You my friend, have unfortunately made the same mistake this here girl has😂 I’ll give you a hint. Read the Book of Mormon. That’s a great place to start. If you wanna go visit all the slanderous pages and organizations after that, be my guest. But real research starts at the source.
Thats how they get you. My grandmother was the best recruiter for the Mormon church, somehow even got my grandfather to convert from being Baptist around the age of 60. They are playing the long game.
@@bobleeswagger474 if you act nice and do nice things for other people, at some point aren’t you a nice person even if you do it in hope that someone will join your religious organisation? I’m sure your grandma was awesome.
Great grandpa and grandpa were both bishops. Always heard it’s 2% of your income as a family and if you quit the church they ban you from entering the temple. Nothing she said wasn’t a lie.
@@Shane-lc5od Well it's not entirely a lie, more of an opinion twisted fact. Basically, it depends on your experiences and I would say not all the churches are like that. We used to move around A LOT and no matter where we went, even when we stopped being a part of the Mormon church, they helped us out. We lived in Utah though, so it is much more different than anywhere else and the churches other people have been talking about were mostly out of state as I've seen.
Factual Errors: “The Book of Mormon states God curses people of color.” No. There are “people of color” (all people have a melanin count somewhere on a spectrum) who God has not cursed, in the Book of Mormon. If you hate the Book of Mormon it’s because you have decided in advance to hate it, or you’re projecting your bad experience with the church onto the book. Some things (like “women are not allowed to wear pants to church”) are obvious exaggerations. What? A woman in pants will get kicked out of church? That’s just silly. However, I don’t like defending the church since I consider it a corrupt business masquerading as a religion, duping a lot of people.
@@jeffs4483oh and the whole “Joseph Smith married 14 year olds” is highly contested. There’s a whole spectrum of belief ranging from “Joseph Smith was never a polygamist-he was framed by Brigham Young” to “Joseph Smith was a pedophile” and it’s a CHOICE which evidence you will investigate and which conclusion you will come to. I highly doubt this girl has spent more than an hour considering an alternative to the historical narrative of Joseph Smith’s actions peddled by both the Brighamites and the exmormons. I get it-many of us got burned by the church and now we’re angry. We should take some time to heal, but not propagate a false narrative to justify more anger. It sucks to be in Utah around people who think we’re crazy for leaving their “holy cult”, but we’re not crazy. We’ve just been wounded by lies. It’s time to heal.
Wow I watch TV on Sundays. Wear dresses above the knees and know several members who are gay. Not sure where you got your information. Church is 2 hours long. Yes, you can have your name removed with no big drama.
Lol bro who u fooling I lived this shit you can’t say it’s not true. They changed it to 2 hrs long recently, and my sister is gay and I know how awfully she was treated. You don’t know shit.
@@ethansmith8463yeah it used to be. She posted this video in 2022 and they changed the length of church in 2019. So she’s either unaware of the changes or purposely lying for clicks. I am an ex member and no longer religious but I also don’t like lies being told to people as truths. If someone watched this video and didn’t know much about this church they would’ve heard half of the video as true things and believed the other half yet it’s be lies or misleading. There are plenty of truths in this clip that are damning to this church she should’ve left out those parts that aren’t true.
Why has it become normalized to bash the religion of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Its no different than bashing the religion of other Christians or another belief. Please remember that members of the church are human and respect what we believe be in.
I am a part of the LDS church and we do not send missionaries to hunt you down and try and bring you back. We just suggest that you come back because we think you’re in a hard time and that’s why you left.
It was fabricated a couple hundred years ago so Joseph Smith could have women and influence. I hope and pray everyone will see that. Family/ community is important regardless of religious status.
@Chaneleon-u4t Because it’s fake and a cult why would you believe in Joseph smith of Utah said all of this bullshit when you could turn your life to god and believe in real facts about the lord and savior Jesus Christ. Your religion is a joke give me a break.
Oh how I love this church and the uplifting teachings, the godly influence I feel in the temple and the meetings. I just love the Book of Mormon and the stream of truth and blessing insights. Of course there happen mistakes, because we are just normal human beings, but most of us are enjoying the love of the Lord flowing to us while trying to become and serving better ❤❤❤
I don't know if you know, please we must capitalize the G when referring to the most high God. small g refers to demon gods, it's in the Bible, Deutoronomy and Leviticous and Kings. I hope this helps. words matter, let's keep evil away
Alma 36:27 "And I have been supported under trials and troubles of every kind, yea, and in all manner of afflictions; yea, God has delivered me from prison, and from bonds, and from death; yea, and I do put my trust in him, and he will still deliver me"
I just wanna say that nothing of what you have said is going to make me get out of this church because I know most of the answers to your claims, yesterday, I wasn’t able to answer more than 2. After praying, reading the Bible and the Book of Mormon, and receiving personal revelation from the Holy Spirit (I felt every feeling it suppose to make you feel) and now my faith has increased. Jesus Christ is my savior and your savior, repent and comeback to the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.
Not all LDS churches are like this. I’m bisexual, have an active sex life, wear pants, and am a Nondenominational Christian. Where I attend other women have worn pants no problem. Members and missionaries are all very amiable and church only lasts 2 hours unless you wanna stay for activities. I've been attending almost a year, they are always welcoming and don't care I’m not converting nor try to force it on me. We just happily co-mingle and get along. Some LDS churches may be like that but the one I've been at is very kind and nonjudgmental.
@DecemberSfy You're bisexual and have an active sex life. Well, that's not allowed in the Mormon Church. If they were to interview to determine whether or not you're worthy enough to be baptized, they would tell you that you're NOT worthy enough. You will have to be celibate or be in a heterosexual traditional marriage ONLY, if you are to be considered worthy enough to be a member of the Mormon Church. They'll excommunicate a member who's sexually active if they aren't heterosexual and married in a heterosexual marriage ONLY. And of course they're welcoming to you right now. That's because you aren't a member of the Church yet. Things will change drastically once you're a member. As a member the male Bishop (notice only males are allowed to have authority in the Mormon Church -- women are not allowed in the priesthood) will consider it his right to discipline you. ALL Mormon Churches are Dictated to by the HQ in Salt Lake City. You might be attending a ward where the Bishop is more Liberal (might). But once you're a member you'll have to obey the rules or be disciplined. Have you listened to the channel "Mormon Stories"? Lots of Mormons tell of their experiences there. And then they usually get excommunicated for speaking about the abuse they've suffered.
I guarantee if you came out to the members and or bishop that you were bisexual and having premarital sex you would be shamed like no other. Premarital sex is a sin above murder in the LDS religion btw lol. Also up until a few years ago, mormon church service used to be 3 hours long so you are obviously new and don’t know a thing about mormonism🤡🤣
This girl is crazy. I've seen the fruits of this attitude in my best friend. Pure crazy. Exaggerating, over generalizing, and random sort of facts out of context. You can leave the church, but you can't leave it alone. That's crazy fruits.
Or use critical thinking. People lived and still live without knowlege of a supreme-being idea, they didn't pray for guidance. They used their own body they were born with. Brains are there for a reason. @Keaton42
i kind of feel bad watching this because she used the words “you can’t” more than 20 times. mormons can do whatever they want. sometimes they choose not to do things that distract them from god. being mormon is not about following rules!!! being mormon is about believing that joseph smith was a prophet of god. everything else is just christian.
I feel bad for you...I am.a mormon And you cant....you can not..yiu definitely can not be honest and truthful in this religion. Everyone is fake. The bishops are fake and liars. The bishops at my church know about a child molester and have done nothing about it and still let him baptize children and now his getting his endowment. What kind of church is this??
Modern society is so messed up with violence, anxiety, debt, addiction, divorce, sickness, people looking for happiness they'll never find etc etc so much so that the mormon Church this lady is describing could become more appealing in the future 😢😮😊
While there are appropriate responses to all of these statements, perhaps the one to share should be regarding women wearing pants in church. Since the first chapter in the Bible, God has demanded respect from all of His creations. In the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, we love our Heavenly Father and show that love by having respect for Him, for others, and for ourselves. Since the beginning of time, respect was shown for God by wearing the finest clothes which were available when attending worship services. For millenia, men and women were expected to wear clothing which was modest and appropriate to their gender when entering places dedicated to worship. I would be surprised if you could find any Christian church before the 1950’s, in the United States or possibly the world, where women were not required to routinely wear a dress when in the chapel or it’s equivalent. It is still a sign of respect for the men to at least wear a white shirt, slacks and a tie to church, and a suit is considered most appropriate. While the Savior would never exclude a sincere seeker of truth from any participation in His church, there are many ways to see that all understand and are able to show the proper respect for the ordinances. For at least the last 30 years, I am not aware of any ward (congregation) where someone was barred from entering the chapel because of their dress. If their clothing is too immodest, there are usually several members ready to loan them appropriate substitutes and assist them in preparing to worship properly. Women who are investigating the church often attend wearing pants, and usually no comment is made, unless questioned. If they continue to attend, they quickly recognize the difference in clothing and generally start dressing to blend with the other attendees. It is a shame that, even within the church, each succeeding generation seems to be being taught less and less about respect for Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, and respect for others and themselves. As an additional comment: for approximately the past six years, sister missionaries have been allowed to wear pants while proselyting.
As a Member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Not LDS or Mormon, that is not the name of the church and is a very important distinction) I ask that all of you instead of watching videos online, read the Book of Mormon. And with an open heart pray and ask god if it's true. Do your own research and don't be biased as you do it, go to the source and find out for yourself. Religion is a personal matter and you shouldn't let people on the internet sway your opinion without evidence. Not a single source other than herself was used, that is far from intellectually honest. Stay safe, stay healthy, and I hope and pray you are all able to prove to yourselves what you believe.
I’m not a Mormon but I have been going to a Mormon church for the past few weeks. Aside from everyone being incredibly nice, I’m a female who has worn pants each time. I’ve also seen other women there wearing pants. I heard about a member of the congregation coming out as gay in his testimony and no one seemed too upset about it. Also, I haven’t been asked for even a donation. I just feel like this her experience might not be the same for all the churches. Edit: it’s been several months since I wrote this. I freely admit I was wrong. I appreciate people trying to post important warnings about the Mormon church. I do in fact believe it is a cult and thankfully I am no longer a part of it. After commenting, I did begin to notice that women at the church do not usually wear pants and I was definitely love bombed and manipulated from the start. Please be weary of the Mormon church. There is a lot more to it than meets the eye.
I think this lady is making some of this up but some family’s are different and don’t like drinking tea or coffee on sundays some do and it’s ok, and being gay in the church is awesome we except all!
Uhhhh, she's not making any of this up. Also, Mormons say they accept lgbt people, but that doesn't really match up with the rules and comandents. I'm bisexual and i left the church as soon as i turned 18. @SupercarNdirtbikes
- Thousands of years ago, doesn’t apply today at all - Anyone worthy can hold a position in the church - At the time, everyone was a polygamist, no matter your religion, you had thousands of people as a polygamist - Men and women can wear anything they want. As long as it’s not insanely inappropriate (as in showing privates) - Church is actually 2 hrs long and you can do whatever you want on Sundays, it’s just to your best judgement - Nobody forces you to not drink certain things, we just don’t like those things as much that do badly to your body - Exactly, nobody forces you to do anything - I don’t think you’ve been to byu and we just follow the scriptures and what’s normal - Utah is the holy land bc that’s where the pioneers settled - The underwear and outfits just aren’t true, but we do have garnments which are optional to wear. They are just a reminder to keep our bodies clean - Again, tithing is optional, no, kids do not usually pay it, and we believe everyone gets into heaven almost no matter what (you have to be as bad as satan or hitler or Cane to get into hell) - Revenues literally go to building churches and temples to bring people to Christ, to save them - We do not own any of those things actually, I mean I guess we do have a couple small museum type things - If you tell the missionaries you don’t want them to come, they will not come, and they will not not lie or do anything you told them not to. They are like the best people
0:01 It’s not a cult, it’s a church that has it’s own religions. 0:07 so you didn’t want to make a promise with god to extent your loving relationship about your religion with other people? 0:12 also, there is a verse in the Book of Mormon where god loves everyone equally. 0:28 just today, I saw a woman with pants at my church. She actually has a very hood calling for the church, and has many spiritual things happen to her. 0:31 you are allowed to do things on Sunday, but some things are restricted due to the day being sacred to the religion. Sunday’s are meant for everyone to love and get together with their families. There are many activities you can do on sundays as well. It’s mostly just sports and shopping that aren’t really good to do, but you have the complete right to do them. You can watch TV as well, by the way. 0:35 coffee and tea are things I didn’t understand very well, but I like to ignore them because either way they are bad for you can don’t seem much of a problem. By the way, coffee and tea can be very addictive. 0:43 that was very rude and unwise of him. 0:51 so you didn’t want to give a talk in the church because you didn’t want too? Uhm. As a Mormon giving a talk is one of the most incredible things that I can possibly feel. It makes my heart happy since I can feel the love of the spirit. 0:55 yes, Adam and Eve are a perfect example of not being gay. Being gay means that you cant have children. While the opposite means you can live with your family. Also, I wouldn’t recommend going to BYU if you feel this way. 0:58 what’s wrong with that? Either way, the second coming is when we all migrate to Missouri. 1:02 yes, garments. It’s a loving way of showing your relationship with your religion. Besides, they seem very comfortable, and I’m only 14. 1:07 giving your tithing is meant for the restricted people who are disabled. The 10% money members donate if to help the lives of others. I’m 14, and I’m a kid. Giving 10% of the 10 dollars I have isn’t something horrible. 1:26 hunt you down? Serving a mission isn’t forcing people to believe in their religion. Instead we leave it optional but try to teach it to you.
You're only 14 so you probably do mean well, but mormonism is something devised from the pit of hell. I deeply wish for you to find the true love of our God and savior Jesus Christ and will be praying for your redemption. God bless 🙏
The thing about the ages of his wives remember he was 14 when he made the religion and in his 20s when he was killed in prison. Its not like he was 56 and the girl is 9. Anyone that studies religions will get that refrence. Also it was 1820 when he made it people were getting married at 14 up through the like 1940s depending on what part of the country, it was normal even in my grandmothers day.
He was killed when he was 38 - not in his 20s. And he lied and hid these marriages from the public as long as he could so apparently society at the time didn't approve
I am a current practicing member. A lot of this is technically correct (at least the base of what is being discussed, not her comments about it) but a lot of it is pretty wrong or personal choice. I love my religion. Everyone has their choice to oppose it. I just feel sorry and hope everyone the best. It is sad to see how much deception comes from former member though. I don’t believe it’s purposeful deception, but it is sad to see.
My landlord went crazy because I received a package and I didn’t get it till two hours later! She called me rude and had the face of evil on her face. That’s when I knew she was faking her lds faith. Her husband told me it’s okay. But just told him I’m not a therapist and she needs it.
@averyjames4623 Literally 😢 my fam ended up in a secret mormon HOA "Fairfield Harbour, NC" they also have control over the court there cant wait to get everything together to sue them all for the shit they did to us i still have all the photos of that house rotting away & them lying claiming it was repaired after hurricane Florence
“I will give you one of the Keys of the mysteries of the Kingdom. It is an eternal principle, that has existed with God from all eternity: That man who rises up to condemn others, finding fault with the Church, saying that they are out of the way, while he himself is righteous, then know assuredly, that that man is in the high road to apostasy; and if he does not repent, will apostatize, as God lives.
So it is true.. "3 And because my words shall hiss forth-many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible." 2 Nephi 29:3
Ive been Mormon my whole life. Ive hade many leadership rolls and other volunteer positions in this church. Most of what Andria says is extremely exaggerated or taken out of context.
Not cool yk I have been apart of the church my whole life I love it and it sad to see people's hate but we still love them and we love each other we have fun We are like family 👪 ❤
Go sister. I have my own experiences with Mormons. I just retired from a large police department down south and was thinking about moving to Vernal Utah. Just two days prior to this post I was in Vernal and was talking to a Mormon about how beautiful Vernal was. My mouth dropped when he stated that they didn't want my kind down there. I'm assuming he was being racist due to my Hispanic heritage or maybe he is just an asshole but I have never had an experience like that. I saw red at that point but continued to be polite. Let's just say I'm headed back to Oklahoma next month. I can't believe the big 12 let BYU into our conference.
There is a difference between LDS and Mormons Mormons don't take the church all that seriously and try to fool God so they think they can get away with anything. LDS on the other hand they take the church seriously and want to teach other people about the gospel and try thier best to be kind
Vernal is built on quicksand. My son was a police officer there, & transferred. When he placed a pencil on his table, it would roll. There are a lot of under ground springs there. You dodged a bullet, but most LDS people aren't racist, since you can see our apostles come from all corners of the earth. I'm sorry you ran into a snot, who doesn't understand God loves ALL of his children.
LDS member here, who what you guys call Mormon! I just wanted to say that most stuff here is true but not true at the same time! My friend from another church had came to me showing me this exclaiming about how she is spreading false information about my church! Every Sunday, we go to church. Our church lasts 2 hours. The first hour is sacrament meeting! That's when 3-4 people give talks about topics that they were given by our bishop! Before the talks, we take the sacrament. We focus on hor Jesus was resurrected, unlike most churches who focus on him dying for us! We have 2 books, The Bible and book of Mormon! The Book of Mormon is a series of prophets or just people who like had experiences like Nephi and Moroni! At the end, I believe Moroni challenges us to pray to Heavenly Father, not Jesus, about the book of Mormon. People assume that we are Mormons because of the Book of Mormon, but we are infact Latter Day saints, which are Christians! Sundays for us are rest days! Your allowed to go on nature walks and watch TV, it just depends on your household rules! Missionaries aren't going to hunt you down lol, they just simply knock on your door to spread the gospel for the gathering of Israel! We pay 10% of earnings to our church to be used to build temples and donate to charity. The founder, Joseph Smith, translated the Book of Mormon and restored the church! Also, there has never been a rule that people of color can't attend our church! Yes, Cane was cursed with black skin for commiting the first murder, but that doesn't mean all people of color are cursed. Missionaries are called to serve and spread the gospel, they don't force anything. You can leave the church whenever you like, but we aren't a cult!
@@robertgould9641 notice how I put that doesn't mean people of color are cursed, just cane! He had a darker complexion to stand out! I absolutely love everyone, no matter their skin color, and so does my church!
@@Chlxe11 just to be clear I wasn't attacking you, just the words from the Book of Mormon. I realize you didn't write those words so it doesn't mean you agree with everything in the Bible or Book of Mormon. Just curious did you grow up in the church or did you become a believer later in life?
@@robertgould9641 I grew up, but I had many opportunities to leave. And dw ik you weren't attacking me! There were times where I doubted my faith, but I would just open the book of Mormon to a random page and just start reading! It would always give me a boost and I always look forward to going to church on Sundays. Everyone else has different experiences with the church, but it mostly depends on your ward.
Have any of you even read the FSY pamphlet? It holds all our standards. And you can NOT say a thing until you have read the Book of Mormon. What this woman said is ninety percent bull crap.
With all due respect ma'am, I may not be Mormon, but I am a born again christian myself, but The bible did not support lgbtq cuz it was said in Leviticus 18:22 and 1 Corinthians 6:9, that's not me who said that, it was God Himself,
Except it wasnt "god himself" it was a council of old geezers who got together to decide what would be included in the bible. 🙄 christianity is literally made up from stolen bits of other older religions. The bible is pretty much just choc full of cultural appropriation. Nothing of christianity is original to that religion 😒
I’m mahmood and muslim but i was raised in an evangelical school but now after learning more about Mormons I believe they are the best. However the girl in this video is just lost I hope she appreciates these things later
I guess no one reads their Bible anymore about the Tithe. The reason why you wouldn’t tithe 10% which is in the Bible is you are lovers of money. The fact you think the church needs your money is pretty hilarious. Tithe is a test and the only Test the Bible talks about. You can’t serve money and God. Sure you don’t have to tithe but you are not putting your 100% faith in God. Paying a tithe is about you and where you heart is. There is literally hundreds of scriptures in the Bible about tithing. Those that love money will read past those verses. Personal relationships with Christ starts with your heart. Paul tells Timothy in 2 Timothy 2:3 In the last days people will be lovers of MONEY! Your excuse for not tithing is that churches don’t need my money or Jesus doesn’t need my money. First off if you have a relationship with Christ it’s not your money anyways it’s all Gods you are the manger of it. Choosing to just not obey the Bible and not tithe again what Paul tells Timothy that people will be lovers of MONEY! I didn’t see any proof in scripture where we shoudnt tithe….. Will a man rob or defraud God? Yet you rob and defraud Me. But you say, In what way do we rob or defraud You? [You have withheld your] tithes and offerings. (Malachi 3:8 AMPC) You are cursed with the curse, for you are robbing Me, even this whole nation. [Lev. 26:14-17.] (Malachi 3:9 AMPC) Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. [Mal. 2:2.] (Malachi 3:10 AMPC) Do not gather and heap up and store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust and worm consume and destroy, and where thieves break through and steal. But gather and heap up and store for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust nor worm consume and destroy, and where thieves do not break through and steal; For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matthew 6:19-21 AMPC)
Can you please get the name of our religion righ? Its The Church or Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Also what if I started talking bad about Muslims and what they wore. I would get canceled. Think about that and be respectful of beliefs.
I’m a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (formerly known as Mormons) and I just wanted to share my testimony. I know that our Savior Jesus Christ is the only way back to heaven. Not just by knowing Him, but by obeying Him and His laws. And His greatest commandment is to love thy neighbor. We have no right to judge, we must always forgive, and must love all. My faith in Jesus Christ is firm and unwavering. And I believe the spirit of God is the best thing one can have, hear, and feel. I pray we all follow the way of the Lord and repent of ours sins and ways of the world. I pray for no empty seats in Heaven 🤍🙏🏽
Don't feel bad this didn't get that much likes or stuff people come here to hear something bad about the church and won't even finish reading anything positive about it
That was a very nice way of putting it. I am totally for tithing and following the 10 commandments and the teachings of Jesus. I do not believe we can buy our way into heaven, or work our way into heaven. Yes we give money and have faith ...we do not judge lest God will judge us for doing so. I love a man who is very LDS and I pray every day he will wake up and know Jesus is the way. He is the best man I have ever known but due to church control and teaching he never believes he is good enough. That is sad. They need to be sued for covering for abuse as well both of children and wives.
I think she’s confusing her own family’s harsh rules with actual church doctrine. We watch tv, have skirts above the knees, and tithing is, while strongly advised, they won’t kick you out if you don’t comply. This is taken out of context and mainly untrue. Oh and most of the women in my ward are working mothers, that guy was just weird.
Nevermo here. AFAIK not paying a full tithing means you can't get a temple recommend. Which means you can't be at your loved ones' marriage. It's not the same as being kicked out but it's harsh anyway. Are you saying that's not true?
@@trevanon7450 Yes and should you fall ill or lose your job they will give you limited assistance if you are a full tithe payer. No matter you paid 40 years but didn't the last couple of years. I worked with a kind lady with cancer. She was still on chemo and had to work. They would only help her so long and that was limited. She had paid her tithing years and years. It was the beginning of the end of my respect for the church.
I got chastised by the Stake President for watching television on a Sunday. He overheard me in a private conversation discussing that Sunday night's episode.
Half of this video is either lies or misleading at best. I’m ex member as well but she’s not telling the truth. I HATE defending this religion but I also hate peoples misleading/lying. Here are some examples of her not telling the truth. She claims that “up until 1978, anyone other than pasty white people, could not WORSHIP or hold any position in the church.” THIS is an example of one truth and one lie. Block people couldn’t hold the Melchizedek Priesthood that is true. It is a LIE that black people couldn’t worship in the church. Woman ARE allowed to wear pants to church. This video is from 2022. She’s lying. Women might have been “looked down upon” for wearing pants to church but they absolutely CAN wear pants to church. Female missionaries do it. Church is NOT 3 hours long. This used to be true but it changed to two hours in 2019, 3 years before this video was uploaded. LIE. One persons opinion on women working is not official church doctoring. She’s not lying here someone likely said it but that’s one person’s interpretation. You CAN be gay at BYU, you cannot, however, perform same sex acts. While I don’t agree with this, it’s misleading nonetheless. Utah is not considered “the holy land.” It’s not the Mecca like in Islam or Jerusalem etc. Some may have called it a holy land but it’s not doctrinal. this is misleading and untrue.
I understand that what you are going through is hard. Its not your fault. Your parents did not explain clearly to you what you needed to know at 8 years old during baptism. If what you said is true, that you didn't know what you were going into, then you are right that is your parents AND your grandparents fault. You deserved the true knowledge. In "The Covenant of Baptism: To Be in the Kingdom and of the Kingdom" by Robert D. Hales, he urges parents AND grandparents to explain clearly what baptism means for 8 year olds. He also mentioned that, when Adults get baptized, they more fully understand the covenant promises that they are making. To take the Lords name upon them, and to always remember him, and there are more. Please I encourage everyone who wants to learn more about baptism, or is struggling with it, please read what Robert D. Hales said. It changed my life. I have given up video games and other things that have taken all my time and energy. As my life is completely centered on Christ, my life has been transformed. I know that the gospel is true. Please give the Lord a change to bless you!
@@The_worst_alchamists It's okay man, don't even argue with them, just let them laugh like Lamen and Lemuel. After all the truth was never something that was easy to swallow for most people.
All of this is true. I was never Mormon myself but I went to a Mormon church (because the people Mom and I rented from are Mormon)once and it was 3 hours long. I was 8. I never went again though. I never knew at the time it was a cult but I was very averse to it. Thankfully I was rightfully averse to it. I remember the day of the week I bought Super Mario 3d Land. It was on a Sunday. I remember specifically Mom telling me not to tell them that we went out and bought it on a Sunday. Now I didn’t have to live as a Mormon thankfully. But I saw this up close and in person for a long time. Those Mormons are still family friends and I hope and pray they come to Christ one day.
@ What are you talking about? Either you have the memory of a gold fish or you’ve been deceived. I think they were shortened to an hour and a half and it’s gotten much more relaxed. But this is how it was even 10 years ago.
@@natescorner nothing in this video is true. It doesn’t even make sense to debunk them because if you were actually a member of the LDS, you would know.
A teacher I had in high school would always be drinking a Monster energy drink, because she was Mormon and it doesn't allow coffee, apparently. I thought it was interesting, to say the least, that coffee isn't allowed, but somehow the chemical sludge that is Monster is somehow allowed? lmao
@@jeffs4483 Your comment perfectly reveal your extreme lack of knowledge, and rebelliousness, against the TRUE CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS.
@@jeffs4483 People like you, that are extremely lacking knowledge and rebelliousness is what JESUS CHRIST warned us Members of HIS CHURCH, the only TRUE CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, we should never cast pearls to Swines like you.
This is absurd, absolutely everything she just said is not true at all, ask me anything, and I will give the TRUE explanation on it. This made my mouth drop on how she made it sound
Okay. Before you assume that what she is saying is complete truth, have you done the research for yourself? (I'm not an LDS member. I left when I was 16 because I didn't feel that it was for me.) Read the Book of Mormon, and try to understand what it says before making a judgment call. Joseph Smith, I don't know truly much about, so I can't really say anything on him. But please do research before you assume.
From the beginning Jesus preached marriage between one man and one woman. There are examples of polygamy in the Old Testament but this was certainly not mainstream after Christ. Mormon doctrine promoted racist and polygamist ideology that they later went back on after “new revelations.” This is absurd to me because you can’t have new revelations when politically/socially convenient.
I said something but had to delete the comments because of arguing. I don't see the point of it but I do know this. I may not want to be a mormon anymore but the remaining ones can still if they want. I'll admit she said some stuff that are just total nonsense. What I only said was that I didn't want to be pressured of not doing certain things on Sundays while I'm at my own house. That's really it.
@Keaton42 I've been out of the church for years but you sound like someone I once knew. There was a family, they were Mormons and they would offer me to do things with them. Going to sleep over at their house, camping, playing games and toys, even babysit me with respect because most other people in different houses were mean. On the sleep over part they would always pray for me before eating dinner and when I'm about to sleep. When I had parties at church I was hanging out with them. My mom recently told me that when I was 5 years old those Mormons I'm happy with during the Christmas holidays told the fake Santa to go to my house and give me presents and I had a lot. I used to be really happy because they were so nice. But then one day when I was 9 they moved to another state and I felt so sad. Going to church didn't feel the same anymore. I was miserable that they were gone. I never forget those days I've had. About me leaving though I got in trouble for saying I'm going shopping after church. I don't want to say the rest because it got worse but yeah.
I love the lds community. This church feels like my family. They are so welcoming and loving, I also have a couple gay friends in the church. Yes we can wear pants and watch tv on Sundays. And no it’s not 3 hours long
@@haydenhodges34 imagine leaving LDS because rainbow flags are banned. thats literally against ALL religions LOL. every time I've watched one of these videos the people leaving always do it for the pettiest of reasons
To the angel Macaroni, if you are reading this....please bring back the gold plates so that Mormons will have one piece of legitimate evidence to support the Book of Mormon.
True Jesus Christ loves everyone as those who you see are people worth enough for Christ to have died for. But let’s remember that He is also just and will punish you if you do not obey Him. I’m just saying that because when you say that Jesus will love you no matter what kinda makes it sound like you can eat, drink and be merry and still live with God again when that is completely untrue of course. Jesus Christ is the way and if you don’t choose that way you will be cast out. Note that punishments help us learn and proves God’s love for us.
@@bobleeswagger474 I promise they do and will. There are millions of people. Get out and get involved in things with other people. You just need to meet the right ones.
@@ralphwiggam7630 GOD the Eternal FATHER, and HIS WIFE, GODDESS, our beloved HOLY Eternal MOTHER knows, your endless excuses, lies, due to your extreme rebelliousness and lack of knowledge, of the only, TRUE CHURCH, that started in the PRE-MORTAL LIFE. You left the CHURCH, and that's your agency, but you can't leave the CHURCH alone?
@@VAATAUSILI4139 Why are you here attacking people? Making deceitful, untrue straw-man arguments? You have no "truth" to stand on, so you immediately start to make personal attackks ... I no longer attend because I am tired of all the liies ... you don't even know what you have been liied to about ... Everything you think you know about our doctrine and history is nothing but a fabrication ... sorry ... but I doubt you are even aware ...
@@VAATAUSILI4139 I didn't find out the truth until AFTER I came home from a 2-year mission and getting married in the temple ... Why don't we teach the truth about the fabrication that is the "Book of Abraham"? Why don't we advertise that that Joseph actually had NINE totally different, even contradictory versions of his "first vision? Why don't we admit the truth about the temple? Or that less than a month after himself becoming a 33rd Degree Mason, Joseph created our own "endowment"? Why aren't we honest about our "signs and tokens" being EXACT COPIES of masonic handshakes? Why don't we advertise that the modern "church" holds over $200 BILLION DOLLARS of stocks and bonds? Why don't we ever warn people that Joseph was a viile phedofiile, and married over 34 women, including multiple 14yhearrolldchiilldren, other men's wives, and mother-daughter sets? You see ... I found out that I was liied to ... and stopped attending ... literally zero "siins", "excuses", or anything else ... I just don't like being liied to ... sorry ...
@@ralphwiggam7630 if you want to leave the church don't feel ashamed about it because in the church's lore after the end we will all dwell in the three kingdoms of heaven unless your a satin worshiper (nice name BTW)
Some are actually not true I'm a very active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints and through all my experience I didn't experience anything like sadness , loneliness and badness all of the other members are very nice when it's your first time going to our church the people act like you really belong there as if you have been there for like years so don't hate our religion because LDS members are very nice people ❤❤❤❤
HELP. I have someone mormon in my family, and they will get extremely mad if i mention anything about its culty behavior. Its not their fault though, they grew up with it and were fed false information. I need some help breaking the truth subtly to them. Please!
Ex-Mormon here. This video is full of “misinformation” as people do say nowadays. I’m all about exposing the lies we’re were fed in our childhood and adolescence. That being said, I am not in favor of a minute-and-half long video of “exposing Mormonism “ with half truths. Congrats on taking the very 2023 approach of race and sexual orientation to get some likes. Too bad you literally missed the 10,000 other points of doctrinal fallacies. We’ll let someone explain that knows about it, how about that?
lol so half of these things are not church doctrine. We are allowed to wear pants to church, there’s no dress code. “Come as you are” is a quote we strongly believe in. Also women missionaries are allowed to wear dress pants. In addition to that, on Sundays, there’s no strict rule on what we have to do. Most follow the Bible, keep the sabbath day holy. However the personal families interpret that, is up to them and them alone. I go out to eat and play sports on Sundays 🤷🏻♀️, but I know many families who prefer to spend time with each other and don’t spend money on Sundays (which actually is in the Bible, not making people work on Sunday’s, so a lot of mormons don’t support people having to work on Sunday, so they won’t spend money at those places). The church is all about AGENCY. You can do as you please. I’ve seen a lot of ex mormons complain about how they never could do anything as a mormon and how it’s a cult, but just because you grew up in a strict mormon family, does not mean that all mormons are that way or that the church tells us to be that way. The church might give recommendations , but it’s never a rule. You can always do what you want to, you have agency. I joined the church when I was 19, so I have seen it from both sides. I have a very strong opinion on the ex mormon community and the hate we get. I can understand why some people feel hurt by people of the church. But something i’m very strong about is just because you were hurt by people of the church does not mean our doctrine is false and also doesn’t mean every mormon is bad. You have to remember the reason why you’re there, which is God. You’re not there for the members of the church. That’s why i’m strong on people needing to gain a testimony of the Book of Mormon. Because if you’re just a member because you grew up a mormon and you don’t have that personal relationship with God or that testimony of the Book of Mormon, obviously you’ll probably want to leave, because humans are humans and they might say something offensive that could you hurt you. We have to realize that the people of the church are not perfect. Same thing for even the leaders of our church. We are all human and make mistakes, and we have to remember that we are at church for God alone. The church is not perfect, only God is. I grew up strict Baptist, and had people say things all the time that made me want to leave. I ended up leaving the church after realizing they didn’t have half the answers I was looking for, and I also had no personal relationship to God. After years of basically being non religious, I felt so empty and lost. After joining the “mormon” church, I found God again, and have strengthened my relationship with Him so much more than ever before. I am way happier than I have ever been and love the church. I’ve had things said to me by members and I don’t even have a lot of friends in the church, but I can’t deny how the temple makes me feel and how truly better my life has been since i’ve joined. All I can say is, for those who judge mormons, seeking information from actual members and praying and asking God about our church, could really change your perspective.
This is the gospel of Christ 👉(1Cor 15:1-4). This gospel was a mystery =Ephesians 6:19/Romans 16:25,26 Nobody knew about Jesus death burial and resurrection before His death. But In the book of Mormon the gospel of Christ was being preached before His death, which is not true.
I hate defending this church but you’re lying. They are not the majority shareholder of this company. You clearly don’t understand how “even more rich” they would be if they were the majority shareholder of this company.
Alright first off we don’t curse people or color We didn’t allow people of color to hold position but they could worship but was a mistake that’s why its not a thing anymore. Joseph actually had 40 wife’s some of which were 14 but polygamy is very discouraged nowadays There’s literally no dress code so all people can come what are you talking about You can do other things on Sunday’s it’s discoraged to buy stuff or do thing that require the service of employed people. And they don’t like it if you work on Sunday but otherwise who cars also 2 hours Your right no coffee or tea mainly because of caffeine and coffee is more addicting then coke that’s why That talk that guy gave suprised me but trust me one guys words aren’t the entire church’s Yes bishops and other leader can ask you to give testimony and talks BUT YOUR ALLOWED TO SAY NO WITH NO PUNISHMENT Banning rainbow flags doesn’t mean no gay people it’s probably about the propaganda but you can be a gay and go to byu Yeah we do think the holy land is in Utah the Missouri thing the church doesn’t push out anymore so I think it was a honest mistake You always have to wear certain under where. and special cloths are always required for temples There not gonna point a gun to your head or kick you out if you don’t but it is highly encouraged All of things the church owns and has shares in are to get more money and most of the money goes to the member of the church a lot of which is very charitable like helping men ever who can’t afford a meal they take care of there members No they don’t it’s a just chance you live in a high missionary area also you can ask to get your records removed no quitmormon.com Sorry for long comment
Bro are you the prophet to make all these bold claims? You don’t know that the skin color thing was a mistake. You also don’t know why we can drink coke but not coffee. Say what you know instead of telling what you feel or understand.
@@PastGens Nothing about religion is know. Since the time I wrote this comments I’ve learned a ton. I don’t think that things like that are mistakes anymore instead I think god needed them to happen to get to the circumstances the church is at today. The coke but no coffee thing your right I don’t know, but the church hasn’t told us so I’m left up to find the most logical conclusion. Your right I’m no prophet but that doesn’t mean I can’t hold my own opinions on why we do what we do or can’t be knowledgeable enough to answer tough questions.
@@cooperrichards2434 No sorry if I sounded rude, basically my point is that you probably should have specified that this is not known doctrine. That's all.
I refused to go at 12. the next week they told me the elders suggest they lock me in my closet with a bucket for my business. they got away with that for a grand total of one time. I was a lot tougher than they thought. Dont even get me going on femalely home evening. I do wish I could still have my own galaxy and planet though. Oh well my Aussie would most probably stage a take over and run the realm and he would get all the babes like always.
I know satanic luciferian lie that they come up with its Smith made out of his ass again part of making a cold as you use basic stuff in your twisted and overtime people fall for it and then you get away with making more stuff and you're mentally ill in fabricating nonsense that goes against anything it's actually basic religion or actually good sacred texts Etc. Satanists Smith was a satanic scammer and you got away with it.
I'm coming from an outsiders perspective and this is very confusing 😭 I think I should stop procrastinating on my homework cause It's getting me to weird places. All I'm gonna say is that sounds rough
You folks don’t get it. Joseph Smith really did see God the father and Jesus Christ in a simple answer to prayer. John the Baptist , Peter , James and John came too. The sealing power is again on the earth and prophets and apostles now guide His church. I KNoW this is true. All this other junk is just accusatory fog.
Let's weigh the amount of evidence in order to make a good determination. 1) Joseph Smith did not tell anyone he had seen God the Father and Jesus Christ, and it wasn't until 1838 that he had his scribe write it down -- years after the claimed event. Assistant Church Historian Dr. James B. Allen wrote an article in 1966 saying that "none of the available contemporary writings about Joseph Smith in the 1830's, none of the publications of the Church in that decade, and no contemporary journal or correspondence yet discovered mentions the story of the first vision...." The first time Joseph Smith told of his First Vision it was 1832 when he said it was a visitation of "the Lord" who told him his sins were forgiven. He said (and he wrote in his own handwriting) "I saw the Lord." Joseph Smith did not say he saw the Father. Then in 1835 he dictated an account to his scribe, Warren Parrish, who wrote it in Joseph Smith's 1835-6 Diary. In this account Joseph says "A pillar of fire appeared above my head,...a personage appeared in the midst of this pillar of flame which was spread all around, and yet nothing consumed, another personage appeared, he said unto me 'thy sins are forgiven thee, he testifyed [sic] unto me that Jesus Christ is the Son of God; and I saw many angels in this vision." Joseph did not claim these personages were the Father and the Son until 1842. Even the Deseret News did not say Joseph Smith had seen the Father and the Son. In 1852 they published the church's account of Joseph Smith First Vision, where they said Joseph had given an account of his "first Visitation of Angels, which was when I was about fourteen years old..." It was not until Joseph Smith CHANGED his theology away from a Trinitarian viewpoint over to a belief that God and Jesus were personages of separate bodies that Joseph Smith began to claim he saw the Father and the Son. His accounts of the First Vision did not start until 1832 when he wrote down one account saying he "saw the Lord." In 1832 he still believed in the Trinity. He gradually changed his theology until 1842 when he developed the idea that God the Father and Jesus were 2 separate persons. The story regarding Peter, James and John coming to visit was concocted much later. In fact Joseph never even gave a date, month or year when Peter, James and John supposedly visited. You'd think he would have remembered that!!!! Date unknown, is all we know. Also this newly developing theology conflicts with Joseph Smith's earlier theology. Notice Joseph Smith has a Prophet state in the Book of Mormon that the dead will not rise until the Second Coming (Alma 40:2). So how could the resurrected Peter, James, and John have physically appeared to Joseph Smith? These glitches (and there are many more) are evidence that Joseph Smith concocted these stories, just as he concocted the Golden Plates, and the story of Moroni, who in the earliest accounts is named as being "The Prophet Nephi." And you KNOW this is true? How? Because you have a "feeling." The followers of Jim Jones (People's Temple) *also had a strong witness from God* that Jim Jones was God's spokesman. And they were willing to die for this testimony! And they did die for it. Are you claiming that YOUR testimony is the only valid one, and everyone else who has a witness about a faith that conflicts with yours is incorrect? Of course that is your claim. The *Followers of Heaven's Gate all testified of the Truthfulness* and warm witness from God they had of their faith. FEELINGS are NOT TRUTH. The Truth is found by having EVIDENCE to back it up. There is NONE for Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. WAKE UP before it is too late!
With all the list of bad things, they have one good thing they dont allow gay. Why they need to expand gay would do a disservice to the mormon expansion 😅
Bro this is wild I am morman some of my best friends are black I play video games on Sunday for at least 3 hours I love soda my sister gose to church all of time with pants my church has also said he thinks it is wonderful that we are evolving in the community it bring up women. One think is true and it is that we don’t really support lgbtq 🏳️🌈 community but so don’t all christians and it is not really banned just not supported like my sister that still gose to the church even though she is gay and she loves the church and the outfits is completely false and I have NEVER hear of it btw I am married and you and not required to give 10% it is optional and your not supposed to give any money like allowance if is like an option tax and if you are wondering why would I want to give tithing it gose to people in our ward btw ever year ever church spends thousands of dollars on homeless people and we give it around this money coming from our opinion tithing so tithing is more of a donation and we believe that ANYONE can get into heaven as we do baptisms for the dead for people that never got baptized here on earth and you can expect it if you want or you can not except it and live with satin and with the 100 billion is completely off our leader is not even a millionaire and we use about 80% of the tithing for less fortunate people the other 20% is for water bill and building more churches and yes they try once to bring you back but if you say no then they will forever leave you alone
@@alexisvalere4095 bro don’t asume a whole religion is racist. We aren’t racist, one of our key doctrines mastery scriptures says “Inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female, and he remembereth the heathen and all are alike unto god” -2 nephi 27 :33 Like broskie, and even then we have common human morals on not being racist.
I do not know if these are true or not, but I do know that Mormonism is wrong. I do know the Book of Mormon is false, but we can’t spread hate. Let me tell you that Jesus Christ loves you. I encourage you to read the Bible from time to time. I pray you find Jesus in the end. Jesus loves you.
@@jeffs4483 i've been in 3 different wards and never heard of it. Quick question: do you have personal experience with being forbid watching tv on sundays in your ward or do you only think this from stories of others?
I posted a longer response that shows how many things she’s either lying or misleading people about. Not a fan of this church but telling those who don’t know anything as if these are all facts is wrong. Some truths but half of this video is untrue.
@@jeffs4483 please read several of my comments on other posts for this video cause I’m not watching it again but I’ll say one easy one. She says that church is 3 hours long, it used to be but the changes it to 2 hours, 2 years before she posted this video. Not a huge falsehood but untrue nonetheless. Some others were much more egregious misinformation
@@jeffs4483 That you have to pay to get into heaven. As a Mormon I can say what we believe is that there are three heavens for three different groups of people people will be equally as happy in each one of them and the only way to not go into one is to be a satin worshiper.
i also was yelled at for trying to drink greentea until i talked with the bishop much stuff is messed up from religion but jesus is real and amazing!!!! they stopped hunting people down at least in oregon who want to leave and they made church much shorter i guess but i loved being baptized but they go against scriptures by pressuring 8 year olds to do it because it says dont do it unless a man is ready to die for the gospel and has good understanding right in the scriptures they believe in or say they do and then they pressure 8 year olds into it strange or at least some did
i found out it wasnt one of their beleifs but my dad was confused but then there are certain mormons who are more extreme then others its all crazy @@racoonbreath
@@adorability7 Steven Hassan formost authority on cult has bite model. Behavior,information,thought,emotional controls. Dress,tone of voice,food,time,money,newname? All points to cult
@@adorability7 called word wisdom no hot beverages and only meat in times of need. Truth no coffee,tea,coke products. Brainwashed pick choose then say its caffine. No its cult lol
That’s so great to hear. Stories of people who convert to LDS because of negative misinformation posted on social media are the best. Glad to have you.
Is it not weird to anyone when your faith evolves to meet current societal norms even though their God is incapable of making mistakes? Good example of this is the relationship with people of color and the Mormon church. Like, really? Mormom Jesus just decided one day in 1978 that this isn't ok anymore?
Funny how the Mormon robots won't touch this comment but are trying to troll me on others with vague retorts and bullshit religious text references. I'm not your problems Mormon's, you guys walking around and trying to convince each other "this is the true church, I know because I've gone to a few different Christian churches and 0 Jewish, Muslim, insert any other religion here church, I KNOW THIS IS THE TRUE CHURCH!"
I love when Mormons don't know their own damn history and yet come on public message boards to defend their faith. Makes me feel so damn good, I know its petty, but I despise how condescending and holier than thou they have become as a faith.
Ok, as a current latter-day saint and someone who likes to learn about history of the church I will try to explain some of the issues you seem very concerned about. Yes, it’s true that people of color, more specifically black and African American members weren’t allowed to receive leadership roles (some of which I can’t really explain because it’d take too long) in the past. Even though it is said to be a command from our Heavenly Father or God, I believe (and other members too) that this was done by leaders to adhere to beliefs from those times when segregation and racism was sadly very common. Maybe they were just personal beliefs, you know how people can be, even if they are called by God to lead and preach. And we see that happening in scripture too. Anyways, that can be the case now too. We see leaders changing “rules” or more often recommendations really, to be more adapted to these times. Yes, it can be odd even for members, but at the end of the day it is the individuals that decide what to do and not. Yes we are told to listen to our leaders and prophets, but you also need to learn to identify what is to be done and not according to what you have learned (hopefully) from scriptures etc. Also, it really is about “feeling” which church you believe is the real one out of the millions out there, and actually, there are resources for members and non members if you’d like to learn about religions like Islam. I could find you some links if you’d like. Besides, leaders of different churches and our church meet in conferences and other types of meetings to learn about each others differences and similarities and help people around the globe regardless of religious beliefs. The point is to LOVE ONE ANOTHER and live a rightful life that you can benefit from. Again, I could find some resources if you’d like to learn more, I apologize for not being able to give you detailed information. Overall, just believe in what you want to, we believe that you are here on earth to learn and make your own decisions as you see best fit. I believe in the church because yes, it makes me feel good and I’ve received so much from God and members alike. I’m glad to be a member and I hope that you guys don’t waste your time if you really don’t want to but just try out different things and religions. There’s something for everyone out there. Thank you for reading all of that if you did. I hope to have explained well as English isn’t my first language. Take care
What would Jesus have done in this situation because he loves all and does not hate on anyone, John 8:7 “So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” Are we being true to The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost
After doing some of my own research on Mormons, I've placed them in the same category as Scientology.
It's worse than Scientology. Scientologists are not Racist and obsessed with Sex like the LDS. Both are crazy, Yes.
You my friend, have unfortunately made the same mistake this here girl has😂
I’ll give you a hint. Read the Book of Mormon. That’s a great place to start. If you wanna go visit all the slanderous pages and organizations after that, be my guest. But real research starts at the source.
@@johnescobar6
Ex Mormon here. I've already been through the lies and abuse of the LDS cult.
@@johnescobar6
Read the CES letter or better yet, read true LDS history.
L. Ron Hubbard was a science fiction author while Joseph Smith was a bible fan fiction author. Totally different!
I’m not a member of the LDS but the ones I meet have been some of the most nicest people I ever met.
You're not a member? Of course they are! LOL You have no idea on the inside. We are the best at the "Facade"
I thankfully didn’t join.. good friends brought me back on track. I was feeling ill…
@@oiitsoranglee What?
Thats how they get you. My grandmother was the best recruiter for the Mormon church, somehow even got my grandfather to convert from being Baptist around the age of 60. They are playing the long game.
@@bobleeswagger474 if you act nice and do nice things for other people, at some point aren’t you a nice person even if you do it in hope that someone will join your religious organisation?
I’m sure your grandma was awesome.
Why do Mormons practice their faith differently in different households? I was raised as a Mormon, and what she said doesn’t match my experiences
Did she say anything factual about the Mormon church?
No💀 shes a liar this isnt true
Great grandpa and grandpa were both bishops. Always heard it’s 2% of your income as a family and if you quit the church they ban you from entering the temple. Nothing she said wasn’t a lie.
Same
@@Shane-lc5od Well it's not entirely a lie, more of an opinion twisted fact. Basically, it depends on your experiences and I would say not all the churches are like that. We used to move around A LOT and no matter where we went, even when we stopped being a part of the Mormon church, they helped us out. We lived in Utah though, so it is much more different than anywhere else and the churches other people have been talking about were mostly out of state as I've seen.
Hey I left the church too, but you really should check your facts on some of the stuff you’re regurgitating
Ex member here. Name one thing wrong.
Factual Errors:
“The Book of Mormon states God curses people of color.”
No. There are “people of color” (all people have a melanin count somewhere on a spectrum) who God has not cursed, in the Book of Mormon.
If you hate the Book of Mormon it’s because you have decided in advance to hate it, or you’re projecting your bad experience with the church onto the book.
Some things (like “women are not allowed to wear pants to church”) are obvious exaggerations. What? A woman in pants will get kicked out of church? That’s just silly.
However, I don’t like defending the church since I consider it a corrupt business masquerading as a religion, duping a lot of people.
@@jeffs4483oh and the whole “Joseph Smith married 14 year olds” is highly contested. There’s a whole spectrum of belief ranging from “Joseph Smith was never a polygamist-he was framed by Brigham Young” to “Joseph Smith was a pedophile” and it’s a CHOICE which evidence you will investigate and which conclusion you will come to. I highly doubt this girl has spent more than an hour considering an alternative to the historical narrative of Joseph Smith’s actions peddled by both the Brighamites and the exmormons.
I get it-many of us got burned by the church and now we’re angry. We should take some time to heal, but not propagate a false narrative to justify more anger. It sucks to be in Utah around people who think we’re crazy for leaving their “holy cult”, but we’re not crazy. We’ve just been wounded by lies. It’s time to heal.
@@ThomasFackrell
Are you joking? Of course the BoM is racist. That's the entire concept of the book.
@@ThomasFackrell
J. Smith did marry underage girls. That is a fact.
Wow I watch TV on Sundays. Wear dresses above the knees and know several members who are gay. Not sure where you got your information. Church is 2 hours long. Yes, you can have your name removed with no big drama.
Lol bro who u fooling I lived this shit you can’t say it’s not true. They changed it to 2 hrs long recently, and my sister is gay and I know how awfully she was treated. You don’t know shit.
Liar.
It used to be 3 hours, though...
Sorry but everything you said is the opposite of my experience.
@@ethansmith8463yeah it used to be. She posted this video in 2022 and they changed the length of church in 2019. So she’s either unaware of the changes or purposely lying for clicks. I am an ex member and no longer religious but I also don’t like lies being told to people as truths. If someone watched this video and didn’t know much about this church they would’ve heard half of the video as true things and believed the other half yet it’s be lies or misleading. There are plenty of truths in this clip that are damning to this church she should’ve left out those parts that aren’t true.
Why has it become normalized to bash the religion of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Its no different than bashing the religion of other Christians or another belief. Please remember that members of the church are human and respect what we believe be in.
I am a part of the LDS church and we do not send missionaries to hunt you down and try and bring you back. We just suggest that you come back because we think you’re in a hard time and that’s why you left.
It was fabricated a couple hundred years ago so Joseph Smith could have women and influence. I hope and pray everyone will see that.
Family/ community is important regardless of religious status.
There a big difference if you study religion my brother
@Chaneleon-u4t Because it’s fake and a cult why would you believe in Joseph smith of Utah said all of this bullshit when you could turn your life to god and believe in real facts about the lord and savior Jesus Christ. Your religion is a joke give me a break.
Oh how I love this church and the uplifting teachings, the godly influence I feel in the temple and the meetings. I just love the Book of Mormon and the stream of truth and blessing insights.
Of course there happen mistakes, because we are just normal human beings, but most of us are enjoying the love of the Lord flowing to us while trying to become and serving better ❤❤❤
I don't know if you know, please we must capitalize the G when referring to the most high God. small g refers to demon gods, it's in the Bible, Deutoronomy and Leviticous and Kings. I hope this helps. words matter, let's keep evil away
it's crazy how most the stuff is wrong and all the rest is taken out of context
That’s not true most of them are somewhat true except when she says that you “have to” or “can’t” do something.
Name one.
I'm still waiting on a list of prophecies that Joseph Smith alleges to have come true.
@@jeffs4483
SO TRUE
@@davidhepworth8072
Still can't name one. That's what I thought.
Alma 36:27
"And I have been supported under trials and troubles of every kind, yea, and in all manner of afflictions; yea, God has delivered me from prison, and from bonds, and from death; yea, and I do put my trust in him, and he will still deliver me"
Alma is not Christian Scripture.
Thank you for my way out. I sent in my resignation today.
Congratulations.
Jesus was still connected to God imo. Hope you still consider the NT, especially Mark, the earliest gospel.
Freemasons are not, NOT Christian!!!
@@3thingsfishing427Jesus Christ is God. ❤️🔥✝️🙏
@@SuperGamerBPraise God! Blessings to you in Jesus name.✝️🙏🔥♥️
I just wanna say that nothing of what you have said is going to make me get out of this church because I know most of the answers to your claims, yesterday, I wasn’t able to answer more than 2. After praying, reading the Bible and the Book of Mormon, and receiving personal revelation from the Holy Spirit (I felt every feeling it suppose to make you feel) and now my faith has increased. Jesus Christ is my savior and your savior, repent and comeback to the restored gospel of Jesus Christ.
So true! This video made my faith stronger! I’m so happy for you brother. God loves you.
She never said you have to leave your religion lol. This is her personal experience.
His real name isn’t even Jesus. It’s yeshua
You mormons are whacked😅😅😅
Thanks for this beautiful comment. ❤
Not all LDS churches are like this. I’m bisexual, have an active sex life, wear pants, and am a Nondenominational Christian. Where I attend other women have worn pants no problem. Members and missionaries are all very amiable and church only lasts 2 hours unless you wanna stay for activities. I've been attending almost a year, they are always welcoming and don't care I’m not converting nor try to force it on me. We just happily co-mingle and get along. Some LDS churches may be like that but the one I've been at is very kind and nonjudgmental.
Repent
It's early yet...wait until you are a member.
@DecemberSfy You're bisexual and have an active sex life. Well, that's not allowed in the Mormon Church. If they were to interview to determine whether or not you're worthy enough to be baptized, they would tell you that you're NOT worthy enough. You will have to be celibate or be in a heterosexual traditional marriage ONLY, if you are to be considered worthy enough to be a member of the Mormon Church. They'll excommunicate a member who's sexually active if they aren't heterosexual and married in a heterosexual marriage ONLY.
And of course they're welcoming to you right now. That's because you aren't a member of the Church yet. Things will change drastically once you're a member. As a member the male Bishop (notice only males are allowed to have authority in the Mormon Church -- women are not allowed in the priesthood) will consider it his right to discipline you.
ALL Mormon Churches are Dictated to by the HQ in Salt Lake City. You might be attending a ward where the Bishop is more Liberal (might). But once you're a member you'll have to obey the rules or be disciplined.
Have you listened to the channel "Mormon Stories"? Lots of Mormons tell of their experiences there. And then they usually get excommunicated for speaking about the abuse they've suffered.
lets say hi!
I guarantee if you came out to the members and or bishop that you were bisexual and having premarital sex you would be shamed like no other. Premarital sex is a sin above murder in the LDS religion btw lol. Also up until a few years ago, mormon church service used to be 3 hours long so you are obviously new and don’t know a thing about mormonism🤡🤣
This is severely out of date. Services are now only 2 hours long, and women may wear pants. Even I know this and I'm not a Mormon!
So you skipped right over everything else! Racism being one ???
This girl is crazy. I've seen the fruits of this attitude in my best friend. Pure crazy. Exaggerating, over generalizing, and random sort of facts out of context. You can leave the church, but you can't leave it alone. That's crazy fruits.
The part about God cursing people of color according to the book of Mormon. Was that true?
You have no right to invade her experience and religious trauma. Just because your experience isn’t like this doesn’t mean hers is any less real.
@@keifer7813that rule has changed by now but it used to be a thing.
@@Bunxana That didn't sound like a rule. It sounded like a historic statement. Does the book say that it happened or no?
This topic deserves more time to discuss the issues. Short videos like this (IMO) make the creator come across in quite a negative light.
there’s a website for that??!? they were stressing me out thanks :)
Or use critical thinking. People lived and still live without knowlege of a supreme-being idea, they didn't pray for guidance. They used their own body they were born with. Brains are there for a reason. @Keaton42
i kind of feel bad watching this because she used the words “you can’t” more than 20 times. mormons can do whatever they want. sometimes they choose not to do things that distract them from god. being mormon is not about following rules!!!
being mormon is about believing that joseph smith was a prophet of god. everything else is just christian.
I feel bad for you...I am.a mormon
And you cant....you can not..yiu definitely can not be honest and truthful in this religion.
Everyone is fake. The bishops are fake and liars. The bishops at my church know about a child molester and have done nothing about it and still let him baptize children and now his getting his endowment.
What kind of church is this??
Modern society is so messed up with violence, anxiety, debt, addiction, divorce, sickness, people looking for happiness they'll never find etc etc so much so that the mormon Church this lady is describing could become more appealing in the future 😢😮😊
While there are appropriate responses to all of these statements, perhaps the one to share should be regarding women wearing pants in church. Since the first chapter in the Bible, God has demanded respect from all of His creations. In the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, we love our Heavenly Father and show that love by having respect for Him, for others, and for ourselves. Since the beginning of time, respect was shown for God by wearing the finest clothes which were available when attending worship services. For millenia, men and women were expected to wear clothing which was modest and appropriate to their gender when entering places dedicated to worship. I would be surprised if you could find any Christian church before the 1950’s, in the United States or possibly the world, where women were not required to routinely wear a dress when in the chapel or it’s equivalent. It is still a sign of respect for the men to at least wear a white shirt, slacks and a tie to church, and a suit is considered most appropriate. While the Savior would never exclude a sincere seeker of truth from any participation in His church, there are many ways to see that all understand and are able to show the proper respect for the ordinances. For at least the last 30 years, I am not aware of any ward (congregation) where someone was barred from entering the chapel because of their dress. If their clothing is too immodest, there are usually several members ready to loan them appropriate substitutes and assist them in preparing to worship properly. Women who are investigating the church often attend wearing pants, and usually no comment is made, unless questioned. If they continue to attend, they quickly recognize the difference in clothing and generally start dressing to blend with the other attendees. It is a shame that, even within the church, each succeeding generation seems to be being taught less and less about respect for Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, and respect for others and themselves. As an additional comment: for approximately the past six years, sister missionaries have been allowed to wear pants while proselyting.
As a Member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Not LDS or Mormon, that is not the name of the church and is a very important distinction) I ask that all of you instead of watching videos online, read the Book of Mormon. And with an open heart pray and ask god if it's true. Do your own research and don't be biased as you do it, go to the source and find out for yourself. Religion is a personal matter and you shouldn't let people on the internet sway your opinion without evidence. Not a single source other than herself was used, that is far from intellectually honest. Stay safe, stay healthy, and I hope and pray you are all able to prove to yourselves what you believe.
I’m not a Mormon but I have been going to a Mormon church for the past few weeks. Aside from everyone being incredibly nice, I’m a female who has worn pants each time. I’ve also seen other women there wearing pants. I heard about a member of the congregation coming out as gay in his testimony and no one seemed too upset about it. Also, I haven’t been asked for even a donation. I just feel like this her experience might not be the same for all the churches.
Edit: it’s been several months since I wrote this. I freely admit I was wrong. I appreciate people trying to post important warnings about the Mormon church. I do in fact believe it is a cult and thankfully I am no longer a part of it. After commenting, I did begin to notice that women at the church do not usually wear pants and I was definitely love bombed and manipulated from the start. Please be weary of the Mormon church. There is a lot more to it than meets the eye.
Once you go through the "consecrations" they will make you tithe 10%.
I think this lady is making some of this up but some family’s are different and don’t like drinking tea or coffee on sundays some do and it’s ok, and being gay in the church is awesome we except all!
this lady is making up 95% of stuff on this video. Not sure why she made so many lies on the video
Uhhhh, she's not making any of this up. Also, Mormons say they accept lgbt people, but that doesn't really match up with the rules and comandents. I'm bisexual and i left the church as soon as i turned 18. @SupercarNdirtbikes
@@ElijahRees first off we except everyone most Mormons love and support the lgbtq community
- Thousands of years ago, doesn’t apply today at all
- Anyone worthy can hold a position in the church
- At the time, everyone was a polygamist, no matter your religion, you had thousands of people as a polygamist
- Men and women can wear anything they want. As long as it’s not insanely inappropriate (as in showing privates)
- Church is actually 2 hrs long and you can do whatever you want on Sundays, it’s just to your best judgement
- Nobody forces you to not drink certain things, we just don’t like those things as much that do badly to your body
- Exactly, nobody forces you to do anything
- I don’t think you’ve been to byu and we just follow the scriptures and what’s normal
- Utah is the holy land bc that’s where the pioneers settled
- The underwear and outfits just aren’t true, but we do have garnments which are optional to wear. They are just a reminder to keep our bodies clean
- Again, tithing is optional, no, kids do not usually pay it, and we believe everyone gets into heaven almost no matter what (you have to be as bad as satan or hitler or Cane to get into hell)
- Revenues literally go to building churches and temples to bring people to Christ, to save them
- We do not own any of those things actually, I mean I guess we do have a couple small museum type things
- If you tell the missionaries you don’t want them to come, they will not come, and they will not not lie or do anything you told them not to. They are like the best people
0:01 It’s not a cult, it’s a church that has it’s own religions.
0:07 so you didn’t want to make a promise with god to extent your loving relationship about your religion with other people?
0:12 also, there is a verse in the Book of Mormon where god loves everyone equally.
0:28 just today, I saw a woman with pants at my church. She actually has a very hood calling for the church, and has many spiritual things happen to her.
0:31 you are allowed to do things on Sunday, but some things are restricted due to the day being sacred to the religion. Sunday’s are meant for everyone to love and get together with their families. There are many activities you can do on sundays as well. It’s mostly just sports and shopping that aren’t really good to do, but you have the complete right to do them. You can watch TV as well, by the way.
0:35 coffee and tea are things I didn’t understand very well, but I like to ignore them because either way they are bad for you can don’t seem much of a problem. By the way, coffee and tea can be very addictive.
0:43 that was very rude and unwise of him.
0:51 so you didn’t want to give a talk in the church because you didn’t want too? Uhm. As a Mormon giving a talk is one of the most incredible things that I can possibly feel. It makes my heart happy since I can feel the love of the spirit.
0:55 yes, Adam and Eve are a perfect example of not being gay. Being gay means that you cant have children. While the opposite means you can live with your family. Also, I wouldn’t recommend going to BYU if you feel this way.
0:58 what’s wrong with that? Either way, the second coming is when we all migrate to Missouri.
1:02 yes, garments. It’s a loving way of showing your relationship with your religion. Besides, they seem very comfortable, and I’m only 14.
1:07 giving your tithing is meant for the restricted people who are disabled. The 10% money members donate if to help the lives of others. I’m 14, and I’m a kid. Giving 10% of the 10 dollars I have isn’t something horrible.
1:26 hunt you down? Serving a mission isn’t forcing people to believe in their religion. Instead we leave it optional but try to teach it to you.
You done with your thesis, Utah?
Huh?
Womp womp
You're only 14 so you probably do mean well, but mormonism is something devised from the pit of hell. I deeply wish for you to find the true love of our God and savior Jesus Christ and will be praying for your redemption. God bless 🙏
Mormons really think biblical events happened in America? The garden of Eden? Sounds very white to me
The thing about the ages of his wives remember he was 14 when he made the religion and in his 20s when he was killed in prison. Its not like he was 56 and the girl is 9. Anyone that studies religions will get that refrence. Also it was 1820 when he made it people were getting married at 14 up through the like 1940s depending on what part of the country, it was normal even in my grandmothers day.
He was killed when he was 38 - not in his 20s. And he lied and hid these marriages from the public as long as he could so apparently society at the time didn't approve
I am a current practicing member. A lot of this is technically correct (at least the base of what is being discussed, not her comments about it) but a lot of it is pretty wrong or personal choice. I love my religion. Everyone has their choice to oppose it. I just feel sorry and hope everyone the best. It is sad to see how much deception comes from former member though. I don’t believe it’s purposeful deception, but it is sad to see.
Keep grazing, sheep
Holy shit could you be more full of yourself? Save your sorrys and sadness for your fellow mormons, the rest of us don't need your condicending bs.
@@AeraGreywulf Excuse me?
@@AeraGreywulfkeep scrolling, freak
My landlord went crazy because I received a package and I didn’t get it till two hours later! She called me rude and had the face of evil on her face. That’s when I knew she was faking her lds faith. Her husband told me it’s okay. But just told him I’m not a therapist and she needs it.
Never pay rent to a mormon.
Never ever trust a Mormon.
@averyjames4623 Literally 😢 my fam ended up in a secret mormon HOA "Fairfield Harbour, NC" they also have control over the court there cant wait to get everything together to sue them all for the shit they did to us i still have all the photos of that house rotting away & them lying claiming it was repaired after hurricane Florence
I am not supporting lds I disagree with them but I will say crazy is crazy in any religion.
i'm sorry to here that
I’m lds, and I am in Nevada, and it really it not really much what you said.
“I will give you one of the Keys of the mysteries of the Kingdom. It is an eternal principle, that has existed with God from all eternity: That man who rises up to condemn others, finding fault with the Church, saying that they are out of the way, while he himself is righteous, then know assuredly, that that man is in the high road to apostasy; and if he does not repent, will apostatize, as God lives.
So it is true..
"3 And because my words shall hiss forth-many of the Gentiles shall say: A Bible! A Bible! We have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible."
2 Nephi 29:3
What book is this taken from?
@@starlightforever4038 The Book Of Mormon
The Book of Mormon falls in line with the Bible and covers the things left out due to translation
Joseph was a false prophet.
@@The_worst_alchamistsfalse.
Ive been Mormon my whole life. Ive hade many leadership rolls and other volunteer positions in this church. Most of what Andria says is extremely exaggerated or taken out of context.
So true. Ex Mormon here. It's atrocious.
yeah i mean you didnt know shit so seems right for you to leave the church
No its not
“I feel like causing problems”. YES GIRL😂👏🏽♥️
Not cool yk I have been apart of the church my whole life I love it and it sad to see people's hate but we still love them and we love each other we have fun We are like family 👪 ❤
@@Tu1ip_sist3r k cool, no one asked you babe 👋🏼
Go sister. I have my own experiences with Mormons. I just retired from a large police department down south and was thinking about moving to Vernal Utah. Just two days prior to this post I was in Vernal and was talking to a Mormon about how beautiful Vernal was. My mouth dropped when he stated that they didn't want my kind down there. I'm assuming he was being racist due to my Hispanic heritage or maybe he is just an asshole but I have never had an experience like that. I saw red at that point but continued to be polite. Let's just say I'm headed back to Oklahoma next month. I can't believe the big 12 let BYU into our conference.
There is a difference between LDS and Mormons Mormons don't take the church all that seriously and try to fool God so they think they can get away with anything. LDS on the other hand they take the church seriously and want to teach other people about the gospel and try thier best to be kind
Vernal is built on quicksand. My son was a police officer there, & transferred. When he placed a pencil on his table, it would roll. There are a lot of under ground springs there. You dodged a bullet, but most LDS people aren't racist, since you can see our apostles come from all corners of the earth. I'm sorry you ran into a snot, who doesn't understand God loves ALL of his children.
She is 100% . One caveat homosexuality is a sin regardless of your worldview Mormon or otherwise.
LDS member here, who what you guys call Mormon! I just wanted to say that most stuff here is true but not true at the same time! My friend from another church had came to me showing me this exclaiming about how she is spreading false information about my church! Every Sunday, we go to church. Our church lasts 2 hours. The first hour is sacrament meeting! That's when 3-4 people give talks about topics that they were given by our bishop! Before the talks, we take the sacrament. We focus on hor Jesus was resurrected, unlike most churches who focus on him dying for us! We have 2 books, The Bible and book of Mormon! The Book of Mormon is a series of prophets or just people who like had experiences like Nephi and Moroni! At the end, I believe Moroni challenges us to pray to Heavenly Father, not Jesus, about the book of Mormon. People assume that we are Mormons because of the Book of Mormon, but we are infact Latter Day saints, which are Christians! Sundays for us are rest days! Your allowed to go on nature walks and watch TV, it just depends on your household rules! Missionaries aren't going to hunt you down lol, they just simply knock on your door to spread the gospel for the gathering of Israel! We pay 10% of earnings to our church to be used to build temples and donate to charity. The founder, Joseph Smith, translated the Book of Mormon and restored the church! Also, there has never been a rule that people of color can't attend our church! Yes, Cane was cursed with black skin for commiting the first murder, but that doesn't mean all people of color are cursed. Missionaries are called to serve and spread the gospel, they don't force anything. You can leave the church whenever you like, but we aren't a cult!
"Cain was cursed with black skin for committing the first murder"..so you think black skin is a curse?
@@robertgould9641 notice how I put that doesn't mean people of color are cursed, just cane! He had a darker complexion to stand out! I absolutely love everyone, no matter their skin color, and so does my church!
I do understand where your coming from, but it is just cane, no one else!
@@Chlxe11 just to be clear I wasn't attacking you, just the words from the Book of Mormon. I realize you didn't write those words so it doesn't mean you agree with everything in the Bible or Book of Mormon. Just curious did you grow up in the church or did you become a believer later in life?
@@robertgould9641 I grew up, but I had many opportunities to leave. And dw ik you weren't attacking me! There were times where I doubted my faith, but I would just open the book of Mormon to a random page and just start reading! It would always give me a boost and I always look forward to going to church on Sundays. Everyone else has different experiences with the church, but it mostly depends on your ward.
Respect to you. 🙌🏾
- Mr. Joseph Smith, would you like some more wives?
- Bring'em young!
This comment deserves more love.
It was the 1800'sloterally everyone had a lot of wives and young wives so shut up.
Have any of you even read the FSY pamphlet? It holds all our standards. And you can NOT say a thing until you have read the Book of Mormon. What this woman said is ninety percent bull crap.
With all due respect ma'am, I may not be Mormon, but I am a born again christian myself, but The bible did not support lgbtq cuz it was said in Leviticus 18:22 and 1 Corinthians 6:9, that's not me who said that, it was God Himself,
Except it wasnt "god himself" it was a council of old geezers who got together to decide what would be included in the bible. 🙄 christianity is literally made up from stolen bits of other older religions. The bible is pretty much just choc full of cultural appropriation. Nothing of christianity is original to that religion 😒
Amen
@@baronpowers1564 Amen
Do you eat shrimp and wear mixed fabrics? The Bible condemns that. Oops you're going to hell!
Man, I have a serious question. I hope that didn’t drive you away from Christ because he always loves you.
Come to the true Christ l, Jesus needs no money and he loves you
A personal relationship is all that is required. No supporting mega corporations in the name of fake books
yal are based. (based. not biased)
I’m mahmood and muslim but i was raised in an evangelical school but now after learning more about Mormons I believe they are the best. However the girl in this video is just lost I hope she appreciates these things later
Yes tithing exists even in the Bible but by no means is it something that will get you into heaven.
I guess no one reads their Bible anymore about the Tithe. The reason why you wouldn’t tithe 10% which is in the Bible is you are lovers of money. The fact you think the church needs your money is pretty hilarious. Tithe is a test and the only Test the Bible talks about. You can’t serve money and God. Sure you don’t have to tithe but you are not putting your 100% faith in God. Paying a tithe is about you and where you heart is. There is literally hundreds of scriptures in the Bible about tithing. Those that love money will read past those verses. Personal relationships with Christ starts with your heart. Paul tells Timothy in 2 Timothy 2:3 In the last days people will be lovers of MONEY! Your excuse for not tithing is that churches don’t need my money or Jesus doesn’t need my money. First off if you have a relationship with Christ it’s not your money anyways it’s all Gods you are the manger of it. Choosing to just not obey the Bible and not tithe again what Paul tells Timothy that people will be lovers of MONEY! I didn’t see any proof in scripture where we shoudnt tithe…..
Will a man rob or defraud God? Yet you rob and defraud Me. But you say, In what way do we rob or defraud You? [You have withheld your] tithes and offerings. (Malachi 3:8 AMPC)
You are cursed with the curse, for you are robbing Me, even this whole nation. [Lev. 26:14-17.] (Malachi 3:9 AMPC)
Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. [Mal. 2:2.] (Malachi 3:10 AMPC)
Do not gather and heap up and store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust and worm consume and destroy, and where thieves break through and steal. But gather and heap up and store for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust nor worm consume and destroy, and where thieves do not break through and steal; For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matthew 6:19-21 AMPC)
Thank you for exposing these frauds. Much respect.
Where is the hard evidence?
@@ethanwilson4442
The Book of Abraham is the most debunkable part of Mormonism.
@@Charles-yf7kcwhat about the 11 witnesses, good luck with that one.
Can you please get the name of our religion righ? Its The Church or Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Also what if I started talking bad about Muslims and what they wore. I would get canceled. Think about that and be respectful of beliefs.
I’m a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (formerly known as Mormons) and I just wanted to share my testimony. I know that our Savior Jesus Christ is the only way back to heaven. Not just by knowing Him, but by obeying Him and His laws. And His greatest commandment is to love thy neighbor. We have no right to judge, we must always forgive, and must love all. My faith in Jesus Christ is firm and unwavering. And I believe the spirit of God is the best thing one can have, hear, and feel. I pray we all follow the way of the Lord and repent of ours sins and ways of the world. I pray for no empty seats in Heaven 🤍🙏🏽
Freedom of religion is also Freedom from religion.
Great testimony thanks for sharing.
Don't feel bad this didn't get that much likes or stuff people come here to hear something bad about the church and won't even finish reading anything positive about it
That was a very nice way of putting it. I am totally for tithing and following the 10 commandments and the teachings of Jesus. I do not believe we can buy our way into heaven, or work our way into heaven. Yes we give money and have faith ...we do not judge lest God will judge us for doing so. I love a man who is very LDS and I pray every day he will wake up and know Jesus is the way. He is the best man I have ever known but due to church control and teaching he never believes he is good enough. That is sad. They need to be sued for covering for abuse as well both of children and wives.
Thank you for bearing your testimony online. That shows real dedication to the church.
Cults are bad but occult can be much worse. Strike balance…
I think she’s confusing her own family’s harsh rules with actual church doctrine. We watch tv, have skirts above the knees, and tithing is, while strongly advised, they won’t kick you out if you don’t comply. This is taken out of context and mainly untrue. Oh and most of the women in my ward are working mothers, that guy was just weird.
Ya weird like the church founder and his 34 wives that he died trying to cover up whilst publicly teaching monogamy. Or maybe not that weird...
Nevermo here. AFAIK not paying a full tithing means you can't get a temple recommend. Which means you can't be at your loved ones' marriage. It's not the same as being kicked out but it's harsh anyway. Are you saying that's not true?
@@trevanon7450 Yes and should you fall ill or lose your job they will give you limited assistance if you are a full tithe payer. No matter you paid 40 years but didn't the last couple of years. I worked with a kind lady with cancer. She was still on chemo and had to work. They would only help her so long and that was limited. She had paid her tithing years and years. It was the beginning of the end of my respect for the church.
During the time of Joseph Smith the legal marrying age was 14
I'm a Mormon, and I had no idea Mormon churches on sundays wouldn't allow others to do anything else on a Sunday-
Get educated.
You're allowed to- this girl is just dumb, literally an apostle used to work out on Sundays
@@changan2942
Liar.
we just didn’t listen to that part. dad needed his sunday buffet and telenovelas after dinner.
I got chastised by the Stake President for watching television on a Sunday. He overheard me in a private conversation discussing that Sunday night's episode.
Priesthood holders have to wear white shirts and black ties
Ex member here. This is 100% true.
No?
Half of this video is either lies or misleading at best. I’m ex member as well but she’s not telling the truth.
I HATE defending this religion but I also hate peoples misleading/lying. Here are some examples of her not telling the truth.
She claims that “up until 1978, anyone other than pasty white people, could not WORSHIP or hold any position in the church.” THIS is an example of one truth and one lie. Block people couldn’t hold the Melchizedek Priesthood that is true. It is a LIE that black people couldn’t worship in the church.
Woman ARE allowed to wear pants to church. This video is from 2022. She’s lying. Women might have been “looked down upon” for wearing pants to church but they absolutely CAN wear pants to church. Female missionaries do it.
Church is NOT 3 hours long. This used to be true but it changed to two hours in 2019, 3 years before this video was uploaded. LIE.
One persons opinion on women working is not official church doctoring. She’s not lying here someone likely said it but that’s one person’s interpretation.
You CAN be gay at BYU, you cannot, however, perform same sex acts. While I don’t agree with this, it’s misleading nonetheless.
Utah is not considered “the holy land.” It’s not the Mecca like in Islam or Jerusalem etc. Some may have called it a holy land but it’s not doctrinal. this is misleading and untrue.
Then why do some people convert to Being a Latter Day Saint when they are in their 30s or 40s my brother just helped convert a family.
@@Chameleon-u4t
Foolish, that's why.
I understand that what you are going through is hard. Its not your fault. Your parents did not explain clearly to you what you needed to know at 8 years old during baptism. If what you said is true, that you didn't know what you were going into, then you are right that is your parents AND your grandparents fault. You deserved the true knowledge. In "The Covenant of Baptism: To Be in the Kingdom and of the Kingdom" by Robert D. Hales, he urges parents AND grandparents to explain clearly what baptism means for 8 year olds. He also mentioned that, when Adults get baptized, they more fully understand the covenant promises that they are making. To take the Lords name upon them, and to always remember him, and there are more. Please I encourage everyone who wants to learn more about baptism, or is struggling with it, please read what Robert D. Hales said. It changed my life. I have given up video games and other things that have taken all my time and energy. As my life is completely centered on Christ, my life has been transformed. I know that the gospel is true. Please give the Lord a change to bless you!
A truly scary Cult. So glad you got out.
Cult? How are we a cult, we do all the things other churches do just more in depth, maybe if these things weren’t so exaggerated you would understand
@@The_worst_alchamists It's okay man, don't even argue with them, just let them laugh like Lamen and Lemuel. After all the truth was never something that was easy to swallow for most people.
@@Kextral your right, no need to pay attention to those who refuse to listen, god can deal with them in the afterlife
@@The_worst_alchamists Missionaries will save all of them one day, I plan on serving as well to help them come back
@@Kextral me too, I plan on serving a mission and I hope to bring many unto Christ
All of this is true. I was never Mormon myself but I went to a Mormon church (because the people Mom and I rented from are Mormon)once and it was 3 hours long. I was 8. I never went again though. I never knew at the time it was a cult but I was very averse to it. Thankfully I was rightfully averse to it. I remember the day of the week I bought Super Mario 3d Land. It was on a Sunday. I remember specifically Mom telling me not to tell them that we went out and bought it on a Sunday. Now I didn’t have to live as a Mormon thankfully. But I saw this up close and in person for a long time. Those Mormons are still family friends and I hope and pray they come to Christ one day.
Nothing here is true. Do some good research and you will find out.
@ What are you talking about? Either you have the memory of a gold fish or you’ve been deceived. I think they were shortened to an hour and a half and it’s gotten much more relaxed. But this is how it was even 10 years ago.
@@natescorner nothing in this video is true. It doesn’t even make sense to debunk them because if you were actually a member of the LDS, you would know.
Have you considered Reverand Prophet Peter Popoff?
They say he hears the voice of God. Who strangely sounds like his wife.
Joseph Smith I'd the biggest "trust me, bro", in all of history.
If you want truth, the only way is to join and see and experience it yourself. Period
yuh
What are you talking bout?
IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH OPEN YOUR BIBLE PERIOD.
If you want the truth, don't let false prophets brainwash you.
@@ducksoon9981 fr
@@ducksoon9981 I mean we do study the bible ALOT lol
A teacher I had in high school would always be drinking a Monster energy drink, because she was Mormon and it doesn't allow coffee, apparently. I thought it was interesting, to say the least, that coffee isn't allowed, but somehow the chemical sludge that is Monster is somehow allowed? lmao
I thank GOD the FATHER & GODDESS the MOTHER, for restoring the TRUE CHURCH back on earth, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS.
With zero evidence to support any of it.
@@jeffs4483 Your comment perfectly reveal your extreme lack of knowledge, and rebelliousness, against the TRUE CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS.
@@VAATAUSILI4139
Ex Mormon here. Show me ANY evidence for ANY of it.....means it's a fraud.
@@VAATAUSILI4139
Got ANY answers to the CES Letter yet? Didn't think so.
@@jeffs4483 People like you, that are extremely lacking knowledge and rebelliousness is what JESUS CHRIST warned us Members of HIS CHURCH, the only TRUE CHURCH, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS, we should never cast pearls to Swines like you.
This is absurd, absolutely everything she just said is not true at all, ask me anything, and I will give the TRUE explanation on it. This made my mouth drop on how she made it sound
are you ok run from that stuff
God bless you!❤ eventually i will show this to my fiance who is being sucked in.
Run away
Don't marry a Mormon
Hmm sucked in huh
Okay. Before you assume that what she is saying is complete truth, have you done the research for yourself? (I'm not an LDS member. I left when I was 16 because I didn't feel that it was for me.) Read the Book of Mormon, and try to understand what it says before making a judgment call. Joseph Smith, I don't know truly much about, so I can't really say anything on him. But please do research before you assume.
Show them the Mormon Stories Podcast channel. They go much more in depth about everything and it's all bonkers.
Do they not also have an inbreeding problem?
THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINT beleived in GOD OUR HEAVENLY FATHER and i know that this is a true church and the church of GOD
YES MA'AM THIS IS MY KIND OF PERSON
people are allowed to criticize the church, especially if it as hurt them. calm down. no religion is exempt from criticism
But dosent that include atheism???
Also you have to remember, every church has been polygamist at one point in history,ours is just a little more recent
From the beginning Jesus preached marriage between one man and one woman. There are examples of polygamy in the Old Testament but this was certainly not mainstream after Christ. Mormon doctrine promoted racist and polygamist ideology that they later went back on after “new revelations.” This is absurd to me because you can’t have new revelations when politically/socially convenient.
I said something but had to delete the comments because of arguing. I don't see the point of it but I do know this. I may not want to be a mormon anymore but the remaining ones can still if they want. I'll admit she said some stuff that are just total nonsense. What I only said was that I didn't want to be pressured of not doing certain things on Sundays while I'm at my own house. That's really it.
@Keaton42 I've been out of the church for years but you sound like someone I once knew. There was a family, they were Mormons and they would offer me to do things with them. Going to sleep over at their house, camping, playing games and toys, even babysit me with respect because most other people in different houses were mean. On the sleep over part they would always pray for me before eating dinner and when I'm about to sleep. When I had parties at church I was hanging out with them. My mom recently told me that when I was 5 years old those Mormons I'm happy with during the Christmas holidays told the fake Santa to go to my house and give me presents and I had a lot. I used to be really happy because they were so nice. But then one day when I was 9 they moved to another state and I felt so sad. Going to church didn't feel the same anymore. I was miserable that they were gone. I never forget those days I've had. About me leaving though I got in trouble for saying I'm going shopping after church. I don't want to say the rest because it got worse but yeah.
I love the lds community. This church feels like my family. They are so welcoming and loving, I also have a couple gay friends in the church. Yes we can wear pants and watch tv on Sundays. And no it’s not 3 hours long
Accusatory fog. That’s all this is. I’m not swayed.
I suppose you are just not smart enough or curious enough to properly research.
*Accurate statements.
Fixed that for you.
@@haydenhodges34 imagine leaving LDS because rainbow flags are banned. thats literally against ALL religions LOL. every time I've watched one of these videos the people leaving always do it for the pettiest of reasons
To the angel Macaroni, if you are reading this....please bring back the gold plates so that Mormons will have one piece of legitimate evidence to support the Book of Mormon.
It’s not true that you are “not allowed” you have free agency and can do whatever you want and Jesus will still love you
I hope so because nobody else loves me :(
True Jesus Christ loves everyone as those who you see are people worth enough for Christ to have died for. But let’s remember that He is also just and will punish you if you do not obey Him. I’m just saying that because when you say that Jesus will love you no matter what kinda makes it sound like you can eat, drink and be merry and still live with God again when that is completely untrue of course. Jesus Christ is the way and if you don’t choose that way you will be cast out. Note that punishments help us learn and proves God’s love for us.
@@kit-riv1 Wasted energy. I gave my heart to the church as a child, the church gave me nothing in return. Save your pity for me.
@@bobleeswagger474 Also fun fact it did. You were just too impatient to wait
@@bobleeswagger474 I promise they do and will. There are millions of people. Get out and get involved in things with other people. You just need to meet the right ones.
You can leave it, but you can't leave it along.
While your missionaries go door to door harassing non members.
@@jeffs4483harassing? Do you have any proof for that? That’s a claim build on nonsense and ignorance.
@@BddJnr
Yes. Direct experience.
@@jeffs4483 that’s not proof. I have read multiple comments from you. You are making a lot of claims that are not true. So how reliable is this claim?
@@BddJnr
Strawman argument. Try again.
Some, left the CHURCH, no repent, not obey the commandments, now up w/endless excuses, lies, & up for/riches & honor.
I do, did, and always wanted to keep 100% of ALL the commandments ... I stopped attending because I grew tired of the ceaseless liies :(
@@ralphwiggam7630 GOD the Eternal FATHER, and HIS WIFE, GODDESS, our beloved HOLY Eternal MOTHER knows, your endless excuses, lies, due to your extreme rebelliousness and lack of knowledge, of the only, TRUE CHURCH, that started in the PRE-MORTAL LIFE. You left the CHURCH, and that's your agency, but you can't leave the CHURCH alone?
@@VAATAUSILI4139 Why are you here attacking people? Making deceitful, untrue straw-man arguments?
You have no "truth" to stand on, so you immediately start to make personal attackks ... I no longer attend because I am tired of all the liies ... you don't even know what you have been liied to about ...
Everything you think you know about our doctrine and history is nothing but a fabrication ... sorry ... but I doubt you are even aware ...
@@VAATAUSILI4139 I didn't find out the truth until AFTER I came home from a 2-year mission and getting married in the temple ...
Why don't we teach the truth about the fabrication that is the "Book of Abraham"? Why don't we advertise that that Joseph actually had NINE totally different, even contradictory versions of his "first vision? Why don't we admit the truth about the temple? Or that less than a month after himself becoming a 33rd Degree Mason, Joseph created our own "endowment"? Why aren't we honest about our "signs and tokens" being EXACT COPIES of masonic handshakes? Why don't we advertise that the modern "church" holds over $200 BILLION DOLLARS of stocks and bonds? Why don't we ever warn people that Joseph was a viile phedofiile, and married over 34 women, including multiple 14yhearrolldchiilldren, other men's wives, and mother-daughter sets?
You see ... I found out that I was liied to ... and stopped attending ... literally zero "siins", "excuses", or anything else ... I just don't like being liied to ... sorry ...
@@ralphwiggam7630 if you want to leave the church don't feel ashamed about it because in the church's lore after the end we will all dwell in the three kingdoms of heaven unless your a satin worshiper (nice name BTW)
Some are actually not true I'm a very active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints and through all my experience I didn't experience anything like sadness , loneliness and badness all of the other members are very nice when it's your first time going to our church the people act like you really belong there as if you have been there for like years so don't hate our religion because LDS members are very nice people ❤❤❤❤
believe me they did NOT remove your name from their church list.
Girl good on you getting out of a toxic environment. 👍
I'm an ex Mormon now my self
I was actually looking forward to studying the Mormon religion
And you should because most of the facts she spits aren’t true and she doesn’t even know the purpose to some things or what it’s actually about.
Please do because everything you learn from "ex-mos" is pretty much all wrong.
HELP.
I have someone mormon in my family, and they will get extremely mad if i mention anything about its culty behavior. Its not their fault though, they grew up with it and were fed false information.
I need some help breaking the truth subtly to them.
Please!
Who cares if they get mad?
The truth hurts
She is breathe taking BEAUTIFUL, and I would take care of her 😇
here we go again
Ex-Mormon here. This video is full of “misinformation” as people do say nowadays. I’m all about exposing the lies we’re were fed in our childhood and adolescence. That being said, I am not in favor of a minute-and-half long video of “exposing Mormonism “ with half truths. Congrats on taking the very 2023 approach of race and sexual orientation to get some likes. Too bad you literally missed the 10,000 other points of doctrinal fallacies. We’ll let someone explain that knows about it, how about that?
Do you have a video that will properly instruct non Mormons on their lies? If so thank you
name one thing that's off?
I'm very interested in hearing the follicles
Ex member here. Name one thing wrong.
Tell us more please
lol so half of these things are not church doctrine. We are allowed to wear pants to church, there’s no dress code. “Come as you are” is a quote we strongly believe in. Also women missionaries are allowed to wear dress pants. In addition to that, on Sundays, there’s no strict rule on what we have to do. Most follow the Bible, keep the sabbath day holy. However the personal families interpret that, is up to them and them alone. I go out to eat and play sports on Sundays 🤷🏻♀️, but I know many families who prefer to spend time with each other and don’t spend money on Sundays (which actually is in the Bible, not making people work on Sunday’s, so a lot of mormons don’t support people having to work on Sunday, so they won’t spend money at those places).
The church is all about AGENCY. You can do as you please. I’ve seen a lot of ex mormons complain about how they never could do anything as a mormon and how it’s a cult, but just because you grew up in a strict mormon family, does not mean that all mormons are that way or that the church tells us to be that way. The church might give recommendations , but it’s never a rule. You can always do what you want to, you have agency.
I joined the church when I was 19, so I have seen it from both sides. I have a very strong opinion on the ex mormon community and the hate we get. I can understand why some people feel hurt by people of the church. But something i’m very strong about is just because you were hurt by people of the church does not mean our doctrine is false and also doesn’t mean every mormon is bad. You have to remember the reason why you’re there, which is God. You’re not there for the members of the church. That’s why i’m strong on people needing to gain a testimony of the Book of Mormon. Because if you’re just a member because you grew up a mormon and you don’t have that personal relationship with God or that testimony of the Book of Mormon, obviously you’ll probably want to leave, because humans are humans and they might say something offensive that could you hurt you. We have to realize that the people of the church are not perfect. Same thing for even the leaders of our church. We are all human and make mistakes, and we have to remember that we are at church for God alone. The church is not perfect, only God is.
I grew up strict Baptist, and had people say things all the time that made me want to leave. I ended up leaving the church after realizing they didn’t have half the answers I was looking for, and I also had no personal relationship to God. After years of basically being non religious, I felt so empty and lost. After joining the “mormon” church, I found God again, and have strengthened my relationship with Him so much more than ever before. I am way happier than I have ever been and love the church. I’ve had things said to me by members and I don’t even have a lot of friends in the church, but I can’t deny how the temple makes me feel and how truly better my life has been since i’ve joined.
All I can say is, for those who judge mormons, seeking information from actual members and praying and asking God about our church, could really change your perspective.
This is the gospel of Christ 👉(1Cor 15:1-4). This gospel was a mystery =Ephesians 6:19/Romans 16:25,26
Nobody knew about Jesus death burial and resurrection before His death.
But
In the book of Mormon the gospel of Christ was being preached before His death, which is not true.
if you search for wrong you will find wrong. In EVERYTHING
is not that you are not allowed , you do as much as you have understand and you learn to be honest to yourself.
Coke is okay because they became the majority shareholder in Coca Cola and changed the rules.
I hate defending this church but you’re lying. They are not the majority shareholder of this company. You clearly don’t understand how “even more rich” they would be if they were the majority shareholder of this company.
Haha, so true. Can't have a simple coffee or tea, but highly sugary and caffeinated Sodas and energy drinks are perfectly normal. Makes sense.
We can't have coffee because it's addicting and we believe that we shouldn't get addicted to anything.
@@Chameleon-u4t you don’t think sugary sodas are addictive???
The way they take things out of context
Alright first off we don’t curse people or color
We didn’t allow people of color to hold position but they could worship but was a mistake that’s why its not a thing anymore.
Joseph actually had 40 wife’s some of which were 14 but polygamy is very discouraged nowadays
There’s literally no dress code so all people can come what are you talking about
You can do other things on Sunday’s it’s discoraged to buy stuff or do thing that require the service of employed people. And they don’t like it if you work on Sunday but otherwise who cars also 2 hours
Your right no coffee or tea mainly because of caffeine and coffee is more addicting then coke that’s why
That talk that guy gave suprised me but trust me one guys words aren’t the entire church’s
Yes bishops and other leader can ask you to give testimony and talks BUT YOUR ALLOWED TO SAY NO WITH NO PUNISHMENT
Banning rainbow flags doesn’t mean no gay people it’s probably about the propaganda but you can be a gay and go to byu
Yeah we do think the holy land is in Utah the Missouri thing the church doesn’t push out anymore so I think it was a honest mistake
You always have to wear certain under where. and special cloths are always required for temples
There not gonna point a gun to your head or kick you out if you don’t but it is highly encouraged
All of things the church owns and has shares in are to get more money and most of the money goes to the member of the church a lot of which is very charitable like helping men ever who can’t afford a meal they take care of there members
No they don’t it’s a just chance you live in a high missionary area also you can ask to get your records removed no quitmormon.com
Sorry for long comment
Bro are you the prophet to make all these bold claims? You don’t know that the skin color thing was a mistake. You also don’t know why we can drink coke but not coffee. Say what you know instead of telling what you feel or understand.
@@PastGens Nothing about religion is know. Since the time I wrote this comments I’ve learned a ton. I don’t think that things like that are mistakes anymore instead I think god needed them to happen to get to the circumstances the church is at today. The coke but no coffee thing your right I don’t know, but the church hasn’t told us so I’m left up to find the most logical conclusion.
Your right I’m no prophet but that doesn’t mean I can’t hold my own opinions on why we do what we do or can’t be knowledgeable enough to answer tough questions.
@@cooperrichards2434 No sorry if I sounded rude, basically my point is that you probably should have specified that this is not known doctrine. That's all.
@@PastGens that makes sense I get annoyed when people don’t do that so I’ll do better
black people only be slave if they do everything in this life. Brigham Young? Sic cult pal
Mormon Church is 2 hours long and before I left, I saw some women wear pants.
I refused to go at 12. the next week they told me the elders suggest they lock me in my closet with a bucket for my business. they got away with that for a grand total of one time. I was a lot tougher than they thought. Dont even get me going on femalely home evening. I do wish I could still have my own galaxy and planet though. Oh well my Aussie would most probably stage a take over and run the realm and he would get all the babes like always.
I know satanic luciferian lie that they come up with its Smith made out of his ass again part of making a cold as you use basic stuff in your twisted and overtime people fall for it and then you get away with making more stuff and you're mentally ill in fabricating nonsense that goes against anything it's actually basic religion or actually good sacred texts Etc. Satanists Smith was a satanic scammer and you got away with it.
I'm coming from an outsiders perspective and this is very confusing 😭 I think I should stop procrastinating on my homework cause It's getting me to weird places. All I'm gonna say is that sounds rough
You folks don’t get it. Joseph Smith really did see God the father and Jesus Christ in a simple answer to prayer. John the Baptist , Peter , James and John came too. The sealing power is again on the earth and prophets and apostles now guide His church. I KNoW this is true. All this other junk is just accusatory fog.
Any evidence that he did? Didn't think so.
Nobody's gona get it if they don't want to!! Be patient the 2nd coming will reveal the truth
Let's weigh the amount of evidence in order to make a good determination.
1) Joseph Smith did not tell anyone he had seen God the Father and Jesus Christ, and it wasn't until 1838 that he had his scribe write it down -- years after the claimed event. Assistant Church Historian Dr. James B. Allen wrote an article in 1966 saying that "none of the available contemporary writings about Joseph Smith in the 1830's, none of the publications of the Church in that decade, and no contemporary journal or correspondence yet discovered mentions the story of the first vision...."
The first time Joseph Smith told of his First Vision it was 1832 when he said it was a visitation of "the Lord" who told him his sins were forgiven. He said (and he wrote in his own handwriting) "I saw the Lord." Joseph Smith did not say he saw the Father.
Then in 1835 he dictated an account to his scribe, Warren Parrish, who wrote it in Joseph Smith's 1835-6 Diary. In this account Joseph says "A pillar of fire appeared above my head,...a personage appeared in the midst of this pillar of flame which was spread all around, and yet nothing consumed, another personage appeared, he said unto me 'thy sins are forgiven thee, he testifyed [sic] unto me that Jesus Christ is the Son of God; and I saw many angels in this vision."
Joseph did not claim these personages were the Father and the Son until 1842. Even the Deseret News did not say Joseph Smith had seen the Father and the Son. In 1852 they published the church's account of Joseph Smith First Vision, where they said Joseph had given an account of his "first Visitation of Angels, which was when I was about fourteen years old..."
It was not until Joseph Smith CHANGED his theology away from a Trinitarian viewpoint over to a belief that God and Jesus were personages of separate bodies that Joseph Smith began to claim he saw the Father and the Son. His accounts of the First Vision did not start until 1832 when he wrote down one account saying he "saw the Lord." In 1832 he still believed in the Trinity. He gradually changed his theology until 1842 when he developed the idea that God the Father and Jesus were 2 separate persons.
The story regarding Peter, James and John coming to visit was concocted much later. In fact Joseph never even gave a date, month or year when Peter, James and John supposedly visited. You'd think he would have remembered that!!!! Date unknown, is all we know. Also this newly developing theology conflicts with Joseph Smith's earlier theology. Notice Joseph Smith has a Prophet state in the Book of Mormon that the dead will not rise until the Second Coming (Alma 40:2). So how could the resurrected Peter, James, and John have physically appeared to Joseph Smith? These glitches (and there are many more) are evidence that Joseph Smith concocted these stories, just as he concocted the Golden Plates, and the story of Moroni, who in the earliest accounts is named as being "The Prophet Nephi."
And you KNOW this is true? How? Because you have a "feeling." The followers of Jim Jones (People's Temple) *also had a strong witness from God* that Jim Jones was God's spokesman. And they were willing to die for this testimony! And they did die for it.
Are you claiming that YOUR testimony is the only valid one, and everyone else who has a witness about a faith that conflicts with yours is incorrect? Of course that is your claim. The *Followers of Heaven's Gate all testified of the Truthfulness* and warm witness from God they had of their faith.
FEELINGS are NOT TRUTH. The Truth is found by having EVIDENCE to back it up. There is NONE for Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. WAKE UP before it is too late!
He was high on psychedelics what do you expect?🤣
Everyone believes families will be together except Mormons. They believe families can be separated forever unless they do secret handshakes.
With all the list of bad things, they have one good thing they dont allow gay.
Why they need to expand gay would do a disservice to the mormon expansion 😅
You keep believing that..all the undercover gay bishops. You'll be surprised.
Plenty of gay missionaries .
Holy land is in Utah? Now that's bs.
Bro this is wild I am morman some of my best friends are black I play video games on Sunday for at least 3 hours I love soda my sister gose to church all of time with pants my church has also said he thinks it is wonderful that we are evolving in the community it bring up women. One think is true and it is that we don’t really support lgbtq 🏳️🌈 community but so don’t all christians and it is not really banned just not supported like my sister that still gose to the church even though she is gay and she loves the church and the outfits is completely false and I have NEVER hear of it btw I am married and you and not required to give 10% it is optional and your not supposed to give any money like allowance if is like an option tax and if you are wondering why would I want to give tithing it gose to people in our ward btw ever year ever church spends thousands of dollars on homeless people and we give it around this money coming from our opinion tithing so tithing is more of a donation and we believe that ANYONE can get into heaven as we do baptisms for the dead for people that never got baptized here on earth and you can expect it if you want or you can not except it and live with satin and with the 100 billion is completely off our leader is not even a millionaire and we use about 80% of the tithing for less fortunate people the other 20% is for water bill and building more churches and yes they try once to bring you back but if you say no then they will forever leave you alone
fun if blacky was lds in utah name one Provo Stake President
Exactly!
See what happens if you become an interracial couple with someone who is black. Then come back to the comments! 😮
@@alexisvalere4095 bro don’t asume a whole religion is racist. We aren’t racist, one of our key doctrines mastery scriptures says
“Inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female, and he remembereth the heathen and all are alike unto god”
-2 nephi 27 :33
Like broskie, and even then we have common human morals on not being racist.
@@alexisvalere4095 true dat
I do not know if these are true or not, but I do know that Mormonism is wrong. I do know the Book of Mormon is false, but we can’t spread hate.
Let me tell you that Jesus Christ loves you. I encourage you to read the Bible from time to time.
I pray you find Jesus in the end.
Jesus loves you.
Ex member here. She is 100% correct.
It’s funny because this is absolutely false. It’s completely ok to not believe, but all of her points are completely wrong
@@jeffs4483 I've never heard a single person talk about not watching tv on sunday. I watch tv on sunday frequently
@@Brutici
It's quite common to forbid watching tv on Sundays within the LDS.
@@jeffs4483 i've been in 3 different wards and never heard of it. Quick question: do you have personal experience with being forbid watching tv on sundays in your ward or do you only think this from stories of others?
I’m no longer a member. But, not all of these things are accurate.
That’s all. ❤
I posted a longer response that shows how many things she’s either lying or misleading people about. Not a fan of this church but telling those who don’t know anything as if these are all facts is wrong. Some truths but half of this video is untrue.
Yes they are not like most of the other "exposing" videos
Name one.
@@jeffs4483 please read several of my comments on other posts for this video cause I’m not watching it again but I’ll say one easy one. She says that church is 3 hours long, it used to be but the changes it to 2 hours, 2 years before she posted this video. Not a huge falsehood but untrue nonetheless. Some others were much more egregious misinformation
@@jeffs4483 That you have to pay to get into heaven. As a Mormon I can say what we believe is that there are three heavens for three different groups of people people will be equally as happy in each one of them and the only way to not go into one is to be a satin worshiper.
That is crazy 😮 1:22
So many inacurasies.
Name one.
Church is not three hours long, the Book doesn't say people of color are cursed, women can wear pants... that's three.
@@eldastu9387
Used to be 3 hours long not that long ago. Bad memory?
@@eldastu9387
Yes it does say they are cursed with dark skin. Might want to read it again.
@@eldastu9387
Women who wear pants to church will be asked to not to do it again. That is a fact.
i also was yelled at for trying to drink greentea until i talked with the bishop much stuff is messed up from religion but jesus is real and amazing!!!! they stopped hunting people down at least in oregon who want to leave and they made church much shorter i guess but i loved being baptized but they go against scriptures by pressuring 8 year olds to do it because it says dont do it unless a man is ready to die for the gospel and has good understanding right in the scriptures they believe in or say they do and then they pressure 8 year olds into it strange or at least some did
tea? controls food???? Thats cult
i found out it wasnt one of their beleifs but my dad was confused but then there are certain mormons who are more extreme then others its all crazy @@racoonbreath
@@adorability7 Steven Hassan formost authority on cult has bite model. Behavior,information,thought,emotional controls. Dress,tone of voice,food,time,money,newname? All points to cult
@@adorability7 called word wisdom no hot beverages and only meat in times of need. Truth no coffee,tea,coke products. Brainwashed pick choose then say its caffine. No its cult lol
Ya that church ain’t guided by the true god
I was attracted to the LDS Church due to people talking bad about it just like this. Thanks! :)
Nah you are probably into the fact that joseph Smith married a little 14 year old child i will bet Mormon.
No one cares
Yea Marcus, and why should believe you again? Mormons lie all the time.
@@dannyboy7299I do!
That’s so great to hear. Stories of people who convert to LDS because of negative misinformation posted on social media are the best. Glad to have you.
Is it not weird to anyone when your faith evolves to meet current societal norms even though their God is incapable of making mistakes?
Good example of this is the relationship with people of color and the Mormon church. Like, really? Mormom Jesus just decided one day in 1978 that this isn't ok anymore?
Funny how the Mormon robots won't touch this comment but are trying to troll me on others with vague retorts and bullshit religious text references.
I'm not your problems Mormon's, you guys walking around and trying to convince each other "this is the true church, I know because I've gone to a few different Christian churches and 0 Jewish, Muslim, insert any other religion here church, I KNOW THIS IS THE TRUE CHURCH!"
I love when Mormons don't know their own damn history and yet come on public message boards to defend their faith. Makes me feel so damn good, I know its petty, but I despise how condescending and holier than thou they have become as a faith.
Ok, as a current latter-day saint and someone who likes to learn about history of the church I will try to explain some of the issues you seem very concerned about. Yes, it’s true that people of color, more specifically black and African American members weren’t allowed to receive leadership roles (some of which I can’t really explain because it’d take too long) in the past. Even though it is said to be a command from our Heavenly Father or God, I believe (and other members too) that this was done by leaders to adhere to beliefs from those times when segregation and racism was sadly very common. Maybe they were just personal beliefs, you know how people can be, even if they are called by God to lead and preach. And we see that happening in scripture too. Anyways, that can be the case now too. We see leaders changing “rules” or more often recommendations really, to be more adapted to these times. Yes, it can be odd even for members, but at the end of the day it is the individuals that decide what to do and not. Yes we are told to listen to our leaders and prophets, but you also need to learn to identify what is to be done and not according to what you have learned (hopefully) from scriptures etc. Also, it really is about “feeling” which church you believe is the real one out of the millions out there, and actually, there are resources for members and non members if you’d like to learn about religions like Islam. I could find you some links if you’d like. Besides, leaders of different churches and our church meet in conferences and other types of meetings to learn about each others differences and similarities and help people around the globe regardless of religious beliefs. The point is to LOVE ONE ANOTHER and live a rightful life that you can benefit from. Again, I could find some resources if you’d like to learn more, I apologize for not being able to give you detailed information. Overall, just believe in what you want to, we believe that you are here on earth to learn and make your own decisions as you see best fit. I believe in the church because yes, it makes me feel good and I’ve received so much from God and members alike. I’m glad to be a member and I hope that you guys don’t waste your time if you really don’t want to but just try out different things and religions. There’s something for everyone out there. Thank you for reading all of that if you did. I hope to have explained well as English isn’t my first language. Take care
What would Jesus have done in this situation because he loves all and does not hate on anyone, John 8:7 “So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”
Are we being true to The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost
i’ll bet you are sorely missed
They miss her tithing checks and free labor.
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