Andrew Tate Is Wrong About Marriage | Guest: Dr. Brad Wilcox | Ep 953
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- Today we’re joined by Dr. Brad Wilcox, professor of sociology at the University of Virginia and senior fellow at the Institute for Family Studies, to discuss the importance of marriage, the growing trend of polyamory in our culture, and his new book, "Get Married: Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge Strong Families, and Save Civilization." We start off with an explanation of why so many are misguided about what marriage actually offers people and why the lie that Christian marriages are doomed to fail is perpetuated so often from both the Left and the Right. We look at the rise in media coverage and normalization of polyamory and discuss what this means for how people see relationships and sex, as well as its disastrous effects on children. Is married life really making us sad, and what do we lose when we, as a society, fear marriage?
You can get Dr. Wilcox's new book, "Get Married: Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge Strong Families, and Save Civilization," here: www.amazon.com/Get-Married-Am...
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
01:30 The lie of marriage unhappiness
09:15 Lies from both left and right
18:14 Self-love & singleness
24:04 Polyamory
36:45 Effects of stable married families
40:18 The 'American Dream'
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Links:
The Free Press: "Why You Should Get Married" www.thefp.com/p/why-you-shoul...
CNN: "Are married people happier than those who are not? A new poll has answers" www.cnn.com/2024/02/09/health...
The New Yorker: "How did Polyamory Become so Popular?" archive.is/I4cU8
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You have no idea how much I'm told on social media that me relying fully on my husband financially will lead to ruin when he ultimately leaves me for another woman. What a sad sad view! We are Christians, and we've been happily married for 20 years. It's so unreal out there.
If women believed in their husbands they would be a good deal happier and also a good deal more foolish.
I guess I can only truly speak for myself: the reason I'm not married is because the mother of my child was completely brainwashed and turned against me. And when it comes to getting married and starting a new family I find it literally impossible to find a new woman. All I can do is focus on God and live my life.
Churches and Christian communities need to hold men and women accountable and equally responsible for their own actions. Neither sex should be given a pass or have a blind eye turned when sinning against members of the other.
So men can't have preferences? And are they to date or marry a so called "born again" christian girl/woman that in her younger years she has run through double digit of men, and now she wants to settle down? Or marry a christian woman that's controlling and thinks she'd like to remain virgin even after marriage - or when she feels she has enough kids?
Pay more attention to your Creator than your critics praise God praying for everyone everyday God bless you All....
Amen
" You will seek Me and you will find Me when you seek Me with all your heart." Jeremiah 29:13
I was in polyamory. It's horrific! Not one couple I knew in the lifestyle are still together including my own marriage.
Polyamory sounds like a nightmare! Poor you! I can only imagine what a mess it would be to live that.
Going on 30 years here. Know others going on 50.
What led you down that path if you don't mind me asking? What leads others in that lifestyle down that path?
For me it was realizing that I could love more than one person at a time and that exclusivity meant nothing to me. To me the value in a relationship is what we give one another, not in what we withhold from other people. To my mind, someone saying they will only ever have physical intimacy with me for the rest of their life is like swearing they'll never eat their favorite foods again to demonstrate their love to me. It just makes no sense - to me.
@@kenofken9458 Would you describe your religious views as atheist? Agnostic? Christian? Something else?
The problems in the culture cannot be resolved if it is not acknowledged. Every christian conservative should be able to see and acknowledge that there is a two tier legal system...and that includes disputes in marriage and divorce! Doesn't mean red pill is right about everything (they get a lot of things wrong because it is led by secularists), but courts being bias overwhelmingly towards women is hard to argue against. That's partiality and not equal weights and measures! It should make every Christian upset because it is unjust.
we don't enter into contracts where the other party is rewarded for breaking it. Most women today want the marriage but not to be a wife
I'm a divorced, single mom (divorced because of domestic abuse). All these women talking about all they can do without kids is kinda laughable. I can pretty much do all those things now that my kids are older and they are with me the whole time. We go to the movies, we watch tv together, we play games, we go hiking, we spend a day at the mall, and when we're all tired, we go to our own rooms for alone time. There's nothing these childless peeps do that me and my daughters can't do. 🤣
Your kids are older , you know you can’t do it all , no one can and especially if a women puts a family first . Don’t lie , kids take time and energy and that’s fine but no you can’t have it all at the same time
Same here. My kids even make me coffee and breakfast from time to time. They help with chores, they help each other. We have a lot of fun together. They’re not babies anymore but they’re still very young.
Plus, they're built in besties!
Not easy doing it by yourself. I never planned on being a single dad, but heart disease had other plans.
"O send out Thy Light and Thy Truth..let them lead me, let them bring me. To Thy Holy hill, and to Thy dwelling places" Psalm 43:3
My husband and I have been married for 52 years. Like anything in life, marriage is a construction which includes hard work and all the joys and sorrows of life. We both have Jesus Christ as our Center and Source. At 72 years of age, we can say, Jesus wins over anyone and anything else! We recommend that anyone should begin a life of getting to know Jesus!
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As the Mom of a 22 yr old Godly young man, his Dad and I pray for him to find a proper Christian young lady. Harder to do these days.
He will! I highly suggest he gets involved in local volunteer work. That's where the good young ladies will be found.
@@Ana_Cecilia615 Great idea...we encourage him to go to the social groups at a different church than his...his church has more ppl our age! 😉
Monogamy is best, but women are choosing to not be monogamous. Divorce stats show this. ✝️
The divorce laws reward both the bad and good person, therefore, the laws are not just. ✝️
Promiscuity is not human nature. It’s our fallen nature. Beyond the obvious religious reasons, it. Just. Makes. Sense. It provides safety and stability that allows physical and mental health to thrive. We can deny it all we want, but from birth ALL of humanity thrives on safety and stability (Maslow’s hierarchy of needs and every child behavioral theorist supports this). Marriage is more than sex. It is a demonstration of acceptance, respect and honor. I can honor my spouse by not making them compete for me, supporting them emotionally and physically, and keeping them safe by not bringing danger to our bodies through strangers in our home and STDs. I don’t think it’s that complicated! Idk maybe I’m just crazy! 🤷🏻♀️
It's a question of risk assessment, which is far more favorable for women than men. That is not to say people should not get married, but if it fails, which it likely will, men are more likely to lose out financially, and if there are kids involved, forget about being given a fair shake.
This is the guy who made the Prager U video that unintentionally convinced me and a bunch more men to never get married! 😂😂😂
Perfect!! Stay celibate and don't date either and you'll be good!
First… much of this is so sad!
Second.. who in the world has time for all these shenanigans? I either manage my time poorly or I have so many more interesting things to do within the framework of marriage and family. 🤷🏻♀️
Expectations by women that are unrealistic are what's being promoted on social media, not to mention the amount of cheating that gets found out. Of course, we all want to marry but what if you find someone at work that's maybe more attractive than your partner, maybe tells better jokes, and gives you fresh attention. Thats what men don't want to become their reality, not to mention the guys finding out kids aren't theirs. I wouldn't recover from that mentally
This happens to women far more often then men but nice try, married men have affairs far often then a women does
How wouldn’t you know the kids aren’t yours it’s not that hard to do a DNA test . That said my kids look like my husband so genetically I find not knowing laughable . If you really don’t trust the women your with that’s crazy to me . Do the DNA then . You don’t pay child support without it though so it’s a false argument . No court makes you pay with out DNA
This screams that you are a fearful person.
@@KatieHolmes-kz5qm you scream of no empathy. This man has laid out very real concerns he and many other men have and your first response is to mock. He is correct although a tad ineloquent
Then about year 20, kids are out, or almost out of the house, and she decides she not happy anymore, (or you find out she hasn't been for sometime, and this is the first your hearing about it, when she drops that nuclear bomb on you) or you hear "I Love, but I'm not in love with you anymore". Been there done that!
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You are absolutely right AB!
- well there was a university professor on our street as growing up - that sat on a chair in his driveway on weekends - and blow bubbles out into the air When it was warm outside and didn't rain also
Interesting.
Thank you so much for all the information speaking of polyamorous my 30 year old nephew is polyamorous recently identify as "non binary" I feel he is surrounded by darkness and evil. If it's not too much to ask please pray for him all who can. I appreciate you. Thank you to everyone. Please keep Keegan in your prayers. Thanks reatable fam.
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Men fear family courts, however marriage is long term happiness.
That's my biggest fear. I've seen it in action
MGTOW is the only way in 2024. No marriage, no dating, no cohabitation.
our culture doesn't value working on relationships either. Almost a 50% divorce rate because 'he wasn't making me happy'.
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As a 23 year old of divorced parents I definitely took a huge hit to my mental health and was put in between the divorce. I didn’t graduate college and my dad has fallen into a deep depression after the divorce and lack of having someone to love. It is so sad the amount of divorces that impact the family and the people in them. I’ll be reading this book as soon as the Lord moves me out of my single season. He’s definitely developing me for a future marriage.
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Data shows 50% divorce rate
some people stay for the kids
In total 70% +- end in divorce
And this is still accounting for some
Older gens
New gen will be even worse
Marriage was a neccessity
That's why it was working
The woman leaving could literally mean her end
Now it's just for anything but neccesity
Marriage now is ''Luxury''
And that is far easier to discard
Bring andrew tate on your show and have a discussion with him
Why do you assume he would if he was given an invitation?
It is messed up out there. All guys want that I meet in the entertainment, not a relationship. A lot of mistrust towards relationships in general.
All he talks about is sexual satisfaction . My family had the flu for 4 weeks . If our lives were all about sexual satisfaction we would divorce every couple of months and move on to someone new when no one feels great and is tired and anyone over the age of 50 wouldn’t stay married . Sex is not everything in a marriage . It’s one factor of many in a happy marriage .
true but it's how men feel respect and validation. so it's fairly important
Clearly anyone who thinks polyamory is good hasn’t seen sister wives 😂
I don't think the idea of marriage is the problem. It's the paper contract which is nothing more than a show to prove to OTHER PEOPLE about some commitment.
Also that the Marriage Industry doesn't care about goodness but profit and will push for families to go for as much of an expensive wedding as possible under the guise of _"making it as special a day as it can possibly be"_ /.
Isn't commitment about the heart? And what if you're not religious? Who do you have to prove it to? There is only one person you have to prove it to and if it takes a piece of paper to do it then it's not worth the paper it's written on.
That being said Andrew Tate is not a good human being. He can have SOME good messages in his rhetoric such as trying to influence guys to become stronger in many ways such as working out and reading up on certain things which you know you will have a problem coming up against, yet his delivery just comes off as pre-scripted, disingenuous or just plain selling something.
Good insight. I've never watched any of Andrews videos: only know of him through references on others videos, but I can see what you're saying about him. Men are desperate for a role model in this generation and he fits the bill. Especially because many Americans are like you said "non religious."
There are 2 reasons that there are marriage licenses (maybe more). 1) Tax purposes. If you are married, you get tax benefits and tax breaks, but you have to prove that you are married. This is the same reason that we have birth certificates, and one of the reasons we have driver's licenses. 2) If you have a marriage license, the only way to break that is through annulment or divorce. If you don't legally get married, then your partner can just leave whenever they want. It is a way of keeping people accountable.
Do you really think that marriage licenses are a new invention? They were issued in Bible times to. The Old Testament Law says that a man is allowed to write a certificate of divorce to his wife if she displeases him. Jesus Christ said that Moses allowed men to write a certificate of divorce for a time because of their hardened hearts. My point is that if they had a certificate of divorce all the way back in Moses' day, then they must have had some sort of marriage license binding them legally.
That being said, I do agree with you that culture does pressure women to spend a ridiculous amount on a wedding instead of having a good quality marriage. However, nobody has to spend that amount on a wedding. There are people who go to the courthouse.
People who elope. People who have a diy wedding.
The “marriage industry”…for crying out loud, of course people are gonna try to sell you stuff; doesn’t mean you need to buy it. That is a non-issue.
@@josietanner3960 tax breaks? That's reason number one you got married?
@soldierx2 That is not what I said. I said we have marriage licenses to prove your married so that you can receive tax benefits and other legal stuff. That was the reason I gave for having a legal document, such as a marriage license. This person didn't understand why we had to have such a document... well, I gave her a reason. You don't know me, so you should stop making assumptions about people that you do not know. I have a very similar view on marriage as Allie Beth Stuckey.
Amen!! Also.. Allie, why do elder Millennials try to gatekeep our generation? Many of them try to claim the generation is only for people born in the early to mid-80’s (??) and stir up nonsense online. PLEASE can you address the birth year range for millennials (1981-1996)? Getting real tired of this 😅
I'm an older millennial and have never heard of this gatekeeping. Why is it? I've never cared either way about getting to call myself a millennial; it's just the generation label some sociologists assigned to me based on when I was born. If you were born in that range too then I don't see why you shouldn't be able to call yourself a millennial or why anyone else should care either way.
I would also like to point out that on the Institute for Family Studies (who the guest is affiliated with) website there's an article titled "Saving Men From The Men's Rights Movement." Thus, to many on the right, it's not just red pill that they hate-it's the very idea that men are organizing civil rights groups that they despise-in other words, we don't even deserve fair treatment.
Let that sink on!
they fear men organized.
@@richardy2071 Yes! None of them want us to talk and share our experiences and learn from one another.
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Kids are the future generation, adults not being responsible will impact innocent children. So immature
Truth. 50 year old children out here refusing to grow up. Pathetic.
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We are all slaves to sin. By that, I mean the mindlessness that leads to the flowing of time and all of the misery that entails.
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I know it wasn’t Gods intention for polygamy, but what about the biblical times when there were multiple wives and multiple half siblings in the home? it’s similar
That is - Even king David had concubines and multiple wives, but he didn't sin until he had sex with another mans wife, and God told him "if you would have asked I would have given you more."
Dear redpill men (and brothers in Christ),
God knows all your fears and vulnerabilities. You must go to Him to seek out answers and discernment and comfort. No amount of dwelling on it apart from Him will satisfy. You must stop lashing out or being taken over with nihilism towards the very institution and image bearers He created. What is true and good in His eyes does not change. Attitudes of slander, malice, and hard heartedness are not of God. Instead, pray for your fellow human beings, man and woman alike, for the hold that sin has on them and how they harm each other. There is 0 implication of what you have to do in regards to your own marital relationships. But we all are called to live, feel, think, etc in a way that’s set apart and be the salt of the earth. Our heritage is one of people who have faced immense dangers and battles to stand for His Truth. If not us, then who else will be a living testimony that they might know a Love greater than they’ve ever seen?
Modern women have destroyed the institution of marriage.
Please speak with you sisters, many of them no longer walk with God.
Christian men want nothing to do with most single women.
It is better for a man to live on the corner of a roof than with a quarrelsome woman. Most modern women are not Christian. So secular rules apply. Even most Christian women do not want to be wives, only be married.
I would like hear a citation on that study that christian's have better, and more sex - If this was the same study done BYU it was implemented by professors and only interviewed staff and students - and i don't believe the population does not closely represent a target population due to errors in study design (variables needed: independent, dependent, and controlled, which i believe none of these parameters were in place) or implementation, research bias results from any deviation from the truth, causing distorted results and wrong conclusions. Bias , including during data collection, data analysis, interpretation, or publication, and can occur in both qualitative and quantitative research. interesting other researchers wanted to study the conclusions of these finds, but BYU wouldnt turn the finding of the data over for review? which is pretty telling. The only reason they did this "Study" because they had agenda, and come hell or high-water it was going to look favorable towards christians.
isn't Allie the "online right"?
I think she means secular red pill right. Allie is a biblical conservative. Just my take
@@storiesandjourneys3155 - I agree
Dr Brad Wilcox may present the facts when it comes to marriage but no solutions when it comes to the gender devide both politically, financially or spiritually. How are you going to get women more conservative, men more financially ready and both more spiritual? It's great to have facts about what is needed for healthy relationships but without some plan to obtain those conditions there won't be a solution to this problem.
The spiritual should always be the priority. Everything else falls inline after being led by the Spirit.
Tate is wrong about Israel (he's a hater) & not Chistlian either.
No man wants a 304
IF you are fortunate enough to have a loyal partner, GOOD.
But given women initiate divorce 80% of the time, that most women only want to date the top 10-20% of men AND the fact divorce court routinely clobbers men -
YOU WILL NOT SHAME ME OR ANYONE ELSE EXPOSING WOMEN'S ______behavior.
BTW how did marriage work out for Steven Crowder?????
- James the br o ther of the Lord
It was rather difficult to hear the guest.
- bare with this Allie (no offense to you and/or others on this site) but as - the song KASHMIR/Led Zeppelin (some people wouldn't believe how satanic they are not - as to their music)
Did you not finish your comment? I was wondering where that was going…
@@brittybee6615 - the word of God / The Holy Bible - is a Revelation within a Revelation : and most theologians and pastors cannot identify this - and they misidentify because as thus-
@@joykeebler1916 Are you talking about general revelation versus special revelation? I heard those terms from pastors. I’m still wondering what any of it has to do with Kashmir, though.
And you didn’t finish your comment with a full sentence again. I’m just saying that to let you know in case there’s some technical issue going on on your end that makes your comments appear cut off.
@@joykeebler1916 Ok. The lyrics never made enough sense to me for me to worry about the meaning. But now I’m reading the lyrics again and I found a quote from Jimmy Page about the song, saying: “It required some kind of epithet, or abstract lyrical setting about the whole idea of life being an adventure and being a series of illuminated moments. But everything is not what you see.” So, I can see how that might be referring to something occult or gnostic.
@@brittybee6615 - yes -i(I) do understand the why (they would) as to theologians and pastors. ...But the word of God, describes these dimensions already - with as 'in the earth' Which is a dimensional reference : for example
Tate is wrong about a lot of things but he's not wrong about the state of marriage in the US. Marriage is a death sentence to men. Theres no benefit to it like there used to be. It's NOT a good idea for a man to get married. Period.
What is the divorce rate of genuine Christians who aren't nominal?
depends on what denomination. Depends on how sincere in their faith they are. Depends how often they attend Church
If Christians are so absolute on the greatness of marriage I highly recommend that they unify every Christian woman in the US to march on Capitol Hill to undo the laws that are absolutely favored for women who have the option at any moment to choose to leave a marriage for any reason they want. Until then, most young men see it as an extreme risk to lose everything as a man to include access to your children on the promise of faith. Young men aren’t blind and can witness the pool of women they have to choose from and family divorce court can easily be looked up online to watch what a man goes through. Good luck out there everybody!
What does that have to do with biblical marriage ?
@@Kwildcat13 forget it, there’s no point arguing with y’all. Go get married. Y’all are just like liberals, can’t be reasoned with.
My husband isn't a fearful man. He walks in faith.
@@KatieHolmes-kz5qm see prior comment above yours 👆 for the response
Christians view marriage as a sacrament before God, the government involvement isn't really thought of.
Does he mention divorce courts?
This is one of the problems with the Church. We rightfully hate divorce, but it does happen. The MGTOW and Red Pill Communities have their problems, but they do have a lot of good points that the Church ignores it its peril. My pastor is in the process of a divorce because his wife does not respect him. He is going to get taken to the cleaners. :(
MGTOW is right. That is who young men should listen to, not the "Christian lobby" and churches.
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I can barely handle 1 woman lol. I can only imagine 2 or 3 😂
RedPillers are 100% correct when they say marriage is broken and not worth the risk in 2024 unless you have an iron clad prenup… and even stilll… btw I say this as a Christian conservative 😂
Yep, prenups can be ignored by the court.
The government needs to get the hell out of our lives.
You mean you say it as a conservative because the Bible doesn't give you an excuse. Not even the money you might risk.
@@person6768 Can you please do me a favor and provide the verse that outlines the necessity to involve a government agency in the scriptural joining of 2 people in matrimony? My understanding was that a marriage was between the man, the woman and God. Not the man, the woman, and the government of the state in which they reside.
@@Thedrickx I've been reading my Bible everyday for the past 8 months; there are some BEAUTIFUL verses about marriage. Even a few verses about divorce, but I have found nothing that states a woman should get the man's kids and money if they separate.
what's your OF
The conservative movement's biggest misandrist and biggest simp together in the same video. A match made in heaven. The only thing Wilcox is known for is making a video that inadvertently convinced most viewers to take the opposite viewpoint of what he was trying to push.
This is crazy, more sin, more soul ties
Polyamory is disgusting but the reality is Marriage and Relationships are over. Romance is dead.
Beth.
Guess what?
Sins apply to both sexes/genders.
So, if it's a sin for a man to wear makeup, it's also a sin for a woman.
Do you how sins work?
Andrew Tate is RIGTH, man shoudl NEVER marry...
You guys drive me crazy with this. The 80% of men who have no familial support or religious background or aren't making 200k need to be very careful with marriage. I love conservatives but they are blind to the realities of the lower classes. Marriage is great, but only if you are healthy and mature and can discern a not dangerous woman lol The red pill is not wrong about marriage.
Dude. Log offline. Make new friends. You’re not okay.
@@RachelDee Dude. Just pretending something i said was deranged does not actually make one thing i just said deranged haha. Instead of acknowledging there might be a reality to my point you covert ad hominem. You are why men need to wait to get married and be careful. chicks do not take men serious. Do you tell your husband to "touch grass" if he has a problem with you?
@@RachelDeeYeah, because deranged alt-right women haters are known for listening to Allie Beth Stuckey. If see a post saying marriage is great, but men need to wait till they are mature enough to discern a good woman to get married, as an issue? You might be a part of the problem.
@@EMO_alpha you’re lashing out against a stranger. Based on gender no less. You’re literally sinning right now. Don’t you see that?
@@EMO_alpha if you’re a believer, nobody is strong arming you into marriage. Go to Him about your vulnerabilities, angers, fears, etc. I care about men too much to let them be taken over with nihilism and be enabled in a worldview lacking the fruit of the spirit.
You need to adjust your contrast. It looks like you're in a smoke filled room. Did you light some incense? 😏
Spoiler alert: Andrew Tate is wrong about everything.
if you knew what he actually says, you're mind would change
@@richardy2071 I've listened enough to know what he says, and it's a tragedy that so many young Christian men are tuned into this grifting pied piper.
Tate in particular is just a grifter and a scammer, however most men in the red pill community are correct.