@@discbrakefanummm really just try not to get dropped from the group rides I join in on….. and if I do get dropped, it’s not my fault it’s a mechanical 😂
Could this become a semi-annual show? One of the best Nero Shows to date. Imagine a conversation in 6 months as a "check in". Would love to watch more.
Damn that is a awesome show…really love it. Also wanna give a compliement for cutting the podcast, no like cross talking nice audio just fucking great.❤🎉
This is the best thing ever happened to cycling youtube since the podcast, lantern rouge and some other notable, but not noted appearances. Please, make it at least quarterly. Or at least year end special. You guys rock!
A LOT of cycling knowledge in the house!!! VC shows me how to be a Good Human. NorCal shows me strategy. Dylan shows me the science. The Nero Show literally discusses everything a group of cyclists would discuss.
Hello! I’m an MD/MPH. First of all, you guys are awesome. Second, here’s some unsolicited advice/points; Careful w iron, every supplementation/ medication has side effects. Iron is extremely constipating and will change stool consistency and color. Also, evidence based add on to increase iron absorption is vitamin C. You can get both over the counter and the iron that is more easily absorbed is ferrous sulfate. In men, very low levels need to be worked up and could be related to GI issues or Bone marrow abnormalities. Other point; altitude camps. It takes approximately 3 months for the nephrons in your kidneys to adapt to altitude, afterwards they become optimal and produce more Epo etc. What happens is after the adaptation, if you take that blood and save it and then later go back to sea level and inject it ,technically it’s your own blood, but it’s “optimized”. Alright, keep up the good work.
Dylan warned about supplementing iron in his video as well. The conclusion was to get tested if you think it might be an issue and only supplement if advised to do so.
Routine iron checks are not recommended, especially for men. Only time to get “tested” is if you are having symptoms, and you’ll know if you are. If you are iron deficient, you are most likely anemic as well and those are the symptoms we are looking for. Things like pale conjuctiva, hairloss, changes in skin color, etc. Low iron in men is not typical and needs to be worked up thoroughly. The real question is what is the cause of the low iron and not the low level itself. Hope it makes sense.
@@edwinot a simple iron test (not ferritin) is done every time you donate blood which can be as frequent as every 2 months. not a big deal. nothing to do with hair loss. all you need to do is sweat like crazy over many months and you soon find trouble recovering or doing simple interval training.
@@HairyPantaloons not a big deal to supplement unless you have a genetic disposition for iron retention. my doctor recommended 300mg of ferrous sulphate 3x a day. i asked if one a day would suffice and the doctor said, if you want the recovery to take 3x as long. within 2 weeks i could notice the change and was almost back to normal.
@@carlosgaspar8447 Free iron levels are clinically useless. My friend I look at labs daily for a living. To assess accurate iron levels you need at least:HGB(Hemoglobin),MCV,Ferritin,TIBC and RDW. Those are just a few. A truly useful iron panel is expensive, which is not what you get when you donate blood. Also what I said is that the most common cause of iron deficiency in men is microcytic anemia. If you have significantly low iron levels you’ll have symptoms and one of them is called“telogen effluvium” which does cause hair loss. Hope it helps.
Chris, I’d like to encourage you with your content. I’m an old HUBBARD who loves to ride as often as I can. This video was awesome, the guests are all guys I’ve occasionally watched on TH-cam, but getting them all together was super interesting and I for one, really enjoyed it. Please keep it going, love your work!
VC hit the nail on the head with the name call out. The “Gravel” guys that talked about the spirit of gravel are the same ones now that are moping after the results they get at Lifetime GP.
The "spirit of gravel" people aren't sponsored racers lining up front pack. They're the grassroots people who were fucking off with friends before anyone gave a shit.
VC 2 min into the podcast: Hey, I changed my channel name, really don't want to emphasize the vegan part that much anymore everyone else: proceeds to just call him Vegan as if it was his first name old habits are hard to break I guess 😅
1:18:16 😂😂😂 I love Jesse 1:23:21 there's this German magazine called Tour Magazin that does frame aero tests, although I'm highly questioning applicability of their results in the real world given their methodology.
I follow all of you religiously and I can relate to the feeling of working your heart out and coming in the top 20, even with the best lifetime fitness. I work hard in the gym and on the road and follow a good diet to participate in 4 or 5 Fondos each year. My goal is finishing and not being the "lanterne rouge". I'm 73 and remember when I really could ride. Clip pedals, steel frame, tubular, wool shorts and all. Folks tell me I'm doing great just for finishing 100 miles, yet inside I can't get used to not keeping up with the lead group. Listen to an old guy. YOU GUYS ARE KILLING IT!
Hands down best podcast you guys have put on... Watch you every week and you're just getting better and better. Fantastic format and intention to making sure people aren't talking over each other. Awesome!
Amazing show. One of the best ones. Really great job guys, bringing this new format to TH-cam and the cycling world. Great guests!! Keep up the good work !!
Great show. Love the topics, the flow between speakers was good. The video feed was good. Took me a bit of time to watch/listen to it all since i was consuming it while on the trainer. Love all those creaters already :). Congrats Jesse with the baby.
One of the easiest way to track your iron level is to donate blood regularly. I go 4 times a year and I get a free haemoglobin test every time. They don't let you donate if the haemoglobin levels are too low. Measurements of Ferritin can be tricky. If you have an infection or some inflammatory thing happening in your body (an elevated CRP - C Reactive Protein), the body can lock up iron in Ferritin so the iron level appears to be high, but the body cannot use it.
That is how I found out about my low iron levels. However, giving away red blood cells hinders performance the same way as having low iron. It takes the body around three weeks to replenish red blood cells after donation.
I’ve been wanting this kind of presentation for a few years now. Thanks for getting these guys together. Love to see more panels including other presenters and topics.
chris and jesse this format is genius! closest thing avaliable to it is the ocasionally joe rogan podcast !!! also love how tyler basically asked all the questions for you chris hes great hey
Jeff, cool to hear you are putting together a build for the Winspace (I assume T1550). I am in the process of putting together the Winspace SLC 2.0 with Dura Ace, 9Velo 35mm wheels, bottom bracket and stem from Omniracer. I find the 9velo wheels to be very stiff. Looking forward to your review.
Great episode. Can't wait for Norcal's Winspace content. Dylan Johnson is probably worth about 20% of the Grand Prix series exposure (he's the only reason I care about it). And I just started watching VC because of his interviews with the Nero show.
VC aka JEDI COWBOY- you left your light saber on an it's burning a hole in your 10 gallon hat. Dylan - your Luna bars are expired, throw them out, they are messing with your iron levels. Jeff- your empty frame sitting up on your wall is lonely and jealous of your Winspace. Time to turn it into your 2024 dream bike, but not VCs dream Felt. Jesse- you need to adjust the temp on your house thermostat, your plant is dying. Maybe give it some water. Chris- you forgot to put your bibs away, they are hanging on the wall behind you, just an observation. But really tho, love you guys, loved the discussion during my Z2 ride. Keep smashing it and keep the content coming. Thanks!!!!
Good chat! You should to this again in a couple of months or make it a end of the year thing. Looking forward to Jeff's videos on the Winspace and tire width one
This episode needs a ribbon in the screenshot because it felt like Christmas getting most of my top TH-camrs in one place. Great year content wise to all involved, keep them coming and we will be here to watch #filmitandtheywillcome 😂
This is great content, thanks for breaking down the doping fourth wall. Tyler @TheVCAdventures is talking truth - Masters scene is rife with junk! It has been for 25 years on the track side. I may return this year to Masters Nationals but a natty 1500 watts peak/750 30 seconds won't be enough to win the 500m.
So, the length on this was a bit intimidating when I first started the video but, I thought it was all great! Interesting topics, interesting people with interesting perspectives.... Cheers!
Great interview! Regarding aerodynamics, frontal area isn’t everything, the ‘firm drag’ meaning the shape the obstacle presented to the wind is just as important….
This is the pointy end of the race for cycling content in the world. I get so much from watching all of these content creators. They are the best at what they do and their authenticity shines through. I wish absolute ❤on these creators and only hope that they are compensated much more than they already receive. Much, Much, more. This is world class. And add Mitch Boyer to this list. Thank you creators.
FINALLY got around to watching this and was everything I expected it to be. Love the format and the conversations that I can relate to first hand. Thank you guys!
Tour magazine is doing aero and stiffness testing of bikes since forever. One might argue about their protocol, but the fact is that their database is the best and most diverse out there.
Agree about 24h Worlds Competition is always stiff. Pacing but also hydration and nutrition are key as well as experience... It's also race of eating. But when the Danish racer put and incredible pace in the beginning and was ahead of Phillip Kider , Stanko and Marko , it push all chasers to the limit. In my opinion the high pace blew up quite a few people. I feel like some could have done better with a different pace instead of trying to keep up. It's non drafting and it's long so you can't expect to feel always as good as the others for the entire 24h. But those with great pacing ( your own pace that you can sustain ) did better and even made up time after flat tires or other problems. Takes a while to figure Ultras. Fitness and fancy bike alone is never a guarantee for success. I know Tyler is even more motivated and everyone has lots of respect for him. Doing ultras is tough. Nice pod , cheers Boyz
Cycling TH-cam Avengers Assemble 🎯
IF Durian Rider WOULD have been invited , it would have been like .... having South park's Cartman (on NASCAR episode). hahaha
Nah .. a bunch of narcissists.
@@philipsimmonds1103 why you here then? No one wants you here
@@philipsimmonds1103 Takes one to know one😉
This format is pure gold. Different personalities united by a mutual love for cycling. Please keep doing this.
AGREED, this needs to be a recurring panel. Like every couple months or so.
👍 👍
Could not agree more!!❤
I’m kind of offended I wasn’t asked what my race plans are for next year :(
😂
No question about it. But there is no chance they could improve the show next time without you. ;)
I'd settle for some air in tires of that Benz
Well now’s your chance! What are your plans??
@@discbrakefanummm really just try not to get dropped from the group rides I join in on….. and if I do get dropped, it’s not my fault it’s a mechanical 😂
Could this become a semi-annual show? One of the best Nero Shows to date. Imagine a conversation in 6 months as a "check in". Would love to watch more.
We had a ball doing it, so we’ll make sure to do another one … maybe as the US season ramps up (or after Tyler’s first skydive 😊)
100% this!
Would also love another checkin. Best Nero show I’ve seen 🎉
Damn that is a awesome show…really love it. Also wanna give a compliement for cutting the podcast, no like cross talking nice audio just fucking great.❤🎉
Bring back PT and GCperformance
My entire collection of inspiring cyclists on 1 screen..smashed it out the park with this one. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is just amazing. I could listen to this guys talk about bikes and training all day, every day. Thanks for amazing content.
This is the best thing ever happened to cycling youtube since the podcast, lantern rouge and some other notable, but not noted appearances. Please, make it at least quarterly. Or at least year end special. You guys rock!
Holy crap this level of content should be behind a pay wall haha
dont make them even think about it :D
@@raphaeltiziani7476 hahaha
Did you not get the mandatory 5 unskippable adds??
A LOT of cycling knowledge in the house!!!
VC shows me how to be a Good Human.
NorCal shows me strategy.
Dylan shows me the science.
The Nero Show literally discusses everything a group of cyclists would discuss.
Great episode. I love that Jeff films in his garage, yet has the most beautiful lighting, colour saturation, and film quality.
Hello! I’m an MD/MPH. First of all, you guys are awesome. Second, here’s some unsolicited advice/points; Careful w iron, every supplementation/ medication has side effects. Iron is extremely constipating and will change stool consistency and color. Also, evidence based add on to increase iron absorption is vitamin C. You can get both over the counter and the iron that is more easily absorbed is ferrous sulfate. In men, very low levels need to be worked up and could be related to GI issues or Bone marrow abnormalities.
Other point; altitude camps. It takes approximately 3 months for the nephrons in your kidneys to adapt to altitude, afterwards they become optimal and produce more Epo etc. What happens is after the adaptation, if you take that blood and save it and then later go back to sea level and inject it ,technically it’s your own blood, but it’s “optimized”. Alright, keep up the good work.
Dylan warned about supplementing iron in his video as well. The conclusion was to get tested if you think it might be an issue and only supplement if advised to do so.
Routine iron checks are not recommended, especially for men. Only time to get “tested” is if you are having symptoms, and you’ll know if you are. If you are iron deficient, you are most likely anemic as well and those are the symptoms we are looking for. Things like pale conjuctiva, hairloss, changes in skin color, etc.
Low iron in men is not typical and needs to be worked up thoroughly. The real question is what is the cause of the low iron and not the low level itself.
Hope it makes sense.
@@edwinot a simple iron test (not ferritin) is done every time you donate blood which can be as frequent as every 2 months. not a big deal. nothing to do with hair loss. all you need to do is sweat like crazy over many months and you soon find trouble recovering or doing simple interval training.
@@HairyPantaloons not a big deal to supplement unless you have a genetic disposition for iron retention. my doctor recommended 300mg of ferrous sulphate 3x a day. i asked if one a day would suffice and the doctor said, if you want the recovery to take 3x as long. within 2 weeks i could notice the change and was almost back to normal.
@@carlosgaspar8447
Free iron levels are clinically useless. My friend I look at labs daily for a living. To assess accurate iron levels you need at least:HGB(Hemoglobin),MCV,Ferritin,TIBC and RDW. Those are just a few. A truly useful iron panel is expensive, which is not what you get when you donate blood.
Also what I said is that the most common cause of iron deficiency in men is microcytic anemia. If you have significantly low iron levels you’ll have symptoms and one of them is called“telogen effluvium” which does cause hair loss. Hope it helps.
Chris, I’d like to encourage you with your content. I’m an old HUBBARD who loves to ride as often as I can. This video was awesome, the guests are all guys I’ve occasionally watched on TH-cam, but getting them all together was super interesting and I for one, really enjoyed it. Please keep it going, love your work!
Thanks for that mate!
VC hit the nail on the head with the name call out. The “Gravel” guys that talked about the spirit of gravel are the same ones now that are moping after the results they get at Lifetime GP.
The "spirit of gravel" people aren't sponsored racers lining up front pack. They're the grassroots people who were fucking off with friends before anyone gave a shit.
This was probably one of my favorite shows. I’m in the US and love the cross world perspectives on cycling chat.
This needs to be an annual or regular show. Absolutely class from start to finish
Special edition Nero show with 3 banger guests. Christmas comes early!
Great job to all of you and thank you for debunking the elitist road cycling stereotype. These group chats would be great on a recurring basis.
Props to you guys for waiting your turn whilst talking. The conversation was unexpectedly smooth! Great pod
Thanks guys, great stuff this year.
Oh my god it’s happening!!! Talking about your favorite hikes from 2024!! Shoot you guys are really ahead of the curve!!
VC 2 min into the podcast: Hey, I changed my channel name, really don't want to emphasize the vegan part that much anymore
everyone else: proceeds to just call him Vegan as if it was his first name
old habits are hard to break I guess 😅
Content creator Dream Team!! Thanks for pulling this amazing gang together AND not using the f-word (“fr*th”) until 1:25 in!!😂😂
This is A+ purist content. This has to be monthly. Never clicked on a video so fast.
1:18:16 😂😂😂 I love Jesse
1:23:21 there's this German magazine called Tour Magazin that does frame aero tests, although I'm highly questioning applicability of their results in the real world given their methodology.
Coming from Germany, there is the Tour magazine, who put most of the hot road bikes in a windtunnel to generate some comprehensive data :)
Nice one brothers, thanks for making my Saturday afternoon more enjoyable - once I’m locked inside from a femur fracture 😅
Cheers!
This is awesome thanks for assembling this squad of cycling TH-cam gurus!
offseason gold - chapeau for getting all these cycling creators on one call/show. Love all the perspectives and experiences being shared here.
I follow all of you religiously and I can relate to the feeling of working your heart out and coming in the top 20, even with the best lifetime fitness. I work hard in the gym and on the road and follow a good diet to participate in 4 or 5 Fondos each year. My goal is finishing and not being the "lanterne rouge". I'm 73 and remember when I really could ride. Clip pedals, steel frame, tubular, wool shorts and all. Folks tell me I'm doing great just for finishing 100 miles, yet inside I can't get used to not keeping up with the lead group. Listen to an old guy. YOU GUYS ARE KILLING IT!
Fantastic episode with an all-star cast. The perfect holiday special 🎉
Hands down best podcast you guys have put on... Watch you every week and you're just getting better and better. Fantastic format and intention to making sure people aren't talking over each other. Awesome!
Wow I loved this. What a perfect panel of guest! Thanks for putting this together for us to enjoy!
Amazing show. One of the best ones. Really great job guys, bringing this new format to TH-cam and the cycling world. Great guests!! Keep up the good work !!
Glad you enjoyed it!
loved it! Worth repeating at the end of 2024
Great show.
Love the topics, the flow between speakers was good.
The video feed was good.
Took me a bit of time to watch/listen to it all since i was consuming it while on the trainer.
Love all those creaters already :).
Congrats Jesse with the baby.
I absolutely LOVED that show! Please do it again... like twice a year or something 😀🤘❤️
This is the best thing on TH-cam love the podcast!
Really good show guys! Thanks for all the work I’m sure it took to coordinate and produce this!
Such a good video chaps. Already looking forward to the next time you get the gang back together!
What an episode. It's like you've taken 2hrs from each of the best cycling channels into 1 single vid.
Thank you for spending the time on a longer episode. 1.5 to 2 hours is perfect to cover the whole training session
👏
Along with absolutely loving the content, I just want to add a shout out for the editing & production - nicely done. Made a great show even better.
One of the easiest way to track your iron level is to donate blood regularly. I go 4 times a year and I get a free haemoglobin test every time. They don't let you donate if the haemoglobin levels are too low. Measurements of Ferritin can be tricky. If you have an infection or some inflammatory thing happening in your body (an elevated CRP - C Reactive Protein), the body can lock up iron in Ferritin so the iron level appears to be high, but the body cannot use it.
That is how I found out about my low iron levels. However, giving away red blood cells hinders performance the same way as having low iron. It takes the body around three weeks to replenish red blood cells after donation.
Oh god I couldn't even wait for my turbo ride to listen. This gonna be lit
I’ve been wanting this kind of presentation for a few years now. Thanks for getting these guys together.
Love to see more panels including other presenters and topics.
this was a great group discussion - please more!
chris and jesse this format is genius! closest thing avaliable to it is the ocasionally joe rogan podcast !!! also love how tyler basically asked all the questions for you chris hes great hey
Great job on the video guys!! Always enjoy it!!
Jeff, cool to hear you are putting together a build for the Winspace (I assume T1550).
I am in the process of putting together the Winspace SLC 2.0 with Dura Ace, 9Velo 35mm wheels, bottom bracket and stem from Omniracer.
I find the 9velo wheels to be very stiff.
Looking forward to your review.
What a great episode! It was a pleasure listening to you guys!
1:33:28 Jeff’s joke was so under appreciated.
This was a really good listen, love the collab.
Great conversation. Thank to all.
Brilliant listen guys, thanks all, and all the best for next year 👍
Thanks for listening
all of my favorites in one video, amazing format and can't wait for the next episode to come out with all of y'all!
Glad to hear it!
Great episode. Can't wait for Norcal's Winspace content. Dylan Johnson is probably worth about 20% of the Grand Prix series exposure (he's the only reason I care about it). And I just started watching VC because of his interviews with the Nero show.
Amazing idea. Amazing video!! Thanks everyone.
VC aka JEDI COWBOY- you left your light saber on an it's burning a hole in your 10 gallon hat.
Dylan - your Luna bars are expired, throw them out, they are messing with your iron levels.
Jeff- your empty frame sitting up on your wall is lonely and jealous of your Winspace. Time to turn it into your 2024 dream bike, but not VCs dream Felt.
Jesse- you need to adjust the temp on your house thermostat, your plant is dying. Maybe give it some water.
Chris- you forgot to put your bibs away, they are hanging on the wall behind you, just an observation.
But really tho, love you guys, loved the discussion during my Z2 ride. Keep smashing it and keep the content coming.
Thanks!!!!
Good chat! You should to this again in a couple of months or make it a end of the year thing. Looking forward to Jeff's videos on the Winspace and tire width one
Deal!
Top chats, well done on putting this together 🎉
Wow. Can’t wait for more like this next year. I followed all of you.
Saturday bonus episode! I love that Jeff said you can walk into GCN and get a supplement. He’s a true cyclist through and through.
GNC* my mind was on bikes what can I say 😅
@@NorCalCycling I know, I know- wasn’t meant to be a dig by any means. Great insight on this one 👌🏻
This was so funny! Brits might know about GNC!
@@stuartmisfeldt3068 for sure. I spent years in the supplement world and knew exactly what he meant when he said it. Such a great episode.
Great stuff guys!!!! Really enjoyed that... Hopefully you all get together again soon 💪
This was awesome guys. Great to see the big round table discussion.
These guys are great, awesome content.
Please do more of these!
Absolutely brilliant, informative, entertaining and genuine responses. You guys knocked that right out of the park. 👍
Congrats all on another fab episode and special congratulations to Jesse and partner for becoming parents. 🎉
This episode needs a ribbon in the screenshot because it felt like Christmas getting most of my top TH-camrs in one place. Great year content wise to all involved, keep them coming and we will be here to watch #filmitandtheywillcome 😂
Great show!!!! These are awesome guys that do a great job playing off each other and you two!
Thanks so much!
This is great content, thanks for breaking down the doping fourth wall. Tyler @TheVCAdventures is talking truth - Masters scene is rife with junk! It has been for 25 years on the track side. I may return this year to Masters Nationals but a natty 1500 watts peak/750 30 seconds won't be enough to win the 500m.
This is just what i needed on a rainy saturday morning ride in my garage
This format is so good, keep it up Nero crew. Would love to see this cast again, or could even get a different crew (eg tech chat with GC, Edwin, etc)
That would be cool!
1:18:20 Jesse Coyle “Oh FFS” comic exasperation nailed
Tyler: my setup was sooooo slow
Also Tyler: I use Q rings , IRC tyres, SRAM drive train with the the 1x - 50-50...
But I looked aero 😂
So, the length on this was a bit intimidating when I first started the video but, I thought it was all great! Interesting topics, interesting people with interesting perspectives.... Cheers!
This was a great episode! Felt like everyone had great chemistry
Thanks! Look forward to more great content!
Thanks for watching!
Loved it!!! Keep up the great work.
Great interview!
Regarding aerodynamics, frontal area isn’t everything, the ‘firm drag’ meaning the shape the obstacle presented to the wind is just as important….
This is the pointy end of the race for cycling content in the world. I get so much from watching all of these content creators. They are the best at what they do and their authenticity shines through. I wish absolute ❤on these creators and only hope that they are compensated much more than they already receive. Much, Much, more. This is world class. And add Mitch Boyer to this list. Thank you creators.
That was a bloody rippa! Thanks lads ❤
What a fantastic round table, really enjoyable!
Glad you like it!
awesome interview with all the guys i want to hear from. thank you for the amazing content, as always!
FINALLY got around to watching this and was everything I expected it to be. Love the format and the conversations that I can relate to first hand. Thank you guys!
Great episode, a collection of some of my favourite content creators. Looking forward to every thing you all produce in 24.
Tyler is a good dude! Tyler if you are reading this, I have been watching your videos since your first one. Love your content bro! Keep at it!
Big fan of this format, well played gents.
Tour magazine is doing aero and stiffness testing of bikes since forever. One might argue about their protocol, but the fact is that their database is the best and most diverse out there.
Amazing episode btw ❤❤
Agree about 24h Worlds
Competition is always stiff. Pacing but also hydration and nutrition are key as well as experience... It's also race of eating. But when the Danish racer put and incredible pace in the beginning and was ahead of Phillip Kider , Stanko and Marko , it push all chasers to the limit. In my opinion the high pace blew up quite a few people. I feel like some could have done better with a different pace instead of trying to keep up. It's non drafting and it's long so you can't expect to feel always as good as the others for the entire 24h. But those with great pacing ( your own pace that you can sustain ) did better and even made up time after flat tires or other problems. Takes a while to figure Ultras. Fitness and fancy bike alone is never a guarantee for success. I know Tyler is even more motivated and everyone has lots of respect for him. Doing ultras is tough. Nice pod , cheers Boyz
Absolute brilliant podcast boys, without a doubt best one so far. Please do this again in the new year... 🙏
Nice guys. Enjoyed it!
The best episode ever. All the cycling goats. Definitely need to do this again
Thank you for this podcasts. This stuff is golden!
this wAS amazung 10/10 lets make this into a series boys
OMG... this gonna be epic!
I loved the round table type of podcast! You guys should definitely do it at least once or twice a year.
Great discussion. I hope you guys find time to do it again soon.
Quality content. A few hours well spent on a Saturday morning.
Glad you enjoyed it
Your best one yet. Great content and chat.
Great convos, this should run quarterly 😊