M ason I agree. What average individual has that kind of money to spend??!! On top of that, the one's CR recommendations tend to be problem prone as well.
In europe compact washers are standard. To us, your normal fromt loaders are gigiantic haha. They dont even sell the sizes of your washers in europe. Only in italy tho. Most of us cant even get the size of an american washer, bc it wouldnt fit through our doors. Your homes are on average also bigger than ours so that maybe explains it? Yes it is alot of money, agree. Its ridicilous.
The Bosch which is promoted at the end of this video is probably the best possible one available, and my guess is that it is better but not much better than some of the more affordable options. There are other options for the compact washer/dryer combo's which are much more affordable. Sam's Club has a Galaxy GX4000CV which is around $850 with free shipping. This Galaxy brand is the same as Equator appliances. Another option is the Haier HLC1700AXS which is $1079 at Best Buy. Both of these are quality products and both also have ventless condensing drying.
Robi Geisi The models Europe has are not only more expensive to buy when imported to North America, but more expensive to operate, as they operate on around 220 volts (even after converting them from 220v 50hz 1 phase,to North American 220 60hz 2 phase), because 220 volt appliances in North America are in general more expensive to operate than 110 volt appliances (220 volt appliances in North America must be on their own circuit, due to how much electricity it uses). Add to it that European models heat their own water, and that adds to the cost of operating a European front loader in North America
Consumer Reports, do you test the longevity of washers/dryers/fridges. Reason I ask is that older stuff lasts longer than new from some companies like Samsung.
I am considering similar stack design and having stored in a “closet. Since I am going to do the washing during the day. I am figuring out a way to try to muffle some of the potential noise these machines make. But of of the editors is correct, I much rather have my own washer/dryer and put up with the noise than going to a laundromat.
It shows that CR targets those who will pay for a subscribtion. Generally, people live in small appartements to save money and CR suggest a $2700 set. 👍 A real great assesment of the needs and ressources of most people in this situation. While you're at it, why don't you recommend me a $80k compact SUV. Basically CR as become a ressource for those with money. It's certainly not for those with little money and want to make the most out of it.
Really? What is this pricing ? Ok, this is exactly like a European front loader , this is how big is how big you can get in Europe. the base models cost at least around 200 dollars, and that
And combining with the dryer that costs around the same, It probably starts around 500 to 1300$, and, they are pretty great. Take the Electrolux in this video, it costs about 470$, and combined with the dryer, which is a bit cheaper, it's about 800 to 1000$, and what you get is steam, brushless inverter motor , real time weight sensing, bunch of programs that you don't use etc.. so, this Washer market has a problem.
The USA.......such an advanced country but sooooooo far behind with a lot of stuff. The washers and dryers you guys have these days......we had over 25 years ago!
Brian Harrison front loaders have been available in the United States since the 1930's. Problem has been that due to lack of demand, except for a few combo models, they were restricted to just the Westinghouse and later White Westinghouse brands. My mom for a short period of the in the 70's, had a Westinghouse front loader. The only reason she didn't keep it had to do with the floor of our home not handling the washer. Fast forward to 1999, after 2 top loaders breaking down in a 3 year period, and all the top loader washers at Circuit City had those dual agitators, that I refused to get another top loader. I was fortunate to have some cash saved up, and the money I got back from a previous washer I bought that broke down, and got a Frigidaire front loader. I didn't know that front loaders took longer, but this one was only 20 minutes longer than most top loaders, at 50 minutes on the heavy duty cycle. At least it used the proper amount of water, though people back then complained that they didn't, and also complained about longer wash times. 2012, after my gas dryer quit working completely after 15 years, and the Frigidaire about to break down, I replaced both with an LG set. Unlike Europe, American front loaders made after probably 2006 or so, have the water levels set too low to get clothes clean. I had loads that stayed dry the entire cycle. It was disgusting. I had to hack the washers so it would use more water. After LG and Samsung learned that people were hacking the water pressure switches on their washers, that they're supergluing the screw on the water pressure switch, so it becomes more difficult for people to adjust them. People have managed to get around it, but if our government wasn't setting unrealistic standards for water efficiency, we might be using front loaders voluntarily. I don't mind them, as long they use the right amount of water. I however don't have patience in 2+ hour wash cycles. It's bad enough that with LG' s stupid load sensing, that with my soil level (even if I set it to light), and extra rinse (I like 3 short rinses over 2 by default), I'm lucky if the shortest wash time is 1 hour. Since I pretreat my clothes, the much longer wash times should not be super long for certain wash loads. I only do normal load, so I can get it as short as possible.
davenwin1973 It is weird that your front loaders take soooooo long to wash. 2 hours plus? Ok so for my Samsung front load washer.......hot water wash ( 60 deg C) full 12kg load of towels......one hour wash. A 12kg load of shirts warm water ( 40 deg C) done in forty five minutes. Fast wash cycle warm water done in thirty minutes. There is also a twenty minute wash cycle at 30 degrees. I have no clue why your HE washers take so long??!!! Maybe send some people to the UK and teach them how to make washers that work and clean fast.
My brother has a top load he washer and it took ONE HOUR turning around in the same direction to heat the water for a hot wash. Then actually washed for 30 minutes. If our washers can heat to 60 degrees and get the clothes spotless on a heavy cycle why can't the US get that right in 2018?
2700 dollars for a set of compact washer/dryer? No thanks.
M ason I agree. What average individual has that kind of money to spend??!! On top of that, the one's CR recommendations tend to be problem prone as well.
In europe compact washers are standard. To us, your normal fromt loaders are gigiantic haha. They dont even sell the sizes of your washers in europe. Only in italy tho. Most of us cant even get the size of an american washer, bc it wouldnt fit through our doors. Your homes are on average also bigger than ours so that maybe explains it? Yes it is alot of money, agree. Its ridicilous.
The Bosch which is promoted at the end of this video is probably the best possible one available, and my guess is that it is better but not much better than some of the more affordable options. There are other options for the compact washer/dryer combo's which are much more affordable. Sam's Club has a Galaxy GX4000CV which is around $850 with free shipping. This Galaxy brand is the same as Equator appliances. Another option is the Haier HLC1700AXS which is $1079 at Best Buy. Both of these are quality products and both also have ventless condensing drying.
Robi Geisi The models Europe has are not only more expensive to buy when imported to North America, but more expensive to operate, as they operate on around 220 volts (even after converting them from 220v 50hz 1 phase,to North American 220 60hz 2 phase), because 220 volt appliances in North America are in general more expensive to operate than 110 volt appliances (220 volt appliances in North America must be on their own circuit, due to how much electricity it uses). Add to it that European models heat their own water, and that adds to the cost of operating a European front loader in North America
@@davenwin1973
That's not true
Europe saves energy in everything different to America so an European machine will be better than an American one
What about the depth of the unit? That is also important for some people.
Consumer Reports, do you test the longevity of washers/dryers/fridges. Reason I ask is that older stuff lasts longer than new from some companies like Samsung.
I am considering similar stack design and having stored in a “closet. Since I am going to do the washing during the day. I am figuring out a way to try to muffle some of the potential noise these machines make. But of of the editors is correct, I much rather have my own washer/dryer and put up with the noise than going to a laundromat.
What about the ones made for RV 's
No Miele?
It shows that CR targets those who will pay for a subscribtion.
Generally, people live in small appartements to save money and CR suggest a $2700 set.
👍 A real great assesment of the needs and ressources of most people in this situation.
While you're at it, why don't you recommend me a $80k compact SUV.
Basically CR as become a ressource for those with money.
It's certainly not for those with little money and want to make the most out of it.
That Bosch isn't a ventless dryer, IT'S a HEAT PUMP DRYER! OR A AC INSIDE A DRYER . It's A COMPLETELY SEALED RE-CIRCULATION DRYER!!!!!!!!
Really? What is this pricing ? Ok, this is exactly like a European front loader , this is how big is how big you can get in Europe. the base models cost at least around 200 dollars, and that
And combining with the dryer that costs around the same, It probably starts around 500 to 1300$, and, they are pretty great. Take the Electrolux in this video, it costs about 470$, and combined with the dryer, which is a bit cheaper, it's about 800 to 1000$, and what you get is steam, brushless inverter motor , real time weight sensing, bunch of programs that you don't use etc.. so, this Washer market has a problem.
The USA.......such an advanced country but sooooooo far behind with a lot of stuff. The washers and dryers you guys have these days......we had over 25 years ago!
Brian Harrison front loaders have been available in the United States since the 1930's. Problem has been that due to lack of demand, except for a few combo models, they were restricted to just the Westinghouse and later White Westinghouse brands. My mom for a short period of the in the 70's, had a Westinghouse front loader. The only reason she didn't keep it had to do with the floor of our home not handling the washer.
Fast forward to 1999, after 2 top loaders breaking down in a 3 year period, and all the top loader washers at Circuit City had those dual agitators, that I refused to get another top loader. I was fortunate to have some cash saved up, and the money I got back from a previous washer I bought that broke down, and got a Frigidaire front loader. I didn't know that front loaders took longer, but this one was only 20 minutes longer than most top loaders, at 50 minutes on the heavy duty cycle. At least it used the proper amount of water, though people back then complained that they didn't, and also complained about longer wash times. 2012, after my gas dryer quit working completely after 15 years, and the Frigidaire about to break down, I replaced both with an LG set. Unlike Europe, American front loaders made after probably 2006 or so, have the water levels set too low to get clothes clean. I had loads that stayed dry the entire cycle. It was disgusting. I had to hack the washers so it would use more water. After LG and Samsung learned that people were hacking the water pressure switches on their washers, that they're supergluing the screw on the water pressure switch, so it becomes more difficult for people to adjust them. People have managed to get around it, but if our government wasn't setting unrealistic standards for water efficiency, we might be using front loaders voluntarily. I don't mind them, as long they use the right amount of water. I however don't have patience in 2+ hour wash cycles. It's bad enough that with LG' s stupid load sensing, that with my soil level (even if I set it to light), and extra rinse (I like 3 short rinses over 2 by default), I'm lucky if the shortest wash time is 1 hour. Since I pretreat my clothes, the much longer wash times should not be super long for certain wash loads. I only do normal load, so I can get it as short as possible.
davenwin1973 It is weird that your front loaders take soooooo long to wash. 2 hours plus? Ok so for my Samsung front load washer.......hot water wash ( 60 deg C) full 12kg load of towels......one hour wash. A 12kg load of shirts warm water ( 40 deg C) done in forty five minutes. Fast wash cycle warm water done in thirty minutes. There is also a twenty minute wash cycle at 30 degrees. I have no clue why your HE washers take so long??!!! Maybe send some people to the UK and teach them how to make washers that work and clean fast.
My brother has a top load he washer and it took ONE HOUR turning around in the same direction to heat the water for a hot wash. Then actually washed for 30 minutes. If our washers can heat to 60 degrees and get the clothes spotless on a heavy cycle why can't the US get that right in 2018?
@@brianharrison3676 the same reason there 'isn't' a cure for cancer
2017 ft 2in1 washed dryer
0:27 Oh, and that Electrolux got 12 kg.
Vice Admiral Janeway? 😄
LOL!! Haven't thought about Star Trek: Voyager in a long time.
Seriously, this is the extent of the report🤣 CR gone down hill
LOL...$2700 BUCKS? Umm NO
The absolute worst appliance advice comes from Consumers Reports.
No no, this Bosh dryer is a very bad choice.... I bought one and now I’m in the process of returning it. It’s a complete disaster.
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