My opinion; EVE Frontier is solving problems that arose from Eve Online. Its not "Eve Online 2.0"... Its what "Eve Online" could have been with different factors that are "now".
To best honest EVE Online is already the perfect game to implement blockchain and play2earn mechanics, we just can't add the option to convert ingame currency into RL currency because of all the ingame wealth accumulated over the decades. But a brand new game/server could pull it off easily.
Major thing that killed eve. Where's holding it back? Is the CEO wants micro transactions? And the player base was built off of the opposite. They come up with tons of great ideas. They don't roll them out, they waste money on failed f.P s games
We want a good game! We don't need it to be tied to an NFT. However, due to the currently stagnated state of funding the game developers get, it might not be a bad 'engine' to give birth to it.
@@lorumerthgaming I've bought several nfts for the video games, enjin coin solved that years ago, turns out most of them were scams, and the rest ether migrated to their own tokens or died out due to their massive pay for advantage game play. It gameifies microtransaction and makes gambling the focus. They become ether idol games or pvp slot machines.
I personally think that we are behind the ball on where gaming should be. With the advent and uprising of AI and hardware acceleration... i feel we should have already been traveling down this road. The fact that CCP is giving it an honest go and is willing to push the boundaries to get us there is remarkable, and i feel they aren't getting the respect they deserve. We gamers need something like this. Space is the perfect setting for this type of integration, and i honestly am on the edge of my seat in anticipation to play. I love Eve. I am grateful for CCP evolving in this manner, and i really hope it works out! Let's support the developers of our favorite game. Lets give them the best possible outcome with this by standing behind them and giving it a truly honest go.
Tbh I'm concerned, generally with mmos they are managed through databases, this can be managed and edited by the admin team. If you're running all your transactions through blockchain, that is simply a record of all the transactions... If something goes wrong... IE your account is hacked and someone takes all your stuff...you can't reverse that with blockchain.
@@Juvyss If the infrastructure you rely on in game, that is coded by a player, is found to have vulnerability to an exploit, and you lose all your assets, there is no going back. The chain is immutable. And there is going to be strong incentive to find these exploits by criminals. Because the reward will be real world money. These player coded assets are going to become the low hanging fruit of the cyber-crime world. Blockchain offers absolutely no new features to the player that couldn't be done with a regular database, however it brings with it a dozen caveats, downsides, vulnerabilities, and inefficiencies.
The infrastructure thing to me seems like its going to be more customizable structures and assemblies and whatnot. Like space engineers, where you can build out a robot to mine in a specific area using scripts, or manage rescource production automaticly. I imagine youd be able to deploy a ship to an area and give it comands. That could mean one player could field a comand ship and 10 cruisers and comand all of them with one account. By using scripts to tell the ships what to do. That seems more feasable to me than being able to add content from scratch. This could potentially level the playing field so to speak amongst players.
That feeling when - even the Eve Online devs can't replicate their own game. It's crazy to me that eve is decades old and to this day has never had an actual clone. Not one single game has ever offered what Eve does. No Man's Sky *almost* feels like it has the potential - but there is basically no pvp or multiplayer in that game and it's far too simplified to compare with Eve. Eve is truly the most unique game ever created. Some day I believe there *will* be a spiritual successor to Eve - but Frontier, in my opinion, will not come close.
Nice video! Eve Online was pretty much a blockchain game without the blockchain elements. It will take CCP to make the first most successful blockchain game. Honestly, this has brought me back and I will see you in the Frontier!
From everything I'm reading, and from what I'm understanding, "create your own currency" might be similar to LP in current Eve, meaning that the success of your corp would likely directly affect the value of your currency that you've created and associated with your corp and your unique items, directly owned by you and attributed to you with Blockchain Tbh, as a developer, this is looking sick, I'm hyped Time to brush up on my crypto skills I do think this will give a HUGE advantage to professional developers, either way, I'm freaking hyped!
So now I have to worry about getting rug-pulled or pump and dumped in a video game? I think everyone is vastly overestimating how many people are interested in having to do research on their ingame player-created currency to see if its legit or a scam. And then even if it is legit it could be rug pulled at any time. So picture the BoB espionage event, but now make it something that can be turned into real world money, and that might tank the value of your currency if it is sold off en masse after a large theft. God speed.
This is Eve Online with a fuel mechanic, all ships are Tier 3 variants and all your assets and economy is bound through NFT's and Blockchains. It's literally a game no one asked for.
@@lorumerthgaming It's true though. I'll bet this will be one of the most short lived games they have ever made. (and CCP do have a few miscalculations) Unless they are willing to put in of life support of course, when it's dying out.
@@Juvyss Let's just wait and see. Out of the 14 games CCP has had in development since 2003 only two are officially running and one of those is a mobile game, the other is Eve Online.
if you want ideas on what to code, i would start with fuel stations with shield modules that protect the ships fueling up and large truckstops that allow material storage and fueling up. the truckstops should have codes that allow 2 or more haulers run a relay style supply chain. like if i haul 1000 units of something 10 jumps to the truck stop i can put a password that allows my corp mate to take it out and deliver it to the next truckstop 10 jumps away and so on allowing for very long supply chains.
I've look extensively into working Crypto/NFT into games (I worked in a medium sized game development company.), the issue is that the value of the currency itself being tied to gameplay creates 2 opposing forces that can never work together. These forces are Game Balance and Currency Value. The only reason why the currency has value, is because of limited amounts of it in the ecosystem. Adding any more currency will immediately cause the value of the currency already in circulation to drop. So how would these 2 forces work in tandem? On one hand, you've got hardcore players trying to earn as much real life money as possible, and thus going for meta builds (In this case, meta codes? lol), crushing casual players using time and experience. So who props up the economy? The new players, those that, on joining, realize the limited amount of currency all goes to the top 10% of players. And what happens then? They leave, because they're not making real life money. The game will start hemorrhaging new players. Who will pay to buy the currency from the top 10% once there's no more new blood? Would the developers just start buying back Currency to keep it's value up? NFT/Crypto currency aside, I'm also afraid of how the game will look once it's opened to modders. Look no further than Entropia Universe and/or Second Life to see how messed up the aesthetics of the game will become if left unpoliced. All in all, I'm very skeptical about Eve Frontiers. I'm almost certain it will fail within a year of release.
Economics matter. There was a huge change in Eve when they made Plex, and it wasn't a good one. Then when Alpha/Omega comes along they're basically encouraging multi-boxing which other MMOs are trying to stamp out. God knows how many people actually play anymore, but I suspect it's not that many at all.
@@davidrobertson9174 My current napkin-math equation is to take whatever my corp's current member : character ratio is and divide the player count by that. Ours isn't a very big or extremely active corp, but at the time of writing this our corp's current ratio is 4.34 characters per player. So I would divide the current player count (34,313 at the time of comment) by 4, and that comes out to just under 8,600 players.
@InvokeZero probably not a bad method! Given that some of those are not "paying" for their accounts (using isk for plex etc) it's remarkable Eve has lasted so long. Then again, it's one server running largely 20 year old tech, so maybe not too surprising! China is a wildcard too with that server.
It is an amazing game! I loved the closed alpha. I see it as every lesson learned from Eve reimagined. A true feeling of dread and wonder . At first i felt like starting over would be burdensome but i soon fell in love with discovering the new!
The ability to build a destroyer class mining ship or a command cruiser class mining foreman. Rather than risking a big slow orca you could split that into 2 command cruiser size ships to act as a mining foreman team one to buff and one to compress. And you can be much more nimble in risky space at the expense of having to use multiple ships.
I WISH ITS GOOD. I WISH THE THE CRYPTO PART IS NOT SCAMMERS PARADISE. I only started playing eve online and have been enjoyiing the game thus far but its overwhelming and feels unfair how big alliance groups have anchored themselves in certain parts of space, I HOPE we get something like the systems reset every week or month so then peoople get a chance to get those spaces themselves. I WISH ITS GOOD and I pray they find a way to make this lucrative WITHOUT making it TOO MUCH PAY TO WIN.. SAY IT WITH ME: NO PLEX PLEASE!
If you want that space, find a group of players and go take it. You say its unfair they already had the space but wouldn't the "reset" you mentioned be unfair to players who have been playing for a long time. There is nothing stopping you from taking that space for yourself.
@@yrga7195 its supposed to be hard. Eve isn't a single player game. i never said it was easy. I said theres nothing stopping you. But your right, i was wrong. There is something, the people you are trying to take it from.
@@Juvyss ur nt wrong, nothing is stopping me from "trying" . it sounds fun to take ono corps with your friends. its just VERY tedious, I can only imagine in my head the stuff I need to prep and the time I need to invest. In Frontier, not EVERY systems needs to be what I suggested wherein its a blackhole influenced systems that in some way resets the owner like every month or whatever interval. I just want others to have a chance. There is NO that the 100 people corp Im in right now will even get a sniiff of any system against Horde or Goons, they will defend that. not so related note - Horde has this "rent a system" niche (its smart ngl, business-wise)
There isEVE Online, EVE Frontier, EVE Vanguard, EVE Echoes, EVE Galaxy Conquest... What CCP want to prove? And prove to who? I think thats what makes it fall.
@@lorumerthgamingPeople want FINISHED NEW GAMES. Not half baked in development crap. EVE online 2 with 64 bit rather than 32 bit operating system would be a massive upgrade. Just in logistics alone. Having to train people to code on a 32 bit coded system to interface with modern 64 bit systems on code that they literaly can not work on in some parts (POS's) because the people who made it and know how to fix it are all dead or retired. Would PROBOBLY be a good investment. Then port over the players. You now have room to do nice and new things with a massive pool of new coders alredy trained fresh from schools to hire into dev teams. Development overhead can be reduced by 70 to 80%.
The twitch stream confirmed for me personally that CCP has just told Eve online nulsec that they can own and kill new eden... we got better things comming.
We all know and love current Eve. It seems sad to me that they can’t concentrate efforts on putting in really cool content for Eve online such as these features rather than making another game for MEGA nerds and coders, where the average joe like myself will have an extremely hard time competing against someone with even the slightest bit of code knowledge. I don’t want current Eve to die and I hope they both interact in some way so that the current eve doesn’t die.
@@lorumerthgaming As a 21 year vet of EVE Online, EVE O has been on life-support for a long time. It's not a skeleton crew running it like other MMOs that are actually dying, but the bulk of the development numbers that worked on EVE online in its earlier days have been moved to other projects or laid off. EVE has stagnated. There are still a ton of people who love it, but it is definitely in a rough place.
I think they've tried to bundle too much into one thing. Blockchain-enabled modding could be good, but maybe experiment with it in a more controlled environment first? Tying it up with a survival-esque game, and a more physicalised control scheme, means if any one of those doesn't land correctly, the whole project will flop. Unfortunately I'm reminded of Eve: Valkyrie, where they did some real engineering boundary-pushing, but the basics weren't covered, and the VR stuff wasn't the winner CCP expected it to be.
soo, what is your thoughts on the casual weekend warrior (like myselfe) game play in this game? looks like an incredible game for coders and developer style players. i have not really looked into this but just a thought that popped up. great cover of the development, keep it up o7 ! God bless!
@@lorumerthgaming oh wow scary what this will do to EVE then. Seems so similar that it looks like they will kill EVE if this works. Unsure why they did not try to merge. People have dedicated their lives to build eve. Will be sad if it dies. May be slow at first but if EF takes off and works there is no way EVE won't die in the long run.
@@lorumerthgaming Hmm then in that case what worries me and a lot is that, being so similar to the eve genre, if this takes off and works EVE will eventually die. It will not be fast, in fact it will be slow but being a game to get into and has a long term investment I can't see it lasting more than 5 or so years after success for EF before we start seeing the beggining of it suffering. This is sad for me having played since 2005. I would love to be positive and believe they would maintain and push both but I don't see it and even if they did the player base is about long term investment and they will see EF as a better long term investment.
So potentially you will be able to play this game and enjoy it for couple of years and than sell everything you own convert to crypto and cash out :) . I am in.
I feel weird here, maybe i am not alone, but I am going to ask... Do you feel like this "Upgrades" from the classic EVE online cannot just simply justify a complete new game? For me it feels like this features are in a way included in EVE online, or plainly against the EVE online principle (I am referring to the part of the manual control on this point). I don't see the justification for a completely new game anywhere... and the topic of ERC721 (A.K.A. NFT standard of the crypto currency Ethereum) is not something that I complete see as a positive thing... in my honest opinion, the possibility of adding player currencies is something that could render the whole game absurd. Why I am gonna use currencies driven by players when there is a currency driven by CCP in the game? what is the point? Is it chaos for the fun of the fun of chaos? I try to imagine a game where you can create your money and each of us does exactly that... we will see hundreds or thousands of currencies used by very little amount of people and then a few corps or alliances using their currencies between them. So at the end there will be a monopoly of the big ones and that is all? How are we gonna be able to compare the value of one currency towards the other? That part only, transferring values between currencies is already a heavy headache in real life due to volatility. I don't know if it is gonna be fund to play a simulator for speculate with the volatility changes.... There are literality virtual account on crypto exchanges for that.... you don't need to play a game to do that... I don't know, please somebody tell me your thoughts about this. It feels really confusing for just a videogame to play excel spaceships at the end of the day....
Line of sight? This alone would completely transform the current Eve-Online as we know it. The ability to hide behind structures or rocks? If that was introduced to the current game it would drag in massive numbers. No doubt thousands of people will tell me that this is unworkable but there it is. I'm sorry but I don't need a new game, I just want Eve-Online to get better (as it continues to do so). I consider Eve Frontier a betrayal to the player-base by CCP that got them where they are.
I think those changes would likely mean major rewrites in-terms of code, and that this is why they opted for the new platform That said, I also think alot of people like Eve the way it is, and this is most likely the better way to go, rather than uprooting the main platform and player base.
I have to agree with the mentions of possible scam in the sense of the involvement of blockchain. Involve it with AI, and we're setting ourselves up for failure due to lack of innovation. In truth its an awesome concept with the projects, but the human element is truly being ignored which leaves me to feel this is just another crypto scam but now on an "open market" and repeatable. Worse than Logan Paul, and that's a hard stander to beat. Perhaps I am wrong, and hope I am.
I don't know shit about the EVE / EVE Online worlds but I found you entertaining a hell - I sub'd and Liked the vid - let's see if i'm an convert - TTFN - TF
I loved f'ing stuff up with highly mobile instalock arties... having cover and rewarding good player input sounds great. I might return just to have a look. Regards Etton Veil
I really hope they (ccp) bring something really new and special with this game. Otherwise I can just play Elite Dangerous that already has 10y in development.
Im interested in a survival take on eve. And as ive said before, plex is essentially a crypto you cant exchange to get back real money, its a one one crypto. All premium currencies are just lesser versions of what block chain is essentially doing from what i see. So hey, uf i can get money out of my eve time, thats be pretty cool. We already have plex fluctuate with market prices and all the jazz.
@25:40 Bingo! You nailed it. Successful MMOs were successful because they were good games that attracted the _right crowds._ WOW was supported by social players. EVE-Online was supported by escapees (from reality). FPSes/MOBAs were supported by individualistic exhibitionists buying vanity skins to 'show off'. Crypto games inevitably attract hackers, rug-pullers and speculators.
I really really hope they do real docking functions and proper real animations for picking up cargo like a tug or nothing pops out and picks up the cargo I want it to feel real The issue with eve online is the fact suddenly the technology got weird asif eve ships stations and what not could just be put together from thin air when I always imagined it more like a building operation when I always thought if it as more of a tech limitation but then they started making it lore and I lost interest
If I remember some one Eve online earlier trailers correctly this universe sounds like the other side of the Eve gate.... th-cam.com/video/T84nrp08MWo/w-d-xo.html Maybe this game is Present day in eve online to the origin cluster?
Open source code looks amazing! This will be the new level of player run sandbox MMO's. I love the idea. This is the future of gaming! Imagination our only limits!! CCP R OG's
@@lorumerthgaming I don't think people understand the expansion. Coding using chatGBT will be insane!! It has A DAY Z feel too. I don't think you understand the blockchain. Understanding what A token is Vs A coin and the fundamentals of Crypto are perfect.
Im a long time player of eve but im old and nothing about coding makes any sense to me. I want to try this but it sounds like if you cant code and program you cant really do much of anything. I mean I know there will be normal game play but if people can just design better ships and stations and things just sounds like it will be really unbalanced for those that just want to play and no knowledge of coding.
It’s really a shame, as someone who has now been an active eve player for 18 years, with 5 accounts.. I only see the same pattern, CCP making games that are eve online like, but in the end only break even or almost destroy the company financially there is a reason that dust514, walking in stations failed, because ccp was busy making a vampire mmo. I think then working on the new dust re boot could make them wayy more money than this garbage here will. I still don’t really know what this trailer is suppose to show me. Instead of this, they should be working on Eve online 2, which they could roll out by idk like 2025/2027 and have it made on non legacy code, with a plan to properly port the community over or have it be a fresh launch… idk. This seems like another flop.
@@ViperXSS2 It would take *significantly* longer than 2-3 years to rewrite EVE onto a new engine, even if all of the developers were already well-trained on it. But they're most likely not, which means they'll have to learn it, which takes time, and that'll slow everything down, which only makes it worse. You'd be lucky to see EVE 2 on a new engine before 2030, even if they started today with a system they already knew. That being said, they would have to port the player base and all of their assets over to the new system. There is no other way to do it. Way back when Counterstrike updated to CS:Source, that fractured the community to a point neither ever really recovered to the same level as before the split. That was on a drop-in drop-out game with little to no investment. EVE has players who have been playing and investing into this game for up to 20 years. Thousands of dollars and several thousands of hours being wiped because of switching to a new engine would all but guarantee the game's, and CCP's total collapse. I can tell you with *absolute certainty* that I would not switch to the new game if all of my assets were wiped in the process. I have ships built by friends who are likely not even alive anymore that hold immense sentimental value to me. There is no upgrade to this game that can convince me to forego the thousands of dollars and years of time invested into this game for another. There simply isn't.
The biggest mistake with Frontier is making it too exclusive. If they want it to be exclusive, then don’t put it under the same banner as EVE Online, which is a completely different genre. What did CCP expect? That multiboxing pilots would suddenly switch to a first-person shooter? Sure, some might try it out of curiosity, but they’re not sticking around for long.
Off the Grid popped truth is a16z and others invested 40m into this game if i were you i’d pay for Claude or GPT because this game is going to have AI Agents from day one remember you can run a program and the model can see your screen think of it as rp your clone has a mindmate latticed layered ai core
For me combat in EVE has always been lacking and boring. It's 99% strategy, tactics and patience and less skill based. Compared to Elite Dangerous for example, I much prefer the combat simulation Elite provides. Why I never gotten into PvP in EVE Online, except for market PvP.
I love the energy you bring to your videos. That said I hate dark games I cant see chit and writing code? Have they lost their minds. The hiding behind structures. I like that
@jaroslavoswald7566 Get gud scrub! We did not need to know you have "timming issues".😅 I hear what your saying though. It could be better. That said, using the arrow keys in places tjat are crouded to not bump into things and keep your velocity up is critical in some fights.
@@lorumerthgaming It's a feature only used by weirdoes and high level players in cluttered environments. Like battles with lots of wrecks. Orbit at a set distance is fine when you have no colidables. But in an asteroid field or battle with lots of ships in mele range. You run into something and lose velocity, you are dead. Orbit and place camera aiming ahead of your ship to keep a lookout for colidables and it does not effect your combat preformance at all if you are using the overlay systems, but gives you a look at OH SH!T A WRECK IS IN MY PATH!!!! UP, DOWN, LEFT OR RIGHT ON AROW KEYS FOR A FEW SECONDS!!!! Dodged the thing, reset orbit and camera. Continue. 0 loss on inertia. There is also changing uour orbit path manualy to avoid flying in almost straight lines into or away from your enemys alies. And by wreck I mean you in a few moments after you hit the colidable in battle.😅
Not really... Like EVE where you can play the game without having to mine and build everything on your own from scratch, you can just use what others have created and play the game.
@@nekonari22I agree but the ending of your sentense should be "...and pay for it". It depends on how fair the prices will be and how transparent the stats and benefits are per $
I’m still trying to wrap my head on why do we need a game like this when EVE Online already exists just fine? All this seems to be is a different take on what already is, comes across as fixing what isn’t broken.
After 4 days of playing i can say this... Its not a game, its a job XD And BTC is in a monthly bull. And meme coin are a thing again... Madness will happen when we will go live on mainnet.
The fact that a ship in Eve will be the same 5 years from now as it is today is WHY it can never be a real economy...... holy shit... no... Ready Player One is fiction.
Loru Gaming my god can you just shut up and just let it play some you do not needd to stop it every 5 sec. and say something about the video it would be great if you had let it plce for like 5 to maby 10min then stop the video and talk about it some of us would like to see more then 5 secs at one time. yes i do know you need to stop the video and talk about it for copy sec of it by god thoe do you like i have said every 5 secs or so. i am only at the 5 min mark and all ready to stop watching it no matter how much i like to watch the video. if i did watch this video for the whole 48 minutes of it i would go insane just from listening from you talking way to much. i get it you love eve.
How are they going to keep people from clowning the entire game up like every other "Second Life" style "code your own ingame stuff" dumpster fire? Sounds great on paper but in practice this is an awful idea. Imagine if ALL Skyrim mods were mandatory and added to the game in real time with no way to opt out. In other words, literal blinking green and pink penis ships everywhere. Also blockchain... FML.
Can you imagine using AI, like chatGPT to hard code your own stuff, like copy and paste, can you imagine that? These guys think in 100 years in the future, no, maybe 1000 years.
EVE Online is a social game so the n+1 is very important. Local Chat is also very useful and good but if you don't like it then fly in worm holes. What CCP need to do is make the game free and cross platform. They can get paid by taking a very small commission per trade, no bots, no 3rd party apps so people use the game. EVE has always played like an unfinished game so they need to fix the mechanics, exploits and bugs. CCP need to be honest with themselves and learn from their mistakes. Finally, users are not the best source of ideas, game developers are. It's like letting kids set the curriculum at a school. CrazinessOfTheInternet is one of the best people to explain what is needed. EVE Online is dead for a reason. At the end of the day, Frontier sounds more like getting a job rather than offering fun.
I appreciate this is a frontier vid but you mentioned Vanguard. Its not something new. We saw it in Dust 514. I was heartbroken that game didn't work. I PRAY CCP makes some good moves with both of these games
So being nft-garbage by default makes all people being wrong about game? Thats rofl. We already have usual eve, noone asked for nft-survival-idiotic eve "2.0"
if its pay to play, more than just a sub, its dead on arrival. Pay for gas bahaha. The only game that exists thats been able to pull something like that off is Entropia Universe, ammo costs $ but then u can withdraw for real $ to your bank ( of course 99% of players lose)
@lorumerthgaming I will bet you 101 isk, if the game costs $ to play it will die almost instantly. Make that 201isk! I don't mean just a sub, but paying for "gas" or whatever
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If you make your product with love, then ppl will see it
No effort goes unseen, but may go undervalued. But thats for the consumer to decide.
If you can make real world money grinding in a game, then that is no longer a game, that is a job.
True
People make money from their hobbys all the time
@@BindimR Absolutely. But it does affect how you feel about your hobby when it becomes a source of income.
@@MrLogic85 Fair enough!
If you make your product with love, then ppl will see it
No effort goes unseen, but may go undervalued. But thats for the consumer to decide.
My opinion; EVE Frontier is solving problems that arose from Eve Online. Its not "Eve Online 2.0"... Its what "Eve Online" could have been with different factors that are "now".
A fantastically interesting point
To best honest EVE Online is already the perfect game to implement blockchain and play2earn mechanics, we just can't add the option to convert ingame currency into RL currency because of all the ingame wealth accumulated over the decades. But a brand new game/server could pull it off easily.
Major thing that killed eve. Where's holding it back? Is the CEO wants micro transactions? And the player base was built off of the opposite. They come up with tons of great ideas. They don't roll them out, they waste money on failed f.P s games
If you make your product with love, then ppl will see it
No effort goes unseen, but may go undervalued. But thats for the consumer to decide.
We want a good game! We don't need it to be tied to an NFT. However, due to the currently stagnated state of funding the game developers get, it might not be a bad 'engine' to give birth to it.
This is not 'tied to nfts.'
The digital items are usable in game, not just some jpg lol
@@lorumerthgaming I've bought several nfts for the video games, enjin coin solved that years ago, turns out most of them were scams, and the rest ether migrated to their own tokens or died out due to their massive pay for advantage game play. It gameifies microtransaction and makes gambling the focus. They become ether idol games or pvp slot machines.
I personally think that we are behind the ball on where gaming should be. With the advent and uprising of AI and hardware acceleration... i feel we should have already been traveling down this road. The fact that CCP is giving it an honest go and is willing to push the boundaries to get us there is remarkable, and i feel they aren't getting the respect they deserve. We gamers need something like this. Space is the perfect setting for this type of integration, and i honestly am on the edge of my seat in anticipation to play. I love Eve. I am grateful for CCP evolving in this manner, and i really hope it works out! Let's support the developers of our favorite game. Lets give them the best possible outcome with this by standing behind them and giving it a truly honest go.
Yes 10000%
Tbh I'm concerned, generally with mmos they are managed through databases, this can be managed and edited by the admin team. If you're running all your transactions through blockchain, that is simply a record of all the transactions... If something goes wrong... IE your account is hacked and someone takes all your stuff...you can't reverse that with blockchain.
@@Rigi01 make a good pasword
@@Juvyss If the infrastructure you rely on in game, that is coded by a player, is found to have vulnerability to an exploit, and you lose all your assets, there is no going back. The chain is immutable. And there is going to be strong incentive to find these exploits by criminals. Because the reward will be real world money. These player coded assets are going to become the low hanging fruit of the cyber-crime world.
Blockchain offers absolutely no new features to the player that couldn't be done with a regular database, however it brings with it a dozen caveats, downsides, vulnerabilities, and inefficiencies.
@@taiidaniblues7792 cool story brother
A game that is going to complicate my taxes
Same
The infrastructure thing to me seems like its going to be more customizable structures and assemblies and whatnot. Like space engineers, where you can build out a robot to mine in a specific area using scripts, or manage rescource production automaticly. I imagine youd be able to deploy a ship to an area and give it comands. That could mean one player could field a comand ship and 10 cruisers and comand all of them with one account. By using scripts to tell the ships what to do. That seems more feasable to me than being able to add content from scratch. This could potentially level the playing field so to speak amongst players.
Exactly
I've tried and tried to get into frontier. Early access I was exited but I just can't get into it...... It's missing something to keep you involved
Come back in a year and see if there is more!
That feeling when - even the Eve Online devs can't replicate their own game. It's crazy to me that eve is decades old and to this day has never had an actual clone. Not one single game has ever offered what Eve does. No Man's Sky *almost* feels like it has the potential - but there is basically no pvp or multiplayer in that game and it's far too simplified to compare with Eve. Eve is truly the most unique game ever created. Some day I believe there *will* be a spiritual successor to Eve - but Frontier, in my opinion, will not come close.
Dig out the 2007 build. Re-release it. Fixed it.
Eve Online and Eve Echoes players will collide in this game, it will be crazy at the beginning
Mmmm ya
Play both :D
Nice video! Eve Online was pretty much a blockchain game without the blockchain elements. It will take CCP to make the first most successful blockchain game. Honestly, this has brought me back and I will see you in the Frontier!
Agree
Skeptical. Eve is already a niche game and this seems like it would only appeal to an even narrower demographic.
same
From everything I'm reading, and from what I'm understanding, "create your own currency" might be similar to LP in current Eve, meaning that the success of your corp would likely directly affect the value of your currency that you've created and associated with your corp and your unique items, directly owned by you and attributed to you with Blockchain
Tbh, as a developer, this is looking sick, I'm hyped
Time to brush up on my crypto skills
I do think this will give a HUGE advantage to professional developers, either way, I'm freaking hyped!
Bro, same
So now I have to worry about getting rug-pulled or pump and dumped in a video game? I think everyone is vastly overestimating how many people are interested in having to do research on their ingame player-created currency to see if its legit or a scam. And then even if it is legit it could be rug pulled at any time. So picture the BoB espionage event, but now make it something that can be turned into real world money, and that might tank the value of your currency if it is sold off en masse after a large theft. God speed.
VRchat is probably the closest we have to ready player one right now.
hmmm fair
This is Eve Online with a fuel mechanic, all ships are Tier 3 variants and all your assets and economy is bound through NFT's and Blockchains.
It's literally a game no one asked for.
Disagree
@@lorumerthgaming It's true though. I'll bet this will be one of the most short lived games they have ever made. (and CCP do have a few miscalculations) Unless they are willing to put in of life support of course, when it's dying out.
@@TheParallellinialdying out to who? You?
@@Juvyss Let's just wait and see. Out of the 14 games CCP has had in development since 2003 only two are officially running and one of those is a mobile game, the other is Eve Online.
if you want ideas on what to code, i would start with fuel stations with shield modules that protect the ships fueling up and large truckstops that allow material storage and fueling up. the truckstops should have codes that allow 2 or more haulers run a relay style supply chain. like if i haul 1000 units of something 10 jumps to the truck stop i can put a password that allows my corp mate to take it out and deliver it to the next truckstop 10 jumps away and so on allowing for very long supply chains.
Sounds funnn
I've look extensively into working Crypto/NFT into games (I worked in a medium sized game development company.), the issue is that the value of the currency itself being tied to gameplay creates 2 opposing forces that can never work together. These forces are Game Balance and Currency Value. The only reason why the currency has value, is because of limited amounts of it in the ecosystem.
Adding any more currency will immediately cause the value of the currency already in circulation to drop. So how would these 2 forces work in tandem? On one hand, you've got hardcore players trying to earn as much real life money as possible, and thus going for meta builds (In this case, meta codes? lol), crushing casual players using time and experience.
So who props up the economy? The new players, those that, on joining, realize the limited amount of currency all goes to the top 10% of players. And what happens then? They leave, because they're not making real life money. The game will start hemorrhaging new players. Who will pay to buy the currency from the top 10% once there's no more new blood? Would the developers just start buying back Currency to keep it's value up?
NFT/Crypto currency aside, I'm also afraid of how the game will look once it's opened to modders. Look no further than Entropia Universe and/or Second Life to see how messed up the aesthetics of the game will become if left unpoliced.
All in all, I'm very skeptical about Eve Frontiers. I'm almost certain it will fail within a year of release.
Economics matter. There was a huge change in Eve when they made Plex, and it wasn't a good one. Then when Alpha/Omega comes along they're basically encouraging multi-boxing which other MMOs are trying to stamp out. God knows how many people actually play anymore, but I suspect it's not that many at all.
@@davidrobertson9174 My current napkin-math equation is to take whatever my corp's current member : character ratio is and divide the player count by that. Ours isn't a very big or extremely active corp, but at the time of writing this our corp's current ratio is 4.34 characters per player. So I would divide the current player count (34,313 at the time of comment) by 4, and that comes out to just under 8,600 players.
Good points but idk if it's so gloom and doom
@InvokeZero probably not a bad method! Given that some of those are not "paying" for their accounts (using isk for plex etc) it's remarkable Eve has lasted so long.
Then again, it's one server running largely 20 year old tech, so maybe not too surprising! China is a wildcard too with that server.
@@furrywaffle yeah games DOA (dead on arrival)
28:19 Been waiting for this feature for 20 years.
Exactly
You got a guild/org?
Check description !!
It is an amazing game! I loved the closed alpha. I see it as every lesson learned from Eve reimagined. A true feeling of dread and wonder .
At first i felt like starting over would be burdensome but i soon fell in love with discovering the new!
Huge
The ability to build a destroyer class mining ship or a command cruiser class mining foreman. Rather than risking a big slow orca you could split that into 2 command cruiser size ships to act as a mining foreman team one to buff and one to compress. And you can be much more nimble in risky space at the expense of having to use multiple ships.
Thank you so much Loru for fighting against all the bad faith people. I appreciate the positivity with EVE. It is so nice and refreshing. Please more
Happy to do it
i am jacked about it. it may not be perfect but the best part is that any progress is forward progress
Yessir!!
I WISH ITS GOOD. I WISH THE THE CRYPTO PART IS NOT SCAMMERS PARADISE. I only started playing eve online and have been enjoyiing the game thus far but its overwhelming and feels unfair how big alliance groups have anchored themselves in certain parts of space, I HOPE we get something like the systems reset every week or month so then peoople get a chance to get those spaces themselves. I WISH ITS GOOD and I pray they find a way to make this lucrative WITHOUT making it TOO MUCH PAY TO WIN.. SAY IT WITH ME: NO PLEX PLEASE!
If you want that space, find a group of players and go take it. You say its unfair they already had the space but wouldn't the "reset" you mentioned be unfair to players who have been playing for a long time. There is nothing stopping you from taking that space for yourself.
I hope it's good 🙏
@@Juvyss its that thiing that sounds so simple when you say but in practice will find it hard to do lol
@@yrga7195 its supposed to be hard. Eve isn't a single player game. i never said it was easy. I said theres nothing stopping you. But your right, i was wrong. There is something, the people you are trying to take it from.
@@Juvyss ur nt wrong, nothing is stopping me from "trying" . it sounds fun to take ono corps with your friends. its just VERY tedious, I can only imagine in my head the stuff I need to prep and the time I need to invest. In Frontier, not EVERY systems needs to be what I suggested wherein its a blackhole influenced systems that in some way resets the owner like every month or whatever interval. I just want others to have a chance. There is NO that the 100 people corp Im in right now will even get a sniiff of any system against Horde or Goons, they will defend that. not so related note - Horde has this "rent a system" niche (its smart ngl, business-wise)
There isEVE Online, EVE Frontier, EVE Vanguard, EVE Echoes, EVE Galaxy Conquest... What CCP want to prove? And prove to who? I think thats what makes it fall.
why are new games a bad thing lol
@ Because when you have 3 unfinished projects, development take forever. That means people will not stick long. Also its money sink.
@@lorumerthgamingPeople want FINISHED NEW GAMES. Not half baked in development crap.
EVE online 2 with 64 bit rather than 32 bit operating system would be a massive upgrade.
Just in logistics alone.
Having to train people to code on a 32 bit coded system to interface with modern 64 bit systems on code that they literaly can not work on in some parts (POS's) because the people who made it and know how to fix it are all dead or retired.
Would PROBOBLY be a good investment.
Then port over the players.
You now have room to do nice and new things with a massive pool of new coders alredy trained fresh from schools to hire into dev teams.
Development overhead can be reduced by 70 to 80%.
The twitch stream confirmed for me personally that CCP has just told Eve online nulsec that they can own and kill new eden... we got better things comming.
Doubt they will kill EVE Online
The problem is nobody understands wtf kinda game they're making. The first look is extremely vague.
game is in alpha, we arent supposed to know everything yet
@@lorumerthgaming Right, but they did a reveal anyway, and all it did was confuse the hell out of people
We all know and love current Eve. It seems sad to me that they can’t concentrate efforts on putting in really cool content for Eve online such as these features rather than making another game for MEGA nerds and coders, where the average joe like myself will have an extremely hard time competing against someone with even the slightest bit of code knowledge. I don’t want current Eve to die and I hope they both interact in some way so that the current eve doesn’t die.
Who says they aren't concentrating on EVE O as well?
In what way will the average joe be required to know how to code?
@@lorumerthgaming As a 21 year vet of EVE Online, EVE O has been on life-support for a long time. It's not a skeleton crew running it like other MMOs that are actually dying, but the bulk of the development numbers that worked on EVE online in its earlier days have been moved to other projects or laid off. EVE has stagnated. There are still a ton of people who love it, but it is definitely in a rough place.
I think they've tried to bundle too much into one thing. Blockchain-enabled modding could be good, but maybe experiment with it in a more controlled environment first?
Tying it up with a survival-esque game, and a more physicalised control scheme, means if any one of those doesn't land correctly, the whole project will flop. Unfortunately I'm reminded of Eve: Valkyrie, where they did some real engineering boundary-pushing, but the basics weren't covered, and the VR stuff wasn't the winner CCP expected it to be.
All fair points
soo, what is your thoughts on the casual weekend warrior (like myselfe) game play in this game? looks like an incredible game for coders and developer style players.
i have not really looked into this but just a thought that popped up.
great cover of the development, keep it up o7 !
God bless!
Short answer is: idk. Ha
It will depend a lot on the game itself. I'll know more when it's out!
@lorumerthgaming okay, then I know I have roughly the same information 😁, yea looks exiting either way!
The implications of this are massive to say the least.
The biggest imo
Can I finally walk on stations?
The game isn't open source. They provide an SDK. Totally different.
This looks great! I'm looking forward to it! 👍
Thanks for your positive preview, Loru.
Thank YOU friend
But is this an expansion of eve online? I am getting confused because it almost sounds like it is being presented as a new game?
this is a new game, eve frontier, in early alpha!
@@lorumerthgaming oh wow scary what this will do to EVE then. Seems so similar that it looks like they will kill EVE if this works. Unsure why they did not try to merge. People have dedicated their lives to build eve. Will be sad if it dies. May be slow at first but if EF takes off and works there is no way EVE won't die in the long run.
@@lorumerthgaming Hmm then in that case what worries me and a lot is that, being so similar to the eve genre, if this takes off and works EVE will eventually die. It will not be fast, in fact it will be slow but being a game to get into and has a long term investment I can't see it lasting more than 5 or so years after success for EF before we start seeing the beggining of it suffering. This is sad for me having played since 2005. I would love to be positive and believe they would maintain and push both but I don't see it and even if they did the player base is about long term investment and they will see EF as a better long term investment.
So potentially you will be able to play this game and enjoy it for couple of years and than sell everything you own convert to crypto and cash out :) . I am in.
i hope that is the case!
@muzgu1 look up entropia universe and you will get a good realistic take how this will
Occlusion matters.
Truly
This sounds similar to that game Entropia Universe but more indepth
hmmmm maybe
I feel weird here, maybe i am not alone, but I am going to ask...
Do you feel like this "Upgrades" from the classic EVE online cannot just simply justify a complete new game? For me it feels like this features are in a way included in EVE online, or plainly against the EVE online principle (I am referring to the part of the manual control on this point).
I don't see the justification for a completely new game anywhere... and the topic of ERC721 (A.K.A. NFT standard of the crypto currency Ethereum) is not something that I complete see as a positive thing... in my honest opinion, the possibility of adding player currencies is something that could render the whole game absurd. Why I am gonna use currencies driven by players when there is a currency driven by CCP in the game? what is the point? Is it chaos for the fun of the fun of chaos? I try to imagine a game where you can create your money and each of us does exactly that... we will see hundreds or thousands of currencies used by very little amount of people and then a few corps or alliances using their currencies between them. So at the end there will be a monopoly of the big ones and that is all? How are we gonna be able to compare the value of one currency towards the other?
That part only, transferring values between currencies is already a heavy headache in real life due to volatility. I don't know if it is gonna be fund to play a simulator for speculate with the volatility changes.... There are literality virtual account on crypto exchanges for that.... you don't need to play a game to do that... I don't know, please somebody tell me your thoughts about this. It feels really confusing for just a videogame to play excel spaceships at the end of the day....
Idk if this is an 'upgrade,' so far looks like a similar but adjacent experience
Internal....Nerd....pop metal energy DYNAMO engaged....good work CCP
Huge agree
Line of sight? This alone would completely transform the current Eve-Online as we know it. The ability to hide behind structures or rocks? If that was introduced to the current game it would drag in massive numbers. No doubt thousands of people will tell me that this is unworkable but there it is. I'm sorry but I don't need a new game, I just want Eve-Online to get better (as it continues to do so). I consider Eve Frontier a betrayal to the player-base by CCP that got them where they are.
I think those changes would likely mean major rewrites in-terms of code, and that this is why they opted for the new platform
That said, I also think alot of people like Eve the way it is, and this is most likely the better way to go, rather than uprooting the main platform and player base.
Would literally change everything
I have to agree with the mentions of possible scam in the sense of the involvement of blockchain. Involve it with AI, and we're setting ourselves up for failure due to lack of innovation. In truth its an awesome concept with the projects, but the human element is truly being ignored which leaves me to feel this is just another crypto scam but now on an "open market" and repeatable. Worse than Logan Paul, and that's a hard stander to beat. Perhaps I am wrong, and hope I am.
I hope so too friend 🙏
I don't know shit about the EVE / EVE Online worlds but I found you entertaining a hell - I sub'd and Liked the vid - let's see if i'm an convert - TTFN - TF
Welcome in fam
I played... I can't say... I want this game now!
👀👀👀
thats a double edge sword... if you cant see me.. i cannot see you..
Mmhmm
I loved f'ing stuff up with highly mobile instalock arties... having cover and rewarding good player input sounds great. I might return just to have a look.
Regards
Etton Veil
Huge yes
I really hope they (ccp) bring something really new and special with this game. Otherwise I can just play Elite Dangerous that already has 10y in development.
Im interested in a survival take on eve. And as ive said before, plex is essentially a crypto you cant exchange to get back real money, its a one one crypto. All premium currencies are just lesser versions of what block chain is essentially doing from what i see. So hey, uf i can get money out of my eve time, thats be pretty cool. We already have plex fluctuate with market prices and all the jazz.
Exactly
Well, it's about time someone actually succeeds in pushing out a product like this. Star Atlas flopped.
mmhmm
Should I stop playing eve then?
no at all
The alpha was amazing . Eve online but even better.
There it is
I can hide in dust clouds? (like in Homeworld). 💪🏻
@25:40 Bingo! You nailed it. Successful MMOs were successful because they were good games that attracted the _right crowds._
WOW was supported by social players. EVE-Online was supported by escapees (from reality). FPSes/MOBAs were supported by individualistic exhibitionists buying vanity skins to 'show off'. Crypto games inevitably attract hackers, rug-pullers and speculators.
Hmmm we will see
I really really hope they do real docking functions and proper real animations for picking up cargo like a tug or nothing pops out and picks up the cargo I want it to feel real
The issue with eve online is the fact suddenly the technology got weird asif eve ships stations and what not could just be put together from thin air when I always imagined it more like a building operation when I always thought if it as more of a tech limitation but then they started making it lore and I lost interest
Yo me too
Free skins, again? And we've to pay premium to beta test the game? lol. I think I follow Loru's advice and watch from a save distance.
If I remember some one Eve online earlier trailers correctly this universe sounds like the other side of the Eve gate....
th-cam.com/video/T84nrp08MWo/w-d-xo.html
Maybe this game is Present day in eve online to the origin cluster?
Would be interesting
eve online dangerous the remake of a 80s game
XD
Open source code looks amazing! This will be the new level of player run sandbox MMO's. I love the idea. This is the future of gaming! Imagination our only limits!! CCP R OG's
Huge agree, hopefully they deliver 🙏
@@lorumerthgaming I don't think people understand the expansion. Coding using chatGBT will be insane!! It has A DAY Z feel too. I don't think you understand the blockchain. Understanding what A token is Vs A coin and the fundamentals of Crypto are perfect.
Im a long time player of eve but im old and nothing about coding makes any sense to me. I want to try this but it sounds like if you cant code and program you cant really do much of anything. I mean I know there will be normal game play but if people can just design better ships and stations and things just sounds like it will be really unbalanced for those that just want to play and no knowledge of coding.
I don't think you need to code, but we will see
It will be an arena version of eve.. smaller game
So basically if ur not a programmer this game isn't for u?
idk about that
crude vs crud..
That E makes all the difference 😅
I’m honestly so confused about what this game is meant to be
Possible eve 2.0
Plz plz make an native linux client for this!
Yes pls
@lorumerthgaming I am playing eve today thanks to steam and Proton. But I would so prefer an native client. Linux is the future.
It’s really a shame, as someone who has now been an active eve player for 18 years, with 5 accounts.. I only see the same pattern, CCP making games that are eve online like, but in the end only break even or almost destroy the company financially there is a reason that dust514, walking in stations failed, because ccp was busy making a vampire mmo. I think then working on the new dust re boot could make them wayy more money than this garbage here will. I still don’t really know what this trailer is suppose to show me. Instead of this, they should be working on Eve online 2, which they could roll out by idk like 2025/2027 and have it made on non legacy code, with a plan to properly port the community over or have it be a fresh launch… idk. This seems like another flop.
We will see
I will say I could be wrong? I might even try it and I hope they prove me wrong and it’s a success….
@@ViperXSS2 It would take *significantly* longer than 2-3 years to rewrite EVE onto a new engine, even if all of the developers were already well-trained on it. But they're most likely not, which means they'll have to learn it, which takes time, and that'll slow everything down, which only makes it worse. You'd be lucky to see EVE 2 on a new engine before 2030, even if they started today with a system they already knew.
That being said, they would have to port the player base and all of their assets over to the new system. There is no other way to do it. Way back when Counterstrike updated to CS:Source, that fractured the community to a point neither ever really recovered to the same level as before the split. That was on a drop-in drop-out game with little to no investment. EVE has players who have been playing and investing into this game for up to 20 years. Thousands of dollars and several thousands of hours being wiped because of switching to a new engine would all but guarantee the game's, and CCP's total collapse.
I can tell you with *absolute certainty* that I would not switch to the new game if all of my assets were wiped in the process. I have ships built by friends who are likely not even alive anymore that hold immense sentimental value to me. There is no upgrade to this game that can convince me to forego the thousands of dollars and years of time invested into this game for another. There simply isn't.
The biggest mistake with Frontier is making it too exclusive. If they want it to be exclusive, then don’t put it under the same banner as EVE Online, which is a completely different genre.
What did CCP expect? That multiboxing pilots would suddenly switch to a first-person shooter? Sure, some might try it out of curiosity, but they’re not sticking around for long.
They need to make it easier to play, yes
play 3 days before launch doesnt mean youre winning eve chill lol ;)
its gonna be sweeeeeeeeeeeTAHHHHHHH!
I hope so
I'm fine with games just being games tbh.
Fair enough
Off the Grid popped
truth is a16z and others invested 40m into this game
if i were you i’d pay for Claude or GPT because this game is going to have AI Agents from day one
remember you can run a program and the model can see your screen
think of it as rp
your clone has a mindmate latticed layered ai core
hmmmm
For me combat in EVE has always been lacking and boring. It's 99% strategy, tactics and patience and less skill based. Compared to Elite Dangerous for example, I much prefer the combat simulation Elite provides. Why I never gotten into PvP in EVE Online, except for market PvP.
I hear ya there
I love the energy you bring to your videos. That said I hate dark games I cant see chit and writing code? Have they lost their minds. The hiding behind structures. I like that
Think of it like they're making modding a big piece of whole experience.
Haha thank you :)
Some shots seem very Red. I find that I avoid Minmatar space due to the odd Red space background
The reddest
Not interested
and that is ok!
Nice
Nice
9:13...... You know you can use the arrow keys on your keyboard to manualy fly your ship in EVE Online, right?
Yes. And it is such a wonderful experience. Especially with one second ticks.
@jaroslavoswald7566 Get gud scrub!
We did not need to know you have "timming issues".😅
I hear what your saying though.
It could be better.
That said, using the arrow keys in places tjat are crouded to not bump into things and keep your velocity up is critical in some fights.
I DO NOW WHAT THE HECK!?
@@lorumerthgaming It's a feature only used by weirdoes and high level players in cluttered environments.
Like battles with lots of wrecks.
Orbit at a set distance is fine when you have no colidables.
But in an asteroid field or battle with lots of ships in mele range.
You run into something and lose velocity, you are dead.
Orbit and place camera aiming ahead of your ship to keep a lookout for colidables and it does not effect your combat preformance at all if you are using the overlay systems, but gives you a look at OH SH!T A WRECK IS IN MY PATH!!!! UP, DOWN, LEFT OR RIGHT ON AROW KEYS FOR A FEW SECONDS!!!!
Dodged the thing, reset orbit and camera.
Continue.
0 loss on inertia.
There is also changing uour orbit path manualy to avoid flying in almost straight lines into or away from your enemys alies.
And by wreck I mean you in a few moments after you hit the colidable in battle.😅
so this game is just for the rich and people who can code and have time for learning that... sounds soo fun.....
You came to two conclusions, and they're both wrong. 😄
Not really... Like EVE where you can play the game without having to mine and build everything on your own from scratch, you can just use what others have created and play the game.
@@nekonari22I agree but the ending of your sentense should be "...and pay for it".
It depends on how fair the prices will be and how transparent the stats and benefits are per $
Disagree
your video title is misleading. it's not gameplay ...
Def is though
@Elon Musk
Tag the Musk™️
I’m still trying to wrap my head on why do we need a game like this when EVE Online already exists just fine? All this seems to be is a different take on what already is, comes across as fixing what isn’t broken.
Nothing wrong with making new games
After 4 days of playing i can say this... Its not a game, its a job XD
And BTC is in a monthly bull. And meme coin are a thing again... Madness will happen when we will go live on mainnet.
Def will be madness
I do not understand all the hate. Maybe will be good, maybe will be bad. Who the fuck knows.
Agree
All games for real world player profit are dead. It is on that basis alone that this game will fail.
The fact that a ship in Eve will be the same 5 years from now as it is today is WHY it can never be a real economy...... holy shit... no... Ready Player One is fiction.
Disagree
Oh god, Evetopia 2.0 here we go. Can't even deliver a solid game anymore these days. Always involving some type of Blockchain Crypto, NFT, AI scam.
maybe listen to some discussions in the vid ;)
You could not break this concept down to something shorter than a feature length film?
here you go: game looks neat but idk about it, so we'll see 💁
everyone thinks they are going to create the Kuwaiti Dinar but they will end up with the Iranian Rial.
Idk what that is haha
@lorumerthgaming the dinar is the most valuable currency and the rial is the least valuable.
this project wont last a year
Loru Gaming my god can you just shut up and just let it play some you do not needd to stop it every 5 sec. and say something about the video it would be great if you had let it plce for like 5 to maby 10min then stop the video and talk about it some of us would like to see more then 5 secs at one time. yes i do know you need to stop the video and talk about it for copy sec of it by god thoe do you like i have said every 5 secs or so. i am only at the 5 min mark and all ready to stop watching it no matter how much i like to watch the video. if i did watch this video for the whole 48 minutes of it i would go insane just from listening from you talking way to much. i get it you love eve.
Why are you here if you just want to watch the trailer 😆
How are they going to keep people from clowning the entire game up like every other "Second Life" style "code your own ingame stuff" dumpster fire? Sounds great on paper but in practice this is an awful idea. Imagine if ALL Skyrim mods were mandatory and added to the game in real time with no way to opt out. In other words, literal blinking green and pink penis ships everywhere. Also blockchain... FML.
We will see
Can you imagine using AI, like chatGPT to hard code your own stuff, like copy and paste, can you imagine that? These guys think in 100 years in the future, no, maybe 1000 years.
Exactly
Outdated UI isn't going to bring in new players. People want to fly their ships. Not point and click them.
This is an alpha game, that is the alpha UI
@@lorumerthgaming It's Eve's UI. Time for an upgrade.
EVE Online is a social game so the n+1 is very important. Local Chat is also very useful and good but if you don't like it then fly in worm holes. What CCP need to do is make the game free and cross platform. They can get paid by taking a very small commission per trade, no bots, no 3rd party apps so people use the game. EVE has always played like an unfinished game so they need to fix the mechanics, exploits and bugs. CCP need to be honest with themselves and learn from their mistakes. Finally, users are not the best source of ideas, game developers are. It's like letting kids set the curriculum at a school.
CrazinessOfTheInternet is one of the best people to explain what is needed. EVE Online is dead for a reason. At the end of the day, Frontier sounds more like getting a job rather than offering fun.
EO is no where NEAR 'DEAD' lol
@lorumerthgaming ccp replaced those players that left the game with bots.
I just want a game. Dont want another job.
Fair
im not paying real world money for fuel in a video game and my car irl lol
Ok
Open source codeing for expansion of the game will inherently lead to massive exploits and unfair gameplay.
Not necessarily
I appreciate this is a frontier vid but you mentioned Vanguard. Its not something new. We saw it in Dust 514. I was heartbroken that game didn't work. I PRAY CCP makes some good moves with both of these games
Vanguard pretty good too
@lorumerthgaming I played the first version and it was quite good. I missed the Dec opening but I hope we get something more in Jan/ Feb
So being nft-garbage by default makes all people being wrong about game? Thats rofl. We already have usual eve, noone asked for nft-survival-idiotic eve "2.0"
Hope you are ok
@@lorumerthgaming i am, thank you for concern. Better for you see medics asap with that opinion of nft m8
Scamware
if its pay to play, more than just a sub, its dead on arrival. Pay for gas bahaha. The only game that exists thats been able to pull something like that off is Entropia Universe, ammo costs $ but then u can withdraw for real $ to your bank ( of course 99% of players lose)
Game is not DOA lol
@lorumerthgaming I will bet you 101 isk, if the game costs $ to play it will die almost instantly. Make that 201isk!
I don't mean just a sub, but paying for "gas" or whatever