Neat! I just love some of the archives available here on TH-cam. I have some fascination with the management by Mr. Perlman. Almost brings one back in time.... almost, that is. Much enjoy this!
You gotta admit, Perlman was a great businessman, he knew how to keep the railroads afloat for a while. And while he was bad at preservation, he did NOT have every steam locomotive scrapped. He actually donated Empire State Express 999 and L-2d Mohawk 2933 to museums. So you can't say he ordered every steam locomotive to be scrapped.
@@subzerofromny735the New York central was in a horrendous financial situation and he had little to no choice. There is NO doubt in my mind that he would’ve been happy to save a Hudson if the company wasn’t damn near belly up.
Further adding to what the gentleman was saying at the end of the video, the railroad used to be one of the top employers in larger communities across the states, thus creating a lot more tax revenue and low unemployment. Once the crooked government started putting the squeeze on them, they had come up with automation to take over human labor just to try and compete......much like what is going on right now. Overall, the economy suffers because those jobs are gone.
Pearlman was a railroad genius, too bad he scrapped pretty much every steam locomotive under his railroad. Not one Hudson, Mohawk (except 2 that were sold) or Niagara was saved.
Sir, Do you have a Newsreel from around 1939 when Mr. CHARLES ATLAS, pulled the PENNSYLVANIA RAILROADS "BROADWAY LIMITEDS" OBSERVATION CAR a distance of 112 Feet, at The Sunnyside Railroad Yard in NYC. I know there were many different Newsreel Cameramen and public filming the story. If you have this Newsreel or even a Home Movie, we will pay you nicely for the footage in 16mm. Thank You, Sir!!
Yes but you have to understand this was the 1950s so at the time everyone was so focused on modernizing not just railroads but the entire country so nobody really cared about saving history as America was entering a new age since within a decade NASA put a man on the moon.
Horrible financial conditions were the reason he had to scrap them. There is no doubt in my mind that he would’ve been happy to preserve more if the company wasn’t in economic ruin, proof of this is donating 2933 in 1962, after most financial problems were solved
15:41 clearly shows a EMD F-3/7 15:47 shows a ALCO FA-2 Wow the Central was really stupid thinking we wouldn’t notice the power change back in the days. 🤣🤣🤣
Alfred Pearlman may be a good businessman but it's a shame that he didn't let any steam locomotive persevere. Especially 4-8-4s and 4-6-4s. Since he didn't want any steam locomotives on New York Central, he could of at least donated at least one Hudson (4-6-4) and Nigeria (4-8-4) to a museum Outside of New York Central.
He did it for the money, the central was in a horrible financial situation at the time. There is NO doubt in my mind that he would’ve been happy to preserve more if the company wasn’t in economical crisis at the time, proof of this is donating 2933 in 1962, after most financial problems were solved
You guys forgot one thing.Around 1860 the Federal Gov. GAVE all railroads FREE right-of-ways of 100 feet wide for where ever they wanted to proceed. In addition these railroads at the time could charge WHATEVER fees they saw if inasmuch as they were the only game in town. Indeed they were responsible for creating thousands of entire towns which are still in existence regardless of whether or not the railroads is still anywhere near that town today.Now, because other means of transportation have become more attractive (largely because of the railroad's refusal to comply with current demands), the railroads are crying foul.Think about how the railroads fought every progressive safety trend from automatic air brakes, to Janise Couplers, to roller bearings, to diesel engines.Each of these improvement vastly helped the RR industry, yet they fought it because they saw the effort was to eliminate jobs...regardless of whether those job requirements included running on the top of a rail car in winter, risking my life every second, only for the advantage of keeping my job before I die?.
That free land was only in the West. I guess the fact that our idiot government taxed the railroads to subsidize their competitors doesn't bother you at all. You deserve your highway gridlock and the miserable experience that airline travel has become today.
Gary Cost-- Stuart Saunders was chairman of the merged companies, not Perlman. Within two years of the ill fated merger, the federally funded Interstate Highway System and the St Lawrence Seaway, heavy taxation, old work rules and money losing passenger service put railroads in bankruptcy. Perlman was a fixer, he put the Rio Grande back into the black before his NYC days, then afterwards he did the same thing with Western Pacific before it merged with Union Pacific a year after he retired.
i recall that bunkrupt merger prr & nyc it was a bad thing, even the workers from the 2 roads hated each other and the nyc power was all junk in disrepair those nyc engines many time would fail right after leaving the yard and thats fack not fiction, it was a very bad marriage from start to the end.
1:30 is probably the greatest opening to any railroad flim, ever.
Wow ! This is fantastic ! I'm so glad someone had the ambition to film this. Thanks for posting this video .
The makers of this filmed could never imagine just how much business the railroads would one day eagerly give away to the competition.
Neat! I just love some of the archives available here on TH-cam. I have some fascination with the management by Mr. Perlman. Almost brings one back in time.... almost, that is. Much enjoy this!
At 9:00, they show the Frontier Yard in Buffalo which is about five minutes from my house..a lot quieter these days from when this film was made
What Pearlman says is 100% true today - our nation's public policy towards rail has been slanted for 100 years.
The narrator has a Rod Serling vibe.
Perlman's protégés would turn railroading around in the 1980's.
I WANT THAT STEAM ENGINE
You gotta admit, Perlman was a great businessman, he knew how to keep the railroads afloat for a while. And while he was bad at preservation, he did NOT have every steam locomotive scrapped. He actually donated Empire State Express 999 and L-2d Mohawk 2933 to museums. So you can't say he ordered every steam locomotive to be scrapped.
He couldn’t even have the decently to preserve the j Hudsons. One of the most popular locomotives in history
@@subzerofromny735the New York central was in a horrendous financial situation and he had little to no choice. There is NO doubt in my mind that he would’ve been happy to save a Hudson if the company wasn’t damn near belly up.
@@backonpro5679 still he couldn’t preserve at least ONE?
Perlman showed those pigtails who was boss 😎
Incredable this was, a MUST see..!!
Especially in the last section, when it is explained in how the goverment was pushing down the railroads..
Read the book: WRECK OF THE PENN CENTRAL.
Further adding to what the gentleman was saying at the end of the video, the railroad used to be one of the top employers in larger communities across the states, thus creating a lot more tax revenue and low unemployment. Once the crooked government started putting the squeeze on them, they had come up with automation to take over human labor just to try and compete......much like what is going on right now. Overall, the economy suffers because those jobs are gone.
Geez, I started at Frontier. It was 24/7. No more hump. Sad.
I love the Rod Serling vibe.
Where’d my monopoly go? Why do I have to pay taxes?
The narrator reminds me of Rod Sterling from The Twilight Zone.
Because this is the 50s and 60s.
Pearlman was a railroad genius, too bad he scrapped pretty much every steam locomotive under his railroad. Not one Hudson, Mohawk (except 2 that were sold) or Niagara was saved.
The Mohawk 2933 was donated, and he couldn’t do much to save many because of the horrendous financial situation that the nyc was in
Then shortly after this, the postal service stopped using the railroads.
Sir, Do you have a Newsreel from around 1939 when Mr. CHARLES ATLAS, pulled the PENNSYLVANIA RAILROADS "BROADWAY LIMITEDS" OBSERVATION CAR a distance of 112 Feet, at The Sunnyside Railroad Yard in NYC.
I know there were many different Newsreel Cameramen and public filming the story. If you have this Newsreel or even a Home Movie, we will pay you nicely for the footage in 16mm. Thank You, Sir!!
Why did Mr. Alfred E. Perlman and Mr. Joey Julian narrate The Big Train from 0:00 to 26:12?
The early bird gets the freight!!!!
Isn’t Alfred E Perlman the reason why the New York central J3 wasn’t preserved
Yes but you have to understand this was the 1950s so at the time everyone was so focused on modernizing not just railroads but the entire country so nobody really cared about saving history as America was entering a new age since within a decade NASA put a man on the moon.
Horrible financial conditions were the reason he had to scrap them. There is no doubt in my mind that he would’ve been happy to preserve more if the company wasn’t in economic ruin, proof of this is donating 2933 in 1962, after most financial problems were solved
Anyone here from History in the Dark? XD
Serious question… 4:22 … what is the purpose of that dial being so large?
well IBM is still with us
Eastern and TWA by the way Pan Am is/was a railroad now
15:41 clearly shows a EMD F-3/7
15:47 shows a ALCO FA-2
Wow the Central was really stupid thinking we wouldn’t notice the power change back in the days. 🤣🤣🤣
A dial that showed the lead level??? Real or a mock-up?
Alfred Pearlman may be a good businessman but it's a shame that he didn't let any steam locomotive persevere. Especially 4-8-4s and 4-6-4s. Since he didn't want any steam locomotives on New York Central, he could of at least donated at least one Hudson (4-6-4) and Nigeria (4-8-4) to a museum Outside of New York Central.
He donated 2933, he had very little choice than to scrap the fleet because of the horrendous financial situation the central was in.
@backonpro5679 I heard that recently from the history of the Dark
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Perlman, a tortured soul.
I’m a bit mad at Perlman because he wanted to scrap every steam locomotive so his rail line won’t be described as old
He did it for the money, the central was in a horrible financial situation at the time. There is NO doubt in my mind that he would’ve been happy to preserve more if the company wasn’t in economical crisis at the time, proof of this is donating 2933 in 1962, after most financial problems were solved
You guys forgot one thing.Around 1860 the Federal Gov. GAVE all railroads FREE right-of-ways of 100 feet wide for where ever they wanted to proceed. In addition these railroads at the time could charge WHATEVER fees they saw if inasmuch as they were the only game in town. Indeed they were responsible for creating thousands of entire towns which are still in existence regardless of whether or not the railroads is still anywhere near that town today.Now, because other means of transportation have become more attractive (largely because of the railroad's refusal to comply with current demands), the railroads are crying foul.Think about how the railroads fought every progressive safety trend from automatic air brakes, to Janise Couplers, to roller bearings, to diesel engines.Each of these improvement vastly helped the RR industry, yet they fought it because they saw the effort was to eliminate jobs...regardless of whether those job requirements included running on the top of a rail car in winter, risking my life every second, only for the advantage of keeping my job before I die?.
That free land was only in the West. I guess the fact that our idiot government taxed the railroads to subsidize their competitors doesn't bother you at all. You deserve your highway gridlock and the miserable experience that airline travel has become today.
wrong
Yep he was an ass! Especially during the transition of PennCentral!
They say he was not a micro-manager, but, demanded results from his subordinates.
Gary Cost-- Stuart Saunders was chairman of the merged companies, not Perlman. Within two years of the ill fated merger, the federally funded Interstate Highway System and the St Lawrence Seaway, heavy taxation, old work rules and money losing passenger service put railroads in bankruptcy. Perlman was a fixer, he put the Rio Grande back into the black before his NYC days, then afterwards he did the same thing with Western Pacific before it merged with Union Pacific a year after he retired.
He was a damn good business man
What a cry baby
Must be a stupid truck driver.
i recall that bunkrupt merger prr & nyc it was a bad thing, even the workers from the 2 roads hated each other and the nyc power was all junk in disrepair those nyc engines many time would fail right after leaving the yard and thats fack not fiction, it was a very bad marriage from start to the end.