We Need To Talk About Ashley. Evolution of a Snake - Ep. 28 🐍

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
  • Evolution of a Snake, my podcast, makes it first appearance on the YT channel! Here's the full video accompaniment to our insanely detailed recap of the Ashley Leechin (aka noitsjustashley) drama. This was prompted by her uninvitation to the Grammys....but it ended up being so much more. Make sure to check out the podcast everywhere where streaming is available and support the podcast on Patreon!
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    Episode Description:
    "Buckle in, snakes. Madeline and Zack are doing a free-dive into one of the most unhinged places on the internet: Ashley Leechin's TikTok. You may know her for allegedly resembling Taylor Swift. Or, perhaps you know her for getting disinvited to the Grammys. Madeline is the bone collector, and she has unearthed the most incredible bones on this subject. It goes so much further, deeper, and weirder than you think. On this special episode of the Evolution of a Snake, we reprise Madeline's citizen journalism skills (made famous in noon roast on a Sunday) for yet another unhinged recap of internet mess. Girl, we are living."

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  • @itsiraa
    @itsiraa ปีที่แล้ว +360

    I NEED MADELINE’s SOCIALS PLEASE PIN THEM SHE IS SO FUNNY

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  ปีที่แล้ว +117

      TikTok: @madelizardqueen
      Twitter: @hoaxlakes
      She doesn't let the masses in on her personal IG, but she's often on the pod IG: @evolutionofasnake

    • @kerrisouth
      @kerrisouth 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@theswiftologistHi. How can I find Madeline's deep dive into The Alchemy? I have found the idea of that song being about Travis problematic from the beginning. Thanks!

    • @CatNagTaylorsVersion
      @CatNagTaylorsVersion วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kerrisouthon the lizard review, its on the free version on Spotify I think

  • @uravergeswiftie3408
    @uravergeswiftie3408 ปีที่แล้ว +835

    a whole video episode for us unpaying pigs? we eating good to night 😭

    • @elise9553
      @elise9553 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      😂😂😂

    • @ajshaniq
      @ajshaniq ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Unpaying pigs i know thats right 😭

    • @SummersFrost
      @SummersFrost ปีที่แล้ว +14

      REAL

    • @twisted9557
      @twisted9557 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      REAL LMAO😭

  • @LukeAlexander
    @LukeAlexander ปีที่แล้ว +475

    "this is not for tik tok, this is for the therapy couch" I'm dead 💀

    • @annaaolivia
      @annaaolivia ปีที่แล้ว +18

      u being a fan of this podcast is life

    • @ashleytisdalesbrokenheel
      @ashleytisdalesbrokenheel ปีที่แล้ว +4

      NO FRICKIN' WAY good to see you luke! :D

    • @Impond
      @Impond ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We Love Luke

    • @jumanaht8559
      @jumanaht8559 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      fuckin love this crossover

    • @sierracrum6040
      @sierracrum6040 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omg Luke I love him too

  • @finntheultimatediva
    @finntheultimatediva ปีที่แล้ว +459

    for all of us who are shaking the cup, and can’t afford the patreon, this is the greatest feast known to woman😘

  • @BobbyK19
    @BobbyK19 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    This specific recording of the Ashleygate story will be considered a landmark piece of journalism that defined the 21st century

  • @jon.callaghan4165
    @jon.callaghan4165 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    take a shot every time madeline says "i am the bone collector"

    • @MissteriousMisstress
      @MissteriousMisstress ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Or she's a wig. Hahaa

    • @jon.callaghan4165
      @jon.callaghan4165 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Missterious Misstress oh god, well all be so drunk at the end haha

    • @MissteriousMisstress
      @MissteriousMisstress ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @jon.callaghan speak for yourself- I'd be dead. Rip me hahah

    • @gabymerman9005
      @gabymerman9005 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Imagine taking a shot everytime she pushes her hair on the side. ICU.

  • @bellastrange7477
    @bellastrange7477 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    I am living for Madeline going off💀💀💀 i usually only have the audio of these episodes, but the visuals really give the punchiness this episode needed. We are all collectively gobsmacked.

  • @causeimnachoprincess
    @causeimnachoprincess ปีที่แล้ว +180

    the fact that her last name is leechin says it all

  • @KodiSwandaOfficial
    @KodiSwandaOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I really think that Taylor herself or Taylor's team had something to do with Ashley not being able to go to the Grammys

    • @allisonkrug9759
      @allisonkrug9759 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think so too

    • @crystalkadletc1944
      @crystalkadletc1944 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t know much about Ashley…well now I do, but 100% that was my first thought

  • @tiny306
    @tiny306 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I had to prepare myself to watch this knowing that y'all are going to be repeatedly saying my name in a negative way and thus having to reassure my brain that you are in fact not talking about me

    • @awoosh13
      @awoosh13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same tho 😂

    • @tiny306
      @tiny306 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@awoosh13 It's a hard time to be named Ashley 😪 I salute you comrade

  • @lau2955
    @lau2955 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I gotta say: I started listening to Taylor when Tim McGraw came out (I was a teenager) and I've never seen her live. I have literally gone to 2 live shows IN MY LIFE: Elton John and Ed Sheeran (Ed's in 2019 because I could finally pay it myself!! 😍). Same with physical CDs, I don't have CDs (only Queen and inherited from my dad! / Now I have TVs heeeheee). So yes I believe you can be a swiftie without tons of merch or live shows on your back. I never asked my parents for money when I was a student. Thank the world for youtube!!! 😮‍💨

    • @CVB6
      @CVB6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same, however I heard her for the first time with love story, and my first album I could own is Red TV following it with Midnights. Never seen anyone live, but love their tour videos. My parents never heave us allowance so I never had money, and since I a crippling with student debt, I can rarely afford her merchandise and other expensive things. So you can be a fan with out those things.

    • @mollypocrass4562
      @mollypocrass4562 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah I got to this point in the video, and the same thing with me. I couldn’t afford to go to a concert when I was younger, and wasn’t really active on Twitter until the pandemic. Nevertheless, I also have been a fan since Love Story.

    • @realone7488
      @realone7488 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      There’s a lot of classism in this fandom

    • @robynjeema
      @robynjeema ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same, just reached that point in the video. I have zero evidence, never went to a show, never owned merch. Know every word to every song and way too much about Taylor's life but if you look at my social media there won't be anything. I find that super weird? I don't know anyone who owns Taylor merch, or any merch at all cause we broke out here
      And we didn't have camera phones back then!!

  • @martynawozniak3597
    @martynawozniak3597 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    This hits different after seeing Ashley impersonating Taylor and being "escorted" by bodyguards...

    • @missmegicana
      @missmegicana ปีที่แล้ว +22

      LMAOO! i just came to rewatch this episode after that! i hope they talk about it at a later time bc i need Madeline to roast her ass for that

  • @LifeAsACarrie
    @LifeAsACarrie ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I did not expect to be fed so well on a random Tuesday. Thank you Zach & the bone collector 🙌🏻

  • @quinroseman7233
    @quinroseman7233 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    i have an even crazier theory, she’s not even a swiftie now. she views this as a job, she’s just pretending to like taylor cause it gives her clout. i think she saw folklore as a crutch for this new EMPIRE she would build. and honestly it’s kind of impressive

  • @juliaf8490
    @juliaf8490 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    She came up on my fyp a while back, when the whole “it’s just Ashley” thing started, and even then I immediately got bad vibes from her. It’s so obvious that she’s deliberately trying to act like Taylor, to an extent that is beyond concerning. And like you guys said, the problem is not “looking” like Taylor and getting money from it, but continually lie over and over again about everything all the damn time and pretend you’re this selfless, innocent person who doesn’t care about money.
    Also, the way she keeps saying she doesn’t personally think she looks like Taylor, but it’s everyone else that puts her into this narrative…..like???? What?? Are you being serious?? LOL
    It’s so insane for her to say that while doing everything in her power to LOOK. LIKE. TAYLOR.
    I just can’t with her.

  • @sophiamandell9550
    @sophiamandell9550 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    “and also Taylor’s never worn a wig”
    “no” *laughter* one of my favorite parts of this whole video 😂

  • @absv444
    @absv444 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Madeline really carried this episode she’s so fucking funny hahaha

  • @elise9553
    @elise9553 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I am so confused by this ashley situation, but I'm glad yall talk abt it so I can understand

  • @sylvee2
    @sylvee2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This girl has mental issues, she has a personality disorder, or body dysmorphia, shes obssessed with her so scary. Also madeline is so entertaining loved all her inputs its like having real girl talk time. Her eye makesup is also so cute ✨️

  • @TaylahLouiseBudgets
    @TaylahLouiseBudgets ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This video has convinced me that I am a fake fan. Like I have video evidence of me crying at the speak now concert at 13 years old, going to every concert since & have a tay inspired tattoo but still I feel like I must be faking it 😂

    • @xotennisxgirlox
      @xotennisxgirlox ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can be a fan and not have an unhealthy obsession.

  • @FloN.
    @FloN. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why does Madeline have so many pictures of Ashley on her wall? 🤔

  • @alisontishman6724
    @alisontishman6724 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think we need an updated version of this!

  • @malucicala3457
    @malucicala3457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think this is by far my favourite podcast episode in existence. Thank you.

  • @CadenB-i1u
    @CadenB-i1u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I return to this episode at least once a month just to hear the bone collector speak her truth

  • @skyhoward2050
    @skyhoward2050 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've been a fan since Teardrops on my Guitar came on when I first heard it playing in the cat room while working at an animal shelter at 20 years old..I'm 36 now and have never had anyone to go to shows with so have only seen her 1 time during the fearless tour (tried to get into 1989, even went to the stadium and listened from outside but couldn't afford even face tickets..) til eras tour when I went twice in Vegas. I'm not a teenage girl and never was the entirety of my time as a fan so never felt the need to order merch that is very much catered to teenagers.. I've always just bought the albums at record stores and have all of the cds and vinyls from over the years but that doesn't stop me from being a real fan. It's not a contest to be a fan of any musician..I know it feels like that when you're younger but none of that shit matters as a grown ass adult. I own a business and have a mortgage and don't have time to be on tumblr or tiktok or whatever tf 😂

    • @robynjeema
      @robynjeema ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Literally same, pretty grossed out by that point in the video. Like buddy we didn't even have camera phones when I was an og swiftie, and my parents were definitely not giving me money for merch and concerts. Now I have a mortgage and still can't afford a concert. What is this weird rich kid bs?

  • @bboong4453
    @bboong4453 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    THIS is exactly what I needed in my life! Thank you so much!

  • @sarahstevens142
    @sarahstevens142 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Haha this is fantastic!! Please do more video Evolution of a Snake episodes - Madeline is hilarious! 😂

    • @sarahstevens142
      @sarahstevens142 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      P.S. - also bring back Solo in Tokyo! ❤️

  • @lea2767
    @lea2767 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love you guys for this lol the facial expressions make this podcast even funnier

  • @kendragramley6243
    @kendragramley6243 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my god, I literally only knew Ashley as a TikTok weirdo who may or may not have been a Trumper. I was off TikTok for several months until Eras started (I was too obsessed, I had to stop) and wasn’t even really on stan twitter, so I missed the whole Grammy thing! I’m new to the swiftologist and evolution of a snake so I’m just now getting to this, but I do enjoy a lot of the content. Thanks for sharing your research!

  • @gleeloover
    @gleeloover ปีที่แล้ว +11

    this video quite literally was like the sister i never had while i was doing a ton of work today 😭😭😭 thank you so much ❤

  • @rizzardthewise
    @rizzardthewise ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so happy this is in video form lmao I've been binging your channel and podcast back and forth after recently discovering you and this is my next podcast episode. Your reactions are incredible and I'm glad I get to watch this one specifically. Ashley has always given me really intense sus energy and I pray she is never let anywhere near Taylor honestly 😬

  • @gracieelakee
    @gracieelakee ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i was working at the dress store she bought her grammy dress at (ypsilon dresses) in salt lake city when she was there. we were all so confused why she was invited to the grammys… i don’t think anyone believed her or cared lmfao

  • @jacobcordeiro1040
    @jacobcordeiro1040 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m honestly so excited for the future of this pod and channel

  • @RenzohsClub
    @RenzohsClub ปีที่แล้ว +8

    so THIS is what the podcasts look like visually

  • @quinroseman7233
    @quinroseman7233 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    her saying she makes 5-10k a WEEK as a travel nurse is the most unrealistic lie she’s ever told

    • @skyhoward2050
      @skyhoward2050 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's HILARIOUS. are they paid well? Yep. Are they making hundreds of thousands a year? Nah.

    • @burnt.norton
      @burnt.norton ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@skyhoward2050 i know a few in california who make almost $200k a year and i’m so ENVIOUS. but obviously they get hella taxed lmao

    • @humanhoyer1896
      @humanhoyer1896 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Okay during Covid tho, those were the contract prices. Lots of nurses were making that. They definitely aren’t anymore unless you’re going to sketchy picus or crossing picket lines. But those were not unrealistic numbers during Covid for a trauma unit.

  • @blackice27
    @blackice27 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Coming back to this video 😂 it's soooo good!

  • @quinroseman7233
    @quinroseman7233 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i just know taylor swift DOES NOT LIKE HER

  • @allijohnson1228
    @allijohnson1228 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ashely = George Santos in a Taylor Swift Cosplay

    • @1-800-LOVE-U
      @1-800-LOVE-U ปีที่แล้ว +1

      stop you’re so right 💀

    • @mirandabee2323
      @mirandabee2323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His second drag persona!

  • @lalaluvbot
    @lalaluvbot ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i absolutely loved this! i have been wanting to listen to the podcast for a while but unfortunately spotify doesnt offer podcasts in my country, so getting this treat was awesome

    • @ingridbrandt7710
      @ingridbrandt7710 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you tried just finding the podcast by googling ”Evolution of a Snake?” I am in Sweden and don’t even have Spotify, but have no problem listening free to all the podcast episodes. Give it a try.

  • @abigailmccartnie
    @abigailmccartnie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To be fair- early concert attendance/merch isn’t the best thing to judge on but she likely wasn’t a full on “swiftie” if she listened in 2006. I listened to a few Taylor swift songs starting in 2006 (I turned 8yrs in nov that year) with our song I think? but I stayed mainly a casual radio listener until I started using TH-cam/iTunes and really got to commit when I started using Spotify in like 2014? Idk just briefly before she removed everything from Spotify. But anyways I was poor and my mom doesn’t like Taylor so I’ve never been to a show or anything yet. She even came to my small hometown in 2007 when she played at trails west and I was one of the only girls that didn’t get to go bc my mom didn’t wanna go 😂

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well this video wasn’t about whether or not Abigail is a swiftie now is it

  • @laurenjennings4104
    @laurenjennings4104 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a 38 yr old og swiftie...I heard taylor on Philadelphias country radio 92.5 xtu before debut was even was released. I said to my ex fiance at the time this 16 yr old girl is going to be huge. Been a swiftie since 2006 . I watched this girls tik toks and couldn't help but just laugh at her cause she is clearly not an og swiftie and she is delusional. I was actually embarrassed for her. She does not look like Taylor. Its really weird she is trying so hard to look like her. She needs therapy or to get her own life either one. Oh and you guys said she is younger then taylor and she looks older then her for sure...Zach I have the pictures of the speak now tour too lol this woman is not a swiftie

  • @harneetk8412
    @harneetk8412 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Omggg ... Thank you a million times... Listening to the podcast ultimately makes my day 10 times better 🥺🥺🥺

  • @mgabss
    @mgabss ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I avoid American swiftie accounts like the plague, so I didn't know about this girl. I'm literally shook to my core, as a new swiftie even I can tell she is not an OG, which says a lot lol. This podcast is truly the best introduction to the TS lore, thank you for this FREE feast🐍🍰

  • @jessicamaguire8905
    @jessicamaguire8905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This specific intro always gave me harry potter vibes & I love it

  • @donardodavinci6126
    @donardodavinci6126 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could you please drop the link to Ashley's skit and headshots? I'm searching my ass off, but I only see TikToks made by her

    • @LaurenLaass
      @LaurenLaass ปีที่แล้ว

      Search “ashley leechin actor” on Google.

  • @devonbron13
    @devonbron13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "babe, you have a mortgage, you shouldn't be screaming about Taylor Swift"
    My mortgage looking at me: 👀👀👀👀

  • @AP-ek6by
    @AP-ek6by ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Been following your podcast for a few months now. You guys are my fave podcast ever! So glad to finally see you guys visually 😅👍❤ .

  • @michealrhodes974
    @michealrhodes974 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    pls release more of these on youtube king

  • @allymm62
    @allymm62 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the times I have scrolled on tik tok and saw her on my fyp, I always got weird, weird vibes!! Thank y’all for doing this episode, I love the podcast 🙏 thank you both for this!

  • @breebee83
    @breebee83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Single white femailing" nearly took me out! 😂

  • @blackice27
    @blackice27 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The wig is now walking around malls with fake security and getting paid to be a Taylor Swift impersonator....

  • @ReeCrowsFray
    @ReeCrowsFray ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This. Is. CREEEEEEPY😮 When I was in my mid 20s and twilight was real big 😑 my face still baby, my hard was dark, and my RBF has never left 😂😅 and I would CHRONICALLY get told/asked if I knew who I looked like. Mind you, I’m older than her, but it was mostly Kristen Stewart and then Kiera Knightly (which only happened when I smiled/laughed 😂😂which was rare) but I went to great lengths to change EVERYTHING about my look. I didn’t want to be compared to a celebrity, especially one that no one liked and was younger than me! That’s weird! This copycat garb is so strange to me. I don’t understand the obsession of trying to BE Taylor, but like you all said, I can understand being a legit lookalike for parties, events, on the streets of New York etc. but to go THIS FAR AS A MOTHER?! WTH?! Once I became a mom, almost EVERY aspect of my life before, just doesn’t seem real. I don’t like what I used to, I don’t follow things like before, everything from my thoughts to my looks changed drastically. Everything has become about my kid. Everything. I can’t imagine the very weird traits her children are going to have because of this personality trait that is clearly not normal. 🧐🧐🧐

  • @brittanyr9471
    @brittanyr9471 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you guys talk about a picture or video clip is it possible to show it on screen? Or link it somewhere?

  • @imjakedeason
    @imjakedeason ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this video is a treat! thank you, it was awesome!

  • @lydiaruby89
    @lydiaruby89 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for blessing us this morning.

  • @helloleesh
    @helloleesh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m looking at a headshot of this woman, and you know who she looks like? That real housewife who is married to the Botched doctor… hold please… Heather Dubrow!

  • @AndromanKaya
    @AndromanKaya ปีที่แล้ว +3

    55:20 will haunt my nightmares, i was dying at that part!!!

  • @gracieelakee
    @gracieelakee ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG i also remember her saying she wanted a purple dress that was lavender haze vibes because purple compliments her so well like taylor because they look so much alike

  • @maia_gaia
    @maia_gaia ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro the description of her talking about Andrea made my skin crawl what what what 🤢

  • @katemariemc
    @katemariemc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Besties this is going to blow up and I'm so happy for you guys

  • @armsamelia
    @armsamelia ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG MADELINE IS SO PRETTY ALSO TY FOR DOING THIS YALL ARE ICONS

  • @allaboutthatlip
    @allaboutthatlip ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Madelines voice somehow reminds me of Zendaya..

  • @lolalover24212
    @lolalover24212 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don’t think she had plastic surgery but the pillow face from the fillers is obvious, it’s actually what’s making her look less like Taylor over time. A few years ago her cheeks weren’t as full, she could’ve gained weight but it usually doesn’t settle in only one part of the face she’d have a double chin too. But her face is VERY puffy looking for someone who’s never gotten filled, supposedly.

  • @ImBananaBread
    @ImBananaBread 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the 'TS' not being centered makes me want to die✨✨

  • @elisazouza
    @elisazouza ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Idk if I was Taylor Swift I would get freaked out by a fan making lots of money on her image

  • @lynninfinite
    @lynninfinite ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMGGGGG I FOLLOWED MADELINE ON TUMBLRRR GOOD OLD DAYS

  • @CasuallyCruelCrushesClub
    @CasuallyCruelCrushesClub 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Totally unrelated but while I was watching this and you guys said "Ariana Grande" one of my friends texted me "Yes, and?" out of the blue. What is this sorcery?????!!!! 😭✋

  • @Emislay
    @Emislay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me she feels very uncanny valley. She tries so much to behave like Taylor and mimic her that she does not act like a human would.

  • @Citykitty23
    @Citykitty23 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It’s just so ironic that her last name is leechin

  • @yoyocanary
    @yoyocanary ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad I'm here for this

  • @mateuszkalmuk75
    @mateuszkalmuk75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanted to find this video of her talking to cats but instead i found out that somebody made a Wikipedia page for the wig.

  • @allisonkrug9759
    @allisonkrug9759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making a video about this. I saw a bunch of videos about this girl and I wasn’t understanding what was going on. I love your videos by the ways! 😊

  • @abigailsalmanac
    @abigailsalmanac 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “This is not for TikTok, this is for the therapy cough” - what I say everyday on TikTok 😭😭😭

  • @uaerndjd4244
    @uaerndjd4244 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    heyy this is super random but i really want to know what fandom drama taylor got herself involved in that didn't end well? i think it was on tumblr

  • @lynninfinite
    @lynninfinite ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WAIT IS SHE “ANDTHATLITTLEBLACKDRESS” ON TUMBLR

    • @emzzzzzzzzzz
      @emzzzzzzzzzz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      YES

    • @lynninfinite
      @lynninfinite 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@emzzzzzzzzzz the memories!!!!!! Love

  • @natalie_rose2861
    @natalie_rose2861 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's crazy. Crazypants birthday is October 13th & Madelines, I think she said, is October 10th, & mine is October 11th. But I'm not 29, I'm 33...I miss my late 20s.😭

  • @emmmma143
    @emmmma143 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is giving me being told I look like Snow White my entire life (pale, dark curly hair) and running with it. Sometimes I’d put a red bow in my hair or wear blue and yellow, I have blue eyes (snow has brown) so I’d just say “I’m blue eyed Snow White”. I’ve dressed up as her a couple of times for Halloween or an event. I have some resemblance and when I put on the red lip and wear that color scheme, yes I look like her. But I am not a Disney Princess with the same personality. There’s such a stark different between knowing you resemble someone well known vs trying to become them 💀💀

  • @icecreamisyummy8490
    @icecreamisyummy8490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best two hours ive watched in a long time

  • @iamsam1296
    @iamsam1296 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At first I was like oh she looks like Taylor lol. But now it’s just like that Ariana look alike

  • @brookeashley304
    @brookeashley304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s just like the movie Single White Female. She “becomes” her bc she has a mental disorder. It’s stalker-ish.

  • @fueledbyrobert
    @fueledbyrobert ปีที่แล้ว +6

    great bones, beautiful bones

  • @GingaNinjaTV13
    @GingaNinjaTV13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay but ALL the blonde girls in my middle school styled their hair like debut Taylor, especially the ones who liked country music, so that detail checks out to me

  • @ItsTFAS
    @ItsTFAS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm living for the level of sassyness

  • @saint3356
    @saint3356 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don’t understand why this Ashley chick can’t just be herself but her last name really has her living up to herself because she certainly is leechin off of Taylor swift

  • @brittanyhughes2198
    @brittanyhughes2198 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will say as someone who has been getting filler a long time.. it’s easy to recognize it. It looks like she’s gotten something on her cheek bones or implants. Esp looking at the older pics. Now is it bc she just wanted it or did she do it to look more like her? That’s just my opinion tho.

  • @echoes8057
    @echoes8057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love love love this!!! Thank you sooo much!

  • @BexBun
    @BexBun 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m really enjoying the “persona non grata” reference now that ttpd is out

  • @hollybeck605
    @hollybeck605 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And I feel like a good analogy for the Grammys incident is having a problem with your taxes and DMing President Biden. 🤣🤦

  • @Hey_Jamie
    @Hey_Jamie ปีที่แล้ว

    Soooo her kids have to keep seeing the tv and seeing Taylor, having to obviously know who Taylor is considering how much their mother loves her, and ask their mother if the person on tv is mommy even though they must know that their mom is not on tv…? Lmao

  • @jgil1966
    @jgil1966 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    queens make the video podcast a de facto please babes

  • @danamaria80
    @danamaria80 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trump should latch onto Ashley now. He should tweet I LOVE ASHLEY last name

  • @mdrowe726
    @mdrowe726 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Some thoughts on Taylor, whom I have loved and supported for years. (Admittedly I’ve had a parasocial breakup with her).
    She defended herself in the name of feminism against a line in Ginny and Georgia (“You go through men faster than Taylor Swift”). This was fine, but her “feminist” statement fell extremely flat when her fans went after the woman (a POC) who delivered the line with racist hate and literal threats of death and Taylor said nothing. The hate Antonia received was featured on the news. Taylor and her PR team keep a close ear to the ground, especially with regard to news stories where her name is concerned. She is seemingly very preoccupied with her own reputation. She and her team had to have known about this. Her feminist statement proved to be the opposite of that. It was self-serving. Taylor is not a feminist. If she was, she would have come to Antonia’s defense. True feminism is intersectional, meaning that it recognizes that women of color face discrimination twofold.
    *No, she did not make those death threats and can’t control her fans, but what she CAN control is her own use of her voice and platform. And in this example (and in countless others), she used her power in such a way as to endanger someone else. The song Better Than Revenge resulted in fans bullying Camilla Belle and slut shaming her, just as Taylor did. They were following her example. She told fans to let Scooter know how you feel about the masters controversy but then said nothing as his home address was leaked online and death threats were sent to him and his family. There is such a thing as stoking the flames without being the direct aggressor. She knows what she is doing, knows the consequences, and says nothing because saying nothing is better for her name and brand. Feel free to disagree, but to me that’s evil. I have heard the argument that Beyoncé does it too, and I don’t doubt that. What I will say I’ve observed is that Beyoncé stays out of it. That’s not a good look either, but she doesn’t stoke the flames like Taylor does. It’s giving Tr*mp and I’m not about that.
    It’s like her fans literally have blinders on because they love her so much. They twist themselves into pretzels to justify the things that she does and are seemingly unable to say that these things she does are often wrong (ethically speaking). Anything you bring up, no matter how egregious, they try to refute it with a reason that bad behavior “isn’t that bad” or should be dismissed. Or they say mean and hateful things to the person making the comment trying to hold Taylor accountable. I have gotten A LOT of hate and I have not once been disrespectful to anyone. There is a reason people are afraid to say anything against Taylor Swift. And that’s not okay, tbh. That music critic who gave Folklore an 8/10 was just doing her job and she didn’t deserve to have her personal info leaked and death threats sent to her. At what point should a celebrity feel an obligation to set the tone for their fanbase?
    She has consistently been insensitive to racial issues. She (and her team) attempted to silence a blogger in 2017 for saying she should denounce white supremacy, rather than try to silence the literal Daily Stormer, a major right-wing publication (cited and quotes by the blogger) for saying that she shared their beliefs. I do not believe that Taylor is liberal, even if she is trying to throw us off of her scent by claiming to be liberal at the exact moment cancel culture was coming for her. A person does not refuse to denounce white supremacy for years only to become passionate about anti-racism, feminism, and social causes at the exact moment when the cultural climate shifts in favor of the Left. Miss Americana was the most contrived thing I have ever seen. Seriously, where was that energy for the actual white supremacists saying she was one of them? why was it directed at some small blogger saying that she needed to speak up? We know why. Because Taylor is a capitalist who wanted the money of those white supremacist fans. But prioritizing making money over squashing life-ending hate is evil.
    This fandom is beyond toxic and honestly interacting with fans who will defend her no matter what shitty behavior you mention to them is a bit creepy.
    And so many people say “why are you even here if you feel this way. You are wasting your time. Get off this thread.” Or “get a life” or “you are trying to spread hate” or even “It happens in every fandom”. Or my personal favorite “Go seek professional help.” (Which is classic deflecting and also not cute to act like mental illness is a sick burn). Saying these things instead of validating the person with these real and valid concerns ensures that the situation will never improve (AKA enabling). It’s also a great way to silence all critics, which, when people have valid things to say, is bad. It’s similar to a strategy used by racists. People say “ugh you’re making this about race” or “uh oh, not the race card again” or “but white people suffer too” in effect to stymie progress towards breaking down racist barriers.
    Taylor is charming and that can be a trap because it makes people not want to hold her accountable. But we still should. She will only bend if we put that pressure on her. In my mind that’s how a real fan should act. Anything else is looking the other way/corruption.
    This is FOR SURE an unpopular opinion but I don’t have enough information on the whole Scooter Braun thing to be convinced he is a bad guy, nor have I been able to find any through my internet searches. I mean, he’s a billionaire probably, and they are all ethically compromised. But how do we know he did something wrong other than buying a record label? I personally feel worse about the fact that Taylor told fans to go off on him and didn’t say anything when his family got death threats and was doxxed than I do about anything a Google search can reveal Scooter has done, but maybe I am missing something. I am not saying he is not a creep. I’m just not sure I’m on the same page as everyone who is super outraged. What are we supposed to be mad at him for? I’d really appreciate answers to this question because being informed is important to me.
    Ultimately, she doesn’t feel like a good person to me. The fact that she donates money to charities doesn’t change that. Oftentimes when celebrities do that it’s performative, and I have no reason to believe this is an exception.
    I loved her growing up. She CAN be better. But she has no motivation to because so many of us kiss the ground she walks on. We need to do better as a fandom. This behavior that we enable is toxic and gross.
    *Talking about the fandom on the whole here. I know that this does not apply to each individual fan.

    • @shelleygoodwin6371
      @shelleygoodwin6371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't be bothered addressing every part of your comment, but I think your standards for her are unfair and honestly impossible. Imo she is absolutely a good, king and generous person. As long as you don't fuck with her, and honestly those people that do seem to usually deserve what comes to them and it isn't always from her anyway. The only thing that I have always thought was not okay was her viewpoint in better than revenge, but 90% of the girls I went to school with at that time would have had about the same view then too, luckily most would have grown since then, including Taylor 😊

    • @mdrowe726
      @mdrowe726 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shelleygoodwin6371 it is dangerous (and completely wrong) to spread the message that this standard is impossible to meet. There is nothing impossible about coming to the defense of another woman in a conversation about FEMINISM that Taylor herself started, particularly when comments turned racist. Feminism is nothing if it’s not intersectional. There is also nothing impossible about denouncing white supremacy. It’s compassionate and it’s human. What’s unfair isn’t my standard, it’s a feminism that historically abandons certain women, and Taylor has allowed that to continue on her platform, yet she addresses comments about her dating life as if it’s a huge sexist injustice. Its fine for her to do that but not fine to be silent about racism in a convo about feminism that she started. I’m not saying she can address every instance, but if it’s a conversation she started, then no, I won’t think highly of her as a result. It’s hypocritical for her to claim feminism as part of her brand if only to behave like this.

    • @cdo...49283
      @cdo...49283 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mdrowe726Bro you're the one in a cult if you took racist hate from her replying to a sexist joke about her is racist..
      Like seriously grow up you psychopath.. there are things to be critical of Taylor Swift off, which this channel does a great job of pointing out. But not fitting into the perfect being to those with a distorted extreme far left view of the world is not one of them..

  • @TheNameIsViwares
    @TheNameIsViwares 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ashlee is quite literally leeching off Taylor’s life😂

  • @kyleek.cosmos3371
    @kyleek.cosmos3371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just peed my pants Im laughing so hard.

  • @plnkblue
    @plnkblue ปีที่แล้ว +4

    someone said that she looks AI generated and i fuckin lost it

  • @haleywoodrum4789
    @haleywoodrum4789 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You just KNOW she dm’d Taylor and asked to be invited to the after party 😭😭😂

  • @DirtbikeGirlfriend
    @DirtbikeGirlfriend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Today I learned that Madeline and I share a bday!! Happy late b'day to my bday twin 🎉

  • @Dolphin2048
    @Dolphin2048 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the link to the actor commercial thing with her in full taylor

  • @jennifernicolae
    @jennifernicolae ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I want to point out that Ashley also CLEARLY has a perm to copy Taylors curls...

  • @juleighya
    @juleighya ปีที่แล้ว

    “I’M INDIANA JONES!!!!” 😂😂😂😂