ROYAL ENFIELD HIMALAYAN HARD GEAR SHIFTS PROBLEM.
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- this is a detailed video on how to fix the hard gear shifts and poor clutch feel on the Royal Enfield Himalayan . in this video I describe the cause and the solution in great detail so that one can learn how to make finer adjustments to their machine later on. I very strongly believe that every single thing in nature has room for corrections and improvements and that no DESIGN is absolute. Hope this video saves all of you some headache and wish for many more happy riding experiences.
What Ben says and writes in the video is absolutely correct, I worked as a motorcycle mechanic myself for many years. It is important that the clutch cable runs in large curves and is cleaned and well oiled without coming into conflict with other components. We also tied the clutch levers 20 years ago and it really helps. Unfortunately there is no money to be made from this, so we are installing a completely new clutch and routing the Bowden cable more optimally! That's just how the market economy works. Good video, everything done right!
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Same issues for me too. Sometimes my gear is stuck on first gear when I start it in signals and a lot force is required to put it to second. Other gears are all fine. Also the sound during the shift 😓,... Reported this for 3 services but royal enfield service engineers told me it's normal 😂. But before watching this video itself I figured out and adjusted the clutch ply and it kind of fixed the issue but the sad part is I have to repeat this almost every 1000km 😶. I will also try the other tips you recommend next time. Thank you so much ✌️❤️
Cheers from Brazil! Your content is awesome. Here in Brazil we're having all sorts of problems with BS4, and Raoyal Brazil is not deliverying a good service level... Its always nice to learn to proper take care of our bikes on our on. Looking foward to more tweaks and tips.
thanks friend . posting another one today. a DIY
I'm also Brazilian. I have a problem where the bike stalls when downshifting. I made the adjustments as taught in the video. I hope it gets resolved.
Thank you for explaining it slowly and with clear and understandable English.
thank you for the kind words friend.
The final thing holding the clutch lever in speaks volumes . They have their calculations wrong on the position of the clutch , especially if you leave it on the side stand . Good vid .
I have tried this method of rerouting the clutch cable when you use handlebar riser to eliminate the clunky noise while shifting the gear and it works. However There is another alternative to this method. Why don't you replace with classic 350 cc's clutch cable which is compatible and longer? You will feel the clutch action will be much softer & smoother.
Stay safe and enjoy the ride.
Do you have the OEM part-number for the longer clutch cable ( classic 350) ?
@@powermickel you can call and ask a nearby RE service center . They also sell it . That's one of the good things about RE service centers . They'll sell you all the spare parts.
1st and 2nd gear shift in the city is somewhat irritating like you said. Thank you very much for the video.
glad that the video helped.
You are really a Masterbrain for himalayan it helped me in maintaining my Himalayan
Glad to hear that buddy
I just bought a 2022 BS6 HIMALAYAN two days ago it has 179 kilometers and the shift from 1-2 is awful.
I will try your tips. Thank you for sharing. cheers from Colombia South America
do the above mentioned and more importantly ACCLIMATIZE to the new motorcycles shifting characteristics.
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN I found that if I shift slow it shift perfect.
Cheers from Colombia South America
Just tested it after your fix advice, Thanks a lot Ben, this is great. Rides better now. the clutch still makes a weird woofing noise sometimes pulling away at first gear, will do the 24 hr lock on thebar.Love your videos, Thanks
yes , that should free up the sticking clutch plates . but remember to dump the clutch and ride hard the next day for a couple of miles . Also , try this remedy a couple of more times if needed.
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN here a videoof the next days, th-cam.com/video/LIdtT_19U5k/w-d-xo.html
on the top of the hill you can hear the odd (dog woof) sound the clutch still makes, when I move from standing stil releasing the clutch. weird, bike is new 350 miles only
@@BartMassee the dog woof is perfectly normal on this one . Engine sounds depend on a lot of factors so don’t bother as long as they are not binding or sticking .
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN Its a bit sticky pulling away from a stop when there is some force needed. Current,y have the clutch in for 20 hours, thank you Ben, I love your videos! did the oil change without any issues.. do not dare to attempt the valve tune yet......will let Triumph Seattle handle that first one. Is it oke to put a few extra miles on it over 350? (300 miles initial adjust and check)
very useful your video and easy to understand .Many useful details and tips .Thanks from Brazil
Glad that these videos help fellow bikers 😊🙏
Hey Ben, I have BS 3 Himalayan and I was facing the trouble in shfits while in 1st and 2nd gear while riding. I will definitely try your ideas given. thanks in advance
Sure friend. These tips are universally accepted solutions for hard gear shifts on any bike . Will def make a difference. But if you have a BS3 the easiest way forward is to get your carb pilot mixture and idle air mixture right ( tuned electronically with the help of a digital tachometer) . Take it to a GOOD mech and get it tuned
Hi Ben on older Brit bikes we would tie the clutch leaver in overnight if we were going on a ride the next day it really does work.
Thank you for the mention 🙏
Thank you very much for all that great advice. You have a lovely way of presenting. I don't have a problem with gear changes on my Himalayan but I'm off out to check the free play, routing and relaxation :) anyway.
thank you for the kind words friend.
All good point but I'll have to respectfully disagree on the first solution. The position of the lever can be changed by rotating the barrel of the linkage and that should be tried first.
If you put the linkage back together at anything less than 90 degrees from where it connects to the transmission you'll be effectively lowering the pressure or torque used to change gears with each shift, no matter what boots you use. :-)
I know this because mine has to be at the highest setting to accept size 47 motocross boots in order to upshift at all. Great video!
Thank you very much..I have so much expectation from your channel when you're starting out. You exceeded my expectation.🙏
Mahideep Ranasinha thanks for such honest appreciation friend . I am truly grateful for all the love that I am getting from all of you guys . 😊🙏❤️
Very helpful tips. I oiled my clutch cable, this made it much smoother in operation.
Yes. Also , check out a video I made on DRY LUBING CLUTCH CABLE .
APPRECIATE THIS TECHNICAL ADVISE ONT THE CLUTCH & THE GEAR SHIFT-OR POSITION PLS REVERT ON WHICH YEAR OF MFG MODEL THIS ISSUE IS I MEAN 2029 / 2020 , ONCE AGAIN THANKS FOR AN DETAILED KNOW HOW , REGARDS, UMESH , PUNE MAHARASHTRA
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I reduced the gear lever angle like you showed and it worked wonders. Thank you!
glad to hear that friend
I used to have a honda cbf250 which had a gammy clutch. It would bind and not fully disengage but only sometimes. The problem was the bike was speced for 20w50 oil and i used 10w40. Everyone said it would be fine etc but the thicker oil was needed or the plates warped due to un-even swelling (i think the oil was "squeezed" out overnight but the lower half of the plate is submerged. If i tied the clutch lever it was way better in the morning. It might need to be thicker to cling to the plate???). Himalayans need 15w50 i believe so maybe a similar thing is happening? Clutches are mysterious... once it was warped it needed plates changed tho :/. Certainly the worst culprit was shell helix fully synthetic 10w40 which should have been slippery!
Thanks for your help !! Have BS3 Himalayan with a very hard gear shifting!! Had riden only 15k kilometers and have changed the clutch assembly!! Will try your recommendation as well !! Hope it works for my machine !!
It will work 100%
As always your videos are appreciated from the chilean Patagonia !!!... I have a question .... It´s normal for the gear box sound when going from N to 1 gear ....even when the engine is hot I my Himalayan BS4 ......
Any comments are appreciated .... I did everything indicated in the video
Yes that’s perfectly normal. This video was for 1-2,2-3 shifts . And thanks for the love ☺️🙏
Great video and tutorial Thank you very much from Chile !!!!
Glad it helped friend 👍
One thing i noticed with the clutch cable is the route it takes. If its installed in the wrong wrong route, gets jammed between the steering limiting snub, damaging it leading to fast failure.
Excellent stuff. Thanks Ben 🙏🏼
The ziptie is missing in mine! Thanks for showing it😳
Thank a lot from USA , it helped alot , very good video
Glad to hear that friend 👍
People who rides Pulsar 200 ns don't even bother about this. Bro it's a common issue, with each engine oil change the engine becomes smooth. Try changing oil once in every 2.5 k kms or go for a better grade oil, most service centre motos top-up oil and say they changed oil. Better get oil changed by yourself.
hey ben thanks for all the videos that you make its super helpful and Ive become addicted to your content.
I have an issue with my forks, I bought a used 2021 b6 himalyan and i think the last owner might have dropped it (nothing major) but the handle bar was bent so I changed it when I took the bike and got it serviced (second service) the last owner only had 1k kms on the bike.
now when I ride it, it pulls to the right and i have a pain in my right shoulder blade post my rides
how can i fix it or what could be the issue ?
The forks are twisted . That’s why you are subconsciously pushing on your right hand to balance the vehicle . Get this sorted by a SEASONED mech in your area . Describe the same to him and he will know what to do
Quiet nicely explained its really helpful Ben
Cheers to you
glad that it helped .
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN btw M Jayesh the one who disturbs you on FB messenger
Understood. Adjust "Nuts" periodically. ;)
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The thumbnail : hard gearshifts
Me : yes yes yes yes yes yessssssss fuckkknngggh yesssssssssss soften shit up
😂 yup , that’s the only lacking in RE’S now . They seemed to have done a fantastic job with everything else .
great video 👏🏻 with many useful tips ! thank u man 👌🏻
glad that it helped.
Hi Ben, thanks for the vid. I'll look into getting some risers and will follow your very helpful instructions about the clutch cable. Cheers.
Good luck friend!
thank you very much brazil thanks friend for the detailed video
leojbs santos glad that the video helped friend 😊
Great stuff Ben, I love your videos - r u planning to do some rear break lever adjustment and offroad setting recommendations session? I find my lever a little bit off when driving standing up off road, I guess I should raise it or change MC pressure, but I'm interested im more formal advise...
Keep'm comming brother!
Hi Guy, will make a dedicated video on off road tweaking that needs to be done on the motorcycle . And yes you HAVE to raise the lever position by about 5 mm (subjective matter) if you plan to do high speed trail riding . slow speed technical stuff , i would have it adjusted to factory position.
Having watched this i just have to comment. i know you aren't featuring chain adjustment but, i can't help but notice that the chain, considering the bike is on the centre stand, is far too tight, it should have sag in it so that when the bike is on it's wheels and therefore the chain tension changes it isn't over tight. The chain is best adjusted while the bike is on it's wheels and preferably with some weight on it. The other thing is, doing that tying back thing with the clutch lever will achieve nothing whatsoever other that stress the clutch cable for a very long period, something it was not designed to do. Please, if you are going to do an informational video, please make sure what you are advising has some merit and is correct.
yes correct, i am not featuring a chain adjustment here . Also if you do not know what tying the lever to the bar does to a sticky clutch then you should def TRY THIS out on a bike that has been sitting too long without being ridden and its clutch wont come loose.
First off, i haven't got a sticky clutch and if i did have i would investigate why that is and rectify it. Secondly, as i said doing as you suggest will have no other effect on the clutch other than possibly causing the clutch cable to stretch.
Tying the cable, even loosely, can direct force that was being used to move the cable when the lever is pulled into increasing tension on the cable. Yes, cables will wear more but, it will perform the task required in a more consistent manner.
The formulation of the plates is the most likely root cause of this issue. So, yes, moving to a different composition may correct it. Also, moving to a beefier cable could improve clutch actuation without resorting to tying the cable.
That being said, both of those solutions require expenditure of cash. Ben's solution is quick, cheap, and appears to be effective. Yes, probably at the cost of reduced life of the cable but, it's very practical and immediate. Two important considerations when out and about on a bike.
Just found your channel, Ben. I like your pragmatic and diligent approach as well as your honorable humility. I'm looking forward to more of your wonderful sharing.
VT, USA
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After further contemplation on this, the comments about oils and stickiness increasing with older oils are correct.
I still like this economical and quick fix but, it is a good idea to change your oil if things are getting sticky. In fact if my oil has gotten to this point, i usually through some Motor Flush through it as well to make sure everything is cleaned out.
Have any of you gone this route as well?
Hey thanks for your tips ben...will try these and comeback for a feedback
Would you say that these fixes will help with downshifting? Sometimes it's hard to downshift into second and then first. I will miss them or they will not engage at all, with normal downshifting.
Hi bro, I have purchased Himalayan bs6 2days back and while applying the 1st & 2nd gears it makes noise and lags power while giving throttle in 2nd gear . Is there something I can fix it ?
Any link for the visor extender you are using?
Also how helpful is it?
Hey Ben! Thanks for this very helpful and detailed guide. What is your opinion on not tying the clutch cable at all? After I installed handlebar risers my cable was too taut and the clutch and gearshifts became hard so to free the cable I cut the factory zipties. Now my clutch cable is not tied at all and the clutch feels much better. Is there risk of damage if the cable hangs free? If so I'll purchase some zipties and tie it loose as you've shown. The Himalayan is my first bike and I couldn't have asked for a better source of guidance on how to maintain and run the bike properly. I really appreciate your work!
Karan Dhingra if there is no pinching anywhere then you can let it hang . Move handlebar left to right quite aggressively and see if the cable gets stuck somewhere . If all is well leave it the way it is .
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN I tried doing this and the cable doesn't snag anywhere so I'm going to leave it as is. Thanks!
Hey Ben - my question might be unrelated to the topic of the video but the circular thigh-pad caught my attention. Can you share the pointer to that or is it custom (DIY) ? Is there a video where its mentioned that I can check.
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Bro .. really a nice solution . I replaced orignal exhuast with red rooster vertex exhaust for my himalayan(odo km was 3500) ,used without db killer and my engine noice changed a little . Is it normal or should I make any changes ? Plss help with me this bro
U need to use a dB killer for sure if you want your engine in good health also to not be on the wrong side of the law . Get a dB killer from your local 2 wheeler spare parts market or get one made .
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN my odo is now 4300 kms bro . Can I change back to Red rooster now? . Do I need to do anything about that engine noice change ?
Very informative video, thanks bro👍
glad it helped brother.
I have issue with gears when I shift they shift clunky and stuck sometimes what should I do brother I have an interceptor.
do all that you see in this video and also give the bike sometime . it takes 4-6 thousand FIX for the gear box to become refined . also learn how to improve shifting gears on your bike. each bike is different . observe keenly and you will understand what works and what doesn't . repeat what works and things will slowly start working for you.
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN I shift perfectly on my t100 as well as my interceptor 650 but my interceptor 650 has a gear shifting problem since the day I boughtit . And I don’t understand what’s the issue . and I tried each and every way by adjusting the chain slag and the shifter position and also my clutch cable and it’s play where I keep it to 4mm as recommended in it’s manual . And my bike has another issue when it heats up normally like other bike once in utility. When I turn off the engine and crank it up after some time it starts but the engine struggles and keeps trying to stay on a constant 1200 rpm . And shuts down again then I have to twist the throttle a bit and then crank it up then it starts . Please brother help me with this issues I’m not at all satisfied whit my interceptor.
Whats that round thing sticked at the side of your fuel tank..
Any buying link...
Please share
Hey hi you doing a great job
can you suggest good quality hand guard for RE Himalayan i have recently bought Himalayan BS-6 so want to fit some accessories on it.
thank you friend. bandidospitstop.com/collections/hand-protectors/products/acebis-hand-protector-black?variant=18056988721225
ON TWO WHEELS BEN thank you 😊
Aman Rana. These maybe 500 rs cheaper than RE hand guards but the company accessory looks good and look sturdier.
nihal ahammed ohh thank you for the suggestion bro i will think about it.
If You don't mind let me know where did you buy the side mirror ? 🙂
Why would anyone want to lower the shift lever on adventure bike?
Adventure bike means big adventure boots and they need extra room so you can gey underneeth the shiftet.
Same on xpulse...
Awesome info!
Glad it was helpful!
Does this void the warranty?
Hi are you facing any issues with Coil getting burned is there any permanent solution mine got burned two times please help
i havent faced this issue . but pls add another 200 mls of oil to your engine and upgrade to the newest coil from the BS6.
ON TWO WHEELS BEN Thank you sure will give it a try if you find any tips or tricks please do share it with us
Thank you so much 🙏
Surely out of context, But
does maintaining low fuel affect the motorcycle affect it?
And also
will filling my tank to full every time is mandatory?
low fuel levels affect fuel pressure in fuel pump. this results in poor low rpm ride quality which can at times be confused for transmission issues
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN oh so maintaining full tank is advisable right?
Rishi Odisho half and above
Amazing content !!
Glad you liked it
Life saver ben
Hello Ben.i am facing an issue while down shifting sometimes from 4th to 3rd or 2nd to 1st.any idea or what should be the recommendation for this.i am also from Chennai by the way ↕️ .
adjust clutch freeplay to 3mm and not more.
Helpful video!
Glad it was helpful!
My himalayan gear goes neutral some times while shifting 4th to 5th plz help..
Give it time . 3-5 k kilometers and all will be well .
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN hi ben a reply would be really appreciated, facing the same issue, clocked 5.5k kms done with second service but still hitting false neutrals while shifting from 4 to 5th gear sometimes
Hi Ben, I am facing issues while shifting from the 4th to the 5th gear, the gear doesn't shift at all, and I have to lower down the gear and then again shift up. Help would be appriciated
That could be a problem with your gear shift selector mechanism . Pls check the related components . You might have to change the gear selector .
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN Thanks
Can I fit slipper clutch in my Himalayan?
Plz give me suggestion
Haven’t thought of it yet and don’t know anyone who has done it either . Watch my ALTERNATIVE CLUTCH LUBRICATION METHOD video if you want to make the clutch draw lighter
thank you 😊 sir
What the link of the 12v cigret lighter how much it cost,
Please can it be possible to share the buying link
bikenbiker.com
Will the heat from the the exhaust pipe affect/damage the newly rerouted clutch wire?
not at all.
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN Thanks. Will try it definitely! 😊
Sir i have a very hard clutch it's very difficult to pull in play in traffic and long rides plz help me with a solution
if it doesn't get better after you have done what you see in this video. then clearly your clutch plates and friction plates are binding . or may be your clutch basket is shot . change the entire kit, not just the plates .
Please suggest any heat resistant paint for Himalayan exhaust.
anurag deb sorry friend. Had very bad experience with the last one I tried on my R15 long time ago . It just will go away in no time. Don’t remember the brand and don’t know any good one personally .
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN thanks for ur response.
Hi Ben! Nice video as always.. I have a question, actually didn't understand the increase in the leverage by just changing the angular position of the gear lever... As torque is F*R and you didn't change either of the quantity. Plz correct me if I am missing any point...
yes you are right about the exact torque being generated at the shifter . But what i was talking about was the the ease with with the Ankle can generate the same torque in this position . its like a better angle when we use wrenches to generate the same torque.
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN yes.. that was I was trying to make out👍
Thank you
What if we instal pro spec easy clutch? Will it help?
No , that is ONLY TO REDUCE the effort to pull the lever
Hi, I have REH BSIII and already adjusted the gear lever as you have, but the brake lever is still in stock position.
There is a mismatch between both levers angle. It's awkward as both feet are in different position. Can you think of a solution please.
Thank you
Chandramohan A hi friend . That’s a conditioning problem . More in the head than in reality . You are so used to symmetry that you become very irritated the moment you are to work with asymmetry . Think of this while your left hands job is to press and release a lever only hour right hand is continuously twisting and turning something at a different angle than your left. Also it does the job of pulling in the brakes at times . But you have conditioned your brain to accept it as normal . Like wise if you train yourself to accept it it will work for you .
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN thanks for the detailed reply. As you said it's more in the head, but when it comes to my ride I have an OCD problem 😜 with symmetry and everything has to be right.
Thanks
My Himalayan does not go from 1 to neutral easyly pls give me a solution
Binding clucth plates ( drag ) . Perform the last exercise in the video regularly till the problem goes away
Thx will try
Which tyre is best please recommend
RONY SARKAR totally depends on your use / terrain . Ceat is by far the best for an all round option . The next is an MRF ( again all round tyre ) . Tim sun 822 TS if you do a lot of dry off road terrain as well with road . Timsun ts820 true dual purpose knobby tyre ( if you do a lot of dirt / mud / slush )
RONY SARKAR the below mentioned are the economic pocket friendly options .
Where did you get your crash guard from?
stock .
Himalayan Bs6 facing same problem .. hard gear shifts
I do love your videos. But Please edit your videos to a little shorter..🙏🙏🙏
I will try my best dear brother.
Bro. Can we install a hydraulic clutch for it
Manoj Reddy yes you can . I have seen guys in the west and in the east ( bangkok, Singapore ) do it . But no personal experience with the same . If you get the right kit then it’s not a difficult job .
Thanks for replying I think we should import it from Bangkok or Singapore.
be careful you dont get your hands dirty
Thanks bro I newely owned it
Glad I could help
Use bajaj pulsar 220 gear
will try friend
my gear was smooth again after i changed my engine oil
Yes , new engine oil helps with increased lubrication and better running of engine . But the clutch plates sticking will come back in another 500 kms or more . Change to a motul 5100 and you will see the difference
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN thanks for the tip sir
Better engine oil = better gear shifts !
Not as simple as that . Oil does make things better but it isn’t a finite deal .
@@ONTWOWHEELSBEN Closer tolerances during manufacturing.
Dude ur shift lever is too low.
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Gear shift hard issue can be solved without all this trouble just Shift to Motul or Liquimoly Oil as RE LiquidGun is the worst oil and that's the best option it smoothens the engine and u will feel the ride comfort
i have used motul on atleast 20 motorcyles of mine . ran a business of selling performance oils for over 3 years. i do know what difference it brings about in the transmission. but this video is about a lot more that you can do to fix the issue once and for all.
Dear friend, oils can influence gear shifting only if you don't change the oil for long time or using different spec oil. New fresh oil mineral /synthetic eases gear shift for sure.
GM Ben, we can simultaneously try by replacing existing gear shift with pulsar 180's shift lever which is slightly longer than REH's shift lever. This has been successfully done by monu sagar , a famous delhi based mechanic youtuber.
Shaji K.Damodaran yes uncle . I have tried the 180’s lever on mine after watching Monu’s video and it worked like a charm except for quick aggressive upshifts . I never could understand why . So I lowered the position just like I did in this video and found that i couldn’t do quick downshifts now my . Something about the length of the lever was just a little bit more for the Himalayan’s transmission I guess. The perfect length would be right in between the stock one’s and the pulsar’s.
Varying the length of shift lever definitely eases the shift process due to increased torque applied. Your observation appears right on the shifter.