Comprehensible Input Language Update
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About me:
I tried for about 10 years on and off to learn Chinese. Like most people who try to learn a language I got nowhere. I watched all the TH-cam videos of polyglots and it felt like they had something I didn't. Eventually the penny dropped and I realised anyone really can learn a new language if they have the right approach. My goal is to help others achieve their aim of learning a foreign language
Reading has also been a game changer for me. It's a great way to gain more vocabulary as a page has a lot more words than a scene in a movie or TV show. Also the words naturally repeat throughout the book so I don't use flashcards or anki.
Yep. This 👆. When I get back to Chinese I will do reading instead of flashcards because I can guarantee that by sticking to readers of each HSK level I will see the words anyway. Each level is relatively small so I’m fairly confident it will work. Plus… no one enjoys flashcards, especially not me. Getting good material varies on the language is the issue though
As far as expectations for the channel go: don't sweat it too much. Most people who follow channels somewhat regularly just want some mix of information and entertainment, with professionalism. I think you deliver on that just fine. Keep at it.
Cheers Bob! I’m just grateful people are watching 😅
Yeah, I like the professionalism too, together with the honesty in beginning this input-journey. I learnt Spanish & Russian in the traditional methods, and am interested in this input-based method, the sheer amount of time it takes, and how to find so much materials. Watching your journey, how it is incorporated into listening habits, some attentive video habits/learning etc, with an honest and professional style is inspirational. However, I find the author you mentioned to waffle too much, so other comp' input and advice is precious. You're doing great Matt.
@@phillippeacock7255am learning russian right now, the traditional way but thinking about using the input method.
I really appreciate how honest these videos feel. I tracked ~300 hours of input before I started practicing output with a tutor and I struggled a lot more than I expected to. It's been a bit of a hit to the motivation! Hearing you say you're thinking of going to 1,000 hours input before you focus on output makes me realise there's so much more input I can expose myself to, maybe I'm not a "lost cause“!
Time to go book shopping - thanks for the motivation, and good luck yourself :)
Hey LyraLea! If it’s hit your motivation maybe try crosstalk for a while? No pressure to speak the TL and easier on the brain! Thank you, as ever, for watching!
Ill also add, a baby doesn't speak for a year and in that time has over 3000 hours of input. So not saying much after 300 hours is to be expected.
in brief:
1. **Introduction and Channel Update**: Matt starts by mentioning that he will discuss language learning and provides a brief update about his channel. He mentions using a laptop to check some notes during the video.
2. **Spanish Learning Journey**:
- Matt has spent over 700 hours learning Spanish, primarily through listening and some watching. He mentions using the "Dreaming Spanish" platform.
- He emphasizes the power of input in language learning. Despite not actively speaking, he can understand a lot.
- He recently started listening to the book "Atomic Habits" in Spanish and can mostly understand it.
- He has watched over 3,000 videos in Spanish and can now understand native-level content.
- Matt mentions that around the 700-hour mark, things started making more sense to him in the language.
- He contemplates waiting until he reaches 1,000 hours of input before he starts speaking in Spanish.
3. **Change in Language Learning Strategy**:
- Previously, his daily goal was two hours of listening. Now, he aims for half an hour of reading every day, using graded readers.
- He emphasizes the importance of input in language learning and mentions that he hasn't focused much on grammar.
4. **Chinese Learning Journey**:
- Matt started with Chinese before moving to Spanish. He feels his Chinese proficiency has declined since he last used it.
- He was at the HSK 5 level (considered intermediate) but believes he might now be at the HSK 3 level (high beginner).
- When he returns to learning Chinese, he plans to focus on comprehensible input and reading at the HSK 3 level.
5. **Channel Update**:
- Matt enjoys making videos and tries to balance providing value to viewers with exploring his creativity.
- He encourages viewers to suggest video ideas and share their language learning journeys.
6. **Conclusion**: Matt concludes by mentioning he needs to walk his dog and will continue to get more language input.
Holy crap... EVERY video in European Spanish! That's crazy!
I want to do that for Mexican Spanish now haha.
My tip of "reading along with the audiobook" is probably my best (as in, of the ones I myself sort of "came up with") because it forces you to read as though you were reading English.
Hahaha! Feel like I know A LOT about Pablo! That's interesting. I think I may do some more deliberate study at some point. I know what you mean about reading though. The change of pace allows you to notice so much more of the language. Hope the Spanish is going well mate!
You deserve way more subscribers, great content, keep on going please
As of today I'm at approximately 625 hours of Spanish input. I say approximately because I was some way in to my Spanish learning before I began counting hours and so had to go back and roughly estimate how many I'd already done. Not all of this has been through Dreaming Spanish either as I also watch a lot of Spanish news (RTVE), TH-cam videos (for natives) and listen to podcasts etc too.
I'd say I'm right on track with the Dreaming Spanish roadmap and levels. I have spoken. In fact, I have made friends via a language exchange website with a few Spanish people and back in March I went to Spain and spent four days with one of them (I was probably at around 500hrs at this point). It turned out she didn't want to speak any English so we spent 12+ hours a day together communicating only in Spanish. Of course I made some mistakes but wow, it was a game changer for me. I realised in that moment that all of the input I had been receiving had done its job; I could understand a native speaker speaking to me directly at a normal pace. When she spoke with other natives we encountered the results were more hit and miss, sometimes I understand most of the conversation, other times less so - but this just means I need to continue receiving more input.
I have to say the most amazing part was the sensation I felt in my brain upon activating in such a time concentrated way all of the language my brain had been receiving to that point. By this I mean having an occasional hourly Skype session is all well and good but when I was suddenly placed into a situation where Spanish was being used all day, every day I became acutely aware that there was a type of awakening going on in my head. At the end of the first full day together (an evening and the subsequent full day together) I was thinking only in Spanish. It felt like English had been evicted from my head and Spanish had taken over. It was a strange, magical feeling.
Upon returning home and back to an English centric life, this feeling subsided, even as I continue to receive input. But it did fill me with hope that when I am able to return to Spain for a prolonged period (I'm formulating plans to be able to spend a few months there at some point next year) and with over 1,000 hours under my belt by that point, this activation period will happen once again and perhaps to a greater and more lasting degree given I plan to spend more time there.
The bottom line is this: Comprehensible input works. You don't need grammar lessons, lists of vocabulary, flashcards, textbooks etc. You don't need any of that. You just need lots and lots of CI. For me personally I then believe that an intensve period of speaking such as the one I described above is required to really activate the language. When you choose to do that is your call. Regarding accent, nobody I spoke to has had any problems whatsoever understanding me. Do I sound like a native? No. Will you? Probably not. Should we care? No. I have no doubt whatsoever that if I could spend just a month or two in Spain at this point I would be speaking at a level that would be getting into the ballpark of "fluent".
Wishing you all great progress on your acquisition journeys.
Thanks for such an in-depth response Tom! That's really interesting. I'm about to start speaking soon and I think it will massively increase the rate at which I think I'm progressing. I think it's easy to overthink every element of language learning and try to optimise each second but ultimately if you're enjoying it then with enough input progress will come. Good luck on your journey!
@@matt_brooks-green You're welcome Matt! May I ask how to plan to begin speaking? By that I mean will it be online or do you have the opportunity to speak face to face with natives? My recommendation would be to speak as much as possible once you begin speaking but not to "force" anything. I look forward to seeing your progress!
Super motivated to see your hours rack up! Anxiously waiting for that upcoming daily routine video because I’m prepared to go all-in on listening to Dreaming Spanish like you’ve been doing.
Well done on both languages. It’s one thing to say how many hours a person has logged but to see it-IN the platform-just proves you’re working it. Glad Lamont sent me!
Hi Jeffery! Day in the life is filmed will be out in two weeks hopefully. If you are starting Spanish Dreaming Spanish is a no brainer. If you have cash and like structure Spanish Uncovered is where I started but it is not necessary if you don't like that sort of thing. Glad you're enjoying the videos!
Wow, such a well done, professional job! Just subscribed - you deserve way more. Cheers and buena suerte con tu español!
Thank you 🙏
I’m a fellow Dreaming Spanish lover! I’m 964 hours into the journey. But since I’m not a native English speaker, I’m a bit behind Pablo’s roadmap. But that’s totally cool with me.
And because I see how powerful Comprehensible Input is, I’ve started making simple videos in Mandarin following Dreaming Spanish’s style. My goal is to make “super beginner” and “beginner” videos to get people started with Chinese. And then they can venture out to videos in higher levels available out there.
Amazing. Thanks for helping out is Chinese learners. It is very much appreciated. Good luck with the Spanish!
That's so cool! I really hope it goes well! Btw, is dreaming in spanish not on Android phones. I can't find it.
@@alb91878 it’s not an app. It’s just a website and TH-cam channel. Google “DreamingSpanish method”
@@SimplyChinese Thank you for getting back to me!I really do appreciate it!I was wondering what I couldn't find it and had a small feeling that that might be the case.Thank you again. !
I wish someone could do that with Cantonese. It's primarily a spoken language and doesn't have that good of a base of learning materials, but has many native speakers - I think it'd really help learners.
I really enjoy your videos. As Bob Bobbson said below -"...You deliver..." You are honest about language acquisition and seeing someone else go through many of the same struggles helps continue to take action.
Keep the videos coming.
Thanks man, that’s so kind. I genuinely really appreciate it
Congrats of your progress! ¡Enhorabuena! 🙂
Thank you for watching 🙏
Interesting that you've mentioned about not needing to sound every single word now whilst reading in Spanish. I am currently experiencing something similar to you with my Japanese. I've been binging Japanese comprehensible input TH-cam videos recently and it has really made a big difference in my reading. Keep it up with your Spanish mate. Well done! 😊
Awesome. Yeah, I found it again recently with a new book. Input is useful… who knew 🤣
Been listening to Dreaming Spanish since mid Jan at 218 hours now but have also been listening to many podcasts during my day, Easy Spanish, How to Spanish, Also watching, Spanish con Juan etc. (Very funny man).
Feel 50 hours or more a month, (a year of input) will get me to the point where i want to be before i start talking.
Also reading easy stuff which i think makes all the difference to learning new words, especially when watching videos with the subtitles on.
Thanks for sharing your journey.
Cheers.
Hi Gary, that sounds about right. I have done a year of it and will start speaking soon. I already feel my brain forming short sentences about things as I go about my day. I found reading to be a real help - I'm using ebooks for native speakers at the minute and making use of the translate feature. Picking up a lot more vocabulary that way, though not necessarily natural speech. Good luck!
How long did it take for u to understand normal videos without subtitles?
Game changing advice. Thanks
Also I have been learning Spanish for over a year at home by myself by online platforms of course. Yo quiero estudiar español pero no tengo mucho tiempo. 10 o 15 minutos para español todos los dias. Yo conoce es un short time to learn a language. No matter what happens I will learn it
Good luck!
Good job Matt, carry on!
Thanks John!
Thanks for mentioning you listened to Atomic Habits in Spanish. Despite my relatively advanced level of Italian I hadn’t really thought to tackle a non-fiction book, assuming it’d be too complex. You however inspired me to download the audio book of Atomic Habits in Italian and found that it’s really straightforward, clear and comprehensible, so that’s providing me with hours of great input. Would love to know if you have any other recommendations of books you’ve read/listened to in foreign languages (aside from the graded readers) that may have Italian translations. Thanks!
Amazing. How cool. Glad I could help!
as a Spanish learner, I am watching Dreaming Spanish as suggested, as of Mandarin Chinese... 加油加油 ⛽⛽ for you! :)
I really like your videos and style. I enjoy the variety of shots that you use so it's not just a 10 minute video of someone talking to the camera. Your style is much more engaging to watch than a lot of other language TH-camrs.
One question about comprehensible input: Do you approach comprehensible input differently for Spanish (a language with many cognates of English words) and for Chinese (a language with very few cognates)? I myself have been listening to many podcasts in French and it has really been a game-changer for my comprehension. I'm able to recognize a lot of words because they sound similar to English. For a non-European language, I don't think I would be able to lean so heavily on audio input alone. I would be curious to see how your routine might differ, especially as I am considering starting to learn Chinese. Great Channel!
Thanks Nick. I agree. Especially with the cognates in Spanish, it makes audio so much easier. WIth Chinese I would use audio material for the stuff I have already read so that I have a sense of the story. Though it's far from perfect there is a real benefit in following the HSK levels just because it's so easy to find graded material. For Chinese don't put off learning the characters is my biggest advice because unlocking reading changed a lot for me. Will do a very long video about my thoughts on this in the future but I was surprised how poor graded readers are for Spanish compared for Chinese where there are a lot and many of them are genuinely very very good rather than simply stories I read just because they are in my TL.
Thank you for sharing. I was wondering if you watch with subtitles? Also, do you sequence listening / watching simpler matetials first and later more advanced content?
I’ve found knowing a bit of grammar a bit helpful. I use Pimsleur and they don’t really explain the declension changes in German, or seperable verbs. If I wasn’t aware of them I would’ve been super frustrated. But I guess Pimsleur is different to what youre talking about
Your style is Maximum Mattness 😎 for which we are all grateful. 😊
My suggestion (and forgive me if you have already done something similar... I'm still getting to a few vids 😅) is perhaps you could discuss anything different you needed to take into account when learning Spanish and Chinese. Like obviously Chinese has a different script, is tonal and had has significantly fewer cognates, but was there anything you didn't expect that was different or the same?
Also what is the difference between say Chinese and Spanish writing, even at a beginner level. Did the culture come through more than you expected?
Well that's my 2¢ worth lol. Keep at it mate! You're doing great. 🎉 Best Regards from Perth, Western Australia!
Thanks Cyndi! Yeah, I think I might do something like that after I’m speaking in Spanish so I’m abole to talk about the differences with a bit more experience! Thank you! 🙏
Congrats on your journey.
Thank you, really appreciate you watching 🙏
New sub here, I don't know if you've mentioned this before but I was wondering how long it took you to reach 700 hours? Because that's an impressive feat and so encouraging as well to hear about how you're beginning to gain an intuition for the language! great video:)
Hey Jianing! Welcome! Just under a year when I filmed this. I'm over 800 hours now and still not speaking. I think we all have to do what feels right in language learning and the whole delayed speaking approach feels great to me!
Hey thanks for making this video, it really helps at putting things in perspective. How is your Spanish journey going so far?
Spanish is my native language and I learned English through many years just by input as well as what I was taught at school but now I’m learning Japanese and it’s really scary since I’m making a conscious effort to learn it, starting from the basics and most of the time I forgot that input is what got me where I’m now on my English
Spanish is going well, thanks man. Lots of input and trust the process. I’ve had a ton of people comment on the channel that they learned English through watching content online. The process is the same for the new language - though for languages like Japanese learning kanji will be useful so that you can consume written content too
I can understand almost everything I hear and read in German around the C1 level, but my spoken German is only around the A2 level.
Recently I engaged a native German speaker to converse with. It is really really hard learning to speak German properly, even after months of conversing twice a week.
I'd say, the only way to speak a language is to practice speaking it.
Could you recommend a similar platform to Dreaming Spanish but for English?
Your vid style is a good way to make talking at a camera more interesting. I scroll through my subs hoping to see one of your videos released. One thing on language learning, I am learning Japanese, just bought some shokz (thanks for your reco), and getting input. But I wonder if it's easier to pick up Spanish and get the gist of the messaging because of the similarities with English. Do you think you could do the same listening only type input with Chinese and still get the level of comprehension that you have with Spanish. I find with Japanese that it's hard to find things that I can listen to only without other context (reading along, video, or previous watching of the content)
Hey bud, thanks for your kind words. I’m still figuring this stuff out so that really means a lot. Yeah, I think the cognates in Spanish probably massively helps. In Mandarin I would probably focus on a lot of listening largely to things I have read or have started reading. The HSK system in Chinese means it’s easy to get content at a pretty accurate level though so listening is very useful even without reading. Only listening though would probably take longer than combining it with reading and other methods like crosstalk.
@@matt_brooks-green thanks for replying. One vid idea would be around your Olly Richards experience. My first vid of yours was on the story learning review. I am through the beginner Japanese course now and sort of wondering if I should drop the $ for the other levels, or find some less expensive graded readers. Your experience on that would be great to hear because you are so genuine
@@matlynch83 TBH I haven't tried any of the other courses so can't say how good they are. Something I would say though is that it takes a huge amount of material to make progress so a single course usually wont be sufficient. You have to look at your finances and see if it's worth it. It might make a good addition alongside other material and I liked how Spanish Uncovered made me aware of elements of Spanish before I then went off to get a lot of input. If I did another course now it would be of much greater benefit than if I had done it straight after Spanish Uncovered. There is a 7 day refund I think so you can always check it out and see whether it meets your expectations
How do you get vocabulary using comprehensible input?
Coming back to see this one again! Would you mind mentioning where most of your listening is coming from in terms of the level in Dreaming Spanish?
You’d mentioned you’ve re-watched some. Have you listened through all the videos by now and re-listen to only advanced? Only intermediate? Mix of both? Etc!
Asking because I recently jumped from beginner to intermediate and I’m feeling the drop in comprehension. Trying to just push on but would be remiss if I didn’t ask what you’ve been doing since you’ve got it figured out.
Cheers! Looking forward to another new videos!
Hey Jeffrey - got more videos on the way. For me I would listen to the advanced videos now. I’ve run out of videos from Spain though 😢. It’s worth saying that comprehension will vary between speakers and accents. I can comfortably listen to a lot of speakers from Spain for advanced videos but find my comprehension lower if the speaker is from Colombia for example. Also my comprehension will also vary if I’m tired or just some days are like that. It’s not a linear process at all. Find a speaker you enjoy and listen and watch a lot then you’ll comprehend their more advance stuff easier once you pick up on their accent, intonation and choice of words
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Appreciate you, Matt! Remember us when your channel keeps getting bigger. Feels nice to see a response from such a legend!
@@jeffreybarker357 😂 I’ve got no idea what I’m doing! Just trying to save some people some of the pain I went through!
As a fellow Krashen fan, and one who loves to delve into the science of 'how' we learn a language, your every video sings to me.
I started my 'second language' journey 2 and half years ago (Italian) and fell upon the 'comprehensible input' method on youtube some 3 months into my journey. What a game changer. Honestly, being the first time I had learnt a language (aside from my actual native language) it was a bit of a leap of faith to push against the traditional methods that are everywhere. Do a class! Study grammar tables! Make flash cards! And though I'm not anti-those-methods (because if you enjoy it then there's always value) what really made me make leaps and bounds was when I committed to an input based approach.
I, like you, love tracking data. So I purchased myself a diary and a bunch of highlighters (because are you actually serious unless you buy a tonne of stationary?!) and started recording my daily intake of listening and reading
I actually picked up a grammar book again the other day (just for fun-sies!) and read through it. And let me tell you, I devoured it. I didn't do any exercises or write anything down, just read the principles. Because I've had 1000's of hours of input now, everything clicked and it was (for me) a super interesting read. I might make a point of doing it once a year. It makes sense when you think about it too; kids don't look at grammar until they're around 5-7 years of age, and at this point they are completely fluent in the language.
I think reading for pleasure was the biggest turning point for me. I absorbed grammar naturally, was exposed to a huge volumes of new words and phrases within context, and arriving at a point where you forget you're reading in another language because you're enjoying yourself so much, is just a wonderful feeling.
Thank you Matt for your wonderful videos and for helping to educate and contribute to the language learning community!
Hi Julia! Thanks for such a thoughtful comment. Just trying to do my bit! Yeah it’s a no brainer to use this approach in my opinion. It definitely works and it’s enjoyable and more painless than other methods. It’s interesting you mention grammar as my tutor and I spoke about it in passing the other week and for the first time I had an urge to read some stuff on it. I haven’t yet but it might be useful in the future to monitor output as and when I get there. And yes, reading for pleasure is absolutely the one! Thanks for your kind words 😊
I really like your point about grammar only making sense after you've done a ton of inputting. Its consistent I think with Justin Sung's point about learning in a non-linear way. I think that teaching grammar and vocabulary first, as much courses do, is exactly the wrong way around.
My favorite analogy is that CI is the fuel and explicit knowledge can maybe be a turbocharger.
I'm trying to demonstrate 100% CI on my channel through a tiny conlang called Toki Pona. I did a video series #opetp a lot like Dreaming Spanish, it's only 10 hours of CI but it's enough to experience it.
I'm interviewing people who watch them all, and they're all conversational, but I'm guessing the magic number for naturally emerging output is actually more like 50 hours, so I'm hoping to do a sequel.
But still, I feel it's a nice little demo for anyone who still feels that this whole subconscious acquisition idea is a bit "woo" 😂
Thanks for sharing. I haven't done much explicit study with my Spanish and everything I think I will I get distracted by reading or watching something I would find more interesting. Marvin Brown said speech emerges at about 700 hours which is about when I started to get the itch to speak. CI is definitely where the party is at though!
Commenting this before you get 1M subscribers ♥️
Hahaha... Will wait for the phone call from Mr Beast any second now 🤣
@@matt_brooks-green don't forget to ask yt for the gold play button in advance 😂😂
I often watch videos in advanced mathematics for entertainment.
I usually understand even some really quite complicated and involved solutions, but if I never attempted some of these problems on my own, then I'd never claim I had truely mastered this stuff.
So it is with language learning with me. If I can't speak it, then sure it's nice to understand the language, but I wouldn't be communicating with it and then what would be the point of learning the language?
I think it's a lot more efficient to do a little bit of Chinese and Spanish every day then to do only one of them for months
Thanks for the honest update. Do you know the origin of the '1000 hours' thing? I noticed it on Dreaming Spanish, but Matt vs. Japan also recommends 1000 hours of listening after doing chorusing/shadowing exercises for Japanese. On that subject, I'd like to hear if you've any thoughts on doing specific outputting exercises before 'proper' outputting. I'm doing a lot of chorusing now on Japanese and I find it very useful. I'm dabbling in Korean now (just playing with Duolingo and exploring different channels/sources) and I think I'll use that along with video inputting as my main approach to see if it works.
Check out the book by J. Marvin Brown called “From the Outside In” where he describes an empirical formula he created to describe his student’s progress (ALGIE). This is where the number is derived from.
MJ Brown’s ALG Thai course in Thailand directly influenced the creation of Dreaming Spanish.
hi, i'd say go and use the free version of LingQ instead of Duolingo, you get short stories with audio and text and you can click on all of the words to see translations (for webb version only, mobil is not good unless you pay). I don't use any of their flash cards etc. Just reading and listning to stuff over and over untill it sticks. LingQ has gotten me so much further in Korean that i often can guess the meaning of new words it's really fun.
IDK about the 1000 hours rule, but i'd say that it probabgly is dependent on how close to your own language your target language is.
What Reggie said (thanks Reggie). I don’t know if Matt vs Japan talks about ALG so not sure where he got it from. I wont TBH. It doesn’t sound that enjoyable and after 1000 hours I hope I have a good sense of the language. I am already reading which means subvocalising so that could have an effect on my accent but I can live with that. Good luck with the Korean!
@@reggietkatter Thank you for that - I'll see if the books availaible, sounds interesting.
Any recommendations on Mandarin comprehensible input channels? Maybe Top 5 Mandarin CI TH-cam channels.
There are quite a few now, though I'm not using them at the minute: Acquire Mandarin, Comprehensible Chinese, Blabla Chinese, Comprehensible Mandarin
Do you talk to yourself? I find it an excellent way to find expressions and vocabulary that are missing. I used to speak French quite a bit 30 years ago, but poorly. For me the main issue today is vocabulary and turns of phrase. I am finding that there are many ways to use words I know but with changes of meaning, and I need to understand these meanings. Listening is good, but it is passive. I feel that we also need active practice. Otherwise our active language skills exist only for our native language. And a language has a dynamic flow, a music, an intonation and stress. Speaking is required to acquire those aspects. And of course getting the vowels and consonants requires practice.
Hey Leif 👋. I don’t yet. I did in Chinese when I was first learning. I’m holding off output in Spanish at the minute. What I would say is that without enough input we don’t have an intrinsic sense of the intonation so input first, speaking second in my book. Ultimately we should do what we enjoy as ever as any practice is better than none!
@@matt_brooks-green I can’t argue with the listening first, speaking second approach. After all, I didn’t start speaking until I was five. 😂, Seriously, I do agree with you, but I would encourage some speaking, just an opinion of course. I find it very hard to switch to French from cold, without a few minutes listening, but that’s another issue.
For some reason the style at the beginning of this video reminded me a little bit like a Casey Neistat vlog.
Love your videos and insights btw!
Well I guess that’s a compliment… the English Casey Neistat 🤣. Thanks - glad you like the vids
Do you or the people on this thread know of a channel or service similar to Dreaming Spanish BUT for German?
I don't sadly, hopefully someone in the language community will have an answer for you
Natürlich German
It doesn't have a ton of content yet bc its fairly new, but the quality is great
If I were you I’d do 50% listening and 50% reading. You can easily lose your internal voice with reading alone and I think that affects confidence with speaking in a myriad of ways (even if speaking seems far off)
Thanks Janelle. Tbh I'm always going to have the majority of my day listening as it's so easy to do but increasingly I'm reading for nearly an hour a day which is definitely helping
You mention Castilian Spanish, but people forget that Andalucia and the Canary Islands are what make up the type of Spanish you'll hear in Latin America. The accents of those regions and the fact they don't use the vosotros/as form of central Spain maybe some do, but definitely not as much like central Spain.
Thanks Orlando. My tutor is actually from Tenerife so I am now very comfortable with the accent, though it threw me off initially!
I'd say that HSK5 is kinda low.... y'know they are very charitable with their HSK system and might describe HSK5 as high-intermediate or advanced.
Just googled it and see a site comparing it to C1... so "advanced"?
If HSK5 is equivalent to C1 then I really don't understand the CEFR.
imho, it's more like a low-intermediate. I could pass HSK6 if I took it and I find HSK5 to be pretty easy, but I now know enough Chinese to see how much I'm missing.
I think it's what they call the "Dunning-Kruger effect"
Yeah, it is. Tbh HSK 5 is probably a good B1 and HSK 6 B2. I know know much about the new levels yet though
with 700 hours of active studying, you would already be fluent
Possibly. But with a full time job and adult commitments I don’t have hours to sit down every day. Even an hour a day of active study would be… 700 days. I don’t judge people who have time to do that though ✌️
What do you mean by 'active studying' ?
@@pauld3327 Sitting down and actively trying to learn the language be it intensive reading or grammar study. Large amounts of easier input makes the process effortless and enjoyable for me. It also means I can do more of it. between other commitments. I listen to podcasts or watch TH-cam with a coffee and it seems to work for me
No you wouldn't, research regarding second language acquisition shows that it is the best way to learn any language as that is how we all learned our native tongue. Most people who actively study grammar and vocabulary don't end up speaking it fluently. Traditional methods in school to this day are still a failure when it comes to producing fluency in students.