RAM 1500 V6 3.6L Pentastar (E-Torque) **Heavy Mechanic Review** | Is It a Good Engine ??
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- Is the RAM 1500 V6 3.6L Pentastar a good engine? I review this V6 RAM engine as a Heavy Duty Mechanic and give you my opinion on if I think this engine is a good engine. I also speak about the benefits of the RAM 1500 E-Torque system on these new 3.6L Pentastar engines.
I Hope everyone is having a good Monday! I figured it was long over due that I took a good in-depth look at the v6 engine option for the RAM 1500 pick up trucks. The v6 is the base model for these trucks and RAM does sell a ton of these engines.
my my old RAM 1500 I had the 5.7L Hemi which was an awesome power plant but with the price of fuel being so high these days it would make sense for more people to be considering the more fuel efficient V6 3.6L pentastar option for these ram 1500 trucks.
Right off the bat the 3.6L pentastar v6 engine has tons of real world experience. It is extremely reliable engine. it came out in 2011 and has been around ever since. it has been the best selling engine for RAM for 6 years in a row. chryslers has made over 10,000,000 units and this engine has won many awards.
this engine was more efficient, more powerful and smaller then the previous v6 generation from chrysler. in fact the 3.6 pentastar had over 38% more horsepower then the previous generation of engine.
this pentastar has 305 horsepower and can tow up to 7,600lbs which is not bad for a base model v6.
but there are issues as well.
1. head failures.
- the driver side head would fail because of the valve seats getting too hot causing detonation. this issues was mainly from 2011 - 2013 but there are rumours that this is still an issue.
2. rocker arm failures
- rocker arm bearings were an issue and failing in the earlier model pentastar engines. from years 2011-2014 these were an issues. ram updated the bearings and the issues does seem to be resolved.
3. coolant system issues
- lastly there are issues with the coolant system mainly because of the sand casted heads leaving sand in the cooling system. this can clog the radiator and other cooling components.
In conclusion guys I think this engine is very reliable and will serve you well. but in terms of the application of a pick up truck it does have its place but I would much rather have the larger 5.7 hemi as the over fuel economy difference is not that dramatic whereas the power loss is pretty substantial.
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Love the 3.6 pentstar engine. No hemi tick and low idle oil pressure causing lifter and camshaft failure. 3.6 is the engine for me
I have a hemi with no hemi tick, most hemi’s don’t either lol.
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I’ve had both 5.7 hemi and pentastar . I love the hemi but it’s more problematic. My pentastar ram is more reliable in every aspect.
Exactly why im looking at the v6, my hemi has the lifter issue ( most guys i know do)
@@nonenone9286 so why did pentastar have a class action lawsuit in 2022 about the v6 lifter issues???
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Idk beats me ask your local dealer.
I’m speaking on my experience.
For me the pentastar has proven itself 10x over to be the better motor. Mine is about 11 years old now and doesn’t even hiccup.
I’ve owned a 21 Ram bighorn with the 3.6 in it and couldn’t be happier!
Just bought the same truck good power for me .
I have owned 3 vehicles with the 5.7 and 3 with the 3.6. I'm just going to start by saying that I've never gotten good gas mileage on a hemi engine, partly because it's inefficient and partly because smashing the pedal on a hemi makes everyone happy. I grenaded one 5.7 and had problems with the other 2 with the cylinder deactivation. I own a 2022 ram 1500 with the 3.6 etorque and besides a problem with the battery having "physical damage" when I first got the truck it has been great. I drive it slow, get good gas mileage, tows my 7x12 trailer perfectly and it is a great work truck. I plan to own the truck for at least 6 years so I mainly bought the v6 for reliability.
Note difference of "smashing the pedal on a hemi makes everyone happy" then the "drive it slow, get good gas mileage" which shows everyone that it's not the engine in this case, but the driver.
I'm on my third Ram with the 3.6L engine and loved them all! 250,000 km when I sold the last one which was still running beautifully. I felt like a traitor when it went out the driveway for the last time..
I've owned a 2015 3.6 with the 3.55 ratio for over 3 years now. Been very happy with it. I don't do a lot of towing, just a small camper in the summer. So it's perfect for me. Plenty of power for what I'm using it for. Great video as always!
Awesome to hear man! Thats exactly what the V6 is perfect for. Some lighter towing but still plenty of power and reliability to make a good solid truck
That makes it the perfect truck, 305hp and good fule mileage.
Can you give an update and tell us how it’s holding up
I have the 2023 ram 3.6l. Just got to 1k miles and it’s really smooth and way better on gas than my last gmc. I do miss my Sierra and that V8 but I added the Pedal Commander to the Ram. This helped with the slight lag in the throttle response. Next I want to add a new exhaust and air intake. That’s about all I can add lol. Great video
I own a 2019 ram with the v6 and so far so good. I use it hauling kids and occasionally getting groceries,mulch and odd furniture. I drive 10 miles to town and in the city driving. Plenty of power for my needs and has been dependable. I don't haul heavy loads or drive long distances. I also change the oil at 4000 miles
exactly what the v6 option is for! someone who enjoys the benefits of having a truck but does not need to tow 10,000 lbs. Happy it's treating you well!
Your straight up and giving a good regular man review. Speak the truth. Thank you
Good video. Had/have 2 pentastar engines (13-van and 19-1500) I bought for intended use. Mostly city, weekend cottage runs and some trailer work (pulling motorbikes). Both engines were solid and I didn’t really notice any lack of power for what I was doing with them. Tried my friends Hemi, was a gas to step on the pedal and have her snap too but I don’t normally do that with my Ram. All I want was the engine to be reliable, put the key in and go and do what I need it to do (haul kids and kit) safe and sound. Now the bikes on the other hand.. that’s for the fun factor!
1500 series truck doing light duty as designed for. In amusement, my kids were never heavy enough for me to need to use a truck.
Excellent video with lots of great information. Good clear voice and no crappy music in the background.
Very well done video! Your information was clear and accurate. I have a 2014 Ram 1500 with the 3.6. Been wonderful and plenty of power for me and I have pulled 5,000 lbs.
Hell I think it pulls more than what he said I pulled 8 rolls of hay at about 950lbs a piece with no problem
I just towed my 7,000lb boat 500 miles and it was no problem with mine
@@flynnryder7798 tow capacity on a single or occasional use is with designed capacity is different from daily with that same capacity on how can effect service life where chassis and braking is a factor as to why the 2500 and 3500 series should be considered.
@@Mauser1965 Of course. I occasionally haul my boat, and it is usually for short distances. This 500 mile trip isnt something I do often. If I was towing heavy weights every day, I would not want a 1500.
I will keep my 318 great engine simple no bullshit on it still running and driving it
Fair enough !
I have the 2022 Ram 1500 with the V6 and average 22.3. I mix highway and city driving. The current mileage is 24,000. Power is perfectly fine does rev high when you merge onto the highway. This is a company truck so I had not decision in the selection of the engine. That said I’m thoroughly happy with it!
22.3 is great mileage nothing wrong with that!!
Does the newer pentastar engines have a bunch of plastic parts?
@@joeshmoe8952 Not sure
I have a 22 V6. Built to Serve. Absolutely love this truck and it performs plenty well for me but I couldn't be more disappointed in my fuel mileage. Best I ever got on the highway was almost 20mpg from Tampa to Atlanta. Very flat..no wind. 70-75mph. Best I've ever gotten in town is 16. I dont beat it. I dont pull anything and I'm usually by myself. Not quite 10k miles. Getting ready for second oil change. Any suggestions? Did yours struggle during break in? Tires are 5psi over recommended psi.
I just bought the 2023 e torque 1500, currently at 2000 miles and 2 months old, I am averaging 20.5 combined highway and city…
Awesome video. Very thorough thanks for all the info!
Fantastic and informative review, thanks for posting! 👍
Oil pump solenoids die, camshafts wipe out, oil coolers leak everywhere and rear mains dont seal. That being said, this engine is solid if maintained. I work on these every day, and i would buy any vehicle with this in a heartbeat
The rocker arm problems are normally caused by the hydraulic valve lash adjuster getting plugged up. Good way to keep this problem from occurring is to add 1 oz of Marvel Mystery Oil per quart the oil change interval. Or, you could just about a week before you're going to get your oil changed at about a half a quart sometimes a full court, cuz it's going to be a little low, of Marvel Mystery Oil to the oil and run it for about a week before you get your oil change that will keep the inside of the engine really clean. And just for Giggles, a bottle of ATF will do the same thing. Automatic transmission fluid will also help the seals stay nice and resilient.
I had to replace an injector at 50k miles on my 2017 Ram V6. It cost me $250 cause I got the lifetime warranty. I'm happy with it at almost 100k miles now.
Imagine the cost to replace an injector on the ecodiesel v6 haha
A 3.6L dual overhead cam motor----with all the slick electronics that our engines have today---can create more than 1.3 horsepower per cubic inch without resorting to a turbo. And last a long time. Wife had a GMC Acadia that weighed almost as much as these 1500 Rams and that GMC never felt sluggish. The 3.6 RAM should feel even better with the hybrid system.
Just bought the 2023 6 cyl. , currently 2000 miles,,, great ride!!! Pick up with 20 inch wheels…
300hp V6 does great for 1/2 ton purpose gets 27mpg highway in 2wd version same as my minivan. I have 205k with no problems. Keep that oil changed like clock work & it'll last.
What year
I have a 2018. 21-22mpg is the best it does with real everyday driving. My commute is 30 miles one way half highway, half through town.
BS, no 3.6 get 27 mpg in these trucks unless you're rolling down a hill the whole trip. I have had mine for many highway trips driving empty and the best I've seen is 22.
My mother-in-law has a 2014 jeep grand Cherokee limited with the 3.6 L Pentastar V6. She’s currently at 147,000 miles and so far no issues from the engine. She’s a very gentle driver and just drives it around and to work. She has had one trouble code for an EVAP purge valve. But the area in which we live does not do emissions testing, so it doesn’t matter anyways to her. She loves her jeep. She’s always bought jeeps and I doubt she’ll buy anything else!
A good example, as those who beat on a vehicle and do not take care of it. Basically abuse it cannot expect it to last. Best found vehicles tend to be those owned by older folks that have been stored in a garage as well. aka "barn find"
I have a 3.6 Pentastar in my 2016 Chrysler 200. Had it since new. Not a lick of trouble. It is a good strong and reliable engine. As far as a full sized pick-up is concerned, I think for people who mostly use a pick-up truck like a station wagon, such as homeowners hauling something occasionally, it would be fine. If you need a truck to haul heavy loads a lot, it isn't the best choice.
Exactly, truck duty is defined by it's case use. i.e. 1500/2500/3500 Which is why many cases the heavier duty trucks overall tend to be resold overall, which proof can be seen on the market.
I have a 2018 Grand Cherokee with this engine (minus the E-Torque). Been very happy with it!
Facts same here👍🏿
I have a 2021 ram classic with the 3.6l, I haul a 7000lb enclosed construction trailer, quite frequently, little harder on fuel but stills pulls it like a dream
I picked up a 2020 4WD crew Bighorn about 6 months ago. Real world combined mpg is about 18.5. I did hit 24.5 on a leisurely drive on country roads. More than adequate power for my needs. At this point, I'm quite satisfied.
FYI...I have a 2017 standard cab 4WD, 3:55 rear, and I real world AVERAGE 21-24 most of the time except when towing my camper. Just telling you that to let you know how much you lose driving a crew cab. If you absolutely need one for family then it is what it is but if you really don't need one then the effort to find and buy a standard cab is well worth it. So many people buy crew cabs that never ever use the back seats for passengers because the dealers usually only stock 4 door trucks. That is a lot of extra weight to be carrying around for nothing all the time if you don't need it.
@@bultacowally hmmm wonder how much the quad cab would get it's slightly smaller than the crew cab
@wally walton then why is it rated at 23 & 19? My crew cab was and it gets nowhere near that. 16-18 combined if I'm lucky.
@@Rocketino1 23 hwy ?
I had the tick in my 6. $4000.00 fix just on one side @ 80000 miles but I still love it. It was in my 2014 dodge Durango.
Yeah I just got that in my 2014 grand cherokee but at 130,000 miles and I'm looking to get a truck and this is one of my options it's a 22 and he did say alot of the issues were fixed or at least better
Really nice video, thank you!
I own a 2022 1500 Ram with this engine and its Amazing better than my 2016 Ram HEMI that I had 😊
Hows it holding up a year later if you see this? I'm looking to get a 22 for a good deal with only 17k miles on it
Thx for the info on the pentastar V6 I just bought a 2023 & love it!! I love your 2500 Cummins diesel!! My next truck!!!
I own a 1500 with the 3.6L the 5.7L vs the V6 is only a difference of 305HP vs 395HP. I was trying to save money on gas and I dont tow anything more than 4000lbs. I owned the 5.7L in a challenger and it was a great engine to break the back tires loss lol loved it.
I have a 2014 with the 3.6, bought it with 35,000 miles. Now has 165,000 miles and have had zero problems and all I’ve done is regular oil changes and tune up at 100k miles, I even towed a 8000lb camper 60 miles to campground in the spring and back home again in the fall every year, for 4 yrs. Granted this is the northern Midwest with no hills, I wouldn’t recommend it anywhere else, but it got the job done every year. My neighbor has one with 275,000 on it.
they are very reliable engines. dare I say almost under rated engines.
I have a 2014 Ram 1500 4X4 with the 3.6 and a 2018 Grand Cherokee with a 3.6 as well. They have both been flawless through a combined 170,000 miles. The Ram consistently gets over 20 mpg in combined driving and 23 on the highway. The JGC add about 2 MPG to those numbers. I do some light towing (up to 5K) with the Ram and it handles it with minimal downshifting.
I baby my 3.6 liter motor in my Wrangler JL the same way I babied the 4.2 liter in my beloved 1986 CJ7 Renegade. Even though I use synthetic motor oil I still change it every 3,500 miles. Plus just like my CJ7 I only use 93 octane fuel. I purchased my CJ7 Renegade brand new and had it for ten years putting 157,000 miles on it. The body rotted out but the motor was quiet. I expect my Wrangler JL to easily hit 250,000 miles. It’s a great motor.
I had a 1500 reg cab 8ft bed Tradesman w/ 3.6, I absolutely loved it but towing capacity was only 4k lbs my trailer is 7k. I recently upgraded to a crewcab longbed 4x4 6.4 Hemi, tows great but a ruff ride.
2500 it's better to tow
I used to have a Pentastar in my old '16 Wrangler JKU, with 3.21 rear axle and a manual, and it was absolutely anemic - you really had to rev it out to get any kind of useful torque out of it. HEMI trucks (even a Power Wagon which I briefly drove) feel like muscle cars by comparison. I am sure it would've been a lot better coupled to an 8-speed ZF and lower rear-axle gears, but can't imagine having a 3.6L in a full-sized truck.
Same here 👍👍. I just simply prefer my Hemi and ZF. Two great great power plants and reliable.
3:21 gear ration 😂 no wonder! Yeah it’s OHC so it’s a high reving motor! Gears gears gears
I’ve had the 5.7 hemi, the 4.7, the Cummins , 318,360, and now the 3.6 with 3.21 gears. The 3.6 does all I need it to do and gets good gas mileage. If you want to really use a truck to tow move up to a 3/4 ton or higher. The 3.6 with the 8speed and 3.21 set is a much better combo for a daily commuter and tows anything you should be towing with a half ton . I think dodge did good with this combo for the majority of peoples needs. Have a blessed day.
Good info and analysis, thanks. I am considering the 3.6L in a Jeep
What's the year and what's the milage? I have a 2014 grand cherokee with this engine in it now I'm at 130,000 miles
@@couchpotato2160 I am looking for one 2016 and up with under $100K. I do not like the goofy shifter in the 2014-15 version that killed the Star Trek actor and had the huge recall
I own a 2018th Challenger with the pentastar 3.6. 120000km without any problems. Best engine Chrysler ever engineered. BR from Germany
I would agree they are great reliable engines!
2013 300 pushing 250k . Been flawless
@@leehancock2782 that’s great
@@leehancock2782 did you change the timing chain?
Facts and it does not burn oil like the chrysler 2.4 tigershark engines drinks oil like a muthafucker
this is honestly a great option. mild hybrid systems are far more preferable over just start stop as the hybrid part can get the vehicle moving while the engine is starting up. and using the 48v system to get it started saves the 12v crank battery from possibly going flat from usually not having enough charge time after starting the engine. great system to use on an existing platform and everyone i've talked to has enjoyed the systems.
I have a Chrysler 300 3.6 with 180k miles on it. Runs flawlessly and I easily get over 30mpg. I even push it as high as 37-38mpg. Around town I usually get about 20-25mpg, not too bad for a 4k lb car. I saw someone was mentioning the ZF transmission. The ZF is used in many forms and I think it was 3 HP ratings. 8HP45=450 hp, 8HP650? =650 hp, and one higher hp was something like 850hp. My car has the 8 speed ZF. It's an impressive engine! 300hp is nothing to be embarrassed about. The car wizard was talking up the Northstar which has like 325 and it's a V8. lol
Its actually the amount of torque it can hold in nm. 8HP45 = 450nm = 331.9 ft-lbs. 8HP70 = 700nm = 516 ft-lbs
All of your reviews are awesome. Will you ever do any on the Ford Ecoboost engines?
I owned a 1997 1500 with 5.7 hemi and liked it. Now own a 2015 1500 with 3.6 and like it. Tows my fishing boat great on the highway, no engine problems. Passes on 2 lane highways just fine. A few minor issues with other things on the truck, such as foldaway side mirrors not operating properly, but overall, very happy with the 1500 and the 3.6, will likely get another soon. Still researching the etorque configuration.
Good video with good info that current and future truck owners are interested in learning about when researching a truck purchase.
There was no 5.7 hemi in 97
My 2014 1500 has the 3.6L V6. I have 72k miles on it and it's had zero issues. It's been a work truck I'll keep for many more years
My 2017 has 72k miles and is brand new
This will be a perfect fit for the new Dakota
Have the 3.6 in my wife’s grand Cherokee. So far no issues
I had a 14 4x2 1500 RAM. Relatively speaking, I really liked how it performed. It did blow an oil filter gasket at just over 60k. I was told by the dealer that's been a known issue; expansion and contraction from hot to cold in the winter causes this. So now, I just trade them in before 60k.
I mean nothing wrong with riding out the warranty and getting a new truck. in reality every vehicle is made to last the warranty period and then fail after lol
Vehicles aren’t designed to fail at a certain mileage, they literally put millions of test miles on these vehicles before releasing them IE stress testing!
U work for dodge?
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@@JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf nope
Agree. Have noticed that most problems are linked to poor maintenance. Hemi tick, most videos show dirty and low oil. Family has a few 3.6. No problems of any kind. I do all my own maintenance so I would buy another ram. I never even go 5000 on oil. Always use full synthetic.
I had a 6.4 Hemi tick @2k & 4k then it went away after I did my first oil change? Hope it didn't hurt the engine.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this engine vs. the 5.7. One topic that you did not mention was cost of ownership; outside of the fuel cost differences. By this, I mean specifically maintenance. Assuming that the average person won't have your skill set for doing their own tune ups for example, what difference would you estimate there is between a tuneup for the 5.7 Hemi and the Pentastar. I'm imagining variables such as maintenance schedules for things such as spark plug changes, labor hours, or normal maintenance schedule parts costs. It would be great to get your take on this given your knowledge and expertise. Thanks again for really informative videos!
On a long distance trip holding 65mph I'm get 31mpg in my ram with the v6, but I seem to average 26mpg combined. Still well above the EPA rating
Come on man...
I would definitely rate the 3.6 a 4.5/5 stars. I bought mine brand new a year ago and have currently put 132k on it. Only thing I've had to replace is the 48V battery pack($3500), Fuel pump (1800) and we changed the spark plugs a few weeks ago. Only thing I hated most was. It took almost 6 hours to pull apart the manifold and accessories to change just 3 spark plugs on the driver side.
However, I do Long hauls with it across country. I have pulled 9600 through Arizona and CA mountains with no problem. The engine is actually made to hold a redline up hill and will hold 6k RPM and not blow up. I have been generally satisfied.
wow holding 6k RPM is no joke. I am curious about the battery pack though, because that's just too bad. personally I would rather the e-torque be an option and not come standard because I would want it for that exact reason.
@@TheGettyAdventures most reviews say they last 100k. It's part of the new ETorque system. Will definitely be getting another next year.
You've had it a year, spent an additional $5300 above the payments, and you are satisfied? We're the battery pack and fuel pump covered by the warranty?
Warranty ran out in first 6 mo with 75k miles. All cash outta pocket. Yes I am satisfied with it as I've put it thru every test and still going. 40k truck made me 500k this year. U tell me.
Currently @ 192k.
Something they have needed to do since the 3.9 is a factory supercharged 6 cylinder. Ripp makes an excellent kit for the 3.6 and for the life of me I can't figure out why stellantis won't do the same
at 11.3 C/R Stellantis cant make it emission friendly
I’m about to purchased my first ‘17 Ram V-6, wish me luck.
I have a '17 Ram with the 3.6L V6. Engine does not disappoint.
Love you're videos sir do you think doing a air intake and muffler delete would help keep the motor cooler so it could help with those minor problems
I agree with you. Pick up truck buyers have ability to select a truck based on intended use. If you live in a city and want a very versatile vehicle, this truck with the 6 cylinder is probably perfect. I drive 3/4 trucks because I operate a ranch, but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy the 1500 if I didn’t have that need for power. Modern pickup trucks drive almost like cars, so why buy a sedan or hatchback when can get the same amenities in a truck with much more versatility?
exactly, the modern 1500's are just like cars. they ride smooth and have all the luxuries of any vehicle.
The only thing I can think of is that people overload their trucks beyond what's legal. So many people I talk to had no idea tongue weight drops payload. Most 1500 trucks won't be able to safely tow a 7500 lb trailer either because of the tow restrictions or payload once they load up the family of four and all conveniences inside, not to mention what they put in the bed of the truck.
@@danielmonighetti3891 yep.! That 7500bs for a v6 is more like 5000 lbs. You just don't have enough payload like you said.
The ecodiesel was something along the lines of 30 mpg and i was averaging 33 on long highway trips back when i had one.
I really wanted to give the ecodiesel a shot. But cam gear sprockets breaking free, bearing failure, and crankshafts splitting in half is just too much risk. Hemi is no better with the lack of oil to the cam which causes the cam/lifter failure. Pentastar is your best bet.
But to ask another question. What will the fuel efficiency of the 3.0L Hurricane Engine be when it's introduced to the RAM Pickups. How will what compare with the 5.7L Hemi MDS and 3.6L Pentastar?
Every time an engine is failing it seems like a ticking issue. I had a 2010 Hemi 1500. 164,000 miles started getting misfire errors. We fixed those. Wasn’t aware it was known the lifters go. They went, it what actually was the misfires. Lifters shaved metal into the engine. Chrysler wouldn’t touch it. So I traded it in on a 2020 Ram Big Horn with the V6. I have enjoyed it so far. 27,000 miles after 2 years. Feels as quick as my hemi. Yes the hemi had more horsepower and can hit another level. But the pennistar with the etourqe takes off and quick. Would have been 30-60 days for a new engine from Chrysler and the same to rebuild from a separate shop. I have a business and needed a truck. Hate GM, never liked Fords I’ve driven. Tundra was changing models and it wasn’t released yet. So I bought what I like Dodge/Ram! Was planning on getting 2 more years out of that 2010 and hit close to 200,000 miles. But it didn’t happen. Loved that truck. It never in 11+ years ever left me stranded on the side of the road and I drove many many late nights. Wish I didn’t have to trade it. I’d have had it fixed. But it was the pandemic
I sold my 2014 jeep wrangler with the 3.6 with 140,000 miles. Still was running strong and showed no signs of wear
I have 2018 ram express with the 3.6 i added a cold air intake and cat back exhaust its a great engine
From reading all these messages, people only complain about the hemi tick, which isn't an issue at all. The first issue that was talked about in the video is enough to make a truck guy not want to get a V6 engine truck. I had a 2006 300C with a hemi w/ 300K miles (it was in a hit and run), 2013 300C hemi w/ 171K miles, loved it (sold it for my next car) 2018 300C V6 w/ 89K miles on it (sold it) 2013 ram 1500 hemi, had it for 5yrs now and all i replaced was a water pump. My buddy has a 2020 ram 1500 V6 engine and had to take it in cuz he was smelling fuel inside the cabin.
Ram van/peomaster is why it's "ram's" best selling engine.
I love love love my 3.6 2014 Challenger! 148k with a radiator fan replacement and a blend door actuator...really? All it has been is filters, fluids and fun. Put a Pedal Commander on it and hit the gas in the turns. I like how it develops power also, It almost has a Euro feel to it. I may add a Borla exhaust just to give it that nice sound.
I've got a '12 Ram with 148,962 trouble free miles. Use Mobil 1 5W20 oil in Summer & 0W 10 in winter. Change oil every 4000 miles. Bought it new.
I have a Power Wagon and 2019 ram 1500. I just picked up new 2022 GMC with a 2.7 turbo 4 cylinder. 430 lbs of torque for a Dailey work truck. Very impressive so far . I always thought Ram would turbo the pentastar at some time.
Well the inline 6 twin turbo engine should be replacing the the 3.6 pentastar at some point in the near future!
The GM 2.7t is a great engine especially if you tow in high elevations.
I have a 23 ram in V6, it's great. I had 2 previous rams in hemi, I don't mind the V6, still powerful.
Love mine
I've owned a couple of F150's with the 5.4 triton, and I once had one with the 5.0 coyote. I've also owned two ram 1500's with each having the 5.7. Last week I went and got a Ram with the 3.6. I have to admit that I was hesitant because I was locked in to the V8 world. I have to say I was shocked when I test drove the v6 drive train. I had no idea how well the v6 pulls this truck. Needless to say I was sold. And so far the mpg's are very impressive. I've put 250 miles on it and i'm still above half a tank. The majority of those miles have been city driving.
More than I can say about my Frontier! She likes to drink. Still a brand new engine though with 260 miles. Lol I get 15 mpg.
I was partial to ram, loved my 2011 ram and 06 Dakota rt. Figured I'd give Nissan's 3.8 a try.
Glad to hear your 3.6 ram is treating you well! I almost went with one. I might one day if my Nissan is a lemon.
@@texttwenty-nine1627 I've had my ram for seven months now. All said and done I would have went with the V8. The MPG's are only slightly better. And I sure do miss the power. If you get the v6 in a head wind it never wants to leave 6th gear. Which, needless to say kills the mileage.
Why did they discontinue the 4.7 L V8? I have the 2012 Ram with the 4.7 and it's a great truck with good power without being a gas hog. Great review, thanks.
Based on my experience and the fact of a class action suit on the issue, I’d be sure to have sufficient warranty coverage during ownership. The repair for P0302 costs $3000 at the dealership. It’s a great engine with up to 28mpg in my minivan. Made it to 135,000 miles.
135,000 miles is weak AF
My Honda odyssey is at 250,000 and is going strong.
Hello how are you doing I've been watching your video on the V6 Dodge I've got one in the pickup truck love it to death I'm a Canadian I drive to my Cottage 2 hours away up and down Hills my gas gauge reads 9.8 sometimes less on the gas gauge that's equivalent to 32 miles a gallon power is there for what I need I can pull a trailer no problem
Thats awesome fuel mileage!
Since you’re doing pros and cons, it might have been a good idea to note the hemi has issues too. Two ticks, 1) the header bolts break and you get a leak that ticks. $800 per side at the dealer because of busted bolt recovery. 2) the hemi tick. Which the odds of getting are near removed if you don’t idle. Just get in a drive.
What is the difference in the 3.6 V6 in the Ram 1500 Classic rated at 305 hp and the Promaster 3.6 rated for 276 hp?
I had a 2019 V-6 and the overall power was adequate at lower elevations, especially after I installed a pedal commander to get rid of the throttle lag (it had the 3.21 gears) during takeoff. In hilly or mountainous areas, it hunted the gears and regularly ran near 4k rpm's barely loaded to maintain interstate speeds. The truck itself was great, the 3.6 was merely okay. Also, my gas mileage was never close to the EPA ratings, whereas I regularly hit it with my 22' 2.7 F-150 and can still smoke a hemi. Waiting for the 3L Hurricane to arrive for the Ram' then I'm trading in my Ford lol
Yeah sure.... There is ALWAYS one of those "My car is faster than your car" guys in every motor vehicle comment section...Grow up little man nobody gives a F*** about your Ford truck
You're not smoking a hemi, you're smoking crack.
You’re definitely taking Fentanyl” if you think that pos F150 can take on a Hemi” an F150 can get up but, it ain’t no Hemi” try comparing it to Nissan Titan, GMC Colorado or Canyon
@@BlakWiseCracker lol good one bud. Meth fumes must be strong inside your slow hemi today
I have a 2015 Ram 1500 3.6 outdoorsman and it has 101,000 miles on it and I’ve had it since new and change with full synthetic every 7000 miles and sometimes less.Should I change the timing belt on it ? I have no issues or noises at all .
I’m curious about the longevity of the eTorque. For those of us that keep a vehicle for a long time, I’d hate to replace the Lithium battery, especially when they stop making that specific size/setup.
I was googling it after seeing a few people screaming to avoid the etorque. Looks like some lemon law class actions already underway and major etorque failures including kicking in the emergency brake while driving at highway speeds? Leaking rear windows hitting the battery, pcm failures. Just seems like headache.
I read the comments (some very informative) and listened to this video (very knowledgeable speaker) and here are my conclusions: for me, trailering a horse in the Sierra mountains is going to be a struggle at 7000 feet elevation even with my Brenderup trailer (1300 pounds empty, then add an 1100# Arabian) where I’ll be well within the GCWR for the Tradesman. I read one comment about the engine screaming at 4000 rpm in the mountains. That was a little scary. The speaker recommended using higher octane fuel which offsets the mpg advantage. It sounds like the V6 is for the flat lander hauling groceries. BTW, I test drove the V6 yesterday on the flat, not in the mountains, and not towing, and it was a nice truck so it is a good choice probably for the commuter. I also want 4x4 so I am not stuck on a dirt path in the mountains with my horse and trailer. I am keeping by 2005 Ram 3500 2WD (duh, why didn’t I have the sense to get 4x4 then-thought I was saving money then) for the big tows on pavement only (gooseneck horse trailer). The Ram 3500 has 95000 miles and is a beast and smooth as silk. With the 5.9L engine it pulls the 10,000#. Trailer in the mountains like a breeze running at 1,400 rpm about. Never a problem with that truck and its been to Montana and back to Cali.
The Pentastar is a great engine, it's easy to work on and parts are not to crazy. If you have basic tools and experience you can work on them.
This one is different. It has etorque
I have a 2015 ram 1500 3.6l pentastar engine with 256,000 mile still runs like new only problem I’ve have is I replaced the lifters twice so far and it always wear out on the driver side cylinder 7
I've had 4 cars with the 3.6 and never had a problem with them.
I have a 2016 3.6 with 427k on it and a 2019 with 208k and they both run great, and the 16 model is way faster out of the 2
Really??? I wonder why that is. maybe different gearing? but either way 427k for a "modern engine" is phenomenal
I have a 2014 with the pentastar. The oil sender went spewing oil all over the engine bay... probably due to severe cold temperatures (-42 degrees). It's a know weakness in the engine.
Do you think the open block design is contributing to the head gasket problems like in the Ford inline 4 cylinders
Own a 16 3.6. 80k miles no issues thus far. I heard the 8 speed trannys are good for ever too. made by some German apparently.
I’m picking up a v6 midnight edition thurs crew cab with the 12 inch screen hopefully I’m not disappointed
my 2019 1500 classic 3.6 gets an average of 22.8 mpg in San Francisco bay area traffic with 89 fuel
Ticking sound could also be the rockers...ive changed 6 on mine
There is one other known issue with the Pentastar, that being the cheap plastic oil cooler which tends to crack & fail. It's located on top of the block right down under the upper intake for some reason and thus just sits down there between the cylinder banks baking away; when it lets loose due to repeated heat cycles it can either leak oil and/or coolant externally or internally (which is not good, as oil & coolant don't mix), and is a big job labour-wise to get to. The are after-market aluminium ones that solve this problem though.
I had a 2013 Ram 3.6. Now i have a 2019 Hemi. The Hemi is definitely more powerful but sometimes I miss the V6. My Hemi does not have etorque and i hope it doesn't develop the Hemi tick. The Hemi is competitive with gas mileage. I got 19 average with the V6 and i get 18 with the Hemi.
Do you think transmissions s changed are actually needed on this model?
always had cars ...will b my 1st pup truck....want to compare....dont need hemi...too much gas...didnt even knw it makes 3.6 penastar....which they put in dodge grand caravan.....thats what i got in my 2020 ......just want a pup truck to move household items thats all......
so just want to compare..... good 2 hear that u saying its more reliable then HEMI........cant imagine how much gas it drinks....its like me drinking water......LOL......
good video.....good review.................
My 2019 ram 1500 with the 3.6 has had so many issues. Spent about 7 total months at the dealer getting work done. BCPM failure, had to have the e-torque batter replaced, coolant leak, transmission sensor replacement, oil leak, rear speed sensor failure. Would shut off at low speed, not to mention the A/C sucks from factory.
Did Dodge fix the ticking issue on their engines?
Are you saying a Promaster is more reliable than a Transit? for powertrain
Have you done the f150 powerboost?
So, the question begs, if I’m not towing anything, and I’m pretty much just doing city driving (I want “Real” 4WD, not the Quadra-Trac I on the new Grand Cherokee Altitude X), and I don’t plan on doing any hauling (I really want a truck because they’re super safe, and I like a lot of space), would I be dumb for getting the Hemi? I’m planning on buying a new 2023 Big Horn.
My 14 has the hemi my 17 has the 3.6. My v6 does what my hemi can do without being in the shop as much 🤷🏻♂️. I just don’t get that hemi rumble which I can trade for reliability
The spark plug fires before top dead center. Detonation can happen at the same time as the spark plug firing, but now two places are making pressure and not the way the engine was designed to run.
yes technically the spark plug fires before, but I didn't want to get too technical lol
The 3.6 is an okay engine, but the 5.7 hemi is definitely a better engine for a full size 4x4 truck. If you watch Fastlane truck, Stubby, their brand new 3.6 Pentastar 4x4 Ram 1500, was struggling towing 5000lbs. Now that was at 7% grade doing the world's toughest towing test the Ike gauntlet but my point is still valid. I'd say if you plan to do any sort of towing or use it as a work truck make sure you get the 5.7 Hemi option.
I saw that video. The problem was the gear ratios. They were going too fast for second and too slow for third. They had 3.21 gears. It needed the 3.55 gears. It would have gone at least 10 mph faster since it could have pulled more rpm in third.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q you're right they were at the top of second and the bottom of third but in my humble opinion 3.55 gears wouldn't have helped much vs the 3.21s. That's not a huge difference in gearing maybe 300 RPM at the same speed which wouldn't have been enough for that little V6... now maybe if they had like 4.11 gears it would have definitely made all the difference but that would kill fuel economy when you're not towing so much you might as well have the hemi
As long you don't do excessive idle on those hemi then you good
Stubby with a 3.21 is rated to pull around 4800lb, would be factory over 7000lb rating with the 3.55 believe it or not.
*Please Advise* I have the same truck and without towing anything or hauling any payload at all, just me in the truck my engine temp hits 3/4 within 20 seconds of any legit hill. This worries me so much I actually avoid hills if I can. I know my thermostat is opening correctly, the e-fan also works fine, I have a new RAD..What if anything could be the problem? Water pump? maybe belt not tight enough? any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
I really like my 2019 with the 3.6. I average 18 mpg but I run A/T tires and the stop / start is deactivated. I notice you did not mention the largest problem - oil cooler leaks due to heat / over cranking of the oil filter cap.