ive tested flax out a bit and i was able to follow a couple unity tutorials within flax though of course plenty of bits of code are different, it isnt too hard to find flax's equivalents also its the only other 3d game engine editor to run on my cheap windows laptop other than godot and it does pretty well imo
I'm currently working on my first game in flax and I had some struggles (many crashes in the animation graph) but the fast compiliation times, the amazing graphics (realtime GI for example), and the nodes (super practical) are better then in unity imo. Only the Community is much smaller and the engine is less documented. But I will probably switch. 9/10 would recommend :)
From my experience with open source products, they often don't document as much and use their test suite sort of as the documentation, i.e. if you want to know how to use a certain feature, you can have a look at the unit tests and see how it is used in there. Although I don't know if that is the case for flax aswell.
Why am I only hearing about this engine now? the feature set looks amazing and so rich. I'm tempted to try it out after my current project on a smaller scope. Cheers.
another good thing about flax, if you're coming from unity, is that the API is really similar,, maybe some classes or methods have different names, but the signatures are almost identical, you can copy paste unity code, adapt it a bit and bam.. IT JUST WORKS
I've heard of Flax, this was a nice rundown. I appreciate you pointing out *gross* because gross includes the Publisher's cut (often 30+%), storefront cut (15-30%), other licenses etc.
@@videogameiacs I believe one of the larger indie publishers (the one that did maldita castilla perhaps?) was talking about working with publishers who'd pulled off over 70% of the gross, leaving devs with under 10%
After trying Unity and Unreal Engine for a year, for sure going with Flax. The performance is amazing on my older rig, documentation and compilation times. It's a mind blowing piece of software even though I've used those other engines.
During this time of uncertainty.. i had a look at Flax. Very Unity like as whole in my opinion. C# api is close to Unity and i was able to convert a good chuck of code i was working on in Unity to Flax with reasonable easy.. the start up time and go to play time are very quick atleast in a small test project. it is lacking especially in 2D or i should say almost Zero 2D support. The editor can have random weird issues that require a restart to fix. The FBX importing is rough IMO it crashes flax alot.. As far as features go its basic but strong in the areas that the engine dev did put time in on, the main issue for many will be the lack of indepth documentation on specific use cases and the little in the way of tutorials , community.
4% after 250k (gross) per every quarter? That's approximately 1% less then Unreal with their 5% after 1mill (gross) of yearly earnings. Might be good content to go into more detail with Flax vs Unreal follow up. Because on the surface with what Flax has to offer, when compared to Unreal? That 1% difference, is more than reasonable to just go with Unreal, with just a quick overlook of features offered. Could be wrong, since its just a quick view of features offered. Might be some more things Flax may offer underneath, for all I know.
yeah I was just wanting to make people aware of its existence really, I think the one positive is the lack of an amazon overlord, if that's a concern for some
For people, like me who are used to Unity, learning Unreal isn't a super smooth transition. Flax seems to be very close to Unity and unlike Unreal, supports C#
Like cyclone mentioned, flax is more similar to unity if you are missing that, also Flax is *very* lightweight. It takes 1 minute for me to compile the entire engine from scratch. It also supports C# and C++ in the same project, making it easy to optimize whatever you need, and you can keep the rest in C#. Unreal does offer more features and simpler/easier to use tooling though, so if that's what you are looking for, Unreal does make more sense for you.
no, it's more than 1%. in most cases, a newly released game has a sell spike in first quarter, then slowly loses heat. Flax would take 4% revenue split in first a few quarters, then takes less and less till nothing if it sells below 250k. unreal's 5% is life time. meaning each quarter, unreal takes 1% plus 250k more than flax, till forever.
I checked the engine out as well and after doing my research I found a reddit post accusing the developer of flax for having some stolen code/licensing plan from Unreal and Unity, although the information on the topic was not concrete (just some screenshots comparing different parts of the licensing and discord messages of the accusations). This could be a deal breaker for some people that are not wanting to risk the legality of the code they're using. Just thought I should put it out there.
The dev of the engine has responded to these claims a while ago, and said he has resolved those concerns directly with unreal/unity since people were worried about it. It is also worth mentioning that if there was genuinely code stolen from either of the engines, they would both ready to strike flax into the ground with a hammer XD
As far as I know if you use Linux to make games in C#, other than Unity or Godo you are limited to using Flax or momogames for 2D/FNA for 3D. FNA and Flax look like they have the best performance so I am going to try both. FNA is code based so it takes a lot of work to setup but a lot of things are faster to do in code.
Flax does look more like Unreal than Unity, will check if it's less heavy than Unreal I may stick to it I'm surprised it went under so many radars tho doesn't looks much worst than Godot
After Unity I believe more and more businesses will attempt to cut into people's earnings... Twitter is following up by introducing subscription to post or something... so this is going to become a trend, and among all of those that cut into it open source is the only viable solution for me at least... and there stands Godot!!! Flax is insanely attractive to me as a unity dev, but unity has schooled me quite a bit... Defold game engine is ok, bevy, stride...
ive tested flax out a bit and i was able to follow a couple unity tutorials within flax
though of course plenty of bits of code are different, it isnt too hard to find flax's equivalents
also its the only other 3d game engine editor to run on my cheap windows laptop other than godot
and it does pretty well imo
Ok that’s pretty good good news for others to read
I'm currently working on my first game in flax and I had some struggles (many crashes in the animation graph) but the fast compiliation times, the amazing graphics (realtime GI for example), and the nodes (super practical) are better then in unity imo. Only the Community is much smaller and the engine is less documented. But I will probably switch. 9/10 would recommend :)
Great thanks for the information! Please let me know what else you find and if you do fully switch
From my experience with open source products, they often don't document as much and use their test suite sort of as the documentation, i.e. if you want to know how to use a certain feature, you can have a look at the unit tests and see how it is used in there. Although I don't know if that is the case for flax aswell.
Why am I only hearing about this engine now? the feature set looks amazing and so rich. I'm tempted to try it out after my current project on a smaller scope. Cheers.
another good thing about flax, if you're coming from unity, is that the API is really similar,, maybe some classes or methods have different names, but the signatures are almost identical, you can copy paste unity code, adapt it a bit and bam.. IT JUST WORKS
Oh that’s a great tip thank you for sharing!
who needs an engine? I just write my own for every game, give up half way through and never finish the project.
and best of all, its completely free 🙃
Ahhh a common story :D
yeah, I tried to write my own engine; it ended badly.
I've heard of Flax, this was a nice rundown.
I appreciate you pointing out *gross* because gross includes the Publisher's cut (often 30+%), storefront cut (15-30%), other licenses etc.
Thanks yeah good point regarding the publishers, really doesn’t leave you with much!
@@videogameiacs I believe one of the larger indie publishers (the one that did maldita castilla perhaps?) was talking about working with publishers who'd pulled off over 70% of the gross, leaving devs with under 10%
Its also worth mentioning that unreal does the same thing (but 1% more, and its over 1 million in a calendar year instead of 250k in a quarter)
@@mrcobalt124 1million is life time limit, not calendar year limit, isn't it?
@@edward3190 Yeah, mb
After trying Unity and Unreal Engine for a year, for sure going with Flax. The performance is amazing on my older rig, documentation and compilation times. It's a mind blowing piece of software even though I've used those other engines.
Ah this is interesting to hear, best of luck to you!
@@videogameiacs Thank you!
During this time of uncertainty.. i had a look at Flax. Very Unity like as whole in my opinion. C# api is close to Unity and i was able to convert a good chuck of code i was working on in Unity to Flax with reasonable easy.. the start up time and go to play time are very quick atleast in a small test project. it is lacking especially in 2D or i should say almost Zero 2D support. The editor can have random weird issues that require a restart to fix. The FBX importing is rough IMO it crashes flax alot.. As far as features go its basic but strong in the areas that the engine dev did put time in on, the main issue for many will be the lack of indepth documentation on specific use cases and the little in the way of tutorials , community.
4% after 250k (gross) per every quarter? That's approximately 1% less then Unreal with their 5% after 1mill (gross) of yearly earnings. Might be good content to go into more detail with Flax vs Unreal follow up.
Because on the surface with what Flax has to offer, when compared to Unreal? That 1% difference, is more than reasonable to just go with Unreal, with just a quick overlook of features offered.
Could be wrong, since its just a quick view of features offered. Might be some more things Flax may offer underneath, for all I know.
yeah I was just wanting to make people aware of its existence really, I think the one positive is the lack of an amazon overlord, if that's a concern for some
For people, like me who are used to Unity, learning Unreal isn't a super smooth transition. Flax seems to be very close to Unity and unlike Unreal, supports C#
Like cyclone mentioned, flax is more similar to unity if you are missing that, also Flax is *very* lightweight. It takes 1 minute for me to compile the entire engine from scratch. It also supports C# and C++ in the same project, making it easy to optimize whatever you need, and you can keep the rest in C#. Unreal does offer more features and simpler/easier to use tooling though, so if that's what you are looking for, Unreal does make more sense for you.
no, it's more than 1%.
in most cases, a newly released game has a sell spike in first quarter, then slowly loses heat.
Flax would take 4% revenue split in first a few quarters, then takes less and less till nothing if it sells below 250k.
unreal's 5% is life time. meaning each quarter, unreal takes 1% plus 250k more than flax, till forever.
what are ur thoughts on Stride?
Personally, I looked into stride pretty heavily (it's a nice UE style) but I had a heck of a time getting a cross-compile to work
Hadn't heard of this one. Good overview!
Thanks dude :)
I checked the engine out as well and after doing my research I found a reddit post accusing the developer of flax for having some stolen code/licensing plan from Unreal and Unity, although the information on the topic was not concrete (just some screenshots comparing different parts of the licensing and discord messages of the accusations). This could be a deal breaker for some people that are not wanting to risk the legality of the code they're using. Just thought I should put it out there.
Oh ok thank you interesting to keep an eye on
The dev of the engine has responded to these claims a while ago, and said he has resolved those concerns directly with unreal/unity since people were worried about it. It is also worth mentioning that if there was genuinely code stolen from either of the engines, they would both ready to strike flax into the ground with a hammer XD
As far as I know if you use Linux to make games in C#, other than Unity or Godo you are limited to using Flax or momogames for 2D/FNA for 3D. FNA and Flax look like they have the best performance so I am going to try both. FNA is code based so it takes a lot of work to setup but a lot of things are faster to do in code.
What about stride 3D?
Not heard of that one
@@videogameiacs Check it out, it's very similiar to Unity, in term of setup and looks!
@@videogameiacs th-cam.com/video/Krg23r6ZaF8/w-d-xo.html
It's basically Monogame/FNA but with a really impressive IDE @@videogameiacs
@@videogameiacsits unity but open source
Flax does look more like Unreal than Unity, will check if it's less heavy than Unreal I may stick to it
I'm surprised it went under so many radars tho doesn't looks much worst than Godot
Glad you found the video useful :) please come back and tell us how you got on with it
Your experience??
If I would be Unity, i would be scared :D
i'll try it it looks so good :) sub!
Let me know how you get on!
needs openxr
After Unity I believe more and more businesses will attempt to cut into people's earnings... Twitter is following up by introducing subscription to post or something... so this is going to become a trend, and among all of those that cut into it open source is the only viable solution for me at least... and there stands Godot!!! Flax is insanely attractive to me as a unity dev, but unity has schooled me quite a bit... Defold game engine is ok, bevy, stride...
Yeah the power of open source software is so important!
Flax >>>> Godot
unity
Any reason?
there some benchmarks on youtube suggesting
Flax > unity
Flax >> godot
How’s its performance?
Better than Godot's, that's for sure
there some benchmarks on youtube suggesting
Flax > unity
Flax >> godot