"Certain words you are not about supposed to say " ... like "Jul2". They obviously started with a Jul2 and worked at its greatest weakness: the lowering process. So I think it really is an improvement, but the grip comes with the downside of a bigger size (no problem in the gym) and a slightly higher price. As always a great video with exclusive content! Would be amazing to see the same for the new Megajul Sport and a video on new shoes 2017.
Thanks for the video kudos! The MegaJul Sport is on the "to edit" list and we are releasing the 2017 Shoe video this week at: th-cam.com/video/H4E5LAuNJXE/w-d-xo.html
Looks like a direct copy of the mammut smart belay - I don't know when the mammut came out vs the Jul, but i've had mine for at least 6-7 years, and it has been awesome - double tube for auto locking rappel
Benefit of using this over a clickup? The clickup seems just as effective and works with the same rope range. Also the clickup can be used backwards and it will still work as a tuber. The feeding seems better on the clickup too.
The biggest benefits will probably be price and availability. The Click Up is hard to find in the US and retails for $59.95 and the ATC-Guide will surely be well-distributed and will cost $39.99.
Salewa Ergo American Version. At this point, you might as well wait for Smart 2.0 and Click Up 2.0. because Mammut and CT are on their 2nd design iteration where as this is BD's first attempt.
I would advise that you don't use a geometry-based assisted braking belay device as an ascender as they require a not insignificant amount of resistance on the brake side of the rope to "lock" off. If you're looking for a belay device that can also be use for rope ascension, I personally would look toward a mechanical assisted device like a GriGri in the RAD setup (www.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/Ascending-a-rope-with-GRIGRI--GRIGRI-Plus-and-NEOX?ProductName=GRIGRI). But regardless, always test before you use any device in the field.
Now available at Backcountry (bit.ly/2Up1PHC). See more retailers and current prices here: weighmyrack.com/Belay/black-diamond-atc-pilot
Atc pilot ! Good , fast and smooth belay ! Solid gears !!!
"Certain words you are not about supposed to say " ... like "Jul2". They obviously started with a Jul2 and worked at its greatest weakness: the lowering process. So I think it really is an improvement, but the grip comes with the downside of a bigger size (no problem in the gym) and a slightly higher price.
As always a great video with exclusive content! Would be amazing to see the same for the new Megajul Sport and a video on new shoes 2017.
Thanks for the video kudos! The MegaJul Sport is on the "to edit" list and we are releasing the 2017 Shoe video this week at: th-cam.com/video/H4E5LAuNJXE/w-d-xo.html
Looks like a direct copy of the mammut smart belay - I don't know when
the mammut came out vs the Jul, but i've had mine for at least 6-7
years, and it has been awesome - double tube for auto locking rappel
Looks like a Mammut smart with a shorter handle...
Benefit of using this over a clickup? The clickup seems just as effective and works with the same rope range. Also the clickup can be used backwards and it will still work as a tuber. The feeding seems better on the clickup too.
The biggest benefits will probably be price and availability. The Click Up is hard to find in the US and retails for $59.95 and the ATC-Guide will surely be well-distributed and will cost $39.99.
WeighMyRack Ahhh good point. Didn't catch the price. Thanks!
WeighMyRack Speaking of availability. When can we buy it?
@@WeighMyRack yeah, but Clickup comes with a 15-20$ carabiner in the package so...
Salewa Ergo American Version.
At this point, you might as well wait for Smart 2.0 and Click Up 2.0. because Mammut and CT are on their 2nd design iteration where as this is BD's first attempt.
I wonder if this could be used as an ascender in conjunction with a prusik and foot loops?
I would advise that you don't use a geometry-based assisted braking belay device as an ascender as they require a not insignificant amount of resistance on the brake side of the rope to "lock" off. If you're looking for a belay device that can also be use for rope ascension, I personally would look toward a mechanical assisted device like a GriGri in the RAD setup (www.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/Ascending-a-rope-with-GRIGRI--GRIGRI-Plus-and-NEOX?ProductName=GRIGRI). But regardless, always test before you use any device in the field.
I think the Pilot has been pushed to a Spring 2018 release at this point.
i had no clue colin powell was a climber
Hehe. Future reference, Kolin Powick is the Director of all climbing goods at BD (he's also the guy who writes all the geeky QC reports).
39.99 sad I just paid 50!
Everything is getting more expensive these days with supply chain issues... and inflation
BD megajul 4 :P
Works super well but is loud and plasticy... not worrying at all but slightly annoying
Thanks for the info. We've haven't had a chance to use it for any length of time.
Don’t know exactly what kind of noise this person was experiencing, but I did get a squeaky/stuttering noise from some ropes at the gym.