Consciousness & the Social Brain | Michael Graziano | TEDxCornellUniversity

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  • Michael Graziano is a scientist, author, and ventriloquist, who has studied the brain for over thirty years. His TEDxCornellUniversity talk focuses on how a collection of neurons might perceive subjective consciousness in itself and other agents, how consciousness is a part of our social selves, and how we might build conscious machines in the future. Michael Graziano is a scientist, author, and ventriloquist, who has studied the brain for over thirty years. His TEDxCornellUniversity talk focuses on how a collection of neurons might perceive subjective consciousness in itself and other agents, how consciousness is a part of our social selves, and how we might build conscious machines in the future. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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  • @mrkristopher
    @mrkristopher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I absolutely love this theory of consciousness. Everything else I've read and watched feels like people trying to explain something they desperately want to believe but can't possibly prove.
    Consciousness and imagination as an evolutionary means to an end. THIS makes sense to me. Thanks so much for doing what you do, sir.

    • @soldatheero
      @soldatheero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol he explains nothing and has no novel ideas

  • @TomaszZiokowskiMoorglade
    @TomaszZiokowskiMoorglade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For years I thought I'd never understand consciousness. And then a puppet monkey explained it to me. What a time to be aware.
    Seriously, this theory is one of the best things I've heard and read about in my life (and I highly recommend the book, "Consciousness and the Social Brain").

    • @jameslovell5721
      @jameslovell5721 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tomasz Ziółkowski I absolutely agree

    • @rauxmedia
      @rauxmedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keep looking. This guy is so clueless that it's almost unquantifiable.

    • @sirfranciscanadianbacon1468
      @sirfranciscanadianbacon1468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rauxmedia This is why I love the internet. Random guy discredits a published 30-year neuroscientist who teaches at Princeton, with zero explanation!

  • @jameslovell5721
    @jameslovell5721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think this dude has nailed it.

  • @gmattification
    @gmattification 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed this video, especially the approach to space exploration!

  • @captainzork6109
    @captainzork6109 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some philosophers of epistemology would say we indeed cannot ever access reality as it is, neither can we represent reality (via language) as it really is
    That is because all measurements and representations are underdetermined; we always lack precision or accuracy
    At best, we could say we live in a world which is really like an idealized version of the world. So, it is only logical the mind operates using imperfect, abstracted, perhaps idealized representations of the world

  • @ixmaxwardxi1977
    @ixmaxwardxi1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMGGG!!! This guy!!! Speaking our hearts out!!! Thanks doc for articulating it so much better 13:53!!! Another 3, have We inverted (me) trained our brain to notice, observe 3 predominately, or is this genetically predisposed? Or is it being trigger cause of external factors? Like you speaking about something I’m profoundly interested in? Seems like the last line!!! Last Question is the answer!!! More guidance thanks.#!!!😼3:25PM, 27-3-22.

  • @nickram5061
    @nickram5061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll watch this tomorrow

  • @fernandov1492
    @fernandov1492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't Kant said basically the same thing in the 18th century?
    As in "Transcendent/Transcendental"?

  • @annamaegold
    @annamaegold 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😳OMG Kevin!

  • @YouBetterThink
    @YouBetterThink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like the puppet show :) However how is this talk about a theory of what consciousness is? Having an evolutionary reason for why we may need something like consciousness is totally different than actually understanding it. Interesting how this professor says many people have a vested interest in keeping consciousness a mystery, while I often felt many scientists have a vested interest in coming up with some (unconvincing) explanation for it. Anyways thx for the talk!

    • @hasantekin7823
      @hasantekin7823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would suggest his book 'Rethinking Consciousness'.

    • @carlosenriquegonzalez-isla6523
      @carlosenriquegonzalez-isla6523 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Better that just think you should better do so, you can understand what was said in this talk

  • @JesseHBrewer
    @JesseHBrewer ปีที่แล้ว

    The wonderful thing about science is that theories can be unambiguously WRONG. The frustrating thing about science is that theories can never be unambiguously RIGHT. The best we can hope for is CONSENSUS. Philosophy is different: in philosophy, consensus IS truth, and consensus can never be wrong.

    • @carlosenriquegonzalez-isla6523
      @carlosenriquegonzalez-isla6523 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your comment is just the perfect example of the imperfection of the inner model of your own mind

    • @JesseHBrewer
      @JesseHBrewer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carlosenriquegonzalez-isla6523 - I bow to the perfection of your inner model of your own mind. Too bad it can only express disagreement in the form of insults.

  • @treesurgeon2441
    @treesurgeon2441 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ventriloquism more often indicates lack of awareness. Specifically of the self.

  • @ixmaxwardxi1977
    @ixmaxwardxi1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was waiting for me to make it 300 likes and this comment has to become 40 there we go and example of M Consciousness. finish time at 3:09PM, 27-3-22.#!!!😼

    • @ixmaxwardxi1977
      @ixmaxwardxi1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please it’s a joke, Or is it.#!!!😼

  • @Tuunyiii
    @Tuunyiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think we have very good reasons to respect the primacy of subjective experience aka consciousness by calling it a mistery... One would be to be loyal to common sense. "I think we understand what consciousness is." - "We" and "understanding" are subjective experiences taking place within consciousness.

  • @deepakkapurvirtualclass
    @deepakkapurvirtualclass ปีที่แล้ว

    Let me take the example of God.
    God has all the power, all the goodness, all the knowledge 'by default'. He hasn't worked hard for it. It's like a 'free fund'.
    Similarly, we have consciousness/free will as a 'free fund'. Thoughts come and go in our mind on their own. I myself don't know what thought will come into my mind, say after 5 minutes, 10 minutes etc. It's a 'free fund'.
    When thoughts come to our minds 'on their own', it 'seems' to us that we have thought them 'consciously'...

  • @ixmaxwardxi1977
    @ixmaxwardxi1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    (time stamp) At 12:22 makes it 2 3s M Consciousness!!! I’m so fascinated by this. It is true people would like to keep their M consciousnesss as a Mystery so they can believe in their make shift world. It’s the ability to accept and move beyond is what consciousness should be, trying to understand the reality, though it might shake our beloved believes. We need to always progress.#!!!🐸 Galaxyisxyz.#!!!

  • @TheGathly
    @TheGathly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, this was a video that said nothing at all. There was a puppet show, to show what anyone already knows, that yes, we see mind in various things from puppets to plants, and then a renaming of the "hard problem" into "the mysterious problem" and then a sci-fi fantasy about what may be possible some day.

  • @ixmaxwardxi1977
    @ixmaxwardxi1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:28PM imagine the possibility.#!!!😼 of shooting our Consciousness out of our galaxy!!! In an ai robot that can sustain gruelling extraterrestrial condition and trying to find Galactic civilisation!!! Build communities create home beyond our home, once done right human intact in their body could visit without being harmed. Mars is coming!!! This is so coo!!!.

    • @ixmaxwardxi1977
      @ixmaxwardxi1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whattt!!! It’s 3:33pm here in India as this was posted!!!

    • @ixmaxwardxi1977
      @ixmaxwardxi1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this M Consciousness? How is it happening, is the brain subconsciously targeting these time? 3:36PM, 27-3-22.

    • @ixmaxwardxi1977
      @ixmaxwardxi1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or is it that the comments are too much that it’s just out of sheer probability?.#!!!🤔

  • @hibaboubia2930
    @hibaboubia2930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This fairy non material contiousness is our spirits. That's why it's something we can not explain.

  • @rauxmedia
    @rauxmedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is a level of ignorance that is difficult to quantify. What passes for sophisticated, learned yet difficult-to-understand theories are often simply what they seem to be: pitiful hybrids of obfuscation, bad logic, and linguistic sleights of hand. Daniel Dennett has competition. Unbelievable.

    • @jimmarkwalder8341
      @jimmarkwalder8341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mark Lesseraux Indeed. I read the article in new science and was completely bemuddled. His whole approach presupposes consciousness.

    • @ClemensLode
      @ClemensLode 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jimmarkwalder8341 At what point of his theory is consciousness presupposed?

    • @MartinTHoffmann
      @MartinTHoffmann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To be honest, your comment seems quite obscure itself. I am curious what part of his theory you refer to, could you elaborate on where you see bad logic?

    • @Tuunyiii
      @Tuunyiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your comment made me laugh. I totally agree with you!

    • @badmittens5160
      @badmittens5160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. The Attention Schema Theory is a good explanation for why the brain is aware of certain things, but as an answer to the Hard Problem of Consciousness or the mysteries of Qualia, it indeed falls flat. It's abundantly clear that Professor Graziano doesn't fully understand the nature of the problem and how everything he says is achievable without any sort of conscious experience.

  • @soldatheero
    @soldatheero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes the same mistake as all materialist philosophers.. it is completely irrelevant whether or not are perceptions are accurate or not the point is that they are not material. simply saying oh well its an inaccurate model and dismissing it means nothing

    • @alexquellhorst8974
      @alexquellhorst8974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your argument for brain contents being entirely immaterial? Thoughts are materially influenced, propagated, and translated, so at one point do you think that the contents no longer possess materiality? I'm writing a paper on Graziano's account and am interested in your perspective.

    • @soldatheero
      @soldatheero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexquellhorst8974 if the substance of the universe is primarily mental than that is also true of the brain. So yes the brain does produce our particular mental state but the key is that the brain itself is produced by universal perception/mind. The universal mind projects matter and it creates matter and matter is the instrument by which it evolves its perception and that is why our brain acts as an instrument by which we can experience our conscious state

    • @alexquellhorst8974
      @alexquellhorst8974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@soldatheero Given that you're presupposing dualism, what evidence is there that the "substance of the universe" is mental, never mind *primarily* mental? It seems that you're advocating for a sort of unified consciousness view, which is not one that I'm presently sympathetic of.

    • @Andrea-fd2bw
      @Andrea-fd2bw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Perception is completely material, Electro chemical to be exact

    • @REDPUMPERNICKEL
      @REDPUMPERNICKEL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Andrea-fd2bw "Perception is completely material"
      Yes and no.
      I try to clarify...
      There is matter and there is movement.
      Matter is 'concrete', movement is abstract,
      they are not the same but neither can 'exist' without the other.
      Brain is to matter as mind is to movement.
      A frozen brain has no mind happening within it.
      ('Vanilla Sky' was dualistic nonsense (entertaining but
      needing excessive effort to suspend disbelief (for those of
      my science fiction loving philosophical persuasion))).
      Brain is the substrate necessary for any being conscious process.
      Have I been clear?
      (Or do I need to say things like
      'analogy' and 'thought' are synonymous, etc.)?