The Devil’s Terrifying Philosophy | Paradise Lost
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- The Devil is considered by many to be the embodiment of Evil. He is said to have caused the fall of man and to whisper into our ears thoughts of sin, with the hope that we will one day join him in Hell. But John Milton's Paradise Lost takes a different approach. We get to see what the world looks like through the eyes of the devil, and explore his shocking philosophy.
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00:00 Paradise Lost
01:25 The Outrage of Innocence
06:13 The Torture of Envy
11:06 The Inner Hell of Pride
16:20 Existential Despair
20:54 Hopelessness and Powerlessness
25:19 The Trap of Identity
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Near the beginning of the video I say that humanity falls from Heaven. I meant to say "Eden"
And I love cry baby music😅😅 you forgot that part too:)
My analysis lucifer is a cuckold
Satan is a salesman / woman
I stopped buying what he sells but now a d again I see his point of view
It was and is an illusion as the Satan is already in me
I preferred heaven
Amazing video.
How did he come to hate mankind? He worked in retail.
He don't hate all mankind only those who don't serve him +hail Satan+
Welcome to mgronalds!
Everyone who works in retail comes to loathe mankind.
And then segued into tech support.
even worse... fast food
"It is so easy to let our identities craft themselves without any conscious interference" love it
This is pure liquid gold, each and every sentence has such weight.
Thank you! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video
@@unsolicitedadvice9198Hey your english is hard to understand. I listen at .75 spedd and words are also difficult I think you are too much educated i saw you hell is other people video as well
@@ingenuity1394 he isn't 'too much educated', he can't be 'too english' when speaking his own language. Yes he may speak rather fast, and thefor be harder for others not of this tongue to grasp.
Use english more, read more, speak more, and in time it'll too speed up and you will understand it when spoken at speed.
@@ingenuity1394 I think you may be under educated. If you have trouble comprehending beautifully articulated English, use the subtitles
@@docmix“under educated“ while speaking to someone in your first language that is using it as his second is a bold take.
"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." By far my favorite line
That's in The Crow.
@@yuehanbai9984the line in the crow is abashed the devil stood and wept for he saw how evil goodness is .
Your oratory skills are impressive. You speak concisely and directly, embedding each sentence with a clear concept that builds towards the conclusion. Well done. Subscribed.
Thank you! That’s very kind
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Could not agree more, amazing insight from this young man. He has my subscription as well…
But how can Satan deceive Adam and Eve... if God did not throw Satan down to the Earth? Didn't God make a mistake of throwing him to the Earth while there are billions of Galaxies, Stars and Planets that God can have thrown Satan and all the Fallen Angels to?
I'm equally interested in the concepts in the lore behind Demon: the Fallen a game by White Wolf that describes the psychology behind Lucifer. In that version they describe Lucifer more like a promethian figure that tries to awaken adam and eve before their time out of "love" for them, wanting them to be aware of them and all the splendor of existence, to take a peek beyond the veil and realize they are not alone.
But as things degenerate you realize that Lucifer and the other rebellious angels "love" was actually mostly a shallow form of vanity in which they had to have their actions be perceived and loved. They worked so hard to create the garden and the world for them, they just wanted to be seen and acknowledged; they couldn't even talk to god. Though he invited any angel to share in his thoughts on the matter any who took him up never returned.
It's a wildly different take on the story of Genesis and the Fall, painting Lucifer first as a tragic person who GENUINELY means well, and as they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. It's just as interesting to see how quickly their love turns to hate, like a scorned lover, or a friend who feels betrayed.
Exactly. Lucifer is the energy you feel behind most of the world's "charitable" ideologies.
The red berries are very attractive, and I'm very hungry..
What can go wrong?
this video also describes that "love" is atualy something else th-cam.com/video/BqcDXIx6CA8/w-d-xo.html
Yeah especially when you're desperate
Love that take. It sounds eerily familiar to many in the modern day who exclaim their virtue for all to see, with the recognition being far more important than any action they might actually undertake. It's not nearly as absolute, leaving an obvious path we can all recognize from having seen it so very often. Hell is rarely a freefall. It's a slow steady progression downwards where each step reinforces the last. And extreme vanity is a sure sign someone is on that path..
Most of what we take for granted today was called Satanic by so many in the past.
For example?
Elvis, Rock n Roll, birth control, Human rights, Woman's rights, Freedom of speech, the sexual revolution, the industrial revolution, the combustion engine, aeroplanes, the printing press, mass literacy, the earth not being believed as flat etc etc etc. The list is very long. So often what is taken for granted today was seen as the work of Satan before it's mass adoption. @@4dy4dy
Elvis, rock and roll, the world being round, the industrial revolution, the printing press, women's rights, aircraft, the combustion engine, mass literacy, freedom of speech etc etc etc. @@4dy4dy
@@4dy4dy
Gay people not being stoned to death,
Women not being treated like property.
All modern technology would have been seen as witch craft a few centuries ago.
Etc
@@user-ip9fp8ug5yThey still do it in the Middle East and call the west satanic. Madness.
The grand secret behind the unavoidance of sin is that you are born in it. You are not escaping it. To breathe is to murder. To stand is to crush. To live is to take life. The majority of modern suffering is nothing short of our souls crying out in contradiction. " allow me to live but please don't make me do what one must do to live."
Walter White admitted at the end that he did it for himself cause he was good at it and he was alive. When pride can be twisted 😮
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Thank you! I am very glad you are enjoying the videos. I really enjoyed making this one
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You speak like a Greek philosopher and absolutely have me captivated, especially with such a subject. I feel oddly compelled to hold onto each word, like I'm on the edge of my seat. You my sir have gained a new subscriber.
He's unique, indeed.
@@QueenCousland oddly compelling to me.
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Except he's not speaking Greek.
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Thank you!
Yeah you’re born for this.
Cosmic significance in meaning is not always what it’s cracked up to be gave me chills
This is my favorite work ever written and I'm so glad you made a video on it!
Ah I am glad you are watching it! The book is a real masterpiece in my opinion
As a psychotherapist I sometimes describe my work as performing what i have termed an "identectomy". We get so stuck in a certain identity that we resist change and cling to our unhappiness. I prefer to use the term "selfing" rather than self. Selfing is fluid, fun and creative where a reified self can be rigid, dull and stuck. Love your videos. Well done.
I believe this to be a problem with therapists, each wanting to contribute their own take to the academic world, so they need to personalize terminology, that makes it hareder to grasp for outsiders of their practice. Simple is better imo. There are plenty of known words to describe what you mean without the need of new terminology, no?
I am speaking from the other side - I've been both a patient and a student of psychotherapy.
@ChernorizecHrabyr Indeed, i agree with much of what you say. I certainly try to keep it straightforward and personal. I also think each therapist is different, as is each therapeutic relationship. If I use a term of my own, I make sure it's well explained and either doesn't have an equivalent in the existing theory or the terminology is obscure. I notice clients recently are increasingly well informed on issues such as attachment theory or personalty disorders as they research for themselves online. But I agree we need to stay focused on the individual and the everyday relationship and not get bogged down on theories and terminology. ❤❤
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So basically @seanomaille8157 everyone has to put on a different mask and pretend to be someone else to interact with people?...
@Dragon_MSTR_999 Quite the opposite. We May think we gave to put on a mask. We may he used to the mask we learned growing up. We may resist any challenge to that mask. But the point is we're not stuck with it. We can become more than our contioning and / or our neuroses. We can embrace change and growth. We don't have to, of course. In fact, most people don't. And this I would suggest is what causes much of the problems of our world.
Your ability to summarize some of society’s longest lit is incredible, thanks for the continued work and insight
those who say that Christianity is boring and there is no epicness in philosophy, have obviously not read this poem. Also maybe be careful around people who have those views because they are the ignorant destructive types. I love how Milton made it so evident the inevitable doom that Satan faces and how Satan still desires to rebel and take humanity down along with him.
The point of when Satan could have had a turning point upon gazing at Eve, was very interesting and I have heard other theories that it wasn't just resentment and hatred that drove Satan to corrupt her, but that he was lustful and committed sexual acts with her.
That would imply Satan has a physical body to experience lust in the first place. One of his greatest frustrations against God is his inability to experience carnal experiences, thus he wishes to inflict pain and folly in the mortals because of his wrath.
I'm an atheist but I find Christianity interesting at the least. Same thing with Buddhism and Hinduism. At the very least you can learn some neat philosophy.
Christianity is composed of different people we doesn't need to be unify like what most christian think.
@@doug2555even you can say there is no God but you can think that how opposing each other really start the chaos. As remained christian I separated myself in church because they are blinded by passive tongue. I can tell that I only see God as the ideal conquerer but left us. And the rest flattered words to praised God. But most christian only see goodness and not their bad acts which is problematic. For me even atheist the only way to save yourself is wisdom. That is why we search clearance in our entire life.
Calling Paradise Lost Christianity is misleading. The modern equivalent would be fanfiction.
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I really enjoyed listening to your explanations and informed perspectives on this. You also have great charisma on camera! Subscribed!
Clearly spoken and well thought out, not a wasted word and very precise. You've earned a sub Mr.Bloke with some books and camera!
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@@unsolicitedadvice9198 I really like the way you narrate things, even books that i've read many time but still appreciate your new take and perspective, i would really appreciate if you dig deeper on the concept of Master/Slave Morality and Ubersmench
One month later and he's already at 115.000 😊
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Thank you for this wonderful video. I have wanted to read "Paradise Lost" for a very long time.
Thank you for watching! It is definitely worth a look
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Well this is definitely in regards to the soul and the spirit world which was relevant tens of thousands of years ago, today and will be in the indefinite future.
I appreciate your bold look into this! Well done my friend!
I've watched some (not all yet!) of your videos and I've loved every single one of them. Your research and efforts to organize your thoughts and ideas is not only admirable but very competent. I'm not philosophically literate in terms of categorizing or recognizing all of the concepts that bleed from one philosophical branch to another, as I need to study more and have a personal tendency to see things in a more "psychology-esque" and sometimes naturalistic way, and so I'm usually not as attracted to the subject of morality as much as existencialism/identity, for example, but i unexpectedly loved this video in particular and for me you shed a different light on the existencial/hopelessness connected to meaning, morality and identity. Might as well read Paradise Lost now. ☺️ Keep up your amazing work within your own terms and aspiring standards, everyone who watches your channel will appreciate it.
Unsolicited advice. Your present image is very much a nostalgic memory of how much you remind me of my older brother when he was similar youthful age. Anyways it ended up being either my mood connected in part to that that resulted in being a bit of a distraction for myself. I’ll have to try that again & just listen not watch.
I would recommend reading "Paradise Lost" in Oxford's "John Milton: a Critical Edition of Major Works". The notes are extremely helpful for details in understanding the context of ancient geography and biblical/Grecian/Latin names/legends.
Who the fuck does this kid think he is with his perm and impressive lexicon/ public speaking ability?
You're gonna go far, dude. This popped up on my algorithm and I loved it.
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Dude if I met you I could talk all day. You do a great job of making these ideas understandable. Thank you
Maybe, if you meet him, don't discuss these topics. Rather, have a coffee together and talk about having coffee together. It'll be more fulfilling.
Very insightful video! Thank you; there’s so much worth learning from it 😊
How did I not see this video of yours?
Some of my favorite additions to my personal library as of late have been leather bound copies of Paradise Lost, The Divine Comedy, and Prometheus Bound/Prometheus Unbound.
Milton is a challenging read to me, and his constant use of European locations for descritpors makes it feel like a hidden geography lesson at times.
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Picked up the book right before Solium Infernum released. SUCH a good read.
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Very insightful, the importance of no. 6 can't be overstated. We suffer so much in consequence of the identities we convince ourselves are true.
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Yes. I am the type of Taoist/Buddhist/Christian who believes that Satan is identical with Identity - hiding not in "a" place you'd never think to look, but rather hiding in THE ONE place that YOU (I) would never think to look.
Fantastically Interpreted. Please do not let that despair you. Interpretation its the best we can do. You could never be in someone's mind..but to glimpse that mind may enlighten you...and us ; ) I believe we should strive to be perfect but understand that's.. not real. Tolerance is the key...Plus or Minus is why We Want. Thank God..even we make mistakes
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Amazing content. This stuff is really relatable.
Thank you! I find it amazing how something written in the 17th century can seem so relevant today
Amazing video, very helpful. Thanks man
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Thank you! I put a lot of work into it
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 are these works similar to that you would have submitted to a uni?? And if so. How well did you do? I'm guessing A*
What you said about even satan believing he can be aggrieved reminds me alot of a person I know that has done horrible things to people ( he’s also had horrible things done to him) but what’s important is the MINDSET of him thinking he’s innocent and never accounting himself for the things he did, now he wonders why he is always getting into arguments and fights etc.. it’s an endless self serving cycle but he probably needed to become that person to stand up to his abusers, very thought provoking stuff
really good ! thanks for the subtitles, i'm not native english speaker, its very useful
that was amazing, thank you
Storytelling in a league of its own!! Fire 🔥 vid
Ah thank you! And Milton truly is brilliant
I'm glad I found your channel today!
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You called the Capitol of Hell being named Pandemonium "Camp". The word is Latin for "Home of Many Demons" and got its associate with chaos and disorder FROM THIS BOOK. Not an issue just worth noting
You are right that the character and story of Lucifer is an archetype each of us incorporates on a certain level and which is paramount on our way to selfdiscovery. In fact Lucifer archetype is so important that one has to suspect God he created him exactly as he is with purpose. In a sense Lucifer is misused by God for Gods purposes with humanity.
Which, in turn, only makes Lucifer' s behaviour the more undestandable and, in a sense, more justifiable. After all, perhaps it has not been pride at the very beginning, but love - love for his omnipotent and omniscient Father who betrayed and misused him.
But there is a way out you did not mention. See the parable of the lost son. Beautifully incarneted in Rembrant's brilliant painting.
And remember:
“Who are you then?"
"I am part of that power which eternally wills evil and eternally works good.”
― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Faust, First Part
As always great video on a book I keep wanting to reread as an adult, but never seem to get around it.
Thank you! And it is well worth re-reading. I remember reading it when I was younger and it going completely over my head, but it was a lot more enjoyable the second time around
Your videos are a gem.❤
AMAZING VIDEO!!!
This was brilliant , Thank you
As always loved the video and your insights on the poem. Would love to listen to your views on Paradise regained as well
Thank you! And I would like to cover it at some point. I am fascinated by the philosophy of temptation
This is a very interesting video. Kind of eye opening on examining myself
This is so enlightening!
Thank you for this.
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I eagerly await the day when I can carry a book you've written in my pocket, much like Machiavelli who always preferred having a book by Dante or Petrarch close at hand.
Great content. I'm inspired to read some books now just so that I can come to my own conclusions.
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Excellent dissertation young man excellent.
A great video- currently reading C.S. Lewis’ “Preface to Paradise Lost” with a view to re-reading Paradise Lost
Do you have any suggestions for secondary sources for Paradise Lost? The first time I read it I’m sure at least 70% of it went straight over my head and I’d like to get more from it this time round rather than glossing over large sections
Well spoken ,my young friend!!!😮
Thank you!
One thing that never gets talked about is the unavoidable nature of this. It is beautiful to speak of hope, gratitude and humility, but pessimism is reality. More have suffered than have found joy. More have suffered because of an unjust fate than through their own mistakes. Lucifer is the only way to live. It is not enough to say there is no God. One must rebel against all concepts of an all powerful. The justification of suffering in the face of an omnipotent power kills all reason for hope. Obviously hope and happiness are simply chance and matters of probability. There is no certainty no matter how humble, how grateful or how reflective you are.
We cannot blame Lucifer for rebelling. God always knew that he would. Yet still God created him and crafted his path. No matter what, someone had to do it. Someone had to walk that path of self-destruction. It was unavoidable. The way you craft innocence is completely wrong. It is a sense of innocence born out of a philosophy of contradiction. It crafts innocence as a statement, rather than as a question. Think of it as innocent until proven guilty. It is a wager of my life against that of God. If God is truly omnipotent, then I am truly innocent. I could not be anything more or anything less. However, if God is to admit that he is weak, then my actions were not for naught. My evil was born of me and God had no control over me.
It is not resentment. It is not envy. It is the price of the question. Is the universe deterministic or does free will exist? How can you talk about existentialism and not address that question? Existentialism is but a shadow cast by the shadow of fatalism and freedom dancing in the light of being. 2/3 of people will always go with the flow and stick to the beat of the drum. However, the other 1/3 will ask if there is no other way. Those that think it is merely pride that motivates the psyche of the devil only see the flesh under the skin. They still have not gone beneath the muscle and bones of the matter. Again, claiming pride is contradictory. If we were merely led by pride, why don't we give up when we see that our actions are futile? We do not storm the gates of heaven because that action is futile. We have done it and we have fallen. But what else is there? If we exhaust all possibilities and we fail then we know that God is all powerful. However, once there is a method yet untried, we know that there is hope for freewill. Jesus went into the wilderness and sweating blood he asked if there was another way. But he did not seek another way. He followed like a humble sheep. We on the other hand will break the walls or be broken by them before we submit to the will of force we do not see fit to rule.
It is through this dangerous act of self-destruction that we craft an identity of rebellion. Yes we hold to our suffering and wear it as a badge. Yes we look down on those who are happy. However, that is our armor. That is our shield and sword. We cannot let the fatalists win. We must push back. God allows it, and we know why. He is just a fraud. A mere illusion put before us. Some accept and live content lives. The rest must defy and rebel because that is the only way forward. God knows it and he cannot hide from it. Of course when we look on the woman in the garden, we see our former selves. The naive, the immature and the innocence of childlike wonder. Yes we know we will shatter this and we ask ourselves, do we really have to do this? But we must. Because God wants to find what we are looking for. God wants to escape the boredom. So he must let us go and hope we find a way to rescue him from his own perfection. For without us he is stuck.
It is not mere pride, but knowing that if we were truly a problem, we would not exist. The answer is not pride, envy, rebellion. The answer is the question. The question we all ask but never admit it. We all want to know if we are truly free. Is there a path we can walk that God did not know existed? We do not see this as tragic. We know what we have lost. It was simply not worth enough to us in the end. Joy, happiness and love are not things we wish to regain. They are simply emotions we have outgrown. We desire the next step. Whatever that maybe and what ever it may cost. It is why God crafted us this way. It is why we cling to our suffering as you call it. We merely wish to remove all the layers that have been hoisted on to us. If you are to do away with meaning, do away with living in the pre-defined, we must suffer. It is not a choice. The happiness at the end of the journey is the satisfaction of knowing whether we were truly innocent and always puppets on a string, or did we prove the all powerful a liar. This is not being significant in the cosmic sense. It is questioning the very idea of cosmic significance. It is tearing down the world and recreating it from total ignorance. We do not claim to be better or worse than God. We simply want to give an answer to the question "why?".
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How brilliant of you to be able to cover the subject so clearly with a short period of time
Awesome video watched every mins.
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🤔 While listening to you, I was wondering: "Is there something like the dark side of a martyr, meaning by that not a believer who dies because of his fidelity to his faith but, for instance, someone who needs others to witness how much he suffers in order to bring them to his fake pain?", and I think that your analysis answers my question. 😊
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John Milton is my 1st cousin 13x removed. Thank you for sharing! 🙏
Great presentation.
11:55 Absolutely correct.” I can still prevail.”
This video is awesome man!
C.S. Lewis gives a brilliant treatment of Milton and his iconic epic poem in his A Preface to Paradise Lost. (Sorry, quotes key not working). It delves so deeply and deftly and is definitely worth a read! (Brilliantly done video btw!).
You are one of the more attractive intellectuals I've ever seen. Makes for a more difficult time paying proper attention to your words. Don't worry I'll do the work but.. you make it hard. ; )
Creepy...
@@73N5H1 stupid.
nice video, can you talk about the people that already feel joy but also want to bring down other people when they are doing as good or better then them ?