Led by under trained, under vetted, underPAID people not fit for the job. I hold the company that hired these adult children FULLY responsible and so should you! If you hire a farmer to fly a commercial jet and pay them minimum wage, you will get exactly what you paid for!!!
When I lived on Oahu, I was at Sandys Beach, and happen to see a lady get pulled out, she was a tourist and couldn't get on her feet and the next swell was coming in like a freight train. *I ran to her, took an arm and said you gotta get up & NOW, were gonna run ( all the while knowing that wave is gonna bring us up to shore on our bellies all huli huli like ) I held her so tight for that impact, rode the wave in and never letting go, and once at the highest part of sand, said the same thing: Get up now and run once more, you did great! *glad to be in the right place, without hesitation and know the beach well. The coastline of Hawaii is an ever changing place, the water is strong and alluring. Even if the locals are playing, visitors should remain hyper-vigilant.
Sandy’s is one of those places that looks deceptive. From the sand it doesn’t look that bad, but when you’re in the water the ocean immediately let’s you know who’s the boss. I’ve seen more ambulances there than any other beaches combined… I’ve seen numerous head injuries, broken bones, countless near drownings, and even a flipped knee cap (didn’t even know that could happen)…people underestimate it every day. That was kind of you to help, a lot of people don’t because they’re scared and because tourists especially don’t realize they’re in danger until it’s too late.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom Thank you for such kind words, and words of wisdowm. I never knew a knee cap could flip, that sand drop is steep at times, ooof! I was a hyper vigilant watching her not look at ocean, and I'm glad I didn't hesitate. I was glad she performed the task I gave her :) phew.
I live in Hawaii. People die here all the time due to the lack of public information about the dangers that are here. There needs to be a safety video on every flight to every island. The fact that there is not is despicable.
@Michel Rood Hawaiian* and everyone in Hawaii lol yes tourist should really have a knowledgeable safety oriented guide if they are going to somewhere other than a developed tourist destination. However during the previous eruption people were going out to the lava by the hundreds every night and for the vast majority it was done safely. I don't know anyone under the age of 50 from Hawaii that didn't go see the lava lol
@The Black Rainbow that's good! As someone who moved to the big island 15 years ago, the place is full of dangers that people not from Hawaii would never even realize till its too late. I'm glad I came for college because I was able to meet some locals who became my best friends and help keep me from doing anything incredibly stupid
To say I am shocked coming across this video is an understatement, the Madoff’s are long time family friends and neighbors…. I will never forget the day that Tyler went missing and watching my mother sobbing with his in the middle of the street outside our homes. Even 10 years later the family isn’t the same, Tyler’s mother unfortunately passed away after a long (and truly horrible) battle with cancer, she wanted to join her son.
@@whatintheworldisthat Tyler was the middle child of 3. His older brother is now a lawyer and his younger sister (who was ~7 at the time of his disappearance) is starting college in the fall.
damn that is sad.. i just visualized the mothers crying in the middle of the street... :( and only could imagine the pain that family and you friends must of felt that day. i know its been 10 years, Kayla, but you still have my condolences. God bless you lady. cheers
I grew up in Florida and spent a lot of time at the beach and in the water. You have to be aware at all times that the ocean is gonna ocean whether you’re in it or not. It’s up to you to watch the weather and water conditions, and always err on the side of caution. But accidents still happen. Once my little brother and I were in an inflatable dinghy not far from shore and got caught in a riptide that pulled us so far out that we could barely see the land. Even with both of us paddling, the water was stronger than we were. After a couple hours of drifting, the riptide current spat us out near the harbor four miles down the coast, and we paddled into like crazy, only to have a harbor worker yell at us for paddling in the boat traffic zone. After we explained what happened, he let us use the phone and our terrified parents came and got us. You have to keep a cool head in situations like that, and don’t try and fight the ocean. You’ll exhaust yourself struggling and drown. Let it take you where it wants to take you and wait for an opportunity to escape.
If youre caught in a riptide you swim over to the side till you don't feel the force of the current You don't try swim in a starightline directly back to shore i too learned that after getting stuck on a boogy board with my mom as we were sucked out too see luckily a random guy saw us and came to save us
@@A.Lost.Astronaut they were on a dinghy tho. even two people paddling correctly could still be pushed further out faster than they could paddle. changes the math a lot, you know? humans aren't motors
I happened to spend my 1st eight years on Oahu and later 28yrs on both coasts of Florida and once grabbed a little kid getting caught up in a run out in Daytona Beach whose mom was not close enough to have helped as I saw the panic begin in her eyes.. It only takes seconds to get into trouble if you are not aware of the the way the ocean works, especially for children. And Hawaii is much more dangerous.. Waikiki is mellow as its a bay type topography where as the other side has major currents between the islands and you don't get a 2nd chance
Like everyone else from Hawai'i, I'm gonna chime in that these sort of deaths happen multiple times a year. A lot of of tourists, especially from in-land areas really have no idea how strong the ocean is. I once had a conversation with a Midwestern tourist who thought I was being dramatic about surfing being more dangerous than football and that getting hit by a quarterback is NOWHERE near as damaging as THE OCEAN.
Yep, landlubbers are dumb. A long way from Hawaii, namely Nova Scotia (Canada), we were always telling landlubbers to stay away from wet or weed covered rocks. The weed has to have a friction co-efficient lower then ice on ice. You will fall. If the rocks are wet that's where the waves are crashing. In both cases, unless you are roped you will be swept away. While in other oceans, such as the Pacific, this is not necessarily a death sentence, this was the Atlantic Ocean. And she don't play. She takes you and you die. The tourists often thought we were stretching the truth. I was only there for three years and six people with four bodies found. Respect and Live. Play and Die.
@@dragonmaster9360 exactly why I only go only too beaches that are watched s never too far out and I even know that u have too swim sideways if u get ducked into the ocean from the beach
I’ll never forget the coolest teacher I ever had. His name was Mr. Lau and he was my 3rd grade teacher. I’m in my 40’s now and can still picture his awesome demeanor & chill vibes. He was born & raised somewhere in Hawaii but came to the east coast to teach for many years. He was so young- maybe in his mid/late 30’s/early 40’s (which to a 3rd grader is like ancient!), and during his summer trip back home, he was hit by something like a 6-8 ft wave whilst facing towards shore. This man was water. He literally knew every in and out having grown up on the shores of Hawaii but freak accidents can always occur. He was immediately paralyzed and died shortly thereafter. He was a father, a husband, a son, a brother… and most memorable to me… he was put on this earth to teach elementary school children. I think about him all the time. Couldn’t name 1/10th of my teachers but Mr. Lau will go down in history as one incredibly cool and inspirational dude. 🤙🤙
He sounds like an amazing man and I'm sorry you were confronted with the horrible experience of losing a wonderful teacher and example as a man at such a young age. The fact that he's still prominent in your consciousness is proof of his honorable impact.
He sounds like an amazing man and I'm sorry you were confronted with the horrible experience of losing a wonderful teacher and example as a man at such a young age. The fact that he's still prominent in your consciousness is proof of his honorable impact.
@@HarryLime-ge6dc he lives on in my memory forever. He was so special. Made me smile just knowing I shared about him ~ and his incredibly genuine and long lasting impression on me (and every single child he ever taught)~ and having someone comment recognizing the same ♥️
Born and raised on Oahu, grew up in the ocean, beaches all over Oahu, Maui and Kauai. The ocean is so unpredictable, real calm one minute and huge swells the next. In high school my gf and little bro almost died at Sharks Cove, huge sets came out of no where and swept them off the rocks. Fire dept saved them.
My girlfriend and I just got back from our firs trip to Hawaii and one of the places we were going to go initially was Sharks cove for snorkeling. I had us arriving there during low tide, and as soon as I saw it in person, I IMMEDITLY changed our plans based on how the water was coming in from that main point and how the rock formations were set up. I've been fishing for years on the open water (surf and jetties) and anyone with that experience can tell what's good and bad, and that right there was an automatic bad vibes spot for me having never been there before.
My brothers & I witnessed two boys die at sharks cove after getting sucked out by big waves. Scary my two older bothers where playing with the boys just before it happened. Growing up in Hawaii, we where always taught never to turn your back to the ocean.
I almost drowned down in Huntington Beach in ca when I was 16. First time I learned how unpredictable the ocean is. With a group of friends swimming and they thought it would be cool to swim out as far as possible and dive under waves…I flagged down the lifeguards when I knew I was gonna die lol other girls didn’t even realize how far we got. Smh. Never again lol
I’ve lived here for 32 years, have worked on several tour boats. Absolute insanity sending those kids down into those pools. A bashing torture on those vana covered rocks. Completely reckless & unnecessary. RIP Tyler🙏💖🌺
I lived on the Big Island for 32 yrs. Worked on Capt. Zodiac & another private boat that went to this place Kealakekua Bay daily. Terrible decision to put those people in danger. It’s common sense. I can’t believe someone would allow it.
The saddest part of this is that what beach-goers fear most - being swept away into the ocean - is the best thing they can do when they're caught in rip tides or knocked over by big waves. If you know how to swim, you just have to go with the tide and get out past the surf zone where all the worst damage happens to your body. Then you just need to tread water/stay afloat until a rescue can be made. It's all the panic and struggling in the turbulence of the waves that kills people. Incredibly sad.
From the Gold Coast, Australia here. Rip tides are very common here but we are taught to swim parallel to the beach as most rips are very narrow. Swim parallel until you don't feel the outward pull then head back in to the beach.
@@real_wakawaka just be aware, dont splash or swim away, face the shark and lock your elbow and put your arm on their snout and direct them away to the side, when you touch the shark it will be able to "taste" you with the sensory nodes on its mouth and it will probably not feel the need to take a bite to see what you are. we arent apex predators but we are not their prey and we shouldnt act like it.
I’m a city boy, born and raised in NYC, same for my girlfriend at the time. We went to Puerto Rico and and got drunk one night and thought I’d be a good idea to swimming. And stupidity we did and we found a spot that was kinda like that. It wasn’t rough churning water though, but it had the rocks around it separating the lager ocean from this little pool area but the water outside the rocks was rough, just battering the outside rocks so we 2 dopey city kids figured we’re safe on the inside. Maaaan! We almost drowned. That water was just pulling us towards those rocks and we were swimming with everything we had to make it back to shore. My girlfriend said to me while we were trying to get to the shore that she can’t do it anymore and had to tell her “I can’t help you. If you don’t keep swimming you’re gonna die. If I try to help you we’re both gonna die”. She told me later that gave her the boost she needed. But MAN! that was scary. The ocean is nothing to play with. When we finally got to shore we just laid there with no strength left in either of us.
Swimming while drunk in a swimming pool is a bad idea. Swimming in the ocean while drunk is almost guaranteed death. You're lucky the ocean didn't claim you that night.
Those bath tide pools look friggin terrifying! I wouldn't take adults there let alone children! What were they thinking! So sad he was never found. Rest in peace young man. Xx
@@chellesama8256 yeah I cannot imagine getting slammed against those jagged rocks, it’s basically a blender for humans that spits out the unconscious body into the ocean
They can be sneaky at low tide as the tide starts rising, especially if there's a swell coming in as the tide can rise really fast! We spent some time in the pools in southern Maui at low tide but as soon as the first wave got near the top of the cliff it was time to leave!
I grew up here and in the water all my life surfing and free diving and I’ve lost many friends to the ocean who were life long water men and woman. Never underestimate the power of the ocean. Always watch the timing of the swells, observe the current and surrounding area of where the water can reach and always look for the safest exit if anything should happen. Everywhere I go when traveling with others I bring my diving floats with a carabiner and a 200 ft marine cord attached, its helped in situations and is easy and lightweight to bring as a safety precaution. Be safe out there people and condolences to this boy’s family.
I'm from Washington State, I've never been to Hawaii. I barely even been to the ocean. I definitely know not to go into one of those toilet bowl areas. common sense for any adult with a fully developed brain to be able to suss out what happens down there. those guides were ridiculously ignorant and I hope that they do prison time! I haven't finished watching tho, so I don't even know if they lived😮
The ocean in Washington is dangerous too. People don’t realize. I remember a woman getting knocked down by a sneaker wave when she was clamming and her husband couldn’t save her.
@@LilyGazou it's one of the most treacherous coasts. have you ever been to Florida? I grew up traveling up and down the Pacific coasts, that being said, I'd hardly consider myself anything but a novice with regards to the ocean, especially in contrast with somebody who grew up on the islands or on the sea.
This story is heartbreaking. Having lived on Kauai for over 20 yrs, I’ve spent much time on the Big Island hiking and enjoying champagne ponds. Never these coastal baths! Anyone who lives in Hawaii knows never to go near these. We have scolded many tourists that wander out onto the coastal lava rock outcrops to get that perfect vaca pic, as we have watched families drag their kids out there to then have massive waves crashing on them putting them in serious danger. I’ve seen several people in near death situations. It’s crazy. Knowing this detour was devised by someone who grew up on the island is infuriating. And criminal, IMO.
We have a saying here in Hawaii, "no matter what, never turn your back towards the ocean!" That saying goes a long way for many generations since we know that the water can turn on you in a split second and/or when u think it's calm: there can be sudden destruction! Most Nativr Hawaiians are fishes, since we live, and breathe, ocean (metaphorically speaking). But we also know that we must respect the ocean simply because the ocean can be unforgiving and unpredictable! For example: I am aware that even though the the weather may appear to be clear and sunny, and the water may appear to be calm and inviting: the majority of our waters can have strong "currents" underneath which is dangerous! The strategy is to stay calm and "go w/the flow" even if that means it may take you out a 100ft and/or may suck you under, you must keep calm since u r not in control, once u r out of it then u float or doggie paddle a because the more you panic, the less of a chance you have to survive! So I would normally test the waters by throwing in something light to see what will happen or take a few steps in while staying close to the shoreline! Eh I've seen strong swimmers, who can literally hold their breath long term and lose their lives! So please don't take the risk and think smart because it can cost u your life!
When ive gotten dumped by a wave its always when swimming back to shore. I forget the waves coming behind me. So its true when you are in the ocean as well! Swim back to shore facing the ocean
You are so right.. 30 years ago this happened to me.. my instinct just said let go.. I did and it took hours but I got back. The ocean was, and is my master teacher and my guide. I still live in Hawaii and enjoy the ocean, still learning🙏🏽🌋🌊Rest and peace to you Tyler.
I am a native of hawaii born and raised here for over 40 years and the visitors here do NOT know how extreme the ocean is and alot of them don't abide by the signs that are put up and they end up hurt or dead its tragic.
Same shit in Australia. We even have a show called Bondi Rescue that is basically life guards at Bondi beach rescue dumb tourists and bogans while we mock them.
Yes it is the companies fault for not hiring the proper TRAINED individuals and paying them accordingly. They were cutting corners to line their own pockets as most corporations do (greed). They should have had an age minimum of 30 and made damn sure those people knew what they were doing. And paid them well for it. They were greedy and careless so they hired children to watch over other children, paying them chicken scratch and not bothering to do proper training or background checks. I hope Tylers parent's sued the living crap out of that company.
Well, some 20-somethings are pretty smart, but most still have the teenager sense that they are immortal and that bad things happen to other people, not them. So they are not the best judge of risks.
This must be by design. Schools teach made up fantasy, and child labor laws keep young people out of workforce. Men can't learn real life skills, and can't start families crashing the population. Smart parents probably train kids in the family business illegally.
I was a life guard for several years and have always been a strong swimmer. But one day I was caught in a rip current that completely pulled me under. If my brother hadn’t have been near to me to pull me up I would have drown. One of the scariest days of my life.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969wow well that’s just your opinion. It probably meant a lot to the kid. It’s rough how you care more about how you feel than how your kid would feel about chasing their dreams. The kid just exists to make you happy right! You should just put it in a bubble and keep it next to you on the couch so you can always be happy!! SMH.
This makes me feel better about my husband and i’s mild Hawaii vacation. Ate good food, hung out on some cool beaches, got in the water just a smidge. Went to nature centers and stayed on the trails.
I was there in that exact same spot a day after this happened. They actually had a park ranger there telling us to stay back n even being within 10 feet of those blow holes it can suck you in. Hawaii is absolutely beautiful. Its also absolutely dangerous as hell. If u have never felt lava rock, u have no idea the pain and injuries just falling down on ur own can cause, now imagine hundreds, or thousands of pounds of force just picking u up as the water swells and slamming u down as it recedes. I remember the waves that month in Hawaii were the largest waves Hawaii had experienced in over 50 years. I saw 60 foot waves plenty of times while i was there and the waves were a constant 40 feet every time one broke. Obviously every different part of the islands experience totally different surf. The day after this wen i was in that spot, the blow holes were shooting water 35 feet in the air. Always act accordingly.
What makes lava rock different than regular rock? I can guess that it hasn't fully cooled down into a solid and can pop if enough force is applied? Then wouldn't you see lava flow around the area?
@@kosmosXcannonimagine the force of ocean waves repeatedly pulverising your body against razor blade like rocks until you either drown, crack your head open or bleed out (or a combination of all 3).
Lava rock is probably just as painful as barnacles. When i was younger my feet hands arms and legs were covered in razor slices and blood everywhere 😮 from walking on and falling on rocks with those little creatures
If you see the ocean washing roughly over rocks and can't "recognize the risks" then do yourself a favor and just stay away from the ocean altogether. It should be obvious that it's a dangerous activity and if you aren't aware that the ocean is powerful you have no business anywhere near it, regardless of what you can afford.
While this is true I still wouldn't be blaming high school kids for listening to who they thought were supposed to be trustworthy adults and mentors with experience. They might have had these thoughts themselves but being encouraged by the wrong people could easily dissuade their better conscience.
I grew up in lake county and moved to a seaside town for some years. I realized that I did not understand the ocean and went in very rarely and not far. At a guarded beach, lifeguards on duty. There were drownings every summer. Many tourists went into the water in the evening.
I feel so sorry for his family, and suppose one can only hope he was knocked unconscious, and that it happened quickly, so that he wasn't just paralysed by fear/disbelief.
Not sure I can finish this, I'm already so pissed. But that's why I would never trust sending my kid off on a vacation so far away if I wasn't there to watch them myself, bc for all the promises of safety first, they ended up letting a criminal take those kids to the most dangerous spot they could find!
So this was something interesting for me to stumble upon on one of my favourite channels. One of the clips used of Queen’s Bath here was a video my father posted to TH-cam of someone being knocked doff a 40 - 60’ high cliff face by a giant wave in Kauai, Hawaii (with that section being removed for obvious reasons). The video is called “Queen’s Bath Rescue” posted by Andrew if anyone wants to look it up. I’ll dive a bit into the story to show you just how unexpectedly powerful Mother Nature is in Hawaii. Just getting into Kauai on that day, my father and I decided to take a walk down to Queen’s Bath (not so much a walk as it was a muddy slide down a mountain slope. We wanted to see what we could see before the incoming tropical storm impacted the island. We made it down to the rocky cliff sides of Queen’s Bath and my father, being the man to record everything, was taking this footage while I, mindful of the situation and the waves power, was taking in the views at a distance making sure to keep the posted life preserver locations in mind. About 30 -40 ft away was a man just by himself standing on the cliffs edge. At that time it just so happened to only be the 3 of us in that section. A series of 3 waves struck as shown in the full video before the strength of the last wave pushed upwards from the cliff and to force of the water knocked the man off balance and pulled him off the edge of the cliff. At that point, my father lowered his camera to stop recording while yelling “Oh sh*t, he went in! He went in!” at me. At that point, already being anxious from the situation, grabbed the life preserver and timed the next few waves to toss it out to him. I then had to run full tilt over the jagged rocks to find other tourists around that may happen to have cell service as the beach is fairly remote. In this time, the man had tried to swim closer to shore (which you should not do if you ever end up in the water off a cliff side. Swim out as you are more likely to be battered against the razor sharp lava rocks) and other tourists that came upon the scene were all yelling at him to swim out. Once I finally was able to find someone with cell service the fire department was informed of the situation and sent a jet ski around from nearby (being still 20 minutes away). After a series of frantic directional pointing towards the man by everyone who had joined us at that point, the jet ski was able to locate him in the tall waves and subsequently pick him up from there. I still hold that deep fear for looking at waves from a cliff side and my father, to this day, says that was by far the stupidest danger he’s ever put me in. I hope that man rescued wasn’t too beat up by the drop and I hope he is doing well. Thanks for the read if you stayed this long. It was very interesting seeing the footage used here.
That hike was the worst when it was wet.. your right it was almost easier to slide down forget about sandals. I made a walking stick and left it up top for someone else to use after me
@@MrDeified Locals beg and plead for tourists to not go down to Queens Bath, my friends home is right there, they ignore him, ignore the signs, hop the gates when its up, bring kids, bring infants, come back up with one or more less family members or friends. Nothing we can do to stop the reality, some come to Hawaii to die.
@@cwired9407 it’s true. Sadly. I have witnessed the scene you describe too many times to count. No matter how much they were warned by us, Parents taking their kids to areas like this, then when the wave sets pummel them, they’re clawing their way back over jagged lava, bleeding from their hands, elbows, knees, and feet as each wave does more damage. But they still don’t listen as you beg them to swim out away from the pound zone. Many beach days ruined, as we watch helplessly, encourage and ultimately becoming part of their near death vacation story.
As a parent, sending a teenager on a group trip with other teenagers to a very dangerous island in the care of a company, who's sole purpose is to make money is wild.
Even just a group of teen boys is a risky idea. I used to work in Emergency Rooms, and there was an old, staff-only joke that some injuries are referred to as “testosterone poisoning,” like a fractured arm after riding a shopping cart down some stairs, or doing a cartwheel thru a bonfire to impress others at a party. It is pretty clear that young men take more risks in groups, to the point many states don’t let teens drive with other teens for a while after getting their license.
Nope nope and nope....just because you have the money to afford something like this does not make it right. No way would I send one of my kids with a bunch of teenagers and adults that I don't know to do something like this for 21 days! No way....
My freshman year in high school, there was a male student who had suffered an accident while on a summer abroad trip, the summer before his senior year. I don’t remember the exact details, but something about a balcony mixed with alcohol and no parental supervision. He ended up paralyzed from the waist down. I think of him from time to time. As a parent now, I cannot imagine sending my kids on these kind of trips. I understand the parents mean well, what a nightmare. But, all too often you hear horror stories from these unsupervised trips.
Very true. As a parent I hope to teach my children how to think through situations. Problem is most parents either are uninvolved with their childrens development and leave raising them to the school (who also has over a thousand kids to think about) or they helicopter and don’t let they’re kids learn how to make good decisions on their own.
A few yrs back, a Chicago suburban HS water polo team visited Hawaii. The kids were all great swimmers and they jumped in the shorebreak at Waimea and one drowned. Apparently you can't trust HS officials when they take a team somewhere to have any common sense with your kids. Ask any Hawaiian and they will tell you NEVER to swim in the Waimea shorebreak.
My girlfriend and I just got back from our first trip to Hawaii, and if there is one thing i can say to first timers; RESEARCH WHERE YOUR GOING AND IF IT FEELS UNSAFE, IT IS! We hired guides, we asked a lot of questions, and anything that looked harsh on our own we avoided. Even some of the most basic/intermidate hikes of the island (koko head comes to mind) are full of dangers/pitfalls that can lead to serious life threatning injuries/death with one small miss step. Be safe out there everyone and RIP Tyler.
I've lived near the ocean long enough to know you don't mess with it because it will pretty much always win. Very sad too see people be led into such a situation.
Don't forget the unknown subteranian lava tubes that sometimes open up, a few years ago a professor who lived in Hawaii was doing yard work and fell in one that was hidden on his property and by the time his friend realized that he had missed their lunch plans and alerted the authorities it was too late.
Your narration is so much better on this one!! So so so happy to hear you sounding more natural & genuine rather than trying to put on a creepy/exciting voice. This was such a sad one - I'm looking forward to you continuing to improve and keep sharing these heartbreaking stories.
Since you brought it up. Pretty good, but if you want to seriously pursue this, some study of elocution. Heard did-dent, and tha ocean. Better soundingr is thee ocean. There was another tha spot too.
You should do how many people die on hiking trails here. I had been hiking Ka’au crater forever and didn’t think of it as a dangerous hike. Until I fell 80 feet and almost left this world. Then upon digging further online saw how many deaths there are.
I live in Ka’u near south point, you should know when you enter the ocean you are on your own. The breaks can be relentless. I’ve been picked up and tossed onto the rocks a couple times. It can be scary as hell especially if you are not used to it
I got rag dolled once in San Clemente. My boyfriend at the time told me to try surfing his short board on waves that were a probably up to my elbow, maybe shoulder. The nose of the board got caught under the surface as soon I stood on my very first real wave (this was the second or third time I'd surfed total, the other times were on a long board on very mushy, small waves). I got caught in a set of 5 waves total, the first three messed me up so bad and I could only get a couple gasps of air in between each one before getting hammered again. The first two straight up broke on top of me, with only maybe 2 feet of water as padding. I remember feeling like I was in a washing machine made of sand paper; was shocked at how heavy the water was, it hurt so much. After the fourth wave, which was a lot softer, tossed me around I started to make peace with that I was going to drown. Just decided if it's going to happen it's going to happen, I couldn't keep trying to swim spinning around like that, feeling crushed and then get only 3 breaths max. But I tried my hardest to duck dive the 5th one and managed to not get so tossed around. I then pulled my board by the leash, climbed on and paddled out past where the waves begin to shape and sat there on shivering. My boyfriend eventually paddled over- he had no clue what happened to me, because he'd caught a wave and surfed away right before everything went down. I was super upset with him but he told me he thought I'd be fine, since I'm brave. I could have easily died and no one would have had a clue til it was too late. To this day I have zero interest in surfing, aside from long boarding on tiny waves.
These trips are extremely popular around the world. Most are a safe and memorable adventure. I went on such a trip and now both my kids have as well. Knowing there are unscrupulous operators didn’t prevent me from the experience. Just made sure the kids knew their limits and made good choices
Tourists need to understand the dangers of exploring Hawaii. Every year people die or get injured. Yes it's beautiful here, but it can be deceptive. Definitely need to show respect for the ocean. Guides were idiots too.
No sense teach or tell them brada they no listen to us they figure they spend big money to come here or my favorite this is America I can do whatever I want gtfoh
@@that.neurodivergent I don’t know my whole life I live here nothing changed with tourists thinking they ignore the signs and do what they like since the beginning of the missionary days they treated Hawai’i like one playground then America came and got greedy and think they more better than us go figure
@@kendawg8085 no totally I can see where you’re coming from and I respect it, I’m sure that’s incredibly frustrating! I’m just saying that there are americans who don’t subscribe to the idea of tourism as a whole and are generally nice, well behaved people. You just wouldn’t know it because they’re not the ones that stick out! I’m sorry about all the shitty tourists though, I know they only see Hawai’i as their perfect little vacation spot and don’t recognize it for what it is or acknowledge the history and culture of Pacific Islanders, it is truly sad! Just don’t lose all faith I promise that we can beat the ignorance together
We hiked up to Queen's Bath in Kauai to go swimming/snorkeling when I was about 13 years old. As soon as we got there, my mom refused to let us get anywhere close. The waves didn't look that bad, but we knew from being whitewater rafters that looks can be deceiving. It was still worth the hike. It was beautiful, we watched the turtles living their best lives and got to see something you can't fund in landlocked Colorado. By the time we were getting ready to leave, the waves were really crashing. Water is unforgiving. Sadly, too many people seem to forget this.
I was 20 once, and 20 isnt a mature age at all for a guide in charge of so many young teens in a dangerous place with sharp lava rocks, sharks, and bone crushing waves. Its obvious that the guides judgement was severely affect by his age. Some men mature at diffrent ages, and I didnt fully grow up into a responsible adult until I was 35.
I totally agree with you so in 2019 I went out to Florida for a vacation and you know as a man I rent a JetSki‘s and I decided to go far out at one moment I decided to see how fast the JetSki was so I started ripping it back-and-forth in a matter of seconds, while I was going 77 mph The ocean dipped right under me, and I was airborne for aboutfive seconds as soon as I hit ,the water broke my nose, eyesocket cheekbone and fractured my lower jaw never did I think, falling into water what caused that much damage. The l shoreline was way too far and anyone who’s been to Florida knows about shepherds. The pain was excruciating as a floating in the water adrenaline rushing. Next thing I noticed was a pool of blood forming around me. I automatically started to panic. And looking for the JetSki, the more I thought to swim the farther away you got from me at one point I just gave up and decided to flow backwards and wait for my demise or someone to rescue me at that exact moment, I realized I can actually Get momentum If I backstroke . At this point my adrenaline is running high. All I can think about is sharks smelling blood in which that gave me enough strength to make it back on the JetSki. I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy. Once I reach the short, I just drove straight into the sand and everybody started freaking out. I was alreadycalm, so I sat on the chair and asked for ice and a towel. As everyone ran in circles, I walked up to the Bar that shepherds hotel owns. As soon as the bartender seen me, she fainted. I had a couple people help me out with the ice. Tell me to sit down as I waited for an ambulance. Today I have a scar on top of my eyelid, one running down my cheek because I had to get a plate put in my cheekbone and my jaw wired. I’m OK today though when it’s too cold my face hurts and my eye starts to twitch so I have made it my mission to show people pictures of my face Along with my story Hoping people use it as a learning experience. Hod bless to those who have make it out alive from a horrible accident
Damn sad story but that’s what happens when a group of teens and a couple of young adults go into the wilderness unsupervised by an actual adult they tend to do stupid things and end up winning stupid prizes it’s everyone and no one’s fault
This happens a lot in Oregon as well. Our coast looks similar and is as rugged in many places. The difference is the temperature of the water. It’s so cold here. People drown all the time being swept away by a breaker or a sneaker wave. It’s so sad and easily avoided. Most locals here know never to swim in one of those sucker holes.
We’ve got a place near Tillamook. So many friends/family who visit don’t seem to believe me when I tell them how dangerous the ocean is here. I pull up articles and videos about sneaker waves and that usually does the trick
In the late 70ds me and my brothers went to Lincoln city . We were waste high in the water. This huge wave came in and knocked us over. I got drug out in the ocean about 100 feet. I was skidding and bouncing on sand as I was being towed out to sea. When everything stopped I popped up to the surface and I was way past the breakers. I was a good swimmer but it took a little bit to get back to shore. That was a rip tied and one hell of a ride.
I was a kid in Eugene when those students got swept off the rocks, I remember my teacher sobbing bc she knew them, we were raised with beach rules as strict as gun rules. NEVER turn your back on the ocean, ALWAYS assume there is a rip and that sneaker waves are present. The ocean is life and death, safety should always come before fun.
I almost drowned when I was little. There was this large boulder a little ways from the shore. Little me didn't understand that the ocean likes to pull out sand around big rocks. Had it not been for a stranger watching as I approached the rock, I wouldn't be alive today.
I SPENT 23 DAYS IN HAWAII BACK IN 2007, WENT TO ALL 4 ISLANDS, I WAS BY MYSELF AND DID A LOT OF FUN STUFF, BUT I ALSO MITIGATED THE RISK AND DANGERS AND THAT'S WHY I'M ALIVE TIL THIS DAY, MITIGATE THE DAMN RISK, NOBODY IS INVINCIBLE
People need to remember. When adventuring in nature, nature does not play fair. And she will Always Win. When you want to be adventurous, you should assume that adventure could be your last.
I lived in Kauai. The tourists went missing and then mostly died later. It is very dangerous to travel by oneself especially some attraction area, such as the queen bath, Grand Canyon, Nepali coast trail. I worked at the restaurant, and I would often see my nonlocal haole customers get broken limbs or huge cuts on them. They didn't get it from the fights, but that is from just them exploring the island. We would hear the siren all the time since we're very small island and get really bad traffics.
I went to Kiahuna Beach on south Kauai in Sept 2012, and even though the Google reviews say this beach doesn't have currents to worry about, I was swimming about 150 feet or so from the beach and I tried to swim back to shore but felt I wasn't getting anywhere. It was really scary, but then I swam really hard and was able to get back to shore. Obviously it wasn't a strong current or I probably wouldn't be here typing this, since I'm not a strong swimmer and didn't know you're supposed to swim parallel to the beach to get out of a current.
Despicable. Really hope the "guides" faced jail time and I hope everyone involved in the failed chain of leadership got the pants absolutely sued off them.
Been all over the big island and as amazed at how dangerous so many of the beautiful beaches were. As a scuba diver trained in rips and such there was no way I was going to go into the water in those locations
I lived there, went to that area often. Anyone who lives there knows there are occasional rogue waves, and those waves are monstrous, along with the jagged lava, I am surprised the locals weren't more careful. We spent many long hours out on the lava floes, number 1 rule is, do not turn your back on the ocean!!
Hawaii is no joke. I've been to the big island a few times, and there are areas that are super-tourist friendly and relatively safe, but that gives people the impression that the entire island is like that. We walked to the famous green sand beach on the southern tip, but were way unprepared for that trek. Although there are marked trails, it's a 3 mile hike (one way) from the parking lot, and it's entirely across open sandy/rocky hills with no protection from the sun. Once you get to the beach, taking a dip in the water sounds nice, but the beach is in a bay that funnels the surf into it. The waves can EASILY knock you down, and if you manage to stay standing, the resulting undertow will almost certainly knock you off your feet. I was incredibly surprised just how strong the undertow was; it's like being in a river where the current is rushing by at like 30 miles an hour. And after all that, you still got the 3 mile hike back to your car.
Such a sad tragic story. I feel like in our modern world we have everything so bubble-wrapped and safety-capped so kids will never be in any danger, then you throw in the thrills of video games, movie stunts and crazy adrenaline theme park rides... you have a lot of people looking for these thrills, yet also conditioned to have absolutely no concept there could even be any real danger. They see this stuff on their social feeds everyday. But this wasn't a theme park - this was Mother Nature.
Parents say all that and think video games and social media are the problem, but they won’t let their kid do anything that has even a small chance of injury.
Similar conditions exist on the 2nd biggest island in Samoa 🇼🇸. It’s called Savaii The lava fields are deadly and tourism to the fields is closed. There is no active volcano or lava flows, but you absolutely cannot travel safely over these areas ESPECIALLY near the ocean edge. One slip and you’re gone. Samoa 🇼🇸 is the true Jurassic park. It’s magnificent 🤩
I notice that a lot of the comments are about how visitors to Hawaii don't have a clue about the dangers and die every year, however this particular death was caused by at least one guide who was not a "visitor" but a local, who still apparently was unaware of the danger he was getting his charges into. Why? To be cool? Maybe. By the way, what happened to that guy in that one pool that kept getting huge waves going over him? He was in a huge pool, but it looked like so much water that he was probably in trouble, but not a word in the video about him. But the beginning of the video talking about how the "guide" companies treat everybody should be a warning to everybody, including parents, that your kid may not come back from their adventure, simply because of a guide's decision. But I'm sure that most parents will continue to send their kids off to the adventure of a lifetime without even knowing about this kid.
I was watching some hip hop documentary on a group of new york drill rappers who didn't know who immortal technique even was, and talking shit about his name.... lol. Like these kids have the dumbest rap names. They all have some kind of acronym for their names Gsg boop Or CBS news lol
Growing up in Hawaii, and being kanaka maoli. Sometimes you can’t fight the water and you just gotta go into the open ocean because in the end you’ll have a better chance rather than fighting the waves and lava rocks. It’s sad to say. But you waste a lot of energy, and if you don’t have the patience, energy, or timing. It can be a lot for even experienced swimmers. Be careful out here guys. Sometimes the views are more than enough.
It’s heartbreaking 💔 they never found their sons body. As a mother, I’m not sure if I could ever leave Hawaii… I’d feel like I was abandoning my child (there was nothing they could do though). I really hope Tyler’s parents and family are doing well and focusing on their family. This event is a mothers worst nightmare and I hope new rules and regulations were implemented. It would be AWFUL if it were to ever happen again!
Took them to Queen's Bath? Really? Idiots! Why did they take the kids there. I hope they got their just punishment! I am Native and know better! DANGEROUS AREA! To anyone from abroad who visits here in Hawaii LEARN the dangers of our ocean safety hazards here. Beautiful, bit can turn dangerous on a split second. Condolences to his family, and others who were affected. If you don't see the locals in the area , it's a red flag. Nolan should have KNOWN better! There are reasons why Queen's bath should be left alone.
People die every year at lake Erie and Michigan who are locals and are good swimmers, they still get dragged by the undertow....its heartbreaking...the ocean has powers far surpassing a fresh water lake
One of my closest friends and one that I've had for many years, maybe the one I've had for the longest time at this point of my life, died by drowning a few weeks ago while going to the beach, strong waves with the tide swept him into open waters, he had no chance so this story stuck with me. I've never heard about these spots in Hawaii before, but sound like what nightmares are made of, and I've had many nightmares about being dragged to open waters while swimming and drowning. I don't get why Tyler's body was never recovered though, what exactly happened for it to be unrecoverable? Did it just get swept to far away in open waters?
My friend's son was swept out from Makapuu Beach. Despite divers, drones, and scores of volunteers searching the shoreline, he was never found. Lots of currents and underwater caves bodies can get lodged into.
Water is by far one of the most powerful forces on earth. That little guy was swept out into the ocean and with rip tides and other things his body could literally be stuck in one area for days. Then there are sharks and other fish that will eat them it is just food to them. Sad to say. This is why I have a healthy respect for bodies of water any size.
The only difference between an island and a ship at sea is that the island is fixed in place... The sea still flows around it. You can go ahead and disregard that lesson in High School Physics class where they explain how ocean waves don't mean the water's moving. While the physics IS true, that water is also 100% MOVING 100% of the time. It never stops. It's either rushing hard and fast or flowing slow and steady. SO once a body's dragged out into it, you're running further and further behind with every passing minute. You're not just searching for it. You're chasing after what you can't even yet find! It's not so surprising, then, just how many people vanish utterly without a trace from islands... ANY islands, for the matter... and are never EVER seen again. It's even kind of surprising we manage to recover as many as we do. ;o)
How sad and terrifying I grew up on the oceans 🌊 and I’m terrified of the power and danger of the ocean , I was injured when I was 25 in a simple boogie boarding accident I was almost paralyzed and still have chronic hip pain
I've never been to Hawaii but I'm from a state that has dangerous rivers. Because they don't look dangerous people jump right in. Visitors don't realize we mean it when we post warnings. Being able to swim doesn't help if you get pulled under. There's no telling where your body will end up. Chuck Morris of the band Lotus and his son died here this year while kayaking. It took 24 days to find them.
Tragic story that could have been avoided. 😢on a side note, Mr. D- your narration style seems to be getting more natural and you’re doing a great job with these videos! You should do a face reveal when you hit 100K subscribers!
here's a valuable life saving tip: don't trust anybody you don't personally know. that's all for today kids, i won't even charge you $4500, it's free advice and will last you a long life.
Training is crucial. At 14 you can take an Junior Life Saving Class At 16 a Senior life Saving class and at 18 Advanced class which teaches how to rescue a person from rip tides and earning skills to work as a Life Guard and qualified Water Safety Instructor. The most lesson I learned was not to panic. This has saved my life many times.
I almost lost my stupid sister on the North Shore of Oahu. I call her stupid because she was warned multiple times by me AND lifeguards. Signs as well. There were tide pools, lava rock, and waves. We grew up on a coastline and spent alot of time at the beach. My Dad always made sure he talked to us about currents, riptides, wave sets, etc. So she also KNEW BETTER. She wanted to frolick in the tide pools. The lifeguards told her, and others, to get away because it is dangerous. They were also standing on lava rocks that were on the outside lip of the tide pools. I was standing at a safe distance where i was allowed to be just taking photos with my new camera. She called my name. I pointed the camera at her just in time to see a big wave crash down on top of her and she disappeared. Thankfully when the wave pushed her forward across the tide pool a man grabbed her and she wasnt sucked out. They told me that they wouldn't have been able to get to her because there was an empty area under the lip of that rock shelf and people got su ked into that cave like void underneath and they cant be saved. She was definitely cut up pretty good from the lava rock and had the rest of our 2 week vacation to think on her bad behavior. It was only our second day of vacation so she was pretty sore and scabby for the rest of our trip. It scared me really bad when the wave went back and she was nowhere to be seen. I thought it had taken her. It was so fast and forceful that i didn't see her get washed past me. Those waves come in sets. Just because you walk up somewhere and the waves aren't coming up big doesn't mean the next set wont. They come from different directions in some places because of currents too. I have no idea why anybody would tell a bunch of kids to jump in there. Thats definitely negligence and indifference. The tour guides look like teens themselves. No way i would trust soneone else with my kid like that. Not even a 40 year old let alone a 20 year old. You dont know them even. You are sending your kid to strangers in another state. No way. There's a long list of things that could go wrong. Whether by accident or intentional.
Mrs Madoff is a long time friend of my family, I’m sure she would find comfort that her students are still thinking of her. Her battle with cancer was truly horrific to watch, and she died ready to see her son again. We all keep turquoise items all over the house in memory of her and her favorite color.
So many people die by panicking in the ocean, when you are in a bad situation although very difficult need to control your emotions. Panicking saps your energy and makes it very very difficult to hold your breathe for any length of time. Respect the Ocean, even if you are a good swimmer it doesn’t matter if you have little knowledge about waves and cannot keep calm.
I will never understand why parents sue saying it isn't about MONEY but getting the truth out and then settling for an undisclosed amount and an NDA so the truth is kept secret, make that make sense? Never send your kids off on something like this and nothing but 20 something year old making these kind of decisons.
I’m sure the parents had in mind that the tour guide company would keep them save and out of harms why and not put them in it. That’s what they paid the money to the company.
Because at what point do you let it rest? It would be hard to spend years in litigation over the death of a child, most people would probably accept a settlement to begin putting it behind them.
I can't believe they told them to go in it. What was their plan if someone got sucked out to ocean? Sure it could be fun if everything goes right.... but there's no guarantee so why take chance. The toilet bowl looks so scary and I can't believe they saw it fill up and then get low and they went in it!
I surf in this beach called Maresias, very famous beach here in Brazil for surfers… the most dangerous days are always the ones when the sea is calm, people tends to think that a calm sea is totally safe, but the place is full of currents… a lot of people had die there… people need to respect the ocean
i grew up on the oregon coast. I would be horrified to stand on a rock getting splashed by waves. The thought of swimming around in that "fun zone" is outrageous.
I was at Fort DeSoto out past the sandbar a couple of years ago and a family of Mom, Dad, a toddler, and what looked like Grandma were standing at the waters’ edge. The mother told the toddler that “The ocean is our friend!”. I was thinking how stupid she was because the ocean is NOT your friend and she shouldn’t have been telling the child that! “Yes, lady, swim on out as far as you can and then tell me how friendly you found it”. If the ocean didn’t kill her a shark probably would have!
As YT videos like this came to my attention, I am so glad my family was not rich. I had to get a full time job and support myself immediately after high school. No exotic trips, thank you.
@@amazonariver1969 Ooh, you figured that out all by yourself? No, but the point was that there was not enough money to subsidize trouble abroad, like Otto Warmbier, whose parents will never take responsibility for indulging his whim to visit North Korea.
As a mom of 4, my youngest set to graduate in just 2wks, I can’t fathom the pain Tyler’s mother endured 🥺 His father & entire family 💔 R.I.P. Tyler 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
A bunch of teens led by unfit adults. A completely preventable tragedy.
Led by under trained, under vetted, underPAID people not fit for the job. I hold the company that hired these adult children FULLY responsible and so should you! If you hire a farmer to fly a commercial jet and pay them minimum wage, you will get exactly what you paid for!!!
@@reesedaniel5835 exactly, I was going to post it but you beat me to it.
"Fun zone" suddenly not so fun 😢
When I lived on Oahu, I was at Sandys Beach, and happen to see a lady get pulled out,
she was a tourist and couldn't get on her feet and the next swell was coming in like a freight train.
*I ran to her, took an arm and said you gotta get up & NOW, were gonna run
( all the while knowing that wave is gonna bring us up to shore on our bellies all huli huli like )
I held her so tight for that impact, rode the wave in and never letting go, and once at the highest part of sand, said the same thing:
Get up now and run once more, you did great!
*glad to be in the right place, without hesitation and know the beach well.
The coastline of Hawaii is an ever changing place, the water is strong and alluring. Even if the locals are playing, visitors should remain
hyper-vigilant.
Sandy’s is one of those places that looks deceptive. From the sand it doesn’t look that bad, but when you’re in the water the ocean immediately let’s you know who’s the boss. I’ve seen more ambulances there than any other beaches combined… I’ve seen numerous head injuries, broken bones, countless near drownings, and even a flipped knee cap (didn’t even know that could happen)…people underestimate it every day.
That was kind of you to help, a lot of people don’t because they’re scared and because tourists especially don’t realize they’re in danger until it’s too late.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom Thank you for such kind words, and words of wisdowm. I never knew a knee cap could flip, that sand drop is steep at times, ooof!
I was a hyper vigilant watching her not look at ocean, and I'm glad I didn't hesitate. I was glad she performed the task I gave her :) phew.
Stupid to go into this! Such a tragedy for this family.
Do not trust others my mum always taught me to be responsible for your own safety
@@fiennesgirl9776 are you saying it's stupid for her to talk about this or?
I live in Hawaii. People die here all the time due to the lack of public information about the dangers that are here. There needs to be a safety video on every flight to every island. The fact that there is not is despicable.
You must be NOT Hawain. Who tf wanders off to see a volcano??
@@michelrood2966 unsuspecting tourists??
I've never been there, and if I did, I would want to know about all the dangers.
@Michel Rood Hawaiian* and everyone in Hawaii lol yes tourist should really have a knowledgeable safety oriented guide if they are going to somewhere other than a developed tourist destination. However during the previous eruption people were going out to the lava by the hundreds every night and for the vast majority it was done safely. I don't know anyone under the age of 50 from Hawaii that didn't go see the lava lol
@The Black Rainbow that's good! As someone who moved to the big island 15 years ago, the place is full of dangers that people not from Hawaii would never even realize till its too late. I'm glad I came for college because I was able to meet some locals who became my best friends and help keep me from doing anything incredibly stupid
To say I am shocked coming across this video is an understatement, the Madoff’s are long time family friends and neighbors…. I will never forget the day that Tyler went missing and watching my mother sobbing with his in the middle of the street outside our homes. Even 10 years later the family isn’t the same, Tyler’s mother unfortunately passed away after a long (and truly horrible) battle with cancer, she wanted to join her son.
That’s so sad How horrible RIP
Wow, so sad. Did Tyler have siblings?
@@whatintheworldisthat Tyler was the middle child of 3. His older brother is now a lawyer and his younger sister (who was ~7 at the time of his disappearance) is starting college in the fall.
damn that is sad.. i just visualized the mothers crying in the middle of the street... :( and only could imagine the pain that family and you friends must of felt that day. i know its been 10 years, Kayla, but you still have my condolences. God bless you lady. cheers
@@kaylasohl5916 thank you for your reply. Wow, that is such a tragic story. My heart goes out to that family and yours, as well.
I grew up in Florida and spent a lot of time at the beach and in the water. You have to be aware at all times that the ocean is gonna ocean whether you’re in it or not. It’s up to you to watch the weather and water conditions, and always err on the side of caution. But accidents still happen.
Once my little brother and I were in an inflatable dinghy not far from shore and got caught in a riptide that pulled us so far out that we could barely see the land. Even with both of us paddling, the water was stronger than we were. After a couple hours of drifting, the riptide current spat us out near the harbor four miles down the coast, and we paddled into like crazy, only to have a harbor worker yell at us for paddling in the boat traffic zone. After we explained what happened, he let us use the phone and our terrified parents came and got us. You have to keep a cool head in situations like that, and don’t try and fight the ocean. You’ll exhaust yourself struggling and drown. Let it take you where it wants to take you and wait for an opportunity to escape.
If youre caught in a riptide you swim over to the side till you don't feel the force of the current
You don't try swim in a starightline directly back to shore
i too learned that after getting stuck on a boogy board with my mom as we were sucked out too see luckily a random guy saw us and came to save us
@@A.Lost.Astronaut they were on a dinghy tho. even two people paddling correctly could still be pushed further out faster than they could paddle. changes the math a lot, you know? humans aren't motors
That's scary as hell... Glad you made it out!
I happened to spend my 1st eight years on Oahu and later 28yrs on both coasts of Florida and once grabbed a little kid getting caught up in a run out in Daytona Beach whose mom was not close enough to have helped as I saw the panic begin in her eyes.. It only takes seconds to get into trouble if you are not aware of the the way the ocean works, especially for children. And Hawaii is much more dangerous.. Waikiki is mellow as its a bay type topography where as the other side has major currents between the islands and you don't get a 2nd chance
@@lithiumpines6547 doesn't her to try always try.
Like everyone else from Hawai'i, I'm gonna chime in that these sort of deaths happen multiple times a year. A lot of of tourists, especially from in-land areas really have no idea how strong the ocean is. I once had a conversation with a Midwestern tourist who thought I was being dramatic about surfing being more dangerous than football and that getting hit by a quarterback is NOWHERE near as damaging as THE OCEAN.
They don't hear how many people end up paralyzed.
Bc they're only worried about sharks and whatever else they have in their heads 🙄 They watch TV and movies and that's what they think Hawaii is
Yep, landlubbers are dumb. A long way from Hawaii, namely Nova Scotia (Canada), we were always telling landlubbers to stay away from wet or weed covered rocks. The weed has to have a friction co-efficient lower then ice on ice. You will fall. If the rocks are wet that's where the waves are crashing. In both cases, unless you are roped you will be swept away. While in other oceans, such as the Pacific, this is not necessarily a death sentence, this was the Atlantic Ocean. And she don't play. She takes you and you die. The tourists often thought we were stretching the truth. I was only there for three years and six people with four bodies found. Respect and Live. Play and Die.
@@dragonmaster9360 exactly why I only go only too beaches that are watched s never too far out and I even know that u have too swim sideways if u get ducked into the ocean from the beach
I wonder how many people realize getting hit with a gallon of water is probably going to hurt. Then image how much water is out in the ocean.
I’ll never forget the coolest teacher I ever had. His name was Mr. Lau and he was my 3rd grade teacher. I’m in my 40’s now and can still picture his awesome demeanor & chill vibes. He was born & raised somewhere in Hawaii but came to the east coast to teach for many years. He was so young- maybe in his mid/late 30’s/early 40’s (which to a 3rd grader is like ancient!), and during his summer trip back home, he was hit by something like a 6-8 ft wave whilst facing towards shore. This man was water. He literally knew every in and out having grown up on the shores of Hawaii but freak accidents can always occur. He was immediately paralyzed and died shortly thereafter. He was a father, a husband, a son, a brother… and most memorable to me… he was put on this earth to teach elementary school children. I think about him all the time. Couldn’t name 1/10th of my teachers but Mr. Lau will go down in history as one incredibly cool and inspirational dude. 🤙🤙
He sounds like an amazing man and I'm sorry you were confronted with the horrible experience of losing a wonderful teacher and example as a man at such a young age. The fact that he's still prominent in your consciousness is proof of his honorable impact.
He sounds like an amazing man and I'm sorry you were confronted with the horrible experience of losing a wonderful teacher and example as a man at such a young age. The fact that he's still prominent in your consciousness is proof of his honorable impact.
@@HarryLime-ge6dc he lives on in my memory forever. He was so special. Made me smile just knowing I shared about him ~ and his incredibly genuine and long lasting impression on me (and every single child he ever taught)~ and having someone comment recognizing the same ♥️
First name Buk?
i had a teacher like that mrs. mattal 3rd grade. i bet they are both talking (about former students) together right now!
Born and raised on Oahu, grew up in the ocean, beaches all over Oahu, Maui and Kauai. The ocean is so unpredictable, real calm one minute and huge swells the next. In high school my gf and little bro almost died at Sharks Cove, huge sets came out of no where and swept them off the rocks. Fire dept saved them.
My girlfriend and I just got back from our firs trip to Hawaii and one of the places we were going to go initially was Sharks cove for snorkeling. I had us arriving there during low tide, and as soon as I saw it in person, I IMMEDITLY changed our plans based on how the water was coming in from that main point and how the rock formations were set up. I've been fishing for years on the open water (surf and jetties) and anyone with that experience can tell what's good and bad, and that right there was an automatic bad vibes spot for me having never been there before.
My brothers & I witnessed two boys die at sharks cove after getting sucked out by big waves. Scary my two older bothers where playing with the boys just before it happened. Growing up in Hawaii, we where always taught never to turn your back to the ocean.
Lava rocks, coral and changing tides can be deadly too.
I grew up along the Atlantic and was shocked by the difference in the power of the Pacific waves.
I almost drowned down in Huntington Beach in ca when I was 16. First time I learned how unpredictable the ocean is. With a group of friends swimming and they thought it would be cool to swim out as far as possible and dive under waves…I flagged down the lifeguards when I knew I was gonna die lol other girls didn’t even realize how far we got. Smh. Never again lol
I’ve lived here for 32 years, have worked on several tour boats. Absolute insanity sending those kids down into those pools. A bashing torture on those vana covered rocks. Completely reckless & unnecessary. RIP Tyler🙏💖🌺
Exactly what I was thinking, unbelievable...so called fun trumps common sense everytime, unfortunately!!!🙏😢🤔❣️
yoo same lived on oahu for 31 years i was born and raised. moved to utah to become a pilot but visist home alot
The guides should have known better :(
I grew up on the North shore of Oahu and theres no way I woulda jumped into those pools. Way too risky in high surf conditions. Very unpredictable.
I lived on the Big Island for 32 yrs. Worked on Capt. Zodiac & another private boat that went to this place Kealakekua Bay daily. Terrible decision to put those people in danger. It’s common sense. I can’t believe someone would allow it.
If anyone tells you to go into the "fun zone" beware.
Yeah sounds perverted too. Any reference at all to a fun zone in any context.. lol i agree - i say run away.
So sad what happened to Tyler very sad 😿😭😭 rest in peace 😭🕊️ in peace 🕊️✌️ Mr Tyler May your soul be in peace 🕊️✌️
That’s doesn’t even seem fun. It looks like suicide.
Tyler!! You’re alive!!
@MiSTR JT lol I noticed that too 😂
The saddest part of this is that what beach-goers fear most - being swept away into the ocean - is the best thing they can do when they're caught in rip tides or knocked over by big waves. If you know how to swim, you just have to go with the tide and get out past the surf zone where all the worst damage happens to your body. Then you just need to tread water/stay afloat until a rescue can be made. It's all the panic and struggling in the turbulence of the waves that kills people. Incredibly sad.
until the sharks get you, those locations are exactly where sharks are
@@real_wakawaka not every beach has sharks
@@real_wakawaka plus sharks don’t attack humans except in extremely rare cases
From the Gold Coast, Australia here. Rip tides are very common here but we are taught to swim parallel to the beach as most rips are very narrow. Swim parallel until you don't feel the outward pull then head back in to the beach.
@@real_wakawaka just be aware, dont splash or swim away, face the shark and lock your elbow and put your arm on their snout and direct them away to the side, when you touch the shark it will be able to "taste" you with the sensory nodes on its mouth and it will probably not feel the need to take a bite to see what you are. we arent apex predators but we are not their prey and we shouldnt act like it.
I’m a city boy, born and raised in NYC, same for my girlfriend at the time. We went to Puerto Rico and and got drunk one night and thought I’d be a good idea to swimming. And stupidity we did and we found a spot that was kinda like that. It wasn’t rough churning water though, but it had the rocks around it separating the lager ocean from this little pool area but the water outside the rocks was rough, just battering the outside rocks so we 2 dopey city kids figured we’re safe on the inside. Maaaan! We almost drowned. That water was just pulling us towards those rocks and we were swimming with everything we had to make it back to shore. My girlfriend said to me while we were trying to get to the shore that she can’t do it anymore and had to tell her “I can’t help you. If you don’t keep swimming you’re gonna die. If I try to help you we’re both gonna die”. She told me later that gave her the boost she needed. But MAN! that was scary. The ocean is nothing to play with. When we finally got to shore we just laid there with no strength left in either of us.
Swimming while drunk in a swimming pool is a bad idea. Swimming in the ocean while drunk is almost guaranteed death. You're lucky the ocean didn't claim you that night.
Very sad that you made it alive.
Nature is nothing to take lightly
Then she broke up with you
Swimming anywhere while drunk is a death sentence
Those bath tide pools look friggin terrifying! I wouldn't take adults there let alone children! What were they thinking! So sad he was never found. Rest in peace young man. Xx
Those rocks are also very, very sharp. It's not comfortable walking around or sitting in there even with calm waters.
@@chellesama8256 yeah I cannot imagine getting slammed against those jagged rocks, it’s basically a blender for humans that spits out the unconscious body into the ocean
In the short movies they show you see a little girl in a bathing suit juist standing next to the water.. people are crazy, nature is so strong.
They can be sneaky at low tide as the tide starts rising, especially if there's a swell coming in as the tide can rise really fast! We spent some time in the pools in southern Maui at low tide but as soon as the first wave got near the top of the cliff it was time to leave!
Fish food ❤
I grew up here and in the water all my life surfing and free diving and I’ve lost many friends to the ocean who were life long water men and woman. Never underestimate the power of the ocean. Always watch the timing of the swells, observe the current and surrounding area of where the water can reach and always look for the safest exit if anything should happen. Everywhere I go when traveling with others I bring my diving floats with a carabiner and a 200 ft marine cord attached, its helped in situations and is easy and lightweight to bring as a safety precaution. Be safe out there people and condolences to this boy’s family.
What are those diving floats? Do you have a link where to buy them?
Why he would take young kids to a dangerous spot like this is crazy. I am surprised more kids weren't hit. RIP Tyler.
I'm from Washington State, I've never been to Hawaii. I barely even been to the ocean. I definitely know not to go into one of those toilet bowl areas. common sense for any adult with a fully developed brain to be able to suss out what happens down there. those guides were ridiculously ignorant and I hope that they do prison time! I haven't finished watching tho, so I don't even know if they lived😮
The ocean in Washington is dangerous too. People don’t realize. I remember a woman getting knocked down by a sneaker wave when she was clamming and her husband couldn’t save her.
@@Pugetwitch This comment section is on fire and you might just have the best take out of all. I just can't figure out if you are genuine or satire.
@@LilyGazou it's one of the most treacherous coasts. have you ever been to Florida? I grew up traveling up and down the Pacific coasts, that being said, I'd hardly consider myself anything but a novice with regards to the ocean, especially in contrast with somebody who grew up on the islands or on the sea.
Because he's essentially a kid too
This story is heartbreaking. Having lived on Kauai for over 20 yrs, I’ve spent much time on the Big Island hiking and enjoying champagne ponds. Never these coastal baths! Anyone who lives in Hawaii knows never to go near these.
We have scolded many tourists that wander out onto the coastal lava rock outcrops to get that perfect vaca pic, as we have watched families drag their kids out there to then have massive waves crashing on them putting them in serious danger. I’ve seen several people in near death situations. It’s crazy.
Knowing this detour was devised by someone who grew up on the island is infuriating. And criminal, IMO.
Aww RIP champagne ponds
We have a saying here in Hawaii, "no matter what, never turn your back towards the ocean!" That saying goes a long way for many generations since we know that the water can turn on you in a split second and/or when u think it's calm: there can be sudden destruction! Most Nativr Hawaiians are fishes, since we live, and breathe, ocean (metaphorically speaking). But we also know that we must respect the ocean simply because the ocean can be unforgiving and unpredictable! For example: I am aware that even though the the weather may appear to be clear and sunny, and the water may appear to be calm and inviting: the majority of our waters can have strong "currents" underneath which is dangerous! The strategy is to stay calm and "go w/the flow" even if that means it may take you out a 100ft and/or may suck you under, you must keep calm since u r not in control, once u r out of it then u float or doggie paddle a because the more you panic, the less of a chance you have to survive! So I would normally test the waters by throwing in something light to see what will happen or take a few steps in while staying close to the shoreline! Eh I've seen strong swimmers, who can literally hold their breath long term and lose their lives! So please don't take the risk and think smart because it can cost u your life!
Look what happened to brada Eddie Aikau
And yet it's so hard to not panic when you're panicking.
@@kendawg8085 Eddie would go. 🌸ALOHA🌸
When ive gotten dumped by a wave its always when swimming back to shore. I forget the waves coming behind me.
So its true when you are in the ocean as well! Swim back to shore facing the ocean
You are so right.. 30 years ago this happened to me.. my instinct just said let go.. I did and it took hours but I got back. The ocean was, and is my master teacher and my guide.
I still live in Hawaii and enjoy the ocean, still learning🙏🏽🌋🌊Rest and peace to you Tyler.
I am a native of hawaii born and raised here for over 40 years and the visitors here do NOT know how extreme the ocean is and alot of them don't abide by the signs that are put up and they end up hurt or dead its tragic.
In this case it was a native of Hawaii who led these kids to where one of them eventually died!
Yep!!! Same here. Always check the weather and never turn your back on the ocean
Same shit in Australia.
We even have a show called Bondi Rescue that is basically life guards at Bondi beach rescue dumb tourists and bogans while we mock them.
I noticed the sign in the film. Am surprised an actual company would ignore the sign and lead kids in.
Most 20-something year olds are kids themselves. Trusting them is stupid.
yeah the trusting them part 100% won't trust them with my life not even a 20 year old KING David. Love you King David one after God's own heart.
Yes it is the companies fault for not hiring the proper TRAINED individuals and paying them accordingly. They were cutting corners to line their own pockets as most corporations do (greed). They should have had an age minimum of 30 and made damn sure those people knew what they were doing. And paid them well for it. They were greedy and careless so they hired children to watch over other children, paying them chicken scratch and not bothering to do proper training or background checks. I hope Tylers parent's sued the living crap out of that company.
@@reesedaniel5835 when you only pay peanuts, you get monkeys
Well, some 20-somethings are pretty smart, but most still have the teenager sense that they are immortal and that bad things happen to other people, not them. So they are not the best judge of risks.
This must be by design. Schools teach made up fantasy, and child labor laws keep young people out of workforce. Men can't learn real life skills, and can't start families crashing the population. Smart parents probably train kids in the family business illegally.
I was a life guard for several years and have always been a strong swimmer. But one day I was caught in a rip current that completely pulled me under. If my brother hadn’t have been near to me to pull me up I would have drown. One of the scariest days of my life.
They don't put that on TH-cam.
I grew up in the ocean in Southern California and I was not ready for the power of the ocean in Hawaii. It took me by surprise and humbled me.
RIP Tyler. As a parent sending your kid on a plane and never seeing them again is crazy.
My kids in the military and that's absolutely true.
Janna, that is horrific, what a terrible path to see someone take after raising someone all those years.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969wow well that’s just your opinion. It probably meant a lot to the kid. It’s rough how you care more about how you feel than how your kid would feel about chasing their dreams.
The kid just exists to make you happy right! You should just put it in a bubble and keep it next to you on the couch so you can always be happy!!
SMH.
@@holidayarmadillo8653 calm tf down it ain't that deep
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This makes me feel better about my husband and i’s mild Hawaii vacation. Ate good food, hung out on some cool beaches, got in the water just a smidge. Went to nature centers and stayed on the trails.
I was there in that exact same spot a day after this happened. They actually had a park ranger there telling us to stay back n even being within 10 feet of those blow holes it can suck you in. Hawaii is absolutely beautiful. Its also absolutely dangerous as hell. If u have never felt lava rock, u have no idea the pain and injuries just falling down on ur own can cause, now imagine hundreds, or thousands of pounds of force just picking u up as the water swells and slamming u down as it recedes. I remember the waves that month in Hawaii were the largest waves Hawaii had experienced in over 50 years. I saw 60 foot waves plenty of times while i was there and the waves were a constant 40 feet every time one broke. Obviously every different part of the islands experience totally different surf. The day after this wen i was in that spot, the blow holes were shooting water 35 feet in the air. Always act accordingly.
What makes lava rock different than regular rock? I can guess that it hasn't fully cooled down into a solid and can pop if enough force is applied? Then wouldn't you see lava flow around the area?
Get plenty different kinds of lava rock look um up. Smooth, porous, sharp etc.
@@kosmosXcannon Lava rocks near the ocean from recent deposits are generally very sharp and will easily cut into your skin.
@@kosmosXcannonimagine the force of ocean waves repeatedly pulverising your body against razor blade like rocks until you either drown, crack your head open or bleed out (or a combination of all 3).
Lava rock is probably just as painful as barnacles. When i was younger my feet hands arms and legs were covered in razor slices and blood everywhere 😮 from walking on and falling on rocks with those little creatures
If you see the ocean washing roughly over rocks and can't "recognize the risks" then do yourself a favor and just stay away from the ocean altogether. It should be obvious that it's a dangerous activity and if you aren't aware that the ocean is powerful you have no business anywhere near it, regardless of what you can afford.
While this is true I still wouldn't be blaming high school kids for listening to who they thought were supposed to be trustworthy adults and mentors with experience. They might have had these thoughts themselves but being encouraged by the wrong people could easily dissuade their better conscience.
I grew up in lake county and moved to a seaside town for some years. I realized that I did not understand the ocean and went in very rarely and not far. At a guarded beach, lifeguards on duty. There were drownings every summer. Many tourists went into the water in the evening.
I feel so sorry for his family, and suppose one can only hope he was knocked unconscious, and that it happened quickly, so that he wasn't just paralysed by fear/disbelief.
Jep..
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I would have preferred that he was NOT knocked unconscious and was instead able to climb out of that pit
The sad thing is, he DID climb out and jumped back in to help save the other kids in the pool. @@drdrew3
@@drdrew3well that didn’t happen so being real OP comment is fair
Not sure I can finish this, I'm already so pissed. But that's why I would never trust sending my kid off on a vacation so far away if I wasn't there to watch them myself, bc for all the promises of safety first, they ended up letting a criminal take those kids to the most dangerous spot they could find!
So this was something interesting for me to stumble upon on one of my favourite channels. One of the clips used of Queen’s Bath here was a video my father posted to TH-cam of someone being knocked doff a 40 - 60’ high cliff face by a giant wave in Kauai, Hawaii (with that section being removed for obvious reasons). The video is called “Queen’s Bath Rescue” posted by Andrew if anyone wants to look it up. I’ll dive a bit into the story to show you just how unexpectedly powerful Mother Nature is in Hawaii. Just getting into Kauai on that day, my father and I decided to take a walk down to Queen’s Bath (not so much a walk as it was a muddy slide down a mountain slope. We wanted to see what we could see before the incoming tropical storm impacted the island. We made it down to the rocky cliff sides of Queen’s Bath and my father, being the man to record everything, was taking this footage while I, mindful of the situation and the waves power, was taking in the views at a distance making sure to keep the posted life preserver locations in mind. About 30 -40 ft away was a man just by himself standing on the cliffs edge. At that time it just so happened to only be the 3 of us in that section. A series of 3 waves struck as shown in the full video before the strength of the last wave pushed upwards from the cliff and to force of the water knocked the man off balance and pulled him off the edge of the cliff. At that point, my father lowered his camera to stop recording while yelling “Oh sh*t, he went in! He went in!” at me. At that point, already being anxious from the situation, grabbed the life preserver and timed the next few waves to toss it out to him. I then had to run full tilt over the jagged rocks to find other tourists around that may happen to have cell service as the beach is fairly remote. In this time, the man had tried to swim closer to shore (which you should not do if you ever end up in the water off a cliff side. Swim out as you are more likely to be battered against the razor sharp lava rocks) and other tourists that came upon the scene were all yelling at him to swim out. Once I finally was able to find someone with cell service the fire department was informed of the situation and sent a jet ski around from nearby (being still 20 minutes away). After a series of frantic directional pointing towards the man by everyone who had joined us at that point, the jet ski was able to locate him in the tall waves and subsequently pick him up from there. I still hold that deep fear for looking at waves from a cliff side and my father, to this day, says that was by far the stupidest danger he’s ever put me in. I hope that man rescued wasn’t too beat up by the drop and I hope he is doing well. Thanks for the read if you stayed this long. It was very interesting seeing the footage used here.
Incredible! Thank you for sharing that story :)
Really incredible! Thanks for sharinf
That hike was the worst when it was wet.. your right it was almost easier to slide down forget about sandals. I made a walking stick and left it up top for someone else to use after me
@@MrDeified Locals beg and plead for tourists to not go down to Queens Bath, my friends home is right there, they ignore him, ignore the signs, hop the gates when its up, bring kids, bring infants, come back up with one or more less family members or friends. Nothing we can do to stop the reality, some come to Hawaii to die.
@@cwired9407 it’s true. Sadly. I have witnessed the scene you describe too many times to count. No matter how much they were warned by us, Parents taking their kids to areas like this, then when the wave sets pummel them, they’re clawing their way back over jagged lava, bleeding from their hands, elbows, knees, and feet as each wave does more damage. But they still don’t listen as you beg them to swim out away from the pound zone.
Many beach days ruined, as we watch helplessly, encourage and ultimately becoming part of their near death vacation story.
As a parent, sending a teenager on a group trip with other teenagers to a very dangerous island in the care of a company, who's sole purpose is to make money is wild.
Even just a group of teen boys is a risky idea. I used to work in Emergency Rooms, and there was an old, staff-only joke that some injuries are referred to as “testosterone poisoning,” like a fractured arm after riding a shopping cart down some stairs, or doing a cartwheel thru a bonfire to impress others at a party.
It is pretty clear that young men take more risks in groups, to the point many states don’t let teens drive with other teens for a while after getting their license.
Nope nope and nope....just because you have the money to afford something like this does not make it right. No way would I send one of my kids with a bunch of teenagers and adults that I don't know to do something like this for 21 days! No way....
Agreed.
AND ITS 4500 LIKE REALLY, I WOULD'VE HAD TO BE A VOLUNTEER I CAN OT BE THAT FAR AWAY FROM MY BBY IDC IDC IM JUST NOT !!! BETTERR SAFE THAN SORRY !!!
Every company operates to make money……
Under-25s leading a group of teenagers on an adventure trip? What could possibly go wrong. 😳😱😠
My freshman year in high school, there was a male student who had suffered an accident while on a summer abroad trip, the summer before his senior year. I don’t remember the exact details, but something about a balcony mixed with alcohol and no parental supervision.
He ended up paralyzed from the waist down. I think of him from time to time. As a parent now, I cannot imagine sending my kids on these kind of trips. I understand the parents mean well, what a nightmare. But, all too often you hear horror stories from these unsupervised trips.
Very true. As a parent I hope to teach my children how to think through situations. Problem is most parents either are uninvolved with their childrens development and leave raising them to the school (who also has over a thousand kids to think about) or they helicopter and don’t let they’re kids learn how to make good decisions on their own.
that sounds similar to trevor moores death, i believe he was drinking on a balcony and fell off and died
I consider myself a bit of a thrill seeker, but there's no way im getting in a "bath" surrounded by unpredictable waves and jagged rocks. Rip Tyler
Never trust adults over your gut survival instinct, children have it by default, but adults can unlearn it.
A few yrs back, a Chicago suburban HS water polo team visited Hawaii. The kids were all great swimmers and they jumped in the shorebreak at Waimea and one drowned. Apparently you can't trust HS officials when they take a team somewhere to have any common sense with your kids. Ask any Hawaiian and they will tell you NEVER to swim in the Waimea shorebreak.
Sad! They trusted these people with their kids and they just didn’t take it serious. My heart goes out to the parents and students. So sad
My girlfriend and I just got back from our first trip to Hawaii, and if there is one thing i can say to first timers; RESEARCH WHERE YOUR GOING AND IF IT FEELS UNSAFE, IT IS!
We hired guides, we asked a lot of questions, and anything that looked harsh on our own we avoided. Even some of the most basic/intermidate hikes of the island (koko head comes to mind) are full of dangers/pitfalls that can lead to serious life threatning injuries/death with one small miss step.
Be safe out there everyone and RIP Tyler.
No need to brag about girlfriend.
I've lived near the ocean long enough to know you don't mess with it because it will pretty much always win. Very sad too see people be led into such a situation.
Don't forget the unknown subteranian lava tubes that sometimes open up, a few years ago a professor who lived in Hawaii was doing yard work and fell in one that was hidden on his property and by the time his friend realized that he had missed their lunch plans and alerted the authorities it was too late.
Your narration is so much better on this one!! So so so happy to hear you sounding more natural & genuine rather than trying to put on a creepy/exciting voice. This was such a sad one - I'm looking forward to you continuing to improve and keep sharing these heartbreaking stories.
Thanks for that 👌
Since you brought it up. Pretty good, but if you want to seriously pursue this, some study of elocution. Heard did-dent, and tha ocean. Better soundingr is thee ocean. There was another tha spot too.
You should do how many people die on hiking trails here. I had been hiking Ka’au crater forever and didn’t think of it as a dangerous hike. Until I fell 80 feet and almost left this world. Then upon digging further online saw how many deaths there are.
I live in Ka’u near south point, you should know when you enter the ocean you are on your own. The breaks can be relentless. I’ve been picked up and tossed onto the rocks a couple times. It can be scary as hell especially if you are not used to it
Same live in OV. Ocean is pretty creepy.
I got rag dolled once in San Clemente. My boyfriend at the time told me to try surfing his short board on waves that were a probably up to my elbow, maybe shoulder. The nose of the board got caught under the surface as soon I stood on my very first real wave (this was the second or third time I'd surfed total, the other times were on a long board on very mushy, small waves). I got caught in a set of 5 waves total, the first three messed me up so bad and I could only get a couple gasps of air in between each one before getting hammered again. The first two straight up broke on top of me, with only maybe 2 feet of water as padding. I remember feeling like I was in a washing machine made of sand paper; was shocked at how heavy the water was, it hurt so much. After the fourth wave, which was a lot softer, tossed me around I started to make peace with that I was going to drown. Just decided if it's going to happen it's going to happen, I couldn't keep trying to swim spinning around like that, feeling crushed and then get only 3 breaths max. But I tried my hardest to duck dive the 5th one and managed to not get so tossed around. I then pulled my board by the leash, climbed on and paddled out past where the waves begin to shape and sat there on shivering. My boyfriend eventually paddled over- he had no clue what happened to me, because he'd caught a wave and surfed away right before everything went down. I was super upset with him but he told me he thought I'd be fine, since I'm brave. I could have easily died and no one would have had a clue til it was too late. To this day I have zero interest in surfing, aside from long boarding on tiny waves.
As a parent, hearing the details of this "adventure trip for teens" all i hear in my head is...."Gee, what could go wrong. "
These trips are extremely popular around the world. Most are a safe and memorable adventure. I went on such a trip and now both my kids have as well. Knowing there are unscrupulous operators didn’t prevent me from the experience. Just made sure the kids knew their limits and made good choices
my mom would never have let me go in hgih school especially that price, now me as a mom I wouldn't either unless I could be nearby.
Tourists need to understand the dangers of exploring Hawaii. Every year people die or get injured. Yes it's beautiful here, but it can be deceptive. Definitely need to show respect for the ocean. Guides were idiots too.
@Concretecoffee 🤙🏽
No sense teach or tell them brada they no listen to us they figure they spend big money to come here or my favorite this is America I can do whatever I want gtfoh
@@kendawg8085 not all of us are like that I promise 😭💕
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I don’t know my whole life I live here nothing changed with tourists thinking they ignore the signs and do what they like since the beginning of the missionary days they treated Hawai’i like one playground then America came and got greedy and think they more better than us go figure
@@kendawg8085 no totally I can see where you’re coming from and I respect it, I’m sure that’s incredibly frustrating! I’m just saying that there are americans who don’t subscribe to the idea of tourism as a whole and are generally nice, well behaved people. You just wouldn’t know it because they’re not the ones that stick out! I’m sorry about all the shitty tourists though, I know they only see Hawai’i as their perfect little vacation spot and don’t recognize it for what it is or acknowledge the history and culture of Pacific Islanders, it is truly sad! Just don’t lose all faith I promise that we can beat the ignorance together
We hiked up to Queen's Bath in Kauai to go swimming/snorkeling when I was about 13 years old. As soon as we got there, my mom refused to let us get anywhere close. The waves didn't look that bad, but we knew from being whitewater rafters that looks can be deceiving. It was still worth the hike. It was beautiful, we watched the turtles living their best lives and got to see something you can't fund in landlocked Colorado. By the time we were getting ready to leave, the waves were really crashing. Water is unforgiving. Sadly, too many people seem to forget this.
I was 20 once, and 20 isnt a mature age at all for a guide in charge of so many young teens in a dangerous place with sharp lava rocks, sharks, and bone crushing waves. Its obvious that the guides judgement was severely affect by his age. Some men mature at diffrent ages, and I didnt fully grow up into a responsible adult until I was 35.
Agree. Your frontal lobe isn’t developed fully till 25. 20 year olds should not be in charge of children. RIP Tyler, I’m so sorry for his death x
I totally agree with you so in 2019 I went out to Florida for a vacation and you know as a man I rent a JetSki‘s and I decided to go far out at one moment I decided to see how fast the JetSki was so I started ripping it back-and-forth in a matter of seconds, while I was going 77 mph The ocean dipped right under me, and I was airborne for aboutfive seconds as soon as I hit ,the water broke my nose, eyesocket cheekbone and fractured my lower jaw never did I think, falling into water what caused that much damage. The l shoreline was way too far and anyone who’s been to Florida knows about shepherds. The pain was excruciating as a floating in the water adrenaline rushing. Next thing I noticed was a pool of blood forming around me. I automatically started to panic. And looking for the JetSki, the more I thought to swim the farther away you got from me at one point I just gave up and decided to flow backwards and wait for my demise or someone to rescue me at that exact moment, I realized I can actually Get momentum If I backstroke . At this point my adrenaline is running high. All I can think about is sharks smelling blood in which that gave me enough strength to make it back on the JetSki. I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy. Once I reach the short, I just drove straight into the sand and everybody started freaking out. I was alreadycalm, so I sat on the chair and asked for ice and a towel. As everyone ran in circles, I walked up to the Bar that shepherds hotel owns. As soon as the bartender seen me, she fainted. I had a couple people help me out with the ice. Tell me to sit down as I waited for an ambulance. Today I have a scar on top of my eyelid, one running down my cheek because I had to get a plate put in my cheekbone and my jaw wired. I’m OK today though when it’s too cold my face hurts and my eye starts to twitch so I have made it my mission to show people pictures of my face Along with my story Hoping people use it as a learning experience. Hod bless to those who have make it out alive from a horrible accident
Damn sad story but that’s what happens when a group of teens and a couple of young adults go into the wilderness unsupervised by an actual adult they tend to do stupid things and end up winning stupid prizes it’s everyone and no one’s fault
This happens a lot in Oregon as well. Our coast looks similar and is as rugged in many places. The difference is the temperature of the water. It’s so cold here. People drown all the time being swept away by a breaker or a sneaker wave. It’s so sad and easily avoided. Most locals here know never to swim in one of those sucker holes.
We’ve got a place near Tillamook. So many friends/family who visit don’t seem to believe me when I tell them how dangerous the ocean is here. I pull up articles and videos about sneaker waves and that usually does the trick
In the late 70ds me and my brothers went to Lincoln city . We were waste high in the water. This huge wave came in and knocked us over. I got drug out in the ocean about 100 feet. I was skidding and bouncing on sand as I was being towed out to sea. When everything stopped I popped up to the surface and I was way past the breakers. I was a good swimmer but it took a little bit to get back to shore. That was a rip tied and one hell of a ride.
I was a kid in Eugene when those students got swept off the rocks, I remember my teacher sobbing bc she knew them, we were raised with beach rules as strict as gun rules. NEVER turn your back on the ocean, ALWAYS assume there is a rip and that sneaker waves are present. The ocean is life and death, safety should always come before fun.
I almost drowned when I was little. There was this large boulder a little ways from the shore. Little me didn't understand that the ocean likes to pull out sand around big rocks. Had it not been for a stranger watching as I approached the rock, I wouldn't be alive today.
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Its astounding how powerful the waves are in Hawaii, that you dont expect. I was standing in knee deep water on Kauai, and was knocked down by a wave
that's because there's no Continental Shelf, even a small wave is powerful.
I went a small beach that was considered a beginner beach and was knocked over a few times. I was in some shock too
I SPENT 23 DAYS IN HAWAII BACK IN 2007, WENT TO ALL 4 ISLANDS, I WAS BY MYSELF AND DID A LOT OF FUN STUFF, BUT I ALSO MITIGATED THE RISK AND DANGERS AND THAT'S WHY I'M ALIVE TIL THIS DAY, MITIGATE THE DAMN RISK, NOBODY IS INVINCIBLE
People need to remember. When adventuring in nature, nature does not play fair. And she will
Always Win. When you want to be adventurous, you should assume that adventure could be your last.
I lived in Kauai. The tourists went missing and then mostly died later. It is very dangerous to travel by oneself especially some attraction area, such as the queen bath, Grand Canyon, Nepali coast trail. I worked at the restaurant, and I would often see my nonlocal haole customers get broken limbs or huge cuts on them. They didn't get it from the fights, but that is from just them exploring the island. We would hear the siren all the time since we're very small island and get really bad traffics.
I went to Kiahuna Beach on south Kauai in Sept 2012, and even though the Google reviews say this beach doesn't have currents to worry about, I was swimming about 150 feet or so from the beach and I tried to swim back to shore but felt I wasn't getting anywhere. It was really scary, but then I swam really hard and was able to get back to shore. Obviously it wasn't a strong current or I probably wouldn't be here typing this, since I'm not a strong swimmer and didn't know you're supposed to swim parallel to the beach to get out of a current.
Despicable. Really hope the "guides" faced jail time and I hope everyone involved in the failed chain of leadership got the pants absolutely sued off them.
Actually the people who HIRED these "guides" should be faced with jail time.
Been all over the big island and as amazed at how dangerous so many of the beautiful beaches were. As a scuba diver trained in rips and such there was no way I was going to go into the water in those locations
I lived there, went to that area often. Anyone who lives there knows there are occasional rogue waves, and those waves are monstrous, along with the jagged lava, I am surprised the locals weren't more careful. We spent many long hours out on the lava floes, number 1 rule is, do not turn your back on the ocean!!
Heartbreaking. I cannot imagine what the family went through.
Never mess with the ocean
Hawaii is no joke. I've been to the big island a few times, and there are areas that are super-tourist friendly and relatively safe, but that gives people the impression that the entire island is like that.
We walked to the famous green sand beach on the southern tip, but were way unprepared for that trek. Although there are marked trails, it's a 3 mile hike (one way) from the parking lot, and it's entirely across open sandy/rocky hills with no protection from the sun. Once you get to the beach, taking a dip in the water sounds nice, but the beach is in a bay that funnels the surf into it. The waves can EASILY knock you down, and if you manage to stay standing, the resulting undertow will almost certainly knock you off your feet. I was incredibly surprised just how strong the undertow was; it's like being in a river where the current is rushing by at like 30 miles an hour. And after all that, you still got the 3 mile hike back to your car.
Such a sad tragic story. I feel like in our modern world we have everything so bubble-wrapped and safety-capped so kids will never be in any danger, then you throw in the thrills of video games, movie stunts and crazy adrenaline theme park rides... you have a lot of people looking for these thrills, yet also conditioned to have absolutely no concept there could even be any real danger. They see this stuff on their social feeds everyday. But this wasn't a theme park - this was Mother Nature.
Parents say all that and think video games and social media are the problem, but they won’t let their kid do anything that has even a small chance of injury.
Seeing the footage of the Queen's Bath. Yeah that sure looks like a good place to take the kids...
Yea.... if you want them to die.
All the footage is from Queens bath in Kauai . Been several times you must check the ocean conditions first.
Similar conditions exist on the 2nd biggest island in Samoa 🇼🇸. It’s called Savaii The lava fields are deadly and tourism to the fields is closed. There is no active volcano or lava flows, but you absolutely cannot travel safely over these areas ESPECIALLY near the ocean edge. One slip and you’re gone.
Samoa 🇼🇸 is the true Jurassic park. It’s magnificent 🤩
they also make pretty good cookies
Great as always, thank you!
How tragic ! RIP Tyler, and condolences to his family !
I notice that a lot of the comments are about how visitors to Hawaii don't have a clue about the dangers and die every year, however this particular death was caused by at least one guide who was not a "visitor" but a local, who still apparently was unaware of the danger he was getting his charges into. Why? To be cool? Maybe. By the way, what happened to that guy in that one pool that kept getting huge waves going over him? He was in a huge pool, but it looked like so much water that he was probably in trouble, but not a word in the video about him. But the beginning of the video talking about how the "guide" companies treat everybody should be a warning to everybody, including parents, that your kid may not come back from their adventure, simply because of a guide's decision. But I'm sure that most parents will continue to send their kids off to the adventure of a lifetime without even knowing about this kid.
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I was watching some hip hop documentary on a group of new york drill rappers who didn't know who immortal technique even was, and talking shit about his name.... lol.
Like these kids have the dumbest rap names.
They all have some kind of acronym for their names
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Growing up in Hawaii, and being kanaka maoli. Sometimes you can’t fight the water and you just gotta go into the open ocean because in the end you’ll have a better chance rather than fighting the waves and lava rocks. It’s sad to say. But you waste a lot of energy, and if you don’t have the patience, energy, or timing. It can be a lot for even experienced swimmers. Be careful out here guys. Sometimes the views are more than enough.
It’s heartbreaking 💔 they never found their sons body. As a mother, I’m not sure if I could ever leave Hawaii… I’d feel like I was abandoning my child (there was nothing they could do though). I really hope Tyler’s parents and family are doing well and focusing on their family.
This event is a mothers worst nightmare and I hope new rules and regulations were implemented. It would be AWFUL if it were to ever happen again!
Took them to Queen's Bath? Really? Idiots! Why did they take the kids there. I hope they got their just punishment! I am Native and know better! DANGEROUS AREA! To anyone from abroad who visits here in Hawaii LEARN the dangers of our ocean safety hazards here. Beautiful, bit can turn dangerous on a split second. Condolences to his family, and others who were affected. If you don't see the locals in the area , it's a red flag.
Nolan should have KNOWN better! There are reasons why Queen's bath should be left alone.
🔥 I always teach my kid about critical thinking. Don't obey or follow without your own conclusion; don't be afraid to say NO.
You are a very VERY rare and good parent.
Great knowledge as a parent 💯🙌🙌🙌
People die every year at lake Erie and Michigan who are locals and are good swimmers, they still get dragged by the undertow....its heartbreaking...the ocean has powers far surpassing a fresh water lake
Hawaii is not A place to fool around with, ITS one badass place.
One of my closest friends and one that I've had for many years, maybe the one I've had for the longest time at this point of my life, died by drowning a few weeks ago while going to the beach, strong waves with the tide swept him into open waters, he had no chance so this story stuck with me.
I've never heard about these spots in Hawaii before, but sound like what nightmares are made of, and I've had many nightmares about being dragged to open waters while swimming and drowning.
I don't get why Tyler's body was never recovered though, what exactly happened for it to be unrecoverable? Did it just get swept to far away in open waters?
Most likely. A lot of bodies that get lost in the ocean are either eaten by animals or are lost at sea.
My friend's son was swept out from Makapuu Beach. Despite divers, drones, and scores of volunteers searching the shoreline, he was never found. Lots of currents and underwater caves bodies can get lodged into.
Water is by far one of the most powerful forces on earth. That little guy was swept out into the ocean and with rip tides and other things his body could literally be stuck in one area for days. Then there are sharks and other fish that will eat them it is just food to them. Sad to say. This is why I have a healthy respect for bodies of water any size.
@@Kevan808 I'm sorry to hear that! That's awful poor baby! All the stories about children break my heart.
The only difference between an island and a ship at sea is that the island is fixed in place... The sea still flows around it. You can go ahead and disregard that lesson in High School Physics class where they explain how ocean waves don't mean the water's moving. While the physics IS true, that water is also 100% MOVING 100% of the time. It never stops. It's either rushing hard and fast or flowing slow and steady.
SO once a body's dragged out into it, you're running further and further behind with every passing minute. You're not just searching for it. You're chasing after what you can't even yet find!
It's not so surprising, then, just how many people vanish utterly without a trace from islands... ANY islands, for the matter... and are never EVER seen again. It's even kind of surprising we manage to recover as many as we do. ;o)
I'm studying to become a guide. I don't know how I could cope if I guided young people in their doom.
That’s sounds like another story of a tour company putting money over life. That tour guide should be in jail for murder.
How sad and terrifying I grew up on the oceans 🌊 and I’m terrified of the power and danger of the ocean , I was injured when I was 25 in a simple boogie boarding accident I was almost paralyzed and still have chronic hip pain
Scary how tourists think hawaii is like a disneyland ride
you can literally lean off some cliffs drop a single rock and watch tiger sharks swarm.
bro what? it wasn’t their fault lmao a local led them there
So, it’s not like Disneyland?
What did the Hawaiian local paddle guides think
@@ivymeola6532 yet more people die from falling coconut 🥥
I've never been to Hawaii but I'm from a state that has dangerous rivers. Because they don't look dangerous people jump right in. Visitors don't realize we mean it when we post warnings. Being able to swim doesn't help if you get pulled under. There's no telling where your body will end up. Chuck Morris of the band Lotus and his son died here this year while kayaking. It took 24 days to find them.
I love HI, when you visit there, you gotta RESPECT nature and the locals...and FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS, it's there for a damn reason. 🌋 🌊
Tragic story that could have been avoided. 😢on a side note, Mr. D- your narration style seems to be getting more natural and you’re doing a great job with these videos! You should do a face reveal when you hit 100K subscribers!
here's a valuable life saving tip: don't trust anybody you don't personally know.
that's all for today kids, i won't even charge you $4500, it's free advice and will last you a long life.
A large percentage of violent crimes and murders are committed by people known to the victim. But generally I agree with your advice.
Training is crucial. At 14 you can take an Junior Life Saving Class
At 16 a Senior life Saving class and at 18 Advanced class which teaches how to rescue a person from rip tides and earning skills to work as a Life Guard and qualified Water Safety Instructor. The most lesson I learned was not to panic. This has saved my life many times.
Those baths look so scary. I can't imagine anyone wanting to jump into that. Wow. Sad story.
I almost lost my stupid sister on the North Shore of Oahu. I call her stupid because she was warned multiple times by me AND lifeguards. Signs as well. There were tide pools, lava rock, and waves. We grew up on a coastline and spent alot of time at the beach. My Dad always made sure he talked to us about currents, riptides, wave sets, etc. So she also KNEW BETTER. She wanted to frolick in the tide pools. The lifeguards told her, and others, to get away because it is dangerous. They were also standing on lava rocks that were on the outside lip of the tide pools. I was standing at a safe distance where i was allowed to be just taking photos with my new camera. She called my name. I pointed the camera at her just in time to see a big wave crash down on top of her and she disappeared. Thankfully when the wave pushed her forward across the tide pool a man grabbed her and she wasnt sucked out. They told me that they wouldn't have been able to get to her because there was an empty area under the lip of that rock shelf and people got su ked into that cave like void underneath and they cant be saved. She was definitely cut up pretty good from the lava rock and had the rest of our 2 week vacation to think on her bad behavior. It was only our second day of vacation so she was pretty sore and scabby for the rest of our trip. It scared me really bad when the wave went back and she was nowhere to be seen. I thought it had taken her. It was so fast and forceful that i didn't see her get washed past me. Those waves come in sets. Just because you walk up somewhere and the waves aren't coming up big doesn't mean the next set wont. They come from different directions in some places because of currents too. I have no idea why anybody would tell a bunch of kids to jump in there. Thats definitely negligence and indifference. The tour guides look like teens themselves. No way i would trust soneone else with my kid like that. Not even a 40 year old let alone a 20 year old. You dont know them even. You are sending your kid to strangers in another state. No way. There's a long list of things that could go wrong. Whether by accident or intentional.
Tyler’s mother taught at the middle school I went to. Sadly, she passed away a few years ago from cancer.
Mrs Madoff is a long time friend of my family, I’m sure she would find comfort that her students are still thinking of her. Her battle with cancer was truly horrific to watch, and she died ready to see her son again. We all keep turquoise items all over the house in memory of her and her favorite color.
This is scary, just looking at the water it gets me nervous. i can’t imagine how they felt. my condolences for the fam
So many people die by panicking in the ocean, when you are in a bad situation although very difficult need to control your emotions. Panicking saps your energy and makes it very very difficult to hold your breathe for any length of time. Respect the Ocean, even if you are a good swimmer it doesn’t matter if you have little knowledge about waves and cannot keep calm.
I’ve never felt less safe than when I was in South Africa, it was amazing though .
I'll never stop watching your videos my friend.
I will never understand why parents sue saying it isn't about MONEY but getting the truth out and then settling for an undisclosed amount and an NDA so the truth is kept secret, make that make sense? Never send your kids off on something like this and nothing but 20 something year old making these kind of decisons.
I’m sure the parents had in mind that the tour guide company would keep them save and out of harms why and not put them in it. That’s what they paid the money to the company.
Because at what point do you let it rest? It would be hard to spend years in litigation over the death of a child, most people would probably accept a settlement to begin putting it behind them.
I can't believe they told them to go in it. What was their plan if someone got sucked out to ocean? Sure it could be fun if everything goes right.... but there's no guarantee so why take chance. The toilet bowl looks so scary and I can't believe they saw it fill up and then get low and they went in it!
I’m good with staying home
I surf in this beach called Maresias, very famous beach here in Brazil for surfers… the most dangerous days are always the ones when the sea is calm, people tends to think that a calm sea is totally safe, but the place is full of currents… a lot of people had die there… people need to respect the ocean
Unbelievably incompetent "Guides" should be in prison for this family's loss. Absolutely unnecessary.
i grew up on the oregon coast. I would be horrified to stand on a rock getting splashed by waves. The thought of swimming around in that "fun zone" is outrageous.
I've been on a trip with high school kids in Europe. Don't ever send your children on a trip with a stranger who is supposed to supervise them.
I was at Fort DeSoto out past the sandbar a couple of years ago and a family of Mom, Dad, a toddler, and what looked like Grandma were standing at the waters’ edge. The mother told the toddler that “The ocean is our friend!”. I was thinking how stupid she was because the ocean is NOT your friend and she shouldn’t have been telling the child that! “Yes, lady, swim on out as far as you can and then tell me how friendly you found it”. If the ocean didn’t kill her a shark probably would have!
Another excellent episode of a very tragic and unnecessary event, thank you Sir!!!🙏😢🤔❣️
The group wanted to play in the pools. But that day, the sea said No. RIP to Tyler.
If the waves don’t kick your a$$ the locals will
As YT videos like this came to my attention, I am so glad my family was not rich. I had to get a full time job and support myself immediately after high school. No exotic trips, thank you.
Tragedy doesn't distinguish between social cleasses.
@@amazonariver1969 Ooh, you figured that out all by yourself? No, but the point was that there was not enough money to subsidize trouble abroad, like Otto Warmbier, whose parents will never take responsibility for indulging his whim to visit North Korea.
As a mom of 4, my youngest set to graduate in just 2wks, I can’t fathom the pain Tyler’s mother endured 🥺 His father & entire family 💔 R.I.P. Tyler 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Along with trying to live a challenging and exciting life comes the possibilities of dangers which make it exciting and challenging.