there are their is Kickstarters and indie devs, but AAA devs don't care for passion and prefer to keep games the same because people buy it look at Activision or EA they basically sell the same games Evey year with a different name and some changes.
This is because big game companies are run by businessmen focusing on profit instead of quality, and the main demographic are 8 year olds with consoles. Dont even get me started on dlc/micropay.
Armesis P that is part of the reason, but there is also the fact that with video games there was a greater obligation to innovate as better technology became available. The sonic series is a good example of this, as well as the jrpg genre as a whole. This is an industry that is extremely dynamic and therefore it would be hard to keep up with the changing times.
I feel all games should utilize microtransactions only to offer players greater non advantage things not necessarily cosmetics only but if they get a gun it should be too powerful compared to a gun in its class even if its a higher level gun.
Iamyouonlydifferent not really. A lot of 10 year olds have access to their parents bank accounts, and are more likely to spend their allowance/holiday money because they havent learned how to be responsible with cash yet.
Iamyouonlydifferent maybe, but who is more likely to spend more per capita of the two demographics? Especially when your content is rushed and sub par. I would bet younger kids.
You are missing my point. 30 year olds have way more income to dispose of. But because of age, they are usually smarter at what they spend that money on. If I as an adult have 300 bucks to spend, and spend 20 on a game I like, that is the effective amount of profit for that gaming company. If I'm 16 and I have 60 bucks, and I spend 50 on that same game, I may have less income, but the company has more effective profits. Moreover as an adult, having played way more games and experienced what makes good games good, I have a better understanding of content worth buying. If you can't as a company produce worthwhile content, wouldn't it be smarter to maximize profits by pumping out content to try and capture the area of the market that is more susceptible to gimmicks, regardless of how good that content is?
Piracy is a symptom not the disease. If games had fair pricing more people would buy them, as Steam sales show. If I as a potential buyer think that a particular game is not worth my money yet I still want to try it out, then I'll pirate it.
Reasons games are worse: 1. Yearly releases. 2. Apologist fans that let bad games slide because it was their favorite franchise. 3. The ability to add DLC/Patches encourages the release of unfinished games. 4. Huge companies like EA who put profit before quality. 5. Lack of innovation. Developers are afraid to experiment. 6. Lack of variety. Everything is an FPS or TPS now. 7. Online Multiplayer is often used as an excuse to ignore the Single Player or Couch Co-Op experience. 8. Loot boxes. 9. Amazing games that go unnoticed because of some AAA title that came out. 10. Shorter attention span of gamers. The list could go on and on.
Saber0003 the problem with 5 is that gamers often expect it to be the same as it was earlier. Look at advanced warfare for example, I enjoyed it a lot but a lot of nostalgia gamers were saying it was shit and they hated the futuristic setting.
You're extremely wrong on #2 because the fans that support the decline are newer ones who don't know any better. Fallout 4 was a lot of players first experience in Fallout and to them its amazing, but kf they player the other games they'll see its shit. Skyrim fans are the worst, the other games are way better and Bethesda and Valve are making shitty games (Fallout 76 and Artifact) DESPITE FANS PROTESTING EVERY SECOND.
True that. Nowadays you can go onto Steam and find a no-name company who made a game just as good as the new COD game. Big companies are too busy making crappy DLC's for 2 weeks after launch so they can get as much money as possible, and hiring as few people as possible to program the new game, so they can get as much money as possible. The programmers probably are told to just take the old game and retexture it, and add a few new entities, and rename it, that way the large company saves as much money as possible. I can't say whether or not having all these DLCs and expansion packs is a bad marketing plan or not, because every big company is still doing it, so it must be working.
So games are officially, statistically, measurably not as good as they were 15 years ago. We've put forward our theories as to why - but what do you guys think is causing the steady drop in 90+ metacritic scores?
the game industry needs another crash, the tactics that are using the producers have to stop, also reviewers that you can trust would be angry joe, and yahtzee croshaw (even if the later records videos based on comedy, it brings up the problems in a game, or whether its worth buying)
HiveTyrant36 I would argue that the underlying themes, overarching plot, and character development all gave both the avengers movies more substance. certainly enough to not lump them with the transformers franchise. joss whedon dammit...
If us gamers have to pay full price for a game then it should be a fully completed game. Not this crap of patching major issues months after release. Most gamers will have moved on by that time.
+Wylie28 Than why can R* pull it off to make a $60 game full of content, years long free DLC support and still make $800m in profits? It's because they build a reputation for delivering quality products, which gets rewarded by the community with a boost in sales. Cutting corners and selling shitty day 1 DLC's isn't the only way to make money, it's just the lazy way.
Wylie28 i doubt that is true, games use digital media, online marketing both save tons in money. The issue is bad design goals, making games milkable rather than just a good game which could sell very well and eventually be milked, but they want all that upfront, over paying for resources and giving the coders less time to refine.
at the middle of the video i had planned to write a big comment. by the end i realized the comment would have been almost identical to the script of the video
Pretty Good Gaming yeah. i found you recently and i almost immediately subbed. seems like you are thinking in the right direction and say the things like they are, without trying to sugarcoat it. which i appreciate very much. as for the issue of the video, i think we are in the middle of a transition, maybe a specific type of crisis. all the things that became a standard in the past few years, like the capability to be always online of almost all gamers, the newly found things like microtransaction and dlcs and patches and all of those. I just think companies are still figuring out how much they can push those without us complaining. in a way they are experimenting. and of course some of them are just being lazy.
We see a transition of trends every time a generation of gamers grow more independent in their preferences, rather than piggybacking a trend. This results in fragmentation of playerbases and then some industry giant comes along and puts their focus on one of those fragmentations and then that becomes a trend. I'm not that knowledgeable about every genre, but as far as competitive multiplayer FPS goes - military shooters have definitely had their run. I think we're reverting back to the more unrealistic and whacky types of FPS such as Overwatch and maybe in a long shot; Quake Champions. I think eventually 1v1 might also become trendy once again, as it's been a pretty dormant market - free for anyone's taking for a while. By comparison, team games are very tough competition.
What do you mean by team games? The ones like military shooters you mentioned? P. S. I can't imagine I'm saying it, but I'm very pleased to see a person with good grammar and proper spelling. It is a rarity in comment section, unfortunately.
red asylum in Greek it is "Lateinos" meaning the"Latin man" and the sum of "Lateinis" is 666, the name of the beast (from the sea, multitude of nations, ie world empire) Our world = "Lateinos" world = 666 world. Where the dead body (Lateinos world) lies, vultures will gather. Base of science is in "Latin"... Law, medicine, all scientific naming, the building block of society "Latin". Thus the genre of games will be massively towards war, killing, shooting... because that is what the world is and what chooks, cattles & slaves of the world are feed, renforced, hypnotised & programmed to like & do... Latin man Mystery language of choice on $US 1 note? Latin... Mason the builders, Mason builders of the world. Of Mystery Babylon the Great, the purple clothed harlot that sits on the scarlet Beast (image of the beast, that is UN, United Nation) The stone that the builder rejected have become the corner-stone, and it is beautiful in our eyes.
I don't know if its a plan or just an Invasion of the Suits situation. When the bean counters start running the creative side of any media production things usually go down the crapper quite fast. So, it may be a plannnn! ;) Or it may be just the companies getting conservative in their old age. Not looking forward to their getting senile.
The games industry used to be a thriving hub for innovation and experimentation. Then it was taken over by corporatists who look for formulas that they can just rinse and repeat to make the maximum amount of cash.
willywhonka games are much more expensive too make though now because of online. Many games were at most 20 dollars before like 2007 too so it was easier to market, try new games and since there weren't online they had more time to focus on all the features to the highest content.
Actually, games are only expensive because that's what the publishers and corporations says so. They don't need to prove how expensive it is, and if it's viable to make similar quality games without said level of expense. One aspect of games gaining expenses is likely years ago when 'copyright' over digital goods were in full front debate, where artists try to convey that they need to defend their works and sue the hell out of everyone who bats an eye at them.
Gaming used to be about journeying to new places or doing things you couldn't in real life. Nowadays devs and publishers only care about money, money, and money. Consumers don't help when they support this flawed system...
ProbablyNot FBI we’re all better off waiting a whole year before we buy any “new” games and until then we should all just buy older games that were obviously better “finished wise”.
I like his reviews, but lately I've been noticing that most titles seem to be "buys" from him. I haven't heard a really negative review from him in a while.
How so? What do you want them to do? FIFA in space? FIFA racing? I'm confused as to how you can use FIFA as a backdrop to judge the entire gaming industry. Most stupid comment in this entire thread. Another great video PGG, keep it up!
CocoCream Gaming Are you a big football fan? You wouldn't understand. Their main focus is FUT every year. That's the only game mode they keep up to date. In proclubs, it still tells you reserving a spot is a new feature but its been on there 2 straight years. Career Mode is as good as dead.
CocoCream Gaming Are you a big football fan? You wouldn't understand. Their main focus is FUT every year. That's the only game mode they keep up to date. In proclubs, it still tells you reserving a spot is a new feature but its been on there 2 straight years. Career Mode is as good as dead.
I'd be willing to bet half the 'experts' didn't even *play* the game they're writing a review on, just like that book in my English class. Shit there's a test on Monday about that.
Older games also don't usually do microtransactions, DLC, and they often allow LAN PARTIES. Just putting that out there. And don't forget, you don't need to be always online to play.
Lead The Fallen I always find the mixed reviews to be the most interesting. Usually people will either love or hate a game, and will unconsciously ignore good or bad points accordingly. But a mixed review is often more honest and objective, giving both the good and bad points.
The good thing about steam is that they don't use a numbered review system. It's a joke when you look at negative reviews by users on metacritic. TONS of people gave Overwatch a 0 just because it didn't have a single player campaign. The game was never going to have a campaign and blizzard was very open about that. Not a valid review basically. Then again. Users tend to hand out 10/10 reviews easier than critics do, and then complain that critics are the ones being paid off.
I don't look at reviews full stop. I buy the game and if I don't like it, it gets refunded. Critics don't know what I want only I do. I love the new mass effect for example but critics were only giving it a 6/7.
Totally agree, genuinely sad as I played from the start Atari, c64 etc games are just dull now, you never get stuck and have to work on a level, just walked though cod 4 in a few hours
3ndeavor Not really. It's never the tools fault. For every leisure we have in 1st world countries there are just as many healthy compliments to go along side it. A tool to make your life easier cannot make you unhealthy unless you neglect yourself.
Casualization, linearity and scripted sequences are what's killing modern games. Hand holding, glowing objects, xray vision, bad AI, invisible walls and unplayable events have got to GO. Devs underestimate the average consumer's skill and neutering a game hurts everyone in the long run.
Let me clear this up: linearity is NOT a problem AT ALL. How do you think Ghost Trick can be the best game ever if it's a completely linear adventure game? I mean, it's a puzzle game, so maybe it's not _that_ linear (although the puzzles themselves are linear), but then how can Ace Attorney be the second best ever if it's just a 100% linear visual novel? No AI, no hand-holding, no gameplay at all, just dialogue, investigations, testimony, and absolutely mind-blowing storytelling.
I feel like gamers are part of the problem. they feed big corporations money by buying games they don't like, complain about it, then when did corporation tries to fix it they complain slightly less or even more
Well that's a lose lose situation that can't be fixed if the problem is with the gamers and the devs. And to complain less and more. I don't understand that is the the same as saying devs do good and bad games and the gamers are happy and sad it's a redundant saying
How do you complain about a game you haven't bought? The problem is an honest review has come with a $60 price tag. In my personal opinion, in this day and age, I think every single game should have a demo. Remember demos? I don't understand why they've completely disappeared. I don't understand why every single game doesn't have a playable demo nowadays, other then they can't trick people into buying their terrible games.
Games aren't getting worse. You just need to pay them 12 times to get the DLCs that unlock basic features that should have been available from the start.
The game reviewer I FUCKING HATE the most is Peter Brown, lead reviewer for GameSpot. The first thing that comes to mind every time I see or hear his voice is shady under the table bribe taking for positive reviews. how he still has a job I just don't understand because all of his reviews have so much more dislikes and negative comments than any other reviews. He just waffles out the same formulaic BS like he is reading a college thesis. Over the years I thought he would have just got sacked but no GameSpot make him fucking lead reviewer. Him and his sort are why the game industry is starting to implode so spectacularly at this point in time.
Storytelling needs to get better rather the focus on graphics. Look at Uncharted, Witcher 3 and The Last of Us. They got the storytelling to a top notch level and as an added bonus, they look fantastic. Other games mostly focus on just looking fantastic with no real content. Game Devs. need to focus less on marketing and graphics and start hiring some storytellers.
I think stories has become an issue in games lately, rather than a benefit. You want a story? Watch a movie. They should rather focus on making their game fun to play without getting stale. Things like. Different game modes, mini-games, couch co-op, unlockables, level/character/weapon/stage progression. Things like that.
I don't feel like replaying story heavy games. Once i know the story, there's no reason to play it again. Unless there's more to find that you might have missed the first time, which isn't part of the story. I keep going back to Rocket League again and again, couse it's fun to play. A good story does help to make the game much more interresting but if that's the main focus of the entire game, then it falls flat as a game. Then rather make it a movie instead. The ones i'm reffering to are The Last of Us, Uncharted 4 and looks like God of War is going down that road too.
The reason games are getting worse is because consumers let publishers get away with selling them shit. Why should they do better when they can make billions off people with low standards?
The fact that a game is patched after release doesn't matter at all. For f2p games, it makes perfect sense, balance patches are ok in any game as long as it's only stat twiking. But a AAA game full fucking price better be polished as fuck. Missing game modes are not forgivable, glitches are not forgivable. Fuck the video game industry right now, everyone go to MOBAs and other f2p games with honest features. PALADINS, HEROES OF THE STORM, LOL, DOTA, SMITE, TF2, ROBOCRAFT, PLANETSIDE 2, PATH OF EXILE, SHIT TON OF OTHER FREE AND HONEST GAMES. Why would you ever pay full price for the next Ubishit or Actividump ?
Not everyone likes to play games with shit tones of microtransactions, most games that you mentioned are p2w or at least P2P. You should be rewarded by skill and time invested in a game , not by how much money you have in real life.
Chace Do imo minor glitches is okay. sometimes its unavoidable. but most games has major glitches which stopping me from playing even single player mode. that's bullshit for sure.
I say the biggest thing fucking up our games is pre orders. If a game already makes a lot of money before it comes out then they just half ass it and push it out the door.
Games are a part of this world. But Money has become our God. The most games are not created for us anymore, the people, instead to get our money. You know what iam talking about, when the old MW2 days and Halo Reach days are gone and you moved on to PC, to enjoy a better variety of games. At the end you have over 1000hours playtime on freaking CS go, with so much money wasted on Skins, because it was fun and you dont know what else to play. You know what iam talking about when hypetrains end in big refunds. Honestly i lost every Hype.. I have over 100games on my steam library, but i only play 3 of them. Every time i wanna play i must think about what game to play, not because they are all so good, instead because they do all frustrate on their own way. I try not supporting this shitty industry anymore, good times are over.. In the end you play a strategy game from 2002 with a mod from a modding team that creats better games than some shitty game Studios.
How to mitigate the p2w trend and relive the MW2 glory days: 1. Buy Titanfall 2 2. Play Titanfall 2 Campaign 3. Play Titanfall 2 Multiplayer 4. Enjoy Titanfall 2's 100% Free DLC 5. Regain faith in the gaming industry
IBennx77I I feel so bored of games now and I started playing fallout New Vegas for the first time and I was like wow Fallout 4 is shit compared to this the graphics may be better but the experience is shit. I really can’t find new games interesting too because it’s no longer progress when you level up and more or less gambling. Games just loose playability and fun with all these nerfs to things that make the game fun for balance and when everything is balanced the game is no longer fun.
The answer is simple the focus on graphics is what ruining games instead of focusing on gameplay and story just look at how Scorpio is being marketed all what they are talking about is the graphics and performance not on the experience and games
frozen b agreed and when someone makes a game with worse graphics but better story and gameplay its being bombarded with bad reviews beacuse of 10 year olds here just look at me4 it has decent story and gameplay but people are hating on it beacuse there is no old characters and no facial animations... i mean... that's just dumb!
I've played hundreds and thousands of hours of games, but in the last 8 months I've turned on my PS4 a handful of times.. The games market is shit, we had so much variety last generation. I'm close to selling my console and buying a pc to play 5 year old games that were actually good.
Ok, I'll get hate for this, but my theory is gamers got to interested in Graphics, and complained enough to get Game Devs to work on Graphics, but causing there to be to much time developing graphics rather than other parts of games. It's a major consequence of people wanting so much but not realizing the cons to getting what they want until it's to late.
The industry is focusing on quantity and not quality, plus micro-transactions and loot boxes. EA is the worst, they set the trend for micro-transactions as well as business practices, look at how they fucked over Respawn. They intentionally set Titanfall 2 in between Battlefield 1 and Call of Duty just to soften sales and soften up Respawn for a buyout and then implement all these bonuses per Metacritic scores etc. Titanfall 2 was the best game and I still play it, also Rainbow Six Siege I still play since I got it in release in 2015. Activison and EA are the prime evils in the industry that are setting the bastard standard of micro-transactions and Loot-Boxes. All this started with the rise of Mobile Gaming and its practices which have carried over to mainstream gaming. Look at how EA forced implemented it on Mass Effect 3 with its forced online and play an app to improve your percentage of readiness in the last part.
dbachos I don't recall mentioning any of those games in my comment. I mean I thought it was clear I talking about a large portion of games that happen to be AAA corporate dog shit. We're lucky if we get a game that can even come close to the Witcher 3 within the year. Fallout 4 was pretty bad. Really fun, but the writing for that game was awful. Wide as an ocean, deep as a pond.
AAA A Huh? Wow so calling a game and the industry on its very obvious flaws makes my opinion "unoriginal" thus unvalidated? I want my games and entertainment to have well written and developed stories, fucking shoot me? How does it feel to be a pretentious douchbag on the internet?
Also Witcher 3 made no sense when it came to having to "re"learn all the alchemy, you played as a master witcher why are you having to learn stuff you should already know.
I agree with you 100% about the "rush to market" and the "We'll finish the game later with patches and DLC" is hurting the industry. It is really killing most new games. I wish Video Game executives would listen to everything you just said. On the brighter side, STAR TREK ONLINE, THE WITCHER 3, and UNCHARTED 4, are proof that at least SOME game developers can still put out some AMAZINGLY GREAT games.
The "bad games coin" has two sides. The ignorant fanboys who pre-order anything, even if they don't even know what the game's gonna be. And the big bad companies like EA Ubisoft and Activision, that take the opportunity to milk the shit out of their customers. If people would stop falling for these cheap moneygrab tricks, games would eventually get finished and better. But then there are still studios like CD Projekt Red that actually care for the gamers, treat them with respect and take their time to make awesome masterpieces of games.
I don't understand why people would buy a game that doesn't exist yet. Imagine you go to a car lot and buy a car on the promise "When we finish this car we'll give it to you with an extra cupholder for your wait"
I'll tell you why games are flopping more so now then ever. It's because we are being ripped off and conned by games companies and developers. I'll never pay for an EA game again or another so called BIG BUDGET like BATMAN etc. Why? Arkham knight cost me £50 PLUS £30 for DLC Campaign done in 15 hours. DLC was some crap 2 hour add on and some shit suits. So let's call it 25 hours MAX £85 The Witcher 3 £40 200 hours gameplay on death march. 16 weeks FREE DLC upon release where they gave away side quests , weapons and little treats in the game. Then the DLC was £30 I think for two add ons. First last about 15 hours , the second about 40 hours to complete everything. So you can clearly see The Witcher gave me hundreds of hours gameplay for £35 less than Batman which looked pretty but was completed over fri/sat night. I have not touched the game since. Why would I ? Gamers are waking up to this bullcrap and waiting for the developers they know actually supply what they promise. I won't purchase another COD or BF game, in fact I wouldn't even want them for free. This is 2017 all planned out..... Horizon Zero Dawn Shadow of war The Witcher 3 (as I feel like going back to do the lot again) Nioh Automata God of war Red dead 2 Maybe a couple of others. I'll not spend full wack on any game unless it's by teams like CD PROJEKT RED etc cos I know what I'm getting for my money. Good luck gamers and don't be fooled into buying these DAY1 £89 rip offs like MASS EFFECT. I'm telling you right now it will be fucked for the first 6/8 months. But it at Xmas for £20 sale when it have been patched and actually work.
ChelseaFC _Buzz I agree with pretty much everything of what you said, but Mass Effect is not as bad as people say it is. I spent $50 on the game and I definently feel like I got my moneys worth.
DinkleDigeroo I was excited for Cyber but it just looks like a shooter now. With online DLC etc. I was hoping that it would be in the same style as Witcher camera wise. Skills with guns to hit people etc. But it will be great I know. Also it’s the little things CDPR did. You see the short video they did after Witcher 3? In the house ? Like a big thanks to the fans? Try look it up if you ain’t seen it. It’s really great
I also think that we now expect a lot more from games than we did ten years ago. For instance Witcher 3 came out and now everything in a similar genre will be compared to it and we will expect more from every other game. It raised the bar.
Steam should add a feature by the help of which if a game is not felt completed or found glitched up by community will take it off steam and give a message to all developers to fix their shit up and this would also scare other devs resulting no more incomplete titles. ;-)
I think the problem is that publishers have too much control. It's the same thing that has happened to the blockbuster film industry which has produced very expensive vapid experienced that favour style over substance. Imagine if book publishers, or fine art publishers did the same thing - it would destroy the industry, thankfully these two mediums are comparatively cheap to produce. It's the curse of mixing art with money. The music industry used to be just as bad but over the last 15 years the cost of producing and marketing music has diminished to such an extent that passion projects and independent artists are able to enjoy success along side the major record labels. We are starting to see a similar thing happen to gaming where using pre-made assets and games engines has made it easier for indy devs to create and distribute their work. However producing a good game, even a simple one will always be an extremely labour intensive endeavour and has resulted in the indy scene awash with substandard titles aimed at making money. In other words it's a lot less feasible to create a game as a passion project than an album, book or artwork. I think that there is still hope if studios like CD Project Red are able to continue calling the shots when it come to their own games and not have publishers meddle in a Ubisoft / Destiny kinda way. Unfortunately even Rockstar seem to be slowly leaning towards online content and micro transactions in favour of a solid single player experience. I think as consumers we need to celebrate games as art, games made in the right environment and games made with passion.
The mid-late 90s, 2000s and 2010/2011 were all part of the golden age of gaming. 2012+ feels like these developers want to try to make things realistic without actually trying to put effort in the actual gameplay. I see it as this: 90s > 00s > 80s > 10s
Microtransactions and ultimate editions/season passes in full priced games are something that I hope become a thing of the past. It's bad enough that when I leave the house, everywhere I look someone wants to squeeze money out of anyone they can. Now I can't get away from it in my own home.
+Pretty Good Gaming The problem with the game industry this days is simple. The games are in fact worst! The games come out unfinish with a lot of bugs and glitch's! And also with bullshit pre order bonus, DLCs and microtransactions. Gamers don't trust the in the game companies anymore! Most gamers these days prefer to play or buy old games. I am one of that cases.
I remember like 5 years ago , everybody was talking bout video games and they were so hooked on it. Gaming franchises were coming up with so many new ideas and concepts. And we all enjoyed laughing at the gimmicks. Now it seems .. boring. Its a shell of itself and the spirt is not there anymore
I was talking to my girlfriend about this exact issue and how back when we had the original playstation or even the ps2 and xbox the games were better designed and developers didn't have to count on patches to clean up what should of been cleaned before they tossed it onto the shelfs. Thank you for creating this for the world to see because I thought I was the only one thinking this!
Not only that but if games were REALLY bad enough or had serious bugs publishers had to actually change the printing press and their would be two versions of a game
Ruud de Zwart she is supposed to be and look tribal and her body looks relatively good and obviously it would logically look the way it is beacuse she is in a tribal like world where fighting,running and lifting heavy objects very common so it is obvious she wouldn't look like some fanservice girl and would look more realistic but some games like witcher 3 obviously female characters would look very feminine beacuse they aren't really doing any action related thing so yeah and it has higher tech so that means there will be cosmetics like makeup and such
Fuck them games, your channel is getting fucking ridiculously good, it's been good from the start, but dudes, these last few weeks you've easily come on top of all other you tube gaming-oriented channels IMO.
More incentive for us to pirate games. Who knows, maybe developers will take time to make a game worth buying, instead of something with 3 enjoyable gameplay hours and 17 DLCs each costing as much as the game itself.
People always give Uncharted 4 as an example of a good game. It's an incredibly shallow game in every way. No wonder most games today are crap when people think Uncharted 4 is the perfect game. Example of a good modern game would be Dishonored 1 and 2. Not The Witcher 3 because it lacks in the gameplay department, it's more about quantity than quality. I feel like people, the consumers are partially to blame for crap games, or at least for games that are crap in my opinion.
Cuphead, Subnautica, Edith Finch, Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Hollow Knight, A Hat in Time, Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Hellblade, Resident Evil 7, Neir Automata, Assassin's Creed Origins, Prey, Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Sonic Mania, South Park, For Honor, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, etc.
Was mainly taking about "AAA" games. Low budget indie games can be surprisingly good, partially because you don't expect much from them, well I don't. I don't agree with the open world games or overly cinematic "interactive movie" games though. Never really liked them, were cool when they first started to appear. Not saying they're bad. I'm just looking for games that I like. Oh and I only have PC and ps4. I will take a closer look at the games you mentioned.. I have Subnautica, but got bored of the endless exploration and crafting like .. I like good gameplay, level design. A good story with interesting characters won't hurt either. Only good thing about Subnautica is the atmosphere.
The annoying thing about modern video games, is that they're always focusing on incredible HD graphics, and TOO polished music. The games becomes flat, characterless, they all look the same, too polished, realistic, etc. I hate so much newer video games, they don't make me feel anything when I'm playing them. I really wish they could go back on those low-poly, or just more simple graphics and musics.
I think the biggest problem of all is that games put Hollywood on the pedestal. They're trending closer and closer to movies - more cutscenes, more scripted events. Modern day Hollywood is pretty shit, so the games ( in my eyes ) are coming ever closer to that turd status.
The gaming industry will be dead in 2018/2019. These gaming companies/developers are cancerous... not to mention newer games and consoles will have a higher cost.
Salt Taster Mr. Trump is going to increase prices...including importing anything that comes from japan or any other forgien country. Say goodbye to the gaming industry.
I have to agree that the push to rush games out the door, that clearly are unfinished needs to stop. Several of the franchises covering most of the genres feel compelled to rush games out on an annual basis but honestly is it needed? Delivering unfinished, unpolished, and untested games, which are just a mess, then the various devs should not be surprised at the negative feedback they get. The after-launch dlc stuff should stop as well, take the time to do the game right, and include the dlc in the game at launch. Stop the assembly line push and take the time to produce quality.
why is music geting more shti every year? why is anime getting more shit every year? games, well i think only movies are actually doing ok, besides that everything looks worse and worse every year in my opinion especially music is just garbage, dead, i don't listen to anything new i just can't i get cancer i can die, really fatal
MadLane In Astraga they have Crystal Web, Armoras, Z-0.9 and RRZ-7. Ok, what about the shows and the books, they are more books and they are better and it is the same for shows.
It was, another Uncharted. Not bad, but essentially, more of the same. If that's what you like, more power to you. If not, well you'll probably think it was shit. lol.
TheTjam84 I can agree with that. It was a great experience for me. I guess it depends on what you expect to get out of it. If I want deep gameplay I'll pick up a good RPG.
Story could've been longer GTA IV was like 86 missions and SA had 100. Also rather than making story of 3 men into one we could've had story mode DLC but R* is too busy milking online with these copy and paste updates.
Total Biscuit, ACG, Worth a Buy and Cosmic Engine are my go to guys, between them they pretty much cover every release and often don't agree but all make valid points that help me decide whether to drop the £££'s. I steer clear of the big boys, they're full of shit.
Sam Gissing I watched some videos of Worth a Buy. Ge seems like a cool dude, But his Quake Live review was a HUGE letdown for me. I am not gonna watch his stuff again
Miguel Pereira - Ah yeah, he has some extreme views on certain genres for sure, but after watching pretty much all of his content I know what he doesn't like and more importantly he explains WHY in detail,. I dont take reviews as gosepel, positive or negative but what you need to know is why in particular the reviewer doesn't like it, so you can agree or disagree, buy or not buy and WAB does that really well imo. Plus he's fucking hilarious :)
Nah, to veteran gamers these games may seem bad or repetitive, but to the younger audience like in middle school and high school these games are fresh and pretty new. Gaming feels fresh to me still because last gen I didn't play very many games either.
They're definitely getting worse in terms of what you get for your money. It costs like $100 for a complete game nowadays at launch once you add in season passes. But we're not really getting any better of an experience than we did 10 years ago when we got great full games for $60 at launch.
Simply put. Normies, the masses, the everyday people have infected gaming. It used to be interesting with games appealing to certain groups or tastes, a dedicated base of people coming back time and again. This of course all changed in the mid to late 00s in my view. Gaming reached a big turning point. They began shelling out massive budgets and the developers reached a conclusion. If they made their games more accessible the masses would adopt them and the developers would cash in A LOT more. So the games began to all sort of devolve into this pool of the same shit but different title/story or just being fun and easy. See Skyrim or Resident evil. I played Oblivion before Skyrim and just felt disappointed. The quests were too easy and the gameplay wasn't all that unique from it's predecessor. On top of being completely unoriginal Skyrim devolved into a mod fest which is all it's worth because Thomas the tank engine makes for a much more interesting dragon than the dragons themselves. Resident evil devolved into a action shooter with boring linear gameplay and various quick time events. The problem isn't even that the games are terrible but that they're just mediocre. They choose to be good in every last little thing instead of picking a specific group to appeal too. They dare to be the same rather then striking out for that dedicated fan-base that will come back again and again. It happened to Hollywood and now it happened to games. Seriously and no joke the only games that are worth playing in my book are Disgaea and indie titles like binding of isaac and organ trail. They dare to be creative yet seek to just tickle our craving for a good game that lasts us more than two seconds. They have tons of challenges that would take a long time to complete but feel so satisfying when done. This is why I game. It's for challenge and for something interesting that gets me to think or remember certain things in different orders. I think soon it might be time to trade in the controller for some good books and a new hobby like hunting or fishing. I've definitely slid off the gaming train the past couple of years and just haven't sparked with many newer games. I'm pretty young too. I just can't find that excitement in anything made after 2009 that isn't a JRPG, disgaea or counter strike. Just so many terrible and boring games.
2003 was the holy grail of gaming imo, the market was just about big enough for developers to make big-budget games yet small enough to mostly have passionate devs and gamers. Most gamers nowadays don't know or even care about games other than CoD/Fornite and cringy ''gaming youtubers'' like Markiplier, but because there's so frigging many of them the business vultures arrived catering to just that. In a weird way I feel like my hobby got stolen from me.
Metacritic-shmetacritic... marketing... Games were made for gamers back in the days. Today everybody's a "gamer" and games are being made for everybody. And 'everybody' is not a customer that you care about and not even a customer that can tell a good game from crap. Companies that were making games for gamers went bankrupt and can't exist in todays situation when they need to make a really good game for gamers at the same time catering to all them children, housewives and sales managers. Game industry for gamers pretty much died when all them people who call Diablo an RPG and leveling and unlocking stuff - role playing elements came to scene.
they rush they games to much and expect us to buy expansion backs? i remeber back then when games had heart and you were able to unlock the extras, childhood games will live on then games released now
Damaso Castillo Rockstar had over 5 years on GTA 5 and it was still rushed and unfinished. After 3 years I can openly said it was utter trash compared to past GTA games.
Alex Chavira he's not retarded at all. The game is pure trash when compared to any other gta game. 4 was a lot better than 5 in both single and multiplayer. Vice city in my opinion is hands down the best one they've ever made. Gta 3 is better than 5. Even the little vice city and liberty city stories games were better than 5. 5s story was short and has zero replay value unless you want a trophy/achievement. Only reason people would claim to "love" gta 5 is because the online you get to make a person and build them up from rags to riches.
Alex Chavira that's all gta 5 has going for it is the multiplayer. I mean... Obviously the campaign is ass. Otherwise gamers wouldn't be so gung-ho over a single player expansion. Idk how many times i beat vice city and gta 3. But i can tell you how many times i beat 5 using 1 finger. Don't be a kiss ass man, i like rockstar cause they're pretty much the only AAA company that always guarantees a great ass game. But i admit 5 could've been a hellava lot better
Micro transactions messed it all up. Triple A games now have no reason to release a completed game, when they can just release half a game, and charge the rest as dlc. I really don't think gaming quality well recover. Instead the new generation of gamers we'll see this as normal, and even expect micro transactions, dlc, and look forward to it.
Good vid. Main probs defo imclude 1) Relying on DLC 2) A lack of love/care + copy-paste approach 3) A lack of risk taking & a safety first approaches 4) general corporate bullshit killing creativity.
DLC. Developers are releasing incomplete games. Even the games that have been heavily praised are being plagued by DLC. The developers of Final Fantasy 15 said they're not keen on release a part 2 to the story. They'd rather touch up on pre-existing resources by shipping DLC's, because they know their customers will buy them! DLC is a shameless cash grab that plagues the quality of games we used to expect. This is why I'm heavily faithful to Nintendo. They're not afraid to delve into their creativity. Sure they'll offer us DLC for games we love, but it doesn't stop them from being on a constant quest for giving us amazingly creative and unique games yearly. Thank you Nintendo!
I just feel when I was younger I would play a game for hours on end for months and months where as now I have fun with a game for a few weeks and then it just feels repetitive and recycled
The gaming industry has become commercialized. Number one priority is making money and quality be damned. Endless COD clones, money sucking DLC. It really doesn't surprise me that people identify 2001 as peak game with all the crap that's around now. There's only a handful of games out in the past decade that I'd consider classics. The years from N64/ps1/xbox-GC/ps2/x360 spawned countless and moved gaming forwards a huge amount. The silver lining is that even if the gaming industry is 90% rubbish there are still gems around and especially if you go back in time. Also, steam sales are cheap as chips.
The gaming world feels kinda ruined lately. The problem with modern gaming is that there is lack of fludity in games, everything may look beautiful, indeed but lacks the creativity, immersion, feeling and originality. For the most part tasks feel like a chore and are often pretty meaningless. Then there is griding, oh my god how much hate greedy grinding and for the most part the whole free2play concept, the microtransactions... the collectibles, the achievements, the DLCs, the season passes, the preorders. The only achievements I like are actually called Challenges in Uplay, at least you get points that you can spend in unlocking exclusive content to be playable in game or getting a discount on your next purchase. Preorders... A game gets shown on E3 and they are already pushing preorders down your throat! ... Let's also talk about steam direct for example, it is way worse than greenlight, we have a shitstorm of shitty games all of the sudden, where before greenlight required games to be greenlit by steam users, now it's all direct, there is no user voting involved, and so we have the said shitstorm... Online competitive multiplayer games are being ruined by trolls and cheaters, hackers and glitchers ... Open world games will make you spend a whole lot of your life doing the same things over and over, and even if they seemed exciting at first, they quickly get boring, tiring and they feel like a chore. VR titles gets also pushed down our throats on steam, although the vast majority dos not play in VR or desires to. Alas steam still makes you lose your precious time by promoting those games to you, even if you told your settings specificly not to do so. Lastly, today we even have people who play games just for getting cards and achievements, which is pathetic, imo. I most likely forgot to mention still a ton of things but yes, sadly such is the world of modern gaming today.
Agree with you all the way. I refuse to purchase any game that has preorder bonus, exclusive content, season passes or micro transactions. Over the last 25 years have purchased approx 40-50 new games per year, but that now is only 2-3 games per year due to the industry grabbing more money all the time and not giving you a finished game but wanting more money out of you for the game you purchased in full. Modern games all seem to play the same way and even though they look great, they are barely fun after a short time. Games are becoming pay to win, and soon main parts of a game will be locked out and won’t even be able to complete them unless you pay for extra content to allow you to finish the game. I plead with all gamers to stop purchasing dlc, season passes, and micro transactions as you are justifying what is happening here, and it will only get worse as has been seen over the last 10 years. This is the new normal and it should not be. One price for one game with all content included so there are no advantages. DLC should be made because the game sold well and the developers want to support the game before a sequel. Extras in a game should be unlocked by playing the game and using skill and effort.
My opinion? i switched back to my roots, the pc, play path of exile and cs:go nothing more. i think everything these days is dull/dumb and boring and just "hype". im out. sorry for my english, would/could explain more in native german ;) ofc some few gems, few indies or witcher 3. but im sick of triple a mainstream console market EDIT: playing for honor beta right now... yea.. not buying this...
Games are not getting worse, people simply buy the wrong games, demanding always the same stuff (military shooter and open world gangsta bullshit) and they are getting too fast excited by marketing campaigns, instead of waiting one or two weeks after release with the purchase of the game. So you will always have your Call of Duty, Battlefield, Ubisoft generic open world here and Activision and EA dlc politics there. And then there are games like Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Metal Gear Solid V, Batman Arkham Knight, Nioh, Dark Souls 3, Nier Automata, Zelda Breath of the Wild, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Hitman, Horizon, and so on.
Old video, but I'm going to leave my comment anyway. I see people give CD Projekt Red a pass because the put out good games, but don't forget the bullshit they pulled with the graphical downgrade at the release of the Witcher 3. This industry is so damn tainted, not even the "Good Guys" are exempt from trying to scam consumers out of their money. They're all equally greedy and corporate. There's no saving it, aside from getting into the development side of things yourself and making games as a hobby purely for your own enjoyment.
+Walther Penne You're a fucking idiot. Kinda weird that PC's "died", yet they are still better than console. Also you're an idiot if you think crap that came before 2005 is better than what we have now.
Mr Owns The 6th gen was pretty much THE goldrn age of gaming because the creativity from the late 90's met with the refinement of new technology to create some of the best games ever. (Seriously like 70% of the best games ever came out on the 6th gen) But yeah I don't see why he said that PC died. Maybe he was talking about the specific type of games that were used to be PC exclusive and had features that were exclusive to PC, but I dunno
+Rajbir Singh Last of Us was released few years ago now when games were still okay, nowadays alot of AAA games are the same with the Ranking system, weapon attachments, customization. Indie games are equally guilty as a bulk of Indie games are survival games based on crafting stuff to survive a open world. This industry is going downhill fast not just because of unfinished games, but also because they are becoming the same thing.
I have just started playing Gran Turismo 3 and the nostalgia was a kind relief considering how my PS4 experience was a dull, over rated tedium that never got better and so I just sold it the other day, to try out the Xbox one. (So far, I feel underwhelmed by that as well) - I thought that gaming was always a passion for everyone involved in the industry but now it’s clear to see its nothing more than a means to bleed people of their hard earned cash and the massive downhill descent, which is clearly visible to those who pay attention, doesn’t seem to be able to stop from plummeting further and further into the depths of despair and ruin. I am glad that I can pick up my PlayStation 2 controller and revisit those beloved and simple times where games were enjoyable but with the way that modern gaming is today I don’t really see the point in the game industry even existing anymore other then to deceive people into forking out bucket loads of their money to fuel future ventures by these huge companies only to be continuously disappointed by the results. It’s an ‘uroboros’ of bullshit that is surely the end of days for all those who enjoyed being able to spend a little bit of money for some entertainment that they could enjoy anytime of the day and without leaving their home but soon enough it will be an expensive luxury which won’t be worth your time unless you have a stupid amount of money to burn and a serious amount of time to waste.
The reason why games are getting horrible is because of DLC, Microtransactions and incomplete, glitchy games. This is the story: EA, Activision and Ubisoft flew in the dark gaming skies. EA saw three heroes appear. Ice Dragon, Fire Demon, Thunder Bird. Ice Dragon blasted beams of ice at EA. EA Created a Sword made out of money. Ice Dragon ran away and he created several clones of ice. Ice Dragon's clones came at EA. They all prepare to punch EA. EA got punched twice and EA created Vines of money. Fire Demon Stomped and he created a earthquake of magma, Ubisoft dodged the earthquake but he got hit by EA's Vines of money. Thunderbird blasted beams of electricity. Activision created a sword made out of money. Activision got hit by the electricity beams, LIKE TO MAKE GOOD GUYS WIN ,DISLIKE TO MAKE BAD GUYS WIN. DON'T LIKE OR DISLIKE WITHOUT TELLING ME THAT YOU LIKED OR DISLIKED.
Games have definitely gotten worse. But this has nothing to do with Day-one-patches or buggy versions. It's because today's generation of gamers is heavily populated by morons not able to hold a controller straight. And these gamers led to the trend to change games from being story-supported challenges to overcome with skill and passion to interactive bedtime stories with playthrough-guarantee. No wonder every other today's game feel just like the last one.
Also to blame for the shitty free to play mobile-like games surge on consoles, and all the competitive games that are designed to make everyone feel like they're winners.
I hate when I want to play Odyssey, and the uplay tells me I have to update. Then I switch to offline mode and the problem is solved. I am not gonna wait for 5 hours again...
The single most important thing about story is the tone difference between Mythic and Ironic as wrote by Northrop Frye in Anatomy of Criticism (The Theory of Modes). Which one is your game? Does the game shift from one to the other, or is it just thematic with a low mimetic tone?
Biggest problem for me is no spilt screen in games! As a kid I used to love having mates over. getting help and having fun together. Now most games need the Internet and two consoles/plus to do this, multi player now just means play online.
Games are getting worse ? No. The industry in itself is becoming shitty, yes, with all the dlcs and unfinished games, but games aren't getting worse at all. We had good games in the past and we'll have as much good games in the future.
there needs to be more passionate people who LOVE working on games instead of people who see games as a way to make money
The passion and talent is there in AAA but it so often gets drowned out by the business and marketing side of things. That's why so many go indie.
Pretty Good Gaming which is really saddening. I'm certainly going to stick to working on indie.
Pretty Good Gaming I'm taking video games design in High School and I have some passion for working on games
ProtonCannon hopefully this could change...but I doubt it
there are their is Kickstarters and indie devs, but AAA devs don't care for passion and prefer to keep games the same because people buy it look at Activision or EA they basically sell the same games Evey year with a different name and some changes.
This is because big game companies are run by businessmen focusing on profit instead of quality, and the main demographic are 8 year olds with consoles. Dont even get me started on dlc/micropay.
Armesis P that is part of the reason, but there is also the fact that with video games there was a greater obligation to innovate as better technology became available. The sonic series is a good example of this, as well as the jrpg genre as a whole. This is an industry that is extremely dynamic and therefore it would be hard to keep up with the changing times.
I feel all games should utilize microtransactions only to offer players greater non advantage things not necessarily cosmetics only but if they get a gun it should be too powerful compared to a gun in its class even if its a higher level gun.
Iamyouonlydifferent not really. A lot of 10 year olds have access to their parents bank accounts, and are more likely to spend their allowance/holiday money because they havent learned how to be responsible with cash yet.
Iamyouonlydifferent maybe, but who is more likely to spend more per capita of the two demographics? Especially when your content is rushed and sub par. I would bet younger kids.
You are missing my point. 30 year olds have way more income to dispose of. But because of age, they are usually smarter at what they spend that money on. If I as an adult have 300 bucks to spend, and spend 20 on a game I like, that is the effective amount of profit for that gaming company. If I'm 16 and I have 60 bucks, and I spend 50 on that same game, I may have less income, but the company has more effective profits. Moreover as an adult, having played way more games and experienced what makes good games good, I have a better understanding of content worth buying. If you can't as a company produce worthwhile content, wouldn't it be smarter to maximize profits by pumping out content to try and capture the area of the market that is more susceptible to gimmicks, regardless of how good that content is?
#1 DLC #2 microtransactions #3 broken unfinished games.
I would put those all under one category.
Plus patch patch patch ugh enough of the fucking patches and updates..
Jesse Sasaki
#1 piracy
Sher Randhawa Piracy is widely available since web 2.0. It's obviously not the reason.
Piracy is a symptom not the disease. If games had fair pricing more people would buy them, as Steam sales show. If I as a potential buyer think that a particular game is not worth my money yet I still want to try it out, then I'll pirate it.
Reasons games are worse:
1. Yearly releases.
2. Apologist fans that let bad games slide because it was their favorite franchise.
3. The ability to add DLC/Patches encourages the release of unfinished games.
4. Huge companies like EA who put profit before quality.
5. Lack of innovation. Developers are afraid to experiment.
6. Lack of variety. Everything is an FPS or TPS now.
7. Online Multiplayer is often used as an excuse to ignore the Single Player or Couch Co-Op experience.
8. Loot boxes.
9. Amazing games that go unnoticed because of some AAA title that came out.
10. Shorter attention span of gamers.
The list could go on and on.
Saber0003 I agree
Saber0003 the problem with 5 is that gamers often expect it to be the same as it was earlier. Look at advanced warfare for example, I enjoyed it a lot but a lot of nostalgia gamers were saying it was shit and they hated the futuristic setting.
Couldn’t agree more, especially with 5,6 and 7
Saber0003 u forgot all the pc crap
You're extremely wrong on #2 because the fans that support the decline are newer ones who don't know any better.
Fallout 4 was a lot of players first experience in Fallout and to them its amazing, but kf they player the other games they'll see its shit.
Skyrim fans are the worst, the other games are way better and Bethesda and Valve are making shitty games (Fallout 76 and Artifact) DESPITE FANS PROTESTING EVERY SECOND.
A good rule of thumb I've been using since 2012, is if a game has a crap ton of marketing behind it. It's probably shit.
Destiny 1 and 2 in a nutshell.
same goes for anything advertised daily on your TV realy.
Adam Harrigan Great point!
True that. Nowadays you can go onto Steam and find a no-name company who made a game just as good as the new COD game. Big companies are too busy making crappy DLC's for 2 weeks after launch so they can get as much money as possible, and hiring as few people as possible to program the new game, so they can get as much money as possible. The programmers probably are told to just take the old game and retexture it, and add a few new entities, and rename it, that way the large company saves as much money as possible. I can't say whether or not having all these DLCs and expansion packs is a bad marketing plan or not, because every big company is still doing it, so it must be working.
Indeed. Note how Ace Attorney and especially Ghost Trick only have a few trailers (if not just one) and that's it.
So games are officially, statistically, measurably not as good as they were 15 years ago. We've put forward our theories as to why - but what do you guys think is causing the steady drop in 90+ metacritic scores?
the game industry needs another crash, the tactics that are using the producers have to stop, also reviewers that you can trust would be angry joe, and yahtzee croshaw (even if the later records videos based on comedy, it brings up the problems in a game, or whether its worth buying)
bloody early
jasfest what about Jim Sterling?
Pretty Good Gaming Publishers are too greedy not giving developers enough time to polish the games n again lack of creativity too much reskin
Pretty Good Gaming They pay the reviewers to get 90+ scores
I always go to Kotaku for their game reviews. If they hate the game, it's an instant buy.
Haha
Mr. Jever LOL
Lmao
Mr. Jever I wait out games I'm interested in and get them at low prices. But it's also a lot of gamers are too demanding.
Exactly, but ... they might dislike a game that is broken to begin with.
Too much graphics eye candy not enough story. Hollywood style.
mentalplayground yea, sadly that was gamers getting greedy, it's dumb gamers faults the industry is like this.
mentalplayground truth. Just like how michael bay ruined transformers. All flash - no substance
Jessie S truth be told transformers never had real "substance". it's always been about cool ass robot aliens...
HiveTyrant36 I would argue that the underlying themes, overarching plot, and character development all gave both the avengers movies more substance. certainly enough to not lump them with the transformers franchise. joss whedon dammit...
HiveTyrant36 wow a friendly response. thumbs up. prosperity to you and your family sir. love and respect
It's simple. Commercialization ruins artistic creativity.
gaming has become more about business than what it was before
If us gamers have to pay full price for a game then it should be a fully completed game. Not this crap of patching major issues months after release. Most gamers will have moved on by that time.
Full price in 2017 would be $100. You arent recieving full games because no one is willing to pay full price. Inflation is very real.
Wylie28 someone understands
How about this brilliant thing called
Making a game that is *worth* the full price?
+Wylie28 Than why can R* pull it off to make a $60 game full of content, years long free DLC support and still make $800m in profits? It's because they build a reputation for delivering quality products, which gets rewarded by the community with a boost in sales.
Cutting corners and selling shitty day 1 DLC's isn't the only way to make money, it's just the lazy way.
Wylie28 i doubt that is true, games use digital media, online marketing both save tons in money. The issue is bad design goals, making games milkable rather than just a good game which could sell very well and eventually be milked, but they want all that upfront, over paying for resources and giving the coders less time to refine.
at the middle of the video i had planned to write a big comment.
by the end i realized the comment would have been almost identical to the script of the video
That means we did our job right. Thanks!
Pretty Good Gaming yeah. i found you recently and i almost immediately subbed.
seems like you are thinking in the right direction and say the things like they are, without trying to sugarcoat it. which i appreciate very much.
as for the issue of the video, i think we are in the middle of a transition, maybe a specific type of crisis. all the things that became a standard in the past few years, like the capability to be always online of almost all gamers, the newly found things like microtransaction and dlcs and patches and all of those. I just think companies are still figuring out how much they can push those without us complaining. in a way they are experimenting.
and of course some of them are just being lazy.
We see a transition of trends every time a generation of gamers grow more independent in their preferences, rather than piggybacking a trend. This results in fragmentation of playerbases and then some industry giant comes along and puts their focus on one of those fragmentations and then that becomes a trend.
I'm not that knowledgeable about every genre, but as far as competitive multiplayer FPS goes - military shooters have definitely had their run. I think we're reverting back to the more unrealistic and whacky types of FPS such as Overwatch and maybe in a long shot; Quake Champions. I think eventually 1v1 might also become trendy once again, as it's been a pretty dormant market - free for anyone's taking for a while. By comparison, team games are very tough competition.
What do you mean by team games? The ones like military shooters you mentioned?
P. S. I can't imagine I'm saying it, but I'm very pleased to see a person with good grammar and proper spelling. It is a rarity in comment section, unfortunately.
games are bad, movies are bad even music is bad... because it's all part of the plannn!
_Cloud_ illuminati
red asylum in Greek it is "Lateinos" meaning the"Latin man" and the sum of "Lateinis" is 666, the name of the beast (from the sea, multitude of nations, ie world empire)
Our world = "Lateinos" world = 666 world.
Where the dead body (Lateinos world) lies, vultures will gather.
Base of science is in "Latin"... Law, medicine, all scientific naming, the building block of society "Latin".
Thus the genre of games will be massively towards war, killing, shooting... because that is what the world is and what chooks, cattles & slaves of the world are feed, renforced, hypnotised & programmed to like & do...
Latin man
Mystery language of choice on $US 1 note? Latin... Mason the builders, Mason builders of the world.
Of Mystery Babylon the Great, the purple clothed harlot that sits on the scarlet Beast (image of the beast, that is UN, United Nation)
The stone that the builder rejected have become the corner-stone, and it is beautiful in our eyes.
red asylum agreed, music does not even exist. Merely a cacophony of awful noises
red asylum 'MURICA!!
I don't know if its a plan or just an Invasion of the Suits situation. When the bean counters start running the creative side of any media production things usually go down the crapper quite fast. So, it may be a plannnn! ;) Or it may be just the companies getting conservative in their old age.
Not looking forward to their getting senile.
The games industry used to be a thriving hub for innovation and experimentation. Then it was taken over by corporatists who look for formulas that they can just rinse and repeat to make the maximum amount of cash.
willywhonka games are much more expensive too make though now because of online. Many games were at most 20 dollars before like 2007 too so it was easier to market, try new games and since there weren't online they had more time to focus on all the features to the highest content.
Tactore 95
Wtf are you talking about?
Games have always been around the 60$ mark worldwide since the nes era.
Teemu M. You fail to take account of inflation.
50 about five years ago
Actually, games are only expensive because that's what the publishers and corporations says so.
They don't need to prove how expensive it is, and if it's viable to make similar quality games without said level of expense.
One aspect of games gaining expenses is likely years ago when 'copyright' over digital goods were in full front debate, where artists try to convey that they need to defend their works and sue the hell out of everyone who bats an eye at them.
Gaming used to be about journeying to new places or doing things you couldn't in real life. Nowadays devs and publishers only care about money, money, and money. Consumers don't help when they support this flawed system...
ProbablyNot FBI we’re all better off waiting a whole year before we buy any “new” games and until then we should all just buy older games that were obviously better “finished wise”.
OneFortune downfall of video games regret buying season pass for cod bo2 too many hackers many people give up me too downfall I see very soon
I remember when halo used to be good
QuantumFrost Bingo!!!!
2010, Reach man. That was the last good Halo ever in recent years.
I hope halo 6 is up
QuantumFrost I remember when consoles didn’t need to install disc
Trane Crowley I remember when it didn't take 4 hours to install. I remember when you could put a disc in and be in the game automatically.
Obviously ACG is the best reviewer
Blank Omega64 yep. Thorough, detailed and passionate about what he's saying. Good bloke.
Blank Omega64 agreed
I like his reviews, but lately I've been noticing that most titles seem to be "buys" from him. I haven't heard a really negative review from him in a while.
Preach!
toolshedvideo could be coincidence. Or he's spending his money wisely on games he thinks will be really good.
I just have to look at FIFA to see see how bad the gaming industry has fallen.
Raulito Mares nah the NBA 2k series is a lot worse
I wouldn't say they are shit per se, they are just overpriced for, as you say, basically an annual upgrade.
How so? What do you want them to do? FIFA in space? FIFA racing? I'm confused as to how you can use FIFA as a backdrop to judge the entire gaming industry. Most stupid comment in this entire thread.
Another great video PGG, keep it up!
CocoCream Gaming Are you a big football fan? You wouldn't understand. Their main focus is FUT every year. That's the only game mode they keep up to date. In proclubs, it still tells you reserving a spot is a new feature but its been on there 2 straight years. Career Mode is as good as dead.
CocoCream Gaming Are you a big football fan? You wouldn't understand. Their main focus is FUT every year. That's the only game mode they keep up to date. In proclubs, it still tells you reserving a spot is a new feature but its been on there 2 straight years. Career Mode is as good as dead.
You guys are doing the real talk that the industry needs, something which I can't believe mainstream game publications aren't already doing.
The biggest gaming sites are little more than extensions of the marketing teams of the big publishers. IGN is by far the most guilty in this regard.
They are paid shills.
Fals3Agent
which nintendo... says fuck it all to.
Metacritic is great because you get to see the disconnect between "experts" and real people
I'd be willing to bet half the 'experts' didn't even *play* the game they're writing a review on, just like that book in my English class.
Shit there's a test on Monday about that.
Older games also don't usually do microtransactions, DLC, and they often allow LAN PARTIES. Just putting that out there. And don't forget, you don't need to be always online to play.
When I look for reviews on buying a game on steam I ignore the good reviews and look for the bad ones
Lead The Fallen yeap if all the bad reviews have something in common there's a problem
Lead The Fallen I always find the mixed reviews to be the most interesting. Usually people will either love or hate a game, and will unconsciously ignore good or bad points accordingly. But a mixed review is often more honest and objective, giving both the good and bad points.
The good thing about steam is that they don't use a numbered review system. It's a joke when you look at negative reviews by users on metacritic. TONS of people gave Overwatch a 0 just because it didn't have a single player campaign. The game was never going to have a campaign and blizzard was very open about that. Not a valid review basically.
Then again. Users tend to hand out 10/10 reviews easier than critics do, and then complain that critics are the ones being paid off.
I don't look at reviews full stop. I buy the game and if I don't like it, it gets refunded. Critics don't know what I want only I do. I love the new mass effect for example but critics were only giving it a 6/7.
dlc killed gaming
Totally agree, genuinely sad as I played from the start Atari, c64 etc games are just dull now, you never get stuck and have to work on a level, just walked though cod 4 in a few hours
vlawd5 That's untrue. That's like saying "Cars made people fat".
vlawd5 that is like staying knives kill people. Would you get rid of it to fix murder? No it is useful! The way devs use it...now we have a problem
Bladezeromus I mean, that has a lot to do with it in the US
3ndeavor Not really. It's never the tools fault. For every leisure we have in 1st world countries there are just as many healthy compliments to go along side it.
A tool to make your life easier cannot make you unhealthy unless you neglect yourself.
Chaps, your channel is one of the best covering the games industry. Honest and amusing. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Dan!
Dan Tanner I was gonna like your comment but its at 69 likes. So I left it that way
Agreed! Love these two!
Yep. Can't believe that two blokes with a green screen, half decent mic and camera are some of my favourite commentators on video games
Dan Tanner yeah AMAZING like two brits sitting In a room with greenscreen
Casualization, linearity and scripted sequences are what's killing modern games. Hand holding, glowing objects, xray vision, bad AI, invisible walls and unplayable events have got to GO. Devs underestimate the average consumer's skill and neutering a game hurts everyone in the long run.
Skrenja Mafia III.
moahahaha if you hate handholding try escape from tarkov
Linear games are not the problem in my opinion,a linear game can be challenging.
Let me clear this up: linearity is NOT a problem AT ALL. How do you think Ghost Trick can be the best game ever if it's a completely linear adventure game? I mean, it's a puzzle game, so maybe it's not _that_ linear (although the puzzles themselves are linear), but then how can Ace Attorney be the second best ever if it's just a 100% linear visual novel? No AI, no hand-holding, no gameplay at all, just dialogue, investigations, testimony, and absolutely mind-blowing storytelling.
yet people also complain about open world games like make up your mind
I feel like gamers are part of the problem. they feed big corporations money by buying games they don't like, complain about it, then when did corporation tries to fix it they complain slightly less or even more
Well that's a lose lose situation that can't be fixed if the problem is with the gamers and the devs. And to complain less and more. I don't understand that is the the same as saying devs do good and bad games and the gamers are happy and sad it's a redundant saying
How do you complain about a game you haven't bought? The problem is an honest review has come with a $60 price tag. In my personal opinion, in this day and age, I think every single game should have a demo. Remember demos? I don't understand why they've completely disappeared. I don't understand why every single game doesn't have a playable demo nowadays, other then they can't trick people into buying their terrible games.
Games aren't getting worse. You just need to pay them 12 times to get the DLCs that unlock basic features that should have been available from the start.
StrategyJoe I prefer not buying their games. I never forgive, especially the likes of ea, activision and ubisoft
Eugene InLaw and sega
Eugene InLaw oh and paradox too
just decided to pull the plug on war of the vikings
the gamr is still there just no servers
The game reviewer I FUCKING HATE the most is Peter Brown, lead reviewer for GameSpot. The first thing that comes to mind every time I see or hear his voice is shady under the table bribe taking for positive reviews. how he still has a job I just don't understand because all of his reviews have so much more dislikes and negative comments than any other reviews. He just waffles out the same formulaic BS like he is reading a college thesis. Over the years I thought he would have just got sacked but no GameSpot make him fucking lead reviewer. Him and his sort are why the game industry is starting to implode so spectacularly at this point in time.
Storytelling needs to get better rather the focus on graphics.
Look at Uncharted, Witcher 3 and The Last of Us.
They got the storytelling to a top notch level and as an added bonus, they look fantastic.
Other games mostly focus on just looking fantastic with no real content.
Game Devs. need to focus less on marketing and graphics and start hiring some storytellers.
There I agree, witch I do believe Uncharted, The Last of Us and Witcher 3 achieved.
Definitely agree with you here Raggi, great comment
I think stories has become an issue in games lately, rather than a benefit. You want a story? Watch a movie. They should rather focus on making their game fun to play without getting stale. Things like. Different game modes, mini-games, couch co-op, unlockables, level/character/weapon/stage progression. Things like that.
A great story keeps you coming back to the game.
I don't feel like replaying story heavy games. Once i know the story, there's no reason to play it again. Unless there's more to find that you might have missed the first time, which isn't part of the story. I keep going back to Rocket League again and again, couse it's fun to play.
A good story does help to make the game much more interresting but if that's the main focus of the entire game, then it falls flat as a game. Then rather make it a movie instead. The ones i'm reffering to are The Last of Us, Uncharted 4 and looks like God of War is going down that road too.
The reason games are getting worse is because consumers let publishers get away with selling them shit. Why should they do better when they can make billions off people with low standards?
The fact that a game is patched after release doesn't matter at all. For f2p games, it makes perfect sense, balance patches are ok in any game as long as it's only stat twiking.
But a AAA game full fucking price better be polished as fuck. Missing game modes are not forgivable, glitches are not forgivable. Fuck the video game industry right now, everyone go to MOBAs and other f2p games with honest features. PALADINS, HEROES OF THE STORM, LOL, DOTA, SMITE, TF2, ROBOCRAFT, PLANETSIDE 2, PATH OF EXILE, SHIT TON OF OTHER FREE AND HONEST GAMES. Why would you ever pay full price for the next Ubishit or Actividump ?
Not everyone likes to play games with shit tones of microtransactions, most games that you mentioned are p2w or at least P2P. You should be rewarded by skill and time invested in a game , not by how much money you have in real life.
Chace Do imo minor glitches is okay. sometimes its unavoidable. but most games has major glitches which stopping me from playing even single player mode. that's bullshit for sure.
I say the biggest thing fucking up our games is pre orders. If a game already makes a lot of money before it comes out then they just half ass it and push it out the door.
This is good.
I hope something like a crash occurs where games become great again. Fuck Day 1 dlc,buggy release and all the other shit!
Miraj FUCK DLC FUCK MICROTRANSACTIONSS!!!!
IanSerranoBengoa Amen.
Especially fucking microtransactions for AAA games
i still will hold to my word, titanfall 2 is doing micro transactions the right way. ALL COSMETICS
At least Titanfall 2 has free DLC's
comes at a (literal) price, since respawn would need money to bring that free dlc to the table, but imo its soon worth it
4k 60fps graphics. dlc microtransactions- has been put infront of good gameplay story splitscreen content
SkankHunt42 "60 fps graphics"
Lucas H I didn't uses commas cause its a bitch to use on my phone
SkankHunt42 "4k 60 fps, graphics"
????
lol this is priceless.
Yeah this was kinda retarded, on my part. I misunderstood so acted like a moron. I apologise.
Games are a part of this world. But Money has become our God. The most games are not created for us anymore, the people, instead to get our money. You know what iam talking about, when the old MW2 days and Halo Reach days are gone and you moved on to PC, to enjoy a better variety of games. At the end you have over 1000hours playtime on freaking CS go, with so much money wasted on Skins, because it was fun and you dont know what else to play. You know what iam talking about when hypetrains end in big refunds. Honestly i lost every Hype.. I have over 100games on my steam library, but i only play 3 of them. Every time i wanna play i must think about what game to play, not because they are all so good, instead because they do all frustrate on their own way. I try not supporting this shitty industry anymore, good times are over.. In the end you play a strategy game from 2002 with a mod from a modding team that creats better games than some shitty game Studios.
How to mitigate the p2w trend and relive the MW2 glory days:
1. Buy Titanfall 2
2. Play Titanfall 2 Campaign
3. Play Titanfall 2 Multiplayer
4. Enjoy Titanfall 2's 100% Free DLC
5. Regain faith in the gaming industry
SeanNotConnery mw2 is shit tho, i regret touching it even tho my lil bro bought it
Hey Sean, stopping by 7 months later to let you know that Respawn just got bought out by EA LOL - WE CAN'T ESCAPE THIS TIMELINE
IBennx77I I feel so bored of games now and I started playing fallout New Vegas for the first time and I was like wow Fallout 4 is shit compared to this the graphics may be better but the experience is shit. I really can’t find new games interesting too because it’s no longer progress when you level up and more or less gambling. Games just loose playability and fun with all these nerfs to things that make the game fun for balance and when everything is balanced the game is no longer fun.
Holy shit so fucking relatable dude
They're learning from EA's success.
Kyle Netherwood what success? The milking of games and ruining of classic game franchises?
Bob Johnson congratz $for not understanding the comments point, just like ea did$.
If you make a ton of mediocre games you will get rich like EA. Why bother makeing good games when assit flips are profitable?
I remember when EA actually cared and came out with great titles lol
EA ruined their talented developer that they owned !!! Damn EA
The answer is simple the focus on graphics is what ruining games instead of focusing on gameplay and story just look at how Scorpio is being marketed all what they are talking about is the graphics and performance not on the experience and games
frozen b agreed and when someone makes a game with worse graphics but better story and gameplay its being bombarded with bad reviews beacuse of 10 year olds here just look at me4 it has decent story and gameplay but people are hating on it beacuse there is no old characters and no facial animations... i mean... that's just dumb!
Edin743 me 4 is poor in many more ways then what you mentioned
frozen b thank you! But the millenials and PC gamers can't see that.
I've played hundreds and thousands of hours of games, but in the last 8 months I've turned on my PS4 a handful of times.. The games market is shit, we had so much variety last generation. I'm close to selling my console and buying a pc to play 5 year old games that were actually good.
Buzz Lightyear Let's be honest you were always a PC gamers and making up a story
Buzz Lightyear I find PS4 exclusives to give me that variety, but outside of that, indies, and Nintendo exclusives, I am mostly disinterested.
Buzz Lightyear PC is where it's at. Trust me.
Buzz Lightyear buy PC,Download TeamFortress 2 and add me on steam
Ok, I'll get hate for this, but my theory is gamers got to interested in Graphics, and complained enough to get Game Devs to work on Graphics, but causing there to be to much time developing graphics rather than other parts of games. It's a major consequence of people wanting so much but not realizing the cons to getting what they want until it's to late.
My favorite reviewer is me... Everyone should really start to operate this way.
The industry is focusing on quantity and not quality, plus micro-transactions and loot boxes.
EA is the worst, they set the trend for micro-transactions as well as business practices, look at how they fucked over Respawn.
They intentionally set Titanfall 2 in between Battlefield 1 and Call of Duty just to soften sales and soften up Respawn for a buyout and then implement all these bonuses per Metacritic scores etc.
Titanfall 2 was the best game and I still play it, also Rainbow Six Siege I still play since I got it in release in 2015.
Activison and EA are the prime evils in the industry that are setting the bastard standard of micro-transactions and Loot-Boxes.
All this started with the rise of Mobile Gaming and its practices which have carried over to mainstream gaming.
Look at how EA forced implemented it on Mass Effect 3 with its forced online and play an app to improve your percentage of readiness in the last part.
Isn't it pretty obvious why games are shit nowadays?
Revolio Clockberg Jr. " Games are shit ". So Witcher 3, Fallout 4, MGS: V, Uncharted 4 are all shit?
dbachos I don't recall mentioning any of those games in my comment. I mean I thought it was clear I talking about a large portion of games that happen to be AAA corporate dog shit. We're lucky if we get a game that can even come close to the Witcher 3 within the year. Fallout 4 was pretty bad. Really fun, but the writing for that game was awful. Wide as an ocean, deep as a pond.
AAA A Huh? Wow so calling a game and the industry on its very obvious flaws makes my opinion "unoriginal" thus unvalidated? I want my games and entertainment to have well written and developed stories, fucking shoot me? How does it feel to be a pretentious douchbag on the internet?
Fallout 4 and Uncharted 4 ARE shit but judging from that comment your opinion and mine differ.
Also Witcher 3 made no sense when it came to having to "re"learn all the alchemy, you played as a master witcher why are you having to learn stuff you should already know.
I agree with you 100% about the "rush to market" and the "We'll finish the game later with patches and DLC" is hurting the industry. It is really killing most new games. I wish Video Game executives would listen to everything you just said. On the brighter side, STAR TREK ONLINE, THE WITCHER 3, and UNCHARTED 4, are proof that at least SOME game developers can still put out some AMAZINGLY GREAT games.
The "bad games coin" has two sides. The ignorant fanboys who pre-order anything, even if they don't even know what the game's gonna be. And the big bad companies like EA Ubisoft and Activision, that take the opportunity to milk the shit out of their customers. If people would stop falling for these cheap moneygrab tricks, games would eventually get finished and better. But then there are still studios like CD Projekt Red that actually care for the gamers, treat them with respect and take their time to make awesome masterpieces of games.
I don't understand why people would buy a game that doesn't exist yet. Imagine you go to a car lot and buy a car on the promise "When we finish this car we'll give it to you with an extra cupholder for your wait"
This didnt age well
CDPR fooled themselves a few weeks ago.
put more hours into ps1, snes, old pc and dos games combined vs. my ps4 collecting dust using it occasionally for blray movie playing only!
I'll tell you why games are flopping more so now then ever.
It's because we are being ripped off and conned by games companies and developers. I'll never pay for an EA game again or another so called BIG BUDGET like BATMAN etc.
Why?
Arkham knight cost me £50 PLUS £30 for DLC
Campaign done in 15 hours. DLC was some crap 2 hour add on and some shit suits. So let's call it 25 hours MAX £85
The Witcher 3
£40 200 hours gameplay on death march.
16 weeks FREE DLC upon release where they gave away side quests , weapons and little treats in the game. Then the DLC was £30 I think for two add ons. First last about 15 hours , the second about 40 hours to complete everything.
So you can clearly see The Witcher gave me hundreds of hours gameplay for £35 less than Batman which looked pretty but was completed over fri/sat night. I have not touched the game since. Why would I ?
Gamers are waking up to this bullcrap and waiting for the developers they know actually supply what they promise. I won't purchase another COD or BF game, in fact I wouldn't even want them for free.
This is 2017 all planned out.....
Horizon Zero Dawn
Shadow of war
The Witcher 3 (as I feel like going back to do the lot again)
Nioh
Automata
God of war
Red dead 2
Maybe a couple of others. I'll not spend full wack on any game unless it's by teams like CD PROJEKT RED etc cos I know what I'm getting for my money.
Good luck gamers and don't be fooled into buying these DAY1 £89 rip offs like MASS EFFECT. I'm telling you right now it will be fucked for the first 6/8 months. But it at Xmas for £20 sale when it have been patched and actually work.
ChelseaFC _Buzz I agree with pretty much everything of what you said, but Mass Effect is not as bad as people say it is. I spent $50 on the game and I definently feel like I got my moneys worth.
You forgot Zelda, Mario Odysee and smaller games like Yooka Laylee or Dauntless.
God of War is pushed to 2018 now. Here's hoping for a collectors edition!
Persona 5
DinkleDigeroo
I was excited for Cyber but it just looks like a shooter now. With online DLC etc.
I was hoping that it would be in the same style as Witcher camera wise. Skills with guns to hit people etc. But it will be great I know.
Also it’s the little things CDPR did. You see the short video they did after Witcher 3? In the house ? Like a big thanks to the fans? Try look it up if you ain’t seen it. It’s really great
I also think that we now expect a lot more from games than we did ten years ago. For instance Witcher 3 came out and now everything in a similar genre will be compared to it and we will expect more from every other game. It raised the bar.
Stanl3h but it uses the most basic RPG Template ever. It's very disappointing in that regard, but the rest is great.
Dr Strangelove how so?
Steam should add a feature by the help of which if a game is not felt completed or found glitched up by community will take it off steam and give a message to all developers to fix their shit up and this would also scare other devs resulting no more incomplete titles. ;-)
Pranav Kumar yeah some games have been rushed like me4 for example
Pranav Kumar yeah some games have been rushed like me4 for example
it got bad reviews in return
Games are getting worse because stupid people continue to pre-order
A lot of people pre-ordered Anthem. They regretted it after all.
I think the problem is that publishers have too much control. It's the same thing that has happened to the blockbuster film industry which has produced very expensive vapid experienced that favour style over substance. Imagine if book publishers, or fine art publishers did the same thing - it would destroy the industry, thankfully these two mediums are comparatively cheap to produce. It's the curse of mixing art with money. The music industry used to be just as bad but over the last 15 years the cost of producing and marketing music has diminished to such an extent that passion projects and independent artists are able to enjoy success along side the major record labels.
We are starting to see a similar thing happen to gaming where using pre-made assets and games engines has made it easier for indy devs to create and distribute their work. However producing a good game, even a simple one will always be an extremely labour intensive endeavour and has resulted in the indy scene awash with substandard titles aimed at making money. In other words it's a lot less feasible to create a game as a passion project than an album, book or artwork.
I think that there is still hope if studios like CD Project Red are able to continue calling the shots when it come to their own games and not have publishers meddle in a Ubisoft / Destiny kinda way. Unfortunately even Rockstar seem to be slowly leaning towards online content and micro transactions in favour of a solid single player experience. I think as consumers we need to celebrate games as art, games made in the right environment and games made with passion.
The mid-late 90s, 2000s and 2010/2011 were all part of the golden age of gaming. 2012+ feels like these developers want to try to make things realistic without actually trying to put effort in the actual gameplay.
I see it as this:
90s > 00s > 80s > 10s
Microtransactions and ultimate editions/season passes in full priced games are something that I hope become a thing of the past. It's bad enough that when I leave the house, everywhere I look someone wants to squeeze money out of anyone they can. Now I can't get away from it in my own home.
Faith IX Cortana XI It's not gonna be a thing of the past, heck, it's just gonna get much worse. 2001 -2009 was really the golden era for AAA games.
+Pretty Good Gaming The problem with the game industry this days is simple. The games are in fact worst! The games come out unfinish with a lot of bugs and glitch's! And also with bullshit pre order bonus, DLCs and microtransactions. Gamers don't trust the in the game companies anymore! Most gamers these days prefer to play or buy old games. I am one of that cases.
I agree. At this point, I would love to replay a classic gem like Tekken 4.
I agree. Now (2013 onward) it's even worse than in the past (1972-2012).
I remember like 5 years ago , everybody was talking bout video games and they were so hooked on it. Gaming franchises were coming up with so many new ideas and concepts. And we all enjoyed laughing at the gimmicks. Now it seems .. boring. Its a shell of itself and the spirt is not there anymore
I was talking to my girlfriend about this exact issue and how back when we had the original playstation or even the ps2 and xbox the games were better designed and developers didn't have to count on patches to clean up what should of been cleaned before they tossed it onto the shelfs. Thank you for creating this for the world to see because I thought I was the only one thinking this!
Not only that but if games were REALLY bad enough or had serious bugs publishers had to actually change the printing press and their would be two versions of a game
Witcher 3 is the game that raised the bar for open world games and no one's CLOSE! too touching it.
NewClouds Horizon Zero Dawn?
DevilGames lol lol lol not even close
DevilGames You mean the feminist game with the ugliest female protagonist ever? Shove it up your ass mate!
Ruud de Zwart she is supposed to be and look tribal and her body looks relatively good and obviously it would logically look the way it is beacuse she is in a tribal like world where fighting,running and lifting heavy objects very common so it is obvious she wouldn't look like some fanservice girl and would look more realistic but some games like witcher 3 obviously female characters would look very feminine beacuse they aren't really doing any action related thing so yeah and it has higher tech so that means there will be cosmetics like makeup and such
Whoah Whoah Whoah what about Mass effect Andromeda
Fuck them games, your channel is getting fucking ridiculously good, it's been good from the start, but dudes, these last few weeks you've easily come on top of all other you tube gaming-oriented channels IMO.
.ENGLISH PROFICIENCY I agree these guys are at it with the videos!.
I'm more likely to get older games than newer ones.
More incentive for us to pirate games. Who knows, maybe developers will take time to make a game worth buying, instead of something with 3 enjoyable gameplay hours and 17 DLCs each costing as much as the game itself.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
People always give Uncharted 4 as an example of a good game. It's an incredibly shallow game in every way.
No wonder most games today are crap when people think Uncharted 4 is the perfect game. Example of a good modern game would be Dishonored 1 and 2. Not The Witcher 3 because it lacks in the gameplay department, it's more about quantity than quality.
I feel like people, the consumers are partially to blame for crap games, or at least for games that are crap in my opinion.
2017 was easily one of the best years in gaming. Where the heck have you been? Oh right; you've been stuck dwelling on the negative. Be my guest.....
gimme some examples
Cuphead, Subnautica, Edith Finch, Mario Odyssey, Breath of the Wild, Hollow Knight, A Hat in Time, Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, Hellblade, Resident Evil 7, Neir Automata, Assassin's Creed Origins, Prey, Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Sonic Mania, South Park, For Honor, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, etc.
Was mainly taking about "AAA" games. Low budget indie games can be surprisingly good, partially because you don't expect much from them, well I don't. I don't agree with the open world games or overly cinematic "interactive movie" games though. Never really liked them, were cool when they first started to appear. Not saying they're bad. I'm just looking for games that I like. Oh and I only have PC and ps4. I will take a closer look at the games you mentioned..
I have Subnautica, but got bored of the endless exploration and crafting like .. I like good gameplay, level design. A good story with interesting characters won't hurt either. Only good thing about Subnautica is the atmosphere.
The annoying thing about modern video games, is that they're always focusing on incredible HD graphics, and TOO polished music. The games becomes flat, characterless, they all look the same, too polished, realistic, etc. I hate so much newer video games, they don't make me feel anything when I'm playing them. I really wish they could go back on those low-poly, or just more simple graphics and musics.
Uncharted 4 was so good! It's not just about climbing and shooting, it's about the story telling.
Justxfied good but overrated and the storytelling wasn't even that good
Creativity and quality in general is on the decline in our present culture. I blame the public school system and giving medals for participation.
I guess I just spotted another smart person, who understands some of the problems the are plaguin our world...
I think the biggest problem of all is that games put Hollywood on the pedestal. They're trending closer and closer to movies - more cutscenes, more scripted events. Modern day Hollywood is pretty shit, so the games ( in my eyes ) are coming ever closer to that turd status.
Its not just that...unchecked capitalism is ruining everything
The gaming industry will be dead in 2018/2019. These gaming companies/developers are cancerous... not to mention newer games and consoles will have a higher cost.
Steven Bonney not in japan tho
Salt Taster Mr. Trump is going to increase prices...including importing anything that comes from japan or any other forgien country. Say goodbye to the gaming industry.
Steven Bonney Look at all the games coming out in 2017 and beyond to save us for ps4.Also I think GOW Spiderman and TLOU 2 are releasing in 2018 so...
Steven Bonney oh i dont know that. well that sad on your part man
Not for Pc
I have to agree that the push to rush games out the door, that clearly are unfinished needs to stop. Several of the franchises covering most of the genres feel compelled to rush games out on an annual basis but honestly is it needed? Delivering unfinished, unpolished, and untested games, which are just a mess, then the various devs should not be surprised at the negative feedback they get. The after-launch dlc stuff should stop as well, take the time to do the game right, and include the dlc in the game at launch. Stop the assembly line push and take the time to produce quality.
why is music geting more shti every year? why is anime getting more shit every year? games, well i think only movies are actually doing ok, besides that everything looks worse and worse every year in my opinion especially music is just garbage, dead, i don't listen to anything new i just can't i get cancer i can die, really fatal
MadLane In Astraga they have Crystal Web, Armoras, Z-0.9 and RRZ-7. Ok, what about the shows and the books, they are more books and they are better and it is the same for shows.
It's okay Mike, I thought Uncharted 4 was shit too.
Ej Jones It was really overrated-not shit
It was, another Uncharted. Not bad, but essentially, more of the same. If that's what you like, more power to you. If not, well you'll probably think it was shit. lol.
How the hell is Uncharted 4 bad in any way??
Nigel Eustace it was a bit simple in terms of gameplay. Half the game was cutscenes. I actually enjoyed it, but I get why others didn't.
TheTjam84 I can agree with that. It was a great experience for me. I guess it depends on what you expect to get out of it. If I want deep gameplay I'll pick up a good RPG.
Rockstar games are well made so I have high hopes for Red Dead Redemption 2. I still play GTA 5 and it's four years old +
Crazy Beard GTA 5 was very mediocre compared to Vice City and San Andreas.
Crazy Beard What about valve... TeamFortress 2 is 10 years old and i still play it...
Rockstar is too busy milking GTA 5 online, to make new innovative games.
Same here GTA is just fun to play!
Story could've been longer GTA IV was like 86 missions and SA had 100. Also rather than making story of 3 men into one we could've had story mode DLC but R* is too busy milking online with these copy and paste updates.
Total Biscuit, ACG, Worth a Buy and Cosmic Engine are my go to guys, between them they pretty much cover every release and often don't agree but all make valid points that help me decide whether to drop the £££'s. I steer clear of the big boys, they're full of shit.
Sam Gissing acg Is shit WAB is awesome and the rest are ok
Sam Gissing Gameranx isn't
Sean Wattsmoore Not familiar with them man, will check them out.
Sam Gissing I watched some videos of Worth a Buy. Ge seems like a cool dude, But his Quake Live review was a HUGE letdown for me. I am not gonna watch his stuff again
Miguel Pereira - Ah yeah, he has some extreme views on certain genres for sure, but after watching pretty much all of his content I know what he doesn't like and more importantly he explains WHY in detail,. I dont take reviews as gosepel, positive or negative but what you need to know is why in particular the reviewer doesn't like it, so you can agree or disagree, buy or not buy and WAB does that really well imo. Plus he's fucking hilarious :)
Nah, to veteran gamers these games may seem bad or repetitive, but to the younger audience like in middle school and high school these games are fresh and pretty new. Gaming feels fresh to me still because last gen I didn't play very many games either.
They're definitely getting worse in terms of what you get for your money. It costs like $100 for a complete game nowadays at launch once you add in season passes. But we're not really getting any better of an experience than we did 10 years ago when we got great full games for $60 at launch.
Simply put. Normies, the masses, the everyday people have infected gaming. It used to be interesting with games appealing to certain groups or tastes, a dedicated base of people coming back time and again. This of course all changed in the mid to late 00s in my view. Gaming reached a big turning point. They began shelling out massive budgets and the developers reached a conclusion. If they made their games more accessible the masses would adopt them and the developers would cash in A LOT more. So the games began to all sort of devolve into this pool of the same shit but different title/story or just being fun and easy. See Skyrim or Resident evil. I played Oblivion before Skyrim and just felt disappointed. The quests were too easy and the gameplay wasn't all that unique from it's predecessor. On top of being completely unoriginal Skyrim devolved into a mod fest which is all it's worth because Thomas the tank engine makes for a much more interesting dragon than the dragons themselves. Resident evil devolved into a action shooter with boring linear gameplay and various quick time events. The problem isn't even that the games are terrible but that they're just mediocre. They choose to be good in every last little thing instead of picking a specific group to appeal too. They dare to be the same rather then striking out for that dedicated fan-base that will come back again and again. It happened to Hollywood and now it happened to games. Seriously and no joke the only games that are worth playing in my book are Disgaea and indie titles like binding of isaac and organ trail. They dare to be creative yet seek to just tickle our craving for a good game that lasts us more than two seconds. They have tons of challenges that would take a long time to complete but feel so satisfying when done. This is why I game. It's for challenge and for something interesting that gets me to think or remember certain things in different orders. I think soon it might be time to trade in the controller for some good books and a new hobby like hunting or fishing. I've definitely slid off the gaming train the past couple of years and just haven't sparked with many newer games. I'm pretty young too. I just can't find that excitement in anything made after 2009 that isn't a JRPG, disgaea or counter strike. Just so many terrible and boring games.
2003 was the holy grail of gaming imo, the market was just about big enough for developers to make big-budget games yet small enough to mostly have passionate devs and gamers.
Most gamers nowadays don't know or even care about games other than CoD/Fornite and cringy ''gaming youtubers'' like Markiplier, but because there's so frigging many of them the business vultures arrived catering to just that. In a weird way I feel like my hobby got stolen from me.
Metacritic-shmetacritic... marketing... Games were made for gamers back in the days. Today everybody's a "gamer" and games are being made for everybody. And 'everybody' is not a customer that you care about and not even a customer that can tell a good game from crap. Companies that were making games for gamers went bankrupt and can't exist in todays situation when they need to make a really good game for gamers at the same time catering to all them children, housewives and sales managers.
Game industry for gamers pretty much died when all them people who call Diablo an RPG and leveling and unlocking stuff - role playing elements came to scene.
they rush they games to much and expect us to buy expansion backs? i remeber back then when games had heart and you were able to unlock the extras, childhood games will live on then games released now
expansion packs
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Rockstar had over 5 years on GTA 5 and it was still rushed and unfinished. After 3 years I can openly said it was utter trash compared to past GTA games.
President Pepe Trump i stopped playing it myself. dosent feel the same without las venturas or dan fierro
Alex Chavira he's not retarded at all. The game is pure trash when compared to any other gta game. 4 was a lot better than 5 in both single and multiplayer. Vice city in my opinion is hands down the best one they've ever made. Gta 3 is better than 5. Even the little vice city and liberty city stories games were better than 5. 5s story was short and has zero replay value unless you want a trophy/achievement. Only reason people would claim to "love" gta 5 is because the online you get to make a person and build them up from rags to riches.
Alex Chavira that's all gta 5 has going for it is the multiplayer. I mean... Obviously the campaign is ass. Otherwise gamers wouldn't be so gung-ho over a single player expansion. Idk how many times i beat vice city and gta 3. But i can tell you how many times i beat 5 using 1 finger. Don't be a kiss ass man, i like rockstar cause they're pretty much the only AAA company that always guarantees a great ass game. But i admit 5 could've been a hellava lot better
Micro transactions messed it all up. Triple A games now have no reason to release a completed game, when they can just release half a game, and charge the rest as dlc. I really don't think gaming quality well recover. Instead the new generation of gamers we'll see this as normal, and even expect micro transactions, dlc, and look forward to it.
Good vid. Main probs defo imclude 1) Relying on DLC 2) A lack of love/care + copy-paste approach 3) A lack of risk taking & a safety first approaches 4) general corporate bullshit killing creativity.
DLC. Developers are releasing incomplete games. Even the games that have been heavily praised are being plagued by DLC. The developers of Final Fantasy 15 said they're not keen on release a part 2 to the story. They'd rather touch up on pre-existing resources by shipping DLC's, because they know their customers will buy them! DLC is a shameless cash grab that plagues the quality of games we used to expect.
This is why I'm heavily faithful to Nintendo. They're not afraid to delve into their creativity. Sure they'll offer us DLC for games we love, but it doesn't stop them from being on a constant quest for giving us amazingly creative and unique games yearly. Thank you Nintendo!
defil3d yeah mario games and zelda every year creativity on point👌
LOL I would love Nintendo if they even had 1 good ADULT game.
I just feel when I was younger I would play a game for hours on end for months and months where as now I have fun with a game for a few weeks and then it just feels repetitive and recycled
The gaming industry has become commercialized. Number one priority is making money and quality be damned. Endless COD clones, money sucking DLC. It really doesn't surprise me that people identify 2001 as peak game with all the crap that's around now.
There's only a handful of games out in the past decade that I'd consider classics. The years from N64/ps1/xbox-GC/ps2/x360 spawned countless and moved gaming forwards a huge amount.
The silver lining is that even if the gaming industry is 90% rubbish there are still gems around and especially if you go back in time. Also, steam sales are cheap as chips.
The gaming world feels kinda ruined lately. The problem with modern gaming is that there is lack of fludity in games, everything may look beautiful, indeed but lacks the creativity, immersion, feeling and originality. For the most part tasks feel like a chore and are often pretty meaningless. Then there is griding, oh my god how much hate greedy grinding and for the most part the whole free2play concept, the microtransactions... the collectibles, the achievements, the DLCs, the season passes, the preorders. The only achievements I like are actually called Challenges in Uplay, at least you get points that you can spend in unlocking exclusive content to be playable in game or getting a discount on your next purchase. Preorders... A game gets shown on E3 and they are already pushing preorders down your throat! ... Let's also talk about steam direct for example, it is way worse than greenlight, we have a shitstorm of shitty games all of the sudden, where before greenlight required games to be greenlit by steam users, now it's all direct, there is no user voting involved, and so we have the said shitstorm... Online competitive multiplayer games are being ruined by trolls and cheaters, hackers and glitchers ... Open world games will make you spend a whole lot of your life doing the same things over and over, and even if they seemed exciting at first, they quickly get boring, tiring and they feel like a chore. VR titles gets also pushed down our throats on steam, although the vast majority dos not play in VR or desires to. Alas steam still makes you lose your precious time by promoting those games to you, even if you told your settings specificly not to do so. Lastly, today we even have people who play games just for getting cards and achievements, which is pathetic, imo. I most likely forgot to mention still a ton of things but yes, sadly such is the world of modern gaming today.
Agree with you all the way. I refuse to purchase any game that has preorder bonus, exclusive content, season passes or micro transactions. Over the last 25 years have purchased approx 40-50 new games per year, but that now is only 2-3 games per year due to the industry grabbing more money all the time and not giving you a finished game but wanting more money out of you for the game you purchased in full. Modern games all seem to play the same way and even though they look great, they are barely fun after a short time. Games are becoming pay to win, and soon main parts of a game will be locked out and won’t even be able to complete them unless you pay for extra content to allow you to finish the game. I plead with all gamers to stop purchasing dlc, season passes, and micro transactions as you are justifying what is happening here, and it will only get worse as has been seen over the last 10 years. This is the new normal and it should not be. One price for one game with all content included so there are no advantages. DLC should be made because the game sold well and the developers want to support the game before a sequel. Extras in a game should be unlocked by playing the game and using skill and effort.
2016 has been the best year in gaming since 2011/2012
meanwhile 2014 has been the worst year for gaming, adn 2016 is like 2nd worst because we saw a lot of crap games, and .... Sean Murray
Team3AM Nope lol
Actually it has been......2013-2015 was pretty bad.
The fucking worst
Actually 2013 saw the rise of gta 5 so it wasnt all bad
My opinion? i switched back to my roots, the pc, play path of exile and cs:go nothing more. i think everything these days is dull/dumb and boring and just "hype". im out. sorry for my english, would/could explain more in native german ;) ofc some few gems, few indies or witcher 3. but im sick of triple a mainstream console market EDIT: playing for honor beta right now... yea.. not buying this...
Blade86 im still playing the first Rome total war/medieval 2 total war lol. I have some hope again for ME andromeda but we will see
*insert angry opinion about Uncharted 4 here*
argh ergh it is no ok but bad like boo
Games are not getting worse, people simply buy the wrong games, demanding always the same stuff (military shooter and open world gangsta bullshit) and they are getting too fast excited by marketing campaigns, instead of waiting one or two weeks after release with the purchase of the game. So you will always have your Call of Duty, Battlefield, Ubisoft generic open world here and Activision and EA dlc politics there.
And then there are games like Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Metal Gear Solid V, Batman Arkham Knight, Nioh, Dark Souls 3, Nier Automata, Zelda Breath of the Wild, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Hitman, Horizon, and so on.
Old video, but I'm going to leave my comment anyway. I see people give CD Projekt Red a pass because the put out good games, but don't forget the bullshit they pulled with the graphical downgrade at the release of the Witcher 3. This industry is so damn tainted, not even the "Good Guys" are exempt from trying to scam consumers out of their money. They're all equally greedy and corporate. There's no saving it, aside from getting into the development side of things yourself and making games as a hobby purely for your own enjoyment.
Gotta say though the start of 2017 has been great so far.
Great Video guys as always! Keep up the good work. I thought hard and hard for more reasons, but you guys summed it pretty good! Yeah!
Thanks Mehak
So your saying that 90s games are better
Walther Penne What? 2004 was probably the best year for gaming ever!
golden age might be over but there are still amazing games like uncharted 4 and last of us
+Walther Penne
You're a fucking idiot. Kinda weird that PC's "died", yet they are still better than console. Also you're an idiot if you think crap that came before 2005 is better than what we have now.
Mr Owns The 6th gen was pretty much THE goldrn age of gaming because the creativity from the late 90's met with the refinement of new technology to create some of the best games ever.
(Seriously like 70% of the best games ever came out on the 6th gen)
But yeah I don't see why he said that PC died. Maybe he was talking about the specific type of games that were used to be PC exclusive and had features that were exclusive to PC, but I dunno
+Rajbir Singh
Last of Us was released few years ago now when games were still okay, nowadays alot of AAA games are the same with the Ranking system, weapon attachments, customization. Indie games are equally guilty as a bulk of Indie games are survival games based on crafting stuff to survive a open world.
This industry is going downhill fast not just because of unfinished games, but also because they are becoming the same thing.
I have just started playing Gran Turismo 3 and the nostalgia was a kind relief considering how my PS4 experience was a dull, over rated tedium that never got better and so I just sold it the other day, to try out the Xbox one. (So far, I feel underwhelmed by that as well) - I thought that gaming was always a passion for everyone involved in the industry but now it’s clear to see its nothing more than a means to bleed people of their hard earned cash and the massive downhill descent, which is clearly visible to those who pay attention, doesn’t seem to be able to stop from plummeting further and further into the depths of despair and ruin. I am glad that I can pick up my PlayStation 2 controller and revisit those beloved and simple times where games were enjoyable but with the way that modern gaming is today I don’t really see the point in the game industry even existing anymore other then to deceive people into forking out bucket loads of their money to fuel future ventures by these huge companies only to be continuously disappointed by the results. It’s an ‘uroboros’ of bullshit that is surely the end of days for all those who enjoyed being able to spend a little bit of money for some entertainment that they could enjoy anytime of the day and without leaving their home but soon enough it will be an expensive luxury which won’t be worth your time unless you have a stupid amount of money to burn and a serious amount of time to waste.
The reason why games are getting horrible is because of DLC, Microtransactions and incomplete, glitchy games.
This is the story:
EA, Activision and Ubisoft flew in the dark gaming skies. EA saw three heroes appear. Ice Dragon, Fire Demon, Thunder Bird. Ice Dragon blasted beams of ice at EA. EA Created a Sword made out of money. Ice Dragon ran away and he created several clones of ice. Ice Dragon's clones came at EA. They all prepare to punch EA. EA got punched twice and EA created Vines of money. Fire Demon Stomped and he created a earthquake of magma, Ubisoft dodged the earthquake but he got hit by EA's Vines of money. Thunderbird blasted beams of electricity. Activision created a sword made out of money. Activision got hit by the electricity beams,
LIKE TO MAKE GOOD GUYS WIN ,DISLIKE TO MAKE BAD GUYS WIN. DON'T LIKE OR DISLIKE WITHOUT TELLING ME THAT YOU LIKED OR DISLIKED.
Melee is pronounced "may-lay"
Games have definitely gotten worse. But this has nothing to do with Day-one-patches or buggy versions. It's because today's generation of gamers is heavily populated by morons not able to hold a controller straight. And these gamers led to the trend to change games from being story-supported challenges to overcome with skill and passion to interactive bedtime stories with playthrough-guarantee. No wonder every other today's game feel just like the last one.
Also to blame for the shitty free to play mobile-like games surge on consoles, and all the competitive games that are designed to make everyone feel like they're winners.
I hate when I want to play Odyssey, and the uplay tells me I have to update. Then I switch to offline mode and the problem is solved. I am not gonna wait for 5 hours again...
I like how they ignored GTA III in the 2001 article.
onee Halo and GTA 3 came out in 2001, what an amazing year for gaming
onee Love that game. Amazing how car handling feels so good compared to some new open world games.
gta 3 is a great game, even today, i have fond memories.
The single most important thing about story is the tone difference between Mythic and Ironic as wrote by Northrop Frye in Anatomy of Criticism (The Theory of Modes). Which one is your game? Does the game shift from one to the other, or is it just thematic with a low mimetic tone?
Biggest problem for me is no spilt screen in games! As a kid I used to love having mates over. getting help and having fun together. Now most games need the Internet and two consoles/plus to do this, multi player now just means play online.
Games are getting worse ? No. The industry in itself is becoming shitty, yes, with all the dlcs and unfinished games, but games aren't getting worse at all. We had good games in the past and we'll have as much good games in the future.
Silver2909 its getting worst with all the dlc, micro transactions and un finished games like watch dogs 2 etc.
Ozy_Killz 432
Umm no...
Prerelease DLC and overpaid DLC that offer barely anything.....
BRING BACK COUNTER-STRIKE 1.6
“Cd project red releasing finished products”... coming here after cyberpunk..
That didn't age too well.