UPDATE! Monetization is back! You did it Noble ones! I think the Twitter pressure, the views, plus Shad's video did it. I was given direct contact with the ad sense team, and they put monetization back. I calculated how much revenue I lost these 4 days, it's a lot, but the donations covered that completely and surpassed it. So now, I'm officially independently funded, and thanks to you I can keep posting even if they do this again. Will they? Not sure. Should I remove this upload on Cleopatra to be safe? NOT A CHANCE. This video stays. Onward onto the next battle. Some haters rejoiced of my demonetization and hoped I would stop speaking. Your support and donations turned me into armoured Metatron. Armoured Metatron cannot be silenced.
Exactly! I use to have Netflix, but I drop it about 5 years ago, as I could no longer support their immoral and perverse content. Watching the Metatron educating and entertaining videos is 100 times better than Netflix. That is why I joined his "army" this week.
Then do your field a solid and don't buy like 85% of what they're teaching you in school because archaeology is pretty much a lolcow being used to push agendas these days
@Robert Ågren all depictions have her has a pale skinned ginger , which makes sense since at that time the Celts were still abundant in places other than the modern UK
The thing is, that we have lost sight of what that actually means. Personal truths arent supposed to run contra to fact. They're opinion based. Or something like "Jesus is my savior" is a personal truth... it doesnt mean the Earth is flat, simply because the person believes in Jesus. Something like "Jesus is my savior" and science can be held simoultaniously, not being mutually exclusive to each other. To that person, anyhow. So "Cleopatra was Black" isnt a "Personal truth", it's a declaration of stupidity.
As a black African, I need to just say that this need to “re-represent” everything is a black AMERICAN phenomenon. Us here on the continent know full well that Egyptians look very different from sub-Saharan Africans. In fact, we know that most of them identify as Arabs and not necessarily “Africans”.
Such a huge continent… so many cultures and (sorry, in lack of a better word) shades… It‘s a bit like depicting Seattle like San Antonio (or vice versa), or Scots like Italians…
Producers in Los Angeles see the black community as a bunch of orfan kids that can't connect with any media unless it has black people on it... that disconnected mentality is causing all this travesty of the word "representation".
@@AfricanMaverickI mean, there would be people of African descent who would find themselves somewhere far away, like Scandinavia, Normandy, Dalmatia, the Peloponnese or even Asia Minor/Anatolia. That doesn't mean that Africans are, in any case, the majority within said regions. Same case with the east (Iran, Kurdistan, Iraq, Syria et cetera) or the far east (China, Korea, Tibet, Thailand etc.).
@@AfricanMaverick While a few black folks may have gotten to these places the predominant people were pale skinned not dark skinned. African has some great heros to tell stories of, go find some of those and leave the western history the way it was.
My main issue with this documentary is not about who plays Cleopatra. It's that they legittimately used "my grandma used to say" as a reliable source. In a documentary. You're telling me that, when making a DOCUMENTARY, you use your grandma's words as a source? Without something to back her up?
It's a black thing. I had the same type of argument with a black female friend who claimed her grandmother was the sole survivor of a massacre in my home province. I asked her to tell me more I want to look it up because I never heard of any such attack in my province and she got angry and said 'not everything that happened is written down"
@@zentodalethe survivors would write it down, the people doing the attacking would note it down. Particularly if it's any time past the 18th century because things like that are expensive and hard to cover up
Wakanda the most advanced, noblest, wisest, and overall bestest of bests, civilization ever in the history of the universe... until da white man ruined it.
Pretty much every egyptian in the show is depicted as black. Its not just that they were claiming Cleopatra was black, they clearly want to present Egypt as a black civilization. Oh and i love that they try to give her credit for the Julian calendar.
It's not only cultural appropriation, it's the appropriation of a country's entire cultural heritage and history, purely to serve an ideological fantasy. Disgusting.
It's cultural appropriation of the whole continent by rich Americans because they are desecendents of West-Africans, who have hardly any cultural or genetic ties to North-east Africa.
In 100 years: Metatron was an Inuit. He lived on the American continent where there also were Inuit and native American settlements. Maybe at some point some Europeans (who are central asiatic of course) also came there but the natives were there earlier and therefore prevalent. Also he wore leather bands.
As an Egyptian, I really want to thank you for all the effort you do to defend the truth and with it our history, even your channel got demonetized and you still making videos... YOU ARE A HERO!
Don't worry, some of us have loved your culture our entire lives, and passed that love down to our children. To make up for not having cable, I would tape documentaries on ancient Egypt at work to bring home for my daughter to watch. She won't fall for this B.S re-writing of history by an extremely arrogant, greatly disliked woman like Jada Pinkett Smith! The fact that she, the initiator of the slap heard around the world, had ANYTHING to do with it should tell any thinking person that its NOT be taken seriously.
out of all the countries I've visited, I found Egypt by far the most interesting. Thank you bro, and of course Metatron for respecting authentic history and culture. btw looking at your username, are you actually Rami Malek ? haha loved that show
My wife is Greek and one of the unfortunate things we see about her culture is misrepresentation. Thank you for making this and giving correct historical information.
Well, yeah, because if we're going to be depicted, it's either going to be fully Nordic-looking or African people. Nothing between these two. As if we're not Mediterranean. And even the minority of blondes we have isn't unique in appearance.
that honestly doesn't even make sense. how can such a historic culture be misrepresented so much. way too many sources that it doesn't even make sense to "rewrite" it🤨
How did they do that? For one thing, Adele James' skin tone is a sort of medium light brown. She did not blackwash anything. No one in the documentary thinks Cleopatra was black.
@patdaley9098 Most people that know the actual history don't want to watch it because it's full of bs, and you obviously didn't pay attention when you watched it because I've seen several clips online where they specifically say that she is black. If the actress being black didn't tell you that, the lady that said "she's black because my grandmother told me so" tells you that they were trying to make it seem like she was. If they were going to make a dramatic documentary about the life of Cleopatra, they should have at least done it right and did proper research. Her being the wrong race is not even the only problem with it, there's many others, like the romans wearing stuff that they've never even wore back then. That whole fiasco is offensive to multiple groups of people, especially Egyptians, and just plain disrespectful to Cleopatra.
As an Egyptian I thank you for using your precious time on something not-so-precious and clearing up what is already apparent. I applaud you for your hard work :)
Egyptian history is absolutely precious. Beyond the amazing stories and architecture, no other country can connect us with our very distant past quite like Egypt. Without the Rosetta Stone, how would we have known about Babylon and Sumer? How could we have translated cuneiform and learned about Gilgamesh? What other nation fought off the Sea Peoples and actually won? There will always be people trying to erase the past in the name of their cause. We cannot allow this.
He’s talking like a European though… He can’t recognise facial and racial features of Egyptians and is trying to undertone the fact that Egyptians like most North Africans were Mediterranean. He himself can pass as an Egyptian if he speaks in Egyptian Arabic, ironically enough. He’s from Sicily and with clear North African heritage
@Ahmed Sejini That’s what I’m saying. It wasn’t black. It was Mediterranean with a caucasian majority of North African variety and a degree of mixing with Sudanese who themselves were mixed with Caucasians and were definitely not West African in appearance
@@AlexIncarnate911 yeah and? what your problem? We are european mainly because of shared culture. Yeah the white race isnt completly seperate from all others. Middle easterners are from very very close to middle close. But what makes the line is culture. No south italian or south spain or greek will care if hes 10% moor or arab or ottoman they are all white.
@@AlexIncarnate911 and also its not like he doesnt want to be a part of you its the reverse. Europe and the whole mediteranian were once one civilisation. Roman and christian. Since islam that changed. I should mention though that all places conquered by the muslims except anatolia didnt have the indo european influence from before. But anyways you guys got conquered but we continued our civilisation and legacy.
Yeah, the phrase "my truth" just gives them more pretend validity then the actual truth of their statements, which would be "my opinion". Total BS this new phraseology. Seriously just manipulative for weak minded people.
"My Truth"....I hate when people say that. There's the objective 'truth' that is true for everyone and then there's....no, actually, thats it. There's only the objective truth. Anything outside that is subjective interpretation. It doesn't change the objective truth as that is unchangeable, so when anyone says "This is my truth" they're saying "This is my subjective interpretation of the objective truth that differs from the unchangeable objective truth because I want to believe it's different for personal reasons and thus I'm cherry picking facts and distorting the truth because it's convenient for my personal opinion"
As a black person, we need to go and learn our history from Africa to America before jumping into other people's history. That nonsense on Netflix was so bad from acting, to costume and makeup everything was trash.
That's the catch 22 though. If black people in America learned more about Africa, their entire victim narrative surrounding slavery dissolves to ashes since it was Africans and Arabs doing the slave trade, not whites. The additional notes that whites had debt and war reasons that lead into getting involved in the slave trade (thanks as a direct byproduct of Arab and African colonization in Europe) only makes the case for the narrative even worse lol If it can't reinforce the narrative of white man bad, it will never be taught. Especially to the black community.
It's white people that make this nonsense happen ironically. Every time they pull this stunt they're ignoring real archeology and anthropology south of the sahara that could be looked at.
The absolutely mad man is not only suffering demonetisation, he also suffered through arguably the worst show of this decade to give us the information. We have respect this geeza
@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 Oh trust me it was. As a book fan, it was....something else. At least Rings of Power wasn't a adapting a actual book, so they had a tiny amount of excuse to explain their horrible mangling of Tolkien's world. But then Witcher season 2 wasn't exactly a "adaptation".
I think the reason the Romans are wearing green tunics was because the costume designer's reference was the Asterix comic books. And that probably still made him the most factually knowledgeable about Rome and Egypt out of everyone working on this 'documentary'.
It's unknown, that's the issue with ancient history. Julius Caesar private army in asterix wear green clothes. Just like Darth vader private army wear white armor. They going to tip on someone's toes by underdevelop their history. Yes it is possible, plausible to been mass produced because medieval age is as well history. Colors yellow, red and black were used. It's not like people hit their head so hard that all knowledge was lost.
This whole mockumentary seemed like an ego project on the part of Jada. Apparently it's okay if the current accepted thought leaders are allowed to make revisions to history while if any of us provide sources to dispute them is considered whatever ism they wish to use.
Yes it very clearly was an ego trip on jadas part. It's clear she thinks herself superior and a black queen but because she's so ignorant and instead of making a documentary about actual black queens she appropriated a famous one and retconned her to be black with the most loose theories to back her claims up.
@@deetee4403 yes. It’s pretty cringe that Hollywood has only used Anglo actors to play ancient people for the last 100 years. It’s even more cringe to look at that and think “we need more diverse representation!” and starting making them all black lol
@@deetee4403 Would you be in the comment section commenting if he said "“We shouldn’t assume that she looked like a Black American” therefore we should imagine she looked like a White European."? I would assume not, seems you are in the same boat as him.
@@deetee4403 as a Greek man, I do and I would lol. I’m assuming they fucked up Caesar as well, and if so I do find that annoying. But this film wasn’t made to “correct” his race was it?
Also, Cleopatra was Macedonian GREEK, meaning she had European blood. Why does Jada insists Cleopatra was black? Talk about delusional. She needs to go to a mental hospital.
Is a pattern of speech typical of feminine mental pathology; masculine ones on the other hand are more like 'Is True admit it or die, is the aliens!; they are real!'. Femenine sick people don't have enough open agressive behaviour to them to say 'My opinion is superior to yours' so they say 'is my truth'.
Perhaps in particular because; HOW in the Sweet unrelenting Hypersonic FUCK can you claim it IS the truth of a woman who's been dead for over a 2000 years. Then of course you realize that the whole term "My/Her/Their truth" Literally means " an entirely biased and not necessarily fact checked or evidenced base telling of a story usually told more for political and social reasons rather than the interest in posterity"
yes because in western culture the people get offended and in russia and china you going to jail (mostly, or even worse tortured) and finally in most arabic countrys you get killed. But it was similar back then but not as extreme.Apparently people hated Jesus because he told the truth.
Exactly people's hatred for black people is clouding their judgment. No one truly knows what Cleopatra looked like, but it's not a far stretch that she could have been medium to dark. Afterall, she was mixed due to her parents. People really want to pretend fair skin & dark skin biracials (who are half-black) don't exist. That's the very definition of racism, judging someone based on their skin tone.
‘Historian’: “Everyone can imagine Cleopatra in their own way” Me: “Sure, they CAN, but what does the actual evidence say? Just because someone CAN imagine her in a certain way doesn’t mean they’re CORRECT.”
Historical fantasy has no place in a documentary. The same way that Game of Thrones or Lord of The Rings aren't historical, the same way that 300 and its sequel aren't historical, this so-called documentary would have been much better off being a work of fiction inspired by Egyptian history.
On the other hand, this stupid show made scores of people actually look into Cleopatra's real story. It also made it clear, at least for anyone with two functional neurons, that afrocentrism is just another form of racism. Black people both in Africa and the US recognize it instantly as such and that's why they 're mocking it all over the net.
They actually _dishonestly butchered her statement through editing._ This _honest researcher_ immediately followed that up by saying "granny didn't know, and she was wrong." *These people are honorless scumbags.*
@@amenajackson8133 even if the actress is biracial, you cannot deny the fact that the "Cleopatra" movie is trying to "blackwash" her being black. Cleopatra is not black. She is half-Macedonian. Period.
The only reason we still have netflix is my girlfriend likes the K-dramas. But we recently found an alternative app so will be ditching netflixs next month. Everything coming out of the west is pure crap these days.
@J W The globalists who rule the West are Woke Marxists. Entertainment they produce is nothing but a vehicle for their political propaganda. It's garbage. Nay, it's worse than garbage. We mostly watch foreign films and series in my household, too.
@@jw841 Which app? I am about to the point of ditching Netflix myself. A a related note, does anyone know if Vimeo monetizes? Maybe we could/should see a shift away from TH-cam too.
i never went with netflix because of the cutie thing which is pure noncery, you should had drop netflix from there since protecting kids is as important as protecting truth
Although Cleopatra was Macedonian, white-skinned Egyptians are predominantly of West Asian origin. It doesn't change the fact that the indigenous Nilotes of the Nile Valley were the darkest Nilotes. Migrations from West Asia into Africa began 20,000 years ago. This implies that the indigenous people were the blacks who remained in the Nile Valley.
@@AfricanMaverick what the hell has to do everything you say with the Greek Cleopatra and the Greeks of Alexandria who were ruling the Greek egypt and all the foreners??? nothing. You say NOTHING!
@@wildchild1823 nah, if germany won the war, they are still gonna be the bad guys, and there are still gonna be people who are gonna fight them 2 or 20 years in the future. Dumb people are the ones who believe that whoever wins the war is the hero.
A young Egyptian girl expressed her thoughts at having her culture twisted and manipulated to fit someone else's narrative and boy, did that poor kid get some awful hate from the most ignorant and ill informed group of people to ever make a comment on You Tube and I've read comments from flat earthers. 🤦♀️ We need people like you to keep telling the facts
I saw her too, it was so sad that a young women who don't have anything to do with the biased black and white ideology in America is getting so much hate. I am Greek and I live in Greece, people here or in other continents don't want anything to do with this almost race war what is happening in America
@@gnostic268 Some grannies say that though, my granny def said that. i have no idea where they got the idea from, i think she watched too many michael jackson videos
@@juliansearcie1758 ah, I forgot afro centrists invented time travel and personally met all these black historical figures. Thanks for the remind. You wuz scientists and shieeeeet
The Egyptians typically painted representations of themselves with light brown skin, somewhere between the fair-skinned people of the Levant and the darker Nubian people to the south.
They grasp at the 4 or 5 Egyptian wall paintings showing black people without any context of what those paintings represent (they're slaves, vassals, and captured enemies). And they latch onto the 25th dynasty of Nubian origin claiming all the dynasties were like that.
Just so you know, I found your channel because others shared your ‘Emergency Upload’ video yesterday, and I subscribed and have binge-watched a bunch of your videos, so despite TH-cam dicking you around, it led this girl to discovering a great channel :)
@@sirvivor7835 oh, that's just the light waves being bent around his biceps due to their mass warping the fabric of spacetime. Anymore training and his triceps will break their own Schwarzschild radius.
They wanted to silence him. They forgot that killing the hostage means you get shot dead. Why would he censure himself anymore since they already took his money away.
Its amazing what passes as expertise these says. "My grandma said" and "if i want Cleopatra to look like me, she did" are not actual scientific positions. They laid their cards out on the table and showed this was made for strictly ideological reasons
“I imagine her to look like me :)” and that right there is the heart of the issue. People make themselves the center of the universe-their interests, their emotions, their issues, their experience. It’s frightening to me that they think being unable to empathize with someone who doesn’t look like them is a GOOD thing. Plus ffs, could you BE more immature and self-absorbed???
This is a problem that is starting to become more frequent and it’s honestly quite disturbing. It’s the equivalent of someone kidnapping an influential figure and surgically altering their pigmentation just so that they can satisfy their severe insecurities and finally make their inspiration look their the ethnicity they want.
Even if they just had a disclaimer at the start that said something like “ we recognize that the actress for cleopatra has a darker complexion then would be historically accurate. However, no other actress we could find was able to embody her personality and character the way she could, and as historians , we have decided that it’s more important to accurately depict her personality and character rather then accurately depict skin tone, we have no intention of erasing the Egyptian identity or spreading misinformation “ I would have had so much more respect for them if they said that. But no they genuinely didn’t give a single shit about historical accuracy. They used conspiracy grandma as their source when one of the most accomplished experts in the feild offered to help and they rejected him.
@@ulfberht4431 Michael Jai White said something similar in a Vlad interview a few years back when he was talking about the Buddhist monk Bodidharma who traveled to China and brought martial arts to the Shaolin Temple and trained the monks there in physical exercises to improve their health but also as a form of self defense.... Now Bodidharma according to historical records was clearly from India, so he was Indian.... But what does Michael Jai White say in the interview ? "a person who looks like me, my skin colour and my hair" There's a weird trend among Americans in general, to claim culture and history that is not theirs... Black Americans have entire movements and even religions dedicated to it like The Nation of Islam and The Black Hebrew movement.... But even among white Americans like the KKK make such claims about the Bible and how the US was the land promised to them by God and how they are descendents of the original Israelites... It's like that country just has one big identity crisis going on and so they claim and try to steal other people's history and culture but hypocritically also crying about cultural appropriation
Im half Greek, half Japanese. The fact that I, who definitely looks halfway between the two, is genetically closer to Cleopatra than this interpretation is hilarious to me.
After ALL the LIES and HISTORY you have changed ESAU? SERIOUSLY? JADA IS A JACKAZZZ. With that said, Esau, you have rewritten history of every continent. TRUE brown Yisrael were located in greece. They were called Grecians and Greeks! So, your so called Cleopatra was probably brown or a Negro mix at the least. It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The definition of Ham above tells us t things: 1. The TRUE egyptian is a dark brown skin tone. 2. The TRUE people of Yisrael are brown also, not caucasoid. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted in the those lands, PERIOD. Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations. Also, if she is greek, why in the heck are you FAKE egyptians crying about it???????
You took that bullet for us all. Anytime someone says “my truth” or any variant of it, it’s code for “everything I’m about to say is highly questionable, but you better not call me out or I will cry.”
the creators of this had to literally admit that it's not even a documentary. they wanted to have a new take on cleopatra and put a reimagined version of her. that was literally they're whole excuse for making her african
So much of this bs could've been avoided if they weren't dumb enough to call it a documentary, and instead advertised it as a docu-drama or historical fiction.
@@AD-dg3zzexactly, its like how in Bridgerton's queen Charlotte was depicted as a black woman. I don't care since it's fictional and they're not trying to go for the realistic angle that much. they've got glitter everywhere and some of the songs are instrumental versions of Ed Sheeran's songs, so a black Charlotte doesn't mean much to me lol
They said it was a documentary, then when people pointed out that it's incredibly historically inaccurate they said "oh, but it isn't really a documentary. It's a reimagining of history"
" as long as she doesn't look European" This statement sums up the entire thing quite well. Always figured Pinkett Smith thought of herself as a queen but I didnt realize she was a full out Kween.
If we really want to obsess with how she looks, it seems mainland Greeks from 600 Bc-100 AD genetically were more similar to Modern day Sardinians. Extremely high Neolithic Anatolian Farmer dna. Modern Greeks having an influx of Zagros Neolithic farmer dna and Natufian Hunter Gatherer dna, from the Middle East, and European Hunter Gatherer from the slavs who came in within the last 1000 years. So it seems Sardinians are the closest genetically to ancient Southern Europeans, with Spaniards being second
@@spinosaurusstriker lol, yea I guess. Just a people from an island on the Mediterranean that have been influenced the least by Middle Eastern and Northern European people, thus, coincidentally making them the genetically closest to ancient Greeks
"If i'm wrong and they have a reason, i'm more than happy to learn from them" As someone who only recently has found a passion for hystory I love this line so much. As I have learned I have made assuptions and later learned I was wrong. I have always been happy to learn I was wrong since I was able to learn something new. I love this guys attitude to these things so much.
*Critiques the Cleopatra show on historical grounds* *Experiences demonetization* *Doubles down on the same show* Way to go Metatron! Objectivity and truth comes first. Regardless if the demonetization was malicious or not.
I absolutely hate it when someone says something like "I'm speaking my truth" or "We're telling her truth" because what that says to me is "I'm not speaking facts, I'm spinning my own narrative based on my own personal feelings and/or biases." Amber Heard said she was "speaking her truth", and we all know how THAT panned out...
I understand your concern, although I'd caution against hating this phrase because people co-opted it from the mental health field. It's used a lot when patients don't have or no longer have evidence of abuse they have suffered and are being gaslit over it happening at all. Lots of trauma therapists use this phrase, so it wouldn't surprise me if they heard a genuine victim say the phrase and then try to use that phrase as a way to further gaslight others. Sad, but not unexpected from those who gaslight, since gaslighting is about control, not how much logical sense it makes. Just wanted to give my two cents as someone in the mental health field :)
This whole thing reminds me of the time ea was trying to claim people don't know their history. for one of their battlefield games. Only no, people know their history and ea was trying to replace real people with fictional characters. With ea never having heard of valkyria chronicles. A game that is basically yep this is a fictional setting base off ww2. For if you want to write fiction, label is as fiction and not the truth. While here. I have to wonder if this netflix thing was born out of the idea of. You can only relate to people who look like you. a idea that seems rather common the past few years. Which tries to narrow down humanity to a bare bones level. Ignoring that many people relate to someone due to who they are, not what they are. For trying to rewrite history seems like a very selfish and self-centered thing to do.
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa A lot of people I'd describe as parasitic self centered people use that phrase a lot. It's how I know to avoid certain characters in this world.
@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa that's why I genuinely believe there is a fine distinction between "my" truth and "the" truth, because I've noticed that people have a tendency to believe what they want despite being practically slapped in the face with facts. It's a major issue, especially in today's political arena...but that's a whole other keg of nope I'd rather not address...lol
What I don't understand is this - if Black Africans were large parts of the population, in prominent positions of rulership ALL over these other cultures (Vikings, England, Egypt,....) how is it there is ZERO depiction of them in paintings, stories, pictures, documentaries, etc..?
Because according to those same people, somehow the "weaker, more inferior, inbred, unable to do anything themselves, unable to invent anything or create anything" white/arab/jewish/islandic/nordic/mexican/asian people defeated them and erased absolutely 100% of all possible saved history, then buried fake evidence of their culture to "get away" with somehow generations of lies... ya know, like a conspiricy theorist would say.... I swear these flat earthers just found another topic and it's this.
Like, what happened to these army wielding black people in medieval times? Surely they didn't just lay down their arms when chattel slavery took root, but since we have no record of a social war being fought over powerful families losing their wealth, power, and lands before being forced into slavery it must have been a peaceful transition Unless Europe wasn't as politically diverse as Netflix would have us think
Egyptian images show four races: with Nubians (the nation next to them) being black and well known and respected for their warriorship. Also, 700-800 BC Egypt was ruled by blacks from the south. No argument. Then Alexander took over the Persian empire but become "pharaoh" first and then his general took over after he died and his dynasty rulled until this time (50 bc). This is all well known by many sources with no dog int he race. Also, they didn't have black VS white animosity at that time like we did now so totally American view point of an ancient period. Dumb af.
Cleopatra was a real person not a fictional one, people can't just rewrite her being because they want her to be someone else. That is just disrespectful.
Well, you can, but it damn well better be labeled "speculative fiction" & "alternate history".... 😏 I'm 1000% for taking a second look at history as we know it, because a lot of historiography has definitely been carried out through a lens warped by the prejudices of the time? But this kind of "history as fanfic" approach does NOT help; it just adds yet more layers of misinformation 😣
You obviously missed the remake of Ann Boleyn which had the main character race swapped, and one of the other Boleyns as well. I'm waiting for them to be really brave and have a European mohammad.
@@Zett76 Jesus is represented in multiple races. there's White Jesus, Black Jesus, Chinese Jesus, ext. I don't think Jesus would of cared. All he would of cared about is if his followers sit down and listened to what he had to say.
I'm glad that this project got the proper response and that people, both from Egypt and outside, united against it. Because obviously, if this 'documentary' succeeded, it would give them more space to alter other historical facts, especially in Africa, but it wouldn't surprise me if they'd eventually reach the American continent and claim that it was actually black.
Oh they already do. I've experienced this many times from black people online. I'm Native American with mostly Lakota ancestors with the exception of at least one Arikara female ancestor. There is no African DNA in Native people if they don't have black ancestors. However this doesn't stop certain black people from claiming that they are the real Indigenous people of the Americas and Native tribes are really just Asians who genocided black people who coincidentally were also living in Africa. Apparently, they built ships and traveled back and forth becausethey missed their cousins on orher continents but this is all a secret. LoL These black people grew all the indigenous foods that were later discovered by Europeans, too. Potatoes, tomatoes, pineapples, corn, and many more foods that were new to Europeans. All created by Indigenous people but certain American black people claim those too. They secretly brought the seeds back and forth across the Atlantic and everything was created by them but never used or grown or known about in Africa. It was all a big secret. Shhh! It's too convoluted to be understood 🙄 They have some kind of a mass psychosis that makes them create an imaginary history out of nonsense. This is what American propaganda has done because the U.S. has also created a "faux" history about "Pilgrims and building a new Jerusalem in the wilderness" as if there weren't millions of Native tribes living here originally. The same tribes which the govt made over 500 treaties with thereby acknowledging that various tribes owned the rights to the land and that the government needed the tribes to cede the land. They wanted to officially take possession of it and move the tribes to other territory and so on. So, black people in America are just doing what the U.S. govt has always done. Make up a story about a country and make it seem magical and heroic, throw in a little Manifest Destiny and a little patriotism and erase all the original inhabitants and presto! You have a whole country and a flag and it's amazing and powerful and built by Christian immigrants. Native people are described as "merciless Indian savages" in the Declaration of Independence so that takes care of them as having any moral high ground to object. Steal a continent and you can do and say anything. Now in 2023, Hollywood is re-colonizing Egypt and stealing their history and it's not as fun as before because there is YT and people who rightfully can and should object. We have modern DNA and science that can prove who and where your ancestors came from. Grandma wasn't always right and she might've been misinformed.
True, but I didnt hear anyone other than whhytes rail against the blaq portrayal of Anne Boleyn and other English/UK figures. Whhytes always rally in defense of other, but those others dont give a damn about anyone but themselves.
Reminds me of an old friend....well...acquaintance of mine. She'd be spouting the most insane things and if I'd give evidence that she was talking nonsense, she was like: "Well this is my truth and that's not worth any less than yours!"
@@MarcelNL and she was right. We are the ones who give value to the concepts in our minds that we consider truth, therefore she gives value to her concepts just as much as you give value to yours. Why would you say that yours are somehow better and that others should only value yours and not their own?
@@sophiependragon2467 Yeah the moon is made of cheese, that's my truth. You got evidence against that? Well that doesn't make your truth any more valuable than mine. I'll just stick my fingers in my ears and shout "LALALALA!!!" when you try to explain to me how it was formed, because my truth is that it's made of cheese and was put there by a Dutch farmer.
As an Egyptian and lover of history this 'documentary' sickens me I knew it would be awful and I couldn't stomach watching it. Thanks for watching it for us and even with demonitization your still making great content much thanks
As a Texan I say that this series is a biased stupid waste of time. I saw the open Black Bigotry which was integral in "Wakanda Forever" and Disney's "Proud Family"' reboot series: Bigotry that equalled the levels of the KKK. And I know bigotry: My background is Hispanic, from California, and I've had the misfortune of encountering "Latinos" who called me insulting names like "Pendejo", "Chavo De Ocho"( a character similar to Jeff Dunham's Bubba Jay) and "Californero" which as far as I'm concerned is the "Latino" equivalent of the infamous N-word. And it takes a huge amount of Black bigotry to totally rewrite an established historical character AND call out Egypt for bigotry for condemning this made up story. Which has little to do with reality: It's akin to remaking the battle of the Alamo and adding in AK47s and armed flying drones. Or having Nicholas Cage playing Martin Luther King in a biopic.
But even ancient Romans depicted Egyptians as black. The mummies of pharaohs look black. Broaden your mind. I recommend Mr. Imhotep’s channel. I wasn’t there but it’s not clear cut. Are you sure her entire lineage is pure Ancient Greek? Remember Ancient Greece encompassed a lot of land.
"Freedom of Speech is a B*tch" Such a fitting title. Thank you for continuing to share factual truth with the world. Your research, dedication, and insight are a testimony to factual history. Thank you!
I agree, like Keanu Reeves as a samurai, Yul Brynner as Ramses, Elyzabeth Taylor as Cleopatra, every native american portrayed by blonde hollywood, Jesus as a blonde blue eyed men... Tss tss, such nonsense!
@Artur Carvalho Yeah christ being a white guy is an old european medieval phase Note I should be wrong so don't take it seriously correct me if i'm wrong This is the metron we're talking about And besides he secondly hebrew As well as the son of god
"My truth" I always hate hearing that term. Truth indicates something is undeniable, pure, without fault etc... Your truth, is really just your story, and your story may be a good one, but it is not always truth, until it is verified.
Granted, Truth can change over time with new discoveries. That being said your absolutely right. How far will we let it slide until "My Truth" gets people out of criminal charges because "he say he didn't do it" becomes a legitimate defense depending on skin color.
Cleopatra: "So you're telling me that a future foreign civilization thousands of miles away from my kingdom has practically reduced my whole existence to a battle of what skin color did she have? Despite my family's lineage being well documented? Me: Yes. Cleo: "...
imagine being the most impressive woman in your age that can go toe-to-toe with statesman across the seas only to see in modern day culture you're just depicted as this cock hungry seductress
To be honest, the most outraging thing for me, as an history student that wants to become an Egyptologist, is that they didn't make an effort to get nor a single thing right in this documentary. Makeup is absolutely wrong (where's the kohl?), headdresses and hairstyles look like something out of the Lord of the Rings (high class Egyptian used to wear wigs, where are them?), I prefer not to mention anything about the clothes because I don't know enough adjectives in English to express how horrible it is. The ceremonies depicted are mostly historically inaccurate. Buildings look like arabic/medieval, specially her palace. For some reason, they included instruments and dances from sub-saharan Africa, and it goes on, and on, and on. Also, this is an documentary is about Egypt's history, BUT not a single scene was recorded in Egypt.
At some point I feared Roman soldiers could start playing soccer and eat pizza, you know... given the historical accuracy of the show... Rome is in Italy...😂
"I don't know enough adjectives in English to express how horrible it is." Hahaha 😂 we can feel your disgust though, no worries. Thanks for your insights!
Nothing like racist people calling a non-racist person a racist because he cares more about facts, reality, and history than he does agenda-driven identity politics.
After ALL the LIES and HISTORY you have changed ESAU? SERIOUSLY? JADA IS A JACKAZZZ. With that said, Esau, you have rewritten history of every continent. TRUE brown Yisrael were located in greece. They were called Grecians and Greeks! So, your so called Cleopatra was probably brown or a Negro mix at the least. It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The definition of Ham above tells us t things: 1. The TRUE egyptian is a dark brown skin tone. 2. The TRUE people of Yisrael are brown also, not caucasoid. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted in the those lands, PERIOD. Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations. Also, if she is greek, why in the heck are you FAKE egyptians crying about it???????
@@ginebravrvr That didn't make sense. Metranon released a second video on this movie, and in it, highlighted some truly badass African queens. If he was a racist, would he of even bothered?
@@ginebravrvr How is that his responsibility? Why should that even be an issue? People take all sorts of things all sorts of ways to justify all sorts of things. Is the idea that we need to carefully curtail our thoughts or censor our discussions because some small-minded person will take it a certain way or use it to justify something? That sounds like a nightmare to me.
Recently discovered your channel, and knew right away I would enjoy it. i respect your pursuit of truth and knowledge without regard for politics or tribalism. This is how scholarship should be done.
Race aside, everyone portrays Cleopatra as much too beautiful. The iconography and the written record says that she was witty and sensual, not stunningly beautiful. The idea thst a woman can be seductive without great beauty just escapes them
Its always the same in any media, Tyrion in GOT was supposed to be hideous yet they managed to cast the most handsome dwarf actor possible for the role. They always make characters good looking to make them likable instead of putting more effort into character building.
How about use your common sense? She attracted two of the most powerful men of her time. She was definitely not ugly nor plain as what some people wrote about her.
Cleopatra's full name was Cleopatra VII Thea Philopator, which *in Greek* (not Egyptian) means "father-loving goddess". I mean the Egyptian rulers didnt just woke up one day and decided to pretend they are Greeks. Now, *If I recall correctly,* none of the Ptolemaic Dynasty ever got married to an Egyptian, none of this dynasty *ever* learned to speak the Egyptian language, they all spoke Greek and refused to learn Egyptian, Cleopatra was the first of her dynasty to learn to speak Egyptian, while she was also the last of her dynasty. All the above shout Egyptian (or non Greek) only to a total ....
True, in the past years I've heard people saying Cleopatra was black and some even tattooed Cleopatra or Egyptian iconography on them to hail her specifically as a black queen. I've never really cared back then...however now the truth will spread...talk about informing the masses by an "anti-documentary"
@@LadyClannadia I once had to convince a boyfriend’s mom that mermaids weren’t real but she insisted they were because she saw a Discovery channel (maybe History) “documentary” on mermaids! LOLLL the disclaimer was very small and only briefly flashed on the intro screen so it was easy to miss.
@@metatronyt I don't think Egyptians today consider themselves "black." I can't imagine how this pseudo-documentary upsets them since an ignorant outsider is blackwashing their history.
I just finished watching your video that included the story of the Candace-my first time on your channel. As a lover of both history and archaeology and all things ancient, I wish I could give multiple thumbs up every time. And thanks for the laughs-I do love a little snark.
It's beyond reasonable logic that basically everyone everywhere agrees with Metatron, but they end up demonetizing the channel. This kind of channel should be every sponsors dream.
There is logic behind their actions. They want to control the information. They want to control knowledge. They want to censor everyone with a different opinion (most of the times the correct opinion). They want to control your thoughts and your life. (Do you think I am exaggerating? .....Think about it.)
don't bother trying to apply logic to youtube, it's been run by complete idiots for years case in point : they do all their creator contact through twitter.... someone elses fucking website.
Grazie Metatron per quello che stai facendo, grazie di resistere. Anche io sono un Italiano che fa(ceva) il divulgatore scientifico, e ho lavorato, e lavoro tutt'ora negli USA e in Canada come autore e giornalista. L'atmosfera che si è respirata in questi anni è tossica a dir poco, e la censura è una realtà inconfutabile. Io ho preferito farmi da parte piuttosto che subire la violenza di vedere imposta una sola opinione, un solo modo (assurdo) di vedere le cose, e subire a tutti gli effetti quella che è una censura mostruosa che ricorda molto quella di... certi personaggi del passato che alzavano il braccio di fronte una certa crocetta nera sbilenca su una bandierina rossa. Resistere da parte tua è un azione coraggiosa, e te ne sono grato personalmente, non solo per l'ottimo lavoro che hai sempre svolto, ma perchè questa è una battaglia per la libertà di espressione - battaglia che, ahimè, io ho scelto di perdere per mantenere la mia di famiglia cambiando lavoro. Stai avendo il coraggio che non ho avuto io, e per questo hai tutto il mio rispetto e la mia empatia.
Wow, è incredibile che tu sia stato (praticamente costretto) ad abbandonare quella che immagino fosse la tua passione. Mi dispiace molto per quello che ti è capitato ma, secondo me, non è troppo tardi per fare marcia indietro e riprendere in qualche modo la via che avevi scelto, perché credo che questo sia il momento di mostrare che tutto ciò che ci circonda non è così semplice. Ogni argomentazione deve essere sostenuta ed accompagnata da prove e fatti oggettivi. Forza e coraggio!
Torna in Europa allora (possibilmente non nel mondo anglosassone). Sono sicuro che le tue ricerche saranno molto apprezzate. Non c'è più sordo di chi non vuole ascoltare, giusto?
I love and appreciate your videos I thank you so much for putting all of your hard work up front for everyone to see. I share your videos very often.❤ great work!
What are they making up? They do not claim Cleopatra was black, but think she likely had some Egyptian or Persian blood as well as Macedonian. This is from the Netflix site: "As Egypt's last pharaoh, Cleopatra fights to protect her throne, family and legacy in this docudrama featuring reenactments and expert interviews." "
One important thing that is missing from this conversation, is that Egyptian whether in ancient days or today, are not Black. Africa is a huge continent, and North Africans have nothing to do with sub-saharian Africans, especially West Africa where majority of Black American originated from.
This. Africa is the largest single continent on earth, and it's always been diverse. People in West Africa have as much connection to Egypt as Norwegian people have to Turkey. When Netflix does this stuff they are just proving that they don't know anything about Africa or African history.
After ALL the LIES and HISTORY you have changed ESAU? SERIOUSLY? JADA IS A JACKAZZZ. With that said, Esau, you have rewritten history of every continent. TRUE brown Yisrael were located in greece. They were called Grecians and Greeks! So, your so called Cleopatra was probably brown or a Negro mix at the least. It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The definition of Ham above tells us t things: 1. The TRUE egyptian is a dark brown skin tone. 2. The TRUE people of Yisrael are brown also, not caucasoid. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted in the those lands, PERIOD. Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations. Also, if she is greek, why in the heck are you FAKE egyptians crying about it???????
It's worse than that. The producers and contributers think Africa = black but also that all blacks are the same and basically interchangeable. How much does a Trinidadian have in common with a Somalian ?
Apparently you have never seen the paintings inside the pyramids. They are black and brown people. They most certainly are not white. Who paints themselves a different color? The level of ignorance here is staggering!
The sad part is all the comments here prove racism ...there is no such thing as black and it proves people are calling people black based on phenotype..proving racism is still alive and well ...and the ugly legacy of colonization lives on. African americans are the descendants of Africans...Egypt is on the continent of Africa 😂😂😂 Cleopatra is African . What makes a person African ...thier phenotype? ..then my friend you are indeed a racist ..you basing someone's " race" based on their physical characteristics rather than actual ethnicity...so is Mariah Carey black or white .....????? I guess white based on the logic in the comment section trying to argue about a concept that's rooted on observable appearance rather than genetics and actual science. The fact that Egypt is African sitting smack dab in the Continent of Africa ..proves my point ..people aren't mad because they are concerned by historical accuracy..people are mad because of racism. To fight to prove Egypt isn't African ..the question is Why? If Elizabeth Taylor can play Cleopatra...anyone can. We should just change the map and put Egypt in Europe so everyone is happy
I can’t wait for the NETFLIX documentary series on Nelson Mandela. I hear that Edgar Winter has been slated to portray Nelson and Danny Devito is being cast as Winnie. Should be epic.
I can't get over how funny it is that they wanted to do an inclusive version of Cleopatra, acted like it was a documentary, while still having the Romans be played by Northern Europeans
thank you for being a thorn in the side of the identitarian marxist loons, david. these idiots would call me racist for detesting this revisionism because I'm french, yet I am northern mediterranean and often get north africans approaching me and engaging me in conversation, to which I respond "I'm sorry, I don't speak arabic". in the same vein, I get mistaken for *greek* and israeli.. or egyptian.
@@michelguevara151 "Marxist loons" Way to inject antisemitism into this without it having to be here at all. You just gave massive amounts of ammunition to the people supporting this tripe of a show.
Technically speaking for og Marxists identity politics and the woke movement are pure American mambo jambo since according to their ideology identity politics is the way of the ruling class to create artificial divisions and followers If they are close to something That is the nazis
Well, you are correct for some things. Other things are grey and depend on the personal views on topics. In general since a few years "my truth" is the same with: I just tell lies and if I am called out I come up with this excuse. So yes, I agree with you that in the days we live this phrase is just bullshit. However, that doesn't mean that there is "one truth" for everything.
Generally anything out of the USA is complete nonsense. Their education system is dreadful. And because their society is dominated by money, truth goes to the highest bidder. Want to "prove" your new drug works , simply pay the government and the media, and your drug is super-effective.
As someone who is really into the end of the Roman Republican period and the Battle of Actium, I thought I’d give this series I try despite disapproving of the race swap. I made it about 15 minutes into the first episode before I switched it off, just around the time the talking heads were explaining why it’s odd we think of Cleopatra as being European. Despite the fact she was born into a Macedonian dynasty famous for it’s habit of marrying brothers to sisters to maintain its bloodline. I almost shouted the screen “are you listening to yourselves?”.
Yes they are, and that’s the problem. They are listening to themselves and ONLY to themselves. The only reason they made this documentary is because they like the sound of their own voices repeated back to them in their personal echo chambers.
You know, if people want more “diverse” historical documentaries, why not tell the story of people and places outside of Europe? It’s really that simple.
@@motivatedvergil9145 European Descent, but still Egyptian. And Egypt is in Africa. But I guess you can include Europe as the Mediterranean is half Europe anyways.
UPDATE! Monetization is back! You did it Noble ones! I think the Twitter pressure, the views, plus Shad's video did it. I was given direct contact with the ad sense team, and they put monetization back. I calculated how much revenue I lost these 4 days, it's a lot, but the donations covered that completely and surpassed it. So now, I'm officially independently funded, and thanks to you I can keep posting even if they do this again. Will they? Not sure. Should I remove this upload on Cleopatra to be safe? NOT A CHANCE. This video stays. Onward onto the next battle. Some haters rejoiced of my demonetization and hoped I would stop speaking. Your support and donations turned me into armoured Metatron. Armoured Metatron cannot be silenced.
Metatron invicta
So happy to hear 🎉❤
So happy to hear that. God bless you immensely Metatron!
Grande! Stavo cercando un modo per supportarti ma sfortunatamente ho ... parecchi problemi a livello economico, attualmente. Sono felice per te!
thats amazing, armored metatron will never be defeated
Thank you for watching, so we don't have to.
We need to appreciate the commitment for historical accuracy 👏
Took a bullet for us all
Perhaps more importantly, we who benefit from the Metatron's sacrifice, also don't run up NetFlix' stats.
A True Warrior!!!
Exactly! I use to have Netflix, but I drop it about 5 years ago, as I could no longer support their immoral and perverse content. Watching the Metatron educating and entertaining videos is 100 times better than Netflix. That is why I joined his "army" this week.
As an archeology student this is really painful when people just deliberatly ignore the facts
Her feelings don't care about your facts.
Ignoring the facts and claiming to be a documentary turns my dials to 11.
That's how I feel about WW2 all the time.
Then do your field a solid and don't buy like 85% of what they're teaching you in school because archaeology is pretty much a lolcow being used to push agendas these days
Her grandma's hunch overrides your years of study, because "equity".
I remember renowned egyptologists saying to me: I don't care what your grandma tells you, *Cleopatra wasn't black.*
She was yellow
@Robert Ågren all depictions have her has a pale skinned ginger , which makes sense since at that time the Celts were still abundant in places other than the modern UK
@@robertagren9360 She was white
I thought she was green.
@robertagren9360 She was Greek. So she was white
“Personal truth isn’t truth unless it aligns with Fact.”____ Metatron
… perfect.
The thing is, that we have lost sight of what that actually means. Personal truths arent supposed to run contra to fact. They're opinion based.
Or something like "Jesus is my savior" is a personal truth... it doesnt mean the Earth is flat, simply because the person believes in Jesus. Something like "Jesus is my savior" and science can be held simoultaniously, not being mutually exclusive to each other. To that person, anyhow.
So "Cleopatra was Black" isnt a "Personal truth", it's a declaration of stupidity.
Netflix is proud to say that no Egyptians were used to make this film...
This.
ayyy lmao
ohhh bullseye
"No Egyptians were represented in the making of this film" 😂😂
There was one. Maybe they couldn't get others.
As a black African, I need to just say that this need to “re-represent” everything is a black AMERICAN phenomenon. Us here on the continent know full well that Egyptians look very different from sub-Saharan Africans. In fact, we know that most of them identify as Arabs and not necessarily “Africans”.
They identify as Arabs because they were conquered by Arabs. Native North Africans are not Arab, they are light skinned Africans
Such a huge continent… so many cultures and (sorry, in lack of a better word) shades…
It‘s a bit like depicting Seattle like San Antonio (or vice versa), or Scots like Italians…
Producers in Los Angeles see the black community as a bunch of orfan kids that can't connect with any media unless it has black people on it... that disconnected mentality is causing all this travesty of the word "representation".
Yes, black Americans seem to have a serious pathological need to "see themselves" in cultures that have nothing to do with them.
Yep. Just like ounces and inches, it doesn't make sense when they apply it outside U.S.A.
After the black Vikings, black Romans, and black Cleopatra, I'm waiting for the next project about the black Yin dynasty in China.
The Vikings, Romans, and Cleopatra are of Western origin. Blacks live in the West. The Yin dynasty is eastern. Don't get it twisted.
What happened to your comment? Why did you deleted?
@@AfricanMaverickI mean, there would be people of African descent who would find themselves somewhere far away, like Scandinavia, Normandy, Dalmatia, the Peloponnese or even Asia Minor/Anatolia. That doesn't mean that Africans are, in any case, the majority within said regions. Same case with the east (Iran, Kurdistan, Iraq, Syria et cetera) or the far east (China, Korea, Tibet, Thailand etc.).
@@AfricanMaverick While a few black folks may have gotten to these places the predominant people were pale skinned not dark skinned. African has some great heros to tell stories of, go find some of those and leave the western history the way it was.
Only problem with that is that the CCP wouldn't stand for it.
My main issue with this documentary is not about who plays Cleopatra. It's that they legittimately used "my grandma used to say" as a reliable source. In a documentary.
You're telling me that, when making a DOCUMENTARY, you use your grandma's words as a source? Without something to back her up?
It's a black thing. I had the same type of argument with a black female friend who claimed her grandmother was the sole survivor of a massacre in my home province. I asked her to tell me more I want to look it up because I never heard of any such attack in my province and she got angry and said 'not everything that happened is written down"
@@zentodale😂😂
@@zentodalethe survivors would write it down, the people doing the attacking would note it down. Particularly if it's any time past the 18th century because things like that are expensive and hard to cover up
They are not allowing us Egyptian people to tell our own history- Bassem Youssef , Egyptian comedian
Unless your grandma is a prominent historian, egyptologist and scholar, you should take her ideas with a grain of salt, one would hope.
Maybe Netflix should do "historic" series about Wakanda next?
And then some """"historic""""" series about Asgard?
Hey there is a documentary about ancient aliens and one about dragons
Starring all Eastern Europeans as Wakandans 😄
Wakanda the most advanced, noblest, wisest, and overall bestest of bests, civilization ever in the history of the universe... until da white man ruined it.
Or Atlantis... Wait, they did??? And it's worse?
Pretty much every egyptian in the show is depicted as black. Its not just that they were claiming Cleopatra was black, they clearly want to present Egypt as a black civilization. Oh and i love that they try to give her credit for the Julian calendar.
Want too? They actually believe this idiocracy.
@@Stephen85 the point of all these shows is that within a decade they will be used as teaching materials.
It's not only cultural appropriation, it's the appropriation of a country's entire cultural heritage and history, purely to serve an ideological fantasy. Disgusting.
I just want to know how many people who made this film met anyone from Egypt.
It's cultural appropriation of the whole continent by rich Americans because they are desecendents of West-Africans, who have hardly any cultural or genetic ties to North-east Africa.
In 100 years:
Metatron was an Inuit.
He lived on the American continent where there also were Inuit and native American settlements.
Maybe at some point some Europeans (who are central asiatic of course) also came there but the natives were there earlier and therefore prevalent.
Also he wore leather bands.
At least metatron is dark haired and darked eyed, so not a huge ddifference here 😂😂😂😂
Don't forget the bracers, he regularly wore armor so he must wear bracers
As an Egyptian, I really want to thank you for all the effort you do to defend the truth and with it our history, even your channel got demonetized and you still making videos... YOU ARE A HERO!
Don't worry, some of us have loved your culture our entire lives, and passed that love down to our children. To make up for not having cable, I would tape documentaries on ancient Egypt at work to bring home for my daughter to watch. She won't fall for this B.S re-writing of history by an extremely arrogant, greatly disliked woman like Jada Pinkett Smith! The fact that she, the initiator of the slap heard around the world, had ANYTHING to do with it should tell any thinking person that its NOT be taken seriously.
It's blatantly wrong what they're doing. Attempting to rewrite Egyptian history and steal your culture and identity is absolutely evil.
@@vanadians3819 ❤❤❤❤❤
out of all the countries I've visited, I found Egypt by far the most interesting. Thank you bro, and of course Metatron for respecting authentic history and culture. btw looking at your username, are you actually Rami Malek ? haha loved that show
@@cyberedge881 As long as there are people like you and me, they will never be able to do that.
My wife is Greek and one of the unfortunate things we see about her culture is misrepresentation. Thank you for making this and giving correct historical information.
Well, yeah, because if we're going to be depicted, it's either going to be fully Nordic-looking or African people. Nothing between these two. As if we're not Mediterranean. And even the minority of blondes we have isn't unique in appearance.
@@Pan472 Next up the brand new documentary about Socrates, played by Mike Tyson.
And with a British accent
Culturally
Cleopatra was Egyptian
Ethnically she was Inbred and Greek
that honestly doesn't even make sense. how can such a historic culture be misrepresented so much. way too many sources that it doesn't even make sense to "rewrite" it🤨
Blackwashing Cleopatra is the definition of cultural appropriation
Yes, yes it is.
How did they do that? For one thing, Adele James' skin tone is a sort of medium light brown. She did not blackwash anything. No one in the documentary thinks Cleopatra was black.
@@patdaley9098 certified Bruh moment
@@patdaley9098 🤡🤡 Stop this clown show.
@@deanjustdean7818 I'd like to comment to that lady:"If your grandma is so smart, why are you here?"
Thanks. I learned more about Cleopatra and Egypt from this one video than the entire million-dollar Netflix series
So if I imagined Cleopatra as a middle aged male bearded Scottish ginger - it must mean it is true now, right?
Only if your grandma says it is
@@ratdog6317what if he identifies as a grandma
Like so many, you obviously didn't actually watch the docudrama, since you don't know what's in it!
@patdaley9098 Most people that know the actual history don't want to watch it because it's full of bs, and you obviously didn't pay attention when you watched it because I've seen several clips online where they specifically say that she is black. If the actress being black didn't tell you that, the lady that said "she's black because my grandmother told me so" tells you that they were trying to make it seem like she was. If they were going to make a dramatic documentary about the life of Cleopatra, they should have at least done it right and did proper research. Her being the wrong race is not even the only problem with it, there's many others, like the romans wearing stuff that they've never even wore back then. That whole fiasco is offensive to multiple groups of people, especially Egyptians, and just plain disrespectful to Cleopatra.
transginger
As an Egyptian I thank you for using your precious time on something not-so-precious and clearing up what is already apparent. I applaud you for your hard work :)
Egyptian history is absolutely precious. Beyond the amazing stories and architecture, no other country can connect us with our very distant past quite like Egypt. Without the Rosetta Stone, how would we have known about Babylon and Sumer? How could we have translated cuneiform and learned about Gilgamesh? What other nation fought off the Sea Peoples and actually won?
There will always be people trying to erase the past in the name of their cause. We cannot allow this.
He’s talking like a European though… He can’t recognise facial and racial features of Egyptians and is trying to undertone the fact that Egyptians like most North Africans were Mediterranean. He himself can pass as an Egyptian if he speaks in Egyptian Arabic, ironically enough. He’s from Sicily and with clear North African heritage
@Ahmed Sejini That’s what I’m saying. It wasn’t black. It was Mediterranean with a caucasian majority of North African variety and a degree of mixing with Sudanese who themselves were mixed with Caucasians and were definitely not West African in appearance
@@AlexIncarnate911 yeah and? what your problem? We are european mainly because of shared culture. Yeah the white race isnt completly seperate from all others. Middle easterners are from very very close to middle close. But what makes the line is culture. No south italian or south spain or greek will care if hes 10% moor or arab or ottoman they are all white.
@@AlexIncarnate911 and also its not like he doesnt want to be a part of you its the reverse. Europe and the whole mediteranian were once one civilisation. Roman and christian.
Since islam that changed. I should mention though that all places conquered by the muslims except anatolia didnt have the indo european influence from before.
But anyways you guys got conquered but we continued our civilisation and legacy.
Saying "my truth" as a form of defense for an argument is the same as saying "I pretend that ... and you have to agree."
Mind if I steal that? thanks.
There are somee areas wherre it's a valid argument. Historical record is not any of them.
Yeah, the phrase "my truth" just gives them more pretend validity then the actual truth of their statements, which would be "my opinion". Total BS this new phraseology. Seriously just manipulative for weak minded people.
@@a-blivvy-yus None whatsoever. Anyone saying that is basically conveying that they're delusional.
"My Truth"....I hate when people say that. There's the objective 'truth' that is true for everyone and then there's....no, actually, thats it. There's only the objective truth. Anything outside that is subjective interpretation. It doesn't change the objective truth as that is unchangeable, so when anyone says "This is my truth" they're saying "This is my subjective interpretation of the objective truth that differs from the unchangeable objective truth because I want to believe it's different for personal reasons and thus I'm cherry picking facts and distorting the truth because it's convenient for my personal opinion"
As a black person, we need to go and learn our history from Africa to America before jumping into other people's history. That nonsense on Netflix was so bad from acting, to costume and makeup everything was trash.
The rest of us wish we could forget Africa exists.
That's the catch 22 though.
If black people in America learned more about Africa, their entire victim narrative surrounding slavery dissolves to ashes since it was Africans and Arabs doing the slave trade, not whites. The additional notes that whites had debt and war reasons that lead into getting involved in the slave trade (thanks as a direct byproduct of Arab and African colonization in Europe) only makes the case for the narrative even worse lol
If it can't reinforce the narrative of white man bad, it will never be taught. Especially to the black community.
It's white people that make this nonsense happen ironically. Every time they pull this stunt they're ignoring real archeology and anthropology south of the sahara that could be looked at.
@@chrismaher8084 same for Europe 😂
@@theblackmonk3153 If you guys went back instead of setting up shop in your captors country and begging for handouts we could solve both our problems.
The absolutely mad man is not only suffering demonetisation, he also suffered through arguably the worst show of this decade to give us the information. We have respect this geeza
This Giza
i saw what you did there...
What are you trying to say, mate? It's not clear. This guy is a showman, not mad.
The Witcher season 2 exist
@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96 Oh trust me it was.
As a book fan, it was....something else. At least Rings of Power wasn't a adapting a actual book, so they had a tiny amount of excuse to explain their horrible mangling of Tolkien's world. But then Witcher season 2 wasn't exactly a "adaptation".
I think the reason the Romans are wearing green tunics was because the costume designer's reference was the Asterix comic books. And that probably still made him the most factually knowledgeable about Rome and Egypt out of everyone working on this 'documentary'.
😁☺
😂😂😂😂😂
You give the designer too much credit with Asterix as a source...
It's unknown, that's the issue with ancient history. Julius Caesar private army in asterix wear green clothes. Just like Darth vader private army wear white armor.
They going to tip on someone's toes by underdevelop their history.
Yes it is possible, plausible to been mass produced because medieval age is as well history. Colors yellow, red and black were used. It's not like people hit their head so hard that all knowledge was lost.
LOL! very good!
This whole mockumentary seemed like an ego project on the part of Jada. Apparently it's okay if the current accepted thought leaders are allowed to make revisions to history while if any of us provide sources to dispute them is considered whatever ism they wish to use.
It is painful to realize that that's actually true
@@MrFirecasters 6 million tears were shed
Wrong thought will be punished. Straight out of 1984, Red Guard China and Lenin and Stalin's Russia.
Exactly! The double standards are horrendous in today's culture.
Yes it very clearly was an ego trip on jadas part. It's clear she thinks herself superior and a black queen but because she's so ignorant and instead of making a documentary about actual black queens she appropriated a famous one and retconned her to be black with the most loose theories to back her claims up.
My book has Nefertiti as as a vampire queen after she disappears form history.... so far that looks more historically accurate than this.
I want to read that actually,
I'm 5 months late, so i doubt you'll answer, but its still worth a try.
“We shouldn’t assume that she looked like a white European” therefore we should imagine she looked like a black American.
@@deetee4403 yes. It’s pretty cringe that Hollywood has only used Anglo actors to play ancient people for the last 100 years. It’s even more cringe to look at that and think “we need more diverse representation!” and starting making them all black lol
@@deetee4403 Would you be in the comment section commenting if he said "“We shouldn’t assume that she looked like a Black American” therefore we should imagine she looked like a White European."? I would assume not, seems you are in the same boat as him.
@@deetee4403 as a Greek man, I do and I would lol. I’m assuming they fucked up Caesar as well, and if so I do find that annoying. But this film wasn’t made to “correct” his race was it?
Well, more accurately, a "British black".
Also, Cleopatra was Macedonian GREEK, meaning she had European blood. Why does Jada insists Cleopatra was black? Talk about delusional. She needs to go to a mental hospital.
"Expect a lot of swearing" - and then exceptionally polite and correct speech, as usual. Bait of an intelligent person.
And "bitch" isn't even a swearword. It's a vulgarity.
Yep, where I’m from it’s called “ghetto” 😂
@@caulkins69literally the same
He was swearing in his mind 😂
@@drutalero2962 No. Swearing or cursing invokes the metaphysical--God, hell, damnation, etc. Today swearing has largely been supplanted by vulgarity.
I think I vomited a little when the line "her truth" was said.
This has always been code for "My delusion is better than reality".
"I reject reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage. What a visionary. That time it was funny! Now? It's concerning.
Is a pattern of speech typical of feminine mental pathology; masculine ones on the other hand are more like 'Is True admit it or die, is the aliens!; they are real!'. Femenine sick people don't have enough open agressive behaviour to them to say 'My opinion is superior to yours' so they say 'is my truth'.
@@Sekir80it really was a prophetic line thrown in jest.
People only say "my truth" when they are lying.
Perhaps in particular because; HOW in the Sweet unrelenting Hypersonic FUCK can you claim it IS the truth of a woman who's been dead for over a 2000 years.
Then of course you realize that the whole term "My/Her/Their truth" Literally means " an entirely biased and not necessarily fact checked or evidenced base telling of a story usually told more for political and social reasons rather than the interest in posterity"
It sickens me that no one is allowed to tell the truth anymore
yes because in western culture the people get offended and in russia and china you going to jail (mostly, or even worse tortured) and finally in most arabic countrys you get killed. But it was similar back then but not as extreme.Apparently people hated Jesus because he told the truth.
Truth, what is that?
Exactly people's hatred for black people is clouding their judgment. No one truly knows what Cleopatra looked like, but it's not a far stretch that she could have been medium to dark. Afterall, she was mixed due to her parents. People really want to pretend fair skin & dark skin biracials (who are half-black) don't exist. That's the very definition of racism, judging someone based on their skin tone.
They are not allowing us Egyptian people to tell our own history- Bassem Youssef , Egyptian comedian
‘Historian’: “Everyone can imagine Cleopatra in their own way”
Me: “Sure, they CAN, but what does the actual evidence say? Just because someone CAN imagine her in a certain way doesn’t mean they’re CORRECT.”
Historical fantasy has no place in a documentary. The same way that Game of Thrones or Lord of The Rings aren't historical, the same way that 300 and its sequel aren't historical, this so-called documentary would have been much better off being a work of fiction inspired by Egyptian history.
Yes, there is a massive difference between "can" and "should" and these people need to learn it.
Like Santa Claus, I guess.
We literally have her face on coins...
@@3brenm yes, so I’ve heard, but this guy doesn’t care about that. He just wants to push propaganda
“But few know the real woman, and her truth”… and now with this “documentary” that number is even fewer.
The Time Machine that Stephen Hawking bequeathed to Netflix is paying off big time.
This documentary is like if people actually believed Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter.
@@hariman7727 That was not a documentery?
On the other hand, this stupid show made scores of people actually look into Cleopatra's real story. It also made it clear, at least for anyone with two functional neurons, that afrocentrism is just another form of racism. Black people both in Africa and the US recognize it instantly as such and that's why they 're mocking it all over the net.
@@garyrudolph-hp9up I wish there was a ten star like. I would give it to this comment.
I died when the lady said my grandmother said she was black. That is equal to trust me ,bruh.. 🤦♀️
Not even "trust me, bro" But "trust my gran, bro".
They actually _dishonestly butchered her statement through editing._ This _honest researcher_ immediately followed that up by saying "granny didn't know, and she was wrong."
*These people are honorless scumbags.*
@@Xbalanque84 do you the the clip, by chance? Hate how easy it is to manipulate people's words with editing.
“My source is I made it the f*ck up!”
I don't care what they told you in school, Abraham Lincoln was two eskimoes in a trench coat.
Even if Cleopatra was a native Egyptian, the chances of her looking like she came from Nigeria or Senegal would have been negligible.
The actress is biracial and does not look like she is from Nigeria or Senegal.
@@amenajackson8133 She does look like she's got a lot of sub-Saharan African in her.
Maybe if she has egyptian blood
@@amenajackson8133 I think you missed the point.
@@amenajackson8133 even if the actress is biracial, you cannot deny the fact that the "Cleopatra" movie is trying to "blackwash" her being black. Cleopatra is not black. She is half-Macedonian. Period.
Ditched Netflix years ago due to the poor programming, and all the inaccurate nonsense they peddle... thanks for calling this BS out.
The only reason we still have netflix is my girlfriend likes the K-dramas. But we recently found an alternative app so will be ditching netflixs next month. Everything coming out of the west is pure crap these days.
@J W
The globalists who rule the West are Woke Marxists. Entertainment they produce is nothing but a vehicle for their political propaganda. It's garbage. Nay, it's worse than garbage.
We mostly watch foreign films and series in my household, too.
@@jw841 Which app? I am about to the point of ditching Netflix myself. A a related note, does anyone know if Vimeo monetizes? Maybe we could/should see a shift away from TH-cam too.
@@jw841 Have you seen Mr. Sunshine? It is incredibly over-the-top, but still a beautifully emotional period piece romance.
i never went with netflix because of the cutie thing which is pure noncery, you should had drop netflix from there since protecting kids is as important as protecting truth
As a Greek woman, like Cleopatra, I thank and salute you. 🫡
Although Cleopatra was Macedonian, white-skinned Egyptians are predominantly of West Asian origin. It doesn't change the fact that the indigenous Nilotes of the Nile Valley were the darkest Nilotes. Migrations from West Asia into Africa began 20,000 years ago. This implies that the indigenous people were the blacks who remained in the Nile Valley.
@@AfricanMaverick what the hell has to do everything you say with the Greek Cleopatra and the Greeks of Alexandria who were ruling the Greek egypt and all the foreners??? nothing. You say NOTHING!
Ancient Macedonians were as much Greek as Irish are English.
@@giannastavros4653 What are you arguing about?
I'm just an American person
Imagine, if my German great-grandfather would have told me: "No matter, what they'll tell you at school..." 😱😅
And he would have been right
@@psier11NO
"That guy with the mustache was a hero"
@@AsmaTheTeaPot The hero is who wins the war, despite being wrong or right. Stalins killed much more people than the mustached one.
@@wildchild1823 nah, if germany won the war, they are still gonna be the bad guys, and there are still gonna be people who are gonna fight them 2 or 20 years in the future. Dumb people are the ones who believe that whoever wins the war is the hero.
A young Egyptian girl expressed her thoughts at having her culture twisted and manipulated to fit someone else's narrative and boy, did that poor kid get some awful hate from the most ignorant and ill informed group of people to ever make a comment on You Tube and I've read comments from flat earthers. 🤦♀️
We need people like you to keep telling the facts
You will be surprised how racist and awful low iq people like them can be.
Hey, her truth does not matter, because everyone who disagrees on these topics with black people is clearly a racist. /s
in age of ideology stating facts is a crime.
I saw her too, it was so sad that a young women who don't have anything to do with the biased black and white ideology in America is getting so much hate. I am Greek and I live in Greece, people here or in other continents don't want anything to do with this almost race war what is happening in America
that's because flat earthers are just stupid in general these people are cultural vandals so they are far worse.
“I remember my Grandmother saying to me ... I don’t care what they teach you at school, Cleopatra was black.” Granny forgot her meds again LOL
I imagine she said that about 100s of people. So the next one will be a documentary on black Genghis Khan. Because Granny said so.
Granny probably never said anything of the kind. Imagine exploiting your grandmother for clout. Pathetic.
@@gnostic268 Some grannies say that though, my granny def said that. i have no idea where they got the idea from, i think she watched too many michael jackson videos
@@CornNation well since none of you mofos ever met Cleopatra ?.
@@juliansearcie1758 ah, I forgot afro centrists invented time travel and personally met all these black historical figures.
Thanks for the remind.
You wuz scientists and shieeeeet
Don't those people know that the ancient Egyptians actually have TONS of artwork depicting THEMSELVES HOW THEY LOOKED!
And the further thing is Cleopatra was a Greek cosplaying Egyptian. Sigh.
@@RebeccaOrenot even that in non religious depictions she is usually seen as greek
The Egyptians typically painted representations of themselves with light brown skin, somewhere between the fair-skinned people of the Levant and the darker Nubian people to the south.
They grasp at the 4 or 5 Egyptian wall paintings showing black people without any context of what those paintings represent (they're slaves, vassals, and captured enemies). And they latch onto the 25th dynasty of Nubian origin claiming all the dynasties were like that.
@@kavky well just because the king is black doesn't mean the average citizen is black as well
My mother said that Cleopatra was a gay ginger Norwegian cross-dressing midget. This is my truth.
Just so you know, I found your channel because others shared your ‘Emergency Upload’ video yesterday, and I subscribed and have binge-watched a bunch of your videos, so despite TH-cam dicking you around, it led this girl to discovering a great channel :)
Thank you and welcome
@@metatronyt Hi Met, what happened to you weight training? You still look like you've got spaghetti arms!
@@sirvivor7835 He got married. Now the weight gains happen in the mid-body. 😁
@@sirvivor7835 oh, that's just the light waves being bent around his biceps due to their mass warping the fabric of spacetime. Anymore training and his triceps will break their own Schwarzschild radius.
“I imagine she looked like me”
You simply cannot reason with these people
Like trying to debate science with religious nuts.
As much as I hate him losing the ad money, seeing Metatron this unhinged is an amazing experience.
They wanted to silence him. They forgot that killing the hostage means you get shot dead. Why would he censure himself anymore since they already took his money away.
Its amazing what passes as expertise these says. "My grandma said" and "if i want Cleopatra to look like me, she did" are not actual scientific positions. They laid their cards out on the table and showed this was made for strictly ideological reasons
“I imagine her to look like me :)” and that right there is the heart of the issue. People make themselves the center of the universe-their interests, their emotions, their issues, their experience. It’s frightening to me that they think being unable to empathize with someone who doesn’t look like them is a GOOD thing. Plus ffs, could you BE more immature and self-absorbed???
"I imagine her to look like me" - Its like Jesus image, he 80% wasn't white as he was more probably arab like.
People can imgine to themselves whatever they want, it doesn't mean everyone should get along with it
This is a problem that is starting to become more frequent and it’s honestly quite disturbing. It’s the equivalent of someone kidnapping an influential figure and surgically altering their pigmentation just so that they can satisfy their severe insecurities and finally make their inspiration look their the ethnicity they want.
Even if they just had a disclaimer at the start that said something like “ we recognize that the actress for cleopatra has a darker complexion then would be historically accurate. However, no other actress we could find was able to embody her personality and character the way she could, and as historians , we have decided that it’s more important to accurately depict her personality and character rather then accurately depict skin tone, we have no intention of erasing the Egyptian identity or spreading misinformation “ I would have had so much more respect for them if they said that. But no they genuinely didn’t give a single shit about historical accuracy. They used conspiracy grandma as their source when one of the most accomplished experts in the feild offered to help and they rejected him.
@@ulfberht4431 Michael Jai White said something similar in a Vlad interview a few years back when he was talking about the Buddhist monk Bodidharma who traveled to China and brought martial arts to the Shaolin Temple and trained the monks there in physical exercises to improve their health but also as a form of self defense.... Now Bodidharma according to historical records was clearly from India, so he was Indian.... But what does Michael Jai White say in the interview ? "a person who looks like me, my skin colour and my hair"
There's a weird trend among Americans in general, to claim culture and history that is not theirs... Black Americans have entire movements and even religions dedicated to it like The Nation of Islam and The Black Hebrew movement.... But even among white Americans like the KKK make such claims about the Bible and how the US was the land promised to them by God and how they are descendents of the original Israelites... It's like that country just has one big identity crisis going on and so they claim and try to steal other people's history and culture but hypocritically also crying about cultural appropriation
Im half Greek, half Japanese.
The fact that I, who definitely looks halfway between the two, is genetically closer to Cleopatra than this interpretation is hilarious to me.
Oh man, you got to be spoiled by Japanese AND Greek cuisine growing up? I'm so damn jealous!
@@The_Commandant You don't have to be of a certain nationality to eat food lol.
@@sanich0811 Yeah but often one gets the authentic versions and hidden gems if one actually has family from those cultures.
Damn, that’s a very cool mix
After ALL the LIES and HISTORY you have changed ESAU? SERIOUSLY?
JADA IS A JACKAZZZ.
With that said,
Esau, you have rewritten history of every continent.
TRUE brown Yisrael were located in greece. They were called Grecians and Greeks! So, your so called Cleopatra was probably brown or a Negro mix at the least.
It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The definition of Ham above tells us t things: 1. The TRUE egyptian is a dark brown skin tone. 2. The TRUE people of Yisrael are brown also, not caucasoid. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted in the those lands, PERIOD.
Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
Also, if she is greek, why in the heck are you FAKE egyptians crying about it???????
You took that bullet for us all.
Anytime someone says “my truth” or any variant of it, it’s code for “everything I’m about to say is highly questionable, but you better not call me out or I will cry.”
the creators of this had to literally admit that it's not even a documentary. they wanted to have a new take on cleopatra and put a reimagined version of her. that was literally they're whole excuse for making her african
So much of this bs could've been avoided if they weren't dumb enough to call it a documentary, and instead advertised it as a docu-drama or historical fiction.
@@AD-dg3zzexactly, its like how in Bridgerton's queen Charlotte was depicted as a black woman. I don't care since it's fictional and they're not trying to go for the realistic angle that much. they've got glitter everywhere and some of the songs are instrumental versions of Ed Sheeran's songs, so a black Charlotte doesn't mean much to me lol
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@@afrog2666 ya got me
They said it was a documentary, then when people pointed out that it's incredibly historically inaccurate they said "oh, but it isn't really a documentary. It's a reimagining of history"
As a historian, my friend, you should know by now that the most dangerous thing one can do is saying the truth. Keep on going Metatron.
Saying the truth is only dangerous as long as you have some weird need to put food on the table and pay rent.
" as long as she doesn't look European"
This statement sums up the entire thing quite well. Always figured Pinkett Smith thought of herself as a queen but I didnt realize she was a full out Kween.
Manda msg
She does have a rather high opinion of herself.
If we really want to obsess with how she looks, it seems mainland Greeks from 600 Bc-100 AD genetically were more similar to Modern day Sardinians. Extremely high Neolithic Anatolian Farmer dna. Modern Greeks having an influx of Zagros Neolithic farmer dna and Natufian Hunter Gatherer dna, from the Middle East, and European Hunter Gatherer from the slavs who came in within the last 1000 years. So it seems Sardinians are the closest genetically to ancient Southern Europeans, with Spaniards being second
@@danielalbo3781sardinians sounds like fish like people lol
@@spinosaurusstriker lol, yea I guess. Just a people from an island on the Mediterranean that have been influenced the least by Middle Eastern and Northern European people, thus, coincidentally making them the genetically closest to ancient Greeks
Hey Metatron just wanted to wish you luck with the whole TH-cam situation and thank you for continuing to entertain us during this difficult time!
"If i'm wrong and they have a reason, i'm more than happy to learn from them"
As someone who only recently has found a passion for hystory I love this line so much. As I have learned I have made assuptions and later learned I was wrong. I have always been happy to learn I was wrong since I was able to learn something new. I love this guys attitude to these things so much.
*Critiques the Cleopatra show on historical grounds*
*Experiences demonetization*
*Doubles down on the same show*
Way to go Metatron! Objectivity and truth comes first. Regardless if the demonetization was malicious or not.
It clearly was malicious. This is what big tech always does because they can't debate the truth.
Oh, it was malicious. Believe it.
YT supports historical lies and cultural appropriation.
@@cyberherbalist I try to not believe anything just because I'm inclined to. But it's likely!
Commenting for algorithm. Cheers Bruv
They could’ve avoided all of this controversy just by saying it’s “historically inspired” fiction.
"Based on a true story"
Which still means it's basically all lies.
Which they didn’t want to, because it’s a tacit admission they’re making shit up
That's legitimately what I thought it was at first - especially since "Grandma" was among the cited sources...then I slowly realized it wasn't...
I'd still hate it and it would still be some shot at Europeans anyway.
I absolutely hate it when someone says something like "I'm speaking my truth" or "We're telling her truth" because what that says to me is "I'm not speaking facts, I'm spinning my own narrative based on my own personal feelings and/or biases." Amber Heard said she was "speaking her truth", and we all know how THAT panned out...
I agree. Also con artists like Meagain and Hairy. Nothing to do with the truth.
I understand your concern, although I'd caution against hating this phrase because people co-opted it from the mental health field. It's used a lot when patients don't have or no longer have evidence of abuse they have suffered and are being gaslit over it happening at all. Lots of trauma therapists use this phrase, so it wouldn't surprise me if they heard a genuine victim say the phrase and then try to use that phrase as a way to further gaslight others. Sad, but not unexpected from those who gaslight, since gaslighting is about control, not how much logical sense it makes. Just wanted to give my two cents as someone in the mental health field :)
This whole thing reminds me of the time ea was trying to claim people don't know their history. for one of their battlefield games. Only no, people know their history and ea was trying to replace real people with fictional characters. With ea never having heard of valkyria chronicles. A game that is basically yep this is a fictional setting base off ww2. For if you want to write fiction, label is as fiction and not the truth.
While here. I have to wonder if this netflix thing was born out of the idea of. You can only relate to people who look like you. a idea that seems rather common the past few years. Which tries to narrow down humanity to a bare bones level. Ignoring that many people relate to someone due to who they are, not what they are. For trying to rewrite history seems like a very selfish and self-centered thing to do.
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa
A lot of people I'd describe as parasitic self centered people use that phrase a lot.
It's how I know to avoid certain characters in this world.
@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa that's why I genuinely believe there is a fine distinction between "my" truth and "the" truth, because I've noticed that people have a tendency to believe what they want despite being practically slapped in the face with facts. It's a major issue, especially in today's political arena...but that's a whole other keg of nope I'd rather not address...lol
What I don't understand is this - if Black Africans were large parts of the population, in prominent positions of rulership ALL over these other cultures (Vikings, England, Egypt,....) how is it there is ZERO depiction of them in paintings, stories, pictures, documentaries, etc..?
Because according to those same people, somehow the "weaker, more inferior, inbred, unable to do anything themselves, unable to invent anything or create anything" white/arab/jewish/islandic/nordic/mexican/asian people defeated them and erased absolutely 100% of all possible saved history, then buried fake evidence of their culture to "get away" with somehow generations of lies... ya know, like a conspiricy theorist would say.... I swear these flat earthers just found another topic and it's this.
Like, what happened to these army wielding black people in medieval times? Surely they didn't just lay down their arms when chattel slavery took root, but since we have no record of a social war being fought over powerful families losing their wealth, power, and lands before being forced into slavery it must have been a peaceful transition
Unless Europe wasn't as politically diverse as Netflix would have us think
Racism...? They weren't depicted because of recism?😂
Egyptian images show four races: with Nubians (the nation next to them) being black and well known and respected for their warriorship. Also, 700-800 BC Egypt was ruled by blacks from the south. No argument. Then Alexander took over the Persian empire but become "pharaoh" first and then his general took over after he died and his dynasty rulled until this time (50 bc).
This is all well known by many sources with no dog int he race.
Also, they didn't have black VS white animosity at that time like we did now so totally American view point of an ancient period.
Dumb af.
Cleopatra was a real person not a fictional one, people can't just rewrite her being because they want her to be someone else. That is just disrespectful.
Well, you can, but it damn well better be labeled "speculative fiction" & "alternate history".... 😏
I'm 1000% for taking a second look at history as we know it, because a lot of historiography has definitely been carried out through a lens warped by the prejudices of the time? But this kind of "history as fanfic" approach does NOT help; it just adds yet more layers of misinformation 😣
Have you seen pictures of that Rabbi they call "Jesus", lately?
😉
You obviously missed the remake of Ann Boleyn which had the main character race swapped, and one of the other Boleyns as well. I'm waiting for them to be really brave and have a European mohammad.
@@Zett76 what pictures?
@@Zett76 Jesus is represented in multiple races. there's White Jesus, Black Jesus, Chinese Jesus, ext. I don't think Jesus would of cared. All he would of cared about is if his followers sit down and listened to what he had to say.
I'm glad that this project got the proper response and that people, both from Egypt and outside, united against it. Because obviously, if this 'documentary' succeeded, it would give them more space to alter other historical facts, especially in Africa, but it wouldn't surprise me if they'd eventually reach the American continent and claim that it was actually black.
They'd probably say that the Chinese were blacks too.
they have already done that.
Oh they already do. I've experienced this many times from black people online. I'm Native American with mostly Lakota ancestors with the exception of at least one Arikara female ancestor. There is no African DNA in Native people if they don't have black ancestors. However this doesn't stop certain black people from claiming that they are the real Indigenous people of the Americas and Native tribes are really just Asians who genocided black people who coincidentally were also living in Africa. Apparently, they built ships and traveled back and forth becausethey missed their cousins on orher continents but this is all a secret. LoL These black people grew all the indigenous foods that were later discovered by Europeans, too. Potatoes, tomatoes, pineapples, corn, and many more foods that were new to Europeans. All created by Indigenous people but certain American black people claim those too. They secretly brought the seeds back and forth across the Atlantic and everything was created by them but never used or grown or known about in Africa. It was all a big secret. Shhh! It's too convoluted to be understood 🙄 They have some kind of a mass psychosis that makes them create an imaginary history out of nonsense. This is what American propaganda has done because the U.S. has also created a "faux" history about "Pilgrims and building a new Jerusalem in the wilderness" as if there weren't millions of Native tribes living here originally. The same tribes which the govt made over 500 treaties with thereby acknowledging that various tribes owned the rights to the land and that the government needed the tribes to cede the land. They wanted to officially take possession of it and move the tribes to other territory and so on. So, black people in America are just doing what the U.S. govt has always done. Make up a story about a country and make it seem magical and heroic, throw in a little Manifest Destiny and a little patriotism and erase all the original inhabitants and presto! You have a whole country and a flag and it's amazing and powerful and built by Christian immigrants. Native people are described as "merciless Indian savages" in the Declaration of Independence so that takes care of them as having any moral high ground to object. Steal a continent and you can do and say anything. Now in 2023, Hollywood is re-colonizing Egypt and stealing their history and it's not as fun as before because there is YT and people who rightfully can and should object. We have modern DNA and science that can prove who and where your ancestors came from. Grandma wasn't always right and she might've been misinformed.
True, but I didnt hear anyone other than whhytes rail against the blaq portrayal of Anne Boleyn and other English/UK figures. Whhytes always rally in defense of other, but those others dont give a damn about anyone but themselves.
"I don't care what they tell you in school, the real Americans are black" (Coming soon)
" Personal truth isn't truth unless it aligns with factual truth."
Well said.
We call personal truths 'fanfictions' and 'headcanon' for a reason
Reminds me of an old friend....well...acquaintance of mine.
She'd be spouting the most insane things and if I'd give evidence that she was talking nonsense, she was like: "Well this is my truth and that's not worth any less than yours!"
@@MarcelNL and she was right. We are the ones who give value to the concepts in our minds that we consider truth, therefore she gives value to her concepts just as much as you give value to yours. Why would you say that yours are somehow better and that others should only value yours and not their own?
@@sophiependragon2467
Truth aligns with objective FACT, not subjective opinion.
@@sophiependragon2467 Yeah the moon is made of cheese, that's my truth.
You got evidence against that? Well that doesn't make your truth any more valuable than mine. I'll just stick my fingers in my ears and shout "LALALALA!!!" when you try to explain to me how it was formed, because my truth is that it's made of cheese and was put there by a Dutch farmer.
It's so cool to get information about these times in such entertaining ways. Thank you!
As an Egyptian and lover of history this 'documentary' sickens me I knew it would be awful and I couldn't stomach watching it. Thanks for watching it for us and even with demonitization your still making great content much thanks
as an Englishman, it sickens me too.
I studied Ancient History and Archaeology and did quite a few Egyptology units. I feel your pain.
As a Texan I say that this series is a biased stupid waste of time.
I saw the open Black Bigotry which was integral in "Wakanda Forever" and Disney's "Proud Family"' reboot series: Bigotry that equalled the levels of the KKK.
And I know bigotry: My background is Hispanic, from California, and I've had the misfortune of encountering "Latinos" who called me insulting names like "Pendejo", "Chavo De Ocho"( a character similar to Jeff Dunham's Bubba Jay) and "Californero" which as far as I'm concerned is the "Latino" equivalent of the infamous N-word.
And it takes a huge amount of Black bigotry to totally rewrite an established historical character AND call out Egypt for bigotry for condemning this made up story.
Which has little to do with reality: It's akin to remaking the battle of the Alamo and adding in AK47s and armed flying drones.
Or having Nicholas Cage playing Martin Luther King in a biopic.
It's just revisionist bullcrap.
But even ancient Romans depicted Egyptians as black. The mummies of pharaohs look black. Broaden your mind. I recommend Mr. Imhotep’s channel. I wasn’t there but it’s not clear cut.
Are you sure her entire lineage is pure Ancient Greek? Remember Ancient Greece encompassed a lot of land.
"Truth is Treason in an Empire of Lies." -George Orwell
And America is an incredibly corrupt place. You have to deal with your own affairs in the Courts to see it. Everything here is a fraud.
Brilliant quote ...i didnt know it 👍
Ahh… 1984 is one of the best books I’ve ever read man.
"Freedom of Speech is a B*tch"
Such a fitting title. Thank you for continuing to share factual truth with the world. Your research, dedication, and insight are a testimony to factual history. Thank you!
I agree, like Keanu Reeves as a samurai, Yul Brynner as Ramses, Elyzabeth Taylor as Cleopatra, every native american portrayed by blonde hollywood, Jesus as a blonde blue eyed men... Tss tss, such nonsense!
@@etnomadaul Hey yeah we were promised a lot of swearing at the start...... Now I feel lied to. ;D
Heavily abuse
@Artur Carvalho Yeah christ being a white guy is an old european medieval phase
Note I should be wrong so don't take it seriously correct me if i'm wrong
This is the metron we're talking about
And besides he secondly hebrew
As well as the son of god
"My truth" I always hate hearing that term. Truth indicates something is undeniable, pure, without fault etc... Your truth, is really just your story, and your story may be a good one, but it is not always truth, until it is verified.
Granted, Truth can change over time with new discoveries. That being said your absolutely right. How far will we let it slide until "My Truth" gets people out of criminal charges because "he say he didn't do it" becomes a legitimate defense depending on skin color.
It reeks of New Age bull. The phrase my truth is at worst an excuse for lying and at best, an opinion.
Cleopatra: "So you're telling me that a future foreign civilization thousands of miles away from my kingdom has practically reduced my whole existence to a battle of what skin color did she have? Despite my family's lineage being well documented?
Me: Yes.
Cleo: "...
Time travel is a bitch
And before that Europeans reduced her existence to her sex life...
I’d love to see her reaction to Shakespeare.
@@aaronclarke1434, at least Shakespeare didn't just make her ethnicity... he just did a really bad job of depicting her as an actual person.
imagine being the most impressive woman in your age that can go toe-to-toe with statesman across the seas only to see in modern day culture you're just depicted as this cock hungry seductress
To be honest, the most outraging thing for me, as an history student that wants to become an Egyptologist, is that they didn't make an effort to get nor a single thing right in this documentary. Makeup is absolutely wrong (where's the kohl?), headdresses and hairstyles look like something out of the Lord of the Rings (high class Egyptian used to wear wigs, where are them?), I prefer not to mention anything about the clothes because I don't know enough adjectives in English to express how horrible it is.
The ceremonies depicted are mostly historically inaccurate. Buildings look like arabic/medieval, specially her palace. For some reason, they included instruments and dances from sub-saharan Africa, and it goes on, and on, and on. Also, this is an documentary is about Egypt's history, BUT not a single scene was recorded in Egypt.
At some point I feared Roman soldiers could start playing soccer and eat pizza, you know... given the historical accuracy of the show... Rome is in Italy...😂
I wouldn't be surprised if the producers were refused access to Egypt once the officials in Egypt got an inkling what this show was about.
"I don't know enough adjectives in English to express how horrible it is." Hahaha 😂 we can feel your disgust though, no worries.
Thanks for your insights!
Ironically the comment was more eloquent and well-thought than most primary English speakers
"For some reason they included African dances" because they're trying to inject Africa into everything
The reason this failed is, It’s not a “Documentary” it’s a Propaganda.
not even that, its just a LGBT drama show...
All you haters sound so sad and miserable.
@@neildepressedtyson540 Cope and seethe Neil
@@dorozi8202 haha yes, REEEEEE DIS MUVIE I DUN LYK IS PROPAGANDA REEEE
Is that better?
@@neildepressedtyson540 Not even close
Love you Metatron, never stop being an authentic historian first and foremost, no matter the situation.
"I watched it"
And gentlemen, that is what we call an act of courage
It's disgraceful what they did to your channel, but we are still with you! Keep up your awesome and much needed work :D
Cheers from a fellow Italian!
Nothing like racist people calling a non-racist person a racist because he cares more about facts, reality, and history than he does agenda-driven identity politics.
After ALL the LIES and HISTORY you have changed ESAU? SERIOUSLY?
JADA IS A JACKAZZZ.
With that said,
Esau, you have rewritten history of every continent.
TRUE brown Yisrael were located in greece. They were called Grecians and Greeks! So, your so called Cleopatra was probably brown or a Negro mix at the least.
It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The definition of Ham above tells us t things: 1. The TRUE egyptian is a dark brown skin tone. 2. The TRUE people of Yisrael are brown also, not caucasoid. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted in the those lands, PERIOD.
Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
Also, if she is greek, why in the heck are you FAKE egyptians crying about it???????
You understand that are actually racist watching metatron lastest videos and just taking it to justify their actual racism right?
@@ginebravrvr That didn't make sense. Metranon released a second video on this movie, and in it, highlighted some truly badass African queens. If he was a racist, would he of even bothered?
For a villain, ideology is more important than truth.
@@ginebravrvr How is that his responsibility? Why should that even be an issue? People take all sorts of things all sorts of ways to justify all sorts of things. Is the idea that we need to carefully curtail our thoughts or censor our discussions because some small-minded person will take it a certain way or use it to justify something? That sounds like a nightmare to me.
Recently discovered your channel, and knew right away I would enjoy it. i respect your pursuit of truth and knowledge without regard for politics or tribalism. This is how scholarship should be done.
What did anyone expect having Jada Pinkett-Smith as executive producer?
Honestly, I'm surprised. I'm surprised she didn't find a way to publicly humiliate Will directly in the show. She's growing on me.
just searched that name ....LOL!!!
Mockumentary 🤣.
Ahhhh. A face slap? XD
....
Ok I will show myself out now.
Keep that name out ya mouth!
“Uncensored Raw Metatron” sounds like a badass channel. I’d subscribe the hell out if that!
Race aside, everyone portrays Cleopatra as much too beautiful. The iconography and the written record says that she was witty and sensual, not stunningly beautiful. The idea thst a woman can be seductive without great beauty just escapes them
^well it's about taste, i think. i don't see the actress portraying Cleopatra as a beauty either.
Its always the same in any media, Tyrion in GOT was supposed to be hideous yet they managed to cast the most handsome dwarf actor possible for the role.
They always make characters good looking to make them likable instead of putting more effort into character building.
It’s marketing, good looks sell well
I've heard that she had a boyish figure
How about use your common sense? She attracted two of the most powerful men of her time. She was definitely not ugly nor plain as what some people wrote about her.
Cleopatra's full name was Cleopatra VII Thea Philopator, which *in Greek* (not Egyptian) means "father-loving goddess". I mean the Egyptian rulers didnt just woke up one day and decided to pretend they are Greeks. Now, *If I recall correctly,* none of the Ptolemaic Dynasty ever got married to an Egyptian, none of this dynasty *ever* learned to speak the Egyptian language, they all spoke Greek and refused to learn Egyptian, Cleopatra was the first of her dynasty to learn to speak Egyptian, while she was also the last of her dynasty. All the above shout Egyptian (or non Greek) only to a total ....
well, they never took wives, but concubines were fair games. Same from the women: spuses from the same branch, but lovers from whatever
The best thing about this documentary is that more people know the truth about Cleopatra now than ever before haha.
True, in the past years I've heard people saying Cleopatra was black and some even tattooed Cleopatra or Egyptian iconography on them to hail her specifically as a black queen. I've never really cared back then...however now the truth will spread...talk about informing the masses by an "anti-documentary"
But some new generation will belive that netflix pseudo documentary is the right one and that's a tragedy 😂😂😂
And not BECAUSE of the documentary content, but DESPITE it! 😂
@@LadyClannadia I once had to convince a boyfriend’s mom that mermaids weren’t real but she insisted they were because she saw a Discovery channel (maybe History) “documentary” on mermaids! LOLLL the disclaimer was very small and only briefly flashed on the intro screen so it was easy to miss.
Same thing happened with the Dahomey nonsense.
I’m not sure why they’d waste their time with cleopatra when they could do a documentary on the greatest black queen ever, Queen Elizabeth II
Is this suppose to be funny... Queen Victoria was the greatest...
Lol
Oh my god! The secret is out.
They wanted to do a series on African Queens but every episode was about a genocidal slave owner
@@phuqutoob-pf7pb most of them probably 😂
I want to vomit every time i hear "my truth" or "personal truth". 🤮🤮🤮 There is only The Truth. No exceptions
You and I Matthew, think the same way
@@metatronyt I don't think Egyptians today consider themselves "black." I can't imagine how this pseudo-documentary upsets them since an ignorant outsider is blackwashing their history.
I volunteer to hold your hair while you vomit cause I sympathize with you!
And the fact that it is even debated blows my mind.
I just finished watching your video that included the story of the Candace-my first time on your channel. As a lover of both history and archaeology and all things ancient, I wish I could give multiple thumbs up every time. And thanks for the laughs-I do love a little snark.
Clearly it isn't just Egypt that should be suing Netflix, but Macedonia & Greece as well- the cultural erasure they're presenting is highly insulting!
Macedonia is in Greece.
If you means north Macedonia, it’s not Hellenic country. It’s Slavic country, and called former republic of Macedonia
@@emperoroak7331 so... you mean west Bulgaria ?
Joking ofcorse :D
They have better shit to do.
dont make the mistake of replying to any of these comments btw lol
It's beyond reasonable logic that basically everyone everywhere agrees with Metatron, but they end up demonetizing the channel. This kind of channel should be every sponsors dream.
There is logic behind their actions.
They want to control the information.
They want to control knowledge.
They want to censor everyone with a different opinion (most of the times the correct opinion).
They want to control your thoughts and your life.
(Do you think I am exaggerating? .....Think about it.)
TH-cam which is run by the small hats will delete his channel soon
don't bother trying to apply logic to youtube, it's been run by complete idiots for years
case in point : they do all their creator contact through twitter.... someone elses fucking website.
Grazie Metatron per quello che stai facendo, grazie di resistere. Anche io sono un Italiano che fa(ceva) il divulgatore scientifico, e ho lavorato, e lavoro tutt'ora negli USA e in Canada come autore e giornalista. L'atmosfera che si è respirata in questi anni è tossica a dir poco, e la censura è una realtà inconfutabile. Io ho preferito farmi da parte piuttosto che subire la violenza di vedere imposta una sola opinione, un solo modo (assurdo) di vedere le cose, e subire a tutti gli effetti quella che è una censura mostruosa che ricorda molto quella di... certi personaggi del passato che alzavano il braccio di fronte una certa crocetta nera sbilenca su una bandierina rossa.
Resistere da parte tua è un azione coraggiosa, e te ne sono grato personalmente, non solo per l'ottimo lavoro che hai sempre svolto, ma perchè questa è una battaglia per la libertà di espressione - battaglia che, ahimè, io ho scelto di perdere per mantenere la mia di famiglia cambiando lavoro. Stai avendo il coraggio che non ho avuto io, e per questo hai tutto il mio rispetto e la mia empatia.
Don't worry about it. Family always should come first, especially if your the one supporting them.
Wow, è incredibile che tu sia stato (praticamente costretto) ad abbandonare quella che immagino fosse la tua passione. Mi dispiace molto per quello che ti è capitato ma, secondo me, non è troppo tardi per fare marcia indietro e riprendere in qualche modo la via che avevi scelto, perché credo che questo sia il momento di mostrare che tutto ciò che ci circonda non è così semplice. Ogni argomentazione deve essere sostenuta ed accompagnata da prove e fatti oggettivi.
Forza e coraggio!
Torna in Europa allora (possibilmente non nel mondo anglosassone). Sono sicuro che le tue ricerche saranno molto apprezzate. Non c'è più sordo di chi non vuole ascoltare, giusto?
Io vivo in un paese anglosassone il clima “woke” e pazzesco
I love and appreciate your videos I thank you so much for putting all of your hard work up front for everyone to see. I share your videos very often.❤ great work!
If they’re deliberately making things up about Cleopatra and Egyptian history, I would expect the same commitment to accuracy in the costumes.
They switch between calling the show a "documentary" and a "reimagining", so you know theyjust want to steal history
What are they making up? They do not claim Cleopatra was black, but think she likely had some Egyptian or Persian blood as well as Macedonian.
This is from the Netflix site:
"As Egypt's last pharaoh, Cleopatra fights to protect her throne, family and legacy in this docudrama featuring reenactments and expert interviews."
"
You lie like they do
@@Stopcolonizinglebanon Ek jok nie. Hoekom se jy so?
@MuckRakinHoggster So you did not actually watch the docudrama! But you feel free to criticize it wnyway.
How to easily offend metatron
Completely messing up roman armor 😂
Boil pasta in a water boiler after snapping the pasta in half..😂
cut Spaghetti with knife
Blasphemy!
When their only reference is Skyrim:
Don't forget wrongly pronouncing Latin words.
One important thing that is missing from this conversation, is that Egyptian whether in ancient days or today, are not Black. Africa is a huge continent, and North Africans have nothing to do with sub-saharian Africans, especially West Africa where majority of Black American originated from.
This. Africa is the largest single continent on earth, and it's always been diverse. People in West Africa have as much connection to Egypt as Norwegian people have to Turkey. When Netflix does this stuff they are just proving that they don't know anything about Africa or African history.
After ALL the LIES and HISTORY you have changed ESAU? SERIOUSLY?
JADA IS A JACKAZZZ.
With that said,
Esau, you have rewritten history of every continent.
TRUE brown Yisrael were located in greece. They were called Grecians and Greeks! So, your so called Cleopatra was probably brown or a Negro mix at the least.
It is not persoanl, it is just business. Of course, you would have NO CLUE because you are a child of the matrix, television and bogus public educational system. Let’s get the definition of Ham out of the so-called Jewish generated Zondervan’s Pictorial Bible Dictionary: “Ham - The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; NOT THE NEGROS, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.” The original Ham was dark brown. The definition of Ham above tells us t things: 1. The TRUE egyptian is a dark brown skin tone. 2. The TRUE people of Yisrael are brown also, not caucasoid. The present so-called Egyptians have been transplanted in the those lands, PERIOD.
Genesis 10:6-20 - And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. {10:7} And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. {10:8} And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. {10:9} He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD. {10:10} And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. {10:11} Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, {10:12} And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. {10:13} And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, {10:14} And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. {10:15} And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, {10:16} And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, {10:17} And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, {10:18} And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. {10:19} And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. {10:20} These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.
Also, if she is greek, why in the heck are you FAKE egyptians crying about it???????
It's worse than that. The producers and contributers think Africa = black but also that all blacks are the same and basically interchangeable.
How much does a Trinidadian have in common with a Somalian ?
Apparently you have never seen the paintings inside the pyramids. They are black and brown people. They most certainly are not white. Who paints themselves a different color? The level of ignorance here is staggering!
The sad part is all the comments here prove racism ...there is no such thing as black and it proves people are calling people black based on phenotype..proving racism is still alive and well ...and the ugly legacy of colonization lives on. African americans are the descendants of Africans...Egypt is on the continent of Africa 😂😂😂 Cleopatra is African . What makes a person African ...thier phenotype? ..then my friend you are indeed a racist ..you basing someone's " race" based on their physical characteristics rather than actual ethnicity...so is Mariah Carey black or white .....????? I guess white based on the logic in the comment section trying to argue about a concept that's rooted on observable appearance rather than genetics and actual science. The fact that Egypt is African sitting smack dab in the Continent of Africa ..proves my point ..people aren't mad because they are concerned by historical accuracy..people are mad because of racism. To fight to prove Egypt isn't African ..the question is Why? If Elizabeth Taylor can play Cleopatra...anyone can. We should just change the map and put Egypt in Europe so everyone is happy
I can’t wait for the NETFLIX documentary series on Nelson Mandela. I hear that Edgar Winter has been slated to portray Nelson and Danny Devito is being cast as Winnie. Should be epic.
I can't get over how funny it is that they wanted to do an inclusive version of Cleopatra, acted like it was a documentary, while still having the Romans be played by Northern Europeans
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No one knows who was the mother of Marc Antony, so she could be a viking.
@@clausion Hell she might still be alive according to that old woman's grandmother 😂
@@clausion she could even be a black viking queen thus making Marc Anthony a black Roman Viking!
@@TheUntypicalGerman This shouldn't be an impediment for Jada.
I am very black and you are very awesome. Clinically correct, responsible, and intelligent. Thank you for your services.
thank you for being a thorn in the side of the identitarian marxist loons, david.
these idiots would call me racist for detesting this revisionism because I'm french, yet I am northern mediterranean and often get north africans approaching me and engaging me in conversation, to which I respond "I'm sorry, I don't speak arabic".
in the same vein, I get mistaken for *greek* and israeli.. or egyptian.
@@michelguevara151 "Marxist loons"
Way to inject antisemitism into this without it having to be here at all. You just gave massive amounts of ammunition to the people supporting this tripe of a show.
there are many great African empires and kings/queens. Why ignore them and steal another people’s history
Technically speaking for og Marxists identity politics and the woke movement are pure American mambo jambo since according to their ideology identity politics is the way of the ruling class to create artificial divisions and followers
If they are close to something
That is the nazis
Thank you for being black.
This documentary itself is such an insult to the actual history behind Queen Cleopatra, Jada should be ashamed of herself.
Brother, subscribing tonyour channel is a badge of honor.
Keep up your fantastic work.
Netflix: (uses connections to TH-cam to demonetize Metatron for criticising their Cleopatra show)
Metatron: "This only strengthens my resolve..."
It's astonishing they are even coming after someone as charitable and honest as you. We are living in dark times for Truth my friend, stay strong.
I HATE the phrase "your/her/his truth" because there is no such thing. There is THE truth and you cab either bow to it's power or live a lie.
And what is truth?
@@georgegogiashvili9416 Objective observable reality. It is not a hard thing to figure out.
Well, you are correct for some things.
Other things are grey and depend on the personal views on topics.
In general since a few years "my truth" is the same with: I just tell lies and if I am called out I come up with this excuse.
So yes, I agree with you that in the days we live this phrase is just bullshit.
However, that doesn't mean that there is "one truth" for everything.
Based
@@wedgeantilles8575 There is the truth and then there are incorrect and/or incomplete assumptions based on lack of factual data.
Its crazy that people can look at meticulously documented history and say "nah she was cool, she had to of been my skin color"
What "meticulously documented history?" The main information on her life is secondary: Plutarch, Cassius Dio, Josephus.
@@patdaley9098 I assume you're an afrocentrist
@patdaley9098 So, let's throw the references that we have to the trash and give her the color we want. Is that what you are saying?
It's crazy how hard one must fight to tell the truth in this "age of spin". Thank you.
Generally anything out of the USA is complete nonsense. Their education system is dreadful. And because their society is dominated by money, truth goes to the highest bidder. Want to "prove" your new drug works , simply pay the government and the media, and your drug is super-effective.
Telling the truth in 2025: -1000 social credit points for you.
As someone who is really into the end of the Roman Republican period and the Battle of Actium, I thought I’d give this series I try despite disapproving of the race swap. I made it about 15 minutes into the first episode before I switched it off, just around the time the talking heads were explaining why it’s odd we think of Cleopatra as being European. Despite the fact she was born into a Macedonian dynasty famous for it’s habit of marrying brothers to sisters to maintain its bloodline. I almost shouted the screen “are you listening to yourselves?”.
Yes they are, and that’s the problem. They are listening to themselves and ONLY to themselves. The only reason they made this documentary is because they like the sound of their own voices repeated back to them in their personal echo chambers.
You know, if people want more “diverse” historical documentaries, why not tell the story of people and places outside of Europe? It’s really that simple.
Egypt is in Europe?
Egypt is in the Continent of Africa, not Europe
@@YuiYuria i guess he is talking about Cleopatra which is of european descent (greek)
@@motivatedvergil9145 European Descent, but still Egyptian. And Egypt is in Africa. But I guess you can include Europe as the Mediterranean is half Europe anyways.
Egypt is in Africa, not Europe.
“Freedom of speech is a bitch!” Brilliant 👏 Thanks for your wisdom! I appreciate you for speaking with conviction about subjects that matter.