I have an old HS friend may he rest in piece who has a house on the Pit he was a World Class Glass Blower. He invited me to come and fish. Sadly life got in the way, but I have good memories of the 16 to 18 inch he'd catch tubing in front of his house.
I saw you fishing a Frenchie so go to Fly Fish Food and watch the originator tie one up. Super Simple pattern and by changing colors you can really cover them all. Between a Frenchie/Pheasant tail, Walts Worm/Hare's Ear and thread or foil Perdigons and you have 90% of small Euro nymphing covered. All you need is quailty bobbins, whip finisher and scissors I would recommend Loon. After that unfortunately, materials and hooks and tungsten beads start adding up. I good jig hook in 12-16 and some gold slotted beads etc all come in ~$10 packs. So it migth cost $40 for the materials for one style of fly, but you can tie as many as you have hooks and beads and can afford. The per fly cost is very low, but you end up with tons of feathers and dubbing etc. Apparently you already have a vice but don't skimp on tools. Buy good ones and you'll enjoy using them for many years.
Ha all very true, we don't really tie because it's cheaper. For me it's about unlimited supply. I can take more risks, loose a fly and not care too much. I can make more when I get home.
Your skills for both euro and filming our on par! I think it will only improve to incorporate a tying video but, I lov to tie so for me it's fun to watch all aspects of "fly fishing".. I saw you got a vice in your "newer" vids so let's go dude start tyin um up! Maybe Shorts!?!? Take care Eric✌
Another awesome video and a nice day of fishing. Your production is something to strive for. Any questions you had about the fly tying stuff I'm always around.
@@driftstone That depends a lot on budget and what sort of functionality you're looking for. I started out with a Griffin Superior 1A and it was a great little entry vise that will hold pretty much any hook. I now tie on a Renzetti Traveler 2000 and love it. The rotary function really speeds up your tying, especially when you're putting out volume. I'd look at all the options from Griffin, Renzetti, or Regal and decide which one fits your needs best. The Griffin Mongoose and Renzettis are true rotary (the hook spins along the same axis) which is nice for even wraps of materials. Both of them use a cam style jaw. The difference is price, with the renzettis ranging from somewhat to a lot more pricey. The regals use a lever style jaw which is definitely nice for getting the hook in and out of the vise. I think this style jaw is superior to the cam style ones. They rotate for fly examination, but aren't true rotary so you'll be making wire and material wraps manually. All that being said, if you're looking to start up for a few hundred dollars, I'd rather have a vise that is capable of holding a hook, and spending more on quality materials. It's the fly that fishes not the vise. If you're looking to get thousands deep then throwing some of it into a forever vise might be worth it. It took me about three years of non-stop tying and practice to get to the point where I felt I had out paced my 1A and needed that upgrade.
Ha, I love it. I love nerding out on this stuff. That's some really solid info, I had no idea what the difference on jaw-types and rotating vs non-rotating. Do you prefer a pedestal or c-clamp? Do you use a bobbin holder? I had no idea you could go thousands deep with this stuff. I haven't started looing at the materials yet, I assume that's where a lot of the expense is.
@@driftstone Most pedestals I've seen are pretty good nowadays. If you plan to tie in more than one spot, a pedestal is the way to go. However, they will slightly tilt if you crank down on them with heavy thread. I only really notice it on streamers. C-clamps are good if you plan to tie in one spot all the time or have C-clamp friendly options in the spots you plan to tie. Definitely don't need to go in on materials that much either, especially early. A few good quality materials will cover you enough to fill out all your boxes with your staple patterns. Other than hackle, most materials go between $1-5 and can tie dozens or even hundreds per each purchase. The thousands start getting invested when the creative juices get going and you start designing your own patterns. Or if you become a hackle collector. Luckily I'm not the latter yet... The best advice I could give when starting up is to invest in a good bobbin right away. The cheap ones break your thread and don't allow you to fine tune your thread tension. I'd 100% go with either a Rite-Bobbin or a Stonfo Elite Bobbin (which I use).
Nice video buddy. I love the pit. I’m down on the 3 a lot this time of year. Been wanting to hit down on section 4 but they are dumping the water down there now. Maybe i will see you on the water sometime
Hey PD, thanks for the kind words! I honestly don't know how it compares. I have only spent a little time in 3 and I didn't have a staff so it was miserable. I'd guess it's very similar. Good luck in Oct, I'm wanting to explore 4 and 5 more as well. Looking at Google Earth, much if those sections are tucked deep in a canyon so it might take some work to get on the water, but it might be worth getting on water so rarely fished.
I didn't see the second part of your question. Oak Flat access I took goes down a decent single track trail, but when you reach the bank it gets into a bunch of willows and black berry brambles. I'm not sure how easy it would be to walk past the rocky cliff lined shores that are both up and down river from that access.
Looks like a fun day on the river! Your day here reminds me of my up and coming video (part 3) of the creek I am fishing. The last part, I was catching a good number of 4-6 inches. Its nice to catch but I feel bad when I see that little guy being flung out of the water. :)
Nice, I'll keep my eye open for it. I feel ya on the little guys. I've been working on a more "refined" hookset. At least when I'm tightlinin, you don't need much to set the hook well, but sometimes I get excited :D
Ah good question. My top two have been the green or tan dredge and a new friend gave me some sexy walt's he tied. They've been very effective. Other flies have been peeking caddis, Gunslingers and hares ears. Pretty much any slick bodied and weighted nymph has been the ticket. They sink faster and get in front of the fish sooner.
lol noticed a few issues, but your fishing, sights, sounds and learning is worth way more than the Fly s*** in the Pepper.
I have an old HS friend may he rest in piece who has a house on the Pit he was a World Class Glass Blower. He invited me to come and fish. Sadly life got in the way, but I have good memories of the 16 to 18 inch he'd catch tubing in front of his house.
That's pretty awesome!
If I’ve never tried any of the pit sections, which would you recommend?
It honestly doesn't matter. The whole thing fishes well.
Hey Eric if your ever in the sac area I have a Griffin A1 vise, your welcome to if you want it. I'm on a renzetti traveler now. Thanks for sharing.
That's very generous of you, I ended up grabbing a Peak vise and so far I'm happy with it. I have sooooooo much to learn :D
I saw you fishing a Frenchie so go to Fly Fish Food and watch the originator tie one up. Super Simple pattern and by changing colors you can really cover them all. Between a Frenchie/Pheasant tail, Walts Worm/Hare's Ear and thread or foil Perdigons and you have 90% of small Euro nymphing covered. All you need is quailty bobbins, whip finisher and scissors I would recommend Loon. After that unfortunately, materials and hooks and tungsten beads start adding up. I good jig hook in 12-16 and some gold slotted beads etc all come in ~$10 packs. So it migth cost $40 for the materials for one style of fly, but you can tie as many as you have hooks and beads and can afford. The per fly cost is very low, but you end up with tons of feathers and dubbing etc. Apparently you already have a vice but don't skimp on tools. Buy good ones and you'll enjoy using them for many years.
Ha all very true, we don't really tie because it's cheaper. For me it's about unlimited supply. I can take more risks, loose a fly and not care too much. I can make more when I get home.
Your skills for both euro and filming our on par! I think it will only improve to incorporate a tying video but, I lov to tie so for me it's fun to watch all aspects of "fly fishing"..
I saw you got a vice in your "newer" vids so let's go dude start tyin um up! Maybe Shorts!?!? Take care Eric✌
Ha, thanks Steve! I've thought about making tying videos...but I haven't gone past that. It's definitely on my radar :D
Nice video mate! Really nice editing! Just subbed! Looking forward to the next one!
Thank you kind sir. I followed you back as well. I love seeing how differently waters get fished around the world!
No Problem mate! Thank you for the support back! We really appreciate it!
Love it!
That's my man! I appreciate you!
Another awesome video and a nice day of fishing. Your production is something to strive for. Any questions you had about the fly tying stuff I'm always around.
I will definitely hit you up. Can you suggest a good vice? Choosing one seems unrealistically intimidating.
@@driftstone That depends a lot on budget and what sort of functionality you're looking for. I started out with a Griffin Superior 1A and it was a great little entry vise that will hold pretty much any hook. I now tie on a Renzetti Traveler 2000 and love it. The rotary function really speeds up your tying, especially when you're putting out volume.
I'd look at all the options from Griffin, Renzetti, or Regal and decide which one fits your needs best. The Griffin Mongoose and Renzettis are true rotary (the hook spins along the same axis) which is nice for even wraps of materials. Both of them use a cam style jaw. The difference is price, with the renzettis ranging from somewhat to a lot more pricey.
The regals use a lever style jaw which is definitely nice for getting the hook in and out of the vise. I think this style jaw is superior to the cam style ones. They rotate for fly examination, but aren't true rotary so you'll be making wire and material wraps manually.
All that being said, if you're looking to start up for a few hundred dollars, I'd rather have a vise that is capable of holding a hook, and spending more on quality materials. It's the fly that fishes not the vise. If you're looking to get thousands deep then throwing some of it into a forever vise might be worth it. It took me about three years of non-stop tying and practice to get to the point where I felt I had out paced my 1A and needed that upgrade.
That ended up being a novel, but I really do love this stuff haha.
Ha, I love it. I love nerding out on this stuff. That's some really solid info, I had no idea what the difference on jaw-types and rotating vs non-rotating.
Do you prefer a pedestal or c-clamp? Do you use a bobbin holder?
I had no idea you could go thousands deep with this stuff. I haven't started looing at the materials yet, I assume that's where a lot of the expense is.
@@driftstone Most pedestals I've seen are pretty good nowadays. If you plan to tie in more than one spot, a pedestal is the way to go. However, they will slightly tilt if you crank down on them with heavy thread. I only really notice it on streamers.
C-clamps are good if you plan to tie in one spot all the time or have C-clamp friendly options in the spots you plan to tie.
Definitely don't need to go in on materials that much either, especially early. A few good quality materials will cover you enough to fill out all your boxes with your staple patterns. Other than hackle, most materials go between $1-5 and can tie dozens or even hundreds per each purchase.
The thousands start getting invested when the creative juices get going and you start designing your own patterns. Or if you become a hackle collector. Luckily I'm not the latter yet...
The best advice I could give when starting up is to invest in a good bobbin right away. The cheap ones break your thread and don't allow you to fine tune your thread tension. I'd 100% go with either a Rite-Bobbin or a Stonfo Elite Bobbin (which I use).
The filming, editing, and sfx are killer dude, 100% jealous :) great video!
Thx man, it makes me happy that you've noticed those details.
Great video dude, you have some for real nice editing skills, I just subscribed 😎
Hey Pete, thanks for stopping by and the sub. Maybe I'll get down to your neck of the woods one of these days.
Nice video buddy. I love the pit. I’m down on the 3 a lot this time of year. Been wanting to hit down on section 4 but they are dumping the water down there now. Maybe i will see you on the water sometime
I cannot wait for the flows on 4 to go back to normal. It's my favorite section. 5 is great too, but I like to avoid the waters around Big Bend.
Great video! Is that section any easier to wade and walk the shore than #3? I was planning on fishing IV and V sometime in October for the first time.
Hey PD, thanks for the kind words! I honestly don't know how it compares. I have only spent a little time in 3 and I didn't have a staff so it was miserable. I'd guess it's very similar.
Good luck in Oct, I'm wanting to explore 4 and 5 more as well. Looking at Google Earth, much if those sections are tucked deep in a canyon so it might take some work to get on the water, but it might be worth getting on water so rarely fished.
I didn't see the second part of your question. Oak Flat access I took goes down a decent single track trail, but when you reach the bank it gets into a bunch of willows and black berry brambles. I'm not sure how easy it would be to walk past the rocky cliff lined shores that are both up and down river from that access.
Hi Eric, I really like your videos. I'm going to be a Redding resident here pretty soon. Looking forward to trying some of these spots out myself.
That's awesome, you're coming to some fantastic fly fishing water! Let me know if you have any questions when you arrive!
Looks like a fun day on the river! Your day here reminds me of my up and coming video (part 3) of the creek I am fishing. The last part, I was catching a good number of 4-6 inches. Its nice to catch but I feel bad when I see that little guy being flung out of the water. :)
Nice, I'll keep my eye open for it. I feel ya on the little guys. I've been working on a more "refined" hookset. At least when I'm tightlinin, you don't need much to set the hook well, but sometimes I get excited :D
@@driftstone > You and me both. I would say though, I get more excited then refined the majority of the time.
@@familyflyties3913 haha, there's something about being on the water and feeling that line go tight that brings out the kid in us :D
What are the top 5 flies you have been using, trout like your menu.
Ah good question. My top two have been the green or tan dredge and a new friend gave me some sexy walt's he tied. They've been very effective.
Other flies have been peeking caddis, Gunslingers and hares ears. Pretty much any slick bodied and weighted nymph has been the ticket. They sink faster and get in front of the fish sooner.
Great video. I subbed. Wish I had trout in my area.
Thanks man, I really appreciate that.
I feel ya on the trout, but I can say some of the same things about species in your neck of the woods. 🙏
flows are not too high
No, not at all