Addressing @Underground Church/FOJC Radio & @NYSTV - Why I Left
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- NOTE TO EVERYONE WATCHING: **TO BE CLEAR** LISTEN 1:29:09 and on. A certain someone is posting to their "closed" FB account that I have made a statement which I have not made. If you listen to the video I presented--I NEVER said that they were a 501C3 non-profit. I read from their articles of incorporation in the paragraphs where it speaks about them donating to 501C3 organizations. I even stated in the video that I do not know if in 1984 they had the option for a just non-profit or if they were all under 501C3. Just to be clear. Public records and me reading FROM public records is NOT slander. What they've done and continue to do on their FOJC website, IS defamation and slander. Again, what I said, and it's on this video, is that even if they're not a 501C3, just a non-profit, they are putting down other men of God who are also non-profit (apparently like they are) BECAUSE of that fact!!! Another post from this person clearly stated he didn't listen and wasn't planning to listen to this message, and only "heard" from a friend info. Why then, would he assume he knows what I said in the message? I have posted their articles of incorporation on the community post tab, which is what I read directly from this public document. Please also see my comment 12+ hours ago where I clearly state (not 501C3) multiple times too.
Link to Secretary of State of Indiana inbiz.in.gov/B...
Here is a link to go directly to see IRS site for 501C3: When I searched here, I do not see Followers of Jesus Christ in their list.
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I welcome these channels to join me live (Sunday, 9/22/2024, 6:30pm CST, 7:30pm EST) to discuss this topic in a respectful, Godly way. I will give public response to public statements made by these organizations about me. The truth, Jesus Christ, is my witness and the one true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is who I stand before in fear & trembling. I take this matter seriously and with the fear of the Lord as I move ahead in response. Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him. They have publicly shared their side of this, and now I will share mine. I'm simply asking that the Lord brings who He has purposed to hear the other side to this matter. I have nothing to "win" by anything I'm sharing, but that Jesus Christ wins in and through it all!
Deuteronomy 1:17 Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it.
Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
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NOTE TO EVERYONE WATCHING: **TO BE CLEAR** LISTEN 1:29:09 and on. A certain someone is posting to their "closed" FB account that I have made a statement which I have not made. If you listen to the video I presented--I NEVER said that they were a 501C3 non-profit. I read from their articles of incorporation in the paragraphs where it speaks about them donating to 501C3 organizations. I even stated in the video that I do not know if in 1984 they had the option for a just non-profit or if they were all under 501C3. Just to be clear. Public records and me reading FROM public records is NOT slander. What they've done and continue to do on their FOJC website, IS defamation and slander. Again, what I said, and it's on this video, is that even if they're not a 501C3, just a non-profit, they are putting down other men of God who are also non-profit (apparently like they are) BECAUSE of that fact!!! Another post from this person clearly stated he didn't listen and wasn't planning to listen to this message, and only "heard" from a friend info. Why then, would he assume he knows what I said in the message?
Link to Secretary of State of Indiana inbiz.in.gov/BOS/PublicSearch...
Here is a link to go directly to see IRS site for 501C3: When I searched here, I do not see Followers of Jesus Christ in their list.
apps.irs.gov/app/eos/
Enemy backlash. You were very professional and to the point. It's all recorded. The person who said it might not have even intentionally lied, just didn't hear right? What you did was right but pretty big my dear. I'm sure it's not over. You're a strong woman of God . I'm remembering you in prayer. Keep your habitation the secret place. I've been praying for the exposing but didn't expect this.
I’m so sorry, Traci. I read what Jon wrote and I was so upset because I listened to your whole broadcast and you were amazingly clear. SOMEBODY needed to check before tattling to Jon. Before Jon posted his “defense” he should’ve checked the source himself😢. Such a religious, narcissistic /jezebel, pride, self righteous spirit that has blinded so many of their followers…like lemmings, walking right off a cliff😢. We pray this exposure is the beginning of repentance and healing for all involved. Be protected in Jesus Name🙏❤️🙏
You showed so much grace, integrity, courage, and strength tonight. I'm so sorry to hear what you and Zoe have been going through in silence. I pray that this heals you both, including the others they have done this to. You came with solid proof in a dignified and loving way. Tonight, you were David with your slingshot to help the body of Christ, who is being heavily deceived by many people. These channels, in particular, are having more impact than others in leading us astray with such books as Enoch and others they push very hard. Those books are of Kabbalah practice. Not Christian at all. It is far from the true doctrine of Christ, though I admit I was fooled for 4-5 months. I actually started questioning if I was wrong about the book of Enoch, but all glory to the Holy Spirit for discernment. Not long after that, God pulled me out. This is why I wholeheartedly support everything you said and for making this video. They are being deceptive in more ways than 1. This is unacceptable from anyone, much less "men and women of Christ." It's heartbreaking. I join you Traci in prayer for their repentance. They could do such a mighty work with their broad reach if they actually spoke the true words of the Bible. I also pray for those still involved in their "ministry " and their subscribers to be touched by the Lord to be brought out as He did for me and you Traci
Those offended by this video are idolizing these men. You've poked their golden calves. Satan loves to use offense. I pray they choose to pray about it instead
Hugs to you, Traci. I believe you made our Father proud tonight 🙏❤️
Thank you for your supportive and honest words. I praise the Lord for all His mighty works. He is a good and faithful God! Much love to you, in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Oh my sister TRACI
Just wanted to say how proud I am of you !!! I was throwing up all day and sleeping so I missed this . I’m so happy 🎉up was able to mention a few things a few days ago . I’m really upset how you are treated . Makes sense 🌹sent the angels and Legions of GODS HOLY SPIRIT (sat with you )ILOVEYOU!
Love you sister! Thank you for sharing your experiences. Praying the Lord heals and restores all to you that the enemy tried to steal!!! You're such an encourager and we're blessed to have you here sister!
I fully support you Traci.
I appreciate the love and support. We serve an awesome, powerful, mighty God!!!!
Me too
@@violetlaw8119thank you for your kindness and support.
I'm devastated to hear this. It was due to FOJC, NYSTV, and Remnant Restoration that led me back to Christ, becoming baptised and trying to live by the Scriptures. But I know Father God led me to this broadcast you provided, Traci, and I am thankful that you lifted the veil so we could see the deceptions. I will pray on this for guidance, for you and your daughter's prosperity, and for David, Donna, and Jon to repent. Blessings and peace, from an old soldier from Australia.
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Dear friend in Christ,
Remember that they may have been used as a mouthpiece…but it is only by Gods word, might and pull that we are saved and raised to life!!!!
I give glory and thanks and honor and praise to the Lord for bringing you back into His loving arms! Sometimes, it takes a donkey speaking before we listen. The Lord can use a rock if He chooses!!! Hallelujah!!!! Much love and huge hugs 🤗
A lot of good happened in my life too through them. I've fallen into sin at times in my walk . I was saved in 1982! A lot has happened but I always truly repented. Lets just pray that they deal with the sin and are restored. I was concerned about love. Wasn't sensing it and thought I was probably wrong.
old soldier from Australia.WERE DO YOU LIVE FROM OZ
I understand your hurt Traci. I’m sorry that overall, people are rarely who they appear to be. Something I’ve personally experienced time and time again, circle after circle. It hurts, but when Yah touches your spirit , there is no excuse to ignore! Humility and meekness are things lacking in the majority. May humility and meekness remain with you and may Yah lead you where He wants you to go!!
Thank you for your comment, and for your kindness toward this little work. I'm sorry you've been hurt. Please know the Lord is with us and can do mighty things in our hearts and our lives in a very short amount of time! He IS coming back, on day!!! Until then...we are refined and molded into who He has created us to be! For HIS GLORY!!! (((hugs)))
I used to listen to them daily. But several years ago they trashed Zen Garcia and were so hateful in the way they came against him. I was disappointed. I felt they did not act like his disciples in the way they treated him. Jesus said that the world would know we are his disciples by the love we have for one another. I followed then for a few more weeks, but something was wrong in my spirit from then one.
They simply condemned him teaching the Holy Spirit is the female Barbello??? Which is Gnosticism….
This was a confirmation sister. A long time ago I prayed for discernment. Ive never felt it stronger than in the last 2 years or so of watching them. Lets all continue to pray that the spirits of divisiveness depart and that everyone be restored to humble and loving relationship with one another. God Bless you.
Praise the Lord for allowing confirmation to come through this. We continue, instant in prayer, and knowing that what is impossible for man, is not impossible for our God! Thank you for sharing your testimony of this discernment from the Holy Spirit. It's amazing how many have come forth and shared what they've been shown. Much love, in Christ our Lord.
I've been watching NYSTV for years, and I can see how David does not like it when someone disagrees with him. But if you don't believe Gen 6 isn't talking about angels mating with women, what do you believe it's saying?
I did a study on this subject just a week or so ago, th-cam.com/users/livebp-9zhVltNg?si=Km0ReyANfvyQTHBr
I am following the old school of thought on it right now that Joseph Benson (1800's) and earlier leaned toward understanding. I have more studies to do, and I'm not saying I fully understand it all yet. I am researching and learning along with everyone. But the more I study, the more I examine the scriptures, the more it points to it not being fallen angels mating with women. Read the verses before and after Genesis 6:4 for example, and both before and after the word is clearly speaking of humans and earth etc. It doesn't logically or orderly follow the way our Lord presents His word. His word has order and logical thought/flow. It's been a lot to have to re-examine in my walk, and review, and ask in prayer for truth and clarity, and a lot a lot of laying down everything I "think I know" or "have a grasp on" May we continue to grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you for listening, and commenting!
Regarding celebrating Christmas - this is not a prescription for everyone, just one woman's testimony. Seven years ago I attempted to bring all my traditions, assumptions, etc. under the light of scripture, and was prayerfully considering the warnings of NYSTV and others, that Christmas was pagan and sinful.
My logical mind told me, as you mentioned in the video, that I was NOT worshipping the tree when I knelt to place a package under it. I DID have peace that being generous and giving gifts, as well as the rich family time we shared, were good things. Still, I wasn't sure all the Christmas trappings (the tree, decorations, commercialism, stress) were acceptable to the Father. After wrestling with it for weeks, and not feeling as though I was getting any definitive direction from the Holy Spirit, one day a thought occurred to me while I was in prayer: If I was having this much struggle at the thought of letting go of an earthly tradition - whether it was sinful or not - had it become a de facto idol to me? Though I wasn't "worshipping" the tree, would I balk at giving it up, if necessary to obey the One who gave up His life for me?
I determined that I would give up all the "trappings", and concentrate on giving and remembering the wonder of the gift of the incarnation, with the full knowledge that this was not the ACTUAL birthday of the Messiah. I found that holiday season to be the most peaceful I had ever experienced, and I continued in that fashion for some years. In relinquishing my de facto idol, I learned that my sin was not "worshipping a graven image", but was in allowing my time and attention to be unduly usurped by the rat race of commercialism and trappings, instead of the One that took on flesh.
Nowadays, if I feel like putting up some decorations, I do, with a clear conscience.
Very well stated! Yes indeed, we do not want to make an idol of anyone, or anything, including traditions! Thank you for your testimony. Much love, in Christ Jesus.
@@hewalkswithuseverywhere One more thought on this subject. It seems that part of the Hebrew roots condemnation of the celebration of Christmas, is that YHWH set forth the festivals that Israel was to observe, and that we ought not to observe other, non-moedim, occasions.
It was during the inter-testamental period that the Feast of Dedication was instituted, in memory of the rededication of the temple after the defilement by Antiochus Epiphanes. I find no specific command of YHWH to observe this Feast; yet Jesus DID observe it in John chapter 10.
So on what basis would we be prohibited from participating in cultural holidays (as long as we weren't committing sinful acts in the process)?
All I’ll say is this, since letting the Holy Spirit guide me back to brother jimmy and brother Ken I’ve removed self righteousness and I feel so much more love peace and joy. Praise Jesus glory and blessings to the Heavenly Father forever and ever 🙌❤️
Praise our Lord!!!! Love and hugs to you. The Lord IS ABLE!!!!
IdK about FOJC but NYSTV is a licensed business. If they lose followers/viewers, they lose money that feeds their big family. Its become almost impossible for me to keep Sabbath and Feasts like i used to but i always remember it and keep those days in mind. Its only my elderly mother and myself. Our entire family and community has been turned against us and we are allegedly on a list in which our local authorities have meaning they are hesitant to even come out if we need them because of a property dispute that has been solved legally only because a cousin was coerced and manipulated into signing fraudulent documents to protect a felon/drug addict from being arrested for multiple burglaries of my house right after her mothers death. My uncle thought it to be a good idea for him to take care of my sick elderly aunt who recently passed away. She lived in my house. My uncle wanted her to just sign it over to him after he had already financially abused her for several years. She didnt want to go to jail. We come up with a solution because it was between the two of us only anyway. I bought the rights that she may or may not have had and if so it was my uncles responsibility to pay but we knew he wouldnt. She only wanted enough to pay for her mothers cremation and service. This guy only moved accross the road and is continuously harrassing us and my mother is about to start dialysis. He keeps calling the police making false reports and thats how that list came about while they call it civil my lawyer whob was once a judge calls it criminal. Does my not watching NYSTV as well as others being able to keep Sabbath and feast days during all this mess mean i have fallen away when in reality i have prayed and talked to God while watching those prayers being answered mean i have fallen away? Im struggling just for a little time to read scripture. The enemy has been working against us so very hard but he's not going to win. I Praise God that all of this mess has even brought my mother closer to God. She turned her back to him years ago blaming him for my brothers death. Please keep us in your prayers. Btw, My best friend doesn't believe in flat earth but we dont argue over it. I dont judge him and actually he seems to be questioning things now himself. He cant keep the sabbath or feast days either because he is the only single guy in his family without children and has the responsibility of taking care of the elderly members too.
Praying for you and your family 🙏
Traci, I cannot thank you enough for bringing us up to date.
First off I want to say that I am positive that the Father gives us difficult times because it literally draws us closer to Him.☝🏼👑
So many of us wondered where you went and Jimmy also. I honestly hadn't even noticed the other gentleman had slipped into the background.
I am shocked and flabbergasted at FOJC, NYSTV, underground church, David & Donna Carrico and Jon pounders.
I was obsessed with David's shows a couple years ago and loved everything YOU brought to the programs. I never missed one show.
I have noticed more recently that David is not open to change or a more thorough understanding of the scripture and I haven't watched as religiously in the last several months as a result of the holy Spirit pulling me away.
I always rely on my discernment but I kept trying to pocket the negative feelings I was getting about someone that I respected so much for so long.
David carrico and crew has lost all my respect. I will be unsubbing after I leave a lot of valuable information for other viewers in chat and comments this Saturday!
We ALL need to INSIST that the lies and slander are removed immediately from his page and that he seeks repentance.
IT TURNS OUT HE IS EVERYTHING THAT HE PREACHES AGAINST. AND MORE!
How incredibly disappointing.
I know how hard it was for you to do this video Traci. I couldn't imagine in the beginning why it would take 2 hours to explain why you disconnected from FOJC but after you started peeling back the onion It was very understandable.
Thank you again for your efforts to do what was right. You are very loved and respected by this community.
May our Father in heaven watch over you and yours always. ❤️💕 Love and blessings, sister!!
I have missed seeing you here! Thank you for your kind and truth filled words. This was very difficult. I was sick to my stomach all week, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep. I kept praying "Lord, can this pass from me???" The answer was no, this was needed because there is so much intimidation and bullying that others cannot or will not speak up, or others simply don't have a platform to do so!
Literally, a year ago, I would have been defending them tooth and nail. Finding every which way to excuse every deception, every trace of lacking love, every mistranslated verse in scripture. A year ago, I would have had much anger toward anyone speaking about them, because I myself, had elevated them to a place of importance. That was where the chastening began in me! The Lord humbled me. Even as He was showing me the works of the flesh vs fruit of the Spirit, I didn't want to see it!!! I remember thinking, "but they DO so much for so many online etc." "***they've***brought SO many to the Lord." "***they've*** saved so many people from the traps and snares..." and then, that still small voice whispered in my heart and I heard "I AM THE DOER OF ALL GOOD THINGS!!! IT IS MY HAND THAT HAS SAVED! IT IS MY WORD THAT CONVICTS!!! MY word goes forth and completes what I set it out to do!!! NOT man(kind)! Do NOT give glory to others for MY workings! I can use a donkey if I so choose!!!"
Well, that was it right there. After seeing clearly from making a list of fruit of the Spirit vs works of the flesh, it was clear before my eyes that the works of the flesh far outweighed the fruits.
I am thankful to the Lord for everything He has done. For all He has guided our steps into AND away from. It's good to see you again.
Much love, in Christ Jesus.
I agree with you. They also came against Stephen Pidgeon. That was a big turnoff.
Tracy, I have not fallowed you closely as I have NYSTV and FOJC. However, lately I have begun to see and hear some disturbing manipulation and backhanded commenting when referring to other people not involved in their "messaging". I don't know if Jon realizes what he is doing or how it is being taken by many of us long time listeners. It has become at times "mutual admiration society" amongst themselves. I judge no one because I am a sinful man.
We are warned in scripture against becoming "important in the eyes of man, whether one wants or seeks it is the path of destruction. I will say that unknowingly they have slipped into the trap and I will be praying for them for they are my brothers and slipping away knowingly or not. God bless you Tracy and calm down." Be not conformed to this world nor to its dainties" " my words" And I say to have a for profit llc that runs on folks being duped into "volunteering" their time and energy because of their faith, is what it is. Conforming to the world and it's deceptive practices. I am not shocked but surprised to hear the ownership of what they advertise as nothing more than a sponsor. Interesting.......
But I know of no "ministry" that becomes widespread NOT becoming corrupt with small stuff first but ALWAYS falling deeper and deeper.
Again, I will pray for them to REPENT just as they preach. May God have mercy on them.
Amen. I am praying for them as well. Thank you for commenting and listening.
@ Captain, you are a wise man. God bless you and keep you brother. 💕👍🏻
amen!
The wool was pulled over my eyes, too. I believed David and Jon. I'm so disappointed in them. Why not just tell the truth? After all we are all sinners saved by grace. Thank you Traci, for speaking out. It can't have been easy.
Praise the Lord for opening our eyes to see and our ears so we can hear what His Holy Spirit says. I'm thankful the Lord gives us strength and courage. It's only in Him this could be brought out. God will not be mocked! He will not share HIS glory with any human. To God be ALL glory, honor and praise!!! Much love to you, in Christ.
I first came across NYSTV in 2017. At the time, the channel featured many interesting guests and topics. Having recently returned to the faith, I had a strong desire to understand the full counsel of the scriptures, particularly the OT, which I felt had been neglected in my upbringing. And I sincerely desired to understand and obey what the Father expected of me.
In time, the Holy Spirit led me away from my attempts to fulfill the ritual law. I am not here to argue that point; if the conscience of a brother or sister in Christ leads him/her to observe sabbaths and dietary laws, I would be at peace with them.
But there was a red flag in a teaching by David Carrico that caused me to "proceed with caution" when watching NYSTV. I do not remember the date or title of the teaching - it was probably at least 5 years ago. David was discussing the Sabbath as God's seal. I do not remember his exact words, but the bottom-line implication (as I understood him) was that the keeping of the Sabbath was God's mark of ownership; therefore, if you weren't keeping the Sabbath, you would not be sealed (Rev 7:3 “Don’t harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we seal the slaves of our God on their foreheads.")
That, to me, smacks of a different gospel.
Not long afterward, NYSTV became extremely insular. No more interviews/discussions with outside parties. I was unconvinced by their flat earth stance. My interest waned as it began to seem more cultish to me. I have been watching it so infrequently that I was totally unaware of you, Traci.
I think the biggest shock of what you presented here was the SOAP! I can attest that Sugar 'N Spice was introduced to the viewers as a couple of ladies who had started a small business, and as fans of the show, wished to sponsor it as an advertisement. There was never so much as a hint that this was one of Jon's family businesses. I did order soap from them, more than once, and liked it, and gave it away as gifts. And I would still have ordered if they had been up-front about the company ownership. But I won't order again, knowing that I was intentionally misled.
Praise the Lord for eyes to see and ears to hear!!! The Lord IS faithful and true!
Traci, you are not alone. 🍂☕️ If I can assure you of anything, let it be that. I noticed a significant change over the last year or so, on their end- but you're handling it with remarkable grace, so I will keep my observations to myself for now. I'm only halfway through, but you and your daughter are already in my prayers. 🍂
We are truly thankful for the prayers, and for others who give witness to these things which have been made known by the light of Jesus Christ!!! Much love to you, in Christ our Lord.
I don't watch FOJC that much. Just here and there. I'm sorry that this has happened to you. I have watched NYSTV for 5 years.
It seems like any time Jon has anyone other than David on a broadcast, the new person is ripped on by David and never seen again. Very sad. I don't agree with everything they say. I still watch the midnight ride on Sunday mornings.
But you have brought some much needed information to light, and I really appreciate that.
Thank you so much! Blessings to you and your daughter. It isn't easy to stand up against this type of treatment.
I appreciate your comment sister. Thank you for taking time to listen. I'm thankful that others are now able to share their experiences and what they have discerned by the Holy Spirit. Praise the Lord for confirmation for all who were seeking it. Much love, in Christ Jesus. Romans 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
I love you Traci and Brett and I care for Jimmy. I pray for you all. When your beliefs contradict the WORD, you have fallen away. Gen. 6 is clear. The sabbath is forever and the New Testament church was keeping the feasts. This is so sad.
Sister Sherrie, if you read the KJV version, I figure so...you'll notice nowhere no where do the authors use the word forever but instead for ever. Look into the meaning as to why they have separated this out into for then ever. They knew exactly what they were doing when they did this. Denying Jesus Christ is falling away sister. It took me awhile to see clearly. I, likewise, will be in prayer for you sis. It's difficult when people we have respected see things a completely different way and when we have (for so very long) believed their teaching. I was adamant about these things. Sabbath keeping (the way the 7th day and Jewish orthodox and others) teach it, as a requirement...and the feasts of the Lord are all incorrectly being pressed upon others as a salvation issue...along with biblically eating clean. I keep a set apart day unto the Lord simply because it's in my heart to do so. Which part of the feasts and the sabbath should we keep then??? There are very specific outlines laid out in the OT how one is to celebrate each and every one of these. Are any of us doing those by the book? If so, it requires us to go to the Holy Land. What gives us the authority, anywhere in scripture, then to choose which portions of the legal side to these observances we follow? Who made anyone else the determiner of which portions are for us, and which aren't for us? I have know certain people who preach forward this strict observance, but then go take people out to eat (at a restaurant where others must work) on the sabbath day and say "well, it's okay to do good on the sabbath." Still more, eating marshmallows up until very recently while condemning pork eaters on air. There's a lot more than meets the eye. I believe the bible. I believe what Jesus has told us. Ephesians 2:13-18 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
According to the word of God, if we do the law in part, and not in full, we curse ourselves. Not doing it in full means not doing it in full. Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. There are over 100 verses in the New Testament (that's why it is called new testament) 2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. The word testament=G1242 dee-ath-ay'-kay; from G1303; properly, a disposition, i.e. (specially) a contract (especially a devisory will):-covenant, testament. This was OUR MESSIAH's DYING WILL left for US to find this FREEDOM IN HIM!!!! His blood matters. His FINISHED work upon the cross of calvary MATTERS!!! And dear sister, YOU matter!!!!
@@hewalkswithuseverywhere my spirit is grieved for you. All I can do is pray and trust Holy Spirit will bring us into agreement in His Word. There are many New Testament verses that show them keeping the sabbath and the feasts. (Not sacrificing animals). Sin is transgression of THE LAW. Forever and in all your generations means forever. We will be keeping it in the new Jerusalem. Sukkot is the marriage supper of the Lamb. I love you.
They kept the feasts/sabbath while Jesus was with them on earth still...He hadn't finished the work upon the cross, yet! Do you love Jesus Christ??? have YOU been born again???? Do you do all you can to uphold and follow the moral law of the Lord. Matthew 22:35-40 (the word lawyer here, was literally a teacher of the LAW) Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. The word HANG here is G2910 and it means used of the Law and the Prophets, is ***summed up or hanging on two precepts.*** This is the WHOLE of the matter. Simplicity IN CHRIST. The BLOOD OF THE LAMB.
I appreciate your care, stating you grieve for me sister, but I'm calling bologna on that. You never come here to chat, or fellowship. You are here to back-up your golden calves. If you, or any of them, truly cared, they would have tried to reach out to any of the 3 of us they have now defamed publicly on their website. I'm not in division against the true believers and followers of my Lord and savior Jesus Christ, I AM against professors of the word, but not doers. And until the Lord returns or calls me home sis, I will continue to call out the lies in hypocrisy and the deceptions, as the Lord leads me to do so.
Repent and believe the gospel. Everybody needs Jesus. Only Jesus can save and change lost sinners. Jesus wins and the devils lose be on Jesus's side.
Jesus uttered, “Tetelestai”. This is truly my favorite word. It is finished. Period.
AMEN!!!! Period. YES!
This sounds like the ugliness of cult behaviors !
I have noticed this behavior over the past few months as I watch their videos.
David's shocking attacks on ppl, which contradicts scriptures, to love your neighbor !
You can disagree with the opinions of others, but to attack them in such a hateful , vile manner has been shocking to watch !
I pray for you and Zoe ! May God Bless, heal, comfort and protect you from the evil you have experienced !
We will always welcome you back home in TN !! God Bless you both !
God bless you too. Thank you so much for the kind invitation! We are certainly not opposed to moving! Please do keep us in prayer! It's a joy to serve the Lord...and I trust Him more each day. He will have His plans and purposes fulfilled in our lives...by way of any and all situations. I praise the Lord for His protection and strength. Thank you for sharing the gift of discernment you have been given, and standing also as another witness bearing record.
I had never heard of you until today when this video came across my feed. Wow. I am excited to watch your videos.
I have to mention....if we have hate for our brother, the scriptures tell us that we do not know God. I know that you do not have hate from just listening to this video. I agree with you. ❤
Thankful to see you here. Hope you are encouraged and edified! It's good to "meet" you sister.
@@hewalkswithuseverywhereit is so good to meet you too !
I've left the bells and whistles behind for the most part...sometimes I still do more in depth studies and will have slides etc like I did over on the SNlives but my desire is FREEDOM in Jesus Christ and to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ!!! I appreciate you listening sister.
I'm one of the people that found your channel through NYSTV. Grateful that I did.
Godspeed Traci.
Thank you Lord for all the brethren the Lord has made divine appoints for and with! Many thanks.
Thank you, Tracy, for coming forward and presenting actual evidences, it is much appreciated, needed and necessary for the Bretheren to hear and see the truth, as it's "The LOVE of the TRUTH that sets us FREE".
Much love and blessings 💕
thank you for the loving words. Such true words indeed! Love you, in His love. (((hugs)))
I feel betrayed....
Because they are deceivers. It can't be denied
I'm sorry you feel betrayed. I understand those feelings. Sending love and prayers for healing by the very truth and word of God. He comforts the broken-hearted and gives strength to us when we are weak. I appreciate you listening, and sharing.
Hi Traci, nice to meet you.♡ I received this notification probably because of the title. From my remembrance, I have never seen you in a video, heard your voice (until this video), or known of your association with NYSTV or FOJC. I enjoy and have had my eyes opened and found answers to questions from David, Jon, and Brian and will continue to listen to them. With that being said publicly, I look forward to listening and learning from your channel as well if you don't mind me being here. Had no idea of what has happened but know our God will take care of everything. Sending you love and praying for your channel and all your righteous endeavors. God bless you and yours.
🕊🙏🏻♡ ~ Cheryl
Have a blessed day and upcoming week, Traci. 🙏🏻
You as well! Thank you for listening to the matter and for allowing the Holy Spirit to direct you in your ways. You're welcome here, in the love of Jesus Christ!
@hewalkswithuseverywhere
Nice to know. Thank you to my new Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus.
I’m ever so Grateful you are you!!!!!thank u for allowing truth again 😢 people who get hurt should just say OUCH !!!! Again I don’t feel well I can’t believe this🌹🌹🌹🌹
Love you sister. I know you've walked through some fires. (((hugs)))
God bless you Tracy❤❤ we love you🎉
Love you too sister! Thank you for listening.
Peace be with with you Tracii🙏Stand strong on HIS word, Yah bless you ❤
Thank you sister. And you!!! Much love, in Christ our Lord.
They have broken up with so many people now. Hope you feel better soon.
Thank you! I'm feeling much better than a year ago! It's been a journey, but I'm thankful for all of it. I've learned a lot through it all, and the most important thing that happened, is it brought me back to the simplicity in Christ Jesus!
Simplicity of Christ… Amen sister!! Love it! There is a peace that surpasses all understanding in it 🕊️
Freedom from bondage in Christ 🙌
Wow Traci! Talk about timing. I’ve been backing away from watching them for a while now, not knowing why, especially nystv. You presented this beautifully in a way I know pleased our Lord.❤ I think it’s just things the way they were said rather than exactly what they were saying has been bothering me. I wondered why you left but never saw or heard anything. The title of this caught my attention and I’m glad I watched it. I apologize for being all over the place and back and forth. Thank You Sister for all the information you lovingly shared!❤️🙏
No apologies needed sister. Thank you for taking time to post and I truly appreciate your kind words. Much love to you, in Christ Jesus, our Lord.
Thank you for sharing, God bless you ✝❤
Thank you for listening!
@@hewalkswithuseverywhere NYSTV and FOJC were some of the channels i watched a lot after God woke me up and guided me to the truth, after +30 years away from Him. I liked many of the topics they talk about, nephilim, giants, and whatever (all the things the catholic church i was born in didn't talk about, which i would have absolutely loved to hear about when i was a kid and would have kept me closer to God instead of doing bad things for that long 😅)
But over the last months i've been less and less interested in their videos, some things they say started to feel wrong in my spirit and you addressed some of it in this video, for example like how they keep insisting about people should stop to celebrate Christmas, we get it, the tree and balls and all that is pagan around that date, but I don't think any Christian celebrating Christmas do it to worship Saturn or whatever other god... but decorate, hang lights and put a nativity scene in their house to celebrate the birth of Jesus ❤
Also i find it disgusting that they would put your name on their website and say you fell away.
Anyhow, I know you're genuine and I love how you talked about Dismas the penitent thief, saying God could have stopped time and made him keep a sabbath and things like that, which is absolutely true, and something i often mention too 😄
Anyhow, enough rambling, I wish you the very best, God is amazing, all the glory to Him, can't wait for Him to come back cause it's getting crazy down here ✝
@@Owdaks Amen and amen! It is next level cray around this earth!!! But our God is so much bigger than any weapon formed against us! All praise to His Holy name! Much love dear believer, in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Anyone in this movement absolutely hates when you turn back to the love and grace of Jesus Christ.
Traci, I arrived in Perry County very shortly after you and Zoe. My first experience with the ministry (only a few days after moving there) was being cajoled into attending a Matthew 18 at the P. B. It was a witch hunt organized by a woman close to Donna. It was an awful experience.
I am free from the people who brought me there, but I’m still recovering from the spiritual abuse, financial loss & emotional damage.
Thank you so much for standing up and speaking truth against this cult.
I am truly sorry for the hurts you have gone through! I'm not sure if we got to meet one another, but welcome you to email me! it's this channel name @gmail.com Thank you for being a witness to this record. It's so difficult to see when you don't want to see...but when the Lord opens our eyes? It's true deliverance and freedom!!! Praise the Lord for His great mercy and grace!!! Much love to you, in Christ our Lord.
@@truthpilgrim I believe that Donna Mae is practicing witchcraft- We fasted for her when David called one- They must repent! Praise Him on High!
Also where did John Hall and his wife go?
Poof- sounds like wickedness abounds! We also miss Jimmy!!
@@harobedasenathCan you elaborate as to why you think Donna is practicing witchcraft? That's a very serious and scary accusation.
Also I have been seriously turned off a few shows from both nystv and Fojc that delved way too much into evil occultic things. Such as the opening of the mouth episodes. Very demonic and I do not see why David would go into so much detail about this ritual or the purpose behind it. It felt wrong in my spirit to listen to these shows in particular having to do with the book of the dead and rituals. Oh and Jon Hall and his wife lost there TH-cam channel about 2 years ago but I believe they made another channel (?) this year. But I believe they are still on rumble. I think Jon might still moderate for them in live shows too. I'm not sure.
@@blankmission5369she isn’t saying anyone was practicing witchcraft. A witch hunt means that someone is being targeted unfairly.
@jasm760, it was in response to the comment directly below given by @harobedasenath
I think David was pulled into John’s schemes. He never sponsors or ask for anything and simply closes out with thanks for those who pray and support the channel. John opens with sponsors (apparently his own company) and pushes T-shirts and coffee mugs. Get that trash out of my church I count it all but dung.
All Glory to Jesus Amen 💪😎🙏❤️🕊🌳
Some just have different ways of disguising what they're doing...via...way of others. Some aren't so much interested in the merch and sales and such, but more with the honor of men and power. I've seen some leaders in the world much this way.
Oh yes..and the advertisement about putting people in the hamburger...was way over the top...I wouldn't even turn into the program until I knew that had already played...🙄😁
1 John 2:7 "Beloved, I am writing you NO NEW commandment, but an OLD commandment that you had from the beginning. The OLD commandment is the word that you have heard from the beginning...😮
I am heart-broken to learn of this....... thank you for sharing xxx
Prayers for all hearts and minds to heal, and for us to be strengthened in our walk. May our discernment grow even more by each experience and opportunity to learn. Many thanks to you for listening.
Thank you for your boldness and grace you displayed presenting this info . As for Mr Ponders I recognize his ego and pride and pray Father corrects him. I have also wondered where you went ! And am so sorry you had to go thru all this however we count it all joy when we are put to the test and go thru such trials and lessons taught and learned thry Holy Spirit ! You are a beautiful woman of God and I discern you are led by Holy Spirit and as you said not about pleasing man but the Father! Praying your needs are meant and for your protection ! And that no weapon formed shall prosper may the Blood of Jesus cover you his wall of fire encircle and protect you and Zoey and he releases his Holy warring angels to minister , lead and guide you in Jesus name! I love that you go in depth when you share what you have learned ! You put much time and effort into your messages that's apparent!!And I watch Jimmy and Ken I love that they are using proper hermeneutics and scripture to interlret scripture! And that David and John wont even listen to what they are saying just further reveals they are stiff necked and unteachable in this season ! I dont agree 100 with any human , I eat the meat and spit out the bones and trust Holy Spirit to lead me into truth! God Bless ya sweet lady!
It is only the grace of God that has allowed me to present these facts. I pray for conviction and for blind eyes to be open and captives to be set free in all ways, in Jesus Christ's name!
I have been a listener with fojc and NYSTV for many years,2016, I have seen a lot of changes in the ministry. I’m saddened that they are moving further away from the doctrine and into more shows. I never watched them for a show. I wanted to have someone to read and study the Bible with. Gal 3 states the many truths that I try to live by.
Galatians 3:1-5 (it's a great chapter in full to read!!! They ALL are!) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
I understand that many beliefs aren’t agreed upon by all and that it is not and should not be a salvation issue or cause divisions. What I see is several people with reputable ministries being bad mouthed by these two fellows who are the common factor in all the divisions. That tells me all I need to know. Bless you Traci.
Well stated sister. I appreciate your comment and taking time to listen to the matter.
The Jonathan Kleck channel has totally blown them out of the water. Truth is Truth of you can't handle it, that is sadly your problem. Go to GOD 🙏❤ Thank you Sister for your Courage ❤🙏
all thanks to the Lord for the courage and strength!!! We serve an awesome and wonderful God, who has the perfect timing in all things!
This reminds me of Jehova witnesses. If you decide to leave for whatever reason your disfellowshipped and publicly denounced as a damned soul that fell away.
Also.... I’ve been reluctant to watch either John or Dave over the last several months because I’ve felt something wasn’t right. Only way I can describe it is a gut feeling.
Look forward to hearing what our Heavenly Father has put on your heart sister🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
You're so very right in the comparison to JW. I appreciate your comment and praise the Holy Spirit for discernment that He has given you and so many others! Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. There were over 40 witnesses to what I shared in the live chat alone. The matter has been established. Much love to you.
How about 5 years ago after listening to Dave carrico one Christmas I didn't want to celebrate because I thought it was evil but such a Darkness came over me and me and my wife and then I listen to a message from Dean odle that Release Me From that Darkness and since then even with David's condemning of people who don't follow the law I was really turned off John pounder seems to be a very unhappy person so I moved on thank you Tracy
Praise the Lord for your rekindled FREEDOM in JESUS CHRIST!!!! AMEN AMEN!!!
The faith should be patient and aim for shared goals. There are no difference in the word. We all should share the love and joy in each other on this world that God has made for all of us. Peace be with each and everyone. There is room for every view point you dont have to agree just Love.
WOW!!! It is a very personal journey and more importantly-relationship- between Heaenly Father and ourselves.....
amen!!! Thank you for sharing.
It is so good to never let go of your roots. I had to grab onto those roots many times. The Holy Spirit is so trustworthy. Tracy the joy of the Lord is your strength. ❤
So very true!!! The Holy Spirit gives us discernment...that nudge toward truth...the nudge letting us know something is off. We then have the choice to heed such warnings from our loving Abba, or to quench the Holy Spirit. Forgive me Lord for having so often over the last several years, quenched the Holy Spirit.
@@hewalkswithuseverywhere bless your humble heart. Lots of love. Let your restoration be sweet. He will take care of you.
amen and amen. (((hugs))) and much love to you as well, in Christ.
Oh, I left social media, but I was not impressed with the fellowship group and a certain couple that had been very involved. I enjoyed your work with David, and I never cared for the fellowship group(s) on Facebook. I was needing fellowship and that's not what I found. Never had so much "critical" self righteous interactions with people I had wanted to claim as my family in christ. That's not the way ministry or fellowship is done. After that I went through a lot of challenging things, and could've been a lost sheep... if not for the Holy Spirit. I thought I was too far gone, and I felt urged to pray and GRIEVE. Next day I heard it clearly, "repent and you and your household will be saved". That's the LOVE of our Savior. He does come and call us back because He loves us. The last thing we need is the people who represent Him treating people like garbage. I saw they brought a person who did not seem to even have the Holy Spirit, and I couldn't watch those shows. I had wondered if it was truly THEM lacking discernment rather than me not being good enough. That makes me sad... I hope they have ears to hear and sort this out because this fruit is not good.
Praise the Lord for holding you tightly with His power and might! I’m truly sorry you were hurt by these groups and people who certainly have applied themselves to the work and practices of the Pharisees of Jesus day. The same ones who nailed Him to the cross.
I'm not surprised with this. I've had my suspicions of them for a while and have been waiting for the Holy Spirit to have it be revealed. Thank you for doing so.
All glory to God! Thankful that the Lord has His hand upon all who are His, and that He loves us enough to carry us into ALL truth!
I liked how you explained yourself and you did it with class and scripture. I subbed. ❤️
Glad you're here! I had commented last night, but my comment vanished. Many thanks for your encouragement as well!
It’s 10:00 here and immmmm sendinggggg hugssssssss
you are no worm Traci, you are a daughter of The Most High. love and Blessing to you and your daughter.
thank you dear brother. Psalm 22:6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
@@hewalkswithuseverywhere wow thank you, now i understand : ) i fit right in there. thanks i feel i received a bit of a Blessing.
Praise His name!!!! Much love to you!!!!
I stopped listening to them about a year ago
Thank you for listening and commenting.
Me too ❤
Same here, and much happier with much more peace not hearing so many evil topics.. There’s Peace in Jesus! ❤️ 👑 ❤️
woooow, this is very strong, dear sister, yet not surprising... thank you ❤
Thank you for listening and commenting!
Our brothers and sisters in Christ all grow at different levels & times(as ourselves), so arguing has no purpose or fruit, not to mention the love commandment from Jesus should be kept at the top of all evaluations, we aren’t the judge & that is His business not ever ours, each to his own salvation…..we all are soon to experience a threadbare (alone with only Jesus) relationship in Christ which isn’t going to be easy, though so very rewarding….I’ve been alone in Christ for many years now & NYSTV & related ministries was topping my list for spiritual food & recently connected with others who follow these ministries, I’m hoping for positive outcomes & not division or pain….just when we having a tendency to keep any human beings or ministries in too high a regard these issues pop up, reminding me to keep our focus on Him & none other of flesh….Have always loved your heart for the Lord sister, total forgiveness is paramount & hopefully all residue from this experience will subside & healing love of Him will prevail always, thx for sharing ❤
Amen. It's been almost a year, and while it's taken a good bit of time, I can say the healing has come. I have examined my heart to make sure there is no bitterness or root of anything springing up that is outside His will. Only Jesus! He IS the focus. Everything else is secondary to Him. Thank you for your comment, and for listening!
TRUTH! Thank you for bringing all contained in this video to LIGHT!
Praise God for His mighty hand!!
I was brought to this by Father. I do not let women teach me as it is Written. I agree they should Repent and Remove this from their page. I stopped listening to any DOC with a Women. I still listen to Jimmy and Dave's old videos. I will wait for them to remove this Falling Away and a Repentance. I do not celebrate the Sabbath Day Jesus is my Peace every day. Food I eat all in Prayer with no Conviction. Love you Sister and Pray Father will correct this for you three. Shalom and all Blessings, Fathers Will be Done Amen
Thank you for listening, and for leaving this comment. I stand in agreement in Jesus name! I am praising the Lord that others have a place to stand as witness and share their experiences first hand, and through discernment of what they have gone through. I believe there will be much healing, because that's who our great and mighty God IS! Jehovah Rapha!!!
A few months ago, I realized that you were no longer on FOJC and I found it odd that you were there and then you weren’t. As soon as it was 23 shows and you were not there I knew something must’ve happened and ever since then it pops into my head probably once or twice every couple weeks or so so I’m so happy to see that you came Into the public speaker words and your side. I’m just starting this video so I haven’t listen to it but for somebody to come forward into the public and tell her side takes a lot of courage so here we go and I will listen to the rest of it now. God bless you, and may the Holy Spirit carry you and may healing from both sides be obtained
Thank you lady of grace in The Jesus Christ for telling us the truth blessings to you and beautiful family ❤❤❤
Thank you for listening and taking time to comment. Much love to you, in Christ our Lord.
If you do meet or talk with them, please insist on a companion or witness ( not your daughter). Thank you for your vulnerability. I'm so sad to hear these things. Interestingly, I have been pulling away from both groups (FOJC & NYSTV) for the past 6 months not because of personal interactions but because of doctrinal differences. They seem to major on a lot of minor issues. Your testimony is my confirmation.
Praise the Lord for bringing confirmation! Much love to you, in Christ our Lord. Yes, absolutely, a witness or 2 or 20!
What you've revealed is hypocrisy. I understand now why Holy Spirit told me to stop my donations. I thought it was a ministry and I've sent quite a bit of money to FOJC through Amazon gift cards . I now cancelled my membership. Thank you for the work you've done to reveal the truth.
Thank you for sharing here with us all. The Lord will have His perfect way in our lives as soon as we're ready to allow Him to guide us into ALL truth. (((hugs)))
I agree with you Traci! You spoke the truth in love. God is merciful and long suffering. ❤
I thank the Lord for setting a watch about my lips and guiding my words through it all. On my own, in my own strength...I would fail. Praise Jesus!
Thank you for a very loving and concise discussion. Several things they have said I felt the same things and I too was having thoughts about the soap company. They have come across as very prideful and so many things I don’t agree with them on eschatology as you have felt. I thought many times wow we don’t need to be so prideful and hateful it’s all about Jesus! God does get all the glory and we all need to love one another and study the word ourselves and ask the Holy Spirit for guidance,
Thank you for listening to it. I appreciate your comment and sharing with us all.
I remember watching an episode re:Christmas.. David clearly asserted himself on the throne of God & said if you celebrate this holiday, you’re going to hell.
I canceled my sub to NYSTV after that. It was an episode with Dan Bidondi. My husband heard him say this and we both thought wow, how bold to say such a thing. I’m pretty sure that’s not the unpardonable sin.
I applaud you for standing up. Had I known earlier that they were the exact corporations/501c3 they constantly tell people to RUN away from, I would have walked away earlier.
Hearing David speak so nasty about women who have remarried really didn’t set well with me either. Considering I’m remarried after being in an abusive relationship for several years.
I’m thankful you spoke up, don’t let the comments of their followers bother you. It’s clear they aren’t happy if anyone wants to think for themselves, or let The Holy Spirit lead you with your own discernment of His Word. It’s the Doctrine of Christ, not the Doctrine of Carrico & Pounders. One last thought, I remember a lot of intro videos saying Sugar & Spice was being promoted because it was a company of a widow they wanted to help??? I’m talking about 2-3 years with of videos saying that.
Praying for you Tracy, you’re doing what’s right ❤
I am truly thankful to the Holy Spirit, to the gift of discernment!!! It took me longer than it should have, I glossed over much, I excused much...I stood in the counsel of the Lord and held fast to having great grace, laying things down, letting much go....until it became overwhelmingly clear that it wasn't once, or twice, or 3, 4 or even 5 times, but regularly there were works of the flesh much more prevalent than the fruit of the spirit. And boy did I kick against the prick as it were. I didn't want to step away. I didn't want to see what I was seeing. I didn't want to admit I had kind of put them upon a pedestal and I myself was guilty of idolatry. Once I repented for having done that, all else was made clear, and the scales and spell I was under was broken off by the power of His might. Thank you for sharing your testimony in here and bearing witness to the Holy Spirit. Much love to you and yours, in Christ our Lord.
Sister Tonya, for the last day I have sat here to respond to your comment about “ sugar and spice”. I want you to know that your memory of this ….is SPOT ON! I even went to support the soap because of who they saw it belongs to. I don’t know why they lied… only they know. Is it the love of money? I just wanted you to know that you are not wrong. I too supported the NYSTV monthly, even though the money went to them out of my need. Trying to tell you, I only receive a little over $900. Per month and no food stamps. I am and have been unable to work since I was in my 40s. I am closer to 65 years old now. I gave for many YEARS to NYSTV out of my need. It was 2 months ago that I quit paying monthly to NYSTV. God bless you sister. 💕👍🏻👊🏻
May our great provider and heavenly Father give to you all you have need of. He IS our provider sister!!! Everything is from Him. It's a true gift just to know we are in heavenly places with Christ Jesus our Lord. We each, will be held accountable for everything we have said and done. What's done in secret will be brought into the light, and it WILL bring our Father in heaven glory!!!! Thank you for sharing your testimony and allowing others to receive confirmation by your sharing. (((hugs)))
Judgement begins in the house of God. It's coming to us all. I hope you heal from this soon. Many of us have been hurt the most by so called Christians.
amen. Healing has come through time and the Lords gentle hand! I am sorry to hear of the hurts you have endured in your walk. We can all do better to be not only hearers of the word, but doers!!! I pray many are set free, in Jesus Christ's name.
When you SUDDENLY disappeared it felt like a punch in the stomach. It made us question
the integrity of the “groups.” I viscerally felt your tears and agony right after the separation- it didn’t make sense! Frankly I lost trust especially in the Carricos.
It has been a journey of healing and growth. I'm truly thankful for the Lord's patience and longsuffering with each of us as we walk this out. I'm thankful for His correction. I love His word. I love sharing His word. Much love and appreciation to you for bearing witness.
First of all Traci you're glowing you look beautiful😊 My heart is heavy and saddened actually. I loved watching your Sunday night live. I would have to say based on the evidence and what you say and shown that without question YOU ARE RIGHT😢
Thank you for the sweet compliment. I certainly don't care to be right, but I care about truth and shining a light into dark places. Thanks for listening and commenting.
YAHUAH AND HIS SON NEVER RAN A CORPORATION . PART OF THE REASON I LEFT THE BRICK AND MORTOR STORES .
amen!
Spiritual communism and shaming is common in chartered churches, 501c3's, businesses, etc.
unfortunately, you're correct. It's happening far and wide. Lord, give us discernment to see truth in all things with everyone!!!
Wow. I'm astounded. I enjoyed there shows but I always felt some kind of negativity and division from them and this shows me I should have listened to my gut. Thank you so much for the information I just unsubscribed from both channels and will no longer be supporting them. You seem very sincere and heartfelt, something I don't feel from them. The hypocrisy has me stunned with the soaps and everything. Just wow.
Praying the Lord does what only He can in hearts and minds. Thank you for hearing this out and for taking time to share your feelings.
@hewalkswithuseverywhere your doing the right thing...they do have a big channel and people will stay with them but things like that always fall apart on there own...you did what u should have and thank you!
I stopped listening to them about 6 months ago
Prayers for heart to be softened and eyes to be opened, in Jesus name.
Woe to the world for offenses.. I am going to continue to keep the feast and the Sabbath as I have kept them for years however I am thrilled that you have brought these things to the light I do not want to cut anyone off however this does give me a bigger list of people to pray for repentance for I have family members who do not keep Torah I have family members who are in the lgbtq community I have family members who keep Christmas and Easter and I have written none of them off in fact when I heard that being done I rebuked it because I refuse to not show my family the love of Jesus Christ thank you so much for bringing some of these issues to light it's very sad that there is deception behind the scenes I am heartbroken I will continue to pray for you and yours me and mine and all the members and listeners of the other programs.
Hey there I just watched this video. Just wanted to iencourage you. I had pulled away from them some time ago. My spirit was not being fed by them any more. I still worship on Sabbath and have lots of friends who worship on Sunday. I agree that we as the believing community need to put personal view aside and agree to disagree and we cannot see anyone soul. God is the Judge and we just need tostep back and love and believe in the word of God. We need community and the deveil knows that. I felt for some time now that they were going down rabbit holes that were pointless and seemed to me that they were trying to step apart from anyone that didn't follow them. I just want to serve the Lord and not judge because I will be judged with that same measure. I have enough issues that God is trying to get me to change. So it is with a heavy heart for you but, I'm happy you called them out too. Love you sister in Christ Jesus
Much love to you too sister. I'm believing God for all things and am thankful you shared what the Holy Spirit has given to you in way of discernment. I pray this helps others find healing and confirmation!!! Much love to you as well, in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Did Creator cancel all Commandments or just Fourth?😮
Exudos 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day-keep it holy.
The difference in the mosaic/ceremonial law and that of moral law is an awesome study. Highly recommend! I'm not saying people shouldn't or can't observe a set apart day.
As a former student of Protestantism, who has now reverted back to Catholicism, I used to follow FOJC and NYSTV. David always gave me a feeling of a cult leader. You and Jimi on the other hand I always felt were truly trying to do the Lords work.
I’ll pray for David and Donna and Jon. I’ll also pray for you and Jimi that the Lord protect you and your families. God bless ❤
I truly appreciate you sharing your experience, and thank you for your prayers for all involved. There are many marks of a cult (they have a pdf of this very thing) and once you see, you can't unsee. Much love, in Christ our Lord. I hope to see you here in the future. I would throw caution on any religion...when I was born again, the Lord made it clear to me that the way leading to eternal life has nothing to do with religion...it IS about faith, hope, belief and love in God. It's all about the blood of Jesus and repentance of our sins, placing all our hope in what He did freely for us. (((hugs)))
Hiya Muriel
I pray you come out of Rome
Catholicism is a cult itself
True name sakes DONT ELEVATE HUMANS especially DEAD HUMANS …right there should be witness enough to RUN
Your leader has blasphemed all over the place
•Wants to baptize ALIENS
•Claims all roads lead to THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISAAC AND JACOB
•Claims unless we go through Mary we are not heard
•Changed words in the Lord’s Prayer
Not to mention ALL the atrocities that the cult has perpetrated on children and cultures
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Revelation 22
THIS IS NOT JESUS BEING DISRESPECTFUL HE JUST KNEW WHAT ROME WOULD DO TO HIS MESSAGE
“And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.”-JESUS
I hope you get to your Psalms 91 and do business with Jesus asking Him who’s who and what’s what
Faith believes Jesus hears our prayers
Faith believes Jesus answers them
🙏
I do understand. I also know that it takes the mighty hand of the Lord to bring anyone where they need to be. This listener has heard all of this from the other groups, I'm certain, as her words indicate. My hope is to shine a light on this from a different approach...as the other approach was not successful, in fact, it pushed her toward it. Ephesians 2:1-5 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Those who are on these paths, we were once on. I was a born again lover of the Lord, but I wasn't mature in my faith yet. I was on spiritual milk. Not saying that is the case here, only that, we don't know. We share the gospel with all in hopes of saving some... having great love for them as Christ has shown us. Thank you.
@@hewalkswithuseverywhereI would love to have a discussion with you about Catholicism one day 😊
email me sis!!! (((hugs)))
Ty Traci.
Have a question, i live in California and have all my life. My older sister says sge will buy me a house , in Indiana, if i move there.
Is Indiana and good place , to live?
From what I've seen outside of this experience, it's a great place to live! I miss the rivers, oceans, mountains hiking etc. but this state is pretty decent! It can get super humid in the summertime, and some cold winters...but it depends on if you're northern or southern Indiana. Thank you for listening and commenting.
Ty for your answer & thank you for the current information.
I have two major concerns about The Carricos: #1- Why do they tolerate the evil spirit of gluttony to run rampant in their bodies? Derek Prince says this is an evil spirit that brings others with it- such as jealousy, anger, infirmity etc- spirits travel in gangs.
#2. Why does David keep such an extensive (thousands) collection of Demonic Books and constantly vocalize the evil one’s names? You become what you behold- They should be burnt as it says in Acts 19:19!! We were concerned for you, Traci when you said you were READING the ZOHAR!
I pray that we all FAST and come to repentance- SHALOM- I love the Shabbat and I believe keeping Satan’s holidays is repugnant to YAH.
I completely understand what you're concerns are. I'm thankful for the Lord pulling me from "deep dives" into those other pagan, occultic works. I thought it was a way to glorify the Lord by sharing their falsehoods....I was so wrong. I ask for forgiveness for any I ignorantly and foolishly led to any of those works of the enemy. It weighs heavily upon me.
AMEN to repent and pray and fast! Thank you for listening and commenting. We haven't and aren't following the worlds celebrations, and we do keep a day as unto the Lord...I'm just finally free from guilting and shaming and puffing myself up against those who aren't in that place in their walk...knowing it wasn't so long ago that I too was in such a place. Much love, in Christ Jesus.
@@hewalkswithuseverywhereAmen!❤
I felt convicted to address the gluttony concern. We must must be very carely not to fall into judgement over ones weight. My adopted mom was overweight her whole life, yet she was one of the most healthy eaters I've ever known. Her weight affected her ability to exercise and move around, making much of the weight stay upon her. While she would sometimes partake of fast food (more than perhaps was healthy), it wasn't due to a gluttony issue. She never over ate. When looking into gluttonous G5314 definition, voracious is the only word that came up for a definition. This word means: Greedy for eating; ravenous; very hungry; as a voracious man or appetite. 2. Rapacious; eager to devour; as voracious animals. 3. Ready to swallow up; as a voracious gulf or whirlpool. I never saw this sort of thing with anyone you have mentioned. I used to be called sickly because I was "underweight"...others who have larger builds are sometimes judged as fat or overweight. The Lord made us in all shapes, sizes and builds. At one time, He made giants in the earth! I just wanted to apologize if me not addressing this at the start gave way to anyone thinking I thought this of them. I do not. It's an easy thing to fall into this mindset with what we see. I thank you for sharing what you've seen and things upon your heart! Lord help us to judge rightly by the works of the flesh vs the fruit of the spirit. amen. Much love, in Christ our Lord.
In the darkest hours of my life I called on GOD to rescue me from the darkness and save my soul. 8 years I've sat under ministries searching and starving for the truth. I'm undone. I'm disillusioned. TRUST is the essence that binds us to the Spiritual. It is what is necessary in these times. 🙏 my trust, the one thing I cannot give again once it has been broken.
Tracy you are courageous for saying what you need to say. I commend you for your bravery.
John 3:4 "Everyone who makes a practice of SINNING also practices lawlessness; SIN is the transgression of the LAW"🎉
John 3:4 is Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Jeremiah 31: 31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah........33 I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.🎉
amen
I appreciate you on what you shared. I noticed some time ago that they didn't mention the person who did the leather stuff as one of their sponsors any longer which I thought was strange I now wonder what happened to that person. Yes, they make it out that the sugar and spice soap is a small company that is sponsoring their ministry as they say. I am surprised that they have to keep that a secret and to make it look like a private company that loves their programs are making a special soap with their business name on it. Why just tell the audience that his wife makes the lotions and soaps and not be hiding it from their audience who been watching them for a long time. I wouldn't care if she was making the soaps and lotions as a business which I think it is great but not being honest about who is the one that is making the products is being dishonest and lying in a way which is wrong. I do have an issue with David and Jon that he has a definite hate towards people whose belief is in the Rapture. He is constantly bashing with anger and hatred all the time (David) and makes it out to be a salvation issue. I don't care whose position is on this subject. Which they have a different view on that which they make it out to be a salvation issue. What matters is what you are teaching and preaching the true gospel of Jesus Christ the Holy Bible. If it is a different gospel then what the Bible teaches as the Lord has warned us about. I thank you for showing the light which the Lord is exposing. I did not know that they were under a 501C3 until now. He has always bashed churches that are part of a 501C3. Jesus says in his word in the book of Matthew on the sermon on the mount chapter 7 verse 1 thru 5. I again thank you for what you exposed God bless you sister. Take care.
Well said brother!
I agree about how David gets all in a tizzy and nasty and arrogant when we startw bashing pretribs or dispensationalists. I usually ff the rant. I do find it
Unkind. I think he has too many books outside of the bible and its getting in the way of his teachings. I am not against first enoch but they regard this book like Gospel. Glad you noticed his arrogance as well. Traci I am glad you had the clarity to make your decision. ❤
amen and amen sister. The Lord's timing in all things is perfect!
I had to stop listening to David Carrico and John Pounders mostly because of their pride and EGO poisoning each episode. Apparently they think they can go back under the law and actually KEEP the law which spits in Jesus's face. It was NOT flatearth , I believe in the flat earth as Biblical Cosmology.
The Lord gives us spiritual discernment, and when we're ready to heed His instruction, He's right there waiting to catch us and guide us onward. Thank you for sharing.
Is there a website or email for Traci / HeWalkswithus Everywhere? Thank you.. ☺️
no website, email is this channel name run together @gmail. Thank you for listening!
Got it... thank you 😊
I saw nothing you all did or say to indicate a falling away. Loved your work in showing truths of history. Opened many eyes, ears, and minds. I loved the truth being shown. Would love to see them again.
Thank you sister. I am not a super fast reader...unfortunately...so it takes me a bit longer sometimes. I'm working on getting a couple more ante-nicene fathers books, and will continue to press on! Thanks for the words of encouragement! Much love.
It does seem that David C. is not very teachable, therefore he is caught up in his own doctrine. Zen Garcia is the most humble man I have listened to, anyone who talks against Zen, has no discernment.
WOOOWZERZ!!!! I would’ve never guessed that sugar and spice soap company would have been John’s wife’s company the way that he represents it. Nor the other company that is John’s company. I guess the only one that wasn’t their company was the leather company that I’m pretty sure no longer sponsors them, because I haven’t heard them speak on it for quite some time. This is very surprising and very wrong to represent the so-called local companies as something other than their very own companies. Like you said everybody needs to make money, but let’s just be honest about it and yes, every time or almost every time on the midnight ride, John says, and they even created a midnight ride special soap for us which in my mind always made me think that this was a favor but of course it was doing them a favor cause it’s their own dang company. This makes me angry, but I will not get angry. I will just stop listening to them. Wow, this one hurts it hurts knowing they took an opportunity to deceive us when they could’ve just told the truth and it would’ve been no big deal.
I wonder how they will justify this. I was under the impression that the soap was the work of some single mother creating soaps in her own home... The way it is presented is so devious.
About to unfollow FOJC and NYSTv… this is an eye opener for sure. And that hat David wears has always thrown me off but chose not to go with my intuition
I have thought that for the longest time...what's up with that hat? Then I told myself it's "just" a hat...🧐🎩
YOU ARE BEING HELD UP TRACIE! LOVE AND PRAYERS SISTER!
May God shine forth truth in every dark place!!!
My husband and I used to watch them. But then came out of trying to keep the Law of Moses...realizing that we are in a New Covenant in Christ. One of the many things that did not make sense, as the veil was being removed, is how DC often teaches from the Puritains...but NONE of the them kept the Law of Moses and often wrote against it. It seems duplicitous.
How come nooone has ever brought this up to them? I started to actually read the Puritans because David referred to them so much. It does not make sense.
I think much has been brought to them, but no ears to hear, another reason why I know our Lord held me from speaking out. God does His all to get our attention. All that comes to mind is Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Thank you for listening. We continue to pray. And if they harden their hearts, as others have, praying for those who can't see to be given eyes to see and ears to hear, in Jesus name.
Traci, I love you, and I do understand where you are coming from. I could tell when you had parted ways that you had disagreements and it was probably not well received just by one of your uploads. However, I knew you had been in prayer and had the Holy Spirit anointing. I felt it and knew you were in obedience and doing your best. That being said, we all stumble and make mistakes and as brothers and sisters we should correct one another in love. I believe being under the heads-up of christ means we can love and value one another despite our different functions, and just because the foot or ha d realizes it's place and role doesn't mean it is no longer part of the body and connected in relationship in christ. I still appreciate nystv and fojc, but I also want to acknowledge this is necessary to correct because it causes harm and that is not love. If we offend one of God's children or little ones, we are accountable. We must walk accordingly and handle one another with care. The only thing that matters is the FOUNDATION remains. May our Heavenly Father guide you in wisdom and bless you in obedience. The correction comes quickly and is undeniable for anyone in relationship with Him and is humbling unto repentance so I cannot imagine anyone with love for Christ continuing on a path against His will or away from Him. I believe you are on the right path, and I hope fojc and nystv hears this and takes it to heart because somehow they've missed the Most High's rebuke (otherwise, they would've been quick to take that down and repent before this was necessary).
I appreciate you sharing what you have. Prayers for blind eyes to be open. For repentance. For the truth to shine bright into any darkness. John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
I pray this is not the case for them. May the light be comprehended in full, all to the glory of the Lord!
If you love God and love your neighbor as yourself, you will not intentionally break any command and if we sin, we have an advocate before the father, Jesus. He paid the price for our salvation, he fulfilled the law we never could, " it is finished." He is our sabbath rest. People have to understand the old testament and the new testament of Jesus. Follow Jesus not a man, ministry or man's doctrine. Cults exist because men what to follow and worship a man and his doctrine.
amen! We want to please our heavenly Father!!!
How is Zoe through all of this? I hope she can shake the dust too
She’s a warrior & a leader. I’m so thankful for the gifting of discernment upon her. It’s been slow but steady healing and return of joy!!! Amen 🙏. Thank you dear one for asking about her.
Everyone is in a different place. Lets love. Lets practice mercy.
We keep Sabbath the best we can. Its what He has shown us but my husband has to work every other Saturday. We do the best we can.
We love our Savior.
Its what He showed us so we do it. But im in a group of beautiful woman that love Yah. Some keep sabbath some dont. But what is amazing is that we can come together and lift Him up and not have division because our center is Yahusha.
Its like people waiting till they have all their problems to come to Yah to be saved. We would never get there. Feasts cant be done because they must be done in isreal after the high places are taken down if your going to try and do them at all.
We are all like sheep....
We may not agree on some things Tracy.
But one thing is needed. To believe in the Word of Yah made flesh! He is our redeemer and salvation! I truly pray that all come to Him and we get all our hearts straight. Hey everyone Its super easy to get triggered. Im guilty of it as well.
Lets stop the madness.
Ty Tracy for clarification
Amen. ONE thing is needful! I'm falling in love with Jesus all over again, and I am truly thankful for His mercy and patience. Thanks for commenting.
Honestly it happened to me as well. I am getting back my first love as well.
The main reason I left the church was because of the lies. I know that's a big one for everyone. Now we have been lied to here.
We must not put our faith in people. It hurts to be in this place. But the growth comes from Yah from it if we yield to His Spirit. I know He has you and I pray them also. This can be squashed quickly with humility and repentance.
Bless you Traci xxx 😢
Much love, in Christ Jesus.
I’m not part of the Facebook group nor do I visit their websites. I usually don’t comment on their videos or participate in the chat. I haven’t seen you in some time and wondered what happened to you. I am a sub to your channel but must have missed you discussing about you leaving fojc . I’m saddened to hear this news, because I’ve seen others leave which is concerning to me. As brothers and sisters in Christ this is unacceptable to me. They should have handled this differently. Your love for our savior is obvious and you’re a very humble woman. I love your videos and keep doing what God leads you to do. I will be here to listen. I will also tuck myself and hide behind the scriptures. There’s no safer place ❤
Thank you for sharing with us and listening. AMEN! We stand in and on the very words of the Lord! Much love.
My opinion on the HOLY DAYS is that we observe them as a REMEMBERANCE, like we observe THE 4TH OF JULY and THANKSGIVING. The Ceremonial Law no longer applies BECAUSE...OUR LAMB HAS BEEN SACRIFICED and ROSE FROM THE GRAVE and SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER.
It is impossible to keep the Holy Days as described in the Torah, we are NOT in THE LAND and we no longer have a human priest. JESUS IS OUR PRIEST in heaven.
amen. We do all as unto the Lord!!!
I am not making any type accusations by saying..... Could be coincidence or whatever even though we all say we dont believe in it but has anyone ever looked up the other David Carrico whose an author and read his bio as well as taken a look at some of his books? Its so weird how much they look alike and his books that are very similar subjects and interests except from an occult view. Kinda like polar opposite twins. I looked through and was really weirded out by it. I am by no means saying they are the same person but am very surprised that the enemy or anyone at all that i am aware of has not.
wow! I haven't looked at this. Thank you for the information.
have you turned your back on the commandments in the Torah, do you no longer do the feasts and the sabbath day?
I believe and hold fast to the ENTIRE bible. Torah is part of the bible. If you listen to anything on this channel, I hold to the moral law of God. As for my house, we choose to still observe a day of rest unto the Lord, but we don't call it sabbath observance...but have many sisters and brothers in Christ who do call it this, and we love them all dearly, with the same love Christ has for us. We do not celebrate the feasts of the Lord, but we serve Jesus Christ every day and observe His commands and principles to love, rebuke, correct, teach others of sin (those things written on our hearts.), and preach the gospel to every creature.
I have taken this to Father in Prayer. SAD, Hope they come forth and address this.
amen. May the Lord shine light in ALL dark places. Thank you for listening.
Am. 24th December birthday and adopted myself..yes..there are things that am in agreement with you as well...am sad it has gone so far with some of the things...have wanted to mention them during the course of the programming..but we dont...it usually comes to the light eventually...❤️
Truth always shines forth. Thank you for listening and sharing! I love how now we are ALL adoptees in Jesus Christ our Lord!!! Best family ever...our brethren. Much love and hugs...may the Lord give comfort for any of the hurts you feel.
@@hewalkswithuseverywhereall hurts have been given to our Lord...he heals, recovers and gives me strength to carry on...🤗
I'm very shocked learning all this. Traci, I enjoyed all your shows with David and watched many of your solo shows.
I find it's a good place to go when a person is in need of good vibes. Theres fewer and fewer places of refuge from toxic energies these days it seems and I consider your channel to be one of those refuges.
I'm not taking any sides, but some serious red flags have been raised. My first thought was I wonder if the fallen out was more to do with money than with differences in ideologies. Money really is rooted in evil and one of the sure ways Satan snares people.
It also seems like narcissist behavior and tactics. When a narcissist can no longer control a person, they drop them and attack their character behind the person's back.
I don't subscribe to any religions, I believe they are all designed by Satan to trick people into worshiping him instead and leading people away from God.
That being said, I dont follow new age or pagan either... I mean it when I say I don't follow ANY religions and don't celebrate any of their holidays or do any type of rituals.
I do believe in and reject Satan and do believe in and love God. I live a very moral life. Almost perfect, but where i fall short, i work at every day and strive for perfect morality.
Because of that i feel we should have enough common ground to find fellowship with each other.. I don't comdem anyone at NYSTV or FOJC for having different beliefs than me, but i know i would be condemned by them if i told them that. They wouldn't want to be my friend and probably believe I'm bound for the lake of fire, simply for having concerns about certain aspects of religion.
I pray for them and have love for them, because I believe we love the same God.
That being said. I pray you heal from the hurt you understandably feel by this, soon and I pray you find a circle of people that just falls into place and brings peace to your life, not conflict.
Ohh and I forgot to add that anything done in secret or in a misleading manner is not good.
It's what I say to people who say masons do so much good... If it's done in the shadows, it's not of goodness/God.
Thank you for listening and for commenting. I do believe and know to be true that Jesus Christ is the way, truth and life...but I also realize we are all at different places in our walk toward the Lord. I pray for us all to grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you again.