I decided between these brands when shopping and chose the Miele because it's the only heat pump dryer with a user accessible heat exchanger. If the Bosch exchanger ever needs cleaning, which I would expect after a few years of use, you'll need to schedule a technician to come out and disassemble your dryer to have it cleaned. With the Miele you just open up the plinth filter and vacuum it out.
Bosch or Miele don't sell non heat pump dryers in Europe. It is crazy this technology is just entering USA market. That is like 20 years behind Europe.
@@chadlakin7517 yes, Europe is way ahead. They can make a BMW! But American made the Space Shuttle, invented rock ‘n’ roll, and save the world from tyranny. So, yeah, while it is so fashionable to insult the United States, I’m gonna give Europe the washing machine trophy. At least they have that. I wonder if one of these units would fit better in a BMW or a F250?
And the Miele washer would have spun the clothes more dry prior to arriving for drying so it probably would have done better if you consider the entire Miele system to the entire Bosch system.
@@YaleAppliance1 Ok, yes, 1400 is a very close spin rate so clothes should be "pre-dried" fairly closely when they arrive at the drier. The lower maintenance rate of the Bosch is attractive due to the automatic flushing of the filter but the Miele technology is more attractive to me. I'm hoping if I stay on top of cleaning out the filter, I can avoid those maintenance calls that push that number up to around 8%. I was just in Munich, Germany, and the agent was raving at how good the Miele machines are. I like the heat-pump dryer technology and I think I'll try that.
I just got the latest Bosch 500 washer which is a newer model than the one tested. Right from the factory it had a cracked interior valve causing a leak which was not obvious right away when the installers ran a test cycle. Only after a second fill cycle did the internal leak detection kick in and stopped everything. At least the leak detection worked. Waiting n a backordered cheap plastic part for a brand new machine. Dealer won't straight up replace it but insists on repairing it and they have my money and I have no leverage. Bosch responded with the usual Germanic indifference. I really want to contact the CEO of Bosch direct but they make it rather difficult. Previous Bosch lasted 21 years with one service call.
Hi any feedback on wether Bosch trips the gfci breaker like miele. Was all set to buy a miele and discovered that tripping the gfci breaker is an issue because gfci is code now. Will this happen to a Bosch?
Been repairing the self cleaning bosch dryers in the uk 😮the self clean doesn't work it just let's the condensed water from the draw run down the front of the evaporator during the cycle it then washes down blocking the channels that run to the pump causing an error code 😳 it also doesn't clean the evaporator properly so needs a complete strip down to clear the evaporator and the channels underneath 😵 it would seem bosch know its a problem as the new one has an easy clean system you can remove and the spaces between the evaporator fin's are bigger so don't clog up so easily 🫡 beware so-called self clean systems the crap washed out has to go somewhere 😮 the bosch are still good dyer's though and the new easy clean version is a vast and sensible improvement that looks to have sorted the issue 👍
Had one for about 9 years, stoped working after around 18 months. BSH sent out an engineer, he changed the transfer pump in the bottom tank. The self cleaning condenser does not work. I have to strip it down, remove the transfer pump. Clean and flush the tank. Then vacuum the lint dust from the whole inside of the machine. When the lint is in the bottom of the tank, the pump will suck it in and block the pump. The machine then stops working. I think there is a fire risk on this dryer due to the amount of lint dust. Which goes all over the electronics. That is why I strip every year to remove this lint dust, & clean out the pump / tank. The dryer it self has been very reliable. The one I have is the Siemens IQ 700. Same as the Bosch will longer warranty.
I am so spoiled that I only buy the top model from Miele. Miele is also easy to clean. Their newest oven even washes itself. Always read the owners manual. It tells everything about how to easily maintain the machine for decades.
The first Miele I bought (mother and father doesn’t count) is still running well and I bought it over 30 years ago. But is in the summer house now for at least a decade. That is a remote place so you don’t want the latest tech there. Just incase.
@@bertraminc9412 that's just rude. I had a Miele washing machine that after 5 years was going to be more expensive to repair than to buy a new Bosch. I had the Bosch for 15 years and left it with a house I sold. It's probably still working fine. I've had three Bosch dishwashers two of which lasted 10 years or more which I also left with houses I sold. I now have a Bosch washing machine and dishwasher that are both 6 years old with zero problems. I really didn't want to give so much information but as you were so rude I thought I'd explain more fully. I've also had various other Miele products that I haven't been entirely satisfied with. I think they are excellent like Range Rover. But they are as reliable too.
Oh Yeah ! Same as buying a VW, Mercedes, Bmw or any other German made product ! It's all about repair cost and the German products are the highest in the land ! I say screw them.
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I decided between these brands when shopping and chose the Miele because it's the only heat pump dryer with a user accessible heat exchanger. If the Bosch exchanger ever needs cleaning, which I would expect after a few years of use, you'll need to schedule a technician to come out and disassemble your dryer to have it cleaned. With the Miele you just open up the plinth filter and vacuum it out.
It has "self-cleaning" but it only goes so far. What goes farther is emptying the lint trap after every cycle.
Bosch or Miele don't sell non heat pump dryers in Europe. It is crazy this technology is just entering USA market. That is like 20 years behind Europe.
Actually more like 30
There's alot Europe does as far as energy efficiency does that the us is decades behind.
@@chadlakin7517 yes, Europe is way ahead. They can make a BMW! But American made the Space Shuttle, invented rock ‘n’ roll, and save the world from tyranny. So, yeah, while it is so fashionable to insult the United States, I’m gonna give Europe the washing machine trophy. At least they have that. I wonder if one of these units would fit better in a BMW or a F250?
@@7xtc25classic ignorant eccentric American comment😂
All true...but this is an appliance channel.
Lower voltage doesn't necessarily mean lower power used. Think of it as potential power. High voltage CAN supply more power.
Yep, the amps drawn are the deciding factor.
5A at 220V = 10A at 110V
I bought a solt heat pump dryer 8kg 3 hours ago, for 660 AU dollars I am very satisfied.
I’ve had the Miele set for 7months now. I will never go back to traditional dryer units. Clothes come out dry but not torched like with other dryers.
Heat pumps dry at lower temperatures
Thats because of heat pump. Mz Bosch does same thing and clothes dont schrink
And the Miele washer would have spun the clothes more dry prior to arriving for drying so it probably would have done better if you consider the entire Miele system to the entire Bosch system.
Yes. Miele and Bosch have the best spins at 1600 and 1400 RPM. Technically, the clothes from the Miele will be drier out of the washer.
@@YaleAppliance1 Ok, yes, 1400 is a very close spin rate so clothes should be "pre-dried" fairly closely when they arrive at the drier. The lower maintenance rate of the Bosch is attractive due to the automatic flushing of the filter but the Miele technology is more attractive to me. I'm hoping if I stay on top of cleaning out the filter, I can avoid those maintenance calls that push that number up to around 8%. I was just in Munich, Germany, and the agent was raving at how good the Miele machines are. I like the heat-pump dryer technology and I think I'll try that.
I just got the latest Bosch 500 washer which is a newer model than the one tested. Right from the factory it had a cracked interior valve causing a leak which was not obvious right away when the installers ran a test cycle. Only after a second fill cycle did the internal leak detection kick in and stopped everything. At least the leak detection worked. Waiting n a backordered cheap plastic part for a brand new machine. Dealer won't straight up replace it but insists on repairing it and they have my money and I have no leverage. Bosch responded with the usual Germanic indifference. I really want to contact the CEO of Bosch direct but they make it rather difficult. Previous Bosch lasted 21 years with one service call.
Really dumb....They will wonder why there is no customer loyalty
Get a Speed Queen.
How much weight, and how full can you put in the washers? I have seen demonstrations of them crammed to the top, but that seems unrealistic.
In Europe we have Siemens which is a premium version of the Bosch machines.
Hi any feedback on wether Bosch trips the gfci breaker like miele. Was all set to buy a miele and discovered that tripping the gfci breaker is an issue because gfci is code now. Will this happen to a Bosch?
I’d buy a Bosch in a heartbeat if they had a 110volt dryer, I believe it will come soon.
Dont think that will happen
Hi Tom how are you doing 😊
Miele , without second thought . The only brand with the 10 year warranty choice for the customers .
In Turkey it’s 2 year warranty
Talk about timing. W1 on your channel is what I came to TH-cam for just now!
It takes between 2-3 hours to dry at full capacity and 1200-1400rpm spin before that. That is the standard for EU heat pump dryers.
You will get more in the next few weeks....
@@kokovox So 1600 RPM should reduce that 2-3 hour dry time with the Miele heat pump dryer.
Bosch, please bring the US your updated heat pump dryers with auto clean condensers! They’ve been out for years overseas :(
Heat Pump is better
@@YaleAppliance1 they are heat pump, but all their series auto clean and are heat pump instead of just the 500 like in the US.
The heat pump version with self cleaning condenser is here! The new 500 series has it.
Been repairing the self cleaning bosch dryers in the uk 😮the self clean doesn't work it just let's the condensed water from the draw run down the front of the evaporator during the cycle it then washes down blocking the channels that run to the pump causing an error code 😳 it also doesn't clean the evaporator properly so needs a complete strip down to clear the evaporator and the channels underneath 😵 it would seem bosch know its a problem as the new one has an easy clean system you can remove and the spaces between the evaporator fin's are bigger so don't clog up so easily 🫡 beware so-called self clean systems the crap washed out has to go somewhere 😮 the bosch are still good dyer's though and the new easy clean version is a vast and sensible improvement that looks to have sorted the issue 👍
Had one for about 9 years, stoped working after around 18 months. BSH sent out an engineer, he changed the transfer pump in the bottom tank. The self cleaning condenser does not work. I have to strip it down, remove the transfer pump. Clean and flush the tank. Then vacuum the lint dust from the whole inside of the machine. When the lint is in the bottom of the tank, the pump will suck it in and block the pump. The machine then stops working. I think there is a fire risk on this dryer due to the amount of lint dust. Which goes all over the electronics. That is why I strip every year to remove this lint dust, & clean out the pump / tank. The dryer it self has been very reliable. The one I have is the Siemens IQ 700. Same as the Bosch will longer warranty.
I am so spoiled that I only buy the top model from Miele. Miele is also easy to clean. Their newest oven even washes itself. Always read the owners manual. It tells everything about how to easily maintain the machine for decades.
The first Miele I bought (mother and father doesn’t count) is still running well and I bought it over 30 years ago. But is in the summer house now for at least a decade. That is a remote place so you don’t want the latest tech there. Just incase.
I've had both makes in the past and Bosch wins for me.
Miele is newer...They switched their dryers 4-5 years ago.
Really a useless comment without details.
@@bertraminc9412 that's just rude. I had a Miele washing machine that after 5 years was going to be more expensive to repair than to buy a new Bosch. I had the Bosch for 15 years and left it with a house I sold. It's probably still working fine. I've had three Bosch dishwashers two of which lasted 10 years or more which I also left with houses I sold. I now have a Bosch washing machine and dishwasher that are both 6 years old with zero problems.
I really didn't want to give so much information but as you were so rude I thought I'd explain more fully. I've also had various other Miele products that I haven't been entirely satisfied with. I think they are excellent like Range Rover. But they are as reliable too.
Can a dryer vent vented outside be added as an option to either dryer unit?
Why is Miele dryer without a see-through door? So bizarre.
Guys remember, most important is to match dryer and washing machine.. or lady can easily kick you out of the house... trust me on this..
Miele have better everything
Miele is better
Oh Yeah ! Same as buying a VW, Mercedes, Bmw or any other German made product ! It's all about repair cost and the German products are the highest in the land ! I say screw them.