Kyle pulling the "you bastards" line will never get old. Also star making a talk show for dead people literally is something I could imagine happening.
Gotta say, Dying With The Stars is the perfect replacement for Monokuma Theatre, and something I 100% was not expecting. Can’t wait to see the shenanigans that come with that!
Probably because her and Vandetta come from a childrens show where they never seen a dead body before. Even with all the fiends running amuck in clamberg
@@ultrawarlord5656 Some fans of the show have speculated if Charlotte really doesn’t understand the concept of death or if she’s just in denial about it. In the episode “Parents,” she tells Vendetta that her mom and dad are currently working as astronauts on a space station, which her grandmother quickly reaffirms; so either her parents really are still alive, or it’s a lie that her grandmother made up so Charlotte wouldn’t have to deal with the grief of losing them.
@@brandommario2 well maybe Charlotte is so happy go lucky all the time that she dosen't understand the concept of death. Like in that episode where she believed that her parents where astronauts and staying on the moon. Maybe that probably hints that either their still Alive and are living on the moon or her grandmother told her their on the moon so she won't feel traumatized about her parents actually dead. Also Morty, Kyle and Cartman come from adult cartoon shows where they have seen someone die before.
Theory: The light that Gaz saw was probably the portal from Stars scissors. The killer probably used them to get back to there room without being seen by anyone
That’s actually what I’m thinking too or it could be star trying to escape her killer. Either way I agree that the light gaz saw has to be the portal star creates
I doubt it. We just saw in daily life that the portals don't work, and even if they worked inside the school, how would the culprit know about it? So I think Star was protecting herself from the killer with her scissors, which caused some portals to open up, and that's why there were flashing lights in Gaz's room.
2:15:55 i love the Detail that star,jenny and morty are together there,as they are the only characters of the cast who isn't with another character of the same cartoon.
Wich would make everyone INCLUDING zim himself (apart maybe dib himself) IDIOTS (yes even profesor membrane AND gaz when they're both supposed to have BIG BRAINS 🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂)
Some very quotable quotes from throughout the video "If I respond to you, you'll just keep talking and the very last thing I want is for you to keep talking." "Nonsense! Zim has done absolutely nothing wrong and thus shall not be punished!" "That's it! I'm hugging you until you feel better!" "I'm machine washable too!" "Excitement knows no definitions!" "Don't you want to know what happened, even if it might end up disappointing you?" "THE FAULT IS IN YOUR BRAIN, BACON BOY!" "Bloodshed? Good. Violence after bloodshed while everyone's watching? Not gonna fly!"
1. This investigation confuses me. I’m genuinely clueless who the culprit is at this point. 2. I was half convinced I was having a fever dream with that last segment. Great replacement for Monokuma Theater though.
@@zoa1530 I DO know a few things though. Since Bubbles found it first and the body announcement went off, she CAN'T be the culprit as she counted towards the witnesses. And Cupcake saw the body, so that's the 2nd witness. There WAS a third witness, likely Eric, that pulled a Byakuya and tampered with the scene. The killer can't be Eric with the previous intel, since he would have to be a witness. Kyle also isn't the killer, he's too pissed off at Eric and he was waiting for Eric, clearing HIM. If the power draining worked properly, Jenny and Blossom should've been out of commission. And I can't see Vendetta OR Charlotte being the blackened. The fiend can't have been the murderer due to it being a witness, as I said above. Charlotte would absolutely NOT murder, and Vendetta probably won't be careless enough to let her fiend spot her. Dipper is obviously innocent. Dib is the sidekick, and brought the wire that will probably find the culprit, so he is clear. And Gaz was trying to sleep, so she's out of the picture. Mabel, Zim, Morty, Ed, and Eddy are the only potential killers, unless something new is learned. (My money's on it being Morty)
Okay. Based on the clues we currently have, I think we can make a pretty good analysis on our possible suspects, but for now I think it's best to list the people we can rule out from this case as the blackened: - Bubbles: She was a part of the first 3 who discovered the body and it's dictated that the blackened doesn't count. - The Membranes: Dib, as the son of the founder of this school, is actively trying to solve the mystery along with Dipper, and Gaz has a solid Alibi. - Charlotte: I don't think she fully understands the concept of "Death" let alone "Murder". - Ed: The murderer is apparently someone who "doesn't think things through", even if the murder itself was apparently premeditated, I don't think Ed had the wits to pull something like this, even for a first case. - Kyle: If what he's saying is 100% true, he is very unlikely to be the one who did it considering that he didn't leave the 2nd floor during the time window of the murder. Things we know from the case so far: - The theory of Star being a Sayaka has been debunked considering she was lured to the kitchen by someone. - The murderer was someone who was big enough to wear the painted sweater and who knew were the masks were at the time and who had contact with Star via the MonoKaller, but also someone who didn't quite thought things through since they carelessly placed the knife in a drawer instead of where it belonged. - Cupcake counts as a witness for the body discovery announcement and assuming that she was going to be key to solve the mystery was indeed correct. - The shining light that woke Gaz up was Star's dimension scissors teleporting her to the cafeteria. It was established that she can't LEAVE the school with them, but it was never explained if she could teleport INSIDE or AROUND the school itself. Seems like a detail we might see come to light during the trial. - The murder occurred either slightly before the hostage motive expired, or right after. - We don't know who the third person was for the Body Discovery announcement yet. Theory or evidence could point at Cartman, who then decided to maybe tamper with the crime scene, but this has yet to be confirmed since we don't know his side of the story yet. - the Monokaller found in Mabel's talent room could be Jenny's and used to lure Star out either by her or someone who managed to steal it somehow. My only suspects right off the bat could be: - Jenny - Mabel - Vendetta - Morty
@@zoruamaster2495 True, I haven't though about the possibility of Cartman messing with the crime scene. We have yet to hear his side of the story, but I did thought of him being the 3rd witness.
@@FabschOblivion669 I know this is random, but what if Cartman washed the knife off and placed it in the drawer since he couldn't reach the holder on the wall (he probably didn't have the time)? It's also possible that he was the one who created the Monosauce with the Memwave and used it to fake blood at the crime scene...
@@AnInkStick Yes, but she was awake during the whole process. But according to her, they were held there a whole hour after the draining was all done. It’s unlikely that she’s lying, but the chance is always there. Also I’m willing to bet that the MonoKaller that was found is Jenny’s that was maybe stolen somehow.
This series is riddled with references and allusions, I wouldn't be surprised if this was something inspired by the Invader ZIM series. Granted, I'm not sure where to watch it to confirm it or not... but if Professor Membrane is the one behind this iteration of Hope's Peak, it's not too hard to put two-and-two together.
I would just like to truly say from the bottom of my heart thank you for giving star this unexpected yet really fun dead host role! It’s really cute and creative to have a talk show for the victims to get there spotlight and an amazing way for star to shine a character who I love and was truly worried about being forgotten💕 If anything this now makes me even more excited for the trial and further victims to come truly you and every special person who made this dream into reality are incredible smart and talented.✨
I was thinking the same thing. Star is my favorite cast member based solely on her presence in CiDR (I actually haven't watched her show). It stung seeing her go first, but this makes it feel better. I do wonder what it'll be like between her and whoever killed her.
Yeah. Tell me about it. Also, I thought it was really funny when she roasted Monokuma and said that her segment was replacing Monokuma theater. Mainly for her reason being, "people want to hear what the cast has to say, not some rando ramblings from a Mr. Huggles robot." Hahahahahaha. Oooooooooooohhhhhhhh. Damn Star, you are savage. You roasted Monokuma so bad, not even an ice pack is enough to heal a burn that bad. Talk about Shining Star dropping some serious HEAT on that obnoxious bear. Hehe. Monokuma's reaction to being dragged away was funny too when Star was all, "Take him away, boys," in such a clam and casual tone. That all aside, with how chipper and adorable Star is, I definitely think she's going to make a good Hostess for this new segment. I may have only seen the first episode or two of her actual show, but I can already say that Star Butterfly is a really cute, funny, and lovable character. Am I right, folks?"
SAMMEEE!!! I was literally so happy she was gonna be the talk host of her own dead show! (No pun intended) I was still bitter she died first, she was the one I was rooting for the most (and look where that got me) and how I thought she will be forgotten forever never to be appear unless it’s small flashbacks. Happy to hear she’ll be annoying us in her talk show so very very thankful
The level of care and detail on this series is perfect, you do such a good job on this cheesy! This is 100% my favorite Fanganronpa ever, can't wait for what the trial will be like!
I have never been more scared of a trial in my life. I'm almost certain it's Jenny as the killer now. This makes me sad as she's an underrated character, but at least her motive seems noble.
@@vadandrumist1670 A few reasons. Jenny is one of the few characters that could hack a monocaller being a robot herself, two she'd know how to lure Star, three she is next to Star's room so she'd have seen Star's actions outside of Gaz's room. So she lures Star to most likely talk, but Star feels threatened and they fight and Star soon gets killed after.
Besides, anyone could had taken her Monocaller, since a robot doesn't have fingerprints, and posed as Jenny. as the killer was someone who was aware that Jenny trusted star, and used that trust to lure star
@@incorporated6387 You assuming Jenny doesn't have finger prints. So then she'd still need to have something to keep the device from being used by anyone else. As for the timing, that's a plot whole I admit, but I think Monokuma would have finished before Star's estimated death time. But I can't prove it.
Theory: The killer wore the sweater while killing Star, to catch the blood from getting on their clothes. After she was dead, they took the blood stained sweater to the lab and used black spray paint to cover over the blood stains.
alternatively, the killer spray painted it beforehand and afterwards turned the ski mask and sweater inside out to hide the blood. that explains the stain in the cabinet and on star's back, as well as the bloodstain in the ski mask
I have a theory the murder weapon was the misplaced kitchen knife found in the drawers. Meanwhile the scissors were either a red herring or not intended to be there.
It might sound pretty out there, but I'm calling the string as the murder weapon. Mainly because the Monokuma File says the throat laceration is the presumed cause of death instead of outright confirming it, which is usually a telltale sign that it, in fact, isn't the cause. That would also explain the lack of blood on Star's hands and why there isn't a massive amount on her clothes. In turn, I believe this would explain how the black smudge got onto Star's back, they strangled her with the string from behind. For the laceration itself, I believe that was Cartman's doing. It seems like Cupcake was a witness to the murder, then when Cartman came in, that made him the 2nd witness and possibly bonded and calmed her down, which is why she's friendly with him during the investigation. I think the knife was laying somewhere, he took it and cut Star's throat, washed it and then put it in the drawer because he couldn't actually reach the rack. As for who actually did it, I'm leaning towards Morty. I've never actually seen Ricky and Morty, but he seems like the type to crack very easily under pressure if he lets it get to him, and the fact that his hostage wasn't you know... Rick, I feel like that portal gun was very important and he needs to have it back. (If I'm wrong about this, please feel free to correct me, as I said, never seen Rick and Morty.) I've seen people saying it might be Mable due to Dipper being left alone when he was knocked out, but my main thing with is why would she leave him alive then, only to possibly let him get executed if she gets away with the crime? I'm not saying it can't be her, but that question is the main reason why I think it isn't, I'm welcome to be proven wrong though, civilly of course. Most likely gonna keep coming back to this to see other theories while waiting for the Trial, can't wait! Great job and keep it up, one of the best Fangans I've seen :]
I think the string was what was used too, or at the very least it's involved heavily with the case. It's tainted with black smudges, which were also found on the crime scene.
Also, I have not yet seen Rick and Morty (and I don’t think I will in the near future) but does the portal gun in the show make a bright beam of light?
@@pink_sky_morning4842 I see I see...you say the portal gun is what made the bright light that gaz saw...but how would Morty or anyone get the portal gun if it was a hostage? Not saying it's a bad theory I really like it however it's a bit confusing and complicated.
Ooh, that makes sense. I hadn't noticed that, and I could easily see Cartman tampering with the crime scene. Maybe what happened was that after she died she was stuffed into the cupboard before being pulled out. There is however two things I don't get. One, how did Cartman avoid getting blood all over himself while nonetheless leaving a trail? I remember it being mentioned by Dipper that there both seemed to be a disproportionate amount of blood, and the blood trail didn't seem to be leading into the kitchen. Two, how did Cartman get the knife in the first place? As for Morty I've had my eye on him from the start as he's tall enough to do the deed, no stranger to killing, and in accordance with multiversal theory would know that if he doesn't kill first someone else will, and there's good odds at least one version of him will make it out (though I would prefer the rug being pulled out from under him with Monokuma telling him that multiversal rules have been suspended). Now that we know more of the crime he'd be the one most familiar with portals, and therefore be the most likely to figure that the scissors still work within the scope of the school, and I bet he's tech savvy enough to hack the monokaller. Wait a minute... the trail of blood can be rationalized as Star having injured Morty who then patched himself up discretely. The hoody was likewise resewn and dyed black after the fact to cover for any cuts. How the knife got into Cartman's hands is still a bit vague, but I could see at least that it could be that Star originally used the knife to harm Morty instead of her scissors.
Once again, you and your team knocked it out of the park. I’ve been following your messages and teasers, talking about how hard this was to put together and get out, but you guys did it! And it was more than worth the wait! The way you balanced the funny and dark tones were brilliant, everyone was in character, artwork was beautiful, this mystery is making my head spin, and your original touches were the piece de resistance or however you spell it! I can’t wait until I turn 55 to see the class trial!
~~~TIMELINE OF EVENTS~~~ 8pm - Second motive is announced, everyone arrives at the gym 8:10pm or so - Dipper gets knocked out, and Morty, Ed, Mabel bring him to the nurse's office; Jenny, Blossom, Bubbles go with monokuma to the basement to get their powers nerfed 9:10pm or so - Power draining process begins in the basement, Blossom & Bubbles are knocked unconcious, Jenny remains awake 11pm or so - The period in which Gaz likely saw the flashing lights begins (explained later) 11:50pm - Cartman and Kyle leave their rooms and have an argument in the hallway, with Cartman saying he was going to the kitchen for a midnight snack; Star recieves a message on her monokaller telling her to come to the cafeteria ASAP because "we finished early and want to discuss a new plan", she responds saying she will be "right down" implying she was in her room upstairs (Cartman cannot lie, he genuinely was planning on going to the kitchen here) (Star must have used her scissors to leave her room, since otherwise she would have run into Kyle and Cartman in the hallway, meaning they DO infact work within the confines of the school) (This implies that either the power removal process actually ended here rather than later, or that whoever messaged Star was purpousefully immitating either Bubbles, Blossom, or Jenny with their stolen monokaller) 11:55pm or so - Cartman goes to the kitchen to get his snack; Kyle waits in the hallway until he gets back 12am - Deadline for the first motive passes 12:10am - Cartman returns to the hallway, and him and Kyle (presumably) go back to their rooms 12:20am - Dipper wakes up in the nurse's office and hears footsteps outside, catching a glimpse of someone at the end of the hall outside the dressing room running down the hallway toward the gym/stairways; the period in which Gaz likely saw the flashing lights ends here; it is unlikely anyone was able to tamper with the crime scene past this time (explained below) (This implies the killer was stopping to drop off their mask in the dressing room before heading either upstairs or downstairs, and did not have Star's scissors on them at this time. Confirming that they did not return to the kitchen after this point to put the scissors back or tamper or else cupcake would have recognized their uncovered face) Before 6:30am - Ed wakes up and goes to Eddy's room so he can read him a "wake up story" 6:30am or so - Bubbles, Blossom, Jenny (supposedly) finish having their powers removed and are let out of the basement; Bubbles goes straight to the kitchen, where she triggers the BDA (It is unknown where Jenny & Blossom went in this small time window) Shortly after 6:30 am - Bubbles goes to grab Blossom and anyone else she could find to bring them to the kitchen; Dipper wakes up again and darts to the kitchen, beating Bubbles and the others there Presumably around 7-7:30am - Dipper, Mabel, Dib wake up Gaz, who says she has not yet gotten her "8 straight hours" of sleep due to being woken up by 2 flashing lights the previous night (the first facing the door to her room towards the hallway, the second facing the right of her bed, towards Blossom's room) (This likely implies that Gaz saw the flashing lights sometime after 11-11:30pm) (If we assume the flashing lights were from portals made by Star's scissors, we can conclude that Gaz saw these flashes in the time frame of 11pm to 12:20am, since this is the last possible time Star, her killer, or Cartman could have used her scissors, since they were found on her body the next morning and Dipper saw who we can only deduce is the killer [Cartman was back upstairs by 12:10], moving about the hallways rather than teleporting at 12:20, which is also the deadline for tampering with the body as discussed prior)
Well the scissors likly allow you to go through walls now, star would have ran from her room, to the next few rooms to leave down the steps explaining why the south park kids didn't see her... Honestly, if jenny is being framed, it's....looking like mable...
My guess the reason Dib could open the MonoKaller is because it doesn’t require a fingerprint, likely because the owner doesn’t have any. Jenny, maybe the two South Park kids because of their gloves?
I’d like to add that Star hadn’t been seen since Dipper passed out. Considering time of death was excluded from the Monokuma File, I’d leave open the possibility that Star died almost immediately after the gym incident. This could also explain why Monokuma seemed to be absent for an hour after the superheroes were taken to the basement. The culprit was likely confirming the details of their plan with him. I think what happened was Star was killed, that was when the culprit realized she didn’t have her Monokaller. They hid her body I believe in the cabinet. The mask and spray painted sweater were used to catch blood. I suspect the real murder weapon was a needle from Mabel’s lab, stabbed into her artery. The needle was sewn into the inside of the mask, so when then mask was put on her, it would be put in her neck. The mask would block the blood from getting on her hands. The rest of the wound would be caused after her death with the knife in the kitchen. When it became time to reveal the body in the kitchen, the culprit used the scissors to enter Stars room, and afterwards they went though Gaz’s room to create the illusion of Star moving. When they were setting up the body however they were forced to hide, because Cartman came down to get a snack. They quickly cleaned the knife, and threw it into the drawer, and hid using the sweater and I presume a wig from the storage room. Once Cartman left they used the leftover bottle of Monosauce to simulate the blood trail. And they started to return the equipment they used. They returned the ski mask and wig to the storage room. I suspect the Heather wig was used because I think Cupcake took a bite out of it, so the culprit was forced to shorten its length using the scissors in the storage room. Afterwards, they simply kept Stars Monokaller unlocked to return it to her room. Inevitability to create the illusion it couldn’t have been planted.
@@connorschultz380 honestly having a hard time thinking it’s Mabel… just because of motive. I think she could reasonably do it. It’s just the factor of why… and I hope it’s not a stupid reason like Marco is cute. Tbh I’d expect that reason from a rushed writer expected to meet a deadline instead of a passionate fan project. Also in line with a passionate fan project, I expect Mabel to value at least Star’s life over Waddles due to being her friend. Part of me thinks it could be a sacrifice and Cartman tampered the scene tho. Like a 1-2 case but a better motive lol.
Notes: The stain on Star's bottom and in the cabinet. If you remember, there was a black sweater, which was most likely colored black using the spray can. I believe Star may have wore the sweater, because the paint might have rubbed onto the cabinet and outfit. As the paint was black. This is where the question begins, why did Star (May have, or not) wore the sweater?
You know what I like about this crossover is how hard it is to accuse someone mainly because you don't want to see them die etc. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE TRIALS I BET IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT YEAR I CAN'T WAIT
I’m 99% sure it’s mable now ignoring the fact it would be a major character motivation for dipper which would be the main reasoning to a character standpoint I see her character interacting with stars room with evidence and then compare her to everywhere else and I just sense and feel the panic and distress she puts off like really not many people seem to see it but she didn’t seem nearly as distressed upon seeing the body than when they entered stars room that’s a bit sus right? Unless she say saw and even “created” the body before hand? If you get what I’m saying so yah I do truly believe it’s mable
Look at 1:52:03 Look how nervous she is to enter the room. Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s her. She was acting really strange while searching fkr clues and pointing quickly to them and making theories about them and probably planted false evidence to throw them off. She has a headband that makes me think that she can hide the bite wound from plain sight. If Jenny did this , she would easily have a dent in her head and probably noticed by someone
@@jnstudios763 that and also Waddles the pig is one of the hostages that could possibly die in the motive. and we all know how much she loves that tiny oinking fucker, so that's enough of a reason there.
Also, did the announcement go off when Cupcake, Bubbles and Cartman saw the body? Wait, I think it’s possible that Cartman witnessed Mabel kill Star. She has a motive too, considering Wabbles or whatever the piggy’s name was very precious to her.
Honestly, it might still be possible that star had planned to murder, since anyone can access Jenny's monokaller, and the scissors were still with star's body, so there's a chance the killer might've killed in self defense
1:01:38 Ok, now I'm wondering if that hair is from the sweater and Cupcake attacked the culprit, wearing a sweater and mask to try to hide their identity. The sweater could have been dyed black beforehand or maybe Cupcake stained it and they had to dye it all black as a result to try to make it look leas suspicious. And Star's stained back and the stain inside the cabinets could be a result of Cupcake's saliva or the black dye (maybe the killer was hiding inside the cabinets and if the killer grabbed Star to move her body, it could have stain her too) Also, "Dying with the stars" is SUCH a great idea lol. And I knew she didn't remember Marco!
I’m thinking Mabel did this. Anyone notice how jumpy she was to make theories and insisting to stay in the kitchen to search for more clues instead of leaving somewhere else. She was very suspicious of dib joining the team to help them investigate. She looked really scared to enter her lab and star’s room to investigate. She also made some silly suggestions to probably throw them off. She knows the secret code as well and knows all things sweater like and probably used yawn to tie star up while unconscious. This explains why she couldn’t cover her throat to stop the bleeding. Jenny does sound suspicious but if cupcake attacked the culprit wouldn’t she have a small dent in her head. Besides a bit of blood in the mask. Mabel wears a headband making me think that she can easily hid the bite wound from plain sight. She probably also knew about Jenny’s Trust to get star to meet at the kitchen to her advantage. But the burning I’m really having is why she chose star to be her target Was star going to do something to dipper that made her take action? Did Mabel think star was the mastermind? It’s really tricky to figure that out,
I thought Jenny did it but this sounds more like it. The message was sent from Jenny's monokaller which probably doesn't need fingerprints to unlock since she doesn't have them. I think the long sweater was probably used to gag cupcake and that's why it was dyed black that's why it seems to dislike all girls. I think she'd target Star because she didn't have a companion from her series and didn't remember Marco so Mabel tought she didn't have a motive. Would also explain why she didn't go for Dipper / the easy kill.
What i like about this theory is that for any other killer it would had make sense to target Dipper, as he was uncontius and defenseless, but Mabel -assuming is the main suspect - would kill anyone but him. I think got it bro.
Honestly I’ve been having a hard time thinking of Mabel as the killer but you do bring up a good point that Star could be trying to kill dipper first. But now the question is… why would star want to kill? She says Marco is just a “boy that looks familiar”. So she was memory wiped at some point. Does Star have a strong sense of justice that she cares about the hostages even though she doesn’t personally know them? I don’t really see that with season 1-2 star. She’s still growing up. Did she suddenly remember Marco? Maybe. But does that motivate her to kill?
Okay, time to try and analyze the evidence. 1) Clean Hands/Slashed Throat- My first thought was that for an unknown reason the killer had cleaned hands, but the tied up angle seems more likely thanks to the string that Dib found at the end. However, given the supposedly tight time frame we seem to have, when did she get tied up and how did she get tied up? There are no injuries or "Harmful" chemicals on her. Mind you, there could be some leeway in the Monokuma File, as a chemical that puts her to sleep might not be considered harmful. More on that later. 2) Dimensional Scissors- I suspect this was not the murder weapon, but instead the method of transport for Star. We know she had been trying to get them to work, and it's entirely possible that she discovered that it could work if she tried to use them to get to an area within the school that isn't restricted until later in the game. It could explain why Star left her Monokaller in her bedroom, and it might be an explanation for the flashing light in Gaz's room. 3) Empty Cabinet/Black Smudges- The only thing I've seen that can produce a black smudge is Cupcake. Perhaps Cupcake was in the cupboard for some reason, and the dimensional scissors took Star into the cupboard and on top of her and it caused a mess? Or maybe Star landed on top of her in the kitchen in general, either through the dimensional scissors or perhaps in some sort of struggle with the killer, and then she crawled into the cupboard to hide from somebody chasing after her before being pulled out and killed. That means the smudge in the cupboard came from the dress and not the other way around, if true. Alternate hypothesis: the black smudge is a mechanical lubricant such as oil, which could potentially implicate Jenny, but there wasn't any indication that Jenny leaks or even contains such lubricants or had any kind of damage that could have caused her to leak said lubricants. Given that she can't feel pain, it's possible she could have such an injury and not even know it unless she noticed the smudges in the dark. I'm unfamiliar with the source material, so I don't know if she has dark vision capabilities, or if she has some sort of warning system instead of pain to pinpoint damage. She was part of the depowering ritual, which Bubbles said was all night long, but she wasn't asleep like the PPG, so it's possible the event was over much sooner and she was able to leave while the other two slept. 4) Bloody Mess- I'm not entirely sure what to make of this. Was she tied up and dragged to this spot after being slashed? If so, and she hid in the cupboard of her own accord, that would mean she likely didn't die immediately after exiting the cupboard. I don't think she was dead when she was in the cupboard, because I've seen no evidence to suggest something staunched the flow of blood while she was in there, and there's no blood inside. Mind you, if she teleported into the cupboard and then moved outside to meet the mystery person, that would fit. 5) Kitchen Knife- Seems likely to be the murder weapon, though why it was left in the drawer instead of put back on the rack is a mystery to me. Was there a reason they couldn't do that? Too short? But a short person could climb on the counter. 6) Cupcake- The first body witness (assuming the killer doesn't count unless they showed up after the murder was complete). Has an unusual reaction to Charlotte and Mabel, hissing at them, even though previously she was sweet to at least one of the two. Of note, Cartman is not treated that way, she absolutely adores him. Given that she can't tell who a person is unless she sees their face or maybe just generally good details, I predict that a female student did something to anger her. If Star landed on top of her at some point, that could easily do it, I think. Alternately, it could imply that the killer is female, but she couldn't get a good enough look at them and ends up hostile to all females because she sees them all as potentially the killer. 7) Small Hairball- It's not necessarily hair, despite it's name. I could be part of clothing, perhaps the disguise used, especially if we assume the killer used the ski mask which would block out any access to hair on their head. The most likely candidates then would be the sweater or the ski mask, which will be discussed in their entries. Personally, I think the latter more likely. 8) The Gym Scene- I don't know. Maybe if I rewatched the episode with that scene in it, I'd be able to come up with something, but I don't wanna do that right now for time reasons (already spending so much just on this) 9) Hostages- It's hard to say for sure. It gives a lot of people motives. Random thing I noticed: Rick's Portal Gun could cause flashing lights in Gaz's room, too, though I don't know how it could have been retrieved from its position as a hostage, so it's likely just a weird coincidence. Given my interpretation of other evidence, I think the murder was before midnight, so it's likely that either the killer had a motive here, or they were trying to frame somebody who did. I'm leaning towards the former, but far from sure. 10) Kyle's Account- This is insanely important. He argued with Cartman at 11:50, the same time that Star received the text to go to the cafeteria, and Kyle remained there until Cartman came back at 12:10. This supports the idea that Star used the dimensional scissors to teleport to her destination. If Star used the stairs to go down, Kyle would have seen her, unless she delayed leaving until after 12:10, a full 20 minutes after the text where she said she'd be right down, which I think unlikely (though not impossible since she was told to not be seen). Cartman supposedly went down to the kitchen to fix himself a snack. I predict that Cartman is our missing body witness #2, and not the killer, since we have nobody else claiming to have seen the body before Bubbles found her and I'm assuming I didn't misunderstand and that Bubbles was alone when she found Star's corpse. He walked into the kitchen likely around midnight, give or take a couple of minutes and found her body. It's possible he pulled a Byakuya and messed with the crime scene (dragging the body to the counter, washing the knife, maybe even her hands). His reaction of finding the body later is to laugh and say "it's really her", which implies he already knew about the body and so it's possible he couldn't tell who it was in the darkness the previous night. If true, the murder had to be done really quickly for the killer to not be seen by Cartman, unless he couldn't see the killer in the darkness or chose to cover for them. Given that Cartman had returned to Kyle by 12:10, that means he can't be the mystery figure that Dipper saw at 12:20, so if we assume that was the killer, Cartman can't be the killer. There is the possibility that Cartman saw nothing and the murder happened after 12:10, which admittedly could work with the shadowy figure that Dipper saw, but that leaves us with the missing second body witness again. Maybe the killer had to hide because of Cartman's arrival and couldn't escape until after he left. 11) Gaz's Account- I've already discussed this a couple times prior. I'd guess its Star's dimensional scissors, but there's a long shot chance on it being Rick's portal gun. The timing is obviously important, which is of course why we don't know the timing. Was it early when Star was experimenting with the scissors to try and get them to work, perhaps even the first time she got them to work properly? Was it around the same time as the killing and it may have been Star trying to escape her killer, which would mean that if Gaz hadn't been such a little shit, she could have seen who did it (or maybe gotten killed too for being a witness I guess)? Was it afterwards as an attempt for the killer to escape, which would require somebody other than Star to be able to use it? If the killer did use it, that could help explain how they got away without Cartman seeing them. 12) Ski Mask- Likely worn by the killer, though a small chance it was on Star I suppose, but I think unlikely. The blood in it is obviously the big clue. My best guess is that Cupcake attacked the killer by biting their head, drawing some blood and swallowing some of the fabric that would later become the hairball. If true, that means the killer needs to be able to bleed, which would clear Jenny, or so I would assume. It might also clear Vendetta and Charlotte, as I don't know if those two can bleed, or even what they heck they are. Unless Star was wearing it, I don't see it as being likely to have come from her because it's on the inside of it, but I would have expected a bunch of blood on the lower portion that comes down to her neck. A long shot is that Cartman wore it if he tampered with the scene after the fact, but I dunno.
13) Black Sweater- Likely used by the killer as part of the disguise, and is a second possible source for the hairball. It's interesting that it (along with the mystery Monokaller) were in Mabel's laboratory. Is she the guilty party? Female for Cupcake to be angry, important evidence hidden in her lab...it feels too easy as a frame job, but definitely possible. I can't remember if there was any restrictions on who could or could not enter her lab. Mind you, if the dimensional scissors were used by the killer to get around after the murder, it's possible to get into even the locked rooms. 14) Monosauce- Weird inclusion. Simplest and most mundane explanation is that Cartman got it for his midnight snack and left it out like the slob he is. However, given that Dib says it's one of those experimental items with a potentially weird effect, it could have been capable of rendering Star unconscious, which would allow for her to get tied up without resistance with the string. Alternately, if she's unconscious, she could just have been killed and not woken up before it was too late, which would leave the string as a mystery. 15) Power Draining- Gives Bubbles and Blossom mostly solid alibis, and Jenny a moderate alibi. B&B were asleep all through the night because of Monokuma, but Jenny was awake the whole time and made no mention of how long she was stuck there. I think it was implied that they were all released at the same time though (Bubbles referring to them going to their rooms, though not saying explicitly who they were). Given the blood in the ski mask, I suspect that Jenny is going to be a mid trial red herring, but I'm far from certain. Of note, the fact that the three most powerful characters were supposedly indisposed all night may have given an opportunist the confidence they'd be able to get a murder done without their interference. 16) Star's Monokaller- already discussed, it's one of a few reasons I think Star got the scissors working. 17) Mystery Monokaller- First thought was that Dib has executive access as the headmaster's son, but if anybody can open it...well, this may be the most damning evidence for me against Jenny. I doubt Jenny has fingerprints as a robot, so her Monokaller would need to be accessible without fingerprints. On the other hand, it could be the equivalent of a burner phone that anybody could use, which could be why the features are so limited maybe? This evidence single handedly prevents me from ruling Jenny out as the killer. There may be some other characters that don't have fingerprints, though. Would Zim as an alien have them? Would Charlotte or Vendetta as whatever the hell they are? Would characters with nubs for hands like the PPG have fingerprint? Cartoon characters can have weird properties. Other than that, the whole "we came up with a plan" is interesting. Who is "we"? That implies more than one? Is it purely fabrication to get her there? Is the owner of this somebody who is more likely to have developed plans and is somebody Star would trust enough to go see at night? Is this Monokaller even from the killer? It could be a tragic coincidence, or stolen property. 18) Storage Room- the source of the ski mask. There's tools, there's glue that was brought to our attention as open but barely used which may have relevance, there's the wigs that could be part of the disguise and a third potential source for the hairball. I don't know how this is likely to come into play. 19) Long Piece of String- Could have been used to tie up Star, preventing her from clutching her throat. Other than that, I don't know what it could be for. So...let's try to split the suspects up. Least likely to be killer: Dipper- Stuck in the infirmary with injuries, protagonist unlikely to be the killer Bubbles and Blossom- Put to sleep by Monokuma all night long to depower them. Kyle- He was at the top of the stairs pretty much the entire time frame for Star's murder, unless it happened after 12:10, which I kind of doubt. Star- While it may be possible she had nefarious plans of her own that backfired, I can't see her killing herself outside of a tragic accident, and slashing your throat like that doesn't seem like a suicide to me. Unlikely: Cartman- Obvious red herring and likely the first person accused in the trial, I would be shocked if he was the killer, but he does have opportunity during the time frame. Apparently can't lie for some reason lately, and most likely the 2nd body witness. May have tampered after the murder or even seen the killer and doesn't want to be interrogated so he doesn't have to reveal this info before he wants to, perhaps to keep things more interesting? Or maybe he just thinks that if he admits to being at the kitchen last night, he thinks nobody will believe he didn't kill her. Also, given that Cupcake actually likes him, I suspect he didn't kill anybody. Dib- Given my prediction of a female killer thanks to Cupcake, he automatically falls a bit in likelihood. He seems too genuine during the investigation for me, though it's not impossible. If the string is important in any way, and it probably is because it's a truth button, I say there's little chance he is guilty because he could have just said he found nothing. Ed - Male, and it just doesn't feel right. He's not smart enough to lure anybody to kill them, and probably not smart enough to disguise himself, either. Not that a disguise would help much, he's very distinctive. Has the Edd hostage motive, I guess. Only way he killed is if Eddy was the mastermind behind the murder. Charlotte- Is really dumb, so probably couldn't trick Star and probably wouldn't think to disguise herself. Can she bleed? Female brings her up a little, but not much. So dumb that she's unaware that Star is dead, or just playing dumb? Or so dumb she could have killed her and not realized it? That's really the only way I can see her killing Star, and that seems so unlikely to me. Maybe?: Morty- Sort of a motive from hostages with the portal gun, but sort of not because it's not a person and only sort of implies they might have gotten to Rick, and so could work for both those who care about the hostages or those who don't. The idea that the portal gun could have done the flashes in Gaz's room won't stop bothering me. He is male, which goes against my Cupcake hypothesis, but part of that hypothesis did allow for the possibility of Star causing her aversion to female characters, so who knows? I almost put him as unlikely. Eddy- One of the more unscrupulous characters, has a motive in Edd, potentially smart enough to con somebody into going to their own murder scene. Still, it goes against the female prediction I had, but same counter as with Morty. Gaz- Being female puts her up a little, and she could be leaving something out of flashing light evidence...but if she were the killer and the flashing lights were important, why would she mention it at all? She's certainly one of the colder characters. Certainly smart enough to trick Star into entering the kitchen, and maybe smart enough to modify the mystery Monokaller? I think it's a stretch, but I can't say it's impossible. More Likely?: Jenny- I hate putting her here. She likely doesn't have finger prints, so the mystery Monokaller could be hers. As a robot she might not need the standard type of display like the others, maybe she can link to it somehow. She wasn't asleep like Bubbles and Blossom were, so her alibi may or may not be valid. Definitely has somebody she cares about in the hostages. Star definitely trusts her enough to meet her alone in the kitchen right before the murder deadline, and as part of the hero squad, it's believable for her to say "we" came up with another plan. Being female fits the Cupcake theory. Strong enough to overpower Star and get her tied up without outright disabling her ahead of time. Could have had Monokuma tamper with her in some way during the depowering that made her kill somebody. The only thing that I have to go against this is the blood in the ski mask, but that could have come from Star somehow, or even been worn by somebody other than the killer. It feels way too obvious a case against her. Either she did it, or she's going to be one they try to frame after Cartman gets cleared. On a pure character read, she was super sad about the entire thing, but that could have been guilt over being forced to kill her to save the hostages. Vendetta- Vendetta is female, which fits the Cupcake theory. She's definitely one of the more evil characters. There's a hostage to give her a motive, too. Can she bleed? I don't know. Mabel- Female, definitely bleeds so could leave blood in the ski mask, has a hostage motive, the sweater and mystery monokaller were in her laboratory. Best things I can say in her defense? She helped with the investigation and it feels like the evidence was planted in her room to frame her. I hate putting her here, too. So....I don't like the conclusions I'm coming to here. My number one choice is Mabel as the killer, followed closely by Jenny, with Vendetta as a not exactly close third.
I predict my predictions are about as accurate as my old predictions on who would survive to the end. I predicted Star would be a survivor, so that should tell you that should tell you all you need to know about how much to trust my abilities here.
Concerning Evidence 3: The Black Smudges I really think it’s Jenny because if I remember correctly, when Dipper did a FTA with her he gave Jenny some oil. So it is a possibility, though Cupcake making those stains is a possibility too, and the black spray paint.
If u think about it further, the mask and black sweater couldn’t be Jenny’s doing because if she sent the message then there would be no reason for her to even try to disguise herself since star would know she’s coming
I’d argue Jenny’s alibi is less solid than you think. She was awake the whole time by her own admission, while Bubbles and Blossom were asleep. If she were going to commit a murder, she could have simply told Monokuma, left to do the killing, and returned before Bubbles and Blossom woke up. I don’t think that happened exactly, but it’s entirely possible.
@@aidancurry218 if she was the killer would she really admit that she was awake during the time? Wouldn’t it be safer for her to say she was on sleep mode?
This was absolutely amazing. A top tier fangan to enjoy especially with it being easy to get into with all the character crossovers. So excited to see how the trial turns out!
I love that the investigation music has the theme song for stars show, as well as dippers. Its a nice touch, I hope the other victims show themes get layered into the ivestigation song
But i notice something worriesome about the investigation theme, in the corner of the screen we can see that the song is called "Investigation theme (dipper version)"
1:25:00 “You’d have to be an idiot to think just a wig is a good enough disguise!” Yeah I agree, you gotta get those contact lenses too. (Actually considering Zim’s disguise is legitimately fooling everyone except Dib and Gaz, that might be an actual viable strategy) Although speaking of the wigs, who’s that one between Turner and Mandy, below Johnny Bravo? I recognize those three, Pepper and Marge of course, I just can’t place that fifth one. Also, unrelated but Star and Marco mentioned how they were “late entries”. Is this a reference to the fact that Star Vs is the most recent franchise in CiDr?
I just wanna say that this fangan is REALLY well made and I'm so flipping excited for the trial. Definitely my favorite fangan I've seen keep up the awesome work :DDD
This was really great, Cheesy! I love this fangan so much right now, and I can’t wait to see the Class Trial. You guys worked so hard on it, and did an amazing job! Keep up the good work, but also take your time as well because great videos like this needs time (and you guys need breaks as well).
See, I would’ve quickly checked if Star’s Monokaller could also be unlocked via button instead of fingerprint where whoever lured her into the kitchen’s name would’ve been displayed in case the texts were also accessible. I think it’s an easy bet that the one in Mabel’s of all rooms was accessible via button for the same reason Star’s door was temporarily unlocked- to expose potential evidence that Monokuma didn’t feel the need to explain. Whenever anyone else has already pointed this out or at least something along those lines or not, these are my only two cents on what I could say in case it hasn’t already been covered in the comments. Unfortunately cliff hangers have to be a thing to promote the only higher tier emotion than happiness IMO- that being hype.
Yeah, I also wondered why nobody did that! Even if it failed, checking stars monocaller would've been one of the first things I'd try and do to get more evidence... Good thinking, but I guess we'll have to wait until the class trial to figure it out...
Outstanding Work! The one of the last few evidences, the hairball has black hair in it like Mabel said. Dib, Zim and Eddy have black hair (I’m not counting Ed because he has ginger hair as shown in one of the EEnE S1 episodes) so the killer could be either one of them. I don’t think Cartman is the culprit but he may be heavily involved plus his hair is brown. And now we’re getting to the point of the trial in the next video, I can’t wait to see what the trial room would look like.
Look at 1:52:03 Look how nervous Mabel is to enter stars room even Monokuma said it was a good idea to search for clues. Mabel looked really scared like dipper might find something for evidence.
One thing I can't help but notice is the name of the investigation music mentions that it's 'Dipper's Version'... Either that's just because it's a remix of the original song made to fit Dipper, or Dipper's not going to be the only one heading investigations/class trials.
@@NatTheNoodler I don’t think dippers gonna die, but he’s definitley gonna become traumatized, and in no emotional condition to do anything. Think Taka from the first danganrompa
I really REALLY hope this project continues!! I never thought so many nostalgic characters could interact like this!! Good job!! I really don't want blossom or Mable to die 😂 but it is what it is. Theory: My guess is that the killer is actually bubbles. It's strange that she could talk to the fiend, I kinda suspect she's lying 🤥. Also, the flashes outside GAZ room could be form her fast flying, as if she was trying to hide evidence or get an alibi. I wouldn't put it past her to buckle under pressure and go through with it. I don't want her to die but I can only guess!!!
The amount of work an passion in this project is absolutely admirable. Looking forward to the class trial, which considering the kind of stuff that’s in class trials, we probably won’t see for a year or more.
OK, I definitely take back the whole “Mabel is the killer for sure” attitude- looking back over the evidence, I had too much tunnel vision, and I definitely missed a certain someone who’s got a lot of explaining to do… But before that, I think I can safely rule out a couple of potential killers. Cartman is almost certainly not the killer, and I think Cupcake proves this. It would make sense to me that if Cupcake couldn’t recognize a masked murderer, she’d be apprehensive of everyone. But if she’s okay with Cartman, this could mean that she has a very good reason to believe he isn’t the murderer. She may have even seen both the killer and Cartman at the same time- we never did get any information out of Cartman, and him actually seeing the (disguised) killer sounds like a big enough bombshell to save for the trial. Jenny is also extremely unlikely- despite her genuine friendship with Star and her being detained by Monokuma all night, I see a lot of suspicion thrown her way. I’m almost certain she didn’t kill Star, because of the presence of the hairball. …I don’t know what to tell you, Jenny’s hair is just paint and steel. And for anyone arguing that the hair came from Star, the fact that her hair isn’t any different- no black from the saliva, specifically- pretty much means it wasn’t her’s. The killer wouldn’t have cut Star’s hair to hide evidence, and that evidence loses all meaning if it can’t narrow down who the killer is. And from what we can gleam, it wouldn’t be Star’s, and it can’t be Jenny’s. Bubbles triggered the Body Discovery Announcement, which means she can’t be the killer. Granted, I’m admittedly taking her word for it, which I probably shouldn’t do (especially considering how incredibly suspicious I am of somebody else’s word), but aside from her very genuine reactions, I think Jenny would’ve noticed if Bubbles had somehow gone missing at some point during the night. Since Jenny is very likely not the killer (and if she was it would mean Bubbles wasn’t the killer), I think we can rule out Bubbles entirely. Blossom too by similar logic. Star didn’t kill herself. This is too complicated for that to be even remotely true. I think that’s as far as I can narrow down for now. 5 students out of 16, Star, Blossom, Bubbles, Jenny, and Cartman are almost certainly not the killer. But for those who arise my suspicion… What, exactly, was Kyle doing out of bed at 11:50? He claims he caught Cartman sneaking out, but how? He doesn’t share a room with Cartman, how is he monitoring his movements? Could it be possible that Kyle was just roaming around in the hall and happened to see Cartman leaving his room? Did Kyle go back to his room at 12:10? Remember that scene in the gym? We may not have seen everyone’s EXACT locations, but we at least got to see everyone in that scene, everyone had at least one line. Everyone except Kyle. Granted, we know he was in the gym with everyone else because of the icons, we just never saw him. And that hairball from earlier? Bubbles said nobody’s hair looked any different, but keep in mind- Kyle wears a flapped hat. We haven’t actually seen his hair. It very well COULD look different, and we just never noticed. While we’re on that subject, Dipper also wears a hat that covers a lot of his hair. We can’t count out the protagonist, not after V3. Admittedly I don’t have a ton of evidence that points to Dipper, but it COULD explain why it is that Dipper wasn’t targeted for murder. And hey, you KNOW Dipper’s gonna be accused at some point during the trail. That’s practically a given. In an earlier comment I dismissed Mabel’s theory that “Star was targeted for a reason”, but thinking about it now… she’s absolutely right. Star was sent a message to draw her specifically out. To what end? I think it almost has to be for her magical abilities/scissors. Nobody hated Star- not specifically, anyways. Cartman didn’t do it, and Vendetta and Zim both have other people they especially hate. If it was purely out of personal hate, we would’ve seen Charlotte or Dib as a bloodied corpse (or vice versa, Vendetta and Zim aren’t exactly known for having their schemes actually work). And outside of those three villains… everybody else either liked Star or was mildly annoyed with her. So if it’s not personal, it has to be about her magic. Star wasn’t known for much else. And actually… since Star made a portal with her scissors, I wonder if one Morty Smith would’ve been interested in getting his hands on those scissors? If he could somehow fix them, using his limited experience with Rick’s portal guns? But if the magic and portals are the aim, why kill Star? This case is tough. I can narrow down the suspects, and I can narrow in on a handful of potential killers. I can narrow down the how, but not the why, and I can’t link everything together just yet. I get the feeling that we CAN solve the case just with the information we have, but there’s still so much information we need to get from the trial- I especially wanna know what was going on with Monokuma for the hour he kept the girls waiting, it seems so relevant and yet so far away from when the murder theoretically would’ve happened…
Hey it can’t be Kyle because of one peace of evidence. The killers monokallet! Well yes it doesn’t tell us who’s it is, we can deduce it’s not Kyle’s or Gaz’s because they were in there rooms. if it was their monokaller then they couldn’t be in their room.
Absolutely love this!! Every aspect of this story has me hooked and I can't wait to see more!! And I love all the art and voice acting! I especially love the music! Especially the song starting at 1:00:07 (although I'm biased bc Making Fiends is my favorite show of all time and I love the music in it... still a bop though, holy hell). I'd love if some more of the songs were uploaded separately! Also, I love the little references to other cartoons. It's fun seeing all these little things I like interspersed throughout the background! As for who did the killing, well, I'm stumped. I've never been the type for making theories or anything like that so I've genuinely got no clue lol. But I really don't believe it's Charlotte, Vendetta, Kyle, Cartman, or any of the superheroes (I've seen few people saying Jenny might have done it while skimming through comments, but I just can't get behind that). I've got my own reasons for each of these and I could easily be wrong but I feel kinda confident. Anyway, love this and can't wait to see more!! I'm surprised how much I like this because I am generally uninterested in Danganronpa as a whole. Just goes to show how great this project is!! Keep up the wonderful work.
SPECULATION TIME: Okay so my four primary suspects right now are Jenny, Blossom, Mabel & Kyle However Jenny & Blossom probably couldn't have done it as Monokuma was toning down their powers at the time of the murder AND well after the murder supposedly took place, BUT keep in mind; unlike Blossom & Bubbles, Jenny herself said she was fully awake during the procedure, there's nothing stopping Jenny from telling Monokuma she plans to commit a murder and Monokuma would be ecstatic and allow Jenny to go through with her plan, plus there'd be no real reason for Monokuma to tone down Jenny's abilities after committing a murder, however there'd be little to no reason for Jenny to use the Ski Mask AND Spray Painted Sweater if this IS the case. Kyle suspecting Cartman is understandable, but he seem's a little bit too quick to accuse Cartman which only makes Kyle seem suspicious in the process, not to mention the the hairball that Cupcake hurled up looked like a blackened wad of Kyle's hair, granted it could be anyone's hair, HOWEVER a part of me still believes Kyle to be innocent as I'm sure Kyle would HATE to have been proven a hypocrite and a murderer in Cartman's presence, effectively proving himself to be worse than Cartman. I've stated why I suspect Mable in the previous video, and it largely remains the same, but essentially it boils down to Mabel's absence while Dipper was in the Nurses Office, PERHAPS she wasn't allowed to stay with Dipper due to one of the night-time rules? But nothing has indicated this being the sole possibility, so I'm left suspecting where Mabel was. One thing I think we can conclude is that the black smudge in the cabinet & on Star's back, is the black spray paint used on one of Mabel's Sweater's, whoever sprayed the Sweater likely didn't give it enough time to dry before using it, therefore still a bit wet and able to leave those black smudges. The Dying with the Stars segment is giving me Total Drama Aftermath Episode vibes. The part where Cartman ran off crying had me laughing way too hard, props to the voice actor. I loved that it was Ed that points out and addresses Dipper being the smart one who is most likely to figure out who killed Star. It breaks my heart that Charlotte doesn't yet understand that Star is dead, and no one seems to have the heart to explain it to her, god imagine what would happen if Vendetta were to be killed, how would that affect poor sweet Charlotte? You Bastards! YOU BASTARDS!!! Need I say more? Cheesy my man, you gotta upload some of that music, the investigation theme combined with the Gravity Falls theme is just incredible, as is the rest of the remixes you've made so far.
I'm 100% positive that hairball is Cartmans hair. He has BROWN HAIR. yet when Kyle punched him after the murder....His hair is black. Doesn't explain cupcakes behavior. But it is an interesting bit of evidence.
Jenny could’ve used the ski mask and the sweater for when she met Star: remember that the rooms get dim at night (something like that cant be bothered to see) so she could’ve blended in. Plus the ski masks blood could have been from when her powers were being removed
I'm gonna be honest, I do think mabel is gonna die at some point for dipper character development... But I just don't think she is the killer, It just seems too obvious- everyone's expecting it.. I'm conflicted for characters like Dib, Cartmen, and mabel- they seem like chapter 5-6 deaths in all honestly. The only fitting ways I see mabel going out is as a chpt 1 killer or chpt 5 victim/killer.
I don’t agree. The reason the Kaede thing happened in V3 is that Shuichi wasn’t sure of himself and his detective work. He was hesitant to find the truth because of a past experience. However, Dipper doesn’t need character development. He’s already already sure of himself and knows he has to face this killing game head on. Besides it’s too obvious. I’m thinking she’s going to be a survivor.
I agree. I feel like they would be suited to late-game deaths as they are too prominent to die before chapter 4 but it also doesn’t make much sense for them to survive in the end. At least, that’s what I think
I wanna say Mabel isn't the killer either but I think dib would be the support character so Mabel dieing anywhere else makes no sense and her surviving won't give dipper character development...I sadly see no other conclusion
Another great episode Cheesy and the team! I loved it! And the Monokuma Theatre replacement was really sweet. Can't wait to find out what happens next~
This is making me think more than I ever have since Gravity Falls' hidden messages. The knife is obviously the murder weapon, considering that it was wet so the killer obviously cleaned off the blood. The fact that it was put in the utensils drawer and not the knife rack literally right above it makes me think that the killer was in a rush?? If the murder occurred around the same time the message to Star was sent, 11:50pm, then I could see why, because that's literally only 10 minutes to do your murdering within the time limit of the motive. I can't really think of any reason why Star's hands are clean, and I'm not sure how the string Dib found will come into play. If the killer was in a rush for the motive, then they probably wouldn't have cared enough to restrain Star's hands, and they wouldn't have planted the scissors there to make them seem like the murder weapon. (Unless they didn't care about the scissors and Star simply dropped them into that position?????) Not entirely sure about whether or not Star was dragged either. Dipper's feeling about something being wrong makes me think something else happened, like maybe Star fought with the killer?? There is also the mentioned possibility that the killer didn't care about the motive, which would explain why the murder happened so late, but I can't really think of anyone What's interesting to note then is that Kyle and Cartman went downstairs around 11:50 as well, which presumably means that Cartman found the body if the murder had already finished by then. I don't think Cartman killed Star, especially since Kyle really thinks he did it and Cartman has his whole 'filter' thing from 'Le Petit Tourette' where he basically can't lie. It's been established that Cupcake was likely a witness to the murder, but it's noted that, during night time, the lights dim, and the killer was likely wearing the ski mask and black sweatshirt. That's probably why Cupcake trusts Cartman more than other people since she knows that he definitely didn't do it. The other person to find the body is Bubbles - so that's pretty much two people who are safe. Don't think it could've been Kyle either, since his initial reaction at the beginning to punch Cartman, who he thinks is the murderer, seems kinda genuine. The light Gaz saw could've been the dimensional scissors?? Though it was previously established that they don't work for leading out of the school, maybe someone figured out that they do work when teleporting people within the school grounds. The fact that Star's MonoKaller is still in her room makes me think she was probably the one making that light. The text sent to Star was probably from someone she trusted - someone who apparently was making an escape plan - but tbh Star trusted pretty much everyone. Also, the fact that the killer didn't go for Dipper could imply that maybe they cared about Dipper more so than they did for Star?? Mabel's an obvious suspect for this, but it's Mabel, and I doubt that she'd ever go as far as to intentionally severely hurt somebody. She literally never even hurt Pacifica Northwest, even though they were kinda like rivals. Maybe it was someone Dipper spent time with???? Don't think it could be Vendetta either, it'd be too obvious I genuinely have like no idea who it could've been. Maybe someone who didn't contribute much to the investigation, like Morty? But from what I've seen from him here and in Rick and Morty, he doesn't seem like the type to go to such extreme lengths, even if he was doing it for the motive (but then again, I haven't watched the show, maybe that equipment is super dangerous and worth saving more compared to people's lives?) It can't have been an accident since Star was intentionally lured there, so characters like Charlotte are unlikely, and I can't really see Jenny doing it either... Oh, and something bigger is definitely going on, considering Star's whole memory wipe thing of Marco and the weird glitch going on with the elevator. Man, I've spilled out all my thoughts and I still have like no clue who it is. Maybe Eddy?
I remember there was a few people that suspected Jenny, but Eddy does seem like the type to commit murder from what I’ve seen in these episodes. We never got an alibi from him, only banter between Ed and him.
@@pink_sky_morning4842 That's entirely why I just dumped my thoughts lol. Opened up the live chat and everyone's screaming that it's Mabel or Jenny but I really don't think it's either of them
I also had a gut feeling it's eddy too, the only evidence that was bothering me was that ski mask with the orange blood mark on top. So Eddy is a huge suspect
I have many things to say here. Firstly i am surprised to see that star indeed did knew marco before hopes peak. Her memories of her school life in hopes peak was taken away by the mastermind. But when she saw marco again, she didn't seem to recognize him. So if she knew marco before going to hopes peak in this fangan's universe,how come she couldn't remember him? Secondly i love that moment when kyle punched Cartman. Not only looking badass but also makes clear they will have a kaito and kokichi releatsionship and Kyle making sure cartman won't make more trouble for the group. And the Post class trial potrais of everyone really looks well animated. Makes them all look badass and interesting someway. Can't wait for the class trial.
Let's look back at this (After Part 1 of the trial) - Something kept Star from fighting the killer - Star eventually figured out how the scissors work and used them to get to the cafeteria/kitchen area - The black sweater and Star had to have been in the cabinet at some point - Comparing the blood from the neck wound and the blood on the floor, something is definitely off - Mabel seems to be leading Dipper and Dib in a weird way (I wonder what this was for) - The killer didn't put the knife on the rack, rather in the drawer, still wet (the murderer likely had too much on their hands to bring it with them) - Bubbles was part of the BDA so she can't be the murderer - Cupcake counts towards the BDA - The reason Cupcake was having positive responses to Cartman was because of the Monosauce (see the next point) - The Monosauce turned out to be a truth serum. It was left on the counter because Cartman used it the night of Star's murder. - Blossom, Bubbles, and Jenny were having their powers drained by the time of the murder - Vendetta was asleep, and Charlotte doesn't really understand the concept of death, let alone murder, so those two didn't do it - Cupcake can't distinguish people without proper sight of them (we already know that the killer was wearing the ski mask) - Dib, Star, Charlotte, and Dipper were left out of the motive - Eddy was reading "Wakeup Stories" to Ed - Zim *really* wants to live (implying that he isn't the killer, we saw during the trial) - Mabel left the infirmary early while Morty stayed behind - They used the black sweater and ski mask to lurk in the cafeteria/kitchen - If the killer was close with Dipper, they wouldn't want to target them - Dipper saw a shadow of someone at 12:20 - The ski mask was likely flipped inside out before putting it away (explaining the blood stain on the *inside* of the mask) - Cartman and Kyle were arguing as the murder was being committed - If the killer was anyone other than Mabel, they would have needed Mabel's Monokaller to get into her lab - The sweater was spraypainted black (explaining the smudges) - The way Mabel reacted when the Mystery Monokaller was found seems weird - Star was lured to the kitchen - The reason Star left without her Monokaller wad because she was using the scissors - The string has black splotches on it, so it had to have touched the black sweater at some point
OH MAN, I spent the entire time taking notes and I’ve got about 2 1/2 pages of observations and notes and theories about this case. I don’t really feel like translating all of them here at the moment (though I’m sure I‘ll get to that at some point), but to just give the highlights of my findings: -Mabel is the killer. I will die on this hill. I’ve always believed she was, and although I kept an open mind to the possibility of it being anyone else, It is SO unlikely to be anyone else at this point that I am willing to put 100% faith in it. Mabel seems to be very aware of where evidence is and how much of it there is. She’s quick to point out stuff like the knife being washed, she wants to stay in the kitchen to look for more evidence, despite Dipper and Dib seemingly ready to move on. Why is the evidence so confusing? Because Mabel knows more than anyone how good a detective Dipper is. She likely went out of her way to make things confusing because she knew he’d be one of the main investigators. Between actual mysteries she’s been a part of and perhaps even taking a little inspiration from Duck-Tective, I could totally see her having the forethought to be extremely careful with the evidence and being smart enough to plant false evidence. And with her silly demeanor, most people wouldn’t suspect a thing. Not targeting Dipper is a huge point for Mabel being the killer- Mabel of course spins it as someone having a vendetta (not her) against Star, but realistically, nobody does. At least, nobody does against JUST Star. Vendetta, Cartman, and Zim are all evil, but Cartman in particular is a lazy fucker who would’ve NEVER opted to fight someone when he could kill them in their sleep. And Vendetta and Zim, evil as they are, again have no reason to go for Star when Dipper is right there. Mabel seems very mistrusting of Dib, very reluctant to let him join their mystery squad. Which is RICH coming from little miss “Shifty Grifter who’s been lying to us all summer and might be destroying the world with this portal, I trust you more than my bro-bro who’s BEGGING me to shut it down!”. Mabel has always been the opposite of Dipper’s “Trust No One!” Approach, but feels the need to keep an eye on Dib? Probably because she’s worried he’ll find something. He’ll be harder to manipulate, he won’t have any bias towards her. Dipper probably doesn’t suspect Mabel for a second- at least, he definitely doesn’t want to. Dib is much more likely to see the bigger picture, and would have FAR less hang ups about seeing Mabel as a suspect. As soon as it was mentioned that Cupcake needed to see a face, I immediately thought that Mabel knitting a mask was a huge possibility. Sure enough… I do think that Cupcake saw her face though. I think the mask was pulled off during the struggle and that’s why some blood got inside. I think Cupcake was reacting so badly out of trauma. Being super vicious because she was in the presence of the killer, naturally. But she was friendly towards Cartman? Let’s say Mabel killed Star. She was wearing a recently painted black sweater and a mask. Time of death, maybe about midnight? Cupcake sees Mabel once she’s unmasked, Cupcake is witness 1. While Mabel is messing up the crime scene, at 12:10 someone approaches. It’s Cartman. To avoid being seen, Mabel crawls into the cupboard, paint from the sweater smearing on the cupboard and Star’s back. Cartman sees Cupcake, and perhaps in a rare moment of sympathy, he actually manages to comfort her. Cartman is Witness 2. Mabel quickly puts the mask away in the supply closet and slips away at 12:20. Bubbles later finds Star’s body, and contrary to her belief, is witness 3. There’s still a couple of things I can’t quite piece together yet, but I think something along those lines makes sense for now. Some other notes that I can’t quite place: -I think the flashes in Gaz’s room were from Star’s dimensional scissors. They can’t make portals to leave the school, but to travel within the school? Definitely possible. I think Gaz’s monokaller was taken from her room? We have an unknown monokaller to account for, and with a) nobody mentioning their Monokaller was missing and b) Gaz not leaving her room until the trial and thus perhaps not noticing it was missing until then, it being hers is the best candidate. - Something I just thought of- I think Cupcake was definitely restrained using the rope Dib found in the garbage. It’s covered in black stains. On top of that, I believe the “hairball” might be pieces of chewed up rope from her trying to break free. The stuff regarding Monokuma’s mystery hour, the gym scene, the actual murder weapon- I have theories about, but far less solid evidence to back it up. I think these are things that will have to come to light during the actual trial.
When you put it that way, it certainly does make Mabel look suspicious. Parts of her behavior from time to time did make her seem a little sus, such as refusing to go into Star's room for evidence. I'll admit, I was suspecting Morty at first because of the size of the Sweater that's been used, which seems far too big for Mabel. We also can't forget that anyone could have accessed Mabel's lab to spray paint it black, and hide their MonoKaller in that giant egg. However, if it is Mabel, then it would make sense why the culprit would ignore Dipper, since he was incapacitated at the time. Mabel obviously wouldn't kill her own brother. What I like to know is, why pick Star out as her victim out of everyone else?
@@dragonman2168 Then there's the idea of the mystery MonoKaller being able to be open and taking a look at the messages. I've seen others pull out ideas like it's Jenny's MonoKaller because of no fingerprints, but that only makes me question how and why did she lose it in the first place. This did leave me stumped because I didn't want suspect Mabel. My only answer to Star being picked would probably be something like an easy kill. Problem is that there are others far more vulnerable to attacks and the Idea that Star could teleport within the school beats that as well.
@@zerozero4101 Yeah, that's true. Even without her wand, Star has been shown to hold her own in a fight, so Star seems more like she'd be a tricky kill. Charlotte or Ed seem the most vulnerable and gullible, so I think they would be easier targets. Wouldn't they?
@@dragonman2168 Yeah, they'd definitely would be more open to attacks, a surprise attack even more. It just boggles me on why the Culprit chose Star. The only other possibilities that would be the case would be taking her by surprise, but we pretty much classified that as less likely because of the ability to teleport or being able to fight back. My only thought was being able to knock her out and went for the kill that way, but there weren't any other injuries aside from the neck wound.
Do you think Mabel is tryin to pin the blame on Jenny? Star felt really close to Jenny. The mono caller had to be Jenny’s to trick star to go to the kitchen. Mabel has been acting suspicious of not wanting to go places to find evidence in other places which makes me think that she might be the one who did this. Still don’t understand why star was her target tho? Star and Jenny trusted each other so Mabel must’ve known about and used it to her advantage. Mabel also knows the secret code as well. I think it’s Mabel , sorry dipper.
At 52:40 Immediate theory, cartmen found star bleeding out and took her to the kitchen to try to save her, The reason star's hands weren't on her neck is because cartmen was holding her neck, As such, the kitty saw cartmen try to save her, and is only kind to him because of this
As much as I hate to say it, I have a feeling Morty is the culprit here. While it could feasibly still be Mabel like most people speculate, Morty doesn’t really have a stone-cold alibi and has the motivation to do so with the portal gun. The limited screen time he’s gotten has framed him as a really nice guy which is sort of odd considering his series’ general tone. It kinda fits. I don’t know, maybe it’s just because I want it written here just in case this comes true but whatever. I also really want him to last longer but I’ve got a bad feeling.
only 11 minutes in and cartman as the antagonist is pure gold EDIT/SPOILERS FOR INVESTIGATION ok...im about 80% sure their intentionally setting mabel up as a red herring and the killer is probably blossom
i don't think the killer is blossom because i'm pretty sure bubbles immediately went to the kitchen and thats when she found stars body that wouldn't be enough time for blossom to murder star
I'm still sus about Jenny, I mean the mono thing found in mabels room didn't need fingerprints, and a robot doesn't have fingerprints ( I think), so It might be her, but I have seen some fair arguments, so this isn't a 100% teue
I didn’t think of the fingerprint thing! I was sus of her two and the two superhero girls. Plus the fiend girls. There’s also Eric, but no way is he the one since he’s this series antagonist
@@ArandanoEstrellado but I will say this, the rope Dib found at the end confuses me, like it has black stuff on it, but like, can the fiend even grab a rope, like I don't thinks so, also, why the rope, the only thing I can think off is that that's the murder weapon, and the killer threw it away and slashed her throat to make it look like the knife was the murder weapon, but if that's the case that would put Mabel st the top of the suspect list, since she has similar materials, plus the killers mono thing was also there (althought the mono thing being hidden away is useless since if it is the killers aka Mabel mono thing, why would she hide it, instead of keeping it with her) (And as I said that's the main thing that makes me suspect jenny
God this was amazing, legit contender for my fav ongoing Ronpa fan series atm lol. (and that's counting not just the YT, but also Insta and Wordpress ones) Great stuff by the team, take your time with the Trial!
I think it may be Morty here's why: That portal gun could actually explode or something if it's used. It's also one of the only devices that can get them out of the school not to mention Rick would more or less kill Morty if he got out of here and without the portal gun. In fact rick is most likely dead if monokuma has that. All of that could have driven Morty insane to the point of murder. Plus Morty jumped into the scene like "What's going on? Oh god is she dead???" Pretty weird way of walking into a crime scene he also recovered after seeing it pretty quickly. And finally Morty could actually fit in those sweaters better than most others and it very well could have been used as part of a disguise. Overall Morty is not talked about enough and we should take EVERYONE into consideration here.
Ok I just have a few problems with this theory or opinion here’s the thing with that if Monokuma can stop stars scissors then he can stop the portal gun why would Rick even kill morty? Rick has almost sacrificed his life and cares about morty he just doesn’t show it there’s an episodes where morty steels and breaks the portal at times and he doesn’t kill him for that Just because monokuma has it doesn’t mean ricks dead he is the smartest man in the universe and is pretty resilient I’m pretty sure he’s still alive Monokuma just took the portal gun and even then how do we know it’s not just a portal gun from another universe That isn’t enough to make morty kill someone like morty has been through some Shit something like that isn’t gonna make him break I mean he literally had to literally abandon his home universe because he fucked something up hell all of mortys adventures with Rick would make anyone kill someone out of insanity morty isn’t easy to break Oh god is she dead is reasonable when you consider what series mortys from I mean he seen people survive crazier stuff and him recoving fast is normal as he’s seen Death so many times like to many times to count and more if you include the fact almost everyone in mortys home universe is dead I mean just because of that one thing doesn’t mean he’s automatically he killer he might be able to fit in it well which I don’t really see morty isn’t talked about enough because well he’s been through the most shit out of anyone here that it kinda doesn’t make much sense for him to kill I respect your opinion or is it a theory? What ever it just has a few problems I hope you don’t see this as me saying anything wrong to you as I don’t mean harm if you are reading this tho I hope your having a good day or night
@@bestaround3323 those times were out of self defense and accidental like season 5 episode 1 all of that was accidental and morty has no reason to kill anyone here on top of that morty is smarter then looks and is cool under pressure that whole crime scene doesnt really match morty like at all and we’ve seen how pacifistic morty is and can be to
@@Flap_jacks69 Yeah, accidental and self defense, like when he slaughtered a kingdom over wine. That was not on accident, that was on purpose and with malice. The death crystal chaos of course can't be forgotten, as he did all of that just to be with a crush. Morty has killed for less. Although a better point against Morty would be how he is able to keep his cool so far. Morty isn't exactly a good actor.
this is just so AHHHHHHH ok really hoping Kyle isn't the killer here, also good punch my man! can't wait to know who killed Star but oh boi will it be a ride :D
I think star was killed by blossom. The text was sent probably from one of the 3 and as Jenny said removing her powers took awhile. Removing the others was just draining chemical x which is why I think blossom killed her after sending the message from her monokaller.((edit:so I saw a comment and it brought me to a whole new conclusion. MABLE is the killer no doubt in my mind. What brought me there is Jenny's monokaller messaged star because Henny doesn't have a fingerprint to unlock here with. So mable took it, hid it after sending the message and wanted to save waddles so she killed star. She also turned a pastel sweater black to sneak around with the black mask. She was certain on the wigs to drag them away from the masks. She didn't want to check stars room cause of the monokaller. She only went along with her ultimate room cause she didn't have a choice. She knew the knife was washed and was insulted dipper didn't figure it out. So my theory of blossom being released early cause she was drained earlier was definitely wrong. MABLE just kept dodging any clues she could and in the end it's mable no matter how you look at it
Nah imo Mabel has the timeline to do it but the motive is weak. I saw another motive that a different comment suggested. someone was going to kill Dipper so Mabel murdered to defend him. Yes Mabel cares about Waddles but like… she’s not that childish. I think she’s childish in other ways, but if she’s murdering just for waddles and nothing else, I’d be disappointed in an otherwise very well written fangan. Also Mabel isn’t righteous enough to murder because she cares about all the hostages from what I know of her. She’s not a superhero who’s burdened with the lives of people she’s not associated with. So it makes sense that a troublemaker created a scenario where both star and Mabel encounter each other. And that trouble maker probably wanted to save their loved one but didn’t want to get their hands dirty. I have other problems with it being Mabel but it’s mainly just gripes with Danganronpa writing… but I’m also sitting with the idea of… if it was Mabel… why would she put the black sweater back in her closet? Why wouldn’t she put it in her room? If she thought nobody would look in her ultimate lab then why would she bother to hide the monokaller or the sweater? She would’ve just left it out. Part of me thinks there a possibility Dib thinks it’s Mabel and Mabel is the “obvious first case suspect” instead of Cartman. Dib gets half the class against her and they do a scrum debate to defend her and then blah blah blah REAL CULPRIT.
I just decided to check the channel yesterday, and BOOM, sneak peak and all, some time later, announcement it's coming TOMORROW! And now, here it is, we just gotta wait.
I think our culprit might just be Kyle, from how much we've gotten to see him, and how he reacted to things, it'd be the perfect cover up for his plan. Only thing left would be to find out what the reason is
Plus, since Kyle's not one of the select few people who's able to remember Kenny's deaths, he'd be fully under the impression that death for him would be permanent. This detail also makes Cartman falling for the motive even more unlikely, since he's been shown to be aware that Kenny has died many times.
Spoilers for not only this video, but also all of Danganronpa. You have been warned. So, is a 2 or v3 situation. As clearly it isn't as simple as 1. Not to mention star seems to be quite off, to say the least in that segment, almost like she is just watching a gameshow, or a simulation. Not to mention the digitization that seemed to take place as the cast were going to the trial room.
Oh yeah. This case is DEFIANTLY being revisited later, likely on the tampered memories OR the magic wand. Star atm has too many unanswered questions surrounding her to be ignored
I'm speculating that maybe it could be.. Morty? I'm still unsure though. My main reason for this would be the large sweater spray-painted black, and since it's a larger sweater, I'm immediately drawn to the taller characters. But since Star's dead, and Jenny was MIA since she was being powered down by Monokuma, that mainly leaves Morty. Or you could maybe stretch it and say Ed too, since he's kind of tall, but I doubt it. The unknown Monokaller is most definitely Jenny's, no doubt, but I still can't really say she's the killer due to the whole thing with her, Bubbles and Blossom being powered down. I don't know, this investigation kind of stumped me.
@@AnInkStick but the problem is, we still don’t know what Jenny did after an hour of being powered down. She may have an alibi, just not an airtight one. Bubbles woke around 6am, so Jenny could have left before then, killed Star and dipped back into power down mode.
I CAN'T WAIT!!! - To watch this tomorrow because this starts at Midnight for me... Have a great day everyone else. Edit: Not gonna lie, and I feel very bad for doing this... But I low-key ship Dib and Dipper for some reason...
Wow, this has left me hooked. I've been so anxious to see how you and the rest of the team will handle the class trial video. I really hope it's soon because I wanna see it through and through~
SPOILERS Now that there's evidence, I have a few suspects. First is Jenny. Them being awake the whole time is suspicious and like the comments said, they could've easily just killed Star. The Monocaller message also is kinda suspicious since only Jenny, Blossom, and Bubbles were taken by Monokuma, thus making them the only ones who could've said "finished early". Jenny also had their mom as one of the hostages making them a good suspect. Another one is Blossom. Her being asleep could've been a lie and maybe she did finish earlier and Jenny didn't see? I'm not sure but the ski mask's location is at the warehouse where the dumbbells were at. Blossom knows the location of the dumbbells so maybe she also knew where that ski mask was? and a possible place to hide it? She's also one of the people who could've texted Star, making her a suspect as well. (Buttercup is also a hostage so I kinda think she's likely to kill someone)
Spoiler NOW FOR THE MURDER ITSELF I honestly think Star brought the scissors with her in order to well, help. Another thing is to kill??? someone since she acted as if she didn't know Marco. I think she actually knew him and was planning to kill someone to save him. She may have hidden in the cabinet which explains the smudges and surprise attacked the killer. The killer though, also had intentions to kill, thus as to why they had a ski mask and stuff. They killed her by stabbing her with a knife since the knife is pretty close to the cabinet and the body. I'm thinking Cartman saw this all making him one of the 3 that saw the body, the others are Cupcake and Bubbles. Another theory I'm thinking is that the killer had no intention to kill and the it was Cartman wearing the ski mask, explaining the tiny blood spot. The killer may have acted in self defense and accidentally killed Star in the process. I'm thinking the killer used the dimensional scissors to go inside Star's room and place her monopad there, explaining the light that Gaz saw. I'm thinking that should've happened after 12:10 since Kyle? was waiting for Cartman around that time. Since Dipper saw the shadow around 12:20, it's safe to saw Gaz saw that light in between 12:10-12:20. They don't need their own monopad though since the were with Monokoma, meaning they don't have to go into their rooms. They could've just went back and pretended as if Monokuma were draining their powers. That's why I think the killer is either Jenny or Blossom since they are the most reasonable ones. As for the hairball, I think it's just Vendetta's hair. But I also think it may have been the killer's hair. They may have fed Cupcake some of the monosauce so that it doesn't attack them, that's why I think it's Blossom since she's one of the people who know how to use the Mewwave (idk the spelling) but yeah!
Hello everyone I just want to share my overall theory and cross out the few supects since some people in the poll suggested them. So be warned this will be fill with spoilers. Theory: Ok after reviewing the evidence I know I can cross off 4 people immediately. They are Dipper (due to be the protagonist and he was unconscious during the murder), Blossom, Bubbles, and Jenny since Bubbles has stated that they were kept by Monokuma for the power removal the entire night so it couldn’t be them. Next I will cross off two suspects which is Kyle and Cartman since Kyle stated they talk at 11:50 and talk for a couple minutes. This is because the culprit send a text at 11:50 and Star stated she will be right down so I think it is impossible for both to do this while talking to each so I will cross those two off. Next I will cross off Dib Mebrane due to it not making sense for him to find the monocaller in the wool egg (I forgot what it’s call) since he could’ve just lie and said there was nothing and to literally just help find a few evidence that could be against so it doesn’t make sense for him to be the culprit. I also doubt that it’s Mabel as many would believe do to her title as the sweater maker. And there was one problem with the black sweater found in the room. It was spray by a black spray can but to me what is strange is doesn’t she have some black string and sew to create a black sweatshirt so why would she just leave evidence in a place that would be against her. Also don’t forget these rooms could be move into since they don’t seem to have any locks. I would also cross out Gaz due to a gut feeling and I think it make sense for her to be evidence and. Help for this case to happen since I doubt she would murder anyone since she have no motive to kill anyone. I would cross off Eddy due to the class trope of buff characters dying in the 4th chapter but I can’t have that feeling of him dying early or surviving. Also I do admit Kyle’s alibi isn’t as air type but if we can assume the culprit was the figure Dipper saw at 12:20 then we can be for a little bit sure it isn’t Kyle since Cartman will be his alibi too. Overall theory: Dipper, Mabel, Blossom, Bubbles, Jenny, Dib, Gaz, Cartman, Kyle, couldn’t be the culprits Leaving these suspects: Edd, Eddy, Vendetta, Charlotte, Zim, and Morty.
I am now almost certain it is either Morty or Jenny: - Both tall enough to be the figure Dipper saw, and to fit into the large dyed sweater - Both on friendly enough terms with Star that her reaction to their request would be polite - Both have knowledge of advanced technology and portals and such like what Star's scissors are used for For Morty: - Has absolutely no alibi and gave nothing of use when interrogated besides he's glad Dipper recovered - Has hair for the hairball For Jenny: - The message on the monokaller would suggest it's her, she even said she was awake during the power removal process, and thus would have realized it was over quicker than the power puffs who were knocked out longer due to anesthesia. She could have then left for a while, only to later sneak back into the basement and played along with their idea that the whole process took far longer. - Said monokaller may not have worked for Dib because it was meant to be used by a robot, not a human Body discovery guesses: Witness #1: Cartman Witness #2: Whichever of Morty/Star DIDN'T do it (Edit: This makes no sense my apologies. It was cupcake) Witness #3 Bubbles I think cupcake is likely just scared bc she saw a masked figure commit the murder and can't tell who it was besides Cartman, who was also there but is not the culprit. Obviously Cartman then refused questioning because he at the moment cannot lie (due to the monosauce), as is shown by his sense of humor getting messed with, as well as his announcement of having to take a shit in very literal words.
Ngl I think star had the broken heart on her cheeks instead of a full heart because I think she was heart broken before she died because someone that she trusted betrayed her and that expression stayed like that
Hello! So i wanted to make some request characters so maybe i can tell you? 1st is: bill Cipher, he would be suspected as the mastermind, he would kinda be blamed but… he has another secret from that idea.. 2nd: Roadrunner from a show called looney tunes, he would be dippers other supporter! Even if he can’t speak literally, mabel or bubbles can also understand what he/she says, but no one really knows how… 3rd/ final request character: luz noceda from the owl house, luz would be VERY terrified without eda or king… those are my request characters!
This I awsome I can see all the work put into this the artists, writers, editors, voice actors it's all great you've inspired a lot of my art lately and I just want to say keep up the good work I can't wait for the class trail and more to come!
I wasn't able to watch the premiere, but I'm here now. Edit: I'll be editing this as I go. It seems Bubbles, Blossom, and Jenny have alibis, since they were all put to sleep by Monokuma. Also, the black smudges in the cabinet? Probably made by Cupcake. Could Cupcake be the culprit? Is that allowed? I have no idea. Ok so I'm currently thinking Star tried to kill someone, but that someone ended up killing Star instead. Just a feeling currently. Alright so, video is over. I have a few suspects, those being Kyle, Morty, and of course, Cupcake.
Jenny does not have a proper alibi as she was awake for around an hour (possibly? I’ll have to rewatch I forget) and Cupcake counted towards the BDA as a witness, so it cannot be Cupcake. edit: Forgot to add, remember Star was lured to the kitchen so it disproves a Sayaka case from happening.
The Investigation was super confusing to me. I felt like I was getting somewhere but also nowhere at the same time because the evidence just doesnt seem to fit together or point to anyone specific. I wanna update this comment with some theories at some point and im ecxited to hear fan theories.
I loved this already The live chat was great. And the art, sprites, music, everything was great. Also there are 4 character i think who would done it 1: jenny 2: bubbles 3: Charlotte 4: mabel Can't wait for the trial 😋 Time to wait for another 100000000 years for trial 😍 Edit: nvm scratch out bubbles. Just realize she has a alibi 💀✋🏾️
I am so excited for the Trial, if I guessed right or not on who the killer is (if one of my suspects is the killer) and how the execution is going to be. The "Dying with the Stars" part was really cool and funny. I am excited to see when Star is talking to her killer.
Kyle pulling the "you bastards" line will never get old.
Also star making a talk show for dead people literally is something I could imagine happening.
Kinda like the one from the start of the first class trial?
Gotta say, Dying With The Stars is the perfect replacement for Monokuma Theatre, and something I 100% was not expecting. Can’t wait to see the shenanigans that come with that!
I especially like how Star roasted Monokuma and kicked him out. Savage.
Definitely gave me Total Drama Aftermath episode vibes
It’s sad but kind of sweet how none of the Mystery Trio can bring themselves to tell Charlotte why Star won’t “wake up.”
Probably because her and Vandetta come from a childrens show where they never seen a dead body before. Even with all the fiends running amuck in clamberg
@@ultrawarlord5656 Some fans of the show have speculated if Charlotte really doesn’t understand the concept of death or if she’s just in denial about it. In the episode “Parents,” she tells Vendetta that her mom and dad are currently working as astronauts on a space station, which her grandmother quickly reaffirms; so either her parents really are still alive, or it’s a lie that her grandmother made up so Charlotte wouldn’t have to deal with the grief of losing them.
@@ultrawarlord5656 that logic falls apart when you remember that most of the cast comes from a kids show too and are
Familiar with death
@@brandommario2 well maybe Charlotte is so happy go lucky all the time that she dosen't understand the concept of death. Like in that episode where she believed that her parents where astronauts and staying on the moon. Maybe that probably hints that either their still Alive and are living on the moon or her grandmother told her their on the moon so she won't feel traumatized about her parents actually dead. Also Morty, Kyle and Cartman come from adult cartoon shows where they have seen someone die before.
Oh peck, Charlotte's gonna have a "Learning with Pibby" style arc if she ends up being one of the survivors, isn't she?
Theory: The light that Gaz saw was probably the portal from Stars scissors. The killer probably used them to get back to there room without being seen by anyone
That’s actually what I’m thinking too or it could be star trying to escape her killer. Either way I agree that the light gaz saw has to be the portal star creates
but i thought stars portal scissors didn't work
@@jacobcooper4372 It can probably work inside the school, cause stars portal didn't work because she tried to use them to leave the school
Could work :]
I doubt it. We just saw in daily life that the portals don't work, and even if they worked inside the school, how would the culprit know about it? So I think Star was protecting herself from the killer with her scissors, which caused some portals to open up, and that's why there were flashing lights in Gaz's room.
2:15:55 i love the Detail that star,jenny and morty are together there,as they are the only characters of the cast who isn't with another character of the same cartoon.
Dib: you'd have to be an idiot to think just a wig is a good enough disguise
I dunno, Dib, it's been working for Zim all this time
Wich would make everyone INCLUDING zim himself (apart maybe dib himself) IDIOTS (yes even profesor membrane AND gaz when they're both supposed to have BIG BRAINS 🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠🧠😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂)
That’s exactly what I thought lol
No, Zim has contact lenses too. That makes it a perfectly viable disguise.
I want to thank Cheesy and everyone that helped him make it for Cartoons In Danganronpa
You gonna give them Wilkins Coffee too?
Yes this is a very well made fan game
Oh yes, the one and only, *wilkins coffee*
Oh my god Wilkins Coffee
I’m cackling over the fact the Dora the Explorer arrow is used to click evidence 😂
Some very quotable quotes from throughout the video
"If I respond to you, you'll just keep talking and the very last thing I want is for you to keep talking."
"Nonsense! Zim has done absolutely nothing wrong and thus shall not be punished!"
"That's it! I'm hugging you until you feel better!"
"I'm machine washable too!"
"Excitement knows no definitions!"
"Don't you want to know what happened, even if it might end up disappointing you?"
"THE FAULT IS IN YOUR BRAIN, BACON BOY!"
"Bloodshed? Good. Violence after bloodshed while everyone's watching? Not gonna fly!"
"Ah slapstick, what would I do without you..." Never change Ed, never change.
"She twinkled her last twinkle" was my personal favorite of this episode lol
"I miss my nose, Dipper D"
"Blondie wasn't my favorite person ever or anything, but she didn't deserve to get checkmated in Monokuma Monopoly."
Bacon boy 😭
1. This investigation confuses me. I’m genuinely clueless who the culprit is at this point.
2. I was half convinced I was having a fever dream with that last segment. Great replacement for Monokuma Theater though.
For 1. I think that's what Cheesy intended to throw us off
@@zoa1530 I DO know a few things though.
Since Bubbles found it first and the body announcement went off, she CAN'T be the culprit as she counted towards the witnesses. And Cupcake saw the body, so that's the 2nd witness. There WAS a third witness, likely Eric, that pulled a Byakuya and tampered with the scene.
The killer can't be Eric with the previous intel, since he would have to be a witness. Kyle also isn't the killer, he's too pissed off at Eric and he was waiting for Eric, clearing HIM. If the power draining worked properly, Jenny and Blossom should've been out of commission. And I can't see Vendetta OR Charlotte being the blackened. The fiend can't have been the murderer due to it being a witness, as I said above. Charlotte would absolutely NOT murder, and Vendetta probably won't be careless enough to let her fiend spot her. Dipper is obviously innocent. Dib is the sidekick, and brought the wire that will probably find the culprit, so he is clear. And Gaz was trying to sleep, so she's out of the picture.
Mabel, Zim, Morty, Ed, and Eddy are the only potential killers, unless something new is learned. (My money's on it being Morty)
@@zoa1530 yeah this video did a good job at throwing us red herrings, but then again I am pretty dumb so idk.
@@anonymousanonymous9587 I hope not because I want Morty and Mabel to be part of the survivors!
I think it's blossom tbh
I cant be the only one who laughed at eric cartman getting punched and running off crying and god i love this passion project too much qwq
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Okay. Based on the clues we currently have, I think we can make a pretty good analysis on our possible suspects, but for now I think it's best to list the people we can rule out from this case as the blackened:
- Bubbles: She was a part of the first 3 who discovered the body and it's dictated that the blackened doesn't count.
- The Membranes: Dib, as the son of the founder of this school, is actively trying to solve the mystery along with Dipper, and Gaz has a solid Alibi.
- Charlotte: I don't think she fully understands the concept of "Death" let alone "Murder".
- Ed: The murderer is apparently someone who "doesn't think things through", even if the murder itself was apparently premeditated, I don't think Ed had the wits to pull something like this, even for a first case.
- Kyle: If what he's saying is 100% true, he is very unlikely to be the one who did it considering that he didn't leave the 2nd floor during the time window of the murder.
Things we know from the case so far:
- The theory of Star being a Sayaka has been debunked considering she was lured to the kitchen by someone.
- The murderer was someone who was big enough to wear the painted sweater and who knew were the masks were at the time and who had contact with Star via the MonoKaller, but also someone who didn't quite thought things through since they carelessly placed the knife in a drawer instead of where it belonged.
- Cupcake counts as a witness for the body discovery announcement and assuming that she was going to be key to solve the mystery was indeed correct.
- The shining light that woke Gaz up was Star's dimension scissors teleporting her to the cafeteria. It was established that she can't LEAVE the school with them, but it was never explained if she could teleport INSIDE or AROUND the school itself. Seems like a detail we might see come to light during the trial.
- The murder occurred either slightly before the hostage motive expired, or right after.
- We don't know who the third person was for the Body Discovery announcement yet. Theory or evidence could point at Cartman, who then decided to maybe tamper with the crime scene, but this has yet to be confirmed since we don't know his side of the story yet.
- the Monokaller found in Mabel's talent room could be Jenny's and used to lure Star out either by her or someone who managed to steal it somehow.
My only suspects right off the bat could be:
- Jenny
- Mabel
- Vendetta
- Morty
Assuming Kyle was telling the truth, the witness was most likely Eric, who possibly fucked with the crime scene
@@zoruamaster2495 True, I haven't though about the possibility of Cartman messing with the crime scene. We have yet to hear his side of the story, but I did thought of him being the 3rd witness.
@@FabschOblivion669 I know this is random, but what if Cartman washed the knife off and placed it in the drawer since he couldn't reach the holder on the wall (he probably didn't have the time)? It's also possible that he was the one who created the Monosauce with the Memwave and used it to fake blood at the crime scene...
I’d strike jenny since she was getting her powers all drained.
@@AnInkStick Yes, but she was awake during the whole process. But according to her, they were held there a whole hour after the draining was all done. It’s unlikely that she’s lying, but the chance is always there. Also I’m willing to bet that the MonoKaller that was found is Jenny’s that was maybe stolen somehow.
That bit with the “elevator” definitely indicates this whole thing has something meta going on.
I thought it was just a teleporter
@@zoruamaster2495 what about that background of binary and how dipper glitched a bit when it was happening?
This series is riddled with references and allusions, I wouldn't be surprised if this was something inspired by the Invader ZIM series. Granted, I'm not sure where to watch it to confirm it or not... but if Professor Membrane is the one behind this iteration of Hope's Peak, it's not too hard to put two-and-two together.
@@theheroneededwillette6964 I can’t remember where it’s from, but one of the cartoon series has a teleporter that breaks people down into code
@@zoruamaster2495 Code Lyoko probably, it's def a creative reference if it is.
I would just like to truly say from the bottom of my heart thank you for giving star this unexpected yet really fun dead host role! It’s really cute and creative to have a talk show for the victims to get there spotlight and an amazing way for star to shine a character who I love and was truly worried about being forgotten💕
If anything this now makes me even more excited for the trial and further victims to come truly you and every special person who made this dream into reality are incredible smart and talented.✨
I was thinking the same thing. Star is my favorite cast member based solely on her presence in CiDR (I actually haven't watched her show). It stung seeing her go first, but this makes it feel better. I do wonder what it'll be like between her and whoever killed her.
It kinda reminds me of the dead host part in danganmon, hosted by Marie and Century
Yeah. Tell me about it. Also, I thought it was really funny when she roasted Monokuma and said that her segment was replacing Monokuma theater. Mainly for her reason being, "people want to hear what the cast has to say, not some rando ramblings from a Mr. Huggles robot." Hahahahahaha. Oooooooooooohhhhhhhh. Damn Star, you are savage. You roasted Monokuma so bad, not even an ice pack is enough to heal a burn that bad. Talk about Shining Star dropping some serious HEAT on that obnoxious bear. Hehe. Monokuma's reaction to being dragged away was funny too when Star was all, "Take him away, boys," in such a clam and casual tone.
That all aside, with how chipper and adorable Star is, I definitely think she's going to make a good Hostess for this new segment. I may have only seen the first episode or two of her actual show, but I can already say that Star Butterfly is a really cute, funny, and lovable character. Am I right, folks?"
SAMMEEE!!! I was literally so happy she was gonna be the talk host of her own dead show! (No pun intended) I was still bitter she died first, she was the one I was rooting for the most (and look where that got me) and how I thought she will be forgotten forever never to be appear unless it’s small flashbacks. Happy to hear she’ll be annoying us in her talk show so very very thankful
The level of care and detail on this series is perfect, you do such a good job on this cheesy!
This is 100% my favorite Fanganronpa ever, can't wait for what the trial will be like!
I have never been more scared of a trial in my life. I'm almost certain it's Jenny as the killer now. This makes me sad as she's an underrated character, but at least her motive seems noble.
Evidence?
@@vadandrumist1670 A few reasons. Jenny is one of the few characters that could hack a monocaller being a robot herself, two she'd know how to lure Star, three she is next to Star's room so she'd have seen Star's actions outside of Gaz's room. So she lures Star to most likely talk, but Star feels threatened and they fight and Star soon gets killed after.
@@KairiMorin She.. was being drained of her powers. If she tried to leave, Monokuma wouldn't let her
Besides, anyone could had taken her Monocaller, since a robot doesn't have fingerprints, and posed as Jenny. as the killer was someone who was aware that Jenny trusted star, and used that trust to lure star
@@incorporated6387 You assuming Jenny doesn't have finger prints. So then she'd still need to have something to keep the device from being used by anyone else. As for the timing, that's a plot whole I admit, but I think Monokuma would have finished before Star's estimated death time. But I can't prove it.
Theory: The killer wore the sweater while killing Star, to catch the blood from getting on their clothes. After she was dead, they took the blood stained sweater to the lab and used black spray paint to cover over the blood stains.
alternatively, the killer spray painted it beforehand and afterwards turned the ski mask and sweater inside out to hide the blood. that explains the stain in the cabinet and on star's back, as well as the bloodstain in the ski mask
I have a theory the murder weapon was the misplaced kitchen knife found in the drawers. Meanwhile the scissors were either a red herring or not intended to be there.
2:15:55 the artstyle of everyone in this Pree class trial protrais. Really well Designed. Great work
It might sound pretty out there, but I'm calling the string as the murder weapon.
Mainly because the Monokuma File says the throat laceration is the presumed cause of death instead of outright confirming it, which is usually a telltale sign that it, in fact, isn't the cause. That would also explain the lack of blood on Star's hands and why there isn't a massive amount on her clothes. In turn, I believe this would explain how the black smudge got onto Star's back, they strangled her with the string from behind.
For the laceration itself, I believe that was Cartman's doing. It seems like Cupcake was a witness to the murder, then when Cartman came in, that made him the 2nd witness and possibly bonded and calmed her down, which is why she's friendly with him during the investigation. I think the knife was laying somewhere, he took it and cut Star's throat, washed it and then put it in the drawer because he couldn't actually reach the rack.
As for who actually did it, I'm leaning towards Morty. I've never actually seen Ricky and Morty, but he seems like the type to crack very easily under pressure if he lets it get to him, and the fact that his hostage wasn't you know... Rick, I feel like that portal gun was very important and he needs to have it back. (If I'm wrong about this, please feel free to correct me, as I said, never seen Rick and Morty.)
I've seen people saying it might be Mable due to Dipper being left alone when he was knocked out, but my main thing with is why would she leave him alive then, only to possibly let him get executed if she gets away with the crime? I'm not saying it can't be her, but that question is the main reason why I think it isn't, I'm welcome to be proven wrong though, civilly of course.
Most likely gonna keep coming back to this to see other theories while waiting for the Trial, can't wait! Great job and keep it up, one of the best Fangans I've seen :]
I think the string was what was used too, or at the very least it's involved heavily with the case. It's tainted with black smudges, which were also found on the crime scene.
Also, I have not yet seen Rick and Morty (and I don’t think I will in the near future) but does the portal gun in the show make a bright beam of light?
I dont know if I agree with Morty as the killer, but your theory itself that the string is the murder weapon is really good.
@@pink_sky_morning4842 I see I see...you say the portal gun is what made the bright light that gaz saw...but how would Morty or anyone get the portal gun if it was a hostage? Not saying it's a bad theory I really like it however it's a bit confusing and complicated.
Ooh, that makes sense. I hadn't noticed that, and I could easily see Cartman tampering with the crime scene. Maybe what happened was that after she died she was stuffed into the cupboard before being pulled out. There is however two things I don't get. One, how did Cartman avoid getting blood all over himself while nonetheless leaving a trail? I remember it being mentioned by Dipper that there both seemed to be a disproportionate amount of blood, and the blood trail didn't seem to be leading into the kitchen. Two, how did Cartman get the knife in the first place?
As for Morty I've had my eye on him from the start as he's tall enough to do the deed, no stranger to killing, and in accordance with multiversal theory would know that if he doesn't kill first someone else will, and there's good odds at least one version of him will make it out (though I would prefer the rug being pulled out from under him with Monokuma telling him that multiversal rules have been suspended). Now that we know more of the crime he'd be the one most familiar with portals, and therefore be the most likely to figure that the scissors still work within the scope of the school, and I bet he's tech savvy enough to hack the monokaller.
Wait a minute... the trail of blood can be rationalized as Star having injured Morty who then patched himself up discretely. The hoody was likewise resewn and dyed black after the fact to cover for any cuts. How the knife got into Cartman's hands is still a bit vague, but I could see at least that it could be that Star originally used the knife to harm Morty instead of her scissors.
Once again, you and your team knocked it out of the park. I’ve been following your messages and teasers, talking about how hard this was to put together and get out, but you guys did it! And it was more than worth the wait!
The way you balanced the funny and dark tones were brilliant, everyone was in character, artwork was beautiful, this mystery is making my head spin, and your original touches were the piece de resistance or however you spell it!
I can’t wait until I turn 55 to see the class trial!
Your 54 and a half right?
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2:22:02
~~~TIMELINE OF EVENTS~~~
8pm - Second motive is announced, everyone arrives at the gym
8:10pm or so - Dipper gets knocked out, and Morty, Ed, Mabel bring him to the nurse's office; Jenny, Blossom, Bubbles go with monokuma to the basement to get their powers nerfed
9:10pm or so - Power draining process begins in the basement, Blossom & Bubbles are knocked unconcious, Jenny remains awake
11pm or so - The period in which Gaz likely saw the flashing lights begins (explained later)
11:50pm - Cartman and Kyle leave their rooms and have an argument in the hallway, with Cartman saying he was going to the kitchen for a midnight snack; Star recieves a message on her monokaller telling her to come to the cafeteria ASAP because "we finished early and want to discuss a new plan", she responds saying she will be "right down" implying she was in her room upstairs
(Cartman cannot lie, he genuinely was planning on going to the kitchen here)
(Star must have used her scissors to leave her room, since otherwise she would have run into Kyle and Cartman in the hallway, meaning they DO infact work within the confines of the school)
(This implies that either the power removal process actually ended here rather than later, or that whoever messaged Star was purpousefully immitating either Bubbles, Blossom, or Jenny with their stolen monokaller)
11:55pm or so - Cartman goes to the kitchen to get his snack; Kyle waits in the hallway until he gets back
12am - Deadline for the first motive passes
12:10am - Cartman returns to the hallway, and him and Kyle (presumably) go back to their rooms
12:20am - Dipper wakes up in the nurse's office and hears footsteps outside, catching a glimpse of someone at the end of the hall outside the dressing room running down the hallway toward the gym/stairways; the period in which Gaz likely saw the flashing lights ends here; it is unlikely anyone was able to tamper with the crime scene past this time (explained below)
(This implies the killer was stopping to drop off their mask in the dressing room before heading either upstairs or downstairs, and did not have Star's scissors on them at this time. Confirming that they did not return to the kitchen after this point to put the scissors back or tamper or else cupcake would have recognized their uncovered face)
Before 6:30am - Ed wakes up and goes to Eddy's room so he can read him a "wake up story"
6:30am or so - Bubbles, Blossom, Jenny (supposedly) finish having their powers removed and are let out of the basement; Bubbles goes straight to the kitchen, where she triggers the BDA
(It is unknown where Jenny & Blossom went in this small time window)
Shortly after 6:30 am - Bubbles goes to grab Blossom and anyone else she could find to bring them to the kitchen; Dipper wakes up again and darts to the kitchen, beating Bubbles and the others there
Presumably around 7-7:30am - Dipper, Mabel, Dib wake up Gaz, who says she has not yet gotten her "8 straight hours" of sleep due to being woken up by 2 flashing lights the previous night (the first facing the door to her room towards the hallway, the second facing the right of her bed, towards Blossom's room)
(This likely implies that Gaz saw the flashing lights sometime after 11-11:30pm)
(If we assume the flashing lights were from portals made by Star's scissors, we can conclude that Gaz saw these flashes in the time frame of 11pm to 12:20am, since this is the last possible time Star, her killer, or Cartman could have used her scissors, since they were found on her body the next morning and Dipper saw who we can only deduce is the killer [Cartman was back upstairs by 12:10], moving about the hallways rather than teleporting at 12:20, which is also the deadline for tampering with the body as discussed prior)
Well the scissors likly allow you to go through walls now, star would have ran from her room, to the next few rooms to leave down the steps explaining why the south park kids didn't see her...
Honestly, if jenny is being framed, it's....looking like mable...
My guess the reason Dib could open the MonoKaller is because it doesn’t require a fingerprint, likely because the owner doesn’t have any. Jenny, maybe the two South Park kids because of their gloves?
I’d like to add that Star hadn’t been seen since Dipper passed out. Considering time of death was excluded from the Monokuma File, I’d leave open the possibility that Star died almost immediately after the gym incident. This could also explain why Monokuma seemed to be absent for an hour after the superheroes were taken to the basement. The culprit was likely confirming the details of their plan with him. I think what happened was Star was killed, that was when the culprit realized she didn’t have her Monokaller. They hid her body I believe in the cabinet. The mask and spray painted sweater were used to catch blood. I suspect the real murder weapon was a needle from Mabel’s lab, stabbed into her artery. The needle was sewn into the inside of the mask, so when then mask was put on her, it would be put in her neck. The mask would block the blood from getting on her hands. The rest of the wound would be caused after her death with the knife in the kitchen. When it became time to reveal the body in the kitchen, the culprit used the scissors to enter Stars room, and afterwards they went though Gaz’s room to create the illusion of Star moving. When they were setting up the body however they were forced to hide, because Cartman came down to get a snack. They quickly cleaned the knife, and threw it into the drawer, and hid using the sweater and I presume a wig from the storage room. Once Cartman left they used the leftover bottle of Monosauce to simulate the blood trail. And they started to return the equipment they used. They returned the ski mask and wig to the storage room. I suspect the Heather wig was used because I think Cupcake took a bite out of it, so the culprit was forced to shorten its length using the scissors in the storage room. Afterwards, they simply kept Stars Monokaller unlocked to return it to her room. Inevitability to create the illusion it couldn’t have been planted.
@@connorschultz380 honestly having a hard time thinking it’s Mabel… just because of motive. I think she could reasonably do it. It’s just the factor of why… and I hope it’s not a stupid reason like Marco is cute. Tbh I’d expect that reason from a rushed writer expected to meet a deadline instead of a passionate fan project. Also in line with a passionate fan project, I expect Mabel to value at least Star’s life over Waddles due to being her friend.
Part of me thinks it could be a sacrifice and Cartman tampered the scene tho. Like a 1-2 case but a better motive lol.
@@maddiemcnugget1076 i just can't see a strong contender like cartmen dying so early
Notes: The stain on Star's bottom and in the cabinet. If you remember, there was a black sweater, which was most likely colored black using the spray can. I believe Star may have wore the sweater, because the paint might have rubbed onto the cabinet and outfit. As the paint was black. This is where the question begins, why did Star (May have, or not) wore the sweater?
Thank you Zim for carrying the investigation.
You know what I like about this crossover is how hard it is to accuse someone mainly because you don't want to see them die etc. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE TRIALS I BET IT'S GOING TO BE NEXT YEAR I CAN'T WAIT
I’m 99% sure it’s mable now ignoring the fact it would be a major character motivation for dipper which would be the main reasoning to a character standpoint I see her character interacting with stars room with evidence and then compare her to everywhere else and I just sense and feel the panic and distress she puts off like really not many people seem to see it but she didn’t seem nearly as distressed upon seeing the body than when they entered stars room that’s a bit sus right? Unless she say saw and even “created” the body before hand? If you get what I’m saying so yah I do truly believe it’s mable
Look at 1:52:03
Look how nervous she is to enter the room. Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s her. She was acting really strange while searching fkr clues and pointing quickly to them and making theories about them and probably planted false evidence to throw them off. She has a headband that makes me think that she can hide the bite wound from plain sight. If Jenny did this , she would easily have a dent in her head and probably noticed by someone
@@jnstudios763 that and also Waddles the pig is one of the hostages that could possibly die in the motive. and we all know how much she loves that tiny oinking fucker, so that's enough of a reason there.
She could be abnormal as she’s entering the person she literally saw dead earlier’s room. She might see it as disrespectful.
Also, the fact that the killer apparently refused to target Dipper despite having the perfect opportunity to do so...
Also, did the announcement go off when Cupcake, Bubbles and Cartman saw the body? Wait, I think it’s possible that Cartman witnessed Mabel kill Star. She has a motive too, considering Wabbles or whatever the piggy’s name was very precious to her.
Honestly, it might still be possible that star had planned to murder, since anyone can access Jenny's monokaller, and the scissors were still with star's body, so there's a chance the killer might've killed in self defense
1:01:38 Ok, now I'm wondering if that hair is from the sweater and Cupcake attacked the culprit, wearing a sweater and mask to try to hide their identity. The sweater could have been dyed black beforehand or maybe Cupcake stained it and they had to dye it all black as a result to try to make it look leas suspicious. And Star's stained back and the stain inside the cabinets could be a result of Cupcake's saliva or the black dye (maybe the killer was hiding inside the cabinets and if the killer grabbed Star to move her body, it could have stain her too)
Also, "Dying with the stars" is SUCH a great idea lol. And I knew she didn't remember Marco!
I’m thinking Mabel did this.
Anyone notice how jumpy she was to make theories and insisting to stay in the kitchen to search for more clues instead of leaving somewhere else. She was very suspicious of dib joining the team to help them investigate. She looked really scared to enter her lab and star’s room to investigate. She also made some silly suggestions to probably throw them off. She knows the secret code as well and knows all things sweater like and probably used yawn to tie star up while unconscious. This explains why she couldn’t cover her throat to stop the bleeding. Jenny does sound suspicious but if cupcake attacked the culprit wouldn’t she have a small dent in her head. Besides a bit of blood in the mask. Mabel wears a headband making me think that she can easily hid the bite wound from plain sight. She probably also knew about Jenny’s Trust to get star to meet at the kitchen to her advantage.
But the burning I’m really having is why she chose star to be her target
Was star going to do something to dipper that made her take action?
Did Mabel think star was the mastermind?
It’s really tricky to figure that out,
I thought Jenny did it but this sounds more like it. The message was sent from Jenny's monokaller which probably doesn't need fingerprints to unlock since she doesn't have them. I think the long sweater was probably used to gag cupcake and that's why it was dyed black that's why it seems to dislike all girls.
I think she'd target Star because she didn't have a companion from her series and didn't remember Marco so Mabel tought she didn't have a motive.
Would also explain why she didn't go for Dipper / the easy kill.
The trick probably has to do with the time of death, Star likely was hidden somewhere until midnight when it was time to reveal the murder.
What if Star was planning to murder Dipper and Mabel found out, murdering her first? ;P
What i like about this theory is that for any other killer it would had make sense to target Dipper, as he was uncontius and defenseless, but Mabel -assuming is the main suspect - would kill anyone but him. I think got it bro.
Honestly I’ve been having a hard time thinking of Mabel as the killer but you do bring up a good point that Star could be trying to kill dipper first. But now the question is… why would star want to kill? She says Marco is just a “boy that looks familiar”. So she was memory wiped at some point.
Does Star have a strong sense of justice that she cares about the hostages even though she doesn’t personally know them? I don’t really see that with season 1-2 star. She’s still growing up.
Did she suddenly remember Marco? Maybe. But does that motivate her to kill?
Okay, time to try and analyze the evidence.
1) Clean Hands/Slashed Throat- My first thought was that for an unknown reason the killer had cleaned hands, but the tied up angle seems more likely thanks to the string that Dib found at the end. However, given the supposedly tight time frame we seem to have, when did she get tied up and how did she get tied up? There are no injuries or "Harmful" chemicals on her. Mind you, there could be some leeway in the Monokuma File, as a chemical that puts her to sleep might not be considered harmful. More on that later.
2) Dimensional Scissors- I suspect this was not the murder weapon, but instead the method of transport for Star. We know she had been trying to get them to work, and it's entirely possible that she discovered that it could work if she tried to use them to get to an area within the school that isn't restricted until later in the game. It could explain why Star left her Monokaller in her bedroom, and it might be an explanation for the flashing light in Gaz's room.
3) Empty Cabinet/Black Smudges- The only thing I've seen that can produce a black smudge is Cupcake. Perhaps Cupcake was in the cupboard for some reason, and the dimensional scissors took Star into the cupboard and on top of her and it caused a mess? Or maybe Star landed on top of her in the kitchen in general, either through the dimensional scissors or perhaps in some sort of struggle with the killer, and then she crawled into the cupboard to hide from somebody chasing after her before being pulled out and killed. That means the smudge in the cupboard came from the dress and not the other way around, if true. Alternate hypothesis: the black smudge is a mechanical lubricant such as oil, which could potentially implicate Jenny, but there wasn't any indication that Jenny leaks or even contains such lubricants or had any kind of damage that could have caused her to leak said lubricants. Given that she can't feel pain, it's possible she could have such an injury and not even know it unless she noticed the smudges in the dark. I'm unfamiliar with the source material, so I don't know if she has dark vision capabilities, or if she has some sort of warning system instead of pain to pinpoint damage. She was part of the depowering ritual, which Bubbles said was all night long, but she wasn't asleep like the PPG, so it's possible the event was over much sooner and she was able to leave while the other two slept.
4) Bloody Mess- I'm not entirely sure what to make of this. Was she tied up and dragged to this spot after being slashed? If so, and she hid in the cupboard of her own accord, that would mean she likely didn't die immediately after exiting the cupboard. I don't think she was dead when she was in the cupboard, because I've seen no evidence to suggest something staunched the flow of blood while she was in there, and there's no blood inside. Mind you, if she teleported into the cupboard and then moved outside to meet the mystery person, that would fit.
5) Kitchen Knife- Seems likely to be the murder weapon, though why it was left in the drawer instead of put back on the rack is a mystery to me. Was there a reason they couldn't do that? Too short? But a short person could climb on the counter.
6) Cupcake- The first body witness (assuming the killer doesn't count unless they showed up after the murder was complete). Has an unusual reaction to Charlotte and Mabel, hissing at them, even though previously she was sweet to at least one of the two. Of note, Cartman is not treated that way, she absolutely adores him. Given that she can't tell who a person is unless she sees their face or maybe just generally good details, I predict that a female student did something to anger her. If Star landed on top of her at some point, that could easily do it, I think. Alternately, it could imply that the killer is female, but she couldn't get a good enough look at them and ends up hostile to all females because she sees them all as potentially the killer.
7) Small Hairball- It's not necessarily hair, despite it's name. I could be part of clothing, perhaps the disguise used, especially if we assume the killer used the ski mask which would block out any access to hair on their head. The most likely candidates then would be the sweater or the ski mask, which will be discussed in their entries. Personally, I think the latter more likely.
8) The Gym Scene- I don't know. Maybe if I rewatched the episode with that scene in it, I'd be able to come up with something, but I don't wanna do that right now for time reasons (already spending so much just on this)
9) Hostages- It's hard to say for sure. It gives a lot of people motives. Random thing I noticed: Rick's Portal Gun could cause flashing lights in Gaz's room, too, though I don't know how it could have been retrieved from its position as a hostage, so it's likely just a weird coincidence. Given my interpretation of other evidence, I think the murder was before midnight, so it's likely that either the killer had a motive here, or they were trying to frame somebody who did. I'm leaning towards the former, but far from sure.
10) Kyle's Account- This is insanely important. He argued with Cartman at 11:50, the same time that Star received the text to go to the cafeteria, and Kyle remained there until Cartman came back at 12:10. This supports the idea that Star used the dimensional scissors to teleport to her destination. If Star used the stairs to go down, Kyle would have seen her, unless she delayed leaving until after 12:10, a full 20 minutes after the text where she said she'd be right down, which I think unlikely (though not impossible since she was told to not be seen). Cartman supposedly went down to the kitchen to fix himself a snack. I predict that Cartman is our missing body witness #2, and not the killer, since we have nobody else claiming to have seen the body before Bubbles found her and I'm assuming I didn't misunderstand and that Bubbles was alone when she found Star's corpse. He walked into the kitchen likely around midnight, give or take a couple of minutes and found her body. It's possible he pulled a Byakuya and messed with the crime scene (dragging the body to the counter, washing the knife, maybe even her hands). His reaction of finding the body later is to laugh and say "it's really her", which implies he already knew about the body and so it's possible he couldn't tell who it was in the darkness the previous night. If true, the murder had to be done really quickly for the killer to not be seen by Cartman, unless he couldn't see the killer in the darkness or chose to cover for them. Given that Cartman had returned to Kyle by 12:10, that means he can't be the mystery figure that Dipper saw at 12:20, so if we assume that was the killer, Cartman can't be the killer. There is the possibility that Cartman saw nothing and the murder happened after 12:10, which admittedly could work with the shadowy figure that Dipper saw, but that leaves us with the missing second body witness again. Maybe the killer had to hide because of Cartman's arrival and couldn't escape until after he left.
11) Gaz's Account- I've already discussed this a couple times prior. I'd guess its Star's dimensional scissors, but there's a long shot chance on it being Rick's portal gun. The timing is obviously important, which is of course why we don't know the timing. Was it early when Star was experimenting with the scissors to try and get them to work, perhaps even the first time she got them to work properly? Was it around the same time as the killing and it may have been Star trying to escape her killer, which would mean that if Gaz hadn't been such a little shit, she could have seen who did it (or maybe gotten killed too for being a witness I guess)? Was it afterwards as an attempt for the killer to escape, which would require somebody other than Star to be able to use it? If the killer did use it, that could help explain how they got away without Cartman seeing them.
12) Ski Mask- Likely worn by the killer, though a small chance it was on Star I suppose, but I think unlikely. The blood in it is obviously the big clue. My best guess is that Cupcake attacked the killer by biting their head, drawing some blood and swallowing some of the fabric that would later become the hairball. If true, that means the killer needs to be able to bleed, which would clear Jenny, or so I would assume. It might also clear Vendetta and Charlotte, as I don't know if those two can bleed, or even what they heck they are. Unless Star was wearing it, I don't see it as being likely to have come from her because it's on the inside of it, but I would have expected a bunch of blood on the lower portion that comes down to her neck. A long shot is that Cartman wore it if he tampered with the scene after the fact, but I dunno.
13) Black Sweater- Likely used by the killer as part of the disguise, and is a second possible source for the hairball. It's interesting that it (along with the mystery Monokaller) were in Mabel's laboratory. Is she the guilty party? Female for Cupcake to be angry, important evidence hidden in her lab...it feels too easy as a frame job, but definitely possible. I can't remember if there was any restrictions on who could or could not enter her lab. Mind you, if the dimensional scissors were used by the killer to get around after the murder, it's possible to get into even the locked rooms.
14) Monosauce- Weird inclusion. Simplest and most mundane explanation is that Cartman got it for his midnight snack and left it out like the slob he is. However, given that Dib says it's one of those experimental items with a potentially weird effect, it could have been capable of rendering Star unconscious, which would allow for her to get tied up without resistance with the string. Alternately, if she's unconscious, she could just have been killed and not woken up before it was too late, which would leave the string as a mystery.
15) Power Draining- Gives Bubbles and Blossom mostly solid alibis, and Jenny a moderate alibi. B&B were asleep all through the night because of Monokuma, but Jenny was awake the whole time and made no mention of how long she was stuck there. I think it was implied that they were all released at the same time though (Bubbles referring to them going to their rooms, though not saying explicitly who they were). Given the blood in the ski mask, I suspect that Jenny is going to be a mid trial red herring, but I'm far from certain. Of note, the fact that the three most powerful characters were supposedly indisposed all night may have given an opportunist the confidence they'd be able to get a murder done without their interference.
16) Star's Monokaller- already discussed, it's one of a few reasons I think Star got the scissors working.
17) Mystery Monokaller- First thought was that Dib has executive access as the headmaster's son, but if anybody can open it...well, this may be the most damning evidence for me against Jenny. I doubt Jenny has fingerprints as a robot, so her Monokaller would need to be accessible without fingerprints. On the other hand, it could be the equivalent of a burner phone that anybody could use, which could be why the features are so limited maybe? This evidence single handedly prevents me from ruling Jenny out as the killer. There may be some other characters that don't have fingerprints, though. Would Zim as an alien have them? Would Charlotte or Vendetta as whatever the hell they are? Would characters with nubs for hands like the PPG have fingerprint? Cartoon characters can have weird properties. Other than that, the whole "we came up with a plan" is interesting. Who is "we"? That implies more than one? Is it purely fabrication to get her there? Is the owner of this somebody who is more likely to have developed plans and is somebody Star would trust enough to go see at night? Is this Monokaller even from the killer? It could be a tragic coincidence, or stolen property.
18) Storage Room- the source of the ski mask. There's tools, there's glue that was brought to our attention as open but barely used which may have relevance, there's the wigs that could be part of the disguise and a third potential source for the hairball. I don't know how this is likely to come into play.
19) Long Piece of String- Could have been used to tie up Star, preventing her from clutching her throat. Other than that, I don't know what it could be for.
So...let's try to split the suspects up.
Least likely to be killer:
Dipper- Stuck in the infirmary with injuries, protagonist unlikely to be the killer
Bubbles and Blossom- Put to sleep by Monokuma all night long to depower them.
Kyle- He was at the top of the stairs pretty much the entire time frame for Star's murder, unless it happened after 12:10, which I kind of doubt.
Star- While it may be possible she had nefarious plans of her own that backfired, I can't see her killing herself outside of a tragic accident, and slashing your throat like that doesn't seem like a suicide to me.
Unlikely:
Cartman- Obvious red herring and likely the first person accused in the trial, I would be shocked if he was the killer, but he does have opportunity during the time frame. Apparently can't lie for some reason lately, and most likely the 2nd body witness. May have tampered after the murder or even seen the killer and doesn't want to be interrogated so he doesn't have to reveal this info before he wants to, perhaps to keep things more interesting? Or maybe he just thinks that if he admits to being at the kitchen last night, he thinks nobody will believe he didn't kill her. Also, given that Cupcake actually likes him, I suspect he didn't kill anybody.
Dib- Given my prediction of a female killer thanks to Cupcake, he automatically falls a bit in likelihood. He seems too genuine during the investigation for me, though it's not impossible. If the string is important in any way, and it probably is because it's a truth button, I say there's little chance he is guilty because he could have just said he found nothing.
Ed - Male, and it just doesn't feel right. He's not smart enough to lure anybody to kill them, and probably not smart enough to disguise himself, either. Not that a disguise would help much, he's very distinctive. Has the Edd hostage motive, I guess. Only way he killed is if Eddy was the mastermind behind the murder.
Charlotte- Is really dumb, so probably couldn't trick Star and probably wouldn't think to disguise herself. Can she bleed? Female brings her up a little, but not much. So dumb that she's unaware that Star is dead, or just playing dumb? Or so dumb she could have killed her and not realized it? That's really the only way I can see her killing Star, and that seems so unlikely to me.
Maybe?:
Morty- Sort of a motive from hostages with the portal gun, but sort of not because it's not a person and only sort of implies they might have gotten to Rick, and so could work for both those who care about the hostages or those who don't. The idea that the portal gun could have done the flashes in Gaz's room won't stop bothering me. He is male, which goes against my Cupcake hypothesis, but part of that hypothesis did allow for the possibility of Star causing her aversion to female characters, so who knows? I almost put him as unlikely.
Eddy- One of the more unscrupulous characters, has a motive in Edd, potentially smart enough to con somebody into going to their own murder scene. Still, it goes against the female prediction I had, but same counter as with Morty.
Gaz- Being female puts her up a little, and she could be leaving something out of flashing light evidence...but if she were the killer and the flashing lights were important, why would she mention it at all? She's certainly one of the colder characters. Certainly smart enough to trick Star into entering the kitchen, and maybe smart enough to modify the mystery Monokaller? I think it's a stretch, but I can't say it's impossible.
More Likely?:
Jenny- I hate putting her here. She likely doesn't have finger prints, so the mystery Monokaller could be hers. As a robot she might not need the standard type of display like the others, maybe she can link to it somehow. She wasn't asleep like Bubbles and Blossom were, so her alibi may or may not be valid. Definitely has somebody she cares about in the hostages. Star definitely trusts her enough to meet her alone in the kitchen right before the murder deadline, and as part of the hero squad, it's believable for her to say "we" came up with another plan. Being female fits the Cupcake theory. Strong enough to overpower Star and get her tied up without outright disabling her ahead of time. Could have had Monokuma tamper with her in some way during the depowering that made her kill somebody. The only thing that I have to go against this is the blood in the ski mask, but that could have come from Star somehow, or even been worn by somebody other than the killer. It feels way too obvious a case against her. Either she did it, or she's going to be one they try to frame after Cartman gets cleared. On a pure character read, she was super sad about the entire thing, but that could have been guilt over being forced to kill her to save the hostages.
Vendetta- Vendetta is female, which fits the Cupcake theory. She's definitely one of the more evil characters. There's a hostage to give her a motive, too. Can she bleed? I don't know.
Mabel- Female, definitely bleeds so could leave blood in the ski mask, has a hostage motive, the sweater and mystery monokaller were in her laboratory. Best things I can say in her defense? She helped with the investigation and it feels like the evidence was planted in her room to frame her. I hate putting her here, too.
So....I don't like the conclusions I'm coming to here. My number one choice is Mabel as the killer, followed closely by Jenny, with Vendetta as a not exactly close third.
I predict my predictions are about as accurate as my old predictions on who would survive to the end. I predicted Star would be a survivor, so that should tell you that should tell you all you need to know about how much to trust my abilities here.
Update: another option for the black smudges is the black paint presumably used to make the sweater black.
Concerning Evidence 3: The Black Smudges
I really think it’s Jenny because if I remember correctly, when Dipper did a FTA with her he gave Jenny some oil. So it is a possibility, though Cupcake making those stains is a possibility too, and the black spray paint.
Theory on knife.
Maybe the culprit in a panic rush to clean up the crime scene put the knife in the drawer. Sorta like a brain fart.
THAT WAS SO GOOD!! Also everyone who worked on this amazing project, YOU ARE ALL AWESOME!! keep up the amazing work guys!
what if someone stole Jennys MonoKaller, one that wouldn't require finger detection for obvious reasons, and used it to lure Star?
If u think about it further, the mask and black sweater couldn’t be Jenny’s doing because if she sent the message then there would be no reason for her to even try to disguise herself since star would know she’s coming
@@BlahBlah-bb6rl in fact, Jenny has a pretty solid alibi. So my guess its that someone stole her Monokaller
I’d argue Jenny’s alibi is less solid than you think. She was awake the whole time by her own admission, while Bubbles and Blossom were asleep. If she were going to commit a murder, she could have simply told Monokuma, left to do the killing, and returned before Bubbles and Blossom woke up. I don’t think that happened exactly, but it’s entirely possible.
@@aidancurry218 Well if you follow up with the unknown monokaller and try to open up random student rooms just to find the murderer
@@aidancurry218 if she was the killer would she really admit that she was awake during the time? Wouldn’t it be safer for her to say she was on sleep mode?
This was absolutely amazing. A top tier fangan to enjoy especially with it being easy to get into with all the character crossovers. So excited to see how the trial turns out!
Kelly probably had way too much fun with that self-interview segment. Gods know I would.
I had a blast!!!!!! 😊😊😊
I love that the investigation music has the theme song for stars show, as well as dippers. Its a nice touch, I hope the other victims show themes get layered into the ivestigation song
But i notice something worriesome about the investigation theme, in the corner of the screen we can see that the song is called
"Investigation theme (dipper version)"
2:16:41 i love how cartman looks in his pree class trial Portrait. Looks badass.
1:25:00 “You’d have to be an idiot to think just a wig is a good enough disguise!”
Yeah I agree, you gotta get those contact lenses too.
(Actually considering Zim’s disguise is legitimately fooling everyone except Dib and Gaz, that might be an actual viable strategy)
Although speaking of the wigs, who’s that one between Turner and Mandy, below Johnny Bravo? I recognize those three, Pepper and Marge of course, I just can’t place that fifth one.
Also, unrelated but Star and Marco mentioned how they were “late entries”. Is this a reference to the fact that Star Vs is the most recent franchise in CiDr?
thats heather from total drama island
@@jacobcooper4372 Oh, ok. Thanks!
I just wanna say that this fangan is REALLY well made and I'm so flipping excited for the trial. Definitely my favorite fangan I've seen keep up the awesome work :DDD
This was really great, Cheesy! I love this fangan so much right now, and I can’t wait to see the Class Trial. You guys worked so hard on it, and did an amazing job! Keep up the good work, but also take your time as well because great videos like this needs time (and you guys need breaks as well).
See, I would’ve quickly checked if Star’s Monokaller could also be unlocked via button instead of fingerprint where whoever lured her into the kitchen’s name would’ve been displayed in case the texts were also accessible.
I think it’s an easy bet that the one in Mabel’s of all rooms was accessible via button for the same reason Star’s door was temporarily unlocked- to expose potential evidence that Monokuma didn’t feel the need to explain.
Whenever anyone else has already pointed this out or at least something along those lines or not, these are my only two cents on what I could say in case it hasn’t already been covered in the comments.
Unfortunately cliff hangers have to be a thing to promote the only higher tier emotion than happiness IMO- that being hype.
Yeah, I also wondered why nobody did that!
Even if it failed, checking stars monocaller would've been one of the first things I'd try and do to get more evidence...
Good thinking, but I guess we'll have to wait until the class trial to figure it out...
Yeah I was thinking they would’ve tried to open her MonoKaller to see if it could be accessed. And to see if they can see who contacted her.
Outstanding Work! The one of the last few evidences, the hairball has black hair in it like Mabel said.
Dib, Zim and Eddy have black hair (I’m not counting Ed because he has ginger hair as shown in one of the EEnE S1 episodes) so the killer could be either one of them. I don’t think Cartman is the culprit but he may be heavily involved plus his hair is brown.
And now we’re getting to the point of the trial in the next video, I can’t wait to see what the trial room would look like.
But Cupcake's stomach could turn the hair black
Look at 1:52:03
Look how nervous Mabel is to enter stars room even Monokuma said it was a good idea to search for clues. Mabel looked really scared like dipper might find something for evidence.
One thing I can't help but notice is the name of the investigation music mentions that it's 'Dipper's Version'...
Either that's just because it's a remix of the original song made to fit Dipper, or Dipper's not going to be the only one heading investigations/class trials.
A bit late but it’d be really cool if Mabel turned out to be the blackened and Dipper also dies trying to save her from her execution
@@NatTheNoodler I don’t think dippers gonna die, but he’s definitley gonna become traumatized, and in no emotional condition to do anything. Think Taka from the first danganrompa
Since Cupcake counts towards the body recovery announcement that makes her the 17th student
Completely unrelated but the remix of Monokuma's theme for this series goes hard I'm obsessed with it
I wish it was louder. I had a hard time hearing it.
If Vendetta isn't the killer, Dipper should hang out with her during the next free time event; she's been a big help during this investigation!
I really REALLY hope this project continues!! I never thought so many nostalgic characters could interact like this!! Good job!!
I really don't want blossom or Mable to die 😂 but it is what it is.
Theory:
My guess is that the killer is actually bubbles. It's strange that she could talk to the fiend, I kinda suspect she's lying 🤥. Also, the flashes outside GAZ room could be form her fast flying, as if she was trying to hide evidence or get an alibi. I wouldn't put it past her to buckle under pressure and go through with it. I don't want her to die but I can only guess!!!
The amount of work an passion in this project is absolutely admirable. Looking forward to the class trial, which considering the kind of stuff that’s in class trials, we probably won’t see for a year or more.
I have that overtime as more ppl join 'dying with the stars' the more chaotic or foreshadow-y it will be
This already getting exciting,I can’t wait so more of this series,keep up the great cheesy.
OK, I definitely take back the whole “Mabel is the killer for sure” attitude- looking back over the evidence, I had too much tunnel vision, and I definitely missed a certain someone who’s got a lot of explaining to do…
But before that, I think I can safely rule out a couple of potential killers.
Cartman is almost certainly not the killer, and I think Cupcake proves this. It would make sense to me that if Cupcake couldn’t recognize a masked murderer, she’d be apprehensive of everyone. But if she’s okay with Cartman, this could mean that she has a very good reason to believe he isn’t the murderer. She may have even seen both the killer and Cartman at the same time- we never did get any information out of Cartman, and him actually seeing the (disguised) killer sounds like a big enough bombshell to save for the trial.
Jenny is also extremely unlikely- despite her genuine friendship with Star and her being detained by Monokuma all night, I see a lot of suspicion thrown her way. I’m almost certain she didn’t kill Star, because of the presence of the hairball.
…I don’t know what to tell you, Jenny’s hair is just paint and steel. And for anyone arguing that the hair came from Star, the fact that her hair isn’t any different- no black from the saliva, specifically- pretty much means it wasn’t her’s. The killer wouldn’t have cut Star’s hair to hide evidence, and that evidence loses all meaning if it can’t narrow down who the killer is. And from what we can gleam, it wouldn’t be Star’s, and it can’t be Jenny’s.
Bubbles triggered the Body Discovery Announcement, which means she can’t be the killer. Granted, I’m admittedly taking her word for it, which I probably shouldn’t do (especially considering how incredibly suspicious I am of somebody else’s word), but aside from her very genuine reactions, I think Jenny would’ve noticed if Bubbles had somehow gone missing at some point during the night. Since Jenny is very likely not the killer (and if she was it would mean Bubbles wasn’t the killer), I think we can rule out Bubbles entirely. Blossom too by similar logic.
Star didn’t kill herself. This is too complicated for that to be even remotely true.
I think that’s as far as I can narrow down for now. 5 students out of 16, Star, Blossom, Bubbles, Jenny, and Cartman are almost certainly not the killer.
But for those who arise my suspicion…
What, exactly, was Kyle doing out of bed at 11:50? He claims he caught Cartman sneaking out, but how? He doesn’t share a room with Cartman, how is he monitoring his movements? Could it be possible that Kyle was just roaming around in the hall and happened to see Cartman leaving his room?
Did Kyle go back to his room at 12:10?
Remember that scene in the gym? We may not have seen everyone’s EXACT locations, but we at least got to see everyone in that scene, everyone had at least one line. Everyone except Kyle. Granted, we know he was in the gym with everyone else because of the icons, we just never saw him.
And that hairball from earlier? Bubbles said nobody’s hair looked any different, but keep in mind- Kyle wears a flapped hat. We haven’t actually seen his hair. It very well COULD look different, and we just never noticed.
While we’re on that subject, Dipper also wears a hat that covers a lot of his hair. We can’t count out the protagonist, not after V3. Admittedly I don’t have a ton of evidence that points to Dipper, but it COULD explain why it is that Dipper wasn’t targeted for murder.
And hey, you KNOW Dipper’s gonna be accused at some point during the trail. That’s practically a given.
In an earlier comment I dismissed Mabel’s theory that “Star was targeted for a reason”, but thinking about it now… she’s absolutely right. Star was sent a message to draw her specifically out. To what end?
I think it almost has to be for her magical abilities/scissors.
Nobody hated Star- not specifically, anyways. Cartman didn’t do it, and Vendetta and Zim both have other people they especially hate. If it was purely out of personal hate, we would’ve seen Charlotte or Dib as a bloodied corpse (or vice versa, Vendetta and Zim aren’t exactly known for having their schemes actually work). And outside of those three villains… everybody else either liked Star or was mildly annoyed with her.
So if it’s not personal, it has to be about her magic. Star wasn’t known for much else.
And actually… since Star made a portal with her scissors, I wonder if one Morty Smith would’ve been interested in getting his hands on those scissors? If he could somehow fix them, using his limited experience with Rick’s portal guns?
But if the magic and portals are the aim, why kill Star?
This case is tough. I can narrow down the suspects, and I can narrow in on a handful of potential killers. I can narrow down the how, but not the why, and I can’t link everything together just yet. I get the feeling that we CAN solve the case just with the information we have, but there’s still so much information we need to get from the trial- I especially wanna know what was going on with Monokuma for the hour he kept the girls waiting, it seems so relevant and yet so far away from when the murder theoretically would’ve happened…
Hey it can’t be Kyle because of one peace of evidence. The killers monokallet! Well yes it doesn’t tell us who’s it is, we can deduce it’s not Kyle’s or Gaz’s because they were in there rooms. if it was their monokaller then they couldn’t be in their room.
Absolutely love this!! Every aspect of this story has me hooked and I can't wait to see more!! And I love all the art and voice acting!
I especially love the music! Especially the song starting at 1:00:07 (although I'm biased bc Making Fiends is my favorite show of all time and I love the music in it... still a bop though, holy hell). I'd love if some more of the songs were uploaded separately!
Also, I love the little references to other cartoons. It's fun seeing all these little things I like interspersed throughout the background!
As for who did the killing, well, I'm stumped. I've never been the type for making theories or anything like that so I've genuinely got no clue lol. But I really don't believe it's Charlotte, Vendetta, Kyle, Cartman, or any of the superheroes (I've seen few people saying Jenny might have done it while skimming through comments, but I just can't get behind that). I've got my own reasons for each of these and I could easily be wrong but I feel kinda confident.
Anyway, love this and can't wait to see more!! I'm surprised how much I like this because I am generally uninterested in Danganronpa as a whole. Just goes to show how great this project is!! Keep up the wonderful work.
Babe wake up, There’s a new episode of Cartoons in Danganronpa
SPECULATION TIME: Okay so my four primary suspects right now are Jenny, Blossom, Mabel & Kyle
However Jenny & Blossom probably couldn't have done it as Monokuma was toning down their powers at the time of the murder AND well after the murder supposedly took place, BUT keep in mind; unlike Blossom & Bubbles, Jenny herself said she was fully awake during the procedure, there's nothing stopping Jenny from telling Monokuma she plans to commit a murder and Monokuma would be ecstatic and allow Jenny to go through with her plan, plus there'd be no real reason for Monokuma to tone down Jenny's abilities after committing a murder, however there'd be little to no reason for Jenny to use the Ski Mask AND Spray Painted Sweater if this IS the case. Kyle suspecting Cartman is understandable, but he seem's a little bit too quick to accuse Cartman which only makes Kyle seem suspicious in the process, not to mention the the hairball that Cupcake hurled up looked like a blackened wad of Kyle's hair, granted it could be anyone's hair, HOWEVER a part of me still believes Kyle to be innocent as I'm sure Kyle would HATE to have been proven a hypocrite and a murderer in Cartman's presence, effectively proving himself to be worse than Cartman. I've stated why I suspect Mable in the previous video, and it largely remains the same, but essentially it boils down to Mabel's absence while Dipper was in the Nurses Office, PERHAPS she wasn't allowed to stay with Dipper due to one of the night-time rules? But nothing has indicated this being the sole possibility, so I'm left suspecting where Mabel was.
One thing I think we can conclude is that the black smudge in the cabinet & on Star's back, is the black spray paint used on one of Mabel's Sweater's, whoever sprayed the Sweater likely didn't give it enough time to dry before using it, therefore still a bit wet and able to leave those black smudges.
The Dying with the Stars segment is giving me Total Drama Aftermath Episode vibes.
The part where Cartman ran off crying had me laughing way too hard, props to the voice actor.
I loved that it was Ed that points out and addresses Dipper being the smart one who is most likely to figure out who killed Star.
It breaks my heart that Charlotte doesn't yet understand that Star is dead, and no one seems to have the heart to explain it to her, god imagine what would happen if Vendetta were to be killed, how would that affect poor sweet Charlotte?
You Bastards! YOU BASTARDS!!! Need I say more?
Cheesy my man, you gotta upload some of that music, the investigation theme combined with the Gravity Falls theme is just incredible, as is the rest of the remixes you've made so far.
I don’t think the spray paint was ever used, implying Cupcake swallowed the sweater at some point, which might’ve also been where the hairball is from
I'm 100% positive that hairball is Cartmans hair. He has BROWN HAIR. yet when Kyle punched him after the murder....His hair is black. Doesn't explain cupcakes behavior. But it is an interesting bit of evidence.
Jenny could’ve used the ski mask and the sweater for when she met Star: remember that the rooms get dim at night (something like that cant be bothered to see) so she could’ve blended in. Plus the ski masks blood could have been from when her powers were being removed
@@mrartooo if Jenny is the killer who sent the message to star, what would be the point of wearing a mask if she knew who was coming
@@BlahBlah-bb6rl i suppose she couldve surprised her, like sayaka did leon (if i remember correctly)?
I'm gonna be honest, I do think mabel is gonna die at some point for dipper character development... But I just don't think she is the killer, It just seems too obvious- everyone's expecting it..
I'm conflicted for characters like Dib, Cartmen, and mabel- they seem like chapter 5-6 deaths in all honestly. The only fitting ways I see mabel going out is as a chpt 1 killer or chpt 5 victim/killer.
I don’t agree. The reason the Kaede thing happened in V3 is that Shuichi wasn’t sure of himself and his detective work. He was hesitant to find the truth because of a past experience. However, Dipper doesn’t need character development. He’s already already sure of himself and knows he has to face this killing game head on. Besides it’s too obvious. I’m thinking she’s going to be a survivor.
I agree. I feel like they would be suited to late-game deaths as they are too prominent to die before chapter 4 but it also doesn’t make much sense for them to survive in the end. At least, that’s what I think
I wanna say Mabel isn't the killer either but I think dib would be the support character so Mabel dieing anywhere else makes no sense and her surviving won't give dipper character development...I sadly see no other conclusion
i really feel like Mabel is a chapter 4 death, idk i'm just seeing it now because i doubt shes the killer in this 1st one
I don’t know about Vendetta she was too helpful in this case about the Fiend stuff.
As someone who is a fan of Danganronpa and a good majority of these shows, I am HYPED for the trial!
Also, I like the AU of Star and her talk show
Another great episode Cheesy and the team! I loved it! And the Monokuma Theatre replacement was really sweet. Can't wait to find out what happens next~
This is making me think more than I ever have since Gravity Falls' hidden messages.
The knife is obviously the murder weapon, considering that it was wet so the killer obviously cleaned off the blood. The fact that it was put in the utensils drawer and not the knife rack literally right above it makes me think that the killer was in a rush?? If the murder occurred around the same time the message to Star was sent, 11:50pm, then I could see why, because that's literally only 10 minutes to do your murdering within the time limit of the motive. I can't really think of any reason why Star's hands are clean, and I'm not sure how the string Dib found will come into play. If the killer was in a rush for the motive, then they probably wouldn't have cared enough to restrain Star's hands, and they wouldn't have planted the scissors there to make them seem like the murder weapon. (Unless they didn't care about the scissors and Star simply dropped them into that position?????) Not entirely sure about whether or not Star was dragged either. Dipper's feeling about something being wrong makes me think something else happened, like maybe Star fought with the killer??
There is also the mentioned possibility that the killer didn't care about the motive, which would explain why the murder happened so late, but I can't really think of anyone
What's interesting to note then is that Kyle and Cartman went downstairs around 11:50 as well, which presumably means that Cartman found the body if the murder had already finished by then. I don't think Cartman killed Star, especially since Kyle really thinks he did it and Cartman has his whole 'filter' thing from 'Le Petit Tourette' where he basically can't lie. It's been established that Cupcake was likely a witness to the murder, but it's noted that, during night time, the lights dim, and the killer was likely wearing the ski mask and black sweatshirt. That's probably why Cupcake trusts Cartman more than other people since she knows that he definitely didn't do it. The other person to find the body is Bubbles - so that's pretty much two people who are safe. Don't think it could've been Kyle either, since his initial reaction at the beginning to punch Cartman, who he thinks is the murderer, seems kinda genuine.
The light Gaz saw could've been the dimensional scissors?? Though it was previously established that they don't work for leading out of the school, maybe someone figured out that they do work when teleporting people within the school grounds. The fact that Star's MonoKaller is still in her room makes me think she was probably the one making that light. The text sent to Star was probably from someone she trusted - someone who apparently was making an escape plan - but tbh Star trusted pretty much everyone. Also, the fact that the killer didn't go for Dipper could imply that maybe they cared about Dipper more so than they did for Star?? Mabel's an obvious suspect for this, but it's Mabel, and I doubt that she'd ever go as far as to intentionally severely hurt somebody. She literally never even hurt Pacifica Northwest, even though they were kinda like rivals. Maybe it was someone Dipper spent time with???? Don't think it could be Vendetta either, it'd be too obvious
I genuinely have like no idea who it could've been. Maybe someone who didn't contribute much to the investigation, like Morty? But from what I've seen from him here and in Rick and Morty, he doesn't seem like the type to go to such extreme lengths, even if he was doing it for the motive (but then again, I haven't watched the show, maybe that equipment is super dangerous and worth saving more compared to people's lives?) It can't have been an accident since Star was intentionally lured there, so characters like Charlotte are unlikely, and I can't really see Jenny doing it either...
Oh, and something bigger is definitely going on, considering Star's whole memory wipe thing of Marco and the weird glitch going on with the elevator.
Man, I've spilled out all my thoughts and I still have like no clue who it is. Maybe Eddy?
I remember there was a few people that suspected Jenny, but Eddy does seem like the type to commit murder from what I’ve seen in these episodes. We never got an alibi from him, only banter between Ed and him.
@@pink_sky_morning4842 That's entirely why I just dumped my thoughts lol. Opened up the live chat and everyone's screaming that it's Mabel or Jenny but I really don't think it's either of them
As soon as I saw those wigs in storage I thought “Heather” for total drama for the black 1
i already think eddy is responsible. no clues, just a gut feeling. if it turns out to be mabel though, i will not be surprised.
nah its vendetta because well she seems to be pretty chill about this
also because there were black smudges
I also had a gut feeling it's eddy too, the only evidence that was bothering me was that ski mask with the orange blood mark on top. So Eddy is a huge suspect
Mabel was acting strange saying Star wouldn’t like to be a zombie. Even dib said it would be up her alley to be a zombie
It is obviously jenny
Well I’ll be patient for another 8 months
But all jokes aside great job for all of the people who worked on this
I have many things to say here.
Firstly i am surprised to see that star indeed did knew marco before hopes peak. Her memories of her school life in hopes peak was taken away by the mastermind. But when she saw marco again, she didn't seem to recognize him. So if she knew marco before going to hopes peak in this fangan's universe,how come she couldn't remember him?
Secondly i love that moment when kyle punched Cartman. Not only looking badass but also makes clear they will have a kaito and kokichi releatsionship and Kyle making sure cartman won't make more trouble for the group.
And the Post class trial potrais of everyone really looks well animated. Makes them all look badass and interesting someway. Can't wait for the class trial.
Let's look back at this (After Part 1 of the trial)
- Something kept Star from fighting the killer
- Star eventually figured out how the scissors work and used them to get to the cafeteria/kitchen area
- The black sweater and Star had to have been in the cabinet at some point
- Comparing the blood from the neck wound and the blood on the floor, something is definitely off
- Mabel seems to be leading Dipper and Dib in a weird way (I wonder what this was for)
- The killer didn't put the knife on the rack, rather in the drawer, still wet (the murderer likely had too much on their hands to bring it with them)
- Bubbles was part of the BDA so she can't be the murderer
- Cupcake counts towards the BDA
- The reason Cupcake was having positive responses to Cartman was because of the Monosauce (see the next point)
- The Monosauce turned out to be a truth serum. It was left on the counter because Cartman used it the night of Star's murder.
- Blossom, Bubbles, and Jenny were having their powers drained by the time of the murder
- Vendetta was asleep, and Charlotte doesn't really understand the concept of death, let alone murder, so those two didn't do it
- Cupcake can't distinguish people without proper sight of them (we already know that the killer was wearing the ski mask)
- Dib, Star, Charlotte, and Dipper were left out of the motive
- Eddy was reading "Wakeup Stories" to Ed
- Zim *really* wants to live (implying that he isn't the killer, we saw during the trial)
- Mabel left the infirmary early while Morty stayed behind
- They used the black sweater and ski mask to lurk in the cafeteria/kitchen
- If the killer was close with Dipper, they wouldn't want to target them
- Dipper saw a shadow of someone at 12:20
- The ski mask was likely flipped inside out before putting it away (explaining the blood stain on the *inside* of the mask)
- Cartman and Kyle were arguing as the murder was being committed
- If the killer was anyone other than Mabel, they would have needed Mabel's Monokaller to get into her lab
- The sweater was spraypainted black (explaining the smudges)
- The way Mabel reacted when the Mystery Monokaller was found seems weird
- Star was lured to the kitchen
- The reason Star left without her Monokaller wad because she was using the scissors
- The string has black splotches on it, so it had to have touched the black sweater at some point
The investigation + Gravity Falls remix is so addicting to listen to.
OH MAN, I spent the entire time taking notes and I’ve got about 2 1/2 pages of observations and notes and theories about this case. I don’t really feel like translating all of them here at the moment (though I’m sure I‘ll get to that at some point), but to just give the highlights of my findings:
-Mabel is the killer. I will die on this hill. I’ve always believed she was, and although I kept an open mind to the possibility of it being anyone else, It is SO unlikely to be anyone else at this point that I am willing to put 100% faith in it.
Mabel seems to be very aware of where evidence is and how much of it there is. She’s quick to point out stuff like the knife being washed, she wants to stay in the kitchen to look for more evidence, despite Dipper and Dib seemingly ready to move on.
Why is the evidence so confusing? Because Mabel knows more than anyone how good a detective Dipper is. She likely went out of her way to make things confusing because she knew he’d be one of the main investigators. Between actual mysteries she’s been a part of and perhaps even taking a little inspiration from Duck-Tective, I could totally see her having the forethought to be extremely careful with the evidence and being smart enough to plant false evidence. And with her silly demeanor, most people wouldn’t suspect a thing.
Not targeting Dipper is a huge point for Mabel being the killer- Mabel of course spins it as someone having a vendetta (not her) against Star, but realistically, nobody does. At least, nobody does against JUST Star.
Vendetta, Cartman, and Zim are all evil, but Cartman in particular is a lazy fucker who would’ve NEVER opted to fight someone when he could kill them in their sleep. And Vendetta and Zim, evil as they are, again have no reason to go for Star when Dipper is right there.
Mabel seems very mistrusting of Dib, very reluctant to let him join their mystery squad. Which is RICH coming from little miss “Shifty Grifter who’s been lying to us all summer and might be destroying the world with this portal, I trust you more than my bro-bro who’s BEGGING me to shut it down!”. Mabel has always been the opposite of Dipper’s “Trust No One!” Approach, but feels the need to keep an eye on Dib?
Probably because she’s worried he’ll find something. He’ll be harder to manipulate, he won’t have any bias towards her. Dipper probably doesn’t suspect Mabel for a second- at least, he definitely doesn’t want to. Dib is much more likely to see the bigger picture, and would have FAR less hang ups about seeing Mabel as a suspect.
As soon as it was mentioned that Cupcake needed to see a face, I immediately thought that Mabel knitting a mask was a huge possibility. Sure enough… I do think that Cupcake saw her face though. I think the mask was pulled off during the struggle and that’s why some blood got inside.
I think Cupcake was reacting so badly out of trauma. Being super vicious because she was in the presence of the killer, naturally.
But she was friendly towards Cartman?
Let’s say Mabel killed Star. She was wearing a recently painted black sweater and a mask. Time of death, maybe about midnight? Cupcake sees Mabel once she’s unmasked, Cupcake is witness 1. While Mabel is messing up the crime scene, at 12:10 someone approaches. It’s Cartman. To avoid being seen, Mabel crawls into the cupboard, paint from the sweater smearing on the cupboard and Star’s back. Cartman sees Cupcake, and perhaps in a rare moment of sympathy, he actually manages to comfort her. Cartman is Witness 2.
Mabel quickly puts the mask away in the supply closet and slips away at 12:20.
Bubbles later finds Star’s body, and contrary to her belief, is witness 3.
There’s still a couple of things I can’t quite piece together yet, but I think something along those lines makes sense for now.
Some other notes that I can’t quite place:
-I think the flashes in Gaz’s room were from Star’s dimensional scissors. They can’t make portals to leave the school, but to travel within the school? Definitely possible.
I think Gaz’s monokaller was taken from her room? We have an unknown monokaller to account for, and with a) nobody mentioning their Monokaller was missing and b) Gaz not leaving her room until the trial and thus perhaps not noticing it was missing until then, it being hers is the best candidate.
- Something I just thought of- I think Cupcake was definitely restrained using the rope Dib found in the garbage. It’s covered in black stains. On top of that, I believe the “hairball” might be pieces of chewed up rope from her trying to break free.
The stuff regarding Monokuma’s mystery hour, the gym scene, the actual murder weapon- I have theories about, but far less solid evidence to back it up. I think these are things that will have to come to light during the actual trial.
When you put it that way, it certainly does make Mabel look suspicious. Parts of her behavior from time to time did make her seem a little sus, such as refusing to go into Star's room for evidence.
I'll admit, I was suspecting Morty at first because of the size of the Sweater that's been used, which seems far too big for Mabel.
We also can't forget that anyone could have accessed Mabel's lab to spray paint it black, and hide their MonoKaller in that giant egg.
However, if it is Mabel, then it would make sense why the culprit would ignore Dipper, since he was incapacitated at the time. Mabel obviously wouldn't kill her own brother.
What I like to know is, why pick Star out as her victim out of everyone else?
@@dragonman2168 Then there's the idea of the mystery MonoKaller being able to be open and taking a look at the messages. I've seen others pull out ideas like it's Jenny's MonoKaller because of no fingerprints, but that only makes me question how and why did she lose it in the first place.
This did leave me stumped because I didn't want suspect Mabel.
My only answer to Star being picked would probably be something like an easy kill. Problem is that there are others far more vulnerable to attacks and the Idea that Star could teleport within the school beats that as well.
@@zerozero4101 Yeah, that's true. Even without her wand, Star has been shown to hold her own in a fight, so Star seems more like she'd be a tricky kill. Charlotte or Ed seem the most vulnerable and gullible, so I think they would be easier targets. Wouldn't they?
@@dragonman2168 Yeah, they'd definitely would be more open to attacks, a surprise attack even more. It just boggles me on why the Culprit chose Star. The only other possibilities that would be the case would be taking her by surprise, but we pretty much classified that as less likely because of the ability to teleport or being able to fight back. My only thought was being able to knock her out and went for the kill that way, but there weren't any other injuries aside from the neck wound.
Do you think Mabel is tryin to pin the blame on Jenny? Star felt really close to Jenny. The mono caller had to be Jenny’s to trick star to go to the kitchen. Mabel has been acting suspicious of not wanting to go places to find evidence in other places which makes me think that she might be the one who did this. Still don’t understand why star was her target tho? Star and Jenny trusted each other so Mabel must’ve known about and used it to her advantage. Mabel also knows the secret code as well. I think it’s Mabel , sorry dipper.
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Immediate theory, cartmen found star bleeding out and took her to the kitchen to try to save her,
The reason star's hands weren't on her neck is because cartmen was holding her neck,
As such, the kitty saw cartmen try to save her, and is only kind to him because of this
As much as I hate to say it, I have a feeling Morty is the culprit here. While it could feasibly still be Mabel like most people speculate, Morty doesn’t really have a stone-cold alibi and has the motivation to do so with the portal gun. The limited screen time he’s gotten has framed him as a really nice guy which is sort of odd considering his series’ general tone. It kinda fits. I don’t know, maybe it’s just because I want it written here just in case this comes true but whatever. I also really want him to last longer but I’ve got a bad feeling.
only 11 minutes in and cartman as the antagonist is pure gold
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ok...im about 80% sure their intentionally setting mabel up as a red herring and the killer is probably blossom
i don't think the killer is blossom because i'm pretty sure bubbles immediately went to the kitchen and thats when she found stars body that wouldn't be enough time for blossom to murder star
Vendetta is suspicious but the first trial is never that simple, so I’ll go ahead and assume she’s not the killer
I'm still sus about Jenny, I mean the mono thing found in mabels room didn't need fingerprints, and a robot doesn't have fingerprints ( I think), so It might be her, but I have seen some fair arguments, so this isn't a 100% teue
I didn’t think of the fingerprint thing!
I was sus of her two and the two superhero girls. Plus the fiend girls. There’s also Eric, but no way is he the one since he’s this series antagonist
Also the black stains, maybe they're from the fiend but it could also be oil
@@ArandanoEstrellado no I don't think so, I think thats from cupcake
@@slicelol5223 Yeah maybe
@@ArandanoEstrellado but I will say this, the rope Dib found at the end confuses me, like it has black stuff on it, but like, can the fiend even grab a rope, like I don't thinks so, also, why the rope, the only thing I can think off is that that's the murder weapon, and the killer threw it away and slashed her throat to make it look like the knife was the murder weapon, but if that's the case that would put Mabel st the top of the suspect list, since she has similar materials, plus the killers mono thing was also there (althought the mono thing being hidden away is useless since if it is the killers aka Mabel mono thing, why would she hide it, instead of keeping it with her)
(And as I said that's the main thing that makes me suspect jenny
God this was amazing, legit contender for my fav ongoing Ronpa fan series atm lol. (and that's counting not just the YT, but also Insta and Wordpress ones)
Great stuff by the team, take your time with the Trial!
Wait, back up. WordPress fangans??? Color me intrigued.
I swear if this project gets canceled I’ll be so mad
I think it may be Morty here's why: That portal gun could actually explode or something if it's used. It's also one of the only devices that can get them out of the school not to mention Rick would more or less kill Morty if he got out of here and without the portal gun. In fact rick is most likely dead if monokuma has that. All of that could have driven Morty insane to the point of murder. Plus Morty jumped into the scene like "What's going on? Oh god is she dead???" Pretty weird way of walking into a crime scene he also recovered after seeing it pretty quickly. And finally Morty could actually fit in those sweaters better than most others and it very well could have been used as part of a disguise. Overall Morty is not talked about enough and we should take EVERYONE into consideration here.
Morty has seen death a lot at this point though. Including himself and his family.
Ok I just have a few problems with this theory or opinion here’s the thing with that if Monokuma can stop stars scissors then he can stop the portal gun why would Rick even kill morty? Rick has almost sacrificed his life and cares about morty he just doesn’t show it there’s an episodes where morty steels and breaks the portal at times and he doesn’t kill him for that
Just because monokuma has it doesn’t mean ricks dead he is the smartest man in the universe and is pretty resilient I’m pretty sure he’s still alive
Monokuma just took the portal gun and even then how do we know it’s not just a portal gun from another universe
That isn’t enough to make morty kill someone like morty has been through some Shit something like that isn’t gonna make him break I mean he literally had to literally abandon his home universe because he fucked something up hell all of mortys adventures with Rick would make anyone kill someone out of insanity morty isn’t easy to break
Oh god is she dead is reasonable when you consider what series mortys from I mean he seen people survive crazier stuff and him recoving fast is normal as he’s seen Death so many times like to many times to count and more if you include the fact almost everyone in mortys home universe is dead I mean just because of that one thing doesn’t mean he’s automatically he killer he might be able to fit in it well which I don’t really see morty isn’t talked about enough because well he’s been through the most shit out of anyone here that it kinda doesn’t make much sense for him to kill I respect your opinion or is it a theory? What ever it just has a few problems I hope you don’t see this as me saying anything wrong to you as I don’t mean harm if you are reading this tho I hope your having a good day or night
@@Flap_jacks69 Morty however is the most likely to kill out of everyone here besides Zim. He has killed the most directly and indirectly.
@@bestaround3323 those times were out of self defense and accidental like season 5 episode 1 all of that was accidental and morty has no reason to kill anyone here on top of that morty is smarter then looks and is cool under pressure that whole crime scene doesnt really match morty like at all and we’ve seen how pacifistic morty is and can be to
@@Flap_jacks69 Yeah, accidental and self defense, like when he slaughtered a kingdom over wine. That was not on accident, that was on purpose and with malice. The death crystal chaos of course can't be forgotten, as he did all of that just to be with a crush.
Morty has killed for less. Although a better point against Morty would be how he is able to keep his cool so far. Morty isn't exactly a good actor.
This is very exhilarating. I’m excited for the trial and for WHO THE EVERLOVING F KILLED ONE OF THE BEST ONES AND WHY. I better stay tuned.
this is just so AHHHHHHH
ok really hoping Kyle isn't the killer here, also good punch my man!
can't wait to know who killed Star but oh boi will it be a ride :D
I think star was killed by blossom. The text was sent probably from one of the 3 and as Jenny said removing her powers took awhile. Removing the others was just draining chemical x which is why I think blossom killed her after sending the message from her monokaller.((edit:so I saw a comment and it brought me to a whole new conclusion. MABLE is the killer no doubt in my mind. What brought me there is Jenny's monokaller messaged star because Henny doesn't have a fingerprint to unlock here with. So mable took it, hid it after sending the message and wanted to save waddles so she killed star. She also turned a pastel sweater black to sneak around with the black mask. She was certain on the wigs to drag them away from the masks. She didn't want to check stars room cause of the monokaller. She only went along with her ultimate room cause she didn't have a choice. She knew the knife was washed and was insulted dipper didn't figure it out. So my theory of blossom being released early cause she was drained earlier was definitely wrong. MABLE just kept dodging any clues she could and in the end it's mable no matter how you look at it
Nah imo Mabel has the timeline to do it but the motive is weak. I saw another motive that a different comment suggested. someone was going to kill Dipper so Mabel murdered to defend him.
Yes Mabel cares about Waddles but like… she’s not that childish. I think she’s childish in other ways, but if she’s murdering just for waddles and nothing else, I’d be disappointed in an otherwise very well written fangan. Also Mabel isn’t righteous enough to murder because she cares about all the hostages from what I know of her. She’s not a superhero who’s burdened with the lives of people she’s not associated with.
So it makes sense that a troublemaker created a scenario where both star and Mabel encounter each other. And that trouble maker probably wanted to save their loved one but didn’t want to get their hands dirty.
I have other problems with it being Mabel but it’s mainly just gripes with Danganronpa writing… but I’m also sitting with the idea of… if it was Mabel… why would she put the black sweater back in her closet? Why wouldn’t she put it in her room? If she thought nobody would look in her ultimate lab then why would she bother to hide the monokaller or the sweater? She would’ve just left it out.
Part of me thinks there a possibility Dib thinks it’s Mabel and Mabel is the “obvious first case suspect” instead of Cartman. Dib gets half the class against her and they do a scrum debate to defend her and then blah blah blah REAL CULPRIT.
I just decided to check the channel yesterday, and BOOM, sneak peak and all, some time later, announcement it's coming TOMORROW!
And now, here it is, we just gotta wait.
I love all of the mixes so much in this well done.
I think our culprit might just be Kyle, from how much we've gotten to see him, and how he reacted to things, it'd be the perfect cover up for his plan. Only thing left would be to find out what the reason is
Well, Kenny is his motive. Remember his reaction to witnessing Kenny on the screen? Pure fear and anger (from what I remember.)
Plus, since Kyle's not one of the select few people who's able to remember Kenny's deaths, he'd be fully under the impression that death for him would be permanent. This detail also makes Cartman falling for the motive even more unlikely, since he's been shown to be aware that Kenny has died many times.
Spoilers for not only this video, but also all of Danganronpa. You have been warned.
So, is a 2 or v3 situation. As clearly it isn't as simple as 1. Not to mention star seems to be quite off, to say the least in that segment, almost like she is just watching a gameshow, or a simulation. Not to mention the digitization that seemed to take place as the cast were going to the trial room.
Oh yeah. This case is DEFIANTLY being revisited later, likely on the tampered memories OR the magic wand. Star atm has too many unanswered questions surrounding her to be ignored
Aw yeah this was so cool :3 my favourite truth buttons are the string, hairball, monosauce, and that strange knife placement!
I'm speculating that maybe it could be.. Morty? I'm still unsure though.
My main reason for this would be the large sweater spray-painted black, and since it's a larger sweater, I'm immediately drawn to the taller characters. But since Star's dead, and Jenny was MIA since she was being powered down by Monokuma, that mainly leaves Morty. Or you could maybe stretch it and say Ed too, since he's kind of tall, but I doubt it.
The unknown Monokaller is most definitely Jenny's, no doubt, but I still can't really say she's the killer due to the whole thing with her, Bubbles and Blossom being powered down.
I don't know, this investigation kind of stumped me.
True Jenny technically has an alibi along with the PPG.
@@AnInkStick but the problem is, we still don’t know what Jenny did after an hour of being powered down. She may have an alibi, just not an airtight one. Bubbles woke around 6am, so Jenny could have left before then, killed Star and dipped back into power down mode.
I CAN'T WAIT!!! - To watch this tomorrow because this starts at Midnight for me... Have a great day everyone else.
Edit: Not gonna lie, and I feel very bad for doing this... But I low-key ship Dib and Dipper for some reason...
Same, almost
the next episodes tommorow?
@@aweanimate5161 no. For me it started at midnight because I'm from Europe.
honestly i've shipped dib and dipper since before i even knew about cidr lol
@@caitlinstauffer8685 lol
Okay Kyle don't be suspicious now
I'd hope so.
But I won't be surprised if he's the guilty party.
Wow, this has left me hooked. I've been so anxious to see how you and the rest of the team will handle the class trial video. I really hope it's soon because I wanna see it through and through~
2:22:00 no way it's gonna be THAT great
STAR GOT ME BECOMING PAST TENSE FROM LAUGHING TOO GBFBDUJDHFBD
gosh, the sound design is SO GOOD
Wait… Eddy…
How could Ed get into your room constantly if the doors are constantly coded to only open when the phone is used?
SPOILERS
Now that there's evidence, I have a few suspects. First is Jenny. Them being awake the whole time is suspicious and like the comments said, they could've easily just killed Star. The Monocaller message also is kinda suspicious since only Jenny, Blossom, and Bubbles were taken by Monokuma, thus making them the only ones who could've said "finished early". Jenny also had their mom as one of the hostages making them a good suspect. Another one is Blossom. Her being asleep could've been a lie and maybe she did finish earlier and Jenny didn't see? I'm not sure but the ski mask's location is at the warehouse where the dumbbells were at. Blossom knows the location of the dumbbells so maybe she also knew where that ski mask was? and a possible place to hide it? She's also one of the people who could've texted Star, making her a suspect as well. (Buttercup is also a hostage so I kinda think she's likely to kill someone)
Spoiler
NOW FOR THE MURDER ITSELF
I honestly think Star brought the scissors with her in order to well, help. Another thing is to kill??? someone since she acted as if she didn't know Marco. I think she actually knew him and was planning to kill someone to save him. She may have hidden in the cabinet which explains the smudges and surprise attacked the killer. The killer though, also had intentions to kill, thus as to why they had a ski mask and stuff. They killed her by stabbing her with a knife since the knife is pretty close to the cabinet and the body. I'm thinking Cartman saw this all making him one of the 3 that saw the body, the others are Cupcake and Bubbles. Another theory I'm thinking is that the killer had no intention to kill and the it was Cartman wearing the ski mask, explaining the tiny blood spot. The killer may have acted in self defense and accidentally killed Star in the process. I'm thinking the killer used the dimensional scissors to go inside Star's room and place her monopad there, explaining the light that Gaz saw. I'm thinking that should've happened after 12:10 since Kyle? was waiting for Cartman around that time. Since Dipper saw the shadow around 12:20, it's safe to saw Gaz saw that light in between 12:10-12:20. They don't need their own monopad though since the were with Monokoma, meaning they don't have to go into their rooms. They could've just went back and pretended as if Monokuma were draining their powers. That's why I think the killer is either Jenny or Blossom since they are the most reasonable ones.
As for the hairball, I think it's just Vendetta's hair. But I also think it may have been the killer's hair. They may have fed Cupcake some of the monosauce so that it doesn't attack them, that's why I think it's Blossom since she's one of the people who know how to use the Mewwave (idk the spelling) but yeah!
Speculations for the blackened aside, Cheesy's work on this video is outstandingly good!
Hello everyone I just want to share my overall theory and cross out the few supects since some people in the poll suggested them. So be warned this will be fill with spoilers.
Theory: Ok after reviewing the evidence I know I can cross off 4 people immediately. They are Dipper (due to be the protagonist and he was unconscious during the murder), Blossom, Bubbles, and Jenny since Bubbles has stated that they were kept by Monokuma for the power removal the entire night so it couldn’t be them. Next I will cross off two suspects which is Kyle and Cartman since Kyle stated they talk at 11:50 and talk for a couple minutes. This is because the culprit send a text at 11:50 and Star stated she will be right down so I think it is impossible for both to do this while talking to each so I will cross those two off. Next I will cross off Dib Mebrane due to it not making sense for him to find the monocaller in the wool egg (I forgot what it’s call) since he could’ve just lie and said there was nothing and to literally just help find a few evidence that could be against so it doesn’t make sense for him to be the culprit. I also doubt that it’s Mabel as many would believe do to her title as the sweater maker. And there was one problem with the black sweater found in the room. It was spray by a black spray can but to me what is strange is doesn’t she have some black string and sew to create a black sweatshirt so why would she just leave evidence in a place that would be against her. Also don’t forget these rooms could be move into since they don’t seem to have any locks. I would also cross out Gaz due to a gut feeling and I think it make sense for her to be evidence and. Help for this case to happen since I doubt she would murder anyone since she have no motive to kill anyone. I would cross off Eddy due to the class trope of buff characters dying in the 4th chapter but I can’t have that feeling of him dying early or surviving. Also I do admit Kyle’s alibi isn’t as air type but if we can assume the culprit was the figure Dipper saw at 12:20 then we can be for a little bit sure it isn’t Kyle since Cartman will be his alibi too.
Overall theory: Dipper, Mabel, Blossom, Bubbles, Jenny, Dib, Gaz, Cartman, Kyle, couldn’t be the culprits
Leaving these suspects: Edd, Eddy, Vendetta, Charlotte, Zim, and Morty.
That Dying with the Stars is an awesome ideas to help characters who die get more screen time.
I am now almost certain it is either Morty or Jenny:
- Both tall enough to be the figure Dipper saw, and to fit into the large dyed sweater
- Both on friendly enough terms with Star that her reaction to their request would be polite
- Both have knowledge of advanced technology and portals and such like what Star's scissors are used for
For Morty:
- Has absolutely no alibi and gave nothing of use when interrogated besides he's glad Dipper recovered
- Has hair for the hairball
For Jenny:
- The message on the monokaller would suggest it's her, she even said she was awake during the power removal process, and thus would have realized it was over quicker than the power puffs who were knocked out longer due to anesthesia. She could have then left for a while, only to later sneak back into the basement and played along with their idea that the whole process took far longer.
- Said monokaller may not have worked for Dib because it was meant to be used by a robot, not a human
Body discovery guesses:
Witness #1: Cartman
Witness #2: Whichever of Morty/Star DIDN'T do it (Edit: This makes no sense my apologies. It was cupcake)
Witness #3 Bubbles
I think cupcake is likely just scared bc she saw a masked figure commit the murder and can't tell who it was besides Cartman, who was also there but is not the culprit.
Obviously Cartman then refused questioning because he at the moment cannot lie (due to the monosauce), as is shown by his sense of humor getting messed with, as well as his announcement of having to take a shit in very literal words.
I never considered that Cartman would drink the Monosauce! Could it be a truth serum of some sort?
@@JamStar444 That'd be my guess
Ngl I think star had the broken heart on her cheeks instead of a full heart because I think she was heart broken before she died because someone that she trusted betrayed her and that expression stayed like that
Oh shit maybe…
Hello! So i wanted to make some request characters so maybe i can tell you? 1st is: bill Cipher, he would be suspected as the mastermind, he would kinda be blamed but… he has another secret from that idea.. 2nd: Roadrunner from a show called looney tunes, he would be dippers other supporter! Even if he can’t speak literally, mabel or bubbles can also understand what he/she says, but no one really knows how… 3rd/ final request character: luz noceda from the owl house, luz would be VERY terrified without eda or king… those are my request characters!
This I awsome I can see all the work put into this the artists, writers, editors, voice actors it's all great you've inspired a lot of my art lately and I just want to say keep up the good work I can't wait for the class trail and more to come!
This was amazing! Thank you to Cheesy and all the crew for their hard work!
I wasn't able to watch the premiere, but I'm here now.
Edit: I'll be editing this as I go. It seems Bubbles, Blossom, and Jenny have alibis, since they were all put to sleep by Monokuma.
Also, the black smudges in the cabinet? Probably made by Cupcake. Could Cupcake be the culprit? Is that allowed? I have no idea.
Ok so I'm currently thinking Star tried to kill someone, but that someone ended up killing Star instead. Just a feeling currently.
Alright so, video is over. I have a few suspects, those being Kyle, Morty, and of course, Cupcake.
Jenny does not have a proper alibi as she was awake for around an hour (possibly? I’ll have to rewatch I forget) and Cupcake counted towards the BDA as a witness, so it cannot be Cupcake.
edit: Forgot to add, remember Star was lured to the kitchen so it disproves a Sayaka case from happening.
The Investigation was super confusing to me. I felt like I was getting somewhere but also nowhere at the same time because the evidence just doesnt seem to fit together or point to anyone specific. I wanna update this comment with some theories at some point and im ecxited to hear fan theories.
I loved this already
The live chat was great.
And the art, sprites, music, everything was great.
Also there are 4 character i think who would done it
1: jenny
2: bubbles
3: Charlotte
4: mabel
Can't wait for the trial 😋
Time to wait for another 100000000 years for trial 😍
Edit: nvm scratch out bubbles. Just realize she has a alibi 💀✋🏾️
Wait. Charlotte?- Why her?-
Thanks for fixing that 4th wall back there, really appreciate it
@@anonymousanonymous9587 no problem
It’s Mabel gotta be Mabel
@@RGGAM10975 ya but no
I am so excited for the Trial, if I guessed right or not on who the killer is (if one of my suspects is the killer) and how the execution is going to be. The "Dying with the Stars" part was really cool and funny. I am excited to see when Star is talking to her killer.