I know it's a year ago, but this build is an inspiration to all heat treating oven builders. Thanks for this. It is a very neat design, I'm pondering about that door you made, looks awesome and handy. Never forget to make a small hand size pizza in there. Just because you can :) Thanks man.
Glad you like the build, sofar the heat treat oven works great, ive had it up to 1850F to heat treat some CPM D2 blades! Have you seen my belt grinder video? th-cam.com/video/VBh_EYc6yLA/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@FabbinAdventures 1850f is great and all you really need. I'm a machinist and our industrial heat treat oven says it's max is 2200F but the PID stops it at 2000F. And yes the 2x72 video is next on my watch list. I built a 2x72 grinder out of aluminum from scratch. It's similar in appearance to the Reeder grinder. I'm also in the process of designing and building a slow speed carbide lapping machine that I can market.
I hoping i can do 2200, my pid is supposed to go that high, i have some CPM M4 to make some blades out of, i believe they need to hit that 2100 or so. Ive got all kinds of fabrication videos on my channel, the older stuff is not so good, but i think my newer vids are decent.
Hi Ron. I thought you quit TH-cam. Glad you did not. Finally my biggest wish starts!!! Hope you and your wife are doing good. Best wishes from Germany.
Haha, no we didnt quit you tube, just taking a break. You tube cuts the ad $ by 30% every january, so i felt whats the point of putting out videos untill the ad $$ comes back up.
@@FabbinAdventures if you like to build a nice neckknife for me this would be your first order. I would realy appreciate it and you could send me th price for your work by email. Tank you.
I used to make neck knives back in thr day, i might even still have some. Ill have a look after work today. I still have our "knife show" box and i think they are in there.
I am impressed with your oven build and applaud your tenacity at this build. We share similar skills and areas where more knowledge could be useful but you have all the important abilities and i know there was a lot of effort and time you put in that some people would not imagine if they haven’t attempted a project like this. Did you end up with the heating coils the size that you started with or move to a larger diameter coil? All the best to you. Nicely done!
Thanks man, yeah it was a fair bit of work, and it works good though i would say it could use more coil for faster heating up, but it hits high enough temps to heat treat cpm m4 and hold its temps nicely so i havent really seen the need to make bigger coils. Thanks for watching and commenting man, i appreciate it!
Lol thanks, build it if you can, buy it if you have to. Glad you like my projects, there is likely a powder coat spray booth and oven coming up in the future so stay tuned if thats something that interests you. Still waiting on parts for the fj project so i may as well get some other stuff i want done. The shop will finally be getting a concrete floor this spring...i cant wait! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Precisely why i built mine the way i did, to be different. I didnt like the way all the others were built....to much angle iron...lol Probably about $1200 to $1300 canadian in materials alone. Id have to charge another $1000 for my time, still about $1500 cheaper than buying one! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Add ceramic wool around the chamber. There will be much better insulation and it will heat up faster and the temperature will be more stable. Best regards JB CUSTOM KNIVES ✌️😎
If it is enough for you then sure there is nothing to change. Just writing so, maybe it will be useful to someone. Or maybe someday you will want to make a new stove. I use Mine almost every day, so saving time and energy is welcome with Me. Nevertheless, great project😁.
@JB_CUSTOM_KNIVES oh man for sure if i used it every day it would be worth it, i might use mine once every 6 months these days. Thanks for your input and comments!
Awsome video! I always wanted to do the same thing, seems like fire brick is a huge part of the price. I've yet to try this but i read somwhere that with sodium silicate and perlite you can make fire brick. Sodium silicate could be obtain with lye and silica gel, it's like a high heat resistance glue. It's not 100% safe so better look that up before, you may find a video on youtube by searching "Make Sodium Silicate".
Since you're using Red Beard's schematic, I'll post what I posted on his video: There is one case where the operator can get bit - where one of the solid-state relays shorts out and stays on. The heater will still operate normally, and the heater will still be disabled when the door is opened, leading one to think that everything is fine. BUT: the relay that is stuck on is still connecting voltage through the entire length of the heater, presenting a potential shock hazard - even if it is thermally cold. The right way (more expensive, of course) is to have the door switch operate a contactor (a big relay) that removes power from both ends of the heater. The cheap less safe way is to add an indicator light to either end of the heater and neutral (not ground). If it's on when the door is opened, it's a red flag that the wires still have voltage on them.
Awesome Build. I was wondering was the single brick thickness enough to insulate the temperature inside the kiln and how hot the outside steel casing gets to the touch. Wondering if adding a layer of Kaowool between the brick and metal casing is worth it as i am getting everything together to start my build soon.
Yeah a single layer works, but if i did it again id add Kaowool underneath for sure, but all around would be better. The steel gets pretty warm! I ended up putting a layer of kaowool over top of the electrical and a couple small computer fans to pull air across the solinoids as the heat melted my solinoids and warped my pid a bit on my first real usage, been good since! Thanks for watching and commenting! Good luck with your build!
I know it's a year ago, but this build is an inspiration to all heat treating oven builders. Thanks for this. It is a very neat design, I'm pondering about that door you made, looks awesome and handy. Never forget to make a small hand size pizza in there. Just because you can :) Thanks man.
Thanks for the kind words, too bad you tube doesnt promote my videos more, i would put out more videos if it was worth it.
Damn dude! that looks like store bought, u r the man that's really nice. That's something u might b able 2 sell those!👍
Thanks, she works pretty good too sofar!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Awesome build! I Can't wait for more content! I see the beginning of a 500k+ subscriber channel.
Glad you like the build, sofar the heat treat oven works great, ive had it up to 1850F to heat treat some CPM D2 blades!
Have you seen my belt grinder video?
th-cam.com/video/VBh_EYc6yLA/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@FabbinAdventures 1850f is great and all you really need. I'm a machinist and our industrial heat treat oven says it's max is 2200F but the PID stops it at 2000F. And yes the 2x72 video is next on my watch list. I built a 2x72 grinder out of aluminum from scratch. It's similar in appearance to the Reeder grinder. I'm also in the process of designing and building a slow speed carbide lapping machine that I can market.
I hoping i can do 2200, my pid is supposed to go that high, i have some CPM M4 to make some blades out of, i believe they need to hit that 2100 or so.
Ive got all kinds of fabrication videos on my channel, the older stuff is not so good, but i think my newer vids are decent.
Hi Ron. I thought you quit TH-cam. Glad you did not. Finally my biggest wish starts!!! Hope you and your wife are doing good. Best wishes from Germany.
Haha, no we didnt quit you tube, just taking a break.
You tube cuts the ad $ by 30% every january, so i felt whats the point of putting out videos untill the ad $$ comes back up.
@@FabbinAdventures if you like to build a nice neckknife for me this would be your first order. I would realy appreciate it and you could send me th price for your work by email. Tank you.
I used to make neck knives back in thr day, i might even still have some. Ill have a look after work today.
I still have our "knife show" box and i think they are in there.
@@FabbinAdventures Holy moley today is my lucky day.....
I am impressed with your oven build and applaud your tenacity at this build. We share similar skills and areas where more knowledge could be useful but you have all the important abilities and i know there was a lot of effort and time you put in that some people would not imagine if they haven’t attempted a project like this.
Did you end up with the heating coils the size that you started with or move to a larger diameter coil? All the best to you. Nicely done!
Thanks man, yeah it was a fair bit of work, and it works good though i would say it could use more coil for faster heating up, but it hits high enough temps to heat treat cpm m4 and hold its temps nicely so i havent really seen the need to make bigger coils.
Thanks for watching and commenting man, i appreciate it!
Good job
Thanks!
Thanks for the idea👍👍👍
You bet, i save a couple thousand dollars by making my own oven!
Thanks for your comment!
@@FabbinAdventures you're welcome
Man you build cool stuff sure beats my tiger torch can't wait to see it in action thanks Ron
Lol thanks, build it if you can, buy it if you have to.
Glad you like my projects, there is likely a powder coat spray booth and oven coming up in the future so stay tuned if thats something that interests you.
Still waiting on parts for the fj project so i may as well get some other stuff i want done.
The shop will finally be getting a concrete floor this spring...i cant wait!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@FabbinAdventures U bet Ron got in some crap for commenting so this is my new channel
Howd you get in crap for commenting?
@@FabbinAdventures I'll drop you a mail thanks Ron.
That you for sharing this! Much appreciated!
You bet! Its a huge savings and quite easy to build!
You can use the scrap brick pieces to build furnace/oven furniture to hold your knives.
Yep, thats what i do
looking good,,,we waiting knife build,,,
,,u r simple man,,,keep it going,,,
sub definitely
It works very well, ive already heat treated 10 knives sofar.
Thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing!
Looks great though
Thank you sir, im very happy with how it turned out!
Nice 👍
Ive always loved square bodies and we finally found one with good bones without much rust or body damage!
I love the build. Seen many DIY heat treating ovens, but love your design above the rest. Should build and sell them. I would buy one.
Precisely why i built mine the way i did, to be different. I didnt like the way all the others were built....to much angle iron...lol
Probably about $1200 to $1300 canadian in materials alone. Id have to charge another $1000 for my time, still about $1500 cheaper than buying one!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice build! Your design is my favourite. What is the max reachable heat in °C?
I can hit 400F easily and maintain it, but i usually only go as hot as 275F
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Add ceramic wool around the chamber. There will be much better insulation and it will heat up faster and the temperature will be more stable.
Best regards JB CUSTOM KNIVES ✌️😎
Thanks, i have ceramic wool underneath to keep more heat off the electronic which has helped. The oven it self works great.
I put the wool around the chamber, and now can reach 1200°C in 30 minutes, with 3,6kw heaters.
@JB_CUSTOM_KNIVES nice, well im not gonna redeisgn this thing now, i don't use it that much. Shes gonna have to be good enough..lol
If it is enough for you then sure there is nothing to change. Just writing so, maybe it will be useful to someone. Or maybe someday you will want to make a new stove. I use Mine almost every day, so saving time and energy is welcome with Me. Nevertheless, great project😁.
@JB_CUSTOM_KNIVES oh man for sure if i used it every day it would be worth it, i might use mine once every 6 months these days.
Thanks for your input and comments!
Awsome video! I always wanted to do the same thing, seems like fire brick is a huge part of the price.
I've yet to try this but i read somwhere that with sodium silicate and perlite you can make fire brick.
Sodium silicate could be obtain with lye and silica gel, it's like a high heat resistance glue. It's not 100% safe so better look that up before, you may find a video on youtube by searching "Make Sodium Silicate".
Thanks for watching, yeah, fire brick is the main item you need, and a bit costly but its still way cheaper than buying a premade oven.
Since you're using Red Beard's schematic, I'll post what I posted on his video:
There is one case where the operator can get bit - where one of the solid-state relays shorts out and stays on. The heater will still operate normally, and the heater will still be disabled when the door is opened, leading one to think that everything is fine. BUT: the relay that is stuck on is still connecting voltage through the entire length of the heater, presenting a potential shock hazard - even if it is thermally cold. The right way (more expensive, of course) is to have the door switch operate a contactor (a big relay) that removes power from both ends of the heater. The cheap less safe way is to add an indicator light to either end of the heater and neutral (not ground). If it's on when the door is opened, it's a red flag that the wires still have voltage on them.
Thats some good points, thanks for your input!
Awesome Build. I was wondering was the single brick thickness enough to insulate the temperature inside the kiln and how hot the outside steel casing gets to the touch. Wondering if adding a layer of Kaowool between the brick and metal casing is worth it as i am getting everything together to start my build soon.
Yeah a single layer works, but if i did it again id add Kaowool underneath for sure, but all around would be better. The steel gets pretty warm!
I ended up putting a layer of kaowool over top of the electrical and a couple small computer fans to pull air across the solinoids as the heat melted my solinoids and warped my pid a bit on my first real usage, been good since!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Good luck with your build!
Just to let you know you have a couple jump cuts in the vid every couple mins or so. Doesn't bother me but you may want to look into it.
Ok ill look into it, i hate jump cuts, but i was having trouble uploading it last night, thanks for the heads up!
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Sorry, i obviously fat fingerd it when typing, all fixed up now!
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