Studio One: Low Latency Monitoring - Blue Z vs Green Z
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video, Marcus Huyskens speaks about the different Low Latency Monitoring options in available in Studio One 3.5 and above. He also demonstrates the key differences between using the Hardware Direct (Blue Z) Low Latency Monitoring vs Native Low Latency Monitoring (Green Z).
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Fantastic workflow for recording live instruments and vocals! Hope to get Studio 192 any time futher! Thank you Marcus for education!
RME Hdspaio Pci Express allows the low latency monitoring feature, just to let you know it guys. Is an old card but it works flawlessly today. Better then the most cards or interfaces under 1000€. Thanks for the video Markus, just what i was looking for for a newbie with studio one!
This video was so important to my understanding. I'm glad you didn't rush it. I actually plan on watching it through a second time to make sure the concepts stick. It wasn't "long-winded" at all!
Love your work. Much appreciated.
I have the studio 192 and I'm still learning about it and about Studio ONE. I couldn't get any of those "Z"s to show up until I messed around with the "Dropout Protection" options in the Processing tab. I think it must have reset something. From then on, it was always available no matter what I selected.
But before changing "Dropout Protection" reset the link to my interface, BOTH checkbox items
"Enable low latency monitoring for instruments" and
"Use native low latency monitoring instead of hardware monitoring"
were greyed out and there we no "Z"s next to "Audio Roundtrip" or "Instrument".
Great job explaining this topic Marcus! Glad I found this! Thank you!
Cheers!!
Marcus, this noob thanks you. You show me the obvious and the subtle, both of which I seek. Invaluable! And I like your diction.
Superb explanation. Saved me days of confusion. Thank you!
Latency figures for converters alone typically fall in the .7 - 1.4 mS range. That’s for each conversion, A/D and D/A, so a round trip of roughly 1-2 mS. These figures are common at 48kHz and drop almost by half at 96kHz. In my experience, latency doesn’t become musically objectionable until more than about 5mS. Less is better of course, but I have used Pro Tools HD with an overall system delay of 5mS with no complaints even from drummers monitoring live through the DAW.
When I began working like this, my rationale was that the sound of a drummer’s instrument takes 2-3mS to reach their ear acoustically, so conventional analog monitoring is actually faster than reality. A delay that is close to the actual physical latency of sound is quite acceptable for even the most acute musician’s ear and mind. This has proven to be true.
Excellent video explaining.
Such a helpful video. Thank you.
This was very essential in understanding usb and thunderbolt. Does anyone have list of audio interfaces that support blue z or hardware direct monitoring with plugins?
UA Apollos ... sadly
Another great video Marcus. Thank you!
Just came across this, thank you very much for the explanation! Took me long to set everything up with my legacy 192, but it works almost perfect.
One thing I am missing in SO6 is to have Delay and Reverb hearable, when blue Z is active. Do you know if this still works in the current versions?
thank u for this video pls answer mu Question .. can i use 3rd party plugins with studio 1824c , 192 ? am confused now .. i want to buy new quantum2626 but my laptop doesn't support the full speed of thunderbolt i have the port but only 20GBs .. so what u recommend i want to record my band with 3rd party plugins to hear the plugins and get raw audio to mixing later
what does it mean if my low latency is listed as N/A??? I use studio one 6, and a volt 2. use native latency is greyed out, and have no Zs listed
I have a lynx Aurora using studio one I get the bluesy but I do not have the option of clicking or seeing a green Z
Thank you!!
The Quantum 2626 is the fastest interface in the World at the moment.
Do send fxs get affected by the green z as well or do they standard? Meaning will the send fxs now be at native low latency?
Thank You! I have Presonus Studio 24c audio interface, but I don't have this mixers on my Universal Audio. Using iMac Pro. Send me link for install please? Tnx 🎶
Thank you my questions are answered I didn't get it the first time, only one question left can I chain presonus quantum to uad satellite 2 octo
So... in terms of a USB interface, is Studio 192 my best bet or is there anything else I should look at? And no, Thunderbolt is unfortunately not an option for me. Any advise would be greatly appreciated!
Hi Marcus, great video and very clear. It was not long to me as it contained so much good info! Since Studio 192 is supported, what about the 2 new models that have DSP on-board, 1810 & 1824? Do you know if they will work the same as 192? Thanks again for your videos!
To be honest - Im really not sure! Id have to look into them..
I have the rodecaster pro 2. Dont think it will work with that
Can you explain the difference between the "direct monitoring" function activated by pressing the hardware button at the Studio 68 and Blue Z? Direct Monitoring does the same signal routing shortcut as the "blue z" monitoring, but how does Studio One know how to set the correct latency? When direct monitoring is enabled (Hardware "Mon" switch activated) - I hear the monitored signal from the input almoust in real time, but the playback audio from the daw (drums, metronome etc.), that I am using to sync the timing of the instrument on the input "throug my ears" has an output latency > 0ms. As Studio one "knows" the difference of the input latency and the output latency and tries to compensate the timing of the new recorded instrument accordingly with software monitoring. No one could explain this to me so far. (Update: I think the record offset value in Options could be used to compensate this?)
Im not familiar with the Studio 68 and how it handles Hardware monitoring - I will look into it though..
Thanks Marcus for the explanation. I just bought the 192 mobile but the behavior of these z's and check boxes has change. As I go for a lower block size, say
Yes - I see that change as well (the settings becoming greyed out) but you could also just bump it up - then manually de-select the "use NLLM instead of Hardware Direct Monitoring" option.
The signal may process on playback BUT it would'nt be processed while you are recording..
how are you geting fat channel above the inserts?
Do the newer Presonus Studio usb-C interfaces have this option, like the 68c / 1824c ?
I really looking for that no answer until we try it :)
That's all I want is the choice to track and have it be seen in the star ring
I have the 1818vsl but does not have mixer anymore, apparently is not available, how would I go about setting up my outputs especially for headphone mixer? Thank you
P.o.B pedals if you are using a PC you can downgrade to the old drivers and and run the Vsl app. If on a Mac you are out of luck
Great video and good job explaining how it works. Unfortunately, on my system I get better performance when I set Dropout Protection to minimum, but that pretty much disables Native Low Latency monitoring (green) - I only have the option for Harware monitoring (blue). When I set it to Low or higher then I get the Native option (green) - but my CPU usage doubles. Why is that? isn't the CPU usage supposed to drop? I use an RME Fireface 802 so I've always gotten pretty low latency as it is. I'm wondering if this feature works better on interfaces that don't have good latency. It is a little puzzling.
So how does the studio 68 and 26 fit into all of this. There is very little info concerning their role in this blue z/ green z affair.
@Hartatac TKV World™ I will follow up on this and try to find out
Fix: buy an UA Apollo interface and never have to worry about it.
Worst product ever......
How come? Can you direct monitor on the apollo?
Will this saw control of hardware work on their new USB c interfaces?
Exactly what I was wondering....
Marcus quite informative 0- I liked it
What would it cost to upgrade from studio one 3 professional to studio one 4 professional?
Griffin - Normally it costs about £130 for the upgrade. However, every so often Presonus send offers in their newsletters and sometimes there will be a decent discount of up to 1/3rd off their software. I had one of these deals last month for their St Patrick's Day Sale and upgraded my version 3 professional to version 4 professional and it cost me about £85 altogether.
It's worth looking out for the Presonus newsletters, they seem to offer a discount every few months, I think they'll do it again sometime during summer and black Friday for sure.
I started off with a free version of Studio One 3 Artist and learnt how to use it for a few months. Then I upgraded to version 3 professional when they emailed me the 30% discount, then I used that for a year or so then I decided to take their 1/3rd off discount and upgrade to version 4. It's way better than paying full price for it, I must have saved about £300+ by waiting for Presonus's sales. If you don't get their newsletters just sign up for it on the website. It's not just Studio One that you get offers for, you can also get good deals on Notation, and other add ons, plugins etc and save a fair amount of money. 👍
Hi Marcus. At the end you said there is no way you would get rid of your S192. I have a Studio 192 and I am going to get a Quantum. What advantages are there in keeping the Studio 192 please?
It's just such a fantastic interface. And in my opinion there is still a place for ~0 latency Hardware direct monitoring..
Marcus, can we have a consult. I am on a Mac Pro 2013 and S1 Pro 3.5. Im having some issues.
What seems to be the problem Jerialice?
That taskbar popping up all the time is really annoying.
What. I'm so confused.
Why wouldn't you SHOW us on camera, what you did from your interface, in order to achieve low latency? That's what I need to see or know because I just upgraded to the 1810c series.
this has to be explained in a different way
Lol all this hype over something that is 15 years old Asio Direct Monitoring. It was built into most FireWire Interfaces so you did not need and external software mixer to route ins and outs without going into the Daw. Basically you add DSP now and sell ADM as a new feature. This was the biggest selling point of the ASIO 2.0 spec and was required to be part of the driver and hardware in order to work. Sadly this feature was removed from Daw’s only Steinberg still has it.
Lots of clicking and mucking about.
You set it up once and you are done. Save it and press Record! :) ...
Studio one interfaces ain't good frfr USB 3 works like 2.0
Not all. My Studio 192 is true USB 3.0, Not just the cable type, but USB 3.0 bandwidth as well.
Presonus need to slow down and stop coming out with all these different pieces of hardware. They haven't even established themselves in the audio interface game like an rme etc. Luckily Presonus Software is carrying the company.
hey good video....why do you think i might be unable to hear any monitoring when i switch to the blue z hardware monitoring. I can hear monitoring with green z but nothing on blue z. set at 512. i was using studio one 4 artist with a 192, i upgraded to artist 6 and now i cant get any sound thru on blue z.