version after all, but during this version 6 cycle you may see features that are more in your field.

    • @nads5907
      @nads5907 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm also "hoping that the Fender acquisition dies".

  • @mixprofmix
    @mixprofmix ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What I would love to see inside S1 the most are, Stock Auto Tune plugin, pitch shifter plugin, soft clipper plugin, spectral editing, ARA 2 on the Project Page. But so far S1 is great for anything. I just want my DAW be stocked up with dope features that way I won't be reaching out to third parties.

    • @jux2010
      @jux2010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bitcrusher and the limiter allows soft clipping….sounds very good but I get what you mean a dedicated soft clipper

    • @ioriyagami9231
      @ioriyagami9231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ableton sucks at film scoring and mixing

  • @playlistscroller
    @playlistscroller ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For me the killer difference is Studio One having a piano roll that can be maximized. I'm a keyboard player. In Ableton when I record MIDI of chords and a melody simultaneously the notes look microscopic in the bottom piano roll and if I zoom in I loose track of the time placement of the different events. However if you need to jam with loops, well, Ableton is better, no question.

    • @FurkanTopal
      @FurkanTopal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ALT + mouse scroll to give height to your notes
      CTRL + mouse scroll to give width to your notes
      ALT + CTRL to move inside the piano roll
      and most importantly,
      there's a line between piano roll and arrangement view, hover over w your mouse, click, hold and drag to the up and then you'll have a full screen piano roll in Ableton, buddy.

  • @lawrenceboardjr.8509
    @lawrenceboardjr.8509 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need studio one impact xl to play samples thru like simpler. That’s one of my main reasons for using ableton.

  • @WutrUduin
    @WutrUduin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I scrolled through the comments and I didn't see anyone mention that when you hover over a send knob, the info bar at the bottom left shows the name of the return track. Stop counting.

  • @ProducingInTheBox
    @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What was your favorite feature from either DAW?!

    • @ROSACEPONY
      @ROSACEPONY ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I pray for Studio One to add FX rack like in Live, this is really missing

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ROSACEPONY Its presets are like effect chains.

    • @ROSACEPONY
      @ROSACEPONY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WarrenPostma Yes it is, but sadly it allows only one preset at a time, by FX rack what i mean is more like a container where you can save for example a compressor and a reverb, then have another container with a distortion for example, and you would be able to load both container in a chain so you would get your compressor reverb and distortion. Ableton have that and it's very useful

    • @kiillabytez
      @kiillabytez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ROSACEPONY
      Ummm...., it's called an FX bus, but being that Live doesn't have a mixer, you probably don't know what I'm talking about. Google is your friend.

    • @JohannesNielsen
      @JohannesNielsen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Live looping in Ableton. I have Reaper as well as BitWig Studio 5. No interest whatsoever in Studio one

  • @skk6811
    @skk6811 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved the video. I'm a heavy Studio One, Live and Pro Tools user, switching between those for different stages of the production. I mainly mix and master in Studio One, Record / Edit in PT, Do production stuff in Ableton Live. I really wanted to make S1 my main DAW for everything (it has the potential for it) but it lacks a lot of things. First of all: You cannot adjust automatic fade lengths, which makes it nearly impossible to edit drums, even though, you can do Beat Detective-like editing in S1. I find it very frustrating to not being able to freeze plugins up to an insert like in Pro Tools. The automatic plugin latency compensation is very bad. When you stress your system, you can literally hear channels being processed and played back many ms-s away from each other. Also grouping tracks is a nightmare. You cannot make the global functions default (like you only want to group the record arm and editing, not the faders etc... ), you have to do it separately on every group. When you've made a group, you can't add or remove tracks from the group. Yeah S1 is going to the good direction, but still needs some development under the hood.
    Ableton Live needs to make no warp option selected default for recorded tracks, has to integrate ARA2 asap, need a vertical waveform zoom, and proper grouping function, because linking tracks just won't make it to editing a 16 channel drum recording. I know it's a software made for live sound and not for studio work, but since they're trying so hard to make it a full production suite, they better start developing features in it that pro tools had for more than 15 years as an industry standard recording software.
    In terms of CPU usage of third party plugins, I've made a stress test on different DAWs (fabfilter, waves and slate plugins with heavy usecases) just to see, how many tracks each DAW can handle without dropouts on my M2 MacBook Pro. Just for relative CPU loads: Reaper was able to handle 146 tracks, next is Ableton Live with 94 tracks, Than Studio One with 90 tracks, than supprisingly Logic Pro with 80 tracks.

    • @TheVidman5
      @TheVidman5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very good points here! Were the plugins running under Rosetta or Arm native?

    • @skk6811
      @skk6811 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheVidman5 They were all running on ARM native. That's why I didn't make the test with PT, since it's not ARM native yet (even after 2 years). I think those stats will be improving soon, plugin companies are trying hard to optimise their native ARM codes even more, and FabFilter is doing a really good job with their latest updates on Apple Silicon.

    • @hirokomlm131
      @hirokomlm131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never would've guessed that in 2023 we'd still be talking about these type of issues with DAWs.
      I'm glad you mentioned the processing delay with Studio because I just started the 30 trial yesterday, and I'm already getting weird delays with only one or two tracks open.

    • @skk6811
      @skk6811 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hirokomlm131 In my opinion Studio One will one day rule all DAWs because it is the closest thing ever to a full production suite. If they fix the performance issues and listen to the feature requests adding them to the next update immediately, fixing some annoying workflow issues, in 1 or 2 years, it will be everywhere. Until then, we're stuck with Pro Tools, Ableton, or for the patient ones, customise reaper for a specific workflow until it's usable and makes sense. I've tried this last option, but costed me 2 weeks to get is even to work the way I wanted and I was still far away from a perfect workflow. Studio One on the other hand had an almost perfect workflow, but nearly no option for customisation, especially for those little things that bugs me the most:
      1: Why can't they make the file browser preview play the samples automatically? If it's open, why do the arrow keys switch to the edit page, when reaching the top / bottom of the library? Why can't you assign a shortcut to them to do anything? I find drag and drop very useful, but shortcuts are definitely the way to go, if you're on a deadline.
      2: Why can't you assign the same key to do different things according to the active window?
      3: It's nice that they made it possible to search for a plugin after you pressed the add insert button on a track, but how easy would it be to just search for a plugin, press enter and the plugin is on the selected track?
      Studio One really has to learn a lot from Live, I see top producers using it way more than it is intended for. Only because of workflow and speed.

  • @samnene
    @samnene ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish Ableton can assign different recording device and playback device like in Studio One.
    I’m pretty sure you can do this with the input and output config but Studio One just does it better

  • @space_x228
    @space_x228 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dolby is in studio one now 😉

  • @mikekohlgraf4737
    @mikekohlgraf4737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice comparison. Yeah, I noticed that CPU hogging as well. I'll have to upgrade my RAM as I only have 16 right now.

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I run 32gb. Maybe a bit overkill, but it’s nice to have haha

    • @mikekohlgraf4737
      @mikekohlgraf4737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ProducingInTheBox I'll be adding another 16GB as well here pretty soon. Some of the synths I got are very RAM consuming.

  • @JEFFMAN90
    @JEFFMAN90 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have both but these days I only use my MPC Live 2 to make beats and then bounce the stems over to either DAW. Honestly for some reason my mixes sounds better on Studio One then it does on Ableton. However I am much quicker on Ableton as I know majority of the key commands. I just wish that Ableton redesigned the mixer view to make it look like Logic and Studio One

  • @brucepaillex604
    @brucepaillex604 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For a beginner do you recommend Ableton Lite 11 or Studio one Artist?

  • @fischergreen4134
    @fischergreen4134 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I use both. Live for clip launch and improvisation and Studio one for audio slicing mixing and mastering both have their strengths and things they could do better

  • @filipmilojkovic1059
    @filipmilojkovic1059 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just tested Ableton live 12, and bro... Studio One 6 is KING for me :D ez for composing, mixing and mastering...

    • @alanGaMeRhorror
      @alanGaMeRhorror 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, I tried several daws, only liked Ableton but I had the lite version so I got the audiobox 96 that had a key of studio one artist included and really everything I loved about Ableton I was able to replicate in S1 it's actually easier and faster, also uses a lot less resources. Presonus offered me the pro upgrade for half price so I took it, I only spent like $300 (adding the $100 of the interface) where as with Ableton you have to pay more than double for the full version, also a lot of people probably don't need the pro version, artist has some deficiencies but not as crippling as the Ableton starter versions, and you get S1 artist for free with most Presonus hardware
      Also Ableton was really heavy with resources and crashed frequently because I didn't had enough ram (I have 16gb) and something I hate about S1 is that it needs full control of the audio, meaning you can't really play any audio outside S1, yes it has the option to free the audio when it's not active but It doesn't work well

  • @Slang_Forever
    @Slang_Forever ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish ableton had scissors tool in piano roll and that it had low latency like studio one. These affect my workflow in live

    • @richardsmithson4453
      @richardsmithson4453 ปีที่แล้ว

      I learnt Ableton has a low latency monitoring mode only recently. I don't know why it isn't an advertised feature more often

  • @WarrenPostma
    @WarrenPostma ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's kind of shocking to me that in 2022 ableton live still lacks a pop out mixer panel, or a docked mixer panel with the faders, and inserts, and sends, and channel views without the clip launcher parts wasting space.
    Cubase has a wonderful mixer view, as does Reaper, StudioOne, and literally every other DAW other than ableton. Even bitwig which is LIVE done better, has a decent mixer and a decent channel view.

    • @JEFFMAN90
      @JEFFMAN90 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly 💯. If Ableton had that then it would be the best DAW

    • @austonsmith536
      @austonsmith536 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can have two windows of ableton with one showing the mixer and disabling the buttons you do not want taking up space.
      Why is the comments full of people saying Ableton can't do certain things when it can? LMAO
      Is this some sorta marketing plan studio one is doing with one dude making studio one bots in an effort to sell their product?
      I've yet to see one comment saying something factual about Ableton live.

  • @mrbeats7434
    @mrbeats7434 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will Ableton fix the latency timeline vertical playback? That is what made me switch to Studio One 6. After a while I found the beat (visually) was not in time with the grid. Was cumbersome when recording in midi events etc.

    • @blobby1ful
      @blobby1ful 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They actually did in Live 12

  • @budgetkeyboardist
    @budgetkeyboardist ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good stuff. I'm a Logic guy but I use Ableton for live gigs/backing tracks. Mixing 90 traditional tracks in the studio in Ableton is a horrible experience - the lack of a real mixing board is a deal killer. It's built around the concept of making music with loops, which isn't how I think. I have Studio One installed, and honestly, it's pretty good. I prefer it to Cubase. Reaper reminds me of Linux - as a computer guy, I'm strangely attracted to it... until I try to use it and remember that it comes with almost nothing and the learning curve is steep.

  • @KRMoore731
    @KRMoore731 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a year later and we now have dolby atmos 😁😁😁

  • @Sool101
    @Sool101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more I watched, the more I'm glad that Reason exists. It's not bad at all especially REX files and creating them. So, no switching DAWs for me soon.

    • @briancouture6033
      @briancouture6033 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Reason ruined my life with that crappy piano roll

  • @robertl.6919
    @robertl.6919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still no " scrub tool " for fixing audio glitches.

  • @Sourbotrithy
    @Sourbotrithy ปีที่แล้ว

    Studio one

  • @snubdawg1386
    @snubdawg1386 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the infos ....unfortunately that's 2 dealbreakers for me 11:42 - 12:20

  • @Djsatile
    @Djsatile ปีที่แล้ว

    Ableton is definitely great I came from logic and fl

  • @d.n.3086
    @d.n.3086 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is no discussion, but studio one is by far the most advanced DAW.

  • @mansourdorado
    @mansourdorado ปีที่แล้ว +3

    S1 has a bit of every other DAW, the funny thing is that main ones like PT, Qbase, Logic, and Ab Live are still copy each other and S1 copy them all

  • @kiddynamite3931
    @kiddynamite3931 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn't get into anything you didn't like anything (real) you don't like with S1. 64th is pleanty for flams, but if you change your 1/4 note, you can easily get 128 with no issue.

  • @cxmxc
    @cxmxc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude i tried FL studio I couldn’t do it I think I’m dumb it’s so hard

  • @nadeem_mastan
    @nadeem_mastan ปีที่แล้ว

    Ableton ❤

  • @HarryAdee
    @HarryAdee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the best comparison is between Bitwig and Ableton

  • @fulanxi6434
    @fulanxi6434 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For your CPU problems just use a mac. Great video!

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂 to be fair, the M series chips are mind boggling.

  • @deepofomin228
    @deepofomin228 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ableton top.

  • @drej14
    @drej14 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. Can anyone recommend a DAW for windows doing church live stream? Beginner friendly.

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Studio One is fantastic! Reaper is a one time affordable purchase as well. I use Logic at my church but that’s mac only! Any DAW will be just fine tho!

    • @drej14
      @drej14 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks how would you compare StudioOne vs Abelton for my purpose?

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drej14 Studio One would be better in my opinion. The mixer View would make it a breeze to run live. Very similar to Logic.

    • @drej14
      @drej14 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate your time and knowledge thanks again

  • @hugo54758
    @hugo54758 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    For Studio One the biggest flaw is that it has no live looping

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thats a great point. I should have added that!

    • @WyattLite-n-inn
      @WyattLite-n-inn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ProducingInTheBox This video is RIDICULOUSLY good… Thanks !

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma ปีที่แล้ว

      Ableton is awesome at live looping, so is Bitwig.

    • @ambientsounds1416
      @ambientsounds1416 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats live looping?

    • @jayxsnipes
      @jayxsnipes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nah biggest flaw is their bullshit customer support

  • @masstv_official1189
    @masstv_official1189 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like both of them it just sometimes studio one it’s kinda boring too me

  • @petedabrain
    @petedabrain 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What i hate about ableton. Theres no way to fade in/out multiple clips in a row. In Studio one and almost every other daw i select a number of clips and have to enter a value or just drag the fader which applies to all of them

  • @leftfeelsright1968
    @leftfeelsright1968 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will have to agree that ableton is a bit better in terms of warp algorithm then studio one and it's stock plugins are geard towards sound design but rest, studio one is way better then ableton..

  • @kyfisher3662
    @kyfisher3662 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've spent alot of time in both and my conclusion is
    Ableton is great for composing but missing alot of features,
    Studio one has everything but the way routing works and a few other little things make it great for mixing but bad for composing.

    • @hirokomlm131
      @hirokomlm131 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get confused when people say "DAW X is good/bad for composing" because the majority of music throughout history was composed before DAWs existed.
      When people refer to composing in a DAW, are they talking about specific in the box genres, or are they talking about all genres from classical orchestra music to electronic dance music?

    • @kyfisher3662
      @kyfisher3662 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@hirokomlm131 hey mate, composing in a DAW refers to anyone who writes there music in a DAW, so genres like dubstep or trap are 100% composed in a DAW but then other genres it depends on the workflow of the musician,
      ill give a few examples. 1 being no composition in daw, 2 composing in daw, 3 the in-between.
      for a band genres
      band 1, they goto a rehearsal studio/garage and write the song brain storming ideas as a group or even solo and testing them out untill the songs ready. then goto a studio to record, for an example 'Dune Rats' for something modern or any band pre 2000
      band 2, alot of the time have 1 guy doing most of the work of the composing but not always, he will write the songs by recording parts into his DAW and then do the brainstorming process by making changes to the song in the DAW, that being different versions of a riff, testing different beats with midi, different song structures and so on, a good band for an example would be 'periphery' and they have a video of misha doing this on youtube if you search "Misha Mansoor Song writing Masterclass",
      band 3, they write the song in person but then when they record they make alot of changers or experiment with strange layers, sometimes even hiring a producer to work alongside the engineer to do this.
      for orchestral,
      composer 1, writes the song on manuscript while playing his instrument of choice to test ideas and works with an orchestra and an engineer to make it come to life.
      composer 2, uses VSTs and MIDI, making changes based on what he hears, you can see this in videos from "Alex Moukala Tutorials" on youtube.
      Composer 2, will compose mostly in a music notation program, but then will either goto composer 1s method or composers 2s method mattering on his preference/budget.
      i hope i didn't ramble too much and hope it helps,

    • @hirokomlm131
      @hirokomlm131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kyfisher3662 Thanks, this helps alot. I'm "old school", and I think a lot of people born after 2000 don't realize that words like "beats" and "composing" used to mean totally different things.
      I used to do great composing on a cheap keyboard sequencer where you could set up all the parts of your song as loops assigned to different buttons, and then you could just have fun pushing the buttons line a drum machine and making different versions of your song where maybe the chorus was 3 minutes long , maybe you put the intro at the end, the verse in the beginning, change the pitch and tempo on the fly, etc. It's was kind of like DJing your own composition.
      I've yet to find that kind of workflow in DAWs that cost 10x as much as that piece of junk keyboard.

  • @bobbylimesmusic
    @bobbylimesmusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thinking of switching. Starting to lose faith in S1 for beatmaking and experimenting. Ableton has 8 modulators and S1 has none as far as I know

  • @probilmusic3396
    @probilmusic3396 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    for me me, Ableton live has that cartoon look which makes it unprofessional. And also effects racks looks more like computer game software. that's my opinion.

  • @kiillabytez
    @kiillabytez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have videoi annotations turned off, so I really don't know what you were pointing at for me to "Click here..."

  • @ashavari
    @ashavari 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ok so studio one for recording & mixing, ableton for production - BET

  • @101Licious
    @101Licious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use Studio One as my main DAW ... BUT, it lacks at MIDI-features, it's so poor vs. e.g. Cubase. Dunno why I'm here, but let me watch the video now.

  • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
    @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey brother... Where's the "Lifesaving Mixing Trick"?

    • @MidiboyGregg
      @MidiboyGregg ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah. I was wondering the same. I think he forgot to attach it.

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am so sorry! I forgot to attach it! Here's the link and I just added the end screen! Sorry about that haha th-cam.com/video/PSm6na_xk5c/w-d-xo.html

    • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
      @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ProducingInTheBox Nice... Thanks!
      BTW, I shot you a DM in IG. Perhaps you'll give it a read... There's an opportunity to broaden your audience significantly (and no, i'm not selling any products or services). :-)

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios I’m sorry I get like 100 a week so I’ll have to figure out which one is yours! I don’t even mind services. Just scams I avoid haha I’ll respond ASAP!

  • @electromajick
    @electromajick ปีที่แล้ว

    studio one has a finder window

  • @bisikeshan_619
    @bisikeshan_619 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Remember the Dubstep king & The Grammy holder Papa Skrillex use Ableton live

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      “Papa Skrillex” 😂😅💀💀💀

    • @bisikeshan_619
      @bisikeshan_619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ProducingInTheBox
      Yaa it means "Dad Skrillex"
      😂
      David Guetta too use Ableton

  • @lovemusic942
    @lovemusic942 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think modern day music producers, especially those who do electronic/hip hop/rnb/pop will use Ableton. Anybody outside of that-It could be any DAW. Studio One still hasn’t reached the main stream as a Fl, Logic of Ableton.

    • @donshifty
      @donshifty ปีที่แล้ว

      so in your opinion which should i use if i do hip hop? ableton?

    • @Mope333
      @Mope333 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donshifty any daw

  • @DJMoonlightKonamare
    @DJMoonlightKonamare ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have never used Studio One, although I did look into using it in 2019, but I was still using FL Studio.
    I no longer use FL Studio.

  • @prototype8137
    @prototype8137 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cubase!

  • @reisaki18
    @reisaki18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the first guy loves ableton live
    but proceed to flex reaper.
    reaper is the best

    • @morizanova
      @morizanova 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Finishing and Mixing in Reaper indeed offer much complex and better experiences

  • @Barncore
    @Barncore ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Studio One user, the S1 segment wasn't very convincing

  • @skilsemmanuelmanager7315
    @skilsemmanuelmanager7315 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FL is the best. Deal done

  • @RogerBrenon
    @RogerBrenon ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ableton is just a visual old school mess. I can't for the life of me understand how people keep using old stuff because they know it better and are always afraid to take a step forward to advance. Got a friend who still uses a real old version of cakewalk. He won't even upgrade to the newer versions because he might have to learn something to make his life easier.

    • @theopacalypse
      @theopacalypse ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true

    • @MaximusWhyman
      @MaximusWhyman ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’m a longtime S1 user who moved to Ableton. (Still use S1 sometimes) I’ll tell you what I like better about Ableton
      1. Ableton is more stable(at least for me)
      2. Clip Launcher for fast sketching ideas
      3. Modulation/automation is so easy
      4. Virtual instrument’s are better
      5. Ableton’s interface having everything at a glance on one page
      6. Simpler for cutting and sampling loops(especially with Push 2)
      7. Ableton’s midi effects
      8. Max For Live
      If you’re recording bands, or mixing albums S1 is probably the way to go.l though.

    • @jensenraylight8011
      @jensenraylight8011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ableton made that way with purpose,
      if you're using ableton, it tells people that you did a ton of Live performance session.
      and in Live performance session, you don't want any clutter,
      everything is positioned exactly as you expect,
      it mean that it should be no Pop up windows, having a flat minimalist UI theme,
      Everything should be accessible in one page.
      the only people who complain about ableton UI are the one who never use it,
      the people who use Ableton knows that Ableton UI is a Godsend,
      the UI is designed to remove ton of mental baggages, especially when you doing Live performance.
      it's a Masterclass of DAW ui design
      Ableton is unlike your sh*tty DAW with a clusterf*ck UI,
      in Ableton, Everything are there with a reason,
      you should educate yourself first before trash talking something that you don't understand

    • @morizanova
      @morizanova 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it start as Live Looping perform software . And many of Ableton users indeed doing live performance and doing complex stuff on the fly . I know for traditional workflow there are better options out there including S1 but for live performing and love looping only few which comparable with Ableton .

  • @ahmedyadam7240
    @ahmedyadam7240 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Abelton live
    1.Midi-out option for virtual tracks
    2.Huge amount of built-in virtual instruments
    3. Simpler , sampler
    4. Built in LFO vst
    Fl Studio
    1.Continuous loop recording
    Meaning I can play a track from its own play button and not with a midi controller, keep it playing and at the same time I can record this track to another track
    2. Fastest opening of them all
    Reason 12
    The huge arsenal of effects, instruments
    Studio one
    Everything you hate in all of them it's better in it
    Except what I mentioned above

  • @vroteg
    @vroteg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    05:30 I hope it will never happen. ARA make daws unstable. Ableton already has some issues with stability. More issues no one needs.

  • @babykabitaafonso6426
    @babykabitaafonso6426 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Le monde évolue les logiciels sont devenue compatible les un vers les autres, mais je trouve Ableton continue de rester ferme comme Apple donc beaucoup musicien vont l'oublier comme iphone...

  • @nomad1517
    @nomad1517 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ableton needs plugin sandboxing like Bitwig.

    • @nowondr
      @nowondr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Many of the gripes he had with Ableton are resolved in bitwig. Bitwig makes an effort to have the mixing pane. Still not nearly as good as using something like studio one for mixing tho.

  • @geoekmgmail
    @geoekmgmail 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ableton made me a composer without knowing music.

  • @johnhill762
    @johnhill762 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The channel editor is not cool. Not at all. It’s basically the equivalent of Cubase’s editor. I hated that. Any pop up windows are usually more annoying than anything. Better to have everything there on the main window. The windows you have to open up are irritating.
    But I suppose at least Studio One makes it optional, whereas in Cubase it’s necessary to control things like the inserts or volume.

  • @DJSandyMKD
    @DJSandyMKD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ableton is scientist daw😂

  • @shashanksharma17
    @shashanksharma17 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have worked on almost every DAW and ableton live is the best for music production/arrangements/layering and audio engineering

  • @nikklardelight
    @nikklardelight 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your guy was wrong about ARA esp melodyne. You just go on the vocal and hit edit , melodyne will open if you have it installed it and after correction you just hit replace audio on melodyne then done

  • @WeSuckAsHumans
    @WeSuckAsHumans 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hows time flex and pitch correction in S1

  • @user-qh9bd2kg6i
    @user-qh9bd2kg6i ปีที่แล้ว

    flstudio VS studio One?

  • @kiillabytez
    @kiillabytez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Live is the only DAW I know on the planet that people refer to as ABLETON Live instead of just LIVE, so people understand what you're talking about.
    Nobody ever says COCKOS Reaper, PRESONUS Studio One, or PREPELLERHEAD Reason when talking about them, so I guess that's another strike against Live, isn't it?

  • @ikamy
    @ikamy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    get rid of the cap

  • @ArthurKlisiewicz
    @ArthurKlisiewicz ปีที่แล้ว

    I use LIVE since verison 3. ABLETON support, really, really sucks. Ableton is obsessed about any kind of criticism. Pathetic!

  • @yurikalashnikov2460
    @yurikalashnikov2460 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If only I could custom organize my hundreds of AU plugins in ableton. It’s awful.

  • @ArthurKlisiewicz
    @ArthurKlisiewicz ปีที่แล้ว

    I use LIVE for 16 years. Tried S1 for 6 months. I say NO. Will not switch. To complex, counterintuitive, takes forever to learn, cluttered interface.

  • @xenobiigaming
    @xenobiigaming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Studio One doesnt seem to hide the fact the GUI seems an awful lot like Cubase... Seems like a knockoff, and why do people insist on calling Live "Ableton"? So weird...

  • @Reggi_Sample
    @Reggi_Sample ปีที่แล้ว

    Ableton is King

  • @nofood1
    @nofood1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Latency in Ableton is garbage

  • @mansourdorado
    @mansourdorado ปีที่แล้ว

    time stretching S1 wins Live has a fucking powerful browser so management Live wins. for organic sound S1 is awesome it sounds so organic just like Logic or Pro Tools or Cubase, live unfortunately sounds like plastic, for FL Studio I never used it so I can’t say anything about it

  • @RockTo11
    @RockTo11 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the Ableton GUI layout is great - but it's just so ugly and diminishes my inspiration. A tool which is used for hours on end really needs to be a nice place to be. It's like working in an cubical office with horrible florescent lighting. The tacky ultra-flat graphics are nothing but pretentious designer BS.
    Studio One looks so much prettier. the GUI has subtle depth and insets, which simultaneously lowers visual noise, while keeping contrast high enough to differentiate sections. It is strange, right?... but the look of the tool really does make a difference to the creative process with audio creativity.,

  • @partlysimpson5154
    @partlysimpson5154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ableton is lighter on cpu

  • @TheSlim1
    @TheSlim1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Studio one 👍
    Ableton👎

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      I love both, but my heart goes to Studio One haha

  • @ACABSTUDIOS
    @ACABSTUDIOS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You brought on someone who barely knows how to use ableton

    • @JEFFMAN90
      @JEFFMAN90 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a stupid comment

  • @Thisninjascared
    @Thisninjascared ปีที่แล้ว

    Studio one steals Al their features from CUBASE so you really like CUBASE but studio one is the poor man’s CUBASE smh. Shame on y’all

    • @JEFFMAN90
      @JEFFMAN90 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man shut up 😂😂

  • @geometrae4773
    @geometrae4773 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy isnt really an ableton expert....i have solutions for all his "problems"

  • @barrakingbeatz7794
    @barrakingbeatz7794 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    studio one is just butt! ugly though

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🤣🤣🤣 It's an aquired taste

    • @RogerBrenon
      @RogerBrenon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you use?

    • @ProducingInTheBox
      @ProducingInTheBox  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RogerBrenon I use Studio One! I love it. It looks and feels similar to Logic Pro IMO and that’s why I use it. I switched a few years back.

    • @shan5445
      @shan5445 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the look it is clean and inviting

    • @inactiveaccount6106
      @inactiveaccount6106 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ableton looks like a spreadsheet, but I like its features. I code all day. I don't feel like looking at that in my free time. I find myself squinting too much.