RAM 1500 3.6L Pentastar V6 Engine **Heavy Mechanic Review** | Can it ACTUALLY TOW???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- I review a RAM 1500 with the 3.6L Pentastar V6 Engine as a Heavy Duty Mechanic and see if this small engine can actually tow. I go over the power numbers, fuel economy, acceleration, engine reliability and longevity and how this engine compares to the 5.7L hemi. Finally I get on the road and tow a heavy trailer to see how this v6 engine handles a load.
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So I figured I would start off the RAM 1500 towing with the smaller 3.6L v6 engine option since well it is the base model engine for these trucks. fear not, the 5.7L hemi will be making it's return on the channel doing his towing test as well.
we are technically overloaded on this run but I thought it was critical to maintain the same trailer weight across every 1500 truck in the segment so we get to see this little v6 engine working very hard.
good news is that this 3.6L pentastar v6 engine is a very reliable stout unit and I had very little worries about over working this engine. this v6 engine is known to be a great working engine and if you own one it will be a very reliable engine option in the ram 1500's
throughout the towing run this engine was revving very high and if these hills were any longer this engine would of most likely overheated. needless to say I understand why the tow rating on these v6 engines are so low because they just don't have the torque needed to keep those wheels moving.
my take away here is if you need to tow a heavy trailer this engine will do it but I would not recomend towing over 6,000lbs at length with this engine.
Hope you guys liked the video!
00:00 - Intro
00:54 - 8,000lbs Trailer Set up
01:20 - 3.6L Max Towing
01:55 - 3.6L Power Numbers
02:14 - Truck Squat
02:51 - Acceleration Test
04:33 - Towing
06:43 - 3.6L Pentastar Engine Reliability
07:43 - Engine breaking
09:39 - E-torque System
11:24 - Acceleration Text #2023
13:24 - Fuel Economy
13:43 - Hill Pulls
18:10 - Conclusion - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I like that you overloaded it. People act like you will LITERALLY DIE IN A FIERY EXPLOSION if you go 1lb overweight.
I mean I would not recommend doing this but the truck and chassis are rated for well above 10,000lbs so I was okay with a little extra weight
People do tow stuff they have no business towing all the time. I have pulled a number of 1500s pulling dump trailers out of the rhubarb
@@juliogonzo2718 Anyone can improperly load a trailer and hit the ditch
Source - I live in probably the highest per capita diesel 3/4 1 ton ownership area in North America and see it all the time
@@hitempguy problem is reduced weight on the steer axle. If it's sagging the trucks are it is taking weight off the steers and now they lock or understeer easier.
@@hitempguy not to mention if you are overloaded and get in an accident where someone is critically injured or killed, the police will weigh everything as part of the investigation. Seen it happen a few times. We have a scale at our towing yard and cops have followed me to the yard a few times to weigh vehicles involved in accidents. One was an E-350 that was delivering water cooler bottles and ended up hitting another vehicle. Another one was a 2500HD pulling a trailer full of concrete pipe stands that rear ended a semi that was stopped in traffic control in a construction zone. It was like 25,000 gross weight (too much for his licence) and seeing as it happened in a construction zone, pretty sure the cops gave him the 8x6 dildo on a sawzall for that one.
My Ram 1500 has the same engine it pulls my landscape trailer without issue. Though if I get a larger trailer and another big mower I won’t feel comfortable with it every day. The fuel economy and comfort it offers made it quickly our long haul vacation vehicle beating out the wife’s outback.
i've got the same basic Ram, with the same engine, and i agree with everything he says. I've done some hauling with it, it struggles a little bit going uphill, but it does indeed get the job done. maybe not the best job, but she gets 'er done. I love how fuel efficient it is too, even when working hard.
agreed. same kind of reasons i'll probably get a base model maverick. rated payload of 500lbs and tow 2000lbs is nice and having a bed provides a lot of utility. also not much larger than a base hybrid corolla same for msrp.
Nice video. I have had 4 Ram 1500s 3 with the 5.7 and went with 3.6 on the last one, couldn’t be happier. I only tow a single axle enclosed or double jet ski trailer. Better gas mileage and easier on maintenance since my wife has a caravan with the 3.6.
2019 classic with 53k trouble free miles. I run full synthetic 5w20 and change it every 6 months.
To really show how much this engine shines you should do the same test with the 3.3 liter naturally aspirated V6 F-150.
The 3.6 vs the 3.3 would be awesome to see, I'm a 3.6 guy though, but I would love to see those two engines go head to head
The 3.6 would easily beat the 3.3
@@geralddobrynski7231 I think so too!
@@DodgeDakota2004that 3.3 is a pig. The base engine for any F150 should the 2.7. I’ve driven the 3.3 and I could get out and walk faster than it.
Love the way he reviews these engines i think ram make good trucks v6 seems very good for me ive had a friend thats had it for 5 years and nothing ever messed up on it so i no for a fact its a reliable truck
Love that you put in the work so that we don't have to! Great video :)
Thanks Lindsay!
enjoy your reviews bud...keep up the good work!👍
Great videos. Beautiful test route.
Another excellent video! Your explanations of things and grasp of so many different engines and platforms is truly inspiring to someone whos thinking about getting into the trade!
Would you ever open your own shop? I'd love to work for you and learn from you !
I actually was wanting a video of this exact same engine to be shown on how much it can tow.
Just know that pulling an 8000 lb trailer with minimal wind resistance is not going to be a good comparison if you're going to tow an 8000 lb travel trailer that's a huge speed brake.
TFL truck did a great one with the 1500 V6 a couple months ago. It was a serious pressure test on that powertrain
Very good reviews!!!!
I had a challenger with this engine and had zero issues with it.
Me too. 155000km without any issues. BR from Germany
I tow a camper in the West Virginia mountains with a Grand Cherokee 3.6. I end up passing the tractor trailers and some of the big motor homes on the hills. Gross combined weight on the scales is 10,200 lbs.
Last month, I almost bought a Ram 1500 Classic Warlock with the v6. It came with the 3.55 ratio. But the dealer was willing to change it to a 3.92. I ended up buying a '23 Jeep JLU Sport S Altitude. My wife has an '18 Ram 2500 6.7L with the 3.42 ratio, that carries a 4Wheel popup camper. And the Jeep will be towed behind it on occasion.
My wife previously had a '14 Ram 1500 Crewcab 4wd with the 3.21 ratio and the v6. I towed a 3,000# trailer from Greenville, NC to Lancaster, CA. We had 3 adults in the truck. Except for the added length, the trailer did not seem to affect how the truck handled or took the hills. The truck also got 21mpg for the trip. The Eastbound part of the trip with no trailer, was 26mpg.
I have a v6 powered '20 Dodge Durango GT AWD with the tow package and a '16 Ram 1500 Quadcab 4wd 3.0L with the 3.92. Even with all the overdrive gears, the gear ratio around 4.0 is best in any full size vehicle. My wife's 2500 and the Jeep JLU will get 4.1 gears iin the future.
We have an '04 Chevy Astro with 3.73 ratio. And that towed up to 5,000# okay. But the 4-speed transmission need some more gears for smooth operation. So the 8-speed transmission is what makes this Pentastar work so well. 3.55 or 3.92 gears will make it work better.
The 8sp does fine with 3.23, I have a hemi but with the 3.23 it tows 10k no problem and got 15 mpg.
It all depends on one's needs!! Mine will tow, aluminium fishing boat w/50hp and or the sxs,so about 2000 to 2500lbs so it's all the motor i need in an awesome truck all day long!!
Can't argue with that!
What kinds of mpg do you get towing that
I tow a camper in the West Virginia mountains with a Grand Cherokee 3.6. I end up passing the tractor trailers and some of the big motor homes on the hills. Gross combined weight on the scales is 10,200 lbs. I’m very happy with this engine. Excellent fuel economy for a 4600 lbs Jeep.
What year is the Grand Cherokee? Which transmission?
@@ScarletKnightmare 2015 with the 8 speed, and tow package.
My wife and I bought a 3,000 pound camper and I was worried I’d have to buy a bigger truck, because most people say never tow with a V6. But your video has without a doubt made me more confident in towing it.
Did you get the 3.21 or 3.55 gears?
I'm in Fredericton and watch your videos. I saw you in Marysville driving yesterday at the bridge that's down to 1 lane haha. Keep doing what youre doing!
Small world!! Was I driving my little hyundai?
@@TheGettyAdventures yes you were!
@@TheGettyAdventures I was like that's not the dodge....
I have the 16 with 3.6 only towed about 2000 pounds but was fine ,i always over loaded my previous chevy trucks with no problem and they never broke down always thought the factory underrated truck because of warranty
Nice run. Lets see the latest 4.3 and ford 3.3
I have the exact same pickup. If you hit the Tow/Haul button next to the traction control button, it fixes the high redline by about a thousand rpm
9:07 always nice once a passing semi clears you (plus a bit of distance) to give them a flash or two of the high beams. It’s hard to judge the distance in the mirror so this way they know they can pull back in front of you. You will often get a marker light or 4-way “Thank you!” flash back.
Don’t give the high beams lots of truck drivers hate it . I’m not saying anything more just pay attention when one trucker give clearance enough to other truckers.
A nice package you can pick up off the lot at most high volume dealers is the 1500 Classic Tradesman SXT. 4x4, v6, some cosmetics upgrades, and a full tow package for heavier duty suspension and auxiliary cooling.
The fuel economy of a midsized sedan with the durability of a purpose built work truck and a couple luxuries to suit your taste.
Going to pick up this exact truck today
Love the videos!
Will you ever test the smaller trucks? canyon, Colorado, ranger?
potentially! The truck supplier currently does not have any midsized trucks so that's the only thing stopping me but I'm looking at other options!
I work my 2022 canyon all the time it’s my little work horse lol I’ve towed 4000lbs before very easily with little effort 3.6L v6 is strong. Come back to Ontario again you can review it 😂
Next year, the HO hurricane test...
There has to be a million+ 3.6s on the road worldwide....seems very reliable
Well....10 million I hear now😂
Biggest problem in my wife's last 2 jeeps....oil filter cap o-ring. Oil change places nic it all the time and it leaks.
Can't wait to test that engine out.
I have a 2016 v6 quad cab 4x4 on 22x12 on 37s tires with a couple of bolt ons including timbrens 💪🏾😉oh and I have 29ft camper tows it like a champ everytime 😎💪🏾
I have had two ram's with a Hemi and now have one with the v6. They all feel/felt pretty much the same just driving around town. It's on the highway where you really see the difference. The v6's lack of torque really comes to light when you want to drive aggressively through traffic. But I easily get at least 26 mpg or better in the v6 on the highway. the best I ever got in the hemi was 20. I don't tow either but Im a big guy and need a bigger vehicle so I buy half tons. Honestly I love both engines for different reasons and would be happy with either one. But at my age I just want something that rides good and is quiet.
Me too, The 3.6 is quiet. Im 62, and dont like the drone of a V8 exhaust so much anymore.
Luck you. Wrangler on 35s.... 14mph..
Why are you driving aggressively?
Nice to know. I got a quad cab with etorque. About 150 more pounds if towing than that one. Guess I can get that 25ft pontoon now
I had a 2018 express v6 ... after 20k miles all I can say is it surprised me how good it was ... I avrg 17mpg in city and 26mpg on highway ... used it to haul construction things and mostly over loaded 1,500lb - 2,000lb payloads ... lol there where times I got scared with that temp gauge and the rev line but this thing pulled always np, always ran VERY HOT but honestly I avg 25mpg highway empty going on a 185 mile loop from a 25ft elevation to a 2,000ft elevation and I did this about 2 to 3 times per week np all year round... overall I truly wished it had more torque Specially down low but it was a very good truck for the money I paid. Swear if it wasn't for the lack of under coating from factory and the massive rusting after 1 year I would have kept it 100% ... I honestly think they designed this torque for just the person who wants the elevated ride height and a pickup truck but only drives solo ...
I agree with you in regards to your trailer and load choice.
Just seemed like the right choice
Big bore small stroke, this engine loves high rpm. That’s why it came alive with the 8 speed. The close ratios keep it up high and it’s not afraid to give a good downshift and get into the meat of the powerband.
we just got home from our annual trip to fredericton and did that stretch of highway in both directions, actually all the way to rivierre du loup, we are from ontario as you may remember. we're glad to have the hemi in our 1500, towing 6500 lbs of travel trailer. it will do our max towing speed of 105 all day without any redline nonsense even on the long hills in NB. instead of the concrete block, try an empty seacan instead
The hemi just has so much more torque which is huge when pulling those hills. I think im going to look at purchasing an enclosed trailer for the 1500 truck runs. Wind resistance is a big factor
@@TheGettyAdventures wind resistance is more than most people consider. even on those downhills we are still on the gas. before the 1500, we had a v6 dakota pulling 3500 lbs, those hills were no problem but a headwind caused a downshift to third(4speed auto) to maintain 100kph
We were pulling about the same amount of weight but fully loaded with my family and we Thomas the Tank Engined it over a pretty gnarly pass
ABOUT DAMNED TIME! I’ve had a 4th gen and 5th gen 1500 crew cab Bighorn and I’ve known forever, they get shit done! Just hauled 4000lbs of boat home home the lake, easy peasy. 5700lb camper same thing, she does it. I just call the high Ricky Bobby mode when she goes full steam. 😂Cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, cheaper to maintain, insure, more reliable, why not? The only secret is… NEVER get the 3.21 gears. Thank you for making this Alex!
Haha that truck had 3.21 gears and it was tough. I think the 3.55's would of been a nice help but overall the engine did what it was supposed to and anything around 5,000lbs this truck would be able to handle without issue
@@TheGettyAdventures NO WAY! I'm surprised it did that good. The lower gears are so much better! I had the 3.21's before and the truck was dead on it's feet in lower rpm's and off the line. 3.55's are the sweet spot and a very noticeable improvement.
love mine with the 3.55 rear.@@clay282
mine 3;55 gears. Its great
This video sold me, for my needs this will exceed any towing I'll need to do. Solid content, thank you.
Get the truck?
@@PEACE_REAPER I did yeah. Red on Black beauty.
@@mattyeh2718 Right on, man. Hope it serves you well.
Omg it’s a pet peeve of mine as a truck driver when drivers, especially ones pulling trailers that don’t do a complete turn signal while changing lanes 😇
I hear ya. Luckily these highways up here are basicly empty at all times lol
noice, i've seent he hemi put through the paces all the time, was curious to what the underrated v6 would show. pleasently surprised.
Thanks for this Great Info! I wonder your thoughts in comparing this vs. a silverado with 2.7 turbo? Which one would you think is more reliable?
I've towed with my non-turbo 3.7 in my F150, I was surprised. It will pull it just fine but it needs to spin if there's a hill.
@thegettyadventures I bought my first truck ever in 2021, Ram 1500 V6 Tradesman 3.55 and I love it!! Just got back from a camping trip. Moncton to Bromont and back. My tent-trailer GVWR 3450lbs. I finished with around 14L/100. I don't use the tow button. What is your take on the tow button??
Owned a challenger with this engine. 155000km without any problems. BR from Germany
Tfl did one with 7k and they couldn’t get it above 60 somethin on the Ike lol I have a 2011 last year of the 3.7 it’s a great engine I’ve flat towed 5k pounds plenty of times I just put a transmission in my truck but the kick down cylinder was going out for the past 50k and I kept driving it anyways I might put air bags in the back but I like the channel it’s nice
I actually think it did well. It was overloaded. Canada and the USA were built with workers, who drove 6 cylinder trucks.
That 300 I6 and small block Chevy built this country that 440 from Chrysler also
Would love to see the F150 when the the base 3.3 V6 as well. Nobody has a towing video with one
They have discontinued that engine beginning 2024.
@@skrsysvery true, I was thinking it would be informative for people who might be buying them used in the future
I have directed multiple people to your videos before they buy a truck
I currently have a first gen 3.5 Ecoboost. I do some occasional light towing of a compact tractor on a 16ft utility trailer. I've been eyeing one of these for my next truck. I think it would be plenty for my needs in a much simpler, more reliable package. I've had pretty much all of the common failures, including timing chains. I do my own repairs and maintenance and I'm craving something simple moving forward...no turbos, no AFM, no regen, etc. This seems to be the best, if not the only option anymore. I appreciate the effort you put into these reviews.
If reliability is important, then the current 3.5 Ecoboost has had pretty much all the problems addressed. It's pretty bullet-proof now. The cam phasers were really the last thing that was causing issues, and they revised the late 2020 models to a completely new design, and there have been no more failures.
@@skrsys Yeah, it should be fine moving forward. It's going to my son in a year or so and it'll have 200k on it by then. I'm thinking about replacement for myself now. Something simple. I also don't want a giant screen, so a base truck it is. I will likely have to buy something a year or two old. I know Ford is making a 10" screen standard for 2024. 👎
I love this engine. It’s not much of a hauler but like mentioned it’s reliable and get decent gas mileage and with the right gearing is reasonably quick. Just got to understand what it is, 1/2 Ton with mid size towing capability
Love my Outdoorsman, 3.6 , Does what i need it to do, more than enough power, 20 MPG locally. 22-23 MPG hwy.
Did this truck have the tow/haul option I didn’t see the light on the dashboard indicating you were using it and it does make a big difference especially during engine braking with the cruise control engaged
These things are rev happy, keep in mind if you're towing something heavy, it will definitely have issues getting into the higher RPM's Keep in mind the 4th gen 3.6 only haves a maximum towing capacity of 5500lb's or something like that, but definitely more torque would help, honestly as my dad said (He has a 2013 3.6L) He'd give up a little horsepower for more torque.
Torque is king. Horsepower is just a number.
@@todddubler2091 Yeah.
I have a long bed 2019 classic samw motor no load I get 24 to 27 mpg at 70 mph. Have towed a Lil bit it pulls the baker grade to Vegas at 62 mph not a problem getting approx 19 mpg
Great video! At what point would you start getting concerned about the coolant, transmission, and oil temperatures? I'm pulling a 6000-pound Airstream with a Pentastar in a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4. I'm within spec for GVWR, GCWR, GAWR's, Towing capacity (6200 pounds), etc, (but within 100 pounds of GCWR of 11,700 pounds when underway). I monitor the temps but I don't think I've ever seen transmission over 93 C (200 F). I have the tow package with the heavy duty engine cooling / oil cooler. My engine has 290 HP at 6000 RPM and 257 ft-lb torque at 4000 RPM, so not exactly the same as the RAM. It definitely works on steeper grades. I don't think I've seen it over 4500 RPM though. 3.45 axle ratios according to the specs. Mostly doing short runs but will look at trucks for longer hauls in the future. Your Ford F-150 videos have been very interesting. I'm subscribed and will keep watching!
I don’t know if you have tested the base ford f150 motor, the 3.3 v6, but I think you should so all the base motors can be compared, although for towing, specifically towing I don’t think any base motor in modern trucks can beat the gm 2.7 turbo i4, also can that be like a current gen f150 for the best comparison, if this truck was a 5th gen dodge Ram this would have also been perfect. Even though the 4.3 gm v6 was discounted in 2021 that would also be a good engine to test
These videos would be more interesting with a box trailer, a flatbed with a concrete block doesn't have the wind resistance that a more real world load would have.
an enclosed trailer is in the works for that exact reason. the big trailer works very nicely for the HD trucks but I want something like a 7500 GVWR enclosed for these 1500 trucks
I have a 2017 ram 1500 quad cab with the pentastar in it. Curious as to how much it actually can tow. Haha we have a high wall pop up camper that weighs in the area of 3500 if I’m not mistaken.
"Not feelin' it!" As he nears 6k RPM....😂
If it makes you feel better I have a lifted wrangler on 35s n pentastar and I pulled 7400 of rip rap rock from north memphis to north ms
One easy heavy load improvement is adding progressive HD springs and upgrading the bump stops to Timbrens. With the tow package you also get the additional transmission cooler and the 2.55 rear end, tow-mode setting and my upgraded Outdoorsman also has some trailer braking adjustability in the dash-adjustable tow modes. DON"T every buy the air suspension if you're driving in cold weather it WILL fail.. 200,000 km and still going strong. She likes to rev is unperturbed, but downshifts are laggy, resulting in late, aggressive shifts, so some manual help on the steering wheel shifter buttons just before uphills smoothes things out. Just don't trust the "lifetime" transmission fluid. You can only change 60% of the expensive transmission fluid (so I did it twice, knowing Ram ain't paying any of my post-warranty bills), but if you upgrade to the later versions of transmission pans at the same time you add better filtration at the same time. Fun fact: the weight distribution is 51 to 49%, the far-back location of the V-6 places it behind the front axle.
oooo, not surprised though the engine is quite a bit shorter than the bigger v8.
Good motor.
I would be confident hauling a few bags of mulch from Home Depot
Alex youre a mechanic. Make some how to videos for the diy community!
I've pulled 9000lbs with my 2019 ram 3.6 couldn't get it to shift past 4th gear while towing
What Im wondering is how it does under a maxed load just in the bed. An I ask because Im considering getting one of one these. I rarely tow anything.
I have 450k miles on my 16 ram 1500 that’s has this motor, I use mine for mpg and I do a lot of highway miles. If you only tow a couple times a year this engine is fine
120k on mine, plan on keeping it forever.
15:50 those temps are pretty reasonable, really. No cause for concern.
I have a 2022 RAM 1500 Limited Crew Cab 4x4 3.6 L V6 , 1582 payload. Looking at a 31' TT with 820 tongue weight, WDH installed and a GVWR on trailer of 7,000lbs. Would you think I would be okay towing given the setup?
Hey guys planning to haul a 08 camry over 2500 km on my claasic v6. Is that a good idea or just drop the plan?
Thank you
Will you do the ford f150 3.7 next
I have a 2021 ram 1500 3.6 towing 6000 lbs will it survive
Did you use the tow haul option?
I assume you were running Tow/Haul mode?
11:48 Let 'er eat, bud!!!!
I recently bought a 2023 Classic 1500 Warlock 3.6 with 355 gears, tow package, limited slip, etc. i DONT use it for towing but supposedly its sufficient. Yes the Pentastar does like to rev, i was surprised myself after the break in when i stepped on it a few times, 6500 seems like the standard shiftpoint.
My 14 goes like hell when i want it too.
how much does MPG change from 0 miles to break in? i dont see more than 20 with mine. 1500 miles on clock, 2024 ram v6
I wonder how the 3.6 would do with the 3.55 gears
Yes very much interested in hearing more about etorque. Very interesting Thanks. Ps and the merz sprinters 4 cylinder diesel engine.
Alright Ill see about getting one!
I wonder how the V6 would do at towing a 28 foot travel trailer that weighs 5700lbs dry? I tow 4-6 times per year on flat roads in Ontario.
**Please Advise** I have the same truck and without towing anything or hauling any payload at all, just me in the truck my engine temp hits 3/4 within 20 seconds of any legit hill. This worries me so much I actually avoid hills if I can. I know my thermostat is opening correctly, the e-fan also works fine, I have a new RAD..What if anything could be the problem? Water pump? maybe belt not tight enough? any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
The biggest issue I have seen so far on overheating is the thermostats on a couple fleet trucks we have at work and both were 2017 year models with 30-40K miles. Not sure why so early on those two pickups. Super easy to change on these.
I have a 2019 3.6 with 150K miles I bought new and I have not had to change a thing. They do run hotter than you might think though. On a hot summer day it may run 225 to almost 230*F. Once the dash shows an outside temperature above 101*F, the ECM changes something and drops the engine temp almost 20* down to like 210*F and I have witnessed this many times in the summer driving hours on end. The computer has some control over regulating the engine temp like adjusting grill shutters and possibly another coolant control valve. I have pulled 6k lbs in over 100*F days and never got over 230*F.
What was the gear ratio on this truck in the video I’m assuming 3.55
They still have cracked cylinder head issues contrary to what they say Chrysler techs still see them come in often with cracked cylinder heads and they are also prone to lifter issues. If the lifter issues are caught early they are cheap and easy to fix, however if not caught early it is a VERY expensive lesson you will learn:P
I change my full synthetic every 5k, keep your oil clean.
Was this the 3.21 or 3.55? I have the 3.21 V6 and have a dry 3350lbs trailer. Can I tow that with 3 small kids and my wife, plus gear? lol.
What was the gearing on that model, 3.21 or 3.55?
I dont see the Tow haul light on
I have a friend with one of these a 2017 model, about 130000km on it If memory serves me correctly and it burnt a valve on # 2 cylinder, guides were worn some so I found a used head and was able to resurrect it on a very cheap budget. But when I test drove it on the highway at about 120 KM/Hour it did not like to keep the torque converter lock up…. As a matter of fact on a 20 KM drive it may have stayed lock in a total of three minutes and that’s probably being generous. I let them drive I and they said no that’s the way it’s always been. No I noticed when doing the engine the transmission fluid looked like old burnt motor oil, likely from all the times they have towed their travel trailer. Folks that transmission fluid is being royally worked to death when the torque converter can’t lock up and is likely why it’s so black. I said all this to say … “just because it can tow a big load doesn’t mean you should “
Side note: I see your fairly local by one of the comments on here…. I live in Hartland NB… awesome that your local
Had a camping weekend planned and at the last minute, my 23 Ram 5.7 hemi had an electrical issue. They gave me another Ram but with the V6. This posed a serious issue. My camper is approx 7000lbs loaded. I only needed the go 30 miles. It was some slow acceleration but I'll be damned if it didnt do a respectable job. Yes i was over on towing capacity and yes there will be people that say i put lives in danger. I took back roads at 50 mph. Btw i looked under the hood. Theres enough room leftover in the engine compartment to put your luggage.
Nothing handles like a rental!
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Im ready to move back down to a half-ton from my 5.9 Cummins, but since I have to sometimes haul 5 to 6,000lbs , i'm pretty sure I'll have to look at ordering a Pentastar v6 with the 3.55 gear set from Factory. Dealers have TONS of v6 ram classics on the lot and not one of them has the 3.55 gears. Which via the towing chart shows an increase of tow capacity over 3000lbs from the 3.21 ratio!!
If i owned a dealership i'd be pushing that ratio hard and you could even compete price-wise to a higher end 1/4T pickup. More truck for the same or less money then tacoma, frontier etc.. makes no sense. If people are stricly after a truck for fuel economny, then look at a car, not a truck.
My 14 has 3:55 gears, it does all i need it to.
Anyone know....does it have the same 8 speed Zf transmission that the Hemi uses? Thanks
Yes 845RE for 4th gen 850RE for 5th gen.
I wanna see the etorque
If a turbo engine is at "only" 2000-3000 *crank* rpm but ends up using close to 30 psi of boost, it's cramming three times as much air and turning three times as much fuel into fiery heat as a naturally aspirated engine at that RPM, and producing more POWER according to math. This naturally aspirated engine has to cram air in solely by revving up once the throttle is open the whole way, so of course it revs up a lot, and sometimes it can't produce its full output because you're in between gears and away from the peak power. But it must have been working efficiently, because it consumed less fuel to do the same job. We'd rather an engine to produce tons of torque down low so that you can get a high output without having to downshift and wind it out, but each engine has its own range that's acceptable and for this one, if we're lucky, it'll maintain longevity at up to a fairly high percentage of its maximum. If not, oops!
The Pentastar is the Gen X of car engines, It doen't care what you say about it or what you put it in. As a Pentastar owner and Gen X'er I don't really care either but it is nice to hear your thoughts and yeah my engine lives at higher RPM's so no worries there for me.
Theyre sensitive engines to oil, they have valve train issues. They also have a lot of crap plastic, including the piece of shit plastic oil cooler
@@mails5054 like I said....We don't care.
@@MrCravin8388 Well dude, im 25, not like i can go out and buy a 25 year old car and know how to do things. At least my generation tries to keep them around a bit. I had a 97 tj wrangler with the 4.0, i sold it because i needed better gas mileage at the time. I regret it now but it isnt like i got out of highschool with enough money to fix the oldtimer car
@@mails5054 Are you sure it's the pentastar engine that's sensitive?
@@MrCravin8388 positive, my dad's buddy is a higher up at chrylser, i own a 3.6l. My dad had one with 200k before it was stolen in Minneapolis. It says it in my manual, cant take normal oil lol, only high rated synthetic
I have a 2014 charger sxt. 168,000 miles on its third v-6
pentastar. Both previous engines broke valve springs and valve ruined engine. It is now for sale. No more Dodge products for me.
Been kicking around the idea of one of these. Guys i know say they get great fuel economy. Not sure if you have done an empty fuel economy review? ( which is why it would be an option) I already have a ticking hemi.
The fuel economy empty is not spectacular. like the Eco diesel would get much better economy but for a full sized truck these engines are solid options for someone not looking to tow 10,000lbs
I’ve had more than one and I promise you, get the lower gears! The “fuel economy” 3.21 gears make the V6 stay in 7th gear. The lower 3.55 and 3.92 gears actually get the same mileage. There’s more grunt available and they stay in 8th gear just cruising along. The lower keeps mean, it doesn’t have to work as hard and it gets the same mpg.
I have a 2023 with the v6. I have had to previous rams with the hemi. I am more happy with this engine than I ever was with the v8. I typically get at least 50 more miles per tank minimum driving around the city. When I do highway driving I can easily get more than 450 miles a tank. I had a grand cherokee with this engine and I was stunned at the fuel economy in that as well. The engine moves this truck around just fine.
I have a 2018 quad cab 4x4 express with this engine and 3.55 gears. was not sure about it at first, coming from a v8 318. It has been great and has plenty of power for everday use. I live in mountain country, 900ft to 5k back to 2k then back to 4k elevations and get around 22 -23 mpg on most trips that are about 250 miles round trip and have seen as high as 27 mpg. Over all from new it has gotten 19 mpg. I am not a hard driver and go the speed limits mostly only 55 to 60 mph on my trips.
Greetings Alex.
I really like the pentastar V6 engine. What is your opinion of the e-torque system; Do you consider that it really helps in performance to work hard while towing and/or loading? Thanks for sharing your videos! 😊 I send you a HUG from CDMX!
I have Etorque and it’s just a fancy stop / start system. I’m not knocking it, but it’s overhyped. There’s never been 1 time in 74000 miles I’ve thought “oh, I can feel Etorque helping”. 😂
I own a 22 V6 with etourq, it only helps in the first few feet. I love the fact that it makes the stop start feature almost completely unnoticeable. It is smooth and seamless. And it helps smooth out the transmissions shifting.. this gentleman's test was not fair. He exceeded the max tow capability of this truck by 1200 lbs.
Of course this truck will be laboring to pull much more weight than it was designed to.
But the etourq really does not add much more power. I am very happy with my V6 especially with my fuel economy 19 city and 23 highway. If you are going to do regular towing this would not be the right power train combination.
I think the E-torque system is great for stop start but in terms of adding power when driving it really doesn't do muchb
I find it's not so much the weight of a trailer that adds alot of stress to a trailer, it's the number of wheels and the wind resistance. Weight plays a factor no doubt but get a trailer that isn't aerodynamic and see what happens.
I have a 19 GMC Canyon. With a V6 and pull a tandem axle enclosed trailer. Empty vs 4000lbs it still puts roughly the same load on the truck. It actually tows better with weight in it lol it doesn't get affected by wind and it doesn't bounce around as much.
whats that check engine light about?
I thought the same, plugged into it something about oil temp too high. Makes sense.
What years ram have this engine?
What year was this truck?
3.6 Chrysler is an outstanding engine
What temp range is normal for v6 pulling hills with out a load on highway? I watch my numbers go up to 230-233 and get worried
It seem a bit too high. Make sure the the cooling fan is kicking on.
Let's be honest, when they rate trucks for towing, they usually under rate it... And really its all about stopping them and your trailer is well equipped for that.. To me the payload number is the most important number and you're below that so Well done little ol V6 ram for sure...
That was my mindset as well. The engine was probably under a little more stress then it is truly rated for but everything else on the truck could handle this load. overall the V6 did the job and if you had a nice light trailer this engine would be a solid option!
You think payload numbers are under rated as well? Cause I feel like sometimes it is.
I’m sure they lower the actual towing and payload number as a legal cya so they have grounds to refute a lawsuit if someone overloads it.