The New Haven in "A Great Railroad at Work" (1942)
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- This is a really good film of the New Haven Railroad at its best. It shows both passenger and freight operations, with scenes in Boston, New Haven and New York City. It includes both trackside and on-board scenes, as well as a number of extended shots of the locomotive shops and carfloat operations.
Locomotives seen include the streamlined I-5 4-6-4 Hudsons, R-1 and R-3 4-8-2's, EP-4 electrics, several early diesels, and, at the very beginning a G-3 4-6-0 Ten-Wheeler.
Jam Handy Productions, who made the film on behalf of the New Haven, did an excellent job on it. It appears to use authentic location sound, and continuity has been maintained throughout. Plus they hired Lowell Thomas to narrate!
I have edited a few minutes from the film, including a message from the president of the railroad and two sub-plots involving a bicycle shipment and a child's first train trip alone.
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America had such a great transportation system, and it was all destroyed by truck and bus makers. Electric trains, powered by efficient power plants were , or should have been the future. Instead, highways and thousands of cars & trucks each emitting toxic fumes are what we ended up with!
What a marvelous window into the past, hard working men doing hard work. I very much appreciate you folks sharing this.
"...hard working men doing hard work..." And living to the ripe old age of 55.
Back when blue collar workers were paid living wages and could afford to own their own homes and support their families on one income. We've lost our way.
The I-5 is one of the most beautiful locomotives ever built
Not one PC screen or piece of graffiti to be seen... Clean well dressed people with a decency in their appearance and attitude. Pride in work, trade, one's company and country. All this, despite the difficult times being gone through. Very different times. Seems like a dream...
Ofc everything looks nice and perfect, it's a promotional film aka corporate propaganda
@@wchaunis it that hard to believe people used to have pride and decency
And the aerosol spray can was not in regular use at that time.
Almost my entire family worked the New Haven road from it's beginning to it's demise out of New Haven. Trackmen, yard men, engineers and station masters.
It's a shame to see such an amazing railroad network be brought down
@@KINGFISHOL its a shame so many class 1 railroads were shut down for much worser , less efficient and less climate friendly cars.
Amazing to think that this was filmed mere months after the attack on Hawaii by the Japanese. I love seeing these old films and equating to them what significant events happened around the same time. Thank You for the upload. Cheers
I love these old films, so optimistic.
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The I-5s were beautiful. I wish they survived the scrapyards.
@Carl Ferrigno #3025?
They could've preserved 2. One at the Danbury Railroad Museum and the other one at the Railroad Museum of New England. Or? But the next member #1410 from scratch! It will have a new top speed of 125MPH when it's a full throttle. And will travel from Washington D.C. to Boston. MA.
Same here. Would’ve been nice to see one preserved and put into excursion service. It would have given the I5 the chance to *really* show what it was made of. NH never gave them that chance as track speed didn’t usually exceed 60. Damn shame.
They are really good looking locomotives
Yeah, me too.
This film, though fascinating to watch, is also an amazing resource for all the model railroad fans who try to create layouts that duplicate, with minute accuracy, the way railroad operations really looked and how they were really run.
Doing just that! Lots of fun for this old guy over 60 years
That was the first time I had ever heard of or seen a "slip track" to test locos.
The I-5 departing Boston South Station with the Yankee Clipper tow and speeding down the line is single handedly the best part in this film.
it is
the music makes it even more epic
Most of my family worked ofr the New Haven out of the New Haven Yards and station. My grandfather was a stationmaster there in the 40's.
How quaint, a long long time ago in a galaxy far away, when you took for granted that things in America actually worked.
Thanks to the New Deal.
@@romanlyubchak7986 Mid to late 60's, Roman. it all went to hell then.
still does in many places
Train yard logistics alone are extremely amazing!
Great footage. Maintenance, baby, maintenance!
I remember as a kid in the late 1940's my father bringing me down to the railroad station to watch the unloading of the mail car. Canvas sacks of mail were unloaded from the mail car onto a wood flatbed cart with iron wheels, that was then wheeled to the parking lot to a waiting Post Office truck. We lived about a block from the New Haven tracks in Mount Vernon, New York.
Love to hear old stories
This loco. Shape was replicated in Australia. The New South Wales Government Railways designed and built the C 38 class Pacifics from 1943. The first were streamliners with a very similar look to these NYNHH locos. I love the look of them.
29:39 "the industrial genius of America." now we make nothing and soon probably to be nothing.
what a great vid!!! My! how life has changed (and not for the better). Everyone was dressed nicely, no pajama bottoms or sweat pants!
At least you wont get polio now-a-days.
Some things are better for sure, but you have to admit that well-dressed people are rare today! Women tie their hair in a scraggly ball, put on the track pants and go out in public-sad...
@@Stratovair Don't forget their sleazy tattoos. Back then, a tattooed lady would only be found in a carnival freak show. And that is where they still belong.
@@Stratovair Growing up we had to wear suits to go to the Forum to watch the Habs play. It was nearly a religious experience.
NH YardLimit so true my friend, so true.
God I would kill to go back in time and see New England at its peak manufacturing. Non-urban renewed cities, no highways cutting through downtowns, beautiful stations still maintained that are no longer with us, steam locomotives, and passenger trains.
And only about 130 million people.
This is positively beautiful footage, you have here. New York New Haven and Hartford is a misunderstood carrier. Had potential to do great things, but was often financially plagued. Even Penn Central didn't do much to solve the woes. Thankfully, the remaining active parts of the NH are doing better thanks to changes like the Staggers Rail Act.
Jessica Kasumi their are only three surviving new haven steamers I think....but hell those days are gone.....
Penn Central was a disaster, almost by design. (sighs)
But they're far from the only railroad company that was, though.
New Haven was a pioneer in piggyback freight, but unfortunately their system turned out to be the Betamax of transportation.
@@LIMowersAndMore Unfortunately not a single NH steam locomotive made it to preservation. The closest we have is #3025 at the Valley Railroad which is a Chinese SY made to look like an NH J1 mikado
One of my great-grandfathers (my father's father's father) was a train engineer on the line from Albany to Boston 🥰🚂🚂🚄🚅🥰
Look how Snappy everybody dressed back then not like the slobs today
They were just nice-looking slobs.
Look at all the people making a paycheck and getting it done with no computers
@@Dan_isreal.08 And how was that boomerish? He was saying how heavily we rely on computers to do things today, an example how time has changed
And if those computers are ever taken out by an EMP this country will come to a grinding halt. Disconnect anyone 30-and-under from the Matrix and watch them instantaneously lock up--numbly staring downward while waiting for their cellphone screens to come back on.
Nothing like the steam locomotive....
That slip track was pretty cool. I could watch that all day.
4:43 7:45 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙞𝙨 𝙚𝙥𝙞𝙘
Did anyone else notice that the woman’s Pullman sleeper ticket was dated December 6th? Since the copyright date is 1942, that would make it the previous December. She would have gone to sleep from GCT/NY and woken up to Pearl Harbor the next morning (the 7th).
Also explains the narratot’s comment, “… what with rubber tires rationed.”
I've watched this clip quite a few times over the years and never knew until recently that the opening scene of the movie was filmed in Hamden CT at the Mt carmel canal line station. And yes I also happened to notice the date of the ticket that the woman purchased for that pullman, it put a lump in my throat. Life changed during her journey.
This is one of the better railroad films of the era. Sure like seeing those streamlined I-5 4-6-4's!
The amount of staff in those days is unbelievable.
And most of those jobs have been abolished due to technology and our Govt's stupid policy of taxing the railroads to subsidize its competitors. That is called "progress."
They worked hard and didn't live in big fancy houses. Went to church on Sundays...did it right! One wonders who the brains were behind all of this.
Closer to God ... that's for sure.
And there at the end of the movie is the end of a train with an old man waving bye. I like that better than a FRED.
A lot of this footage was at the Cedar Hill Classification yard. There are sections of it to this day still in the woods abandoned. At 15: 56 you can see Sleeping Giant state park in the distance.
Maybe the Best railroad documentary. From A to Z American railroading at its peak, (the Glory Days) as told by the great Lowell Thomas. Beautiful huge steam engines. The New Haven was historic in railroad electrification, had the most beautiful electric engine (although not in this movie)
It a shame there is barely no new haven steam locomotives preseved
It was a mighty RR for a long time.
I was born in Connecticut in 68 and have lots of family there although I no longer Am. Additionally, my father worked for Pratt and Whitney in West Hartford and I worked for Chandler Evans (div of Colt Industries).
Great film enjoyed very much
Classic New Haven pagoda-style tower at 7:46
Really enjoyed this thanks
All the railroads back then were great.
Before most of them went bankrupt.
Beautiful history brought to life, very sentimental.
I liked the fleeting excerpts we had of Dvorak's eighth symphony.
It’s hard to believe there was actually a time like that in America,l.
3:17 ok, that’s cool
I loved the part where these great iron juggernauts were overhauled!
15:04 my favorite scene
Billie jean is not my lover
When a train does the Moonwalk
I admire the heroic voice of the narrator
America had such a great transportation system, years ago! What happened? Even up here in Maine there was an extensive trolley / light rail system as well as the passenger trains.
29:39 "the industrial genius of America." now we make nothing and soon probably to be nothing.
I like the diesel switcher. The Earliest ones in the UK were from 1932 and the earliest main line diesels were introduced in 1947. Diesel and electric traction were implemented from 1955 in the UK
That's is an ALCO model. Made in upstate NY.
Lowell Thomas was a wordsmith. Strange he used the word “ponderous”. Twice even.
Even Lowell had to read from scripts written by others on occasion.
It. Doesn’t’ get. Better. Than this ! The movies. From. The. 40’s. Are. Real. Classics !
Thanks! For a feel good video.
Merry Christmas 🎄.
This is so cool and a Thumbs Up for you also.
1942:
Stationmaster: (NY,NH,&H) You were one single minute late! What is the meaning of this!!
2019:
Stationmaster: (Amtrak) Only 3 hours late! Perfectly on time! Great job!
I think we can learn something: after Penn Central, speed wasn't the same (70 Mph-20 Mph)!
😄
I began my passenger service after freight service with the NY,NH&H. The last thing I wanted was having to provide the answer for was lost time. With Amtrak they had a scheme that interline trains leaving late were on time if they hadn't lost any more time into the final terminal. With certain enginemen I knew that "making up time" was a cinch if my crew could get "them" off and on. Never had to answer for making up time.
And despite most coal trains being gone we actually use 4 times the amount of coal per year globally than we did when this was filmed. Gorgeous loco though.
Really? Thats interesting.
New Haven held coal reserves on the ground to last seven years according to NH projections. One such reserve was in the Randolph, Avon, Holbrook area south of Boston. The NH feared coal miner strikes. I think there was some near the Cos Cob generating plant too.
Amazing!
15:04 Michael Jackson after brought back to life as a steam locomotive
Best TH-cam Video Ever
This is really good!
THANK YOU FOR GREAT HISTORY VIDEO
I'm 57 and truly believe I would have been much happier living in this Era !!!
The actual running time of this classic film is 45 minutes, just acquired a 1942 16mm print.
Ah Lowell Thomas!
New haven is my favorite only cause i live nearby
Today's freight service is so boring and colorless; double stacks and blinking rear end devices instead of cabooses. Well there still are tank, box, hoppers, gondolas, but something just doesn't seem the same.. I like quite a few diesels but steam gave it the romance. I guess when they died the romance went with it...Now it's goodbye to the creosote impregnated wood ties as more and more concrete ties take over..I guess the reason they still aren't under switches (TOs) is due to the need for long length ones. I guess they'd crack or snap in half. Or maybe it's due to not enough grease would remain under the points...
@9:32 hmmmm - don't think that is actually on board a train. I wonder if that is a practice kitchen.
Yeah I've seen other dining car kitchens. Two descriptive words would be "cramped efficiency!" Lol
For the purpose of film. Sole reason being you couldn't maneuver a camera of the day in there or get anything other than close ups.
Pretty Crazy seeing no young men all fighting in WW2 when this was filmed
People had to run things back home. Railroads were critical for defense.
My dad was already in the PTO when this was released.
@@s.sestric9929 90% of military equipment was moved by rail, and 97% of troops were moved by train too.
3:44-5:04
Best part of the entire flim.
AWESOME
Fantastic quality, one of the best quality films of this vintage I've seen. What a stirring shot at4:45. And matching sound too!
Is the audio for the 4-8-2 at 17:52 timed for 3 or 4 chuffs per revolution? It should be 3 as the R3s/R3as were three cylinder locos.
I grew up with this Documentary. My father had it on VHS. It was done by Pentrex.
We changed all of that for what......... For moving by ourselves in cars and for paying fuel and all related with cars, transportation and highway taxes?
My god, I need a ride to mid 30's because the present and the future suck.......
The engineer at 25 seconds is wearing a mask
That dining car kitchen was HUGE. I wanna work for the New Haven! Where do I sign up???
Uh, I'm quite certain that was NOT filmed in a cramped dining car galley. LOL
Ummm the New Haven Railroad has been gone since the 80s. It had been merged into the penn central, then Conrail, then Norfolk Southern. Also Dining cars are being discontinued on long distance trains to cut costs.
@@SoPacStudios 1968 to be precise as an operating railroad. Trustees of the railroad remained up until the Conrail scheme was hatched.
Have you not seen 'the Big Bus'?😁 Had a bowling lane, too. Movie magic!
Lowell Thomas, wow
I fondly remember his travelogues from the '50s, mostly on TV.
bonjour ne pas seulement que soient les femmes bellistoires es par leur postures et faces mais aussi jollies par son vetemant les robes delicates. les mechanicien dans les locos vapeur sont gentils et les gens portent une bienveillante manere a se paraitre. wow. salut madame rosalita
Rode the New Haven from Boston to NYC 3 or 4 times a year with my Mom. This brings back a few memories!
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Always gives me a chuckle whenever they say, "Exceedingly modern!" in these films xDD.
I Love That Train
"Countless tons of the black fuel stored against any emergency, anything that might cause a shortage" What a quaint idea. 😐😶
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did back in 1954.
Nice ! 😀👍
This is nothing short of miraculous!
So much went into this industry.
Nothing like that today.
Water. coal, oil, sand, wood
and steel. So many jobs, right down to the chefs and servants in the diner cars; the tower men, yard men, mechanics and of course the train and engine servicemen!
The tracks at 2:52 had to have a few hundred derailments over the years
Harry Briscoe Possibly but they hire good switchers and dispatchers to operate the switches. Maybe like 10 derailments but not saying few hundred.
Man that sure looks proud
AMERICA! a once great country.
Americans working hard and proud to be Americans
I remember steam Locomotives alot
I was half expecting to see”Buy War Bonds” at the end!
😉🇺🇸
"Any bonds, todayyyy!"
I was looking for different railroad slogans on the boxcars.
The signals look very British? The electrics look similar to the little Joe's but have overhead and 3rd rail pickup, at what voltage please?
The New Haven's electrification, which covered the NYC-New Haven-Hartford line as well as several branches, was 11kV 25-cycle AC. The NH used New York Central tracks into Grand Central Terminal, so trains would switch to the NYC's 600VDC third rail for the last few miles.
@@SpeedGraphicFilmVideo Many thanks.
@@SpeedGraphicFilmVideo What power was used on the New York Connecting Railroad third rail and overhead into Pennsylvania Station?
The NYCR was 11kV, same as the PRR and the NH.
@@SpeedGraphicFilmVideo Thank you. Good work.
I note this version is 30 minutes but I acquired several years ago the longer 45 minute version, print is 82 years old. Eventually will post it.
Yup, as explained in the description, this is a "railfan's version" of the film. This version focuses mainly on scenes of railroad operations.
"A Great Railroad Out of Business"
The NYNH&H was an amazing network, but it was a patchwork of purchases, leases, owned track and rights of way. Some purchases and leases were conditional on retaining stops and lines that led to a "death by 1000 cuts." The same applied to labor practices, career structures, etc. In spite of this, on the day of the 1929 stock market crash NYNY&H shares were trading at $250. Many great memories of traveling aboard.
3:21
1425 Locomotive: No Longer Exists
Australian Counterpart: Exists
Me: There should be a replica of 1425 built for tourist trains.
rename this video to: new haven, always in debt 😂
I had taken a traim from New York to Boston, in 1997.
Header had been changed from electric engine to diesel engine at New haven.
'NortheastDirect '
I have these on vhs tape i remember watching it as a child
Does anyone know of any books detailing the transition from Steam to diesel by the US roads?
"Trains" magazine published a special addition "super mag" on railroading in the 50's. It contains articles on the rapid change over from steam to diesel or electric.
I am always surprised that US rail did not change over the electric power which has happened in Europe and Great Britain.
To think I worked in that underground tower. It was Tower A one of 3 towers on the upper level of GCT. It was stacked on top of Tower B wihich controlled the lower level of GCT. There was Tower A (upper level plats), Tower C which controlled East Yard (1-10)
the Back yard (50s) and Tower U now known as CP 1 at E59st and Tower B for the lower level.